why I'm already quitting my "dream" job as a school social worker/counselor after 5 whole months 🫠
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Thank you for sharing!! The biggest takeaway is the options that you have when you become a better financial steward. You get a say so and not tied to staying just for the income. Congrats on being in that place and I look forward to your next adventure!!!
Agreed!
I’m a public school teacher in metro Detroit, when you said you were going to work in a school , I said a prayer for you. I headed my schools trauma response team it is a lot . The focus of admin and the mental health staff is triage and not really addressing the root causes , teach coping skills , identifying triggers etc. Teachers have 100+ students that they are responsible for, they often may not notice students struggling until they are in full dis regulation/ meltdown. When I watch your Vlog of your workday I knew that you had a really high standard and wanted to really help students and that’s very difficult to do in a school setting. You can’t really provide therapy, you’re basically doing therapeutic activities and sending students back into an environment with people who don’t fully understand how to support the students or have the skill set to do so. I knew you would be frustrated because of how organized you are. Public schools sadly are often chaotic unless you’re in an affluent district. I would also add that you started during a really turbulent time i.e. post Covid and you started in second semester so you didn’t get the opportunity to set the tone for how your year would go. There’s certainly a difference when you start at the beginning of the school year and mid year. I love that you are clear on your boundaries and doing what’s best for you. That is something that I struggle with, but I did resign from a school this year because I was experiencing racial intimidation.
Honestly, I thought about the timing too (January) and if things would be different if I’d started in august. I guess I may never find out lol so sorry you experienced racial discrimination!
I am in education as well and have been for nearly 22 years. Sadly what you are saying is true in many cases.
I've been teaching in the public school system for 8.5 years and you've hit every nail on the head.
I wouldn’t have told my supervisor and colleagues that I’m actively looking for a new position without having first secured a firm position…You seem like a really nice person and I would assume that your colleagues seem genuinely nice too for you to have shown your hand like that (I’ve worked with some horribly manipulative ppl in the past so I couldn’t imagine doing that & possibly putting a bullseye on my back). I would have simply voiced my concerns while quietly planning my exit. I would definitely recommend that to 99% of other workers out here not tell fellow employees that you don’t really know or your employer that you are job searching unless you’re using it as a strategy to gain a job promotion or salary increase
I also do not recommend it - unless one would be financially stable with the lack of income if they were to be let go earlier than anticipated or reap any other negative consequences!
I agree 💯 Some managers & supervisors won't give you a recommendation to sabbatage you.
This is fairly common in education to give notice before a new placement. They usually start looking for replacement in the spring. So in order for the school to have time to find a quality candidate, the more time the better. I have notified my supervisors in February or March that I was planning to change schools for the fall.
@@afrikurl Exactly. The “rules” are different in education.
This is still good advice. Of course, you will tell your employer that you are e leaving( with a letter) BUT after you found an another job. So, I do agree.
Immediately needed to see this! So many of my friends are in education and what they thought was a dream job ended up not being so. My friend just quit her dream job in a school as a psychologist after just a couple years. Thanks for the update!
I love your approach of "I learned something" versus "I regret y and z."You're so passionate about the kids. It's a pity the system has failed you and the children with all the barriers in place. Whatever happens, I hope you find something in alignment with your values 🙏🏽
I've been in the school system 10 years as a teacher, substitute, and school counselor. The confusion is everywhere, and it all boils down to the leadership. You come across very authentic and professional. Where ever you land, they will be blessed by your presence.
I was a teacher for years, and I come from a family with lots of educators. I didn't work in K-12 in large part because I saw how broken that system was. We do not put the funding and energy we should in to our public school system, and it chases off excellent employees and leaves many of your youth with a mediocre education. I hope your next job is a better fit.
The government doesn't put funding or value into both the educational and mental health systems. It's a very broken system where counselors & teachers are overworked and unsupported.
Yes to all of this! I’ve been teaching for over 20 years now and it’s disheartening how broken the education system is now. I’m in desperate need of a change!
I held my tongue when you first said your new employment is within a school system.
15 yr educator. Former teacher now.
You were diplomatic in your critique.
Education works at best if at all for the least disruptive average to slightly above avg student with run of mill problems if not minimal issues.
I did appreciate the autonomy. My first non system experience with hands on to micro management styles was enough for me to say I’m going to be an entrepreneur.
Hopefully your next transition step is more akin to what you ultimately want to do with your training and skills.
Love your videos Shay. I am a school social worker, I just did 4 years in Chicago public schools. Taking a step to a smaller suburb with more resources this year. I feel like elementary is easier because the kiddos typically have one main teacher to collaborate with and you see so much growth (but more initials/IEP paperwork). Good luck on your SW journey, so many wonderful opportunities out there!
Thanks for the update. I really like how you are transparent about your standards and stand firm .
Not 500 odd experiences! Glad you made it through sis! I pray you find something that better suits you.
Being new to the spd world and meltdowns, and the type of support in various settings a child needs without their parent…listening to you speak just warms my heart for the children you have supported. I hope when my son enters school has someone as genuinely passionate as you to support him throughout his academic journey.💙
Fellow educator here!! 👋🏾 I wish you all the best on your job search. I work with professionals like you on a weekly basis. I am high school teacher at a continuation high school. Thank you for all you do.
Hi Shay, Continue to make this a matter of prayer. I worked a job that often tested my resolve to maintain my conviction to my values. Unfortunately, I initially allowed my concern for my material needs lead my decisions. In the end, I survived with my values in tact but I struggled until I actually put my mental health first. I suggest you remain true to your values and let your conscious be your guide. I pray and hope that you have peace with the choices you make.
I think that is so healthy of a way to look at things. When I was working in an office, I felt the need to leave so many times and I should have followed through with it after the first couple red flags, but I didn't. But like you said....it's a learning experience. Best of luck!
This is just the school system. I just finished my first year as a school social worker and I’m lucky enough to be in one building and i had the same experience. Once you get set up with my some basic they let you do your job but it’s hard when you don’t know what they want to see. I didn’t even have anyone to shadow. So i just created what i wanted to do and what i felt would be helpful and just did it and gave them update along the way
I’m new to your channel. After tuning in, I am subscribing. I’ve spent 16 years in the traditional school system, and it was very interesting to say the least. The students were great to work with, they were never the problem. I done well financially, but working in such an atmosphere can stunt your growth. Congrats to you for keeping your options open. I stayed too long. However, when we don’t move and change at appropriate times, the Lord steps in and make those changes for us.
Now I’m happy. I work in a educational system, but the students who come to see me do so because they want to, not because they’re mandated to do so. I’m not asked to “duty” or do things that are not Social Work related. There were parts of Social Work I didn’t know existed, and I’ve been Blessed to engage in some of those areas. I can’t wait to see your next steps!
School psychologist here. Sounds like a regular thing that happens within schools for many mental health and human services professionals. Can be very different from other settings and often you are forced to live in the “grey” which is very uncomfortable and often leads to weird ethical situations. Even had an admin state that they saw no need for us to have a supervisor that understood our role/ethical mandates which eventually led to a legal issue after a while that could have been prevented with a clinical supervisor on staff. I would say though occasionally you can find a more pleasing situation when school districts are changed (sometimes….). This could be why there is a mass exodus of these professionals from schools right now and thus creating shortages in schools. Good luck on your path!
I worked as an educational audiologist for two years and recently left that position due to the exact same experience. My poor little OCD heart just couldn't handle living in the grey. I affectionately call it the "wild wild, west"- I learned I need structure and a team so being the ONLY audiologist was not a good fit for me.
Skin is 🌟 glowing!!! Life too short not to be happy 😊 well wishes on your journey.
I love how you spoke so thoughtfully about your experience at that job. You can tell that you are a great social worker and clinician, and care deeply about your clients and the services you provide.
I rarely comment but I watch! I’m commenting today to just say, I love how you’re so positive in the video even with all the red flags you mentioned. You got options and I wish you the best! It’s so great to be in a financial position too where you can make decisions more “easily”. You got this! I do hope you’re able to find a new position.
Thank you!
Keep us posted! It would be cool if you could do financial coaching with students. It would combine what you do on You Tube and also allow you to work with a student population. Students don’t get any type of education about money, and it is so important to start young!
I would not like that as a job at all LOL sounds more like a volunteer gig for me 😅
@@ShayBudgets unless you make your own non profit. That would take away the ease you strive for in life. 🤣🤣 This is definitely something i want to do but i currently don't have a volunteer outlet so i would love to do it.
@@ShayBudgets why dont we all go and find out how to slaughter the rothschild family who owns (and stole) 90+ QUADRILLION dollars in wealth to the WHOLE WORLD!
Wow, I’m so sorry you’ve experienced this. Thank God you have been a good steward over your family’s finances. I left my job in April of this year, for different reasons, but I felt you. I had no job lined up, but because I have been on my budgeting journey, I could take off a year and be ok. I left with my own convictions, and was like I’ll kick it this summer. However, because I’m a seasoned HR professional, I put myself out there just to test the waters. I interviewed with many companies weekly, and was offered a job in 30 days🤦🏾♀️ I start the end of the month. But I applaud you for making the best decision for you and your family! You can probably open your own practice and service children on your own terms. Good for you! #options
I appreciate you posting this. I feel like people don’t tend to talk about why they leave their jobs, which makes me feel like I’m always out of the loop. I love my current job but I also like comfort and security and always wonder what makes people think it’s time to move on.
So glad to watch this as I just started the same position in Spring of this year. This is my first time in education and it so different from clinical work (although we are still doing clinical work), there are definitely a lot of barriers in the school system and wanting to provide the best care for students. Great video and very thorough for those of us who are clinicians/LCSW/etc and want to transition into education/school system.
Working 10 years in high schools as a Clinician. Everything you said is so true 100%. I quit finally December 2021. Best decisions ever! Good luck!
Can you share more about your experience?
Which line of work are you in now?
Wishing you well…it is difficult working in today’s public school 🏫 stressful and you have to take care of yourself…heading into year 24 and I have learned to say No and my mental health is essential to my overall well being 👏🏼🙌🏽
As an educator, this touched me on so many levels. I probably learned more about what our SW do with kids while they are holding space with them from this video than in my whole 2 decade career! I also had a light bulb moment that sessions and strategies should be given to teachers tailored to each student. Sometimes when students are not having a good few moments....it impacts the whole class and if I knew EXTRA strategies that would help. This past Tuesday I realized I am ready to leave, probably won't because something 🙃 about education pulls on your heart strings. I respect your willingness to reflect and possible move on, I need the courage to do the same. I also have respected your financial moves over the years and how you are in a space where you don't have to necessarily make a decision right now. Long comment...just so relatable
I am not sure that every social worker does the same as what I’ve shared but I’m sure some of them do! I can definitely say that something about seeing my rising seniors through definitely is pulling on my heart strings 😂
Thank you for sharing your story! I swear I am experiencing the exact same thing. I love working with children & adolescents but this job that I am currently in is school-based. When I tell you I already decided I won’t be coming back next school year, it’s that bad. The school system is really behind on mental health and expect you to be the therapist/mom/behavioralist specialist/everything!
The teachers are burnt out, the staff talk so much crap about the kiddos and it is hard to be the only clinical staff there.
I am dreading tomorrow & miss working remotely.
Sounds about like my life 🫠
@@ShayBudgets sigh, sending you some love and strength. The goal is private practice for me. I thrive on autonomy. I am still trying to get used to waking up early…and it isn’t working 😩 I am not useful before 10am. Every morning I am rushing to get my little one to school then to my job.
My School Social Work job was a nightmare. I did not get any training, there was no one to shadow and they did not have written policies and procedures. I felt like they needed an experienced School Social Worker. It seemed like everybody was winging it.
Definitely winging it over here! 🫠
Schools don't have the funding that your other places may have. A lot of times you are flying solo, but it's okay. We depend on social workers that are willing to work with troubled students and by pass certain things. Teachers remain because it's about the individuals that are there that you can have a tremendous impact in their lives even though there's a lot of crazyness and things you know that are wrong, but keep at it, because you are there for the kiddos.
I love that you paused andsaid you hold space for them. I don't know of that's a training things but I will start using that. 🖤
This is sad. In some higher level jobs they don't like to train. I feel this.
Shay, May I suggest before your dream job reach out to your NASW local chapter for help. They can set you up with a mentor. Good Luck
Can’t wait to see your next. God’s FAVOR on your next career destination.
Thanks for the update. I'm going to school for social work and I'm super excited. My end goal is to work in a hospital setting and I'm really nervous on what it entails. I have thought about going into the school setting, but I don't think that it would be the spot for me.
I can tell you that regardless of if you are working in public, private, catholic or charter schools to a certain extent the school systems are shady. I have worked for over a decade as a Home Based Therapist, I am a LCSW, I have almost a year of working as a medical social worker and 2 years of experience as a school social worker. I am bilingual in Spanish. I am also a Licensed School Social Worker but when I went to apply to work at some high schools I would have individuals that have significantly less experience than what I make now they have no licensure as a Social Worker or School Social Worker , and some last year were interns. The difference is that these individuals that were chosen instead of me were paid significantly less and it is insulting when the school system would make you jump through hurdles and try to make it seem like they choose the best candidate when they chose the cheapest candidate. I hate to say this but as someone that has worked in a Community Center, Community Clinic and a School I can tell you that often in the social work field optics is prioritized over substance and when it comes to assessing, adjusting, having logistic coordination, aligning expectations with reality and valuing the input of professionals in health, mental health, special education is not treated as a priority.
In School Worker you will often see senior admin that will get on ego trips, normalize penalizing students and staff for things outside of their control. Education should be focused on growth and implementation. The factor that so many schools failed to take a personal inventory and assess ways to achieve growth in students before there is a significant deficit is concerning (regardless of learning disability). The factor that so many schools will continue to pacify the incompetent and ineffective common core standards which hiders’ students is problematic.
I TOTALLY get where you’re coming from about leaving your job you were in for 6 years. Sometimes social work makes you feel like you need to shift sometimes.
My brother is a high school teacher. From some of the things he said I just wonder how he stays. It’s a struggle from what I understand. Anyway best wishes to you in your search!!
I have been watching your videos on social work for the past few days (kinda made me want to study SW when I start school!) And I'm about to subscribe right now! I really hope you get into a better work situation and thank you for sharing this with others!
Ever since high school, I struggled with what direction I was going in. I was always trying to figure out the next course I was going to take to fulfill my goals after high school. I have to say that I was happy to come from a family where everyone worked. The most impressive thing is that when my brother dropped out of high school, he got his own place and worked. The natural progression for me was to get a job and work. I never talked to my guidance counselor about things, because I didn't know if he worked in that capacity. I used to hang out in the library and research different careers. I bought a countless number of books on different careers I thought I would like.
Um welcome to state, local and federal government employment. This proves a point as to why children fall through the cracks. You seem to be very good at what you do and I hope you keep going because you are very much so needed.
This is so crazy! i am having the same experience 8 months in beside the supervision piece. I am just starting my social Work career and felt draw to sticking it out for the experience. Im currently weighing the pros and cons but the cons are piling up. It’s been such an internal struggle but I’m finally looking for other opportunities as well.
Glad to hear you’re at least being supervised!!! 😅
That’s a little alarming that you were put in the position with no direction or supervision especially just starting. Not everyone cares the way you do about doing the best job possible and would just wing it in the position. I can only imagine the possible affects it would have on the students.
I would love to hear about your other revenue streams! As a fellow social worker, I’m always looking for side hustles😊
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I just started working in the schools after being in private practice for 10 years and I am really struggling to stay. 😢
I homeschool and I don't think I could work in a school. Thank you for sharing your experience
Im a school social worker and special education teacher who had to leave during covid as i couldnt/wouldn't take the shot due to prior neurological problems caused by Hep B series followed by the flu. This gave me Gillian Barre. After seeing 2 neurologists, i realized that i had to leave my job. It was hard. My father died of nerological problems and I wasn't going to risk it.
At any rate, i have an interview on Wednesday to go back to work. I will be requesting supervision too. Its very important
Wow, your video really resonated with me! I’m an LCSW who has been in the field for many years. I also thought school social work was my dream job. School districts/admin, can be so quirky! I now work as a Military and Family Life Counselor, based at two schools. It’s not super clinical, but I do enjoy the flexibility and of course the school schedule and summers off! If you live near a military installation, you might want to look into this. I live in CO and there are lots of positions open here!
I am a military spouse working towards a BS in SW. Is a master's degree required for Military and Family Life Counselor?
@@ltconyers78 Hi! Yes a masters degree is required for MFLC. Also must be licensed in your discipline.
Many types of social workers work in the school. Some school social workers have state school certification without the license and provide "support" to the students and not "clinical" services.
Thank you for all u do to help out these children ...but yes it's a stressful environment when u give it ur best and not get all the support u need from everyone!!
This was interesting. I currently work as a therapist within the school, but I am stationed at one school; and not employed directly with the school district. However, at my school there’s a team of us (5). I’m grateful for my experience. I love this population, but I certainly could not imagine being a therapist within a school without support or clinical supervision. I believe a system without support sort of puts the clinician at risk for burn out and does a disservice to the students. Good luck on your job search!
100% agree!
If you do end up staying you should try to sit down with the supervisor as things need to change.
This was my recent experience. I was at a position that I enjoyed, but then a position I’ve wanted for several years opened and it was the perfect time to apply. I applied and left within 6 months. It wasn’t for me 😢
Yesss I have a similar experience. It’s the only vid on my channel.
I did see your interview and job search on your week plan. Having a child with special need , I am niot surprised that this is happening in the school setting.
Welcome to public education
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Is it normal for someone that may have enemies to have people calling their job and bad mouthing them to their co workers or boss?
No
I was a school SW for approx 6-7 months. I got tired of the “red tape” and politics.
!!!!!!!!!%$^#$#%@$#@^% so frustrating!!!!!
I’m in school to be a social worker and have considered doing school social work. What is the red tape and politics that you are talking about?
Maybe a private or charter school setting would better suit you.
Someone told me those were even worse for clinicians 🫣
@@ShayBudgets private practice perhaps?
Honestly too lazy to embark on that journey at this moment but possibly in the future!
Educator here 👋
I can’t wait to retire 😩
Why do you think systems don't teach children about the earliest working ages and healthiest birthing ages, to prepare them for parenting and homeownership??
No clue lol
As an educator, I appreciate your video but please try to stick it out. Our children need you. I will admit that the public school system is very different than working in corporate or private sector. Try not to think about what doesn't work and think about how many children that you've reached in the 5 months of employment. Peace and blessings to you 🙏🏾
What was your previous job that you loved?
Well I loved my coworkers and my employer - not so much the job 😅
@@ShayBudgets we’re you working in a clinic? I’m looking into going to school social work or counseling but I’m just trying to feel out all the different job opportunities with that kind of degree
No, it wasn’t a clinic. It was a nonprofit though!
but what if you want transfer is it like quitting
Transfer to another position in the district? I guess that would still be quitting one role and starting another one
Fellow social worker here! Do you have your LCSW?
Taking the test next month 🤪
Yes I do. I am a LCSW and a Licensed School Social Worker
@@ShayBudgets Good luck Please let me know if you need any resources to prepare for the test
Some people just don't have the heart
I just have to say your really beautiful! Im not even half way done the video but i just had to tell you!
Lol! Thank you!
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You have no passion for it. I knew I wanted to be a school counselor since high school, not because you saw a job you like in some website.
Love that for you
I feel you. I am a middle school assistant principal. It is rough out there.
I’m a Social Worker in a school setting. It’s definitely interesting 🫠
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