Imagine a series called "the kenways" and its an alternative universe where they all were aboard a ship searching for artifacts to keep both the assassin's and templars from getting
I don't think that Edward gets enough credit, the most feared pirate is afraid of him, he can clear the deck of any ship by himself, he has lungs of a sea lion, his navel power is top tier and he formulated plans that crippled both the templars and assassins, but put the assassins back together, and became master of the brotherhood in England where he most probably financed everything
edward doesn't have lungs of a sea lion its just a natural part of humans to hold their breath longer in deeper depths of water but i can see your point
the actors of the latest Avatar film had to train 3 months so that each of them can remain underwater for around 5 mins at least. The main actress even remained under for over 8 mins. Not trying to discredit Edward, but it is a skill that anyone can learn with training, not an inborne talent
@@Handleneeds3ormorecharacters64 I have scuba training and can confirm this to be totally incorrect. The pressure of the water actually gives you less air the further down you go.
Haytham is my choice, even letting Connor kill him led to Connor becoming even more distraught leading to him questioning himself and his choices, Haytham knew what he was doing and still educated his son after death.
Not sure why everyone thinks Haytham let Connor kill him. Haytham displayed his malicious intent throughout the game, and he didn't have any regard or empathy towards his son in the slightest (since they never developed a genuine bond). They only worked together because it assisted Haytham in his goal.
Haytham forced Connor into a position where Connor had no choice but to kill him to survive. Based on Haytham’s journal (the canon novel Assassin’s Creed: Forsaken), Haytham deliberately did this because he could not bring himself to kill Connor but knew that one of them had to kill the other. He willed the journal Connor so that Connor would understand his own journey through life regardless of what either of them felt about the other. After reading the journal, Connor added his own entry where he apologized to Haytham. If you go into the Davenport Manor’s basement after Haytham’s death, Connor has written “sakataterihwáhten” beneath Haytham’s portrait, which translates to “I made a mistake.”
@@johnsonwithat2322 it’s because of the book adaptation of the game where the writer decided to write Haytham in a completely different way then he’s presented in the game. It’s honestly pretty bullshit.
Haytham = Smart and strong intelligent templar Connor = Angry Sad Depressed but most strong and badass assassin Edward = smart but stupid greedy pirate Edit : thanks for all the likes!! Btw alot of people are saying edward is pretty smart which he is but he also does alot of dumb stuff but overall he is pretty intelligent thats why i said smart and stupid he always was smart but blinded by greed he did not care about anything else other than gold in the most of story which makes him do dumb stuff
@@Gamerboy-fm5mt Edward isn’t stupid in any way, he knew very well the impact of every choice he made, he just didn’t care, and by the end he isn’t greedy any more so…
I realize these three can also translate almost perfectly to Nero, Dante, and Vergil from Devil May Cry. Connor = Nero Haytham = Vergil Edward = Dante.
I honestly don’t understand how someone could have Haytham as the deadliest. What aspect about him makes you see how he could be ranked first? To me, there wasn’t anything special about him like Edward and Connor had (Edward was destroying high level Templars and assassins with no training whatsoever, and Connor had a ton of animalistic power and instinct that can’t really be taught). Haytham was like any ordinary man who just had a lot of training, and that’s about all he has going for him. I actually put him third in my ranking because of the reasons I listed above. I’ve got Edward first and Connor second.
@@STSGuitar16 Haytham is rather relentless and would win in a one-on-one duel, but Edward has raw skill and Connor has unpredictability. Edward is also capable of equipping himself with other armors including Mayan plate armor which would probably be hard for swords to get through. Given Edward easily defeated an assassin while he had little more than a sword, I think he'd defeat Haytham or Connor quite soundly. Haytham may have formal training and Connor might have brute streetfighting skills, but Edward is more than capable of keeping up with both of those. Also, Edward has an entire frigate to his name which readily defeats man 'o wars
@@iforgor8271 When you put her beside a frigate, the Jackdaw is similar in size. She also tends to dwarf the Brigs you see in AC4. Maybe she's just a really big brig, but she's definitely too big to be classified as a brig
Like you said, Edward was bodying folks without ever even having training. Imagine how powerful he became after he joined the brotherhood. I think I give it to Edward honestly.
I agree, we never got to see Edward in his prime, he was able to wipe out the Templar order in the West Indies as well as kill multiple assassins, including a master assassin, without any training. Seeing as he eventually became a master assassin and co-mentor of the British assassins, I can only imagine how powerful he became once he properly trained under the assassins and unlocked his full potential.
@@shaneellis1056 Yeah, I mean i understand Connor’s animalistic strength being a big kicker towards him being very powerful and deadly, but Haytham never did anything at all that made me see him as the most powerful kenway. He was just highly trained, but there was nothing special about him imo. I guess if the question was which Kenway had the most/best training then it’d definitely be Haytham, but in terms of most powerful or deadliest I would honestly put him last. Like I said, Connor had that raw power that eventually got more refined, and the fact that he was raised in a native tribe gives him a much bigger edge over Haytham imo. Strong animalistic warrior instinct can’t be trained into someone and Connor just had it, so I’d put him over Haytham and second to Edward. Idk, I just see Haytham as being a normal man who just had a lot of training with nothing really special about him. That may be an unpopular opinion here, but I believe it’s true. My ranking is: 1. Edward 2. Connor 3. Haytham And out of all the AC main characters, Edward is probably the one who I’d want to see have a sequel the most. Imagine how cool it would be seeing master assassin Edward running around Europe.
@@winawina1043 Nah Haytham Left His Tribe Family so he can hang out with his Templar friend, which Connor only Growth with achilles as his father figure
It's important to note that Connor was hit by a cannon ball and left weakend before his fight with Haytham. He's so hurt, he literally drags himself to the scene of the fight, where Haytham meets him in perfect health. And contrary to popular belief, Haytham didn't let connor win. He got caught up with his speech (as he usually does) trying to prove his own version of the greater good to Connor, and got more and more heated and cocky as he was strangling him. Connor just waited for an opportunity to strike when Haytham's guard was down. Haytham was arrogant. Even Edward Braddock told him that arrogance would eventually be the end of him. The game does a good job of displaying it's characters and their development. NO DOUBT Haytam is more skilled than Connor. He has way more experience. Even Achilles says so. But it's Haytham's arrogance that kills him in the end. And it's cool character development as he's way more arrogant towards the end than before Connor is born. You can see it when he orders Connor around, not explaining to him why he needs to do certain things. He simply say "Because I said so" and has this expression on his face where he clearly doesn't understand why he's even being questioned. Haytham is brilliantly written. He is skilled and deadly, but arrogant. He makes good points and actually started to see the world for what it truly is. But he got blindend by this newfound knowledge and now kind of overrates himself as someone who knows everything there is while he's completely lacking in the "human element". Connor is the polar opposite of this. Childish naivity, idealism, and a kind heart(which often times is his downfall). He lacks some serious insight into the world which cant be said of Haytham. One thing they BOTH have in common though is that they have an unshakeable determination to fight for what they believe to be true. To the end. Templars and Assassins. Perfectly represented.
I disagree. Haytham had literally saved Connor from execution by throwing a knife to severe the rope. Achilles's men tried, but they couldn't fully severe the rope. It was Haytham who did so. Haytham even wrote in his journal what seemed like the words of a man who knew he was about to die. Besides, he's smart. He's not the type of person to release an Assassin's hand like that, especially when he himself uses the hidden blade. Most of the AC community has also accepted the book "Forsaken" as part of the story, and that book reinforces the fact Haytham left Connor win. In the end, Haytham died fighting for the Templars like a true Templar should, and he died to let his son win like a true father would.
Edward is clearly underrated; remember when he was fighting El Tiburón? When he realized that he was at a disadvantage in close combat, he quickly drew four pistols from his holster and shot him dead. The fact that Edward is a good rapid-fire shooter is not just a game-system effect; he really is a good shooter as a setup. This means that if he were to fight Haytham or Connor, he could pull out his gun and shoot to kill if he were at a disadvantage💀
this is a copypaste of my previous comment IMO Edward has 4 reasons he'd win in his iguana leather holsters ;-) Cold and ruthless with immense swordsmanship and combat training? GUN Angy + Magic powers? GUN Can take a hit? GUN Can take a shot or evade it be it via speed or meat shields? Then advise use of mor GUN 🤣
Absolutely Connor not only the deadliest kenway but the deadliest assassin. He trained from his childhood unlike others. He learnt climbing trees, mountains, he learnt hunting, fought various wild animals, learnt those survival skills when he was just a child. And not to mention he is strong as hell
If we're talking assassins, literally all of them are little bitches when compared to Ezio. And Connor almost lost to a Haytham who was like 60 years old.
What many people don’t realize is that Edward might be the most talented and naturally gifted of all protagonists of the franchise, yes, even more than Altaïr, why? Because he without any special training or education became one of the deadliest people in the planet, when black flag was released they even said that he could beat Altaïr(this was because his natural skill and equipment, Altaïr was still a better warrior) imagine what he could’ve done with Ezio’s or Connor’s training…
Edward was naturally talented and like you said took out trained assassins and templars without any training he also took out ships like nothing if he got trained he would be unstoppable so yea definitely give me Edward I don’t think hathen beats Edward in a 1v1 tbh
Tbh Edward running pirate armada on his own is pretty deadly. I don't think Haytham could project such power while on his own, though you could disagree
Isn't the fact Haytham was a master Templar with command over others proof of his ability to lead. He's been a leader of men since 19 and was assigned the duties of bringing the America's to order.
Deadliest goes to Edward all day. I only say this because of game mechanics mostly. None of the other two can you hop on a ship and shoot like 10 pistols back to back in rapid succession clearing the entire deck. When I played as the other two, I didn’t feel nearly as strong as Edward
Haytham is the only one who realised his full potential. I think Edward and Connor were just as talented, but they were never trained or received the same privileged education as he did. So it's clear Haytham was the most dangerous. But by virtue of killing the most folks, Edward automatically takes the crown of "deadliest." I think the order is Haytham, Connor, Edward in terms of who was ultimately more skilled, though.
A family reunion where they didnt try to kill each other would be interesting. Course now that Connor killed Lee i think Haytham and Connor would get along well. Also if they did bring salt you know Edward would likely side with Connor in a argument. Cant blame Connor for wanting Lee dead though given in his mind he did kill his mom. Edward would be busting out the good rum and making all 3 of them sit down for a drink. Who knows enough rum both Connor and Haytham would blurt out they love each other. I think both Connor and Haytham are the type that only way get father son love is if they are both drunk lol.
Edward will always be my favourite AC protagonist and I think if trained like other assassins he would have been the most powerful (plus he uses two swords, earning him extra style points)
Edward randomly killing a highly dangerous assassin and then claims money from templars in his place without even knowing the two sides. Fucking man was a legend early in the game.
Connor killed his father and would wreck Edward. Lol I'm sorry but Edward is the most overrated protagonist. He's just a ripoff of Jax from SOA thrown into a pirate setting. And ppl give him more undeserved points cause they like to sail a ship. Which is also why AC4 is overrated. Not a bad game. But I wouldn't put it in the top 5 for AC games.
Number one I fully agree that haytham is the Darth Vader of assassin's Creed number two do you think we could get this kind of video again with 3 other assassin's .
@@wajajan697 yeah no doubt about that Haytham didn't even try to destroy Connor's hidden blade before he started chocking him but in that fight Connor was already hurt but was still able to counter his father's attacks and it took another cannon ball to knock Connor down
Why fight head-on?When Haytham took his back, Connor begged for his life. Haytham is good at sneaking up on people and has good stealth skills. If he had wanted to kill Connor, he would have done so long ago. He is certainly a swordsman full of himself, but he also had a gun in his hand. However, he did not use it for surprise until the very end
I think haythem is probably the best pick. Connor is very versatile in his skill set but not as honed as Edward or haythem. And Edward being able to take on trained assassins with two years experience as a pirate definitely scores him big points but he also isn’t as skilled as haythem is. It’s sad that all their stories weren’t really expanded on but honestly I hope we get another game with Connor where he discovers more of his grandfather (because that would simply be awesome) and maybe that would lead to him expanding on the work edward has already done. I think it would be cool as long as it wasn’t a copy and paste rpg like the last 3 games have been.
I think Conner is the deadliest Kenway. Conner destroyed the Templars in Colonial America almost all by his lonesome. Killed most of the Templars himself. Even killed Haytham (even if Haytham may or may not of let Conner win) when he had been repeatedly thrown around and into walls when a cannon destroyed the surrounding area he was standing in. Then he also chased down Charles Lee in his final confrontation with the Templars after he had run through a burning boat and stabbed in the stomach. Leaving a full hole in his stomach. Conner may not be the smartest and the most naive. But for what he lacks in smarts, he makes up for skill, strength, and determination. He is a goddamn tank when it comes to any other assassin.
@@abdulisbatman1779 but wasn't Connor at a disadvantage because he was already injured by the Cannonball. Shouldn't that even it out. Connor may have had the edge meaning Haytham wouldn't even have the chance to let him win.
@@theinsurance2450 Conor himself was at a physical disadvantage yes, but Haytham didn’t want to kill Connor or betray the Templars, so he let Connor kill him.
Haytham is no different than Altaïr, he is a cold blooded killer that make his mission prevail, would it be the creed of the assassin's or the rules of the templars. Remember how Altaïr was clearing any loose end after his interrogations ? This is exactly because assassins started to bring morality into their sacred missions that many fled their rank to become templars or pursue more neutral goals. As Haytham said, Assassin's used to fight for peace, not vague concept such as freedom.
I actually agree with this. I think Edward would lose to both Haythem and Connor in close combat but would put up one hell of a fight. But I do think he'd easily win if Ships were involved. He was already an experienced helmsman before the start of AC Black Flag, whereas Haythem, I don't think, had much, if not any experience commanding a ship as in both AC 3 and AC Rogue others are commanding the ship. Connor has experience but not to the degree that Edward does. I'd also like to say that I think Edward could perhaps win in close combat if it were onboard a ship with his experience on boardings and would use the ship as an advantage. But I do think if Haythem either was Connor's father and was just some random Templar, he'd easily take down Connor.
Unfortunately, the Aquila is a superior ship than the Jackdaw. The Aquila has more advanced technology, has more cannons, faster and durability than the Jackdaw. The Aquila has several types of shots the Jackdaw does not possess. The jackdaw only has back exploding barrels and front chain shot, while the Aquila only has side cannons. But what quantity the Aquila lacks makes up for quality. The aquila has side chain shot cannons which allows for the disabling of ship sails more readily than the Jackdaw which is only the front cannon. Bearing in mind, with the Aquila, you can actually one shot a Man o War. The Aquila also has heat shot much like the Jackdaw. The aquila also has grapeshot which disables the opposing ship's cannon fire, which the Jackdaw does not possess. Not to mention, Connor is much more experienced than you think. During the time in AC3, he would frequently venture with the Aquila from 1769 - 1781-3. That's about 12-14 years of experience there. During Edward's time with sailing around AC4, he actually has less experience from comparing his time at the end of the game to his life as a privateer (around 11-12 years) of experience. However, during his time in Black flag, Edward has actually ventured more than Connor has, so I would agree that Edward would have more experience. The Jackdaw has went through legendary Man O wars such as El impoluto as well. If the Jackdaw and Aquila battle it out, Edward would have to trick Connor so he can get a few good hits in. Otherwise, the Aquila with its superior technology would blast it into oblivion.
@@k0ana889 while the logic here makes some sense I think we are forgetting the fact a certain someone owns a fleet as for and quote "During the time in AC3, he would frequently venture with the Aquila from 1769 - 1781-3. That's about 12-14 years of experience there." how often was it compared to Edward? how often was he on that ship in comparison? Edward was traveling island to island, fort to fort. from what I know Connor used the ship for transportation and combat skirmishes far less despite having a longer time over all spent over years in which he sailed but the longer time does not entirely mean he has actively participating all the time or as often to total time spent. we know the time period in which he sailed but not his total time sailing to count for total experience, with some logical reasoning it can be argued that Edward has had and been at helm more time spend total over a shorter period of time. also aren't we forgetting the fact the jackdaw has mortars which out range the Aquila, a ram which use may vary and the fact the broadside guns train on target and over waves if angled while Aquila has all cannons fire straight which if we are talking a man o' war's broadside in clam seas, yes that would all hit and do big dmg but the jackdaw is both smaller and still maneuverable facing straight towards or away mean less shots land. no ship at the time had top deck armor (ignore the jackdaws topdeck armor) a mortar coming from above is perfect for punching into a ship, hitting the mast and sails is a bonus Pirate tactics were to out sail their opponents and with fire barrels and mortars the jackdaw can do dmg the Aquila out of their range and worst case for Edwards delay the Aquila not to mention the Aquila would not be faster as it is both bigger and as you said more durable and armed which = Slow (think of that tank design triangle and having to balance out speed, armor and firepower) to get any movement with a bigger ship that is both armored and heavily armed you need the right size sails to catch more wind the bigger the ship is in order to move the ship's weight and the less weight on board especially say by weapons and armor the faster the ship can sail with fair winds. a wooden ship in 17xx would not be practically able to have a wooden ship be fast enough as a brig or schooner while being big enough to accommodate the extra armaments, armor, crew, ammo and resources, light enough while having strong armor which ties in with it's speeds which also is impeded by the weight of the armaments. Also where did get the info Aquila is faster? it's a frigate with 60 cannons The Jackdaw is a stolen brigantine, due to it's 46 gun armament if in IRL would be classified as a frigate by the standard classification of the Royal Navy. in essence tho it classifies more as a modified brig due to being smaller than a frigate shape and size wise resembling a brigantine more so and if we take the 2 ships fully armed the jackdaw is indeed faster than the Aquila thanks to it's size. plus if we take the effectiveness of the crews like whoever is on the jackdaw that has the math skills to aim the mortars in a lead in front of a moving target while calculating angle and elevation + distance while correcting for the fact that waves would be throwing off calculations along with the ship they are on is moving. (in short whoever is on the jackdaw working the mortars is doing all the maths and working with every variable against them). The Aquila is superior in terms of armor and fire power thanks to the number of cannons + those armaments having access to flexible ammo The Jackdaw is superior in versatility, utility, speed and range.
@@Nelson-fg1xz Did you read what I wrote here? I said although Connor has had the Aquila for longer I said in the next sentence "However, during his time in Black flag, Edward has actually ventured more than Connor has, so I would agree that Edward would have more experience". I literally said that Edward uses the Jackdaw more, hence having more experience, despite Connor sailing for a longer period, Edward was consistently doing so during Black flag. Please read it again. I did actually forget about the Mortars, it glossed over my mind, but yeah, the range of the mortars would be pretty devastating. But the context of which I was talking about the Aquila vs Jackdaw, was merely based off the Aquila's firepower + superior technology + durability in an all out clash. Many ships in AC4 tanked mortar shots from the Jackdaw. It won't be surprising if Connor just went straight for the Jackdaw and fired chain shots to disable the ship flags. If we're looking at possibilities for winning, the Aquila would almost certainly win in most scenarios. Considering the fact that you brought the mortar argument, if the Jackdaw manages to maintain its distance from the Aquila, the Jackdaw would have a shot at winning. The Aquila itself has dealt with smaller and faster ships than Jackdaw, I so no reason why the Aquila would miss most of its shots. To me that just sounds exactly like plot armor. But, yes I do agree that the Jackdaw is more maneuverable due to its smaller size. Connor is a very good captain after all. Just because we don't see him much in main missions doing ship missions, his side missions demonstrate that he's excellent as his job. Yeah, I based off the Aquila's speeds due to statements from Faulkner "ghost of the north seas" and etc... Though, it should be obvious that the Jackdaw is faster, due to its size mainly. To be honest, we don't know who's faster, Man o Wars such as El impoluto was massively faster than the Jackdaw. So, realistically, size shouldn't be a determining factor. But, logically, the Jackdaw should be faster. In versatility, and utility the Aquila is much more superior than the Jackdaw. Like I stated above, the Aquila has many shots that can disable the Jackdaw, by shooting down its masses and grape shot to disable its crew. It's more adapted to situations than the Jackdaw. It literally one shot a Man O war. Its superior technology is something to not be messed with.
@@k0ana889 counter point, the man o war in ac3 is less of a threat than in ac4 as it lacks mortars followed by the fact that a frigate can be disabled/crippled by 4-5 mortar shots. the man o war in ac3 vs the ones in black flag are indeed differently equipped. the aquila would be slower to turn and avoid ac4 mortars along with the fact as a frigate it is an easier target to hit and land more hits on. an ac4 man o war even the weakest variant can predict and lead it's mortar shots and has range even greater than the jackdaws mortars. the jackdaw has always faced foes bigger and smaller than it along with a wide Varity, can the aquila say the same? (and not yes but one at a time after years, I mean often and frequently with them being in numbers) in ac4 man o wars come in 4 varients, level 36. level 49, level 60 bounty hunter ships and level 75 legendary ships. Something tells me that the man o war the aquila can one shot are either level 36 or level 49. another draw back to the aquila is the time to fire, the jackdaw can fire immediately and does not necessarily need to take as much time to aim followed by the fact it's reload is superior = higher dps. a bunch of cannons trained onto a big target vs a big target with alot of guns trained onto a smaller target with the hp of a level 60 Man o war. smaller and faster means less shots land. and if it comes to a ram from either front or back then it can slow the aquila via it's chain shot then do one heck of a combo, also how consistly can you 1 shot a man o war? The jackdaw has proven to very do consistent dmg even vs frigates while utilizing its speed and manuvability to out maneuver, avoid and reduce incoming fire. Mortar, chain, ram, heavy shot, fire barrel then swivels, may seem like a lot but all that can be done in a short time and quite frankly not many ships outside legendary can tank a combo like that alone, even level 60 man o wars will be hurting by the end. chain shots slow even ship turning at least in ac4 which can also prevent the aquila from both escaping and turning guns. how I dealt with man o wars like hms prince and la dama negra legendary ships was chain shot the rear, ram, half sail broadside then turn back to chain shot and repeat, staying behind them even if they could still fire back, I was doing more dmg to them then what was dealt to me, this works with frigates as well but harder with smaller faster ships swivels on the aquila take more time to fire and can't fire as fast as the jackdaws. good range tho grape shot works by killing the crew, the dmg is little and you have a better chance at using round shot to out dps ur foe than pepper them. if we ignore the irl logic like bracing to avoid crew losses which would delay firing but not the loaded shot and the fact grape shot from a frigate to a man o war would not stop the broadside guns nearly as effectively and focus purely on game function as it just resets the reload then yes delaying gun fire would effective... the problem is the jackdaw reloads and readies shot very fast. if we did the math on dps if both ships are side by side and static, the aquila could reset every other reload from the jackdaw, doing little dmg to the jackdaw while the jackdaw can fire round shot in return assuming we ignore heavy shots. the unique ammos for the aquila are nice but it is folly to rely on them in this comparason. do tell me, does the aquila have chase cannons? or rear facing cannons? fire barrels or burning oil? last I checked no, it is also is affected by wind more in both a helpful and hindering sense, as wind can help it one shot a man o war with the ram or do negligible dmg where as the jackdaw can ram with or against the wind just as effectively esspecailly with the charge ram ability but thats assuming we are taking game mechanics wise. wind can give it good speed or slow it down. jackdaw can use it's momentum better and won't get blown over and be forced into half sail unless it's a water spout if we were being realistic, a frigate's ram would be slow and avoidable to the jackdaw but would hurt if enough speed is there to back it up also in thanks to the mass and wind. the jack daw is a reasonble size to have a ram and the manuverbailty and speed to use it more effectively. also can I say the ships in ac3 lack any amount of metal armor? (aside from aquila and jackdaw) the jack daw has dealt with more foes that can out maneuver them, over power them, out range them, out gunned, out numbered them with varying varieties, out tank them and benefit way more from a trade of blows more so then the aquila has ever faced. (not saying the aquila has never been out numbered and out gunned but the disparity between the to ships and the degree they have faced in vast) the aquila has iron hull upgrade yes but not top deck and mast upgrade even if we assume it does somehow contribute I'd say the shots for mortars alone is 5-7 and thats assuming it is a equal to or better armor than the max level bounty hunter frigate in ac4. and note the amount if mortars the jackdaw has is enough to sink it 4-5 times depending if we allow the iron hull armor to count and add to the top deck and mast protection. idk bout the aquila but when the jackdaw gets a hull upgrade top deck and mast also get armor. even if the jackdaw charges straight towards the aquila, most guns will miss as all guns on the ship aim straight where as the jackdaw can shoot chain shot and ram. also if we are talking game mechanics then the aquila would need more lead on the chain shot as it is slow and short ranged and the jackdaw would have nealy all the time in the world to brace lest you fire from point blank but at that point the jack daw can just fire everything at ya. and continuing on with game mechanics the brace option benifits the jackdaw more so than the aquila, as the jack daw need only watch for burst dmg while the aquila will be facing more sustained dmg (in burst but still but more frequently) and if we want to be realistic about it the jackdaw can still out dps the aquila in sustaining it's fire as it has more resource to do so
@@Nelson-fg1xz Sorry, that isn't a counter point at all. Your argument is primarily based off gameplay wise, when AC3 was heavy driven on Boston / New York, while AC4 was primarily driven in the seas. I do see where you're coming from, but saying this doesn't equate to that. For example, you called the Aquila slow. It was never stated to be slow. It was called Ghost of the North seas for a reason. And by statements from characters, it was classified to be the fastest in the entire Atlantic ocean in its time. You can't base that the rocky gameplay of AC3 was a definitive reason to call the Aquila slow. Same with AC3 and AC4 where the "Lack of mortars" meant that AC3 mortars are less deadly, therefore Jackdaw is better due to having "harder ship battles". You fail to consider the time frame from AC3 - AC4. Ship technology from the 1720s compared to the 1780s have improved significantly. The Aquila has seen its fair share of bigger ships as well. Just because the gameplay in AC4 make ship battles its golden focus, doesn't make it a feat against the Aquila at all. "in ac4 man o wars come in 4 variants, level 36. level 49, level 60 bounty hunter ships and level 75 legendary ships. Something tells me that the man o war the aquila can one shot are either level 36 or level 49." I'm sorry this is such a stretch that it isn't even a point at all. You don't know what the Aquila can do or not. It can probably one shot level 36 - 49 man o wars, but where is the proof to say that? The thing is, the Jackdaw can't even one shot any Man O wars in Black flag regardless of level. The point I was making with the "one shotting" was that the versatility and vast weaponry from the Aquila can disable the Man O war without sinking it completely. Grape shot, chain shot (which is actually more effective than AC4's black flag due to one side being able to chain shot directly at a ship's sails and effectively tearing them down). Chain shot in AC4 is only at the 4 chaser cannons and temporarily stall a hostile ship. The reloading issue doesn't necessarily mean less DPS on side cannons, considering the fact that the Aquila has 60 broadside cannons, compared to the Jackdaw's 46 cannons. There is no evidence to suggest either. Considering the time frame, the Aquila's broadside cannons should be much more powerful than the Jackdaw due to this. Being made in a more advanced time line. Though for some reason, in your next few points, you did state that the DPS can be reconfigured and the Aquila could The Aquila has done this to many smaller ships, so what makes the Jackdaw so unique that would somehow dodge shots from the Aquila? The Aquila has sunken other schooners and other brigs. The size difference doesn't mean everything, considering the fact that the Aquila itself defies that. You know, being the Ghost of the north seas and the fastest in the Atlantic? You misunderstand how Grape shot works. Its small size allows for it to peer through corners of inside a ship, killing crewmates. It doesn't necessarily attack the top crew. Hence why it's called grape shot. Yes, I did acknowledge the lack of chaser or rear cannons the Aquila has, compared to the Jackdaw. But the point is, that the Jackdaw only uses them to stall enemy ships. It's not a primary method to sink ships, it only assists it. You can't keep comparing the Aquila to an average Frigate, much like if I were to compare the Jackdaw to an average brig. It's just a bad faith deconstruction of the Aquila, when it's stated and confirmed to be much more than just an average frigate. It's very fast for a frigate, it's power packed and can square up to a Man O war and can take on multiple ships, much like the Jackdaw itself. It is a fast and very maneuverable frigate. You can literally upgrade its wheel ingame for more stability and better maneuverability. No the Aquila has plenty of armor. It's an upgradable feature ingame. Please look at it. Saying that it doesn't is also a bad faith deconstruction, considering the fact that it tanked many shots from powerful ships such as Man O wars, which should be much more powerful than ones from AC4. Saying a lack of mortars doesn't mean that it's suddenly weaker, you're trying to scale the ships evenly, when in reality, the ships in AC3 should be stronger due to the timeline. Though range does play a huge factor. "the aquila has iron hull upgrade yes but not top deck and mast upgrade even if we assume it does somehow contribute I'd say the shots for mortars alone is 5-7 and thats assuming it is a equal to or better armor than the max level bounty hunter frigate in ac4. and note the amount if mortars the jackdaw has is enough to sink it 4-5 times depending if we allow the iron hull armor to count and add to the top deck and mast protection. idk bout the aquila but when the jackdaw gets a hull upgrade top deck and mast also get armor." This argument isn't valid because 1. You're assuming that the Aquila cannot tank mortar shots, 2. You're assuming that the Aquila's durability is equivalent to 5-7 mortar shots and 3rd, there is no evidence to suggest that it's comparable to a "Max level bounty hunter frigate in ac4". The only valid argument comes at the top deck mast upgrade. Yes, the Aquila doesn't have top deck and mast upgrade, but that doesn't necessarily mean the Aquila would be less tanky to Mortar shots. Even in AC4, the Jackdaw doesn't have top deck and mast upgrades too. It stayed relatively the same throughout the game, but it still tanks mortar shots fine. So, why would the Aquila be any different? If you're considering the technology advancements, the Aquila would be more tanky in a logical setting. "even if the jackdaw charges straight towards the aquila, most guns will miss as all guns on the ship aim straight where as the jackdaw can shoot chain shot and ram." Again, that's not how chain shot works. It doesn't do much damage, it only slows down the ship, and considering it's 4 chaser cannons, it wouldn't do much at all. Yes, and the Aquila has also extremely strong rams. When the Man O war in the battle of Chesapeake disabled the Aquila's cannons, Connor rammed the Aquila into a fully functioning Man O war and completely disabled it. Also, the Jackdaw doesn't get any top deck or mast armor when you upgrade its hull armor. That is a complete lie. The image literally describes the side part of the Jackdaw. Not cool. It only gives armor to the sides of the Jackdaw. By gameplay mechanics, the Aquila also has a brace option which also reduces incoming damage just like the Jackdaw. That isn't a point at all. From a closer range, the Aquila would absolutely destroy the Jackdaw. In a longer range, the Jackdaw may have a shot, if it manages to keep its distance from the Aquila, it can win. And it's very hypocritical to say that the Jackdaw has more resources than the Aquila, when the Jackdaw has a limited amount of ammo on its mortar, heat shot etc... The Aquila doesn't have a limit. So gameplay mechanics should never be the primary focus when having an argument for your sake.
This franchise could have been amazing if the RPG trilogy wasn't made and instead had more stories with assassin turned Templars and vise versa. Really dig deep into the lore and tenants of both creeds. Edit: Origins can stay but the other two losers can take a hike
Connor is the deadliest LIKE HE SURVIVED BEING SHOT BY A CANNON 2 TIMES AND HE PULLED OUT A WOODEN STICK THAT WENT THROUGH HIM IN THE STOMACH AND HE DIDNT HAVE GREAT ARMOUR THAT TIME, Thats just my opinion
Edward, but hear me out, his pure power combined with his in game utilities and abilities, combined with his wits, make him the most well rounded one on this list, Connor sure could take him in a snap, but that is only applied for base Edward, if Edward was to be at prime armor, utilities and weapons, he could be as or more powerful than Connor and Haytham combined.
Nah I reckon Edward wins because tbh he’s actually the smartest he has the best weapons and actually kenway taught Haytham so Edward is better by a long shot know he has a bunch of stuff just cause sometimes he’s drunk he actually mostly never drunk like he makes Connor and Haytham look like dust Connor is strong fast and yet somewhat dumb but there we have Haytham he’s smart honest fast strong but kenway oh he’s the best he’s fast strong fast rich kind and a leader
When you said who the winner was... I couldn't.... I just couldn't! 😆😂🤣🤣🤣🤣 I love this video! I love this murderous family a little too much! 😁 As for who I think the deadliest Kenway is..... Desmond! He is a distant Kenway, Auditore, and Ibn-LaʼAhad. He may not have gotten a chance to see Edword's memories, but he got to meet Haytham and Connor's skills.... No? ... ... ... Okay, Connor wins!
Obviously they’re all incredibly skilled and deadly, that’s out of question. But to me, in terms of raw deadliness both mentally and phisically, I’d go with Haytham. The guy is so terrifying when he speaks but also on how brutal he is while fighting or even after, while planning some scheme. But of course, I love them all the same❤
Haytham: I have a sword and a hidden blade. Connor: I have a tomahawk and a bow. Edward: (gun ports open) I have a full broadside with a seemingly endless amount of powder and shot.
As for me, i would choose Edward, cause only in the mein story he sinked tens of ships, with im shure over multiple thousend people on them, but i really do understand, why you chose Haythem. He`s the menacing death himself
It would have to be haythem for me. Even if his fighting ability were below par, you said it. He's just a cold blooded killer through n through. Both Edward and Connor could only truly be feared by evil people. Haythem however should be feared by everyone.
A little late to the party, but i agree that haytham wins with what we see in game. But i do have to say that after AC3, with a few more years under his belt, i think connor would hulk smash both of them. Connor is a naive child in the game but its implied at the end that he gains some much needed wisdom. I would have loved to see him later in life, like maybe an older connor in the war of 1812. Have the templars try to reestablish control and having an absolute unit in connor pushing back. Just a thought though
I’ve got a question for you experienced Assassin’s Creed players Would you rather take AC3 Remastered? Or both AC Syndicate and AC Unity? I’ve got a choice and I don’t know what to pick
Hi master assassin! I would love to see video ,,who's the kindest templar" (it would be interesting because templars are not known for being kind) Thanks for reading
Haytham felt more like the palpitane to be honest. Shay was more of a Vader/ Anakin. I mean if you think about it he betrayed everybody he knew killed the love of his life (hope) And after he lost hope you could really see that there was no redemption for shay while shay was in the right betraying the assassins..... He became a brutalized killer and killed other Innocent people people after.. Killing Arno's father
Haytham never beat Connor in a fight. I am gonna debunk all arguments here "Haytham didnt want to kill Connor" Yeah true.And Connor didnt even want to fight,at all.He just wanted LEE!!! In deleted dialogue Connor says they should stop fighting but Haytham doesnt want to stop. Connor only went for the kill at the last second. The whole point is that Achilles trained Connor solely to beat Haytham. Achilles personally fought Haytham in his prime who wanted to kill Achilles had Shay not stopped him. Achilles knows EXACTLY Haythams ability. Connor was so weakened couldnt even stand BEFORE Haytham started sucker punching him. In the novel Connor confirms that Haytham WAS NOT HOLDING BACK(you can still go all out even though you dont want to murder someone)while Connor WAS. It was still even.
Bru the assassins in the thumbnails nowadays are so cute 🗿
I need them as plushies
He changed the thumbnail for unity
LET'S MAKE A PETITION FOR
ASSASSIN'S CREED FUMO
I just wanna hug little plushie Connor and tell him everything is gonna be alr
I would love a plushie too 😂
Strongest = Connor
Smartest = Haytham
Funny = Edward
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Honestly, Edward is not only da funni, but da smartest
@@swissball99 I don't think many people realize how smart Edward is. He may not be as smart as haytham but he's quite intelligent
@@ajax3748 I'd say he is smarter than Haytham. Edward trained Haytham to be the best assassin he could be. Edward was smarter than he let on.
Edward got himself caught up in a conflict between the Templars and the assassins and he played both sides so Edward is definitely smartest
Imagine a series called "the kenways" and its an alternative universe where they all were aboard a ship searching for artifacts to keep both the assassin's and templars from getting
Instant revival of the franchise imo
Man Ubisoft needs to see this comment...they really need to make something like this...
You… you might've just done something
" Give me Lee " is the most iconic line of Kenway trilogy
I don't think that Edward gets enough credit, the most feared pirate is afraid of him, he can clear the deck of any ship by himself, he has lungs of a sea lion, his navel power is top tier and he formulated plans that crippled both the templars and assassins, but put the assassins back together, and became master of the brotherhood in England where he most probably financed everything
edward doesn't have lungs of a sea lion its just a natural part of humans to hold their breath longer in deeper depths of water but i can see your point
@@Handleneeds3ormorecharacters64 go and do that then
He doesn't have Connor's brute strength or Haytham's training and education. They're all equally talented.
the actors of the latest Avatar film had to train 3 months so that each of them can remain underwater for around 5 mins at least. The main actress even remained under for over 8 mins. Not trying to discredit Edward, but it is a skill that anyone can learn with training, not an inborne talent
@@Handleneeds3ormorecharacters64 I have scuba training and can confirm this to be totally incorrect. The pressure of the water actually gives you less air the further down you go.
Haytham is my choice, even letting Connor kill him led to Connor becoming even more distraught leading to him questioning himself and his choices, Haytham knew what he was doing and still educated his son after death.
Haytham was pretty intent on killing Connor. Also Connor seemed pretty set in his convictions by the end of the game.
Not sure why everyone thinks Haytham let Connor kill him. Haytham displayed his malicious intent throughout the game, and he didn't have any regard or empathy towards his son in the slightest (since they never developed a genuine bond).
They only worked together because it assisted Haytham in his goal.
Haytham forced Connor into a position where Connor had no choice but to kill him to survive. Based on Haytham’s journal (the canon novel Assassin’s Creed: Forsaken), Haytham deliberately did this because he could not bring himself to kill Connor but knew that one of them had to kill the other. He willed the journal Connor so that Connor would understand his own journey through life regardless of what either of them felt about the other.
After reading the journal, Connor added his own entry where he apologized to Haytham. If you go into the Davenport Manor’s basement after Haytham’s death, Connor has written “sakataterihwáhten” beneath Haytham’s portrait, which translates to “I made a mistake.”
@@johnsonwithat2322 it’s because of the book adaptation of the game where the writer decided to write Haytham in a completely different way then he’s presented in the game. It’s honestly pretty bullshit.
@@nandoman4769 Yeah its bullshit and steps away from the original canon which depicted him as nefarious.
Haytham = Smart and strong intelligent templar
Connor = Angry Sad Depressed but most strong and badass assassin
Edward = smart but stupid greedy pirate
Edit : thanks for all the likes!!
Btw alot of people are saying edward is pretty smart which he is but he also does alot of dumb stuff but overall he is pretty intelligent thats why i said smart and stupid he always was smart but blinded by greed he did not care about anything else other than gold in the most of story which makes him do dumb stuff
how do you say smart and stupid in the same sentence?
"Smart but stupid"
Thats how he is idk how to describe him
@@Gamerboy-fm5mt Edward isn’t stupid in any way, he knew very well the impact of every choice he made, he just didn’t care, and by the end he isn’t greedy any more so…
Smart but stupid 👁👄👁
I realize these three can also translate almost perfectly to Nero, Dante, and Vergil from Devil May Cry.
Connor = Nero
Haytham = Vergil
Edward = Dante.
Nice, based
Oh like the game where Vergil' hires Virgil's brother and Virgil's son to stop Virgil so Virgil can become Virgil. Ft. Virgil😁
@@rhinoxsaurus3560 You forgot the Virgil DLC where Vergil is in the place of Vergil's son, brother and half of Vergil, and his DT is another Vergil
What the hell is Devil May Cry
Yes perfectly balanced as all things should be
Personally I believe Connor is the deadliest Kenway. But I could see how you gave it to Haytham
Edward taking over entire military forts and sinking warships several times the size of his own:
I honestly don’t understand how someone could have Haytham as the deadliest. What aspect about him makes you see how he could be ranked first? To me, there wasn’t anything special about him like Edward and Connor had (Edward was destroying high level Templars and assassins with no training whatsoever, and Connor had a ton of animalistic power and instinct that can’t really be taught). Haytham was like any ordinary man who just had a lot of training, and that’s about all he has going for him. I actually put him third in my ranking because of the reasons I listed above. I’ve got Edward first and Connor second.
@@STSGuitar16 Haytham is rather relentless and would win in a one-on-one duel, but Edward has raw skill and Connor has unpredictability. Edward is also capable of equipping himself with other armors including Mayan plate armor which would probably be hard for swords to get through. Given Edward easily defeated an assassin while he had little more than a sword, I think he'd defeat Haytham or Connor quite soundly. Haytham may have formal training and Connor might have brute streetfighting skills, but Edward is more than capable of keeping up with both of those.
Also, Edward has an entire frigate to his name which readily defeats man 'o wars
@@dootless3819 I thought the jackdaw was a brig tho
@@iforgor8271 When you put her beside a frigate, the Jackdaw is similar in size. She also tends to dwarf the Brigs you see in AC4. Maybe she's just a really big brig, but she's definitely too big to be classified as a brig
Like you said, Edward was bodying folks without ever even having training. Imagine how powerful he became after he joined the brotherhood. I think I give it to Edward honestly.
I agree, we never got to see Edward in his prime, he was able to wipe out the Templar order in the West Indies as well as kill multiple assassins, including a master assassin, without any training. Seeing as he eventually became a master assassin and co-mentor of the British assassins, I can only imagine how powerful he became once he properly trained under the assassins and unlocked his full potential.
@@shaneellis1056 Yeah, I mean i understand Connor’s animalistic strength being a big kicker towards him being very powerful and deadly, but Haytham never did anything at all that made me see him as the most powerful kenway. He was just highly trained, but there was nothing special about him imo. I guess if the question was which Kenway had the most/best training then it’d definitely be Haytham, but in terms of most powerful or deadliest I would honestly put him last. Like I said, Connor had that raw power that eventually got more refined, and the fact that he was raised in a native tribe gives him a much bigger edge over Haytham imo. Strong animalistic warrior instinct can’t be trained into someone and Connor just had it, so I’d put him over Haytham and second to Edward. Idk, I just see Haytham as being a normal man who just had a lot of training with nothing really special about him. That may be an unpopular opinion here, but I believe it’s true.
My ranking is:
1. Edward
2. Connor
3. Haytham
And out of all the AC main characters, Edward is probably the one who I’d want to see have a sequel the most. Imagine how cool it would be seeing master assassin Edward running around Europe.
Nah man , if u look deep into Edward he doesn't kill people who doesn't have coming to them
@@manishchinnaa.a7834 I don’t think that makes any difference in the argument here?
@@STSGuitar16 talking abt the motives of killing here , i suppose
Haytham: Brains
Connor: Brawn
Edward: A Bit of both….. so the kid got the brains and the grandkid got the brawn…..
no the grandkid got the brains and the great grandkid got the brawl
@@terrysimmslll8233 great grandkid?
Edwards son is Haytham and Haythams son is Connor
Haytham: “Connor, you’re grounded.”
Edward: “No, Haytham, it’s you who’s grounded.”
Connor: “Can we please be a functional family?”
I autually imagined it in edwards voice
Uncle adawale: your son knows no patience kenway
No no Connor be like: GIVE ME LEE!
and then 7:33 happens
I like how your channel goes more and more into memes than a serious analysis. Keep it that way!
Stfu and give me Lee!
@@akulax5201 Poor connor he become obssesed and depressed and only thing he can say now is GIVE ME LEE!!
*young conner beating up young arno*
Hayhtem: Son that is not how you make friends!
Edward: KICK THAT FRENCHIES ASS!
Soo thats the reason why haytham doent come with Shay at the end of asasin creed roug
@@winawina1043 Nah Haytham Left His Tribe Family so he can hang out with his Templar friend, which Connor only Growth with achilles as his father figure
Edward is in one of the best ac ever and Edward definitly had a lot of growth in ac black flag, going from pirate to assassin, and true hero
Haytham is so underrated. I’m glad you’re letting haytham get the love he deserves.
Oh by the way,
gIvE mE lEe!!!
HI WAKY EDITS IM SUBED TO YOU
In AC Rogue, Haytham actually showed mercy when he spared Achilles, the man who would later train his son.
The one time he shows mercy it's the worst/wrong person
It's important to note that Connor was hit by a cannon ball and left weakend before his fight with Haytham. He's so hurt, he literally drags himself to the scene of the fight, where Haytham meets him in perfect health. And contrary to popular belief, Haytham didn't let connor win. He got caught up with his speech (as he usually does) trying to prove his own version of the greater good to Connor, and got more and more heated and cocky as he was strangling him. Connor just waited for an opportunity to strike when Haytham's guard was down. Haytham was arrogant. Even Edward Braddock told him that arrogance would eventually be the end of him.
The game does a good job of displaying it's characters and their development. NO DOUBT Haytam is more skilled than Connor. He has way more experience. Even Achilles says so. But it's Haytham's arrogance that kills him in the end. And it's cool character development as he's way more arrogant towards the end than before Connor is born. You can see it when he orders Connor around, not explaining to him why he needs to do certain things. He simply say "Because I said so" and has this expression on his face where he clearly doesn't understand why he's even being questioned. Haytham is brilliantly written. He is skilled and deadly, but arrogant. He makes good points and actually started to see the world for what it truly is. But he got blindend by this newfound knowledge and now kind of overrates himself as someone who knows everything there is while he's completely lacking in the "human element". Connor is the polar opposite of this. Childish naivity, idealism, and a kind heart(which often times is his downfall). He lacks some serious insight into the world which cant be said of Haytham. One thing they BOTH have in common though is that they have an unshakeable determination to fight for what they believe to be true. To the end. Templars and Assassins. Perfectly represented.
I disagree. Haytham had literally saved Connor from execution by throwing a knife to severe the rope. Achilles's men tried, but they couldn't fully severe the rope. It was Haytham who did so. Haytham even wrote in his journal what seemed like the words of a man who knew he was about to die. Besides, he's smart. He's not the type of person to release an Assassin's hand like that, especially when he himself uses the hidden blade. Most of the AC community has also accepted the book "Forsaken" as part of the story, and that book reinforces the fact Haytham left Connor win. In the end, Haytham died fighting for the Templars like a true Templar should, and he died to let his son win like a true father would.
That "Give me lee!!" Never gets old 🤣
The kenway saga is definitely my favorite in the series
“Give me Lee!”
“Shut your fucking gob!”
XD
Each Kenway described by a spongebob meme:
Edward: SPONGEBOY ME BOB
Haytham: Karatae
Connor: *CHOCOLAAAAAAATE*
Edward is clearly underrated; remember when he was fighting El Tiburón? When he realized that he was at a disadvantage in close combat, he quickly drew four pistols from his holster and shot him dead.
The fact that Edward is a good rapid-fire shooter is not just a game-system effect; he really is a good shooter as a setup. This means that if he were to fight Haytham or Connor, he could pull out his gun and shoot to kill if he were at a disadvantage💀
this is a copypaste of my previous comment
IMO Edward has 4 reasons he'd win in his iguana leather holsters ;-)
Cold and ruthless with immense swordsmanship and combat training? GUN
Angy + Magic powers? GUN
Can take a hit? GUN
Can take a shot or evade it be it via speed or meat shields? Then advise use of mor GUN 🤣
@Void imagine if they all just smoke bomb but all oh them are used to fighting in it and are just like "well... this is awkward..."
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Definitely Haythem! He’s very smart and dangerous! Connor would be second to me. Excellent video! Now GIVE ME LEE!
THAT LAST PART 😂!!!
🤣
GIVE ME LEE
I think he wants lee
Give me Lee intensifies
Absolutely Connor not only the deadliest kenway but the deadliest assassin. He trained from his childhood unlike others. He learnt climbing trees, mountains, he learnt hunting, fought various wild animals, learnt those survival skills when he was just a child. And not to mention he is strong as hell
Altair was literally born into the creed… 🤦🏽♂️ “unlike the others” these new AC fans are really something else now a days
If we're talking assassins, literally all of them are little bitches when compared to Ezio. And Connor almost lost to a Haytham who was like 60 years old.
@@VsSecretChannel We're not talking about Altair. We're talking about the Kenways. Altair has no place here.
@@northamerica5142 “Absolutely Connor not only the deadliest Kenway but the deadliest assassin” maybe read what i’m replying to before replying to me?
@@VsSecretChannel Connor is deadlier than Altair.
What many people don’t realize is that Edward might be the most talented and naturally gifted of all protagonists of the franchise, yes, even more than Altaïr, why? Because he without any special training or education became one of the deadliest people in the planet, when black flag was released they even said that he could beat Altaïr(this was because his natural skill and equipment, Altaïr was still a better warrior) imagine what he could’ve done with Ezio’s or Connor’s training…
Edward was naturally talented and like you said took out trained assassins and templars without any training he also took out ships like nothing if he got trained he would be unstoppable so yea definitely give me Edward I don’t think hathen beats Edward in a 1v1 tbh
That ending bit with connor made me lose it 😂
Give me Lee intensifies
Edward kenway besides he was the first game I played
ALSO GIVE ME LEE ~ Connor kenway
Tbh Edward running pirate armada on his own is pretty deadly. I don't think Haytham could project such power while on his own, though you could disagree
Isn't the fact Haytham was a master Templar with command over others proof of his ability to lead. He's been a leader of men since 19 and was assigned the duties of bringing the America's to order.
Deadliest goes to Edward all day. I only say this because of game mechanics mostly. None of the other two can you hop on a ship and shoot like 10 pistols back to back in rapid succession clearing the entire deck. When I played as the other two, I didn’t feel nearly as strong as Edward
Haytham is the only one who realised his full potential. I think Edward and Connor were just as talented, but they were never trained or received the same privileged education as he did. So it's clear Haytham was the most dangerous. But by virtue of killing the most folks, Edward automatically takes the crown of "deadliest." I think the order is Haytham, Connor, Edward in terms of who was ultimately more skilled, though.
A family reunion where they didnt try to kill each other would be interesting. Course now that Connor killed Lee i think Haytham and Connor would get along well. Also if they did bring salt you know Edward would likely side with Connor in a argument. Cant blame Connor for wanting Lee dead though given in his mind he did kill his mom. Edward would be busting out the good rum and making all 3 of them sit down for a drink. Who knows enough rum both Connor and Haytham would blurt out they love each other. I think both Connor and Haytham are the type that only way get father son love is if they are both drunk lol.
So... We can all agree Connor won this one.
Edward will always be my favourite AC protagonist and I think if trained like other assassins he would have been the most powerful (plus he uses two swords, earning him extra style points)
Edward randomly killing a highly dangerous assassin and then claims money from templars in his place without even knowing the two sides. Fucking man was a legend early in the game.
This was a masterpiece of a video keep it up 😂
Connor killed his father and would wreck Edward. Lol I'm sorry but Edward is the most overrated protagonist. He's just a ripoff of Jax from SOA thrown into a pirate setting. And ppl give him more undeserved points cause they like to sail a ship. Which is also why AC4 is overrated. Not a bad game. But I wouldn't put it in the top 5 for AC games.
I mean... If they like to sail a ship, it isn't overrated to them... But you have a point
@@walfip_ that's fair. But I mean in terms of being an assassins creed game.
@@colinhoeg4728 if you say it like that, i can't disagree
Strength- Connor
Tactics/BIQ- Haytham
Resourceful/execution- Edward
Number one I fully agree that haytham is the Darth Vader of assassin's Creed number two do you think we could get this kind of video again with 3 other assassin's .
well it took 2 cannon balls for Haytham to get the upper hand on Connor
Haytham hold himself to not kill his own son
@@wajajan697 yeah no doubt about that Haytham didn't even try to destroy Connor's hidden blade before he started chocking him but in that fight Connor was already hurt but was still able to counter his father's attacks and it took another cannon ball to knock Connor down
Why fight head-on?When Haytham took his back, Connor begged for his life. Haytham is good at sneaking up on people and has good stealth skills. If he had wanted to kill Connor, he would have done so long ago. He is certainly a swordsman full of himself, but he also had a gun in his hand. However, he did not use it for surprise until the very end
I myself think Edward is the victor here as he can simultaneously clear an entire ship deck on his own.
I mean have those 2 ever fought A Legendary Ship?
connor clears an army on his own
@@noahlondono8007so does Edward becuase of the time you get to parry is insane in black flag lol.
Liking the new thumbnail style
I think haythem is probably the best pick. Connor is very versatile in his skill set but not as honed as Edward or haythem. And Edward being able to take on trained assassins with two years experience as a pirate definitely scores him big points but he also isn’t as skilled as haythem is. It’s sad that all their stories weren’t really expanded on but honestly I hope we get another game with Connor where he discovers more of his grandfather (because that would simply be awesome) and maybe that would lead to him expanding on the work edward has already done. I think it would be cool as long as it wasn’t a copy and paste rpg like the last 3 games have been.
I think Conner is the deadliest Kenway. Conner destroyed the Templars in Colonial America almost all by his lonesome. Killed most of the Templars himself. Even killed Haytham (even if Haytham may or may not of let Conner win) when he had been repeatedly thrown around and into walls when a cannon destroyed the surrounding area he was standing in. Then he also chased down Charles Lee in his final confrontation with the Templars after he had run through a burning boat and stabbed in the stomach. Leaving a full hole in his stomach. Conner may not be the smartest and the most naive. But for what he lacks in smarts, he makes up for skill, strength, and determination. He is a goddamn tank when it comes to any other assassin.
Yea
Bro connor beat regular haytham after just being hit by a cannon ball so and connor can make haytham hesitate so Connor all the way.
You have to remember that Haytham pretty much let Connor win
@@abdulisbatman1779 but wasn't Connor at a disadvantage because he was already injured by the Cannonball. Shouldn't that even it out. Connor may have had the edge meaning Haytham wouldn't even have the chance to let him win.
@@theinsurance2450 Conor himself was at a physical disadvantage yes, but Haytham didn’t want to kill Connor or betray the Templars, so he let Connor kill him.
Haytham is no different than Altaïr, he is a cold blooded killer that make his mission prevail, would it be the creed of the assassin's or the rules of the templars.
Remember how Altaïr was clearing any loose end after his interrogations ? This is exactly because assassins started to bring morality into their sacred missions that many fled their rank to become templars or pursue more neutral goals.
As Haytham said, Assassin's used to fight for peace, not vague concept such as freedom.
We need a game that's strictly about Haytham!
That ending tho lol!
“Give me LEEE!!!”
“Oh shut your f**king gob!”
Your videos keep getting better and better, keep it up!
I actually agree with this. I think Edward would lose to both Haythem and Connor in close combat but would put up one hell of a fight. But I do think he'd easily win if Ships were involved. He was already an experienced helmsman before the start of AC Black Flag, whereas Haythem, I don't think, had much, if not any experience commanding a ship as in both AC 3 and AC Rogue others are commanding the ship. Connor has experience but not to the degree that Edward does.
I'd also like to say that I think Edward could perhaps win in close combat if it were onboard a ship with his experience on boardings and would use the ship as an advantage.
But I do think if Haythem either was Connor's father and was just some random Templar, he'd easily take down Connor.
Unfortunately, the Aquila is a superior ship than the Jackdaw. The Aquila has more advanced technology, has more cannons, faster and durability than the Jackdaw. The Aquila has several types of shots the Jackdaw does not possess. The jackdaw only has back exploding barrels and front chain shot, while the Aquila only has side cannons. But what quantity the Aquila lacks makes up for quality. The aquila has side chain shot cannons which allows for the disabling of ship sails more readily than the Jackdaw which is only the front cannon. Bearing in mind, with the Aquila, you can actually one shot a Man o War. The Aquila also has heat shot much like the Jackdaw. The aquila also has grapeshot which disables the opposing ship's cannon fire, which the Jackdaw does not possess. Not to mention, Connor is much more experienced than you think. During the time in AC3, he would frequently venture with the Aquila from 1769 - 1781-3. That's about 12-14 years of experience there. During Edward's time with sailing around AC4, he actually has less experience from comparing his time at the end of the game to his life as a privateer (around 11-12 years) of experience. However, during his time in Black flag, Edward has actually ventured more than Connor has, so I would agree that Edward would have more experience. The Jackdaw has went through legendary Man O wars such as El impoluto as well. If the Jackdaw and Aquila battle it out, Edward would have to trick Connor so he can get a few good hits in. Otherwise, the Aquila with its superior technology would blast it into oblivion.
@@k0ana889 while the logic here makes some sense I think we are forgetting the fact a certain someone owns a fleet
as for and quote "During the time in AC3, he would frequently venture with the Aquila from 1769 - 1781-3. That's about 12-14 years of experience there." how often was it compared to Edward? how often was he on that ship in comparison? Edward was traveling island to island, fort to fort. from what I know Connor used the ship for transportation and combat skirmishes far less despite having a longer time over all spent over years in which he sailed but the longer time does not entirely mean he has actively participating all the time or as often to total time spent. we know the time period in which he sailed but not his total time sailing to count for total experience, with some logical reasoning it can be argued that Edward has had and been at helm more time spend total over a shorter period of time.
also aren't we forgetting the fact the jackdaw has mortars which out range the Aquila, a ram which use may vary and the fact the broadside guns train on target and over waves if angled while Aquila has all cannons fire straight which if we are talking a man o' war's broadside in clam seas, yes that would all hit and do big dmg but the jackdaw is both smaller and still maneuverable facing straight towards or away mean less shots land.
no ship at the time had top deck armor (ignore the jackdaws topdeck armor) a mortar coming from above is perfect for punching into a ship, hitting the mast and sails is a bonus
Pirate tactics were to out sail their opponents and with fire barrels and mortars the jackdaw can do dmg the Aquila out of their range and worst case for Edwards delay the Aquila not to mention the Aquila would not be faster as it is both bigger and as you said more durable and armed which = Slow (think of that tank design triangle and having to balance out speed, armor and firepower)
to get any movement with a bigger ship that is both armored and heavily armed you need the right size sails to catch more wind the bigger the ship is in order to move the ship's weight and the less weight on board especially say by weapons and armor the faster the ship can sail with fair winds. a wooden ship in 17xx would not be practically able to have a wooden ship be fast enough as a brig or schooner while being big enough to accommodate the extra armaments, armor, crew, ammo and resources, light enough while having strong armor which ties in with it's speeds which also is impeded by the weight of the armaments.
Also where did get the info Aquila is faster? it's a frigate with 60 cannons
The Jackdaw is a stolen brigantine, due to it's 46 gun armament if in IRL would be classified as a frigate by the standard classification of the Royal Navy. in essence tho it classifies more as a modified brig due to being smaller than a frigate shape and size wise resembling a brigantine more so and if we take the 2 ships fully armed the jackdaw is indeed faster than the Aquila thanks to it's size.
plus if we take the effectiveness of the crews like whoever is on the jackdaw that has the math skills to aim the mortars in a lead in front of a moving target while calculating angle and elevation + distance while correcting for the fact that waves would be throwing off calculations along with the ship they are on is moving. (in short whoever is on the jackdaw working the mortars is doing all the maths and working with every variable against them).
The Aquila is superior in terms of armor and fire power thanks to the number of cannons + those armaments having access to flexible ammo
The Jackdaw is superior in versatility, utility, speed and range.
@@Nelson-fg1xz Did you read what I wrote here? I said although Connor has had the Aquila for longer I said in the next sentence "However, during his time in Black flag, Edward has actually ventured more than Connor has, so I would agree that Edward would have more experience". I literally said that Edward uses the Jackdaw more, hence having more experience, despite Connor sailing for a longer period, Edward was consistently doing so during Black flag. Please read it again.
I did actually forget about the Mortars, it glossed over my mind, but yeah, the range of the mortars would be pretty devastating. But the context of which I was talking about the Aquila vs Jackdaw, was merely based off the Aquila's firepower + superior technology + durability in an all out clash. Many ships in AC4 tanked mortar shots from the Jackdaw. It won't be surprising if Connor just went straight for the Jackdaw and fired chain shots to disable the ship flags. If we're looking at possibilities for winning, the Aquila would almost certainly win in most scenarios. Considering the fact that you brought the mortar argument, if the Jackdaw manages to maintain its distance from the Aquila, the Jackdaw would have a shot at winning. The Aquila itself has dealt with smaller and faster ships than Jackdaw, I so no reason why the Aquila would miss most of its shots. To me that just sounds exactly like plot armor. But, yes I do agree that the Jackdaw is more maneuverable due to its smaller size. Connor is a very good captain after all. Just because we don't see him much in main missions doing ship missions, his side missions demonstrate that he's excellent as his job.
Yeah, I based off the Aquila's speeds due to statements from Faulkner "ghost of the north seas" and etc... Though, it should be obvious that the Jackdaw is faster, due to its size mainly. To be honest, we don't know who's faster, Man o Wars such as El impoluto was massively faster than the Jackdaw. So, realistically, size shouldn't be a determining factor. But, logically, the Jackdaw should be faster.
In versatility, and utility the Aquila is much more superior than the Jackdaw. Like I stated above, the Aquila has many shots that can disable the Jackdaw, by shooting down its masses and grape shot to disable its crew. It's more adapted to situations than the Jackdaw. It literally one shot a Man O war. Its superior technology is something to not be messed with.
@@k0ana889 counter point, the man o war in ac3 is less of a threat than in ac4 as it lacks mortars followed by the fact that a frigate can be disabled/crippled by 4-5 mortar shots.
the man o war in ac3 vs the ones in black flag are indeed differently equipped. the aquila would be slower to turn and avoid ac4 mortars along with the fact as a frigate it is an easier target to hit and land more hits on. an ac4 man o war even the weakest variant can predict and lead it's mortar shots and has range even greater than the jackdaws mortars.
the jackdaw has always faced foes bigger and smaller than it along with a wide Varity, can the aquila say the same? (and not yes but one at a time after years, I mean often and frequently with them being in numbers)
in ac4 man o wars come in 4 varients, level 36. level 49, level 60 bounty hunter ships and level 75 legendary ships. Something tells me that the man o war the aquila can one shot are either level 36 or level 49.
another draw back to the aquila is the time to fire, the jackdaw can fire immediately and does not necessarily need to take as much time to aim followed by the fact it's reload is superior = higher dps. a bunch of cannons trained onto a big target vs a big target with alot of guns trained onto a smaller target with the hp of a level 60 Man o war.
smaller and faster means less shots land. and if it comes to a ram from either front or back then it can slow the aquila via it's chain shot then do one heck of a combo, also how consistly can you 1 shot a man o war? The jackdaw has proven to very do consistent dmg even vs frigates while utilizing its speed and manuvability to out maneuver, avoid and reduce incoming fire.
Mortar, chain, ram, heavy shot, fire barrel then swivels, may seem like a lot but all that can be done in a short time and quite frankly not many ships outside legendary can tank a combo like that alone, even level 60 man o wars will be hurting by the end.
chain shots slow even ship turning at least in ac4 which can also prevent the aquila from both escaping and turning guns.
how I dealt with man o wars like hms prince and la dama negra legendary ships was chain shot the rear, ram, half sail broadside then turn back to chain shot and repeat, staying behind them even if they could still fire back, I was doing more dmg to them then what was dealt to me, this works with frigates as well but harder with smaller faster ships
swivels on the aquila take more time to fire and can't fire as fast as the jackdaws. good range tho
grape shot works by killing the crew, the dmg is little and you have a better chance at using round shot to out dps ur foe than pepper them. if we ignore the irl logic like bracing to avoid crew losses which would delay firing but not the loaded shot and the fact grape shot from a frigate to a man o war would not stop the broadside guns nearly as effectively and focus purely on game function as it just resets the reload then yes delaying gun fire would effective... the problem is the jackdaw reloads and readies shot very fast. if we did the math on dps if both ships are side by side and static, the aquila could reset every other reload from the jackdaw, doing little dmg to the jackdaw while the jackdaw can fire round shot in return assuming we ignore heavy shots.
the unique ammos for the aquila are nice but it is folly to rely on them in this comparason. do tell me, does the aquila have chase cannons? or rear facing cannons? fire barrels or burning oil? last I checked no, it is also is affected by wind more in both a helpful and hindering sense, as wind can help it one shot a man o war with the ram or do negligible dmg where as the jackdaw can ram with or against the wind just as effectively esspecailly with the charge ram ability but thats assuming we are taking game mechanics wise. wind can give it good speed or slow it down. jackdaw can use it's momentum better and won't get blown over and be forced into half sail unless it's a water spout
if we were being realistic, a frigate's ram would be slow and avoidable to the jackdaw but would hurt if enough speed is there to back it up also in thanks to the mass and wind. the jack daw is a reasonble size to have a ram and the manuverbailty and speed to use it more effectively.
also can I say the ships in ac3 lack any amount of metal armor? (aside from aquila and jackdaw) the jack daw has dealt with more foes that can out maneuver them, over power them, out range them, out gunned, out numbered them with varying varieties, out tank them and benefit way more from a trade of blows more so then the aquila has ever faced. (not saying the aquila has never been out numbered and out gunned but the disparity between the to ships and the degree they have faced in vast)
the aquila has iron hull upgrade yes but not top deck and mast upgrade even if we assume it does somehow contribute I'd say the shots for mortars alone is 5-7 and thats assuming it is a equal to or better armor than the max level bounty hunter frigate in ac4. and note the amount if mortars the jackdaw has is enough to sink it 4-5 times depending if we allow the iron hull armor to count and add to the top deck and mast protection. idk bout the aquila but when the jackdaw gets a hull upgrade top deck and mast also get armor.
even if the jackdaw charges straight towards the aquila, most guns will miss as all guns on the ship aim straight where as the jackdaw can shoot chain shot and ram.
also if we are talking game mechanics then the aquila would need more lead on the chain shot as it is slow and short ranged and the jackdaw would have nealy all the time in the world to brace lest you fire from point blank but at that point the jack daw can just fire everything at ya. and continuing on with game mechanics the brace option benifits the jackdaw more so than the aquila, as the jack daw need only watch for burst dmg while the aquila will be facing more sustained dmg (in burst but still but more frequently) and if we want to be realistic about it the jackdaw can still out dps the aquila in sustaining it's fire as it has more resource to do so
@@Nelson-fg1xz Sorry, that isn't a counter point at all. Your argument is primarily based off gameplay wise, when AC3 was heavy driven on Boston / New York, while AC4 was primarily driven in the seas. I do see where you're coming from, but saying this doesn't equate to that. For example, you called the Aquila slow. It was never stated to be slow. It was called Ghost of the North seas for a reason. And by statements from characters, it was classified to be the fastest in the entire Atlantic ocean in its time. You can't base that the rocky gameplay of AC3 was a definitive reason to call the Aquila slow. Same with AC3 and AC4 where the "Lack of mortars" meant that AC3 mortars are less deadly, therefore Jackdaw is better due to having "harder ship battles". You fail to consider the time frame from AC3 - AC4. Ship technology from the 1720s compared to the 1780s have improved significantly. The Aquila has seen its fair share of bigger ships as well. Just because the gameplay in AC4 make ship battles its golden focus, doesn't make it a feat against the Aquila at all.
"in ac4 man o wars come in 4 variants, level 36. level 49, level 60 bounty hunter ships and level 75 legendary ships. Something tells me that the man o war the aquila can one shot are either level 36 or level 49." I'm sorry this is such a stretch that it isn't even a point at all. You don't know what the Aquila can do or not. It can probably one shot level 36 - 49 man o wars, but where is the proof to say that? The thing is, the Jackdaw can't even one shot any Man O wars in Black flag regardless of level. The point I was making with the "one shotting" was that the versatility and vast weaponry from the Aquila can disable the Man O war without sinking it completely. Grape shot, chain shot (which is actually more effective than AC4's black flag due to one side being able to chain shot directly at a ship's sails and effectively tearing them down). Chain shot in AC4 is only at the 4 chaser cannons and temporarily stall a hostile ship.
The reloading issue doesn't necessarily mean less DPS on side cannons, considering the fact that the Aquila has 60 broadside cannons, compared to the Jackdaw's 46 cannons. There is no evidence to suggest either. Considering the time frame, the Aquila's broadside cannons should be much more powerful than the Jackdaw due to this. Being made in a more advanced time line. Though for some reason, in your next few points, you did state that the DPS can be reconfigured and the Aquila could
The Aquila has done this to many smaller ships, so what makes the Jackdaw so unique that would somehow dodge shots from the Aquila? The Aquila has sunken other schooners and other brigs. The size difference doesn't mean everything, considering the fact that the Aquila itself defies that. You know, being the Ghost of the north seas and the fastest in the Atlantic?
You misunderstand how Grape shot works. Its small size allows for it to peer through corners of inside a ship, killing crewmates. It doesn't necessarily attack the top crew. Hence why it's called grape shot.
Yes, I did acknowledge the lack of chaser or rear cannons the Aquila has, compared to the Jackdaw. But the point is, that the Jackdaw only uses them to stall enemy ships. It's not a primary method to sink ships, it only assists it.
You can't keep comparing the Aquila to an average Frigate, much like if I were to compare the Jackdaw to an average brig. It's just a bad faith deconstruction of the Aquila, when it's stated and confirmed to be much more than just an average frigate. It's very fast for a frigate, it's power packed and can square up to a Man O war and can take on multiple ships, much like the Jackdaw itself. It is a fast and very maneuverable frigate. You can literally upgrade its wheel ingame for more stability and better maneuverability.
No the Aquila has plenty of armor. It's an upgradable feature ingame. Please look at it. Saying that it doesn't is also a bad faith deconstruction, considering the fact that it tanked many shots from powerful ships such as Man O wars, which should be much more powerful than ones from AC4. Saying a lack of mortars doesn't mean that it's suddenly weaker, you're trying to scale the ships evenly, when in reality, the ships in AC3 should be stronger due to the timeline. Though range does play a huge factor.
"the aquila has iron hull upgrade yes but not top deck and mast upgrade even if we assume it does somehow contribute I'd say the shots for mortars alone is 5-7 and thats assuming it is a equal to or better armor than the max level bounty hunter frigate in ac4. and note the amount if mortars the jackdaw has is enough to sink it 4-5 times depending if we allow the iron hull armor to count and add to the top deck and mast protection. idk bout the aquila but when the jackdaw gets a hull upgrade top deck and mast also get armor." This argument isn't valid because 1. You're assuming that the Aquila cannot tank mortar shots, 2. You're assuming that the Aquila's durability is equivalent to 5-7 mortar shots and 3rd, there is no evidence to suggest that it's comparable to a "Max level bounty hunter frigate in ac4". The only valid argument comes at the top deck mast upgrade. Yes, the Aquila doesn't have top deck and mast upgrade, but that doesn't necessarily mean the Aquila would be less tanky to Mortar shots. Even in AC4, the Jackdaw doesn't have top deck and mast upgrades too. It stayed relatively the same throughout the game, but it still tanks mortar shots fine. So, why would the Aquila be any different? If you're considering the technology advancements, the Aquila would be more tanky in a logical setting.
"even if the jackdaw charges straight towards the aquila, most guns will miss as all guns on the ship aim straight where as the jackdaw can shoot chain shot and ram." Again, that's not how chain shot works. It doesn't do much damage, it only slows down the ship, and considering it's 4 chaser cannons, it wouldn't do much at all. Yes, and the Aquila has also extremely strong rams. When the Man O war in the battle of Chesapeake disabled the Aquila's cannons, Connor rammed the Aquila into a fully functioning Man O war and completely disabled it. Also, the Jackdaw doesn't get any top deck or mast armor when you upgrade its hull armor. That is a complete lie. The image literally describes the side part of the Jackdaw. Not cool. It only gives armor to the sides of the Jackdaw.
By gameplay mechanics, the Aquila also has a brace option which also reduces incoming damage just like the Jackdaw. That isn't a point at all. From a closer range, the Aquila would absolutely destroy the Jackdaw. In a longer range, the Jackdaw may have a shot, if it manages to keep its distance from the Aquila, it can win. And it's very hypocritical to say that the Jackdaw has more resources than the Aquila, when the Jackdaw has a limited amount of ammo on its mortar, heat shot etc... The Aquila doesn't have a limit. So gameplay mechanics should never be the primary focus when having an argument for your sake.
I think it's Haytham due to his access to Templar resources on top him having assassin training as well
7:39 man Conner had drank too much lean 💀 this happens when you overdue lean 🗿
Ok im sorry but that "GIVE ME LEE!" was so good for Connor entrance lmao 🤣 😂 did not expect it and I should have 😂❤
This franchise could have been amazing if the RPG trilogy wasn't made and instead had more stories with assassin turned Templars and vise versa. Really dig deep into the lore and tenants of both creeds. Edit: Origins can stay but the other two losers can take a hike
I think it's Connor. He was just an absolute beast. He's like the final boss you fight in other Assassin's Creed games.
Nobody:
Connor: "GIVE ME LEE!"
But Connor literally killed haytham…
Connor is the deadliest LIKE HE SURVIVED BEING SHOT BY A CANNON 2 TIMES AND HE PULLED OUT A WOODEN STICK THAT WENT THROUGH HIM IN THE STOMACH AND HE DIDNT HAVE GREAT ARMOUR THAT TIME, Thats just my opinion
Edward, but hear me out, his pure power combined with his in game utilities and abilities, combined with his wits, make him the most well rounded one on this list, Connor sure could take him in a snap, but that is only applied for base Edward, if Edward was to be at prime armor, utilities and weapons, he could be as or more powerful than Connor and Haytham combined.
Connor trys to fight Edward,
Edward:🔫
@@user-Alt_Account 4 reasons for victory in his iguana leather pouches
No one can ecape from haytham and if you're fight edward, you might be recruited as he's crew. About connor? Idk man, just give him lee
7:36 this scene was amazing 🤣
Give me Lee intensifies
I feel like Haytham but then again...
-> Edward is known as "THE DEVIL OF THE CARIBBEAN "😈😈
7:22 was funny
Nah I reckon Edward wins because tbh he’s actually the smartest he has the best weapons and actually kenway taught Haytham so Edward is better by a long shot know he has a bunch of stuff just cause sometimes he’s drunk he actually mostly never drunk like he makes Connor and Haytham look like dust Connor is strong fast and yet somewhat dumb but there we have Haytham he’s smart honest fast strong but kenway oh he’s the best he’s fast strong fast rich kind and a leader
When you said who the winner was... I couldn't.... I just couldn't! 😆😂🤣🤣🤣🤣 I love this video! I love this murderous family a little too much! 😁 As for who I think the deadliest Kenway is..... Desmond! He is a distant Kenway, Auditore, and Ibn-LaʼAhad. He may not have gotten a chance to see Edword's memories, but he got to meet Haytham and Connor's skills.... No?
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Okay, Connor wins!
Obviously they’re all incredibly skilled and deadly, that’s out of question. But to me, in terms of raw deadliness both mentally and phisically, I’d go with Haytham. The guy is so terrifying when he speaks but also on how brutal he is while fighting or even after, while planning some scheme. But of course, I love them all the same❤
Haytham: I have a sword and a hidden blade.
Connor: I have a tomahawk and a bow.
Edward: (gun ports open) I have a full broadside with a seemingly endless amount of powder and shot.
A good question
Who is the BRAVEST ASSASSIN'
Strength= Connor
Intelligence= Haytham
Badass/funny=Papa Kenway
As for me, i would choose Edward, cause only in the mein story he sinked tens of ships, with im shure over multiple thousend people on them, but i really do understand, why you chose Haythem. He`s the menacing death himself
Edward also takes naval forts, kills political leaders and makes his own pirate island.
It would have to be haythem for me. Even if his fighting ability were below par, you said it. He's just a cold blooded killer through n through. Both Edward and Connor could only truly be feared by evil people. Haythem however should be feared by everyone.
Abduct me into creed or kenway come after you
THE ENDING CRACKED ME UP 😂😂😂😂😂
Give me Lee intensifies
A little late to the party, but i agree that haytham wins with what we see in game. But i do have to say that after AC3, with a few more years under his belt, i think connor would hulk smash both of them. Connor is a naive child in the game but its implied at the end that he gains some much needed wisdom. I would have loved to see him later in life, like maybe an older connor in the war of 1812. Have the templars try to reestablish control and having an absolute unit in connor pushing back. Just a thought though
I’ve got a question for you experienced Assassin’s Creed players
Would you rather take AC3 Remastered?
Or both AC Syndicate and AC Unity?
I’ve got a choice and I don’t know what to pick
5:28 has anyone noticed that bayeks first skin in ac origin is in the background?
I googled it and it looks pretty much the same
An alternate universe spin off with all the Kenways together would make me so damn happy
If you are charles lee, connor is the most deadliest
😐 HAYTHEM... HAYTHEM??? NAH BRUH ITS FRICKIN GIVE ME LEE CONNOR MASTER OK
Hi master assassin!
I would love to see video ,,who's the kindest templar" (it would be interesting because templars are not known for being kind)
Thanks for reading
i agree.
Nobody:
Connor: "Give me Lee!!!"
I rooted for Connor but I knew it was haythem bruh that ending 😂😂😂😂 7:35
Haytham felt more like the palpitane to be honest. Shay was more of a Vader/ Anakin. I mean if you think about it he betrayed everybody he knew killed the love of his life (hope)
And after he lost hope you could really see that there was no redemption for shay while shay was in the right betraying the assassins..... He became a brutalized killer and killed other Innocent people people after.. Killing Arno's father
Conner wins easily when they are blocking Lee but otherwise Haytham
Haythem: son what do you want for Christm
Conner: GIVE ME LEE!!
Edward: Oh shut your f*cking gob
Edward carved out a pirate kingdom from two of the strongest empires in history and sank all legendary ships (without any formal training.)
I have to agree. Haytham was a beast. Capable and ruthless.
For me its actually Edward just for the soul reason that he never trained at all
i think ezio is the deadliest kenway but that's just me
Man wtf ?!? Isn't Ezio an Auditore ?
i think the most well rounded of the three would be edward he just has it all lol
That Dum And Dummer skit was so funny
“GIVE ME LEE! GIVE ME LEE! GIVE ME LEE!” 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🥵🥵🥵
But does Edward come equipped with Jackdaw?
Haytham claps Connor
Haytham never beat Connor in a fight.
I am gonna debunk all arguments here
"Haytham didnt want to kill Connor"
Yeah true.And Connor didnt even want to fight,at all.He just wanted LEE!!!
In deleted dialogue Connor says they should stop fighting but Haytham doesnt want to stop.
Connor only went for the kill at the last second.
The whole point is that Achilles trained Connor solely to beat Haytham.
Achilles personally fought Haytham in his prime who wanted to kill Achilles had Shay not stopped him.
Achilles knows EXACTLY Haythams ability.
Connor was so weakened couldnt even stand BEFORE Haytham started sucker punching him.
In the novel Connor confirms that Haytham WAS NOT HOLDING BACK(you can still go all out even though you dont want to murder someone)while Connor WAS.
It was still even.
I totally agree haytham was trained at a very young age And he has years of experience under his belt
i think someone should give him lee
Doesnt connor have a daughter or some how deadly is she
This video was the funniest video so far😂