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The Sony is trying to focus on your practical light and having issues with it. It's quite distracting compared to the Sigma which is buttery smooth and isn't having issues with that background light.
I really appreciate your real world approach. Most reviews on the lens zoom in on pictures and talk about stuff I can barely see. Admittedly, I am not s professional photographer so that might be the key issue but I really appreciate the no nonsense practical application. Just bought one because of this review
HUGE difference! Fist off the image is greener, grainier, more cropped in and not as clear. I would say go with the Sigma. :) Still, the Sony isn't bad. Just not as good.
100% agreed. The Sigma looks so buttery smooth and warm tones, the Sony lens doesn’t look as natural, but it’s a matter of cost. I think the Sigma is worth the money premium.
I think the Sony 16mm is better for outside vlogging if you dont want alot of attention and the size. And the sigma 16mm is great for more indoor on a tripod.
A quick tip about the sigma 16mm lenses that you might not know because I didn’t know and there is almost nothing on the Inter. I just purchased this lense to used on a Sony ZV-E10 and unfortunately and be aware, this is a fix lense, meaning you cannot zoom in and out on the ZV-E10 and also you cannot use the digital zoom that comes with the camera because is not compatible unless you mess about with the function on the camera. That’s the only way that you can use the zoom in and out feature from the camera but not the lense.
The clarity of the Sigma lens is noticeable, but the size of that smaller Sony lens is quite impressive for how good that looks. That might work well for our cockpit someday :) Thanks for this video! Matt and Doc Paradox Aviation
I have a Sony 16 mm 2.8, a Sony 20 mm 2.8, a Sony 50mm 1.8, and a Sony 18-55mm 3.5-5.6. Essentially, I never used the zoom. And they all have been sitting in a drawer since I got my RX100m5 But I'd like to add an Astro prime and a tele prime, for my new 6600...
Thanks for showing some love to this lens! It's great for the price but most reviwers out there I think they test it all wrong. This thing only has 5 elements and was designed for vlogging/environmental portraits om the cheap. That means far/infinity focus is compromised and it probably has plenty of field distortion because of the simple build, so test shots of landscapes or architecture often make it look really bad. Not saying sony can't make ot better but it is definitely better than the kit lens at what it does best.
Is the Sigma a real improvement from the kit 16-50mm lens for the a6400 regarding video ? There is no stabilizazion what scares me a bit, but that background blur is craaaazy !
Sigma is legendary. F1.4 is absolutely amazing, even though on a regular basis, you can't vlog at F1.4. It's super overexposed and too sharp, the F1.4 would probably be best for studio work, live streaming, shooting in low light etc. Focus though, absolutely rubbish. Very heavy for vlogging. Sony, I haven't tested it yet, it's in the mail but it seems to offer 85% of the sigma at much much less weight and most probably a better focus. In my case, the sigma would not balance on my small gimbal, but the sony would. So there you have it.
Do you need to turn up your studio lights with the Sony lens? The reason I ordered the Sigma (still waiting for it) is that I thought I wouldn't need such bright lights when recording or streaming.
To me, it is worth to go for the sigma, since the image quality is better and sharper. imho If i went with the Sony, I would end up getting the sigma down the road..so better get the sigma right of the bat. Im very perfeccionist about lenses image quality, any type of unwanted blurr is a really deal breaker for me
There is a big difference, The fact is when you shooting in low light the Sigma 1.4 will work better and produced desirable footage as the F2.8 will not and you will have to use a noise reduction shortwave that will make your footage softer and that is a no when you have to do commercial work.. you will need more light. in fact, your background light is flickering. in the perfect condition where you control the light, this isn't a big deal. also, the sigma lens is sharper than the sony.
Honestly, was about to buy a sigma 1.4 as I have wanted for a while (real estate videos). Seeing as I’ve been doing well with my f/ 3.5 16mm in terms of light, 2.8 would already let a lot more light in - and as it’s so cheap I’m going to buy that first, and if I’m not happy I’m going to buy the sigma too
I’m using a Canon 70D and I have 6 lenses that I picked up on the cheap but looks great for a hobbies. Just because something is old doesn’t mean it’s obsolete.
I have the Sigma 30mm, but it zooms way too much in. I was thinking of buying the 16mm from Sigma, but the lens itself is so big! This video REALLY helped me! I was thinking "of course no one is gonna talk about using such expensive things as just a webcam, that's silly" - and here you are, showing exactly what I'm looking for! THANK YOU! I just ordered the Sony 16 mm!
I don't know where you can find the Sony lens that cheap, but in Canada, the cheapest for that Sony lens is $200 used. In my opinion, the $300 difference is worth it. Where it isn't worth it is the size of the lens. That Sony is way smaller. And I feel like if you're shooting 16mm at f/2.8, then you might as well just shoot with the kit lens at 3.5. It's prob even less noticeable than the difference between these 2 lenses. The Sigma also crushes the Sony in low light being a full 2 stops faster. That's the difference between shooting at ISO 12800 and ISO 3200.
Hello! I recently purchased the Sony zv e10 camera. It's my first camera ever (i want to use it for filming my youtube video's), so I am absolutely clueless about camera's. When I start my camera, it doesn't film anything. It's very blurry and you can only see the colors changing, but I can't actually film with it. Is this because I didn't attach an extra lens to it? I thought I could use it without buying a lens. Or maybe it's something in the settings? I feel like an idiot but if anyone knows please let me know.
I have a Sony-made “Hasselblad” 16 on my a6000 (Hasselblad’s short-lived APS-C camera was really a Sony) and the Sigma lens on a MFT body. My Sony “Hasselblad” lens cost $149 4 years ago. I used it for every day and street use for 3 years. I bought my Sigma used for $200 - because of great reviews. Yes - it IS very heavy. I like both pieces of glass!
the difference is SO tiny. there was a tiny bit more sharpness with the sigma, which I expected. I think for the use and the budget, I would go with the Sony and then when I am able to to, I would upgrade to the Sigma.
i think the only difference is that the sigma takes in more light from the backlights, and it is slightly warmer. But overall, not much of a difference in my opinion. For someone on a budget, the Sony lens does the job well
Agreed. If I don't win the gear kit this month (which is 99% likely), I'll start out my new setup with a ZV-E10 and the Sony 16mm... It seems decent enough and can still be used as a b-roll side-angle camera later on when upgrading to a more expensive setup. Most of the differences in color can be adjusted with simple color corrections.
That sigma 16mm isn't just good for videos, but photos. I have taken so many great photos from that Sigma. I never even sold it after I sold my aps-c a6300 I kept it once I went full frame.
great video, I own the Sigma 16 but not worth for me to get the Sony prime 16, because I already own the kit lens that came with my a6400. If F-stop isn't an issue then the kit lens is great, light, and still get the job done. Just my thoughts. If I didn't have the kit lens, then yes, I might invest in a Sony prime 16 but for vlogging or talking points on a tripod.
Was really happy with my Sony 16mm until you mentioned Sharpness near the end... ugh. Guess I will be investing in a Sigma. Great comprehensive review!!
Love the stuff! What would be best lens for filming full body golf instruction videos. I hate the way 12mm looks and 16 or 18 is right. I can knock out a couple more feet to help distance. Any suggestions as I’m going in circles Camera is Sony 6400
the lower f-stop on the sigma lens is why the price tag is so high. also paired with the autofocus on the lens. If you go with the sony 16mm you'll be better off if you use manual focus and have decent lighting so you can keep your ISO low. You wont have as deep of a focus range, but it'll still look nice.
only difference i really see is softness in the pancake. but for film, i usually put a bunch of nodes on trying to make my stuff look soft, more film like. so for that situation its probably no issue at all
Unfortunately F2.8 isn't all that fast on an APS-C camera, like it would be on a full frame. You get less light and less bokeh. So the Sony 2.8 would be nice from weight perspective, and better than the kit lens, but it's not punching anywhere close to a 2.8 on a full frame.
I'm making this comment at the three minute mark. There is a definite difference in how it handles light. I don't know if this is in the lens construction or stop difference or the camera setup, but there is a difference in favor of the Sigma.
Okay guys hear me out, I think I'm thinking ahead of me here but isn't the sigma 16mm 1.4 would be a 24mm 2.1 on an APS-C Sony and wouldn't the Sony 16mm 2.8 would be like a 24mm 4.2 lens, I'm a novice here but I've heard whenever we buy a lens the crop factor has to be multiplied to the aperture and focal length to know what it will be equal to full frame, am I right? If wrong, what am I missing?
More to do with the sensor in your camera. The 16mm will give you a much wider field of view, and give you separation between the foreground and background. But, the fact that you’ve asked this question means the ZV1 is the perfect camera for you. And I don’t mean that in a bad way.
I think the Biggest difference I noticed was the "flicker" that seemed to be present in the background after changing the lens. May not be a technical issue, but overall quality was much the same.
The Sigma looks yellower than the Sony does. But for talking head videos and when you're starting out, the Sony is slightly better (even with the small auto-focus issue @ 2:25).
My friend I have a question.. Does that Sony lens work with a a7Rii full-frame camera? or what lens do you recommend at a low price for my a7Rii among these 2 or is there another option?
Hi, can I check why is your background light flicking when the Sony 16mm lens is on? Is the lens hunting for focus (because the lens is not letting in enough light for the camera)? Thanks.
I love keeping the sony 16mm pancake in my every day carry bag. the sigma 16mm is awesome but it's just too heavy to carry every day. my main lens is the sony 35mm f1.8
FYI you link says Sony a6000 instead of A6600 in description. Only noticed it since i just picked up a A6000 for 300 and know its old lol. great video though I will definitely pick one of these up for my A6000.
I use the Sony 16mm on my camera and it looks great. I like how small it is. I can put it with a kit lens and my 50mm 1.4 in a sling pack and head out with a super light kit that gets great images and video.
I do prefer the warmer nicer colours of the Sigma a lot. I own several Sony lenses and cameras and can't stand the blueish look of native Sony glass... makes everything look sad and dark.
Thanks a lot for the video! I would like to know which lens should I get for one camera TH-cam Podcast interview? Like, two people sitting... Do you use 16mm f/2.8 wide angle?
Hey there ! I shot a video podcast today, with the Sony 6400 and the Sigma 1,4 16mm but I was disappointed, it had some noise and the focus was off, what could be the problem with the settings or just general ? The background is Dark grey is that maybe the Problem ? I was on PP7, hat the settings to 25p 50M - 1/50 - 2,8 - iso 500 Even after color grading and noise reduction it wasn’t so focused 😞 It’s so disappointing
Thank you for the great overview! Let me ask you a question. I bought Sony ZV-E10 camera, mainly for recording video lessons (yoga), in my studio that has rather low lighting. I need your advise about lens. Which one you can suggest me to buy? The point is that I’m not doing “talking head”, I’m working in a 3 to 7 meters distance with a low lightning. Is Sigma 16mm f1.4 is the optimal solution for me, or you can suggest something better? Thanks in advance for your help! 🙏🏻
I just picked up the 16-35mm gm lens but if I didn’t have the budget for it, I don’t see anything wrong with picking up the cheap lens just to achieve the wide look!
One of the best decisions I made was to invest in Sony GM glass. Owning a 16-35 GM makes the pancake a no brainer for me and my lite kit outdoor vlogging.
Same I bought the a6600 with the Sigma 30mm 1.4 and it is sharp so regret not getting the 16 instead. Seeing the side by side the Sony 2.8 seems like a good budget alternative.
@@CarthagoMike yes. It's great. I missed the OSS when shooting handheld. But When I use my camera on a gimbal, I'm truly satisfied with It's image quality and auto focus..
@@mr_red13 it's much better to compare with kit lens, sometimes auto focus get struggle, but not always, (sony doesn't like customers buying 3rd party products)😉...low light situations? It's really good... go ahead and buy it.. you won't regret...
Idt the Sony 16mm f2.8 is compatible with Sony's PDAF system. The Sigma is and it's blazing fast. That alone is worth it plus 1.4 aperture vs 2.8 is a big difference in terms of achieving bokeh and lowlight capability. Oh and the Sigma is weather sealed.
I love the Sony Pancake lens, for that reason... is a Pancake! Literally fits in my coat pocket even on my a7s! I've sold and repurchased this lens twice! Everytime I let it go, I miss it. Awesome comparison!
I want to be able to zoom! I make content for Permanent Makeup Artists and I need close-up shots. any suggestions!! cant find anything on here for this issue.
As a new beginner with a $300 like brand new Sony NEX 7 I wanted a better lens than the 18-55 mm kit lens that came with the NEX 7 I am not a photographer so when I take pictures I just use my iPhone 13 Pro I just want a better lens to use for video streaming plus the sigma is to bulky so I wanted to know if the Sony SEL16F28 16mm F2.8 lens will bring out better video than the Sony 18-55 mm kit lens?
Yeah, I do see a difference. And also, what would the difference be between your camera and the Sony vze10? If I am forking over money, maybe I should get something nicer than the e10. This shot looks good!
Question of the Day ⚡ Do you notice a difference between these two lenses? Let me know! ****** 🔴 🔴Check out the Sony 16mm 2.8 lens here ➡️ amzn.to/3qjTIg2 🔴🔴
What do you think of the Canon PowerShot SX70 HS compared to Canon M50?
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"You gotta just press record." I love hearing that every day.
The 3$00 bokeh difference.
Just bought a A6400 + Sigma 16mm for live streaming.
Great video 💯💯💯
Nex6 with the kit 16-50 and the 16mm great photos..
love this system.
Also have an RX100M1 & 3, some fantastic pics from those li'l guy as well.
The Sigma lens looked way better. However I also wish you'd have shown in the 16-50mm kit lens to compare as well.
The Sony is trying to focus on your practical light and having issues with it. It's quite distracting compared to the Sigma which is buttery smooth and isn't having issues with that background light.
I definitely notice a difference. The sigma has a sharper image and the color is more saturated.
indeed
the autofocus on the sony 16mm f2.8 is horrible, look at the light in the background 2:25 😵💩
I really appreciate your real world approach. Most reviews on the lens zoom in on pictures and talk about stuff I can barely see. Admittedly, I am not s professional photographer so that might be the key issue but I really appreciate the no nonsense practical application. Just bought one because of this review
I have a Canon M50 and I’ve been wanting that Sigma lens ever since y’all first showed it last year.
HUGE difference! Fist off the image is greener, grainier, more cropped in and not as clear. I would say go with the Sigma. :) Still, the Sony isn't bad. Just not as good.
100% agreed. The Sigma looks so buttery smooth and warm tones, the Sony lens doesn’t look as natural, but it’s a matter of cost. I think the Sigma is worth the money premium.
I'm still using the kit lens that came with the M50.
Thanks for the info!
The difference for these type of YT videos is not worth $300 imo. Thank you for videos like this.
I think the Sony 16mm is better for outside vlogging if you dont want alot of attention and the size. And the sigma 16mm is great for more indoor on a tripod.
A quick tip about the sigma 16mm lenses that you might not know because I didn’t know and there is almost nothing on the Inter. I just purchased this lense to used on a Sony ZV-E10 and unfortunately and be aware, this is a fix lense, meaning you cannot zoom in and out on the ZV-E10 and also you cannot use the digital zoom that comes with the camera because is not compatible unless you mess about with the function on the camera. That’s the only way that you can use the zoom in and out feature from the camera but not the lense.
Nobody talks about using the digital zoom thank you
@@urbangearman that’s why I’m talking about, because nobody talks about, cheers.
The clarity of the Sigma lens is noticeable, but the size of that smaller Sony lens is quite impressive for how good that looks. That might work well for our cockpit someday :) Thanks for this video!
Matt and Doc
Paradox Aviation
I have a Sony 16 mm 2.8, a Sony 20 mm 2.8, a Sony 50mm 1.8, and a Sony 18-55mm 3.5-5.6.
Essentially, I never used the zoom. And they all have been sitting in a drawer since I got my RX100m5
But I'd like to add an Astro prime and a tele prime, for my new 6600...
The only difference I've noticed was in lighting but for a started on doing videos seems like a good option
Thanks for showing some love to this lens! It's great for the price but most reviwers out there I think they test it all wrong. This thing only has 5 elements and was designed for vlogging/environmental portraits om the cheap. That means far/infinity focus is compromised and it probably has plenty of field distortion because of the simple build, so test shots of landscapes or architecture often make it look really bad. Not saying sony can't make ot better but it is definitely better than the kit lens at what it does best.
Is the Sigma a real improvement from the kit 16-50mm lens for the a6400 regarding video ? There is no stabilizazion what scares me a bit, but that background blur is craaaazy !
Absolutely! The sigma is sharper, faster and the bokeh is insane. It’s a must have on any Sony APSC.
@@jordanduncan1168 Thanks bro ! I ordered it! Can't wait to try it ! 🙂
I use the Sigma 16mm with the Sony a6400! It's a great combo, especially for TH-camrs👍
that's what I'm thinking of getting. I wanted the a7c, but I calculated $2,426 for the a7c with my preferred lens. Yikes that's a lot.
btw, do you feel your combo is good for low light videos indoors?
Sigma is legendary. F1.4 is absolutely amazing, even though on a regular basis, you can't vlog at F1.4. It's super overexposed and too sharp, the F1.4 would probably be best for studio work, live streaming, shooting in low light etc. Focus though, absolutely rubbish. Very heavy for vlogging.
Sony, I haven't tested it yet, it's in the mail but it seems to offer 85% of the sigma at much much less weight and most probably a better focus. In my case, the sigma would not balance on my small gimbal, but the sony would. So there you have it.
The e16 2.8 cant use hybrid af - notably the pdaf part - not to mention the outer edge is canon 50 1.4 gen 1 kind of bad.
2:31 whats wrong with the light behind? there is a weird movement! No for sony ! go for sigma !!!!
Do you need to turn up your studio lights with the Sony lens?
The reason I ordered the Sigma (still waiting for it) is that I thought I wouldn't need such bright lights when recording or streaming.
To me, it is worth to go for the sigma, since the image quality is better and sharper. imho If i went with the Sony, I would end up getting the sigma down the road..so better get the sigma right of the bat. Im very perfeccionist about lenses image quality, any type of unwanted blurr is a really deal breaker for me
There is a big difference, The fact is when you shooting in low light the Sigma 1.4 will work better and produced desirable footage as the F2.8 will not and you will have to use a noise reduction shortwave that will make your footage softer and that is a no when you have to do commercial work.. you will need more light. in fact, your background light is flickering. in the perfect condition where you control the light, this isn't a big deal. also, the sigma lens is sharper than the sony.
Honestly, was about to buy a sigma 1.4 as I have wanted for a while (real estate videos). Seeing as I’ve been doing well with my f/ 3.5 16mm in terms of light, 2.8 would already let a lot more light in - and as it’s so cheap I’m going to buy that first, and if I’m not happy I’m going to buy the sigma too
I’m using a Canon 70D and I have 6 lenses that I picked up on the cheap but looks great for a hobbies. Just because something is old doesn’t mean it’s obsolete.
I have the Sigma 30mm, but it zooms way too much in. I was thinking of buying the 16mm from Sigma, but the lens itself is so big! This video REALLY helped me! I was thinking "of course no one is gonna talk about using such expensive things as just a webcam, that's silly" - and here you are, showing exactly what I'm looking for! THANK YOU! I just ordered the Sony 16 mm!
I don't know where you can find the Sony lens that cheap, but in Canada, the cheapest for that Sony lens is $200 used. In my opinion, the $300 difference is worth it. Where it isn't worth it is the size of the lens. That Sony is way smaller. And I feel like if you're shooting 16mm at f/2.8, then you might as well just shoot with the kit lens at 3.5. It's prob even less noticeable than the difference between these 2 lenses. The Sigma also crushes the Sony in low light being a full 2 stops faster. That's the difference between shooting at ISO 12800 and ISO 3200.
You can get the kit lens 16-50 brand new for like 150 and its stabilized but it only goes to f3.5
Was sigma lens set at 1.4 aperture? You will notice a difference if you shoot in aperture priority mode, to get max bokeh
Hello!
I recently purchased the Sony zv e10 camera. It's my first camera ever (i want to use it for filming my youtube video's), so I am absolutely clueless about camera's.
When I start my camera, it doesn't film anything. It's very blurry and you can only see the colors changing, but I can't actually film with it. Is this because I didn't attach an extra lens to it? I thought I could use it without buying a lens.
Or maybe it's something in the settings? I feel like an idiot but if anyone knows please let me know.
This was super helpful. I just got my first camera Sony ev10. Now I know where to start for my starter lens.
The difference in color alone is vast. Bokeh was also pretty noticeable.
I have a Sony-made “Hasselblad” 16 on my a6000 (Hasselblad’s short-lived APS-C camera was really a Sony) and the Sigma lens on a MFT body.
My Sony “Hasselblad” lens cost $149 4 years ago. I used it for every day and street use for 3 years.
I bought my Sigma used for $200 - because of great reviews. Yes - it IS very heavy.
I like both pieces of glass!
the difference is SO tiny. there was a tiny bit more sharpness with the sigma, which I expected. I think for the use and the budget, I would go with the Sony and then when I am able to to, I would upgrade to the Sigma.
Thanks I’m buying the Sony EV 10 and the Sigma16 from your links. You earned it. 👊🏼
i think the only difference is that the sigma takes in more light from the backlights, and it is slightly warmer. But overall, not much of a difference in my opinion. For someone on a budget, the Sony lens does the job well
Agreed. If I don't win the gear kit this month (which is 99% likely), I'll start out my new setup with a ZV-E10 and the Sony 16mm... It seems decent enough and can still be used as a b-roll side-angle camera later on when upgrading to a more expensive setup.
Most of the differences in color can be adjusted with simple color corrections.
@@DatingDilemmaBreakdown I didn't really notice the colour difference to be honest. The first camera I thought of was the ZV E10 and the M3 gimbal.
That sigma 16mm isn't just good for videos, but photos. I have taken so many great photos from that Sigma. I never even sold it after I sold my aps-c a6300 I kept it once I went full frame.
Yea! And you can totally use crop mode on your full frame Sony!
@@ThinkMediaTV yea thats what I have to use it on.
depends on the situation youre recording in but the difference between 2.8 and 1.4 is 1.4 has a warmer background i feel.
great video, I own the Sigma 16 but not worth for me to get the Sony prime 16, because I already own the kit lens that came with my a6400. If F-stop isn't an issue then the kit lens is great, light, and still get the job done. Just my thoughts. If I didn't have the kit lens, then yes, I might invest in a Sony prime 16 but for vlogging or talking points on a tripod.
What is the best sony a6400 lens for youtube fitness videos. Fitness videos aren't shot close-up.
On a crop sensor like APS C, f1.4 isn't really that large an aperture. Its a full frame equivalent aperture is somewhere in the low 20s.
Also... Thanks! What's the difference in the "SEL 16F28" and the "SEL 20F28", besides the color on the outside?
One is a 16mm, the other is a 20mm. I have both. The 20mm is sharper.
@@DanPandrea ooooh. Duh. I should have caught that. They both came up when searching for "16mm sony lens". I should read more. Thanks!
Was really happy with my Sony 16mm until you mentioned Sharpness near the end... ugh. Guess I will be investing in a Sigma. Great comprehensive review!!
Love the stuff! What would be best lens for filming full body golf instruction videos.
I hate the way 12mm looks and 16 or 18 is right. I can knock out a couple more feet to help distance.
Any suggestions as I’m going in circles
Camera is Sony 6400
Id love to use this with zv-e1 does it work with that? Even if i have to crop in a little bit?
you can sharpen your live stream webcam on OBS as well. Right click the camera once attached, filters > sharpen . Probably stick to a 25-35% max.
the lower f-stop on the sigma lens is why the price tag is so high. also paired with the autofocus on the lens. If you go with the sony 16mm you'll be better off if you use manual focus and have decent lighting so you can keep your ISO low. You wont have as deep of a focus range, but it'll still look nice.
only difference i really see is softness in the pancake. but for film, i usually put a bunch of nodes on trying to make my stuff look soft, more film like.
so for that situation its probably no issue at all
So this video is two years old . What would you recommend getting now instead of the sigma 16 for better video and pictures quality ?
I'm using that Sony 16mm lens almost 6 years on my APSC sensor cameras. Lens are keep doing great job!
Unfortunately F2.8 isn't all that fast on an APS-C camera, like it would be on a full frame. You get less light and less bokeh. So the Sony 2.8 would be nice from weight perspective, and better than the kit lens, but it's not punching anywhere close to a 2.8 on a full frame.
I'm making this comment at the three minute mark. There is a definite difference in how it handles light. I don't know if this is in the lens construction or stop difference or the camera setup, but there is a difference in favor of the Sigma.
I just got the a6400. Planning on getting a rig set up for a TH-cam channel. I need all the tips.
Okay guys hear me out, I think I'm thinking ahead of me here but isn't the sigma 16mm 1.4 would be a 24mm 2.1 on an APS-C Sony and wouldn't the Sony 16mm 2.8 would be like a 24mm 4.2 lens, I'm a novice here but I've heard whenever we buy a lens the crop factor has to be multiplied to the aperture and focal length to know what it will be equal to full frame, am I right? If wrong, what am I missing?
Curious, in this comparison video, is the footage we're seeing the raw files or is there any color grading on them?
I just bought the sony zv1. What would be the difference between the small sony lense that costs 100 and the one attached to the zv1?
More to do with the sensor in your camera. The 16mm will give you a much wider field of view, and give you separation between the foreground and background. But, the fact that you’ve asked this question means the ZV1 is the perfect camera for you. And I don’t mean that in a bad way.
@@hughesy606 lol thanks.u right haha. Not a tech guy
I think the Biggest difference I noticed was the "flicker" that seemed to be present in the background after changing the lens. May not be a technical issue, but overall quality was much the same.
The Sigma looks yellower than the Sony does. But for talking head videos and when you're starting out, the Sony is slightly better (even with the small auto-focus issue @ 2:25).
Thank you.
I bought the objective today. delivery Monday 👌
My friend I have a question..
Does that Sony lens work with a a7Rii full-frame camera?
or what lens do you recommend at a low price for my a7Rii among these 2 or is there another option?
It does work, but as it is made for a crop sensor (E mount, full frame is FE) it will leave a circle in the full frame...
I do really like the size difference and see it as a bonus to a small package; especially for vlogging.
Hi, can I check why is your background light flicking when the Sony 16mm lens is on? Is the lens hunting for focus (because the lens is not letting in enough light for the camera)? Thanks.
Morning cup of coffee + Think Media = a great start to the day!
Cheers!
I love keeping the sony 16mm pancake in my every day carry bag. the sigma 16mm is awesome but it's just too heavy to carry every day. my main lens is the sony 35mm f1.8
FYI you link says Sony a6000 instead of A6600 in description. Only noticed it since i just picked up a A6000 for 300 and know its old lol. great video though I will definitely pick one of these up for my A6000.
I use the Sony 16mm on my camera and it looks great. I like how small it is. I can put it with a kit lens and my 50mm 1.4 in a sling pack and head out with a super light kit that gets great images and video.
The Sony lens is $300+ in Canada...I think I'm willing to spend the extra $180-200 for the Sigma.
I do prefer the warmer nicer colours of the Sigma a lot. I own several Sony lenses and cameras and can't stand the blueish look of native Sony glass... makes everything look sad and dark.
Next question is how much of a difference there is between the Sony 16mm f2.8 and the kit-lens at 16mm 3.5.
The F stops for one, also the 16mm is a prime, no zoom
3.5 has less bokeh
both are god awful lenses
I run my Sigma at 1.6, I like the blurred background and all I use it for is a webcam... it hasn't left the tripod since the day I mounted it.
Exactly what I've been searching for in the last hour. Luckily I found this video! Thanks mate, most likely I'm gonna get one 😉👍🏻
Sony also makes a fish eye lens and an ultra wide that clip on to the 16 lens. Been using it for years!
They work well on the 20 mm pancake as well :-)
So yiu are saying thr 4k video crop can be eliminated with thr sony lens? Please suggest
Thanks a lot for the video! I would like to know which lens should I get for one camera TH-cam Podcast interview? Like, two people sitting... Do you use 16mm f/2.8 wide angle?
The wide angle shots on our podcasts are shot with the Sigma 16mm 1.4!
I was thinking of getting an additional lens for my Canon M50, preferably for a wider view. What do you guys recommend?
I know I am not Think Media, but if you are looking for a wide lens, get the 11-22mm, they talk about it in other videos.
10-18 mm
@@criabhijeet Thanks so much!
Hey there ! I shot a video podcast today, with the Sony 6400 and the Sigma 1,4 16mm but I was disappointed, it had some noise and the focus was off, what could be the problem with the settings or just general ? The background is Dark grey is that maybe the Problem ?
I was on PP7, hat the settings to 25p 50M - 1/50 - 2,8 - iso 500
Even after color grading and noise reduction it wasn’t so focused 😞
It’s so disappointing
With an f2.8 can you still turn on bokeh mode on the vze10? Or will it really not give you anything?
Subbed. This channel is awesome. Always great advise and insight. Love it 🤙🏻
Thank you for the great overview!
Let me ask you a question. I bought Sony ZV-E10 camera, mainly for recording video lessons (yoga), in my studio that has rather low lighting.
I need your advise about lens. Which one you can suggest me to buy? The point is that I’m not doing “talking head”, I’m working in a 3 to 7 meters distance with a low lightning. Is Sigma 16mm f1.4 is the optimal solution for me, or you can suggest something better? Thanks in advance for your help! 🙏🏻
Is there a Lena’s similar to the sigma that would fit on a canon Rebel T4i???
It has the Ef/EF-S mount that apparently doesn’t fit the sigma 🫠
It would be interesting to see a comparison between these lenses and an iMac webcam lense and an iPhone camera.
Hi Omar! Do I need any sort of mount adaptor for a Sony A7S Body?
No. Both these lenses will be natively compatible. They are all E mount as is the A7S.
Keep in mind that both lenses are E mount, meaning they are made for crop sensor and will leave a circle if used with a full frame camera...
Do you think that sony one is better to shoot videos at home than neewer 35mm f1.7 ?
Would it work for full frame?
I just picked up the 16-35mm gm lens but if I didn’t have the budget for it, I don’t see anything wrong with picking up the cheap lens just to achieve the wide look!
One of the best decisions I made was to invest in Sony GM glass. Owning a 16-35 GM makes the pancake a no brainer for me and my lite kit outdoor vlogging.
Dang reading my mind, I was just thinking about which one would be worth the buy for my A6600.
Same I bought the a6600 with the Sigma 30mm 1.4 and it is sharp so regret not getting the 16 instead. Seeing the side by side the Sony 2.8 seems like a good budget alternative.
Already own sigma 16mm ...
I'm happy with that..
It is a great lens.
@@CarthagoMike yes. It's great. I missed the OSS when shooting handheld. But When I use my camera on a gimbal, I'm truly satisfied with It's image quality and auto focus..
Is it really that good for low light videos indoors? I'm thinking of getting it as well!
@@mr_red13 it's much better to compare with kit lens, sometimes auto focus get struggle, but not always, (sony doesn't like customers buying 3rd party products)😉...low light situations? It's really good... go ahead and buy it.. you won't regret...
Hey, will I be able to achieve background blur if I am just 5 feet away from the wall in background?
The Sony is actually brighter at 2.8 and focusing is quicker
It’s a shame on a professional esthetic rig-geeks would be offended
Idt the Sony 16mm f2.8 is compatible with Sony's PDAF system. The Sigma is and it's blazing fast. That alone is worth it plus 1.4 aperture vs 2.8 is a big difference in terms of achieving bokeh and lowlight capability. Oh and the Sigma is weather sealed.
There’s an ultra wide adapter for that sony 16 F2.8 that makes it a 12mm F2.8 and that’s perfect for Vlogs.
What’s the adapter name
@@jhenukumar Sony VCLECU2. Sony has some odd names but if u go to Amazon and type in Sony ultra wide converter it should come right up.
Where did you get those shelves behind you? Very nice!
I love the Sony Pancake lens, for that reason... is a Pancake! Literally fits in my coat pocket even on my a7s!
I've sold and repurchased this lens twice! Everytime I let it go, I miss it.
Awesome comparison!
It's not a lens, it's a body cap! :)
i have the same lens but on sony a73 it looks like F-- the image is too dark and bad how can i fix it
I want to be able to zoom! I make content for Permanent Makeup Artists and I need close-up shots. any suggestions!! cant find anything on here for this issue.
As a new beginner with a $300 like brand new Sony NEX 7 I wanted a better lens than the 18-55 mm kit lens that came with the NEX 7 I am not a photographer so when I take pictures I just use my iPhone 13 Pro I just want a better lens to use for video streaming plus the sigma is to bulky so I wanted to know if the Sony SEL16F28 16mm F2.8 lens will bring out better video than the Sony 18-55 mm kit lens?
Yeah, I do see a difference. And also, what would the difference be between your camera and the Sony vze10? If I am forking over money, maybe I should get something nicer than the e10. This shot looks good!
Would you recommend the Sony zv e10 for real estate vlogging and property tours?