The last few minutes were insightful, I always wondered why some like Vivek Ramaswamy went for a JD at Yale and then founded a biotech company, but honestly I get it now because knowing the law can literally serve you in any industry.
Subscribed! You have high quality videos that are teaching me exactly what I need to know. I plan to apply to law school in two years. Excited for what content you have planned.
This is why I am seriously reconsidering law school even though I have a chance to get straight into the corporate law pipeline from a prestigious school. Really not looking forward to corporate firm culture.
@@apollyon4761 as someone who has a career in IT and is looking into getting into law school, you're always going to have to spend time 'in the trenches'. it's part of growing. its not fun but its a great motivator to continuously improve yourself.
That is absolutely the norm for JD's, and has been for a very long time. I am sure your law school professor appreciates your tuition dollars, Mercedes aren't cheap!
@@skylerfall5886 Oversupply of law school grads. There are 11 law schools in the state of Florida, 10 in Pennsylvania, 8 in Virginia, and so on. There should be only one law school in each of those states. I don't have all that much sympathy for jobless JD's, if you are dumb enough to go to law school in a state with 8-11 schools, you should already understand that the job market is massively oversaturated. When a job for a lawyer does open up, it is common for over 100 people to apply for it within days. People shoud understand this stuff BEFORE deciding to attend law school, so they don't end up deeply in debt and unemployed afterwards.
Dang where do you live? If you’re not attached you could always move to a smaller town. Might not be exactly what you’re wanting but you’d at least have a stable job. Hope you have a breakthrough
Thanks for sharing this information. Its good to think about employment while in considering or even in law school. I have heard of one licensed lawyer living out of his car. Its tough out there but there are also some PhDs living in tough situations.
I think you have to either start on the low end of government-side prosecutors' offices or do public defense. I don't think being an older graduate would have an adverse impact on job prospects either
I highly recommend checking out lower-tiered schools with phenomenal clinical programs. That way you’re much more likely to get a scholarship and/or financial aid, and you’ll be ready to practice right out of law school. I go to the University of Baltimore. We’re ranked 5th in the nation for clinical education, and I can guarantee that because of that alone, I’m much more prepared to practice than a majority of my University of Maryland counterparts. All of that being said, I do recognize the caveat that this is purely what worked for me/was my experience, and may not be right for a lot of aspiring students
Contact me when you're done with law school. I need someone to re-shingle my roof. Oh, and definitely focus on government loan forgiveness programs, 'cause you're not paying your student loans back. You should probably also see how much you can earn driving for Uber, it will be another helpful resource for you post-graduation.
Yea I’m basically not going to law school unless I get a scholarship. This is gonna be a second career for me and I think if I can leverage connections and get into a lower tiered program with good clinics I’ll be good-Suffolk and northeastern in my area
@@shadesonsurfer People who leave their career to go to law school often end up crawling back to their old job afterwards. Low tiered law schools don't produce many successful lawyers. . .
@@criminallaw9573 sounds accurate, i'm gonna try it out without going into debt and see what happens, much better than going to a higher ranked school with debt
This is very different than my country. You go to the law faculty right after High school with no requirements other than HS diploma with a license degree you can pass exams for other smalllaw careers or go into teaching in elementary-HS system ( most graduates go down that path) and other public basic gov positions. When it comes to the law school masters degree the fun hunger games begin 😅 the rich graduates go to the notary exam and the poor ones go to lawyers exam.
That's how it should be. Except the USA has this funny thing where they take your money, make you study a bunch of things you don't need to be a lawyer and after 7 years and $150,000 or more in debt, you are technically still not a lawyer
Look, if you are considering Law School, there are some great job opportunities post graduation. You can probably land a temporary position doing Document Review work for as much as $22.00 per hour! Imagine your lifestyle with all that cash! And don't worry about competing for work, there only 11 Law Schools in Florida, and only 10 in Pennsylvania, 8 in Virginia and half-a-dozen law schools in tiny DC! This is common, far too many law schools in one state. So if all you have to compete with for work is 10-11 entire graduating classes of JD's every 12 months, it will be EASY for you to find work! SMH. . .there really are wealthy, powerful people involved in Law Schools. . .they are called Deans and Professors. Law school made sense for me, in a state with only two law schools an a population about 6 millions people, back in the early 90's, but it almost certainly doesn't make sense for anyone reading this today. But, if you want to drop, say, $180,000 in 3y of tuition, well, Law School professors like luxury cars, and those aren't cheap. They will happily take your money. . .
@@KP-uc1ez Going to law school in the US in 2024 is a profoundly bad idea. The job market is very oversaturated and has been for the 20Y or so. There really are licensed attorneys working for $22.00 per hour doing Temporary Document Review jobs, that's not conjecture, it is a fact. I have a successful solo practice, and I run into unemployed, and severely underemployed, lawyer all the time.
@@imonjenkem If you want a degree that will guarantee you a good, well-paying job, study Nursing, or Accounting, or get a Commercial Driver's License, or become a pilot--there are all kinds of work areas where employers are desperate for employees, and yet, idiotically, people study Law, when we have had far, far too many lawyers, and not nearly enough jobs for them, for decades. I run a successful solo law practice, and I run into unemployed and severely under-employed lawyers all the freaking time.
@@imonjenkem There are lots of degrees that bring in work. Law School isn't one of them. Try Nursing, or Accounting, or getting a Commercial Driver's License, those are all fields with lots of high paying jobs. Lawyers work for $22.00 per hour doing "Temporary Document Review Projects" with their worthless JD's.
Judges are not permitted to make a decision on a case according to their own personal beliefs and opinions that is contrary to the material facts of the case, and is contrary to the elements of the laws that governs the issues. And judges are not permitted to instruct their clerks to do otherwise that is not supported by law, but it would meet the requirements of judicial misconduct. They can’t read a case, and go against the material facts and the elements of the laws that governs the issues. Judges decisions must always be appropriate and ethnical and not unethical . No disrespect.
I am not a lawyer, but I would recommend it. For many years, I was a supervisor in a major court system. Almost 10 years ago, I hired a first-year law student in my department. When he graduated law school a few years later and passed the bar, he already had experience in a specialty, and he was subsequently hired on in the court as a staff attorney. He subsequently benefited from an administration change and wound up in a top administrative position there making six figures.
Some guy on reddit said he graduated from a top law school and is only making 68k a year as a bankruptcy lawyer in Flordia, 3 yes after graduation. Is this common?
Whatever you do don't go anywhere sticker. My friend at Columbia law struck out of OCI and he had median grades. The poor guy has 300k in debt with no way of paying it off. He turned down multiple scholarships thinking that Columbia would pay off. I turned down NYU but had a scholarship to a bottom school in the T-14 then went straight in-house. Definitely less pay than biglaw but love my WLB.
@@543cooljonThat’s a bummer, though I don’t think you should strike out at CLS at median the school has a pretty high biglaw rate. Maybe he bid unrealistically or had some other issue in his interviews?
Very insightful, I'm applying to law school for the 2025 cycle and this is really good to know for when I graduate.
Me tooooo what country you in ?!
Did you get in?
I failed 3 times, i lost money to reviews that never helped but the major thing is that I've not lost hope
Passing the LSAT is when you study hard,if you can't study or you don't have time for your studies I'd advise you get yourself help like Mr Thomas
I had interest in working with him but I was discouraged by my friends out of ignorance 😔
The last few minutes were insightful, I always wondered why some like Vivek Ramaswamy went for a JD at Yale and then founded a biotech company, but honestly I get it now because knowing the law can literally serve you in any industry.
I quit law during my Fulbright scholarship @ UC Berkeley and spent the whole year travelling and surfing in California. The best decision of my life.
So dope
Hell yeah, dude
Dang. goals. Been wanting to surf and I live in L.A.
burger king is always hiring
W
walmart and Amazon as well😊
Subscribed! You have high quality videos that are teaching me exactly what I need to know. I plan to apply to law school in two years. Excited for what content you have planned.
This is why I am seriously reconsidering law school even though I have a chance to get straight into the corporate law pipeline from a prestigious school. Really not looking forward to corporate firm culture.
gotta make money
@@wave1016 Yeah, i've noticed. Ive been considering the public policy/thinktank route too
@@apollyon4761 as someone who has a career in IT and is looking into getting into law school, you're always going to have to spend time 'in the trenches'. it's part of growing. its not fun but its a great motivator to continuously improve yourself.
More content like this!! Thanks!
I graduated from law school Dec 2015.. still can’t find a job. Never had a permanent job in the last decade.
That is absolutely the norm for JD's, and has been for a very long time. I am sure your law school professor appreciates your tuition dollars, Mercedes aren't cheap!
Damn. Any ideas why?
@@skylerfall5886 Oversupply of law school grads. There are 11 law schools in the state of Florida, 10 in Pennsylvania, 8 in Virginia, and so on. There should be only one law school in each of those states. I don't have all that much sympathy for jobless JD's, if you are dumb enough to go to law school in a state with 8-11 schools, you should already understand that the job market is massively oversaturated. When a job for a lawyer does open up, it is common for over 100 people to apply for it within days. People shoud understand this stuff BEFORE deciding to attend law school, so they don't end up deeply in debt and unemployed afterwards.
Dang where do you live? If you’re not attached you could always move to a smaller town. Might not be exactly what you’re wanting but you’d at least have a stable job. Hope you have a breakthrough
Dang. Have you tried government positions? State or federal? There's all kinds of positions. Even FBI.
Thanks for sharing this information. Its good to think about employment while in considering or even in law school. I have heard of one licensed lawyer living out of his car. Its tough out there but there are also some PhDs living in tough situations.
How do you break into criminal defense? what if you're an older graduate
I think you have to either start on the low end of government-side prosecutors' offices or do public defense. I don't think being an older graduate would have an adverse impact on job prospects either
@@julianinlaw thank you for the response and your time.
A video about law school that was actually actionable, rare W
great video!! I am currently studying for the LSAT.
ur sooo charming being a lawyer
I highly recommend checking out lower-tiered schools with phenomenal clinical programs. That way you’re much more likely to get a scholarship and/or financial aid, and you’ll be ready to practice right out of law school. I go to the University of Baltimore. We’re ranked 5th in the nation for clinical education, and I can guarantee that because of that alone, I’m much more prepared to practice than a majority of my University of Maryland counterparts. All of that being said, I do recognize the caveat that this is purely what worked for me/was my experience, and may not be right for a lot of aspiring students
Contact me when you're done with law school. I need someone to re-shingle my roof. Oh, and definitely focus on government loan forgiveness programs, 'cause you're not paying your student loans back. You should probably also see how much you can earn driving for Uber, it will be another helpful resource for you post-graduation.
Yea I’m basically not going to law school unless I get a scholarship. This is gonna be a second career for me and I think if I can leverage connections and get into a lower tiered program with good clinics I’ll be good-Suffolk and northeastern in my area
@@shadesonsurfer People who leave their career to go to law school often end up crawling back to their old job afterwards. Low tiered law schools don't produce many successful lawyers. . .
@@criminallaw9573 sounds accurate, i'm gonna try it out without going into debt and see what happens, much better than going to a higher ranked school with debt
I thoroughly enjoyed this video. Thank you for breaking down each occupation.
Great video!
oh my god 20 seconds on and you're so right 😂😂😂
This is very different than my country. You go to the law faculty right after High school with no requirements other than HS diploma with a license degree you can pass exams for other smalllaw careers or go into teaching in elementary-HS system ( most graduates go down that path) and other public basic gov positions. When it comes to the law school masters degree the fun hunger games begin 😅 the rich graduates go to the notary exam and the poor ones go to lawyers exam.
That's how it should be. Except the USA has this funny thing where they take your money, make you study a bunch of things you don't need to be a lawyer and after 7 years and $150,000 or more in debt, you are technically still not a lawyer
Everything
Do question on your video
So....what about those of us who are recent law grads who have not yet sat for the bar?? I've never had such a difficult time find a job!!!
I've thought about getting a jd to be an entrepreneur.
Look, if you are considering Law School, there are some great job opportunities post graduation. You can probably land a temporary position doing Document Review work for as much as $22.00 per hour! Imagine your lifestyle with all that cash! And don't worry about competing for work, there only 11 Law Schools in Florida, and only 10 in Pennsylvania, 8 in Virginia and half-a-dozen law schools in tiny DC! This is common, far too many law schools in one state. So if all you have to compete with for work is 10-11 entire graduating classes of JD's every 12 months, it will be EASY for you to find work! SMH. . .there really are wealthy, powerful people involved in Law Schools. . .they are called Deans and Professors. Law school made sense for me, in a state with only two law schools an a population about 6 millions people, back in the early 90's, but it almost certainly doesn't make sense for anyone reading this today. But, if you want to drop, say, $180,000 in 3y of tuition, well, Law School professors like luxury cars, and those aren't cheap. They will happily take your money. . .
I was ready to object at "all that cash!" until I registered the sarcasm
@@KP-uc1ez Going to law school in the US in 2024 is a profoundly bad idea. The job market is very oversaturated and has been for the 20Y or so. There really are licensed attorneys working for $22.00 per hour doing Temporary Document Review jobs, that's not conjecture, it is a fact. I have a successful solo practice, and I run into unemployed, and severely underemployed, lawyer all the time.
so confused as to where i should apply then, if the population is higher and everyone is raving for the degrees that bring in work
@@imonjenkem If you want a degree that will guarantee you a good, well-paying job, study Nursing, or Accounting, or get a Commercial Driver's License, or become a pilot--there are all kinds of work areas where employers are desperate for employees, and yet, idiotically, people study Law, when we have had far, far too many lawyers, and not nearly enough jobs for them, for decades. I run a successful solo law practice, and I run into unemployed and severely under-employed lawyers all the freaking time.
@@imonjenkem There are lots of degrees that bring in work. Law School isn't one of them. Try Nursing, or Accounting, or getting a Commercial Driver's License, those are all fields with lots of high paying jobs. Lawyers work for $22.00 per hour doing "Temporary Document Review Projects" with their worthless JD's.
You’re a beast man
Frehsman in college , still worth it to go to law school after? Iv been hearing mixed things would love your take.
Judges are not permitted to make a decision on a case according to their own personal beliefs and opinions that is contrary to the material facts of the case, and is contrary to the elements of the laws that governs the issues. And judges are not permitted to instruct their clerks to do otherwise that is not supported by law, but it would meet the requirements of judicial misconduct. They can’t read a case, and go against the material facts and the elements of the laws that governs the issues. Judges decisions must always be appropriate and ethnical and not unethical . No disrespect.
Looking back would you recommend working through law school?
I am not a lawyer, but I would recommend it. For many years, I was a supervisor in a major court system. Almost 10 years ago, I hired a first-year law student in my department. When he graduated law school a few years later and passed the bar, he already had experience in a specialty, and he was subsequently hired on in the court as a staff attorney. He subsequently benefited from an administration change and wound up in a top administrative position there making six figures.
What movie clip is in the background?
Some guy on reddit said he graduated from a top law school and is only making 68k a year as a bankruptcy lawyer in Flordia, 3 yes after graduation. Is this common?
No, most law school grads don't do that well post graduation. I hope he can afford to pay off his student loans on a salary like that. . .
Depends what he means by top school. The median 1st year salary at the top 14 law schools are all around ~200k annually.
This might really be unusual but I plan on going to law school to join law enforcement
To do what in law enforcement? Law school ain’t cheat just want to make sure you don’t get unnecessary debt.
Yeah If you’re not 100% all in for law school. Don’t do it. Don’t get into unnecessary debt bro
If youre mean for federal law enforcement go for it. You can work for fbi, cia, erc. This has crossed my mind as well.
Random question: is there really a significant difference between NYU Law and Columbia law in terms of job prospects after graduation?
I don't think so. They are pretty identical. Columbia just has sliiiightly more "clout"
@@julianinlawWould that be for Federal Clerkships and PI groups?
Whatever you do don't go anywhere sticker. My friend at Columbia law struck out of OCI and he had median grades. The poor guy has 300k in debt with no way of paying it off. He turned down multiple scholarships thinking that Columbia would pay off.
I turned down NYU but had a scholarship to a bottom school in the T-14 then went straight in-house. Definitely less pay than biglaw but love my WLB.
i am very lucky/blessed that my parents can pay for the tuition, but thanks for the advice@@543cooljon
@@543cooljonThat’s a bummer, though I don’t think you should strike out at CLS at median the school has a pretty high biglaw rate. Maybe he bid unrealistically or had some other issue in his interviews?
Is Oxford a good law firm?
Anyone know that Tom Cruise movie?
The Firm
New
International students can become a big law partners
On TV shows and in movies they sure can! SMH. . .
Uii
Why do all attorneys have dead eyes.
Because the profession can kill the humanity in you.
Hey Julian. Nice content. Dropped you an email.
i dont wanna work at a law firm, i wanna be a prosecutor