Great vid man. I gotta say it suuuucks playing a bunch of acc teams we have no history with. I’m a lifer nd fan and live 5 miles from campus in Michigan. Man if we could play our old regional rivals every year like Michigan, Purdue, mich state I think fans would quickly forget independence
The only way ND joins a conference is not having a shot at the playoffs due too many conference teams getting automatic qualifiers. Money will never be an issue. When ND hand is finally forced, I hope they join the B10. Go Irish! ☘☘🍀🍀
Money has always been the issue for Notre Dame. When they were very good they could make considerably more outside a Conference. Well those days are over the Big 10 and SEC teams will be making considerably more than Notre Dame.
@whuszarik4173 Ill clarify what I meant to say about money. ND makes more than enough money to sustain their independency. But If smaller programs start to make more than like $20-30 million more than ND then yes, that'll be a problem for ND. Paying and keeping good coaches now and in the future is gonna cost some big money. Especially with coaches dealing with transfers and NIL deals. I mean it only took like 16 teams in a conference (32 total) to finally start making ND sweat. Eventually any team is gonna fold. Just impressive that ND has held out for this long.
@matthewhuszarik4173 by what metric are you gaging the "more money" being made? When playoff game money or bowl money is paid out, guess who doesn't have to split it with 12-16 other programs?
@@matthewhuszarik4173 Yes, but ND does not have a money issue with 9 billion in endowments. They did a half a billion dollar upgrade on the stadium, just built a 50 million dollar indoor practice building, now spending another 150 million for players' facilities upgrade that was just done 15 years ago.
the plan could be to move the rest of the sports over to the Big 10 and still keep football independent but with a schedule alliance with the Big 10 just like they do with the ACC.
I'm a Penn State Alum and I remember when PSU was independent. Part of me was sad at the loss of that independence but I knew it would benefit PSU joining the BIG10.
ND to the B1G makes too much sense. Geographically, culturally, and rivalries galore. Most of their major rivals are in the B1G: Michigan, Michigan State, Penn State, Northwestern, Purdue, Nebraska, and USC…. Not to mention the great games and series they can have with Ohio State, Oregon, Washington, Wisconsin and Iowa.
Honestly I have never been a big independent fan. I've been a die hard ND fan my whole life but I am in the minority back in the 90s, 2000s, that the Irish should join the big 10. It makes total sense we do play hockey in the big 10. Thanks for the notre dame segments that you do appreciate it! Go Irish
I’ve said it 1,000 times before…and now comes #1,001. Notre Dame needs to join the Big Ten. The writing’s on the wall. Notre Dame’s hand is gonna be forced. As Nike says, Notre Dame needs to “Just Do It.”
Sounds pretty un-American. Forcing others to do what you want. Telling others what they "need to do". You sound A LOT like those people in 2020/2021, trying to force people to do things to their bodies, against their will. Pretty gross, man. Pretty gross....
OH MY GOD IT'S HAPPENING! I'll come back to this next week and it will look visionary! Or instead I'll likely forget this until 8 years from now when it actually happens. 🤔
The four power conference champs and the top G5 school should be the only ones who get an auto-bid to the CFP. My hope is that the playoff eventually expands to 16 schools and it is stipulated that no more than four schools from any one conference can get in. If you finish 5th in your conference, you don't deserve to participate in a 12 or 16-team playoff. JMO.
Big 10 needs to stay aggressive. FSU, Miami, Clemson, ND. Snatch them first snd let the SEC take in Virginia, NC, Duke and maybe tech/nc state depending on their home state politics.
Notre Dame is contracted to play five ACC teams through 2037, I believe. So I don’t think the Big Ten wants to buy out their contract, and Notre Dame doesn’t want to pay a penalty by leaving early. so I think they’re probably going to join the ACC eventually, although I rather have them playing in the Big Ten.
Their buyout is $100 million. The TV revenue differential amounts to ~$65 million/yr increase by moving to the Big ten. The buyout is not what's keeping them in the ACC.
I think there's a really good chance that the big 10 can pick up Notre Dame Lord estate and North Carolina and boy. If they can get all 3 of those teams, they're going to definitely improved their brand greatly. Not just in football but in basketball two. If that happens they just need one more school and they'll have twenty teams.
ND Stanford cal andMiami should join B1G. Unc fsu uva and Clemson can join sec. Fsu does not have the academics to join the big ten no matter how delusional their fan base is about the state of their academics. It’s still important to big ten schools.
You do realize that just about all types of magnetic field research happens I'm the national lab on FSU's campus. One of the big reasons FSU's academics is coming up. FSU was a women's college until the 50s strictly and UF had to be forced by the legislature to play them. The only thing holding FSU back from AAU status is a medical school and they will have that up and running within the next year or so. All the other schools there are highly rated and the athletes do very well in the classroom not just on the field. The big three sports are coming along and academics isn't far behind. Only ones who don't want to see it are haters themselves.
@@encycl07pedia it’s not even an aau school. It’s not top twenty. It’s top 50 NATIONAL. You had to omit all liberal arts and private schools to get into top 25.
@@CFBAddiction The buyout is upward of $100 million. They can afford it, but do they want to? The ACC has been good for ND. And if ND joined the ACC, their media rights payout would also increase.
I'm of the opinion that football should do something totally different than all the other sports. In all this talk about whether or not Notre Dame is going to join the B1G or the ACC, nobody mentions all the other schools that are in these conferences that contribute absolutely nothing, football-wise. Vanderbilt, Purdue, Kentucky, Indiana, South Carolina, Rutgers, etc. have done nothing, and bring nothing to the table. I would be all for a football only re-draft. Teams like Ohio State, Georgia, Alabama, and Michigan play in their own 16-18 team league. Then you go from there to the next level, with teams like Miami, Wisconsin, and Tennessee. And so on down the line. Why should Northwestern get all the benefits that Ohio State brings in? Why should Arkansas reap the same monies that Alabama brings in?
ND already joined the ACC in football for one year. They will do what's best for them. I don't see them being a good conference member because they have always gotten special treatment. Their conference has been NBC. ND joining the ACC even though it was only 20% was the bigger shock. I still laugh about the Big 10 taking the Terps as revenge like the ACC cared
The title states 'DETAILS SURFACE'. What details are in this video that already haven't been expounded upon? Notre Dame is private. Their NBC contracts have never been made public. There was a press release last fall that mentioned that ND and NBC had come to an agreement on the TV contract extension. Terms were not disclosed as usual...ND is a private institution. ND knew that they would never be afforded a 'bye' in the college football playoff. This is old news and was known to everybody better than a year ago. In fact, ND was at the negotiating table and agreed that they would never have a first-round bye. ND is contractually obligated to join the ACC in football should they so desire (or be required) to join a conference. As long as the ACC is intact, ND will stay with the ACC. The only way that ND joins a conference in the immediate future is if the ACC implodes, the revenue disparity becomes too much to ignore, a path to the playoffs is denied, and if they don't have a place for their Olympic sports to compete. This whole video is nothing new and is just click-bait.
The facts I stated are true and have been available to all for some time. Nothing new here. I do agree with you that if the ACC falls apart, ND will most likely join the BIG. Personally, I don't see ND buying their way out of the ACC contract like FSU is attempting to do. Like all schools, (athletic departments), money is a concern, but it is not currently the over-riding factor for ND. ND's previous NBC contract earned them less than had they been a full ACC member. I forget the numbers, but at the end of the current NBC contract, ND will be making about $25 million per year plus the additional proceeds from the ACC Network, so they weren't even grossing as much as full ACC members.@@CFBAddiction
No doubt! ND reminds me of the women that spout "I don't need no man", and remain single and miserable with a houseful of cats for the rest of their lives. Meow!
@@jkmarshall3553 ND tried to join the B10 a long time ago but was denied. Ever since then, ND expanded their brand and now don't need other teams to help them thrive. What's so wrong with that?
@@brianjirish what does that have to do with it? FSU never clung to its independence as if they were special. They’ve been in the ACC since ‘92 and were in two now defunct conferences prior to that…your comment is invalid.
I think that it is almost premature to try and nail down conferences till we find out how the recent ruling essentially banning the NCAA from enforcing NIL payments plays out. My interpretation of this ruling is that it essentially legalizes buying players on the open market, which is going to eventually force teams into one of two camps: Those that are willing to raise and spend the money needed to buy the players needed to compete with the other teams that are buying players, and those that decide that they are not willing (or financially able) to compete in that financial war. I would suggest that college sports will soon split into those willing to "spend what it takes" and those that will not do NIL at all - they will have recruits sign an agreement waiving NIL rights, replaced by the scholarship paying for their education and a small "spending money" amount. This could affect conferences and change who is and is not in the major conferences, especially if the SEC / Big 10 (for example) require all to be in the "spend the money" camp. Since this would dramatically "blur" the difference between the NFL and the college teams participating in the NIL player buying wars, perhaps it might be time to pair up teams with NFL teams and have the colleges become official farm teams to the NFL teams. It would probably be wise to form some committees to study how to engage the fans, like me, who are so turned off by this nonsense that we quit paying attention to college sports altogether.
The ruling basically stripped the ncaa from governing college football. The P2 will soon break away from the toothless ncaa and form their own governing body. The P2 will expand to the necessary amount of teams that creates the largest market share. The ruling does create a bidding war, however unlimited amounts of money does not guarantee champions. See tamu, Texas, and Oregon. Culture and coaching will still have a bearing on outcomes.
ND is contractually REQUIRED to join the ACC if it joins any conference for football. Why do folks keep ignoring this? This was part of the agreement for allowing their Olympic sports to compete in the ACC.
This is correct. They can also exit the contract just like any other ACC team paying the buyout. Except football would be excluded, so the buyout would be peanuts.
@@CFBAddiction Nah. Notre Dame will join ACC which would bring the value of the ACC up. You are the one that wants the ACC to fall apart for months now.
@fivecents4093 What a crock of shit. Michigan would not do that nor have the power to stop it. For 1 ND was never gonna join the Big 10. That was a untrue rumor. 2nd the Michgan/ND game was 1 of the biggest revenue games of all time. ND pulled out of the series twice. Michigan wanted to play ND every year. It would make no sense for Michigan to oppose it. And even if they did, they are 1 team. Several Big 10 teams want ND in the league. Plus the League itself wanted them. If ND wanted in it would have been a done deal. ND wanted a Part time deal like the ACC was offering and the Big 10 said Hell No. so they ran to the ACC. It was REPORTED all over the news. Where the hell did you get your info? This is why you RESEARCH BEFORE YOU SPEAK.
@DrewAndrews YOU do your research... it's a FACT ND tried to join the Big10 and Michigan blackmailed them. I'm not even a big Irish Homer and know that.
This is one of the many problems right here! We have way too many ignorant people, who don't know anything about Notre Dame, running their mouths and repeating a bunch of false narratives. Money has never been an issue with ND. That is the reason ND can remain independent and will continue to remain independent because they are one of the only teams that can do it and survive because they are such a big national name brand. They are a huge draw and have their own independent national TV contract and make big money. Other schools, even big ones like Texas have tired it and failed, that is why teams join conferences. ND is it's own unique animal, like it, or not. Notre Dame does not need to join a conference and values their independence more than anything and will only join a conference, if they cannot make the playoffs for some bizarre reason, which shouldn't happen anytime soon. I don't know why people want to keep bringing this up over and over and over again, when it has already been said and debunked many times, right out of the mouth of ND's head people, including the coach and head athletic director Jack Swarbrick, who happens to also be on the college football playoff committee. Jack, his staff, form top to bottom are all in agreement, that they couldn't be more happier with their independence right now and have said many times, that remaining independent means more to them now, then ever. So all these ignorant, false narratives need to just stop and be put away because it is just false, ignorant, lazy, wrong and annoying!
The random number for payouts is probably based on playing B1G teams. NBC wants ND to play more B1G games because ratings are better than ACC teams. As for the 12 team playoffs, the ND AD was part of the group deciding the format and was on board with not getting a top 4 bid. If ND does join the B1G, the payout per team will be so large I could see them stealing SEC teams like Texas and Texas A&M who are both AAU members.
As an alumnus I loathe anything but independence. People don’t know the history. The possibility of joining the Big Ten makes me want to vomit. I’d rather join an ACC Big 12 merger.
Won’t happen until its obviously not viable to compete at the highest level as a independent. As a ND fan I realize it’s not a matter of if but when they join the B1G so everyone needs to calm down and let it play out☘️
I am an ND fan and hope they join the Big 10. It feels like they aren't a part of everything anymore. If there are more guaranteed spots for the Big 10 and SEC they will join.
My updated prediction with everything that’s happened this month: FSU, ND, Stanford, Miami to Big 10 Clemson, UNC, NC Stare, UVA, VT, and Louisville to the SEC
The BIG isn't adding two Florida teams. If they add FSU, Miami will go to the BIG 12 cause the SEC doesn't want them. The BIGs dream is to add FSU and ND. If that can't happen then FSU and UNC. The SEC would add UNC and Virginia if they could.
Notre Dame plays pretty much every other sport in the ACC, so they will never be left out. They will always have the option to join the ACC. All they really have to do is get USC to continue playing them non conference. Stanford is in the ACC, a common foe.
I DIDN'T understand why N D . Get any more than any one else. I am a GBR fan. N D hasn't won any thing for years even longer than the Cornhuskers have. I think it is time for them to be in a Conference.
Notre dame fan here: to all of the Notre dame haters (which is fine, no judgements here) do you all want Notre dame to finally join the Big Ten or any conference for that matter or would you rather them sink slowly as it appears might be the outcome this time around for not joining? Is it too little too late for you?!? Just wondering.
It is inaccurate to state ND is “not at the table” as Jack S was part of the group that set the 12 team playoff model. In that model ND traded away a bye possibility for the ability to have a home playoff game and get to the finals playing the same number of games (16) as anyone else. Finally, independence has nothing to do with arrogance. There have been many independents throughout NCAA history, and ND was rejected 3 times in trying to join the Big 10 due to fear and anti-catholic sentiment from Michigan AD. A global brand enables it, they play a top 20 schedule difficulty every year, and have $ due to success. However, in an expanded CFP format it may make sense for ND to join the Big 10 after all…as long as they aren’t blocked again.
ND and their fans have no issue with current setup. It’s everyone else that seems to care so much. We don’t have a conference championship so we’d play the same number of games as anyone else.
I'm a B1G fan and I'm over Notre Dame. They had a lot of leverage and star power back when we were a 14-team conference with only 3 elite teams. Now with Oregon, USC, Washington, and potentially FSU/Miami/Clemson, I feel like ND has lost a lot of luster. ND joining the B1G is a great story and good for branding. In terms of on-the-field performance, I mean they'll be the 5th or 6th best team most years. I'm just indifferent now for the first time in my life which should worry ND fans and administration because I doubt I'm the only one.
Understand and somewhat agree but when the conference takes teams it will be an even number so if it's Clemson FSU Miami someone else has to be in the picture
@@funny2thag I don't think Clemson is a priority, but they're definitely on the list. In terms of football, they still bring more to the table than UNC and UVA who are also on the list.
ND is only 1 of 4 teams to make the playoffs multiple times. Yes, ND has yet got over the hump in beaten elite teams or won a big bowl game in the last 30+ yrs but so have the other 120-125 teams as well. ND is just missing the right head coach to get them to the promise land. Also in this day in age. It's pretty impressive that ND can go into any meeting by themselves while other teams has to bring in their conference to bring in sway. ND is stronger now than it has ever been. "All" of us Irish fans know that the day will come when ND will be force to join a conference due to not having a shot at the playoffs. You say ND would be the 5-6 best team in a conference? Come on lets not be that dramatic. smh
With the two Super Conferences, (possibly a 3rd or 4th out of other schools' necessities) Notre Dame has to join. And the BIG makes the most sense. Otherwise they will start to be irrelevant as an independent as it will be hard to make the playoffs that way. On a side note, the NCAA is a joke and never underestimate their ability to do something self centered and stupid.
Notre Dame is not joining a conference any time soon. They have TV contracts set and big market Programs lining up to play them. Clemson, Ohio St., USC, Bama, TA&M, Fla St. ect, ect.... They ALL make great money playing Notre Dame. ND has an 18 BILLION dollar endowment fund. They dont need your conference money. Most Notre Dame fans accept the first round playoff game as fair trade for a Power 4 Title game. No one is arguing against that. We welcome a home playoff game in the snowy midwest in late December.....
ND fan here. I value ND independence to preserve rivalries and the ability to schedule games with a wide variety of opponents from other conferences. However if a power 2 is further solidified, I think they need to join one of them. Unfortunate as it is for the sport and what makes college football special…
Notre Dame hasn't been a true independent since the ACC deal. They effectively play a conference schedule every year with the 5 ACC games, USC, Stanford, and Navy. Part of the reason they had to cut that deal with the ACC is it was becoming increasingly difficult for them to put together a decent schedule. They were playing an insanely front loaded schedule and then a bunch of G5 teams aside from USC.
@@jonathanloesche4723yeah but the ACC is generally weak and on top of those traditional rivalries, it has allows us to schedule Texas, Georgia (twice), OSU (twice), Wisconsin, etc.
If the B1G and SEC move to 10 conference games, every team will want two home out-of-conference games (7 total). Notre Dame could keep USC, and USC would need to accept only six home games in the alternate years. How many schools would accept six home games to give Notre Dame a home game? Notre Dame would be cut out of B1G and SEC games, and Notre Dame would be playing Stanford, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, and Boston College instead of Ohio State, Alabama, Michigan, or Texas. Notre Dame would no longer play a 'tough' schedule. Recruits wouldn't be excited to play an away game in Ames, IA. The goal is survival with the demographic cliff. There are not enough students to maintain the number of colleges in the US. This expansion is not driven by TV money. The drive is to maintain student populations. The TV money improves Universities' Marketing for students and research dollars. Good Luck to every school and every fan base. It will be an interesting few decades.
ND hasn't played a bunch of b10 schools since the 90's. ND used to play 3 big ten schools every yr, and then rivalries with USC, Navy lol and then teams from around the country.
The ACC is dead as a football conference. ESPN put a stake through its heart just to give Nick Saban 1 more shot to go out a winner. They sold their soul...
Notre Dame fan. I don't care if they stay independent or not. Its not important. But I think they do have a pretty good situation with their TV deal, and not needing to share that with Northwestern, Maryland, etc.. But I do think they are reaching the point where they need to give strong consideration to joining. I don't think the playoff system will leave them "out" if they are deserving. Unless the Big 10 and SEC decide to flip the board over and say their two conference champs are playing each other for the national title, and build playoffs within their conferences (semi finals). If most all of the high profile programs join those two conferences, they will have the clout to do that, and if they can why wouldn't they? Anyway, my prediction is that ND will join the Big 10 in 2026, same timing as this current playoff model expiring. I also think there will be several other schools on the move the same time, and it probably takes that long for FSU to actually break out of the ACC, officially. Things may be announced sooner, but I think this is when the next big shuffle occurs. If ND happens to hold out then, they might actually lose their opportunity. But I also think the big 2 conferences should want any school that has a real ligament chance to challenge their claim to hold the path to the national title. If ND stays out, and goes undefeated. Similar for FSU or Clemson. It will tarnish the SEC and Big 10 power to claim that their champion is the true champion, and they are then unsuccessful in their quest to usurp power from the NCAA.
Actually, I think it shows he is not delusional. No one thinks about Notre Dame when talking about the most relevant programs currently playing. They are always a threat from the past but rarely a present one.
A grand total of 4 teams from the western half of the country can't possibly be the final configuration! The majority of population growth, over the next 30 years, will come from the west. There's got to be room for a few more teams!
To me, my personal feelings are, if you can’t stay independent, try to join Big10 in football only, then try to join the Big East in other sports. Still some semblance of “independence” “us vs them” and brings them back/ties them to a relevant and majority Catholic basketball conference that that has nothing to do with the Big10, in anything but Football. Fuck Michigan.
The big ten will add FSU and ND then stop at 20 they have a negotiation with there contract if the add ND to the big ten the SEC will add Clemson , Virginia UNC and NC State !
No way ND joins the Big 10 conference this was a rumor from 2012 to 2014 during big 10 expansion. I doubt they want into a conference they were spurned by and then they spurned the Big 10. But we will have to wait and see if this rumor comes true.
I am a Notre Dame Football fan and I think the day is finally here for Notre Dame to join a conference. I can see Notre Dame joining the BIG 10, but it would be cool if Notre Dame joined the SEC.
Notre Dame makes MORE PROFITS THAN most of the teams now and in the future Ohio State and Alabama NEVER MAKE OUR PROFITS 💵💵💵 PRIVATE COLLEGE OR PUBLIC COLLEGE MEANS 8,073 STUDENTS VS 46,000 STUDENTS pay your own bills 🤣🤣💵💵☘️☘️
People gotta say ND is not in a conference. The are. They're in contract with the ACC. They played for an ACC championship. They have the same exit fee on grant of rights as all other ACC members. ND can't join the B1G 10 without paying the same exit fee Florida State was trying to avoid paying. NBC airs all of ND home games. ND is required to play 5 ACC teams in a season.
No. Let them keep their ego like the Pac12 presidents. I'm all for chaos, and would love to see how ND falls to obscurity while pretending they are something they haven't been for 30 years.
@@daelkolwitz3509 So Michigan before thisare year did not have sole NC for 75 years. Where they irrelevant? Georgia before their last NC was 35 years has. Clemson the same. Texas been 30 years. So stop with the BS.
It's no smoke out there about ND joining a conference, you're just desperate for content during the off-season.... there's no model for CFP that don't include ND
Now that there will be a 12 team playoff, I believe ND will make the playoff every year that they have 3 losses or less in the regular season. Joining a conference could only hurt them, not help them.
Let's say that FSU AND Clemson go to the BIG10. There really is nobody left, outside of ND, that moves the needle for the SEC or BIg10. The ACC is handicapped and 4-6 go to the BIG12. Now you have a P3 with the BIG10 on top. Which conference says no to a 3 game deal with ND? I'm going to say none. ND doesn't need a conference to make the CFP. That is nonsense. The 12 team playoff devalues the conference championship games especially if there is just a P3 remaining. ND will remain Independent. They won't share their money with Rutgers and Indiana.
Until FSU gets that AAU certification, they aren't going to the BIG. Nebraska better get it together quickly before they get the boot. They've had 12 years.
@@xannyfamily1 Miami could end up in the BIG10 but it is a longshot. Their viewership is well below the average BIG10 team, That's what drives this. Remember Oregon and Washington got in by the skin of their teeth by taking reduced shares. Seattle is the 6th largest TV market in the US.
@@frictionhitch I don't know. Rutgers and Maryland didn't have the viewership, but they had the markets and that equals BIG 10 TV subscription dollars. Seattle-Tacoma is the 13th largest DMA. Miami-Fort Lauderdale is 18th. Atlanta is 6th. Coupled with the rich Georgia recruiting bed in the heart of the SEC, Georgia Tech also being AAU, and the BIG having previously expressed interest, I think Georgia Tech is much higher up the list of BIG wants than most people realize.
@@isaacsherman6850 The WWW makes markets obsolete. It used to be that the FCC managed markets and had content limits. The www. erased that. Tuscaloosa is big enough if it gets views. Markets have become ancillary. Carriage fees are quickly becoming a relic of the past. Eyeballs matter. If no eyes watch you can't sell them anything. Again there will be no local carriage fees. You can watch whoever you want regardless of your zip code. Viewership is now king. Deal with it
It's not about money.. If you think the money will lure ND into a conference, you're looking at it wrong. The main concern that would push ND into a conference is if for some reason, they no longer have a seat at the table and they can't make the playoffs, they'll join. However, as long as the conferences allow ND to be involved in negotiations, they will remain independent. Don't have the player, hate the game....
@@CFBAddiction Jack Swarbrick taking a day off is evidence? Please. Perhaps he doesn’t think like crazy TH-camrs THAT the big 10 and Sec are up to something evil!
And let's Squash the dumb Notre Dame Fans who want to keep putting down Michigan. Who are the champs again??? 1988 was a loooooooong time ago. All ND fans are not dummies but the ones on this thread trying to belittle Michigan are! Keep acing like ND is better than everyone else and keep watching the Michigan's, Alabama's, Ohio States, Clemson's, LSUs, Georgia's, etc... win the national championships.
The Big10 going after ND ten years ago made a ton of sense. Now, nope. Just doesn't add enough. I'd prefer to get Unc, Gatech, Fsu and Miami and be the mega conference we know the big ten is! Let Nd run somewhere else.
Money talks and the B10 can hold their own and there’s an NBC contract as well? C’mon and join and quit faking the funk. In the words of the Wu-Tang Clan… “Cash Rules Everything Around Me”!! Peace!! #B10!! 😎
You're right, thats why they are still constantly talked about DAILY by guy like this, have a 35B dollar endowment, and sell out every single stadium they go to. Totally irrelevant... Stop lying to yourself... Both conferences would trip over their tongues to get them.
Lifelong ND fan who agrees that the Big-10 is an obvious and overdue move.
Great vid man. I gotta say it suuuucks playing a bunch of acc teams we have no history with. I’m a lifer nd fan and live 5 miles from campus in Michigan. Man if we could play our old regional rivals every year like Michigan, Purdue, mich state I think fans would quickly forget independence
Thank you!
Didn’t Notre Dame literally help design the new CFP format? Is that not having a seat at the table or…
The only way ND joins a conference is not having a shot at the playoffs due too many conference teams getting automatic qualifiers. Money will never be an issue. When ND hand is finally forced, I hope they join the B10. Go Irish! ☘☘🍀🍀
Money has always been the issue for Notre Dame. When they were very good they could make considerably more outside a Conference. Well those days are over the Big 10 and SEC teams will be making considerably more than Notre Dame.
@whuszarik4173 Ill clarify what I meant to say about money. ND makes more than enough money to sustain their independency. But If smaller programs start to make more than like $20-30 million more than ND then yes, that'll be a problem for ND.
Paying and keeping good coaches now and in the future is gonna cost some big money. Especially with coaches dealing with transfers and NIL deals.
I mean it only took like 16 teams in a conference (32 total) to finally start making ND sweat. Eventually any team is gonna fold. Just impressive that ND has held out for this long.
@matthewhuszarik4173 by what metric are you gaging the "more money" being made?
When playoff game money or bowl money is paid out, guess who doesn't have to split it with 12-16 other programs?
@@matthewhuszarik4173 Yes, but ND does not have a money issue with 9 billion in endowments. They did a half a billion dollar upgrade on the stadium, just built a 50 million dollar indoor practice building, now spending another 150 million for players' facilities upgrade that was just done 15 years ago.
the plan could be to move the rest of the sports over to the Big 10 and still keep football independent but with a schedule alliance with the Big 10 just like they do with the ACC.
I'm a Penn State Alum and I remember when PSU was independent. Part of me was sad at the loss of that independence but I knew it would benefit PSU joining the BIG10.
I’ve been a ND fan, I’m from south bend, I would to see ND in the big ten.
Demographically makes sense. You keep your rivalry with USC and bring back Michigan.
ND to the B1G makes too much sense. Geographically, culturally, and rivalries galore. Most of their major rivals are in the B1G: Michigan, Michigan State, Penn State, Northwestern, Purdue, Nebraska, and USC…. Not to mention the great games and series they can have with Ohio State, Oregon, Washington, Wisconsin and Iowa.
Oh no you left my Rutgers out of the picture 😊
I would like to see Florida State & Notre Dame join the Big Ten
We need NC and Virginia Tech as well boss
Honestly I have never been a big independent fan. I've been a die hard ND fan my whole life but I am in the minority back in the 90s, 2000s, that the Irish should join the big 10. It makes total sense we do play hockey in the big 10. Thanks for the notre dame segments that you do appreciate it! Go Irish
I’ve said it 1,000 times before…and now comes #1,001. Notre Dame needs to join the Big Ten. The writing’s on the wall. Notre Dame’s hand is gonna be forced. As Nike says, Notre Dame needs to “Just Do It.”
Sounds pretty un-American.
Forcing others to do what you want.
Telling others what they "need to do".
You sound A LOT like those people in 2020/2021, trying to force people to do things to their bodies, against their will.
Pretty gross, man. Pretty gross....
They can't "just join" the BIG without satisfying the $100+ million ACC buyout.
Yes, @@isaacsherman6850, this is so. But something tells me that Notre Dame has the necessary $$ to make the buyout possible.
The B1G just signed a contract with NBC to broadcast their sports. So, Notre Dame joining the B1G is a no-brainer.
I dont even care about the playoffs and TV deals, it would just be so much fun for everyone involved for Notre Dame to play B1G rivals every year
Love the show great stuff.
Thank you!
OH MY GOD IT'S HAPPENING! I'll come back to this next week and it will look visionary!
Or instead I'll likely forget this until 8 years from now when it actually happens. 🤔
I am from jersey, love your show!
Thank you!
The four power conference champs and the top G5 school should be the only ones who get an auto-bid to the CFP. My hope is that the playoff eventually expands to 16 schools and it is stipulated that no more than four schools from any one conference can get in. If you finish 5th in your conference, you don't deserve to participate in a 12 or 16-team playoff. JMO.
Big 10 needs to stay aggressive. FSU, Miami, Clemson, ND. Snatch them first snd let the SEC take in Virginia, NC, Duke and maybe tech/nc state depending on their home state politics.
Notre Dame is contracted to play five ACC teams through 2037, I believe. So I don’t think the Big Ten wants to buy out their contract, and Notre Dame doesn’t want to pay a penalty by leaving early. so I think they’re probably going to join the ACC eventually, although I rather have them playing in the Big Ten.
There are ways around contracts, or at least talking them down. The B1G would gladly help pay, too, knowing the kind of money that follows ND.
Their buyout is $100 million. The TV revenue differential amounts to ~$65 million/yr increase by moving to the Big ten. The buyout is not what's keeping them in the ACC.
I think there's a really good chance that the big 10 can pick up Notre Dame Lord estate and North Carolina and boy. If they can get all 3 of those teams, they're going to definitely improved their brand greatly. Not just in football but in basketball two. If that happens they just need one more school and they'll have twenty teams.
This is what I was expecting. ND and FSU to Big 10.
Interesting topic...will believe ND will join any conference when i see it.
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ND Stanford cal andMiami should join B1G. Unc fsu uva and Clemson can join sec. Fsu does not have the academics to join the big ten no matter how delusional their fan base is about the state of their academics. It’s still important to big ten schools.
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You know nothing about academics. FSU is in the Top 20 public universities in the country, dingus.
You do realize that just about all types of magnetic field research happens I'm the national lab on FSU's campus. One of the big reasons FSU's academics is coming up. FSU was a women's college until the 50s strictly and UF had to be forced by the legislature to play them. The only thing holding FSU back from AAU status is a medical school and they will have that up and running within the next year or so. All the other schools there are highly rated and the athletes do very well in the classroom not just on the field. The big three sports are coming along and academics isn't far behind. Only ones who don't want to see it are haters themselves.
@@encycl07pedia it’s not even an aau school. It’s not top twenty. It’s top 50 NATIONAL. You had to omit all liberal arts and private schools to get into top 25.
@@encycl07pedia 💀💀💀 top 25 if you omit anything that’s not public
ND contract says they have to join the ACC if they join any leagues before like 2035 or something i think?
Buyout in non football sports is cheap.
It would never hold up. Based upon everything I’ve read, it’s a gentleman’s clause at best.
Nd walks over the ACC anyways
@@CFBAddiction The buyout is upward of $100 million. They can afford it, but do they want to? The ACC has been good for ND. And if ND joined the ACC, their media rights payout would also increase.
I'm of the opinion that football should do something totally different than all the other sports. In all this talk about whether or not Notre Dame is going to join the B1G or the ACC, nobody mentions all the other schools that are in these conferences that contribute absolutely nothing, football-wise. Vanderbilt, Purdue, Kentucky, Indiana, South Carolina, Rutgers, etc. have done nothing, and bring nothing to the table. I would be all for a football only re-draft. Teams like Ohio State, Georgia, Alabama, and Michigan play in their own 16-18 team league. Then you go from there to the next level, with teams like Miami, Wisconsin, and Tennessee. And so on down the line. Why should Northwestern get all the benefits that Ohio State brings in? Why should Arkansas reap the same monies that Alabama brings in?
ND already joined the ACC in football for one year. They will do what's best for them. I don't see them being a good conference member because they have always gotten special treatment. Their conference has been NBC. ND joining the ACC even though it was only 20% was the bigger shock. I still laugh about the Big 10 taking the Terps as revenge like the ACC cared
I have been a Notre Dame fan since conception they need to join the Big 10. All the old rivals are there now!!!
The title states 'DETAILS SURFACE'. What details are in this video that already haven't been expounded upon? Notre Dame is private. Their NBC contracts have never been made public. There was a press release last fall that mentioned that ND and NBC had come to an agreement on the TV contract extension. Terms were not disclosed as usual...ND is a private institution. ND knew that they would never be afforded a 'bye' in the college football playoff. This is old news and was known to everybody better than a year ago. In fact, ND was at the negotiating table and agreed that they would never have a first-round bye. ND is contractually obligated to join the ACC in football should they so desire (or be required) to join a conference. As long as the ACC is intact, ND will stay with the ACC. The only way that ND joins a conference in the immediate future is if the ACC implodes, the revenue disparity becomes too much to ignore, a path to the playoffs is denied, and if they don't have a place for their Olympic sports to compete. This whole video is nothing new and is just click-bait.
🤝 thanks for taking the time to set us right
The facts I stated are true and have been available to all for some time. Nothing new here. I do agree with you that if the ACC falls apart, ND will most likely join the BIG. Personally, I don't see ND buying their way out of the ACC contract like FSU is attempting to do. Like all schools, (athletic departments), money is a concern, but it is not currently the over-riding factor for ND. ND's previous NBC contract earned them less than had they been a full ACC member. I forget the numbers, but at the end of the current NBC contract, ND will be making about $25 million per year plus the additional proceeds from the ACC Network, so they weren't even grossing as much as full ACC members.@@CFBAddiction
I won’t shed a tear if ND’s arrogance results in them being left out.
No doubt! ND reminds me of the women that spout "I don't need no man", and remain single and miserable with a houseful of cats for the rest of their lives. Meow!
ND is independent bc they can be. Wasn't FSU an independent team once? 🙄🙄
@@jkmarshall3553 ND tried to join the B10 a long time ago but was denied. Ever since then, ND expanded their brand and now don't need other teams to help them thrive. What's so wrong with that?
@@brianjirish what does that have to do with it? FSU never clung to its independence as if they were special. They’ve been in the ACC since ‘92 and were in two now defunct conferences prior to that…your comment is invalid.
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I think that it is almost premature to try and nail down conferences till we find out how the recent ruling essentially banning the NCAA from enforcing NIL payments plays out. My interpretation of this ruling is that it essentially legalizes buying players on the open market, which is going to eventually force teams into one of two camps: Those that are willing to raise and spend the money needed to buy the players needed to compete with the other teams that are buying players, and those that decide that they are not willing (or financially able) to compete in that financial war.
I would suggest that college sports will soon split into those willing to "spend what it takes" and those that will not do NIL at all - they will have recruits sign an agreement waiving NIL rights, replaced by the scholarship paying for their education and a small "spending money" amount. This could affect conferences and change who is and is not in the major conferences, especially if the SEC / Big 10 (for example) require all to be in the "spend the money" camp. Since this would dramatically "blur" the difference between the NFL and the college teams participating in the NIL player buying wars, perhaps it might be time to pair up teams with NFL teams and have the colleges become official farm teams to the NFL teams.
It would probably be wise to form some committees to study how to engage the fans, like me, who are so turned off by this nonsense that we quit paying attention to college sports altogether.
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The ruling basically stripped the ncaa from governing college football. The P2 will soon break away from the toothless ncaa and form their own governing body. The P2 will expand to the necessary amount of teams that creates the largest market share. The ruling does create a bidding war, however unlimited amounts of money does not guarantee champions. See tamu, Texas, and Oregon. Culture and coaching will still have a bearing on outcomes.
ND is contractually REQUIRED to join the ACC if it joins any conference for football. Why do folks keep ignoring this? This was part of the agreement for allowing their Olympic sports to compete in the ACC.
This is correct. They can also exit the contract just like any other ACC team paying the buyout. Except football would be excluded, so the buyout would be peanuts.
@@CFBAddiction Right around $100 million for their buyout. It's not peanuts, but better than what FSU is looking at.
@@CFBAddiction Nah. Notre Dame will join ACC which would bring the value of the ACC up. You are the one that wants the ACC to fall apart for months now.
lol no they will not. Silly talk.
@@CFBAddiction my understanding is the buy out would include football.
Why should they be alarmed? Everybody saw this coming
Norte dame hate Michigan and Ohio state would love to see them in the big 10 for some more big brand rivalries
What makes you so sure the Big Ten wants them.
ND was going to join years ago but Michigan opposed it
Stop they would pull up and chair so fast. So would the sec.
Because they are a huge brand. Trust me, if ND came to the b10 they would be all over that.
@fivecents4093 What a crock of shit. Michigan would not do that nor have the power to stop it. For 1 ND was never gonna join the Big 10. That was a untrue rumor. 2nd the Michgan/ND game was 1 of the biggest revenue games of all time. ND pulled out of the series twice. Michigan wanted to play ND every year. It would make no sense for Michigan to oppose it. And even if they did, they are 1 team. Several Big 10 teams want ND in the league. Plus the League itself wanted them. If ND wanted in it would have been a done deal. ND wanted a Part time deal like the ACC was offering and the Big 10 said Hell No. so they ran to the ACC. It was REPORTED all over the news. Where the hell did you get your info? This is why you RESEARCH BEFORE YOU SPEAK.
@DrewAndrews YOU do your research... it's a FACT ND tried to join the Big10 and Michigan blackmailed them. I'm not even a big Irish Homer and know that.
This is one of the many problems right here! We have way too many ignorant people, who don't know anything about Notre Dame, running their mouths and repeating a bunch of false narratives. Money has never been an issue with ND. That is the reason ND can remain independent and will continue to remain independent because they are one of the only teams that can do it and survive because they are such a big national name brand. They are a huge draw and have their own independent national TV contract and make big money. Other schools, even big ones like Texas have tired it and failed, that is why teams join conferences. ND is it's own unique animal, like it, or not. Notre Dame does not need to join a conference and values their independence more than anything and will only join a conference, if they cannot make the playoffs for some bizarre reason, which shouldn't happen anytime soon. I don't know why people want to keep bringing this up over and over and over again, when it has already been said and debunked many times, right out of the mouth of ND's head people, including the coach and head athletic director Jack Swarbrick, who happens to also be on the college football playoff committee. Jack, his staff, form top to bottom are all in agreement, that they couldn't be more happier with their independence right now and have said many times, that remaining independent means more to them now, then ever. So all these ignorant, false narratives need to just stop and be put away because it is just false, ignorant, lazy, wrong and annoying!
Good commentary and clear thoughts
They should join Big 10 My state would have 3 Big 10 teams but ND better than the other 2
The random number for payouts is probably based on playing B1G teams. NBC wants ND to play more B1G games because ratings are better than ACC teams. As for the 12 team playoffs, the ND AD was part of the group deciding the format and was on board with not getting a top 4 bid. If ND does join the B1G, the payout per team will be so large I could see them stealing SEC teams like Texas and Texas A&M who are both AAU members.
Why do we need conferences?
Playoff spot
As an alumnus I loathe anything but independence. People don’t know the history. The possibility of joining the Big Ten makes me want to vomit. I’d rather join an ACC Big 12 merger.
As an ND fan we need to join a conference I think if we join the ACC we would win the conference, and the ACC won’t fall apart
Many things point to ND getting smart and joining a conf not the least of which is possible talk about divisions.
You are welcome in the Big 10. Sorry about your feelings wolverines
Won’t happen until its obviously not viable to compete at the highest level as a independent. As a ND fan I realize it’s not a matter of if but when they join the B1G so everyone needs to calm down and let it play out☘️
I am an ND fan and hope they join the Big 10. It feels like they aren't a part of everything anymore. If there are more guaranteed spots for the Big 10 and SEC they will join.
My updated prediction with everything that’s happened this month:
FSU, ND, Stanford, Miami to Big 10
Clemson, UNC, NC Stare, UVA, VT, and Louisville to the SEC
The BIG isn't adding two Florida teams. If they add FSU, Miami will go to the BIG 12 cause the SEC doesn't want them. The BIGs dream is to add FSU and ND. If that can't happen then FSU and UNC. The SEC would add UNC and Virginia if they could.
It's a no brainer...
Notre Dame plays pretty much every other sport in the ACC, so they will never be left out. They will always have the option to join the ACC. All they really have to do is get USC to continue playing them non conference. Stanford is in the ACC, a common foe.
funny how big ten originally rejected notre dame, the big ten has let the world know they are waiting on ND...come on ND.
Being the 900 lb media gorilla with the largest fan base in college football, ND can, and will, do whatever it wants.
As a ND fan I’m fine with either conference or staying Indy
I DIDN'T understand why N D . Get any more than any one else. I am a GBR fan. N D hasn't won any thing for years even longer than the Cornhuskers have. I think it is time for them to be in a Conference.
Bruh we been in the CFP twice. Most programs haven’t beaten elite OSU, Bama, Clemson. We ain’t the Cornhuskers Lmao c’mon.
Still a huge draw😢
ND will be FSU partner going to the big
PLUSES of Notre Dame point to the Big Ten. Natural fit ..., JMHO.
Notre dame fan here: to all of the Notre dame haters (which is fine, no judgements here) do you all want Notre dame to finally join the Big Ten or any conference for that matter or would you rather them sink slowly as it appears might be the outcome this time around for not joining? Is it too little too late for you?!? Just wondering.
Is Notre Dame required to join the ACC if they want to join a conference? They are member of the ACC outside of football.
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I don’t see ND relating to other schools like they were equals.
It is inaccurate to state ND is “not at the table” as Jack S was part of the group that set the 12 team playoff model. In that model ND traded away a bye possibility for the ability to have a home playoff game and get to the finals playing the same number of games (16) as anyone else. Finally, independence has nothing to do with arrogance. There have been many independents throughout NCAA history, and ND was rejected 3 times in trying to join the Big 10 due to fear and anti-catholic sentiment from Michigan AD. A global brand enables it, they play a top 20 schedule difficulty every year, and have $ due to success. However, in an expanded CFP format it may make sense for ND to join the Big 10 after all…as long as they aren’t blocked again.
ND and their fans have no issue with current setup. It’s everyone else that seems to care so much. We don’t have a conference championship so we’d play the same number of games as anyone else.
I'm a B1G fan and I'm over Notre Dame. They had a lot of leverage and star power back when we were a 14-team conference with only 3 elite teams. Now with Oregon, USC, Washington, and potentially FSU/Miami/Clemson, I feel like ND has lost a lot of luster. ND joining the B1G is a great story and good for branding. In terms of on-the-field performance, I mean they'll be the 5th or 6th best team most years. I'm just indifferent now for the first time in my life which should worry ND fans and administration because I doubt I'm the only one.
Understand and somewhat agree but when the conference takes teams it will be an even number so if it's Clemson FSU Miami someone else has to be in the picture
@@KINGJAMES2NYC The B1G had 11 teams for over 20 years. Without a division/pod system, there's no requirement for even teams.
I have a hard time seeing Clemson joining B1G. They look on the way down and their academics isn’t great.
@@funny2thag I don't think Clemson is a priority, but they're definitely on the list. In terms of football, they still bring more to the table than UNC and UVA who are also on the list.
ND is only 1 of 4 teams to make the playoffs multiple times. Yes, ND has yet got over the hump in beaten elite teams or won a big bowl game in the last 30+ yrs but so have the other 120-125 teams as well. ND is just missing the right head coach to get them to the promise land.
Also in this day in age. It's pretty impressive that ND can go into any meeting by themselves while other teams has to bring in their conference to bring in sway.
ND is stronger now than it has ever been. "All" of us Irish fans know that the day will come when ND will be force to join a conference due to not having a shot at the playoffs.
You say ND would be the 5-6 best team in a conference? Come on lets not be that dramatic. smh
With the two Super Conferences, (possibly a 3rd or 4th out of other schools' necessities) Notre Dame has to join. And the BIG makes the most sense. Otherwise they will start to be irrelevant as an independent as it will be hard to make the playoffs that way. On a side note, the NCAA is a joke and never underestimate their ability to do something self centered and stupid.
Notre Dame is not joining a conference any time soon.
They have TV contracts set and big market Programs lining up to play them.
Clemson, Ohio St., USC, Bama, TA&M, Fla St. ect, ect....
They ALL make great money playing Notre Dame.
ND has an 18 BILLION dollar endowment fund.
They dont need your conference money.
Most Notre Dame fans accept the first round playoff game as fair trade for a Power 4 Title game. No one is arguing against that. We welcome a home playoff game in the snowy midwest in late December.....
ND fan here. I value ND independence to preserve rivalries and the ability to schedule games with a wide variety of opponents from other conferences. However if a power 2 is further solidified, I think they need to join one of them. Unfortunate as it is for the sport and what makes college football special…
Notre Dame hasn't been a true independent since the ACC deal. They effectively play a conference schedule every year with the 5 ACC games, USC, Stanford, and Navy. Part of the reason they had to cut that deal with the ACC is it was becoming increasingly difficult for them to put together a decent schedule. They were playing an insanely front loaded schedule and then a bunch of G5 teams aside from USC.
@@jonathanloesche4723yeah but the ACC is generally weak and on top of those traditional rivalries, it has allows us to schedule Texas, Georgia (twice), OSU (twice), Wisconsin, etc.
If the B1G and SEC move to 10 conference games, every team will want two home out-of-conference games (7 total). Notre Dame could keep USC, and USC would need to accept only six home games in the alternate years. How many schools would accept six home games to give Notre Dame a home game?
Notre Dame would be cut out of B1G and SEC games, and Notre Dame would be playing Stanford, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, and Boston College instead of Ohio State, Alabama, Michigan, or Texas. Notre Dame would no longer play a 'tough' schedule. Recruits wouldn't be excited to play an away game in Ames, IA.
The goal is survival with the demographic cliff. There are not enough students to maintain the number of colleges in the US. This expansion is not driven by TV money. The drive is to maintain student populations. The TV money improves Universities' Marketing for students and research dollars.
Good Luck to every school and every fan base. It will be an interesting few decades.
ND already plays 3-4 B1G teams every year plus new member USC so its not a real stretch to see them joining the conference.
ND hasn't played a bunch of b10 schools since the 90's. ND used to play 3 big ten schools every yr, and then rivalries with USC, Navy lol and then teams from around the country.
@@kevin3818 true that, and in the 19602, 70s, 80s too - they all still feel like "lately."
The ACC is dead as a football conference. ESPN put a stake through its heart just to give Nick Saban 1 more shot to go out a winner. They sold their soul...
Notre Dame fan. I don't care if they stay independent or not. Its not important. But I think they do have a pretty good situation with their TV deal, and not needing to share that with Northwestern, Maryland, etc.. But I do think they are reaching the point where they need to give strong consideration to joining. I don't think the playoff system will leave them "out" if they are deserving. Unless the Big 10 and SEC decide to flip the board over and say their two conference champs are playing each other for the national title, and build playoffs within their conferences (semi finals). If most all of the high profile programs join those two conferences, they will have the clout to do that, and if they can why wouldn't they? Anyway, my prediction is that ND will join the Big 10 in 2026, same timing as this current playoff model expiring. I also think there will be several other schools on the move the same time, and it probably takes that long for FSU to actually break out of the ACC, officially. Things may be announced sooner, but I think this is when the next big shuffle occurs. If ND happens to hold out then, they might actually lose their opportunity. But I also think the big 2 conferences should want any school that has a real ligament chance to challenge their claim to hold the path to the national title. If ND stays out, and goes undefeated. Similar for FSU or Clemson. It will tarnish the SEC and Big 10 power to claim that their champion is the true champion, and they are then unsuccessful in their quest to usurp power from the NCAA.
It's immensely difficult during this waiting period for the next level of expansion to complete. However, it is so very exciting as well.
To suggest ND "wasn't even thought of" is asinine. It ruins your credibility.
Actually, I think it shows he is not delusional. No one thinks about Notre Dame when talking about the most relevant programs currently playing. They are always a threat from the past but rarely a present one.
Why join the big ten? They would be at the top of the acc now. They could renegotiate the tv contract
A grand total of 4 teams from the western half of the country can't possibly be the final configuration! The majority of population growth, over the next 30 years, will come from the west. There's got to be room for a few more teams!
To me, my personal feelings are, if you can’t stay independent, try to join Big10 in football only, then try to join the Big East in other sports. Still some semblance of “independence” “us vs them” and brings them back/ties them to a relevant and majority Catholic basketball conference that that has nothing to do with the Big10, in anything but Football. Fuck Michigan.
The big ten will add FSU and ND then stop at 20 they have a negotiation with there contract if the add ND to the big ten the SEC will add Clemson , Virginia UNC and NC State !
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The big 25!!!FSU, ND,NC, NCS, Clemson, Virginia, Vtech, and Duke?
you talk about the SEC brand.... in a year with a Big 10 national champ.... SEC is the past Big 10 is the future.
Michigan fan here: Whop De Doo! LOL! Like I really give a Shamrock.
Go Blue 🔥🔥🔥
What is gonna happen to Clemson if ND and FSU go to BIG
No way ND joins the Big 10 conference this was a rumor from 2012 to 2014 during big 10 expansion. I doubt they want into a conference they were spurned by and then they spurned the Big 10. But we will have to wait and see if this rumor comes true.
That's before we had these megadeals. $ talks!
Wouldn’t it be hilarious if the domers join acc and then Clemson and FSU join big ten!!!😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
So ND basketball is in the ACC how they getting put of that?
I am a Notre Dame Football fan and I think the day is finally here for Notre Dame to join a conference. I can see Notre Dame joining the BIG 10, but it would be cool if Notre Dame joined the SEC.
Notre Dame makes MORE PROFITS THAN most of the teams now and in the future Ohio State and Alabama NEVER MAKE OUR PROFITS 💵💵💵 PRIVATE COLLEGE OR PUBLIC COLLEGE MEANS 8,073 STUDENTS VS 46,000 STUDENTS pay your own bills 🤣🤣💵💵☘️☘️
People gotta say ND is not in a conference. The are. They're in contract with the ACC. They played for an ACC championship. They have the same exit fee on grant of rights as all other ACC members. ND can't join the B1G 10 without paying the same exit fee Florida State was trying to avoid paying. NBC airs all of ND home games. ND is required to play 5 ACC teams in a season.
They didn’t join in football and their exit fee isn’t tied to football to be clear.
Notre Dame needs to put their ego aside this time and work with the rest of us for the benefit of the whole sport.
Combing to make 2 super conferences? That is not good for college football.
No. Let them keep their ego like the Pac12 presidents.
I'm all for chaos, and would love to see how ND falls to obscurity while pretending they are something they haven't been for 30 years.
It's not ego sparky. Do some research on why ND is independent before spouting off nonsense.
@@daelkolwitz3509 So Michigan before thisare year did not have sole NC for 75 years. Where they irrelevant? Georgia before their last NC was 35 years has. Clemson the same. Texas been 30 years. So stop with the BS.
No one wants to go to ND anymore for football.. when I was a kid every catholic kid in America would jump at the chance. Not anymore.
Nope. Not going to happen. Notre Dame won't join unless Navy and Stanford joins them.
Not true ND doesn’t need there money
Dude it won't happen.
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It's no smoke out there about ND joining a conference, you're just desperate for content during the off-season.... there's no model for CFP that don't include ND
Subscribe and tell us how wrong we were as this plays out. 🤝
Now that there will be a 12 team playoff, I believe ND will make the playoff every year that they have 3 losses or less in the regular season. Joining a conference could only hurt them, not help them.
Nothing happening in 2024.
and, you are not the center of the college football universe.
Let's say that FSU AND Clemson go to the BIG10. There really is nobody left, outside of ND, that moves the needle for the SEC or BIg10. The ACC is handicapped and 4-6 go to the BIG12. Now you have a P3 with the BIG10 on top. Which conference says no to a 3 game deal with ND? I'm going to say none. ND doesn't need a conference to make the CFP. That is nonsense.
The 12 team playoff devalues the conference championship games especially if there is just a P3 remaining.
ND will remain Independent. They won't share their money with Rutgers and Indiana.
Until FSU gets that AAU certification, they aren't going to the BIG. Nebraska better get it together quickly before they get the boot. They've had 12 years.
Miami would be very valuable for the big ten for that tv market and recruiting
@@xannyfamily1 Miami could end up in the BIG10 but it is a longshot. Their viewership is well below the average BIG10 team, That's what drives this.
Remember Oregon and Washington got in by the skin of their teeth by taking reduced shares. Seattle is the 6th largest TV market in the US.
@@frictionhitch I don't know. Rutgers and Maryland didn't have the viewership, but they had the markets and that equals BIG 10 TV subscription dollars. Seattle-Tacoma is the 13th largest DMA. Miami-Fort Lauderdale is 18th. Atlanta is 6th. Coupled with the rich Georgia recruiting bed in the heart of the SEC, Georgia Tech also being AAU, and the BIG having previously expressed interest, I think Georgia Tech is much higher up the list of BIG wants than most people realize.
@@isaacsherman6850 The WWW makes markets obsolete. It used to be that the FCC managed markets and had content limits. The www. erased that. Tuscaloosa is big enough if it gets views. Markets have become ancillary. Carriage fees are quickly becoming a relic of the past.
Eyeballs matter. If no eyes watch you can't sell them anything. Again there will be no local carriage fees. You can watch whoever you want regardless of your zip code. Viewership is now king. Deal with it
Join a conference we want your money 💵💵💵🤣🤣☘️☘️☘️☘️
Looks like you've found out that ND = views. Hahaha
What's next on the ND network?
It's not about money.. If you think the money will lure ND into a conference, you're looking at it wrong.
The main concern that would push ND into a conference is if for some reason, they no longer have a seat at the table and they can't make the playoffs, they'll join.
However, as long as the conferences allow ND to be involved in negotiations, they will remain independent.
Don't have the player, hate the game....
Hope they join the ACC
LOL!!! not happening.
You’re the ultimate Clickbait guy!
You say there’s so much smoke and fire yet you don’t give one shred of evidence or one quote…nothing
I gave 3 specific reasons to be clear.
@@CFBAddiction Jack Swarbrick taking a day off is evidence? Please. Perhaps he doesn’t think like crazy TH-camrs THAT the big 10 and Sec are up to something evil!
And let's Squash the dumb Notre Dame Fans who want to keep putting down Michigan. Who are the champs again??? 1988 was a loooooooong time ago. All ND fans are not dummies but the ones on this thread trying to belittle Michigan are! Keep acing like ND is better than everyone else and keep watching the Michigan's, Alabama's, Ohio States, Clemson's, LSUs, Georgia's, etc... win the national championships.
The Big10 going after ND ten years ago made a ton of sense. Now, nope. Just doesn't add enough. I'd prefer to get Unc, Gatech, Fsu and Miami and be the mega conference we know the big ten is! Let Nd run somewhere else.
Money talks and the B10 can hold their own and there’s an NBC contract as well?
C’mon and join and quit faking the funk.
In the words of the Wu-Tang Clan…
“Cash Rules Everything Around Me”!!
Peace!!
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ND is not relevant at this the moment.
You're right, thats why they are still constantly talked about DAILY by guy like this, have a 35B dollar endowment, and sell out every single stadium they go to. Totally irrelevant... Stop lying to yourself... Both conferences would trip over their tongues to get them.
@@JSum81 The SEC wouldn't need them. They have Vanderbilt
@@JSum81The endowment figure you made up is off by about $15 billion. ND has been irrelevant since the 1980s.
@jewellegardner1827 did you just compare Vanderbilt to ND?? If you talking academics alone I can see it..but this conversation is about football?
@@akpost8780 no its not..