Testing DIY Paint Can Stove In Hot Tent
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It this episode of Signal Outdoors Shop Talk we'll setup the do it yourself paint can stove in the hot tent and see how it does.
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for the bottom i used a large dollar store cookie sheet
Thanks again brother you're awesome God bless you
If you had four bolts sticking out the top, similar to the legs but shorter, you could lay sticks on the stove to dry etc.
Along the stove either side of the flue.
Great point!
Pine cones burn well also!
Cool! I'll try that sometime. Thanks for watching. 🤙
You can use that galvanized stove! Do your burn-off outside for the first few times & let the air outside get it! Seen many stoves done that way! Trust me it'd work! Finish it up!
For the Draft Control, shorten the lower part of the door and install under the chicken wire line a slight, or may even better for your stove, do it on the back of the stove.
Also what you can do, is rearrange the top shield so that it is completely in the back and close the cap on the right side.
I have watched many videos with galvanized stoves and they got hot enough to burn off the coating very quickly in the process so you can use your galvanized stove and you will not have any issue with it after your initial burn. The reason that your stove Burns hotter and puts off more heat inside the tent was because when you close the door almost all the way it's still pulls in a little oxygen from around the door but that heat is not being drawn out the stack as fast as it was when you had the door open. With the door completely open it draws air rapidly through the paint can and out the stack thus taking most of the heat with it.
Thanks Eddie, that makes a lot of sense about why it worked so much better with the door shut. I've decided to move forward with that bigger stove and should have the test video up in couple weeks. Thanks for checking out the channel. 🤙
@@SignalOutdoors enjoyed it. I have been wanting to make me a stove even though I don't need it. It would be fun to do.
The technique of using your little paint cans stove is the same as using a woodstove in your house. You need to be able to just the flu, adjust airflow so that it doesn’t burn up all your word and not put out any heat.
Need to shut off holes on bottom of can, make an air intake hole on bottom of door. More you shut it down, more fire stays inside, need some air to keep fire going tho. That control of air coming in, is the control of any wood stove.
With the door slightly ajar, you are creating a venturi effect. Sort of like blowing on the fire. Thus the hotter burn.
Makes sense to me. Hope take take this out into the back country this winter. 🤙 Thanks for watching.
Awesome video
Thanks!
You can cook on top of a can stove. All you need to do is weld a thin metal plate or metal rack on the top for the pan to sit on.
Like this: th-cam.com/video/hJfRsd2zuKc/w-d-xo.html
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i think not good heat transfer as flattened surface directly getting flame
@@duggydugg3937 What you say is true to a extent, but there are ways to cook with something like this if you added some type of wire rack on the top. I guess it would depend on what you are trying to make.
i would flatten the top of the can..since flames are directly in contact under the top of the can..or maybe use a square can to begin with.. 🤔
@@duggydugg3937 If you flatten the can on top it would make the ends weak where the seal is. I was thinking about building one of these, but I decided to buy a cheap wood stove instead. I used to burn in a burn barrel and they burned through pretty quick, and that is much thicker steel than these cheap tin cans.
Could make a very simple door vent/damper out of an L shaped metal blank (like one of the break-out expansion slot covers from and old desktop computer). Pin it to the outside of the door with a few bolts and washers above and below the blank, drill some holes through both the blank, and the door, then simply slide the blank in its washer ‘bearings’ to open and close the holes.
I have one of those laying around. I'll think about that. Thanks for watching 🤙
How about closing the shelter to retain the heat?
Nice video I thought about trying this but decided to go to something a little bigger and save myself the labor. That thermometer looks more expensive than your shelter and stove put together, what is that exactly? I’m just curious
Really nice job on the stove build, not sure I would like cooking on it or processing wood for it, nice video
Hey Cny Backpacker,
Processing wood for this stove is a lot more work for sure, due to its shallow depth. Thanks for checking out the video. 😊🙏
So the paint cans stove won’t get you sick? It’s only the galvanized metal that will get you sick? I just want to make sure because I don’t want to take a chance with anything that would get me sick so if it’s between purchasing a titanium stove and being sick I think I would just spend the money on the titanium stove but I was kind of jumping around this video because I’m kind of getting tired and going to sleep soon so I might just watch the whole thing in the morning or some thing that what I gathered from the little bit that I caught of that is that the paint canned stuff you made it safe but the square one isn’t? Really cool videos though I appreciate it.
I'd hands down recommend a titanium stove over this.
I'm going to make one for my overlander, yeah my truck ...
Cool!
additionally, you could just drill some small holes in the door
thanks for the video but i do not need a stove for heat I'm only interested in it for cooking, so
how do we cook/boil water on the paint can stove ?
Boiling is a bit tricky due to the concave top. However, I took a shot at that while back. Here's the video: th-cam.com/video/KmOsvu0u8nY/w-d-xo.html
Paint not pant in description. Might not come up in searches. Great plan building one. Thank you
Hahaha Thanks for catching that. I ain't never been a good speller.
@@SignalOutdoors i do it all the time lol. Thank you for the great channel and knowledge 👌💪
Perhaps pressed sawdust bricks would be more efficient. You must be feeding the stove constantly with wood. The bricks will last for hours. I appreciate your creativity. Keep experimenting!
Stay tuned, I have something along those lines in the works.
Please show us the stove pipe penetration out the tent. What you do to keep it from burning the tent?
Hello Sharon, this tent is made specifically for using a wood stove. There's a patch made if fiberglass/silicone that velcro's into place. If you go to the website for the tent they show it there. luxe-hiking-gear.com/
@@SignalOutdoors thanks for reply. Like the set-up.
Also, if you need wood in wet conditions you can whittle down wood to the dry interior. I know it's a lot of work but in a survival situation it works
Very true
for good heat dissipation -> use the principle of an rocketstove
Steel vs aluminum rivets might be better too.
Yeah no doubt, when I built the larger $50 I made the switch over to steel rivets. Thanks for watching. 🤙
Is it possible to burn too hot in the can?
I haven't had any issues and I've let this thing crank as hard as it could. The stove may burn through a little faster if you run it real hot all the time. If you put some hardware cloth on the bottom, that will help keep the real hot coals off the bottom of the stove and will help the stove last longer. Good question and thanks for watching.
It's unfortunate you are trying for significant heat gains in a open bottom tent. It would be cool to see if there is a noticeable heat increase with a tent which includes a bottom floor to isolate the snow below the tent and see what the temperature gauge reads.
I agree, that would be an interesting test. Unfortunately don't have a tent that has a floor with a stove jack. One thing I'm going to try on my next trip is to bring a small fan. I'm thinking that will help bring the hot air at the top of the tent down by me and give a better average temperature in the tent. Thanks for watching. Take care
Are you worried about burning pine in such a small stove and pipe?
Not really, however it's not my first choice. If you burn a lot of pine there's a good chance the spark arrestor will eventually clog. For that reason I highly recommend having a carbon monoxide detector in the tent. Birch is another good one for plugging up the spark arrestor. Thanks for watching 🤙
Nice job! It fun to build stuff like this :>) -Mike
Check out the process of removing in the galvanizing with hydrochloric acid or sulfuric acid. That's what people do for welding steel sometimes.
That I could see being a good option for small parts but that seems just hazardous as burning off the galvanization. I'd be curious to see the process though.
Need some bigger wood to put in.
Galvanized are no problem as long as you burn it long enough in the open so it burns of the steel!
Back when I made that video I was pretty unsure about that whole situation. I still have the video of me creating that stove. I'm thinking I might go ahead and post it. I'll just put a disclaimer on there.
This is much better to make then get a stupidly expensive stove just for a tent
They both have they're pro and cons. Glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for watching 🤙
@@SignalOutdoors nah man I didn’t do anything thinks to you that stove is all you need if you put your mind into something you can do anything in the world
$25 for the stove $125 for the flu pipe...🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🙄🙄🙄
hahah Yeah I hear ya. If you're getting into hot tenting the titanium flue is worth every penny (IMO). Chances are you'll upgrade your stove at some point and you'll be ahead of the curve. You'd just need to figure out a dampener solution. I figured I'd throw that option out there given a steel flue would be about double the weight of the stove itself. Just an option. Take care and thanks for watching.
Need a dampener, inside your stove pipe. All slot will so is let the sparks, smoke, get inside the tent..could get carbon monoxide poisoning.
Also, get some stove cement to seal the lid on the can, and think about getting some fireproof rope that is used on woodstove doors. I would use the rope around the inside of the door.
burn off the gavanized coating at 1000 f and let burn for 5 -6 hours poof coating gone
i would maybe take a small soup can and add it to the bottom portion of the stove, and use it to collect ash
can u use this inside a home?
I'd utilize auto exhaust pipe that'd fit that hole, for exhaust. Pack short pieces inside when tearing it down. Have your pipe cut to short lengths and have them where they'd stack together fitting inside each other, from start to end, whatever length you need. Make final a flue topper to catch any fire going up the pipe. Maybe cut slots in the sides of the pipe.. Slot it in 1/3's or 1/4's of pipe circumstance. Your choice, just letting it get rid of smoke. Just saying!
Hey man, I'm just reading into hot tent camping, looks like your figuring it out nicely, cool stuff. I wanted to say that I saw a video where a dude removed the galvanized coating off the stove by soaking it in vinegar for a day. th-cam.com/video/6VIm8bUhCv8/w-d-xo.html is a link to the video of the dude making the stove, it's at the very end where he talks about removing galvanized coating with vinegar. I haven't done more research into it, but if you've still got your DIY stove, maybe you can soak it in vinegar and have yourself a backupstove! Anyways, good vid, thanks.
For a wood grate, I see if you could find one that'd fit the can about an inch up from the bottom of the can. And I'd line the bottom of the can with some sand to keep it from burning out from the hot coals resting below it, remember Safety First!
I saw another video showing he drilled small holes in the bottom of his door and attached another piece of the can over those holes attached with a bolt that allowed that small piece to be lifted to expose 1 or more of the holes drilled. It worked well for draft control.
Legs on round can can be made like other one, but be sure you set the stoves on the ground, not onto a sewn-in ground sheet, or get a fire proof base to set it on! Safety First!
dont be so afraid of the zinc. It's not a heavy metal. Your body can use it and get rid of it. The layer is small and it will burn off in no time. One run outside and it's gone. If it's not then it will stay there. The can was galvanized too IMO. No problem. If you still hesitate I'll buy it from you 🙂
Good point, I was pretty cautious until I did some more research. I've since built and even bigger stove. It's on the channel here. Thanks for watching! 🤙
the reason that it wasn't getting warm in the tent when the door was wide open is that all of the hot air was getting sucked right out of the tent through the stove like a giant vacuum. If you dampen down the stack and have just enough draw from the front to have a decent flame, then your shelf will also start working. You had no gas reburn because of the high air flow. Sometimes less is more.
That whole process was a bit of an enigma to me when I made that video. 😄
charcoal/lump coal along with wood. you won't be disappointed and a small stove like that a bag will go very far
Cool! I'll try that sometime. Thanks for watching🤙
Good job could you put the chimney out the back that way you'd have more room for a cook pot
Yeah I think that would be a much better design. Eventually this one will burn through. I'll try that if I were to build another one for sure. Take care 🤙
Why not try a stacked stove. Two cans one on top of the other with the pipe between the two
Wow that would be super cool! I'll have to investigate that. Thanks for watching Steven! Take care🤙
maybe rocket stove ? less smoke..cook top ?
That would work for sure but wouldn't work inside the tent. I should make one of those though. For a fair weather trip that would be a fun option. Take care and thanks for watching. 🤙
@@SignalOutdoors
i was thinking the type with bucket upside down over fire tube... smoke pipe exit down low on bucket / drum
don't remember where I saw this done.. a bot bulkier but effective...