I left social work after only 6 months because I was struggling so badly with my mental/physical health. Took an entry level position at the art museum right by my house and, while I'm still reeling from the identity crisis, I am 1000X happier and more at ease than I was there. I was miserable, stressed out, and borderline delirious when I left because I was so burnt out. Now I'm in just a regular job that I can absolutely see myself going further in, but can also easily quit with no sweat. Thank you for sharing because I thought I was alone and crazy!
I love social work because I am idealistic.. But working with traumatized people 8 hours a day 5 days a week wears on you. I have always been introverted, I also have social anxiety. and wondered why I wasn't thriving in the social work jobs I had been hired for in the past but after extensive therapy I realized what my issues were; my personality conflicted with the work and I couldn't deal with the systems that social workers are forced to work in that prevents real change for clients. I value my knowledge but I know my skills are more suited for a different field. I decided not to get my MSW and am getting certified as a Paralegal and graduate in May. I don't regret my decision one bit. I appreciate your video, it's nice knowing that I'm not alone!
Do your skills are suited for a Paralegal? (I am asking because I think that i may be an idealistic too... I don't know what to do) (and i have social anxiety too)
@@mariangelamariangela4199 they have definitely been helpful! I work as a paralegal now for a plaintiff personal injury firm. I find that my SW skills have transferred over really well advocating for injured folk against greedy insurance companies. But a lot of it can be mundane and you have to remain organized and use problem solving skills. Overall I really like it. It really is a unique career!
@@missarah19 I felt that deep in my heart when you wrote we cannot create true change helping others within this system! It's true and I hate the system. I counsel tons of clients with trauma and it's draining. I'm glad you're doing well as a paralegal.
I completely relate to you especially as it relates to your personality incompatibility as well as feeling vicariously stuck with clients. I'm done with this field but can't think of anything else I could transfer my skills to. My dysfunctional childhood/family system trained me to be a caregiver/emotional analyst/crisis responder and now I don't know how else to be. While I'm still trying to figure this out it is so so so helpful to know that there is hope on the other side and that at least I'm not the first person that has ever felt like this.
This is really helpful. I’m an LCSW and 6 months ago I quit my second job in social work. I almost took another one a couple weeks ago and I bailed right before it started. My PTSD from this work was activated and in full force. I’m about to apply for work at a supermarket making sandwiches. I’d rather do that then go back this field. I appreciate you touching on the identity crisis. I feel the same way but I think I’ll get over it. I’m 34 about to turn 35 and I’m remembering that I was person before social work. I’ll stay in private practice to make extra money but I’d rather make sandwiches then take a full-time social work position. Thank you
I ran into the same stress and burn-out as a RN. I did leave a well paying nursing job for a job at Subway. What a shift, but I couldn't take another day as an RN at the time.
Thank you for this video. I've been in social work for almost 2 years, but in a helping professionion for nearly 9. I've been experiencing mental decline and emotional turmoil at an alarming rate. I'm strongly considering leaving and taking up farming, as I truly love cultivating plants and vegetation. I've just been apprehensive because of what others might say. The thought of staying in social work sends shivers down my spine, and I know that I just can't do it for much longer.
I was a social worker for 12 years. Then I got a second license in health insurance, which took me about 6 months to get. Left social work for a career in insurance sales/ On my second year after that I hit 6 figures. I thought I would be happier? No I wasnt. I still missed social work. I eventually went back, now I moonlight as a social worker on weekends doing home health visits. MOney Is good = but the grass is not always greener on the other side,
I have a bachelor's in social work with 5 years of experience and currently in grad school. I am quitting school and the field. It's not worth losing my sanity...thank you for the video.
@@itzelmontalvo6645 I'm working in insurance with my husband and eventually we plan on opening our own insurance agency. I love the fact that I don't bring work home anymore ☺️
I'm in the middle of my social work practicum and am having second thoughts about the ENTIRE profession. I've met social workers at the agency and am completely overwhelmed with what their day to day looks like and what they deal with. It's different learning the material in class to actually going out into the field and experiencing it.
Yes, I just finished two months of child welfare training and knew that once I finished my age would throw me to the wolves. I received no on the job training, they only had two case workers with over a hundred cases between them. One supervisor who has cases of their own. They had 5 ppl leave within one month. There was no professional dress or behavior. I would go into the agency on our "Field days" hoping I would be able to shadow someone on a home visit and would see the family support workers twerking and gossiping about cases and the children. I was told on daily basis that to get ready to cry alot just don't do it in front of the families. I was told that for court I was not allowed to tell the judge I don't know regarding a case ,even if you just get it 2 hours before. Unrealistic expectations coupled with almost non existent training just made my stomach sick. Also we are required to use our own vehicles to take kids around . We would get paid for mileage but no coverage in case the youth vandalize your personal property. I just couldn't see myself going forward. But now I'm just feeling lost and not sure what to do next. It's scary.
I’m now a chemist! I don’t have to speak to anyone it’s amazing! My work is judged on my work, not my personality or how I speak to others. I don’t feel self conscious anymore and I feel free to be me
I left social work 15 years ago and honestly the first job I had after doing so, was like walking on air. I looked forward to going to work, there were no reports to write, no bureocratic b.s, and my work mate and I felt uplifted at work because I was just so happy. (True story). My new job was working with kids. didnt experience any of what was mentioned here, I guess everyone is different. I dont miss the bureocratic b.s, the high and complex case loads, and the inability to be authentically and naturally myself due to counselling training. Its also freed up more time for me. I wanted a simple job. Im a lot happier. Honestly, dont look back! These days I am still working with kids - my own. I am her tutor and absolutely love home schooling and teaching. I love the values of social work though, much respect to the profession. X
Great perspective Kelsey. My view of social work if you are going to last is all about keeping professional boundaries with the clients and pushing back towards your employer. I had a co-worker make a comment that I really care about patients when the truth is I just create an illusion that I care focusing on the task at hand; and once you leave for the day mentally switching off. Empowering individuals is my main practice approach as we can't save everyone unfortunately. To be honest the main reason I got into social work was the good steady money for hospital social workers and eventual desire to earn more in private practice therapy. At the coalface on the ground with homeless, mental health and child safety is just brutal.
I just quit my job with CPS and changed my degree away from social work. I’m glad I got to see the job before I finished my degree and got my license. Your video really helped me feel understood. Thank you
I feel this. After I got my MSW I took a year off social work. Now I don’t think I can go back. After working 5 years in the field plus grad school I’m just burnt out and don’t want to go back to any kind of direct practice. But now I’m trying to figure out what else I could do lol…
I qualified in '92. Badly stressed in several periods during my SW career (child protection, mental health, adult social care, substance misuse, criminal justice) - friends later told me I was not a very nice person when I was stressed. Burnt out very, very badly indeed on one occasion about 15 years ago - I literally collapsed at home and could not get out of bed properly; very scary experience. Felt the same dangerous warning signs in early '18 and eventually left SW in early '19. When you're buried deep in an unhappy or unhealthy situation in your work over a long period of time, you lose perspective and you feel you cannot see the horizon or any light at the end of the tunnel. Everything in your life (what's left of it after a typical ten hour day) becomes horribly tainted with the negativity of your daily work. When you eventually take the plunge to leave SW, you feel like Sméagol slowly coming out of his caves from under the Misty Mountains and out into the sunlight (but without entering the winding path to Mount Doom!)
I graduated as a BSW this year, 2020.. and started my social work job 2 months ago. I can HONESTLY say: I have to quit this field asap due to my high stress personal/family life. The type of stress of social work can be very extreme. IF you have a stressful personal/family life, this might be difficult career move. Just a heads up.
I left the mental health profession for the education field and had no clue how draining it would be for me. I agree with everything that you are saying and yes, I agree a break needs to happen in between. I am currently in the process of figuring out how to find a job that "I can do my job and go home." And have it still be fulfilling. It is a tough balance but I do agree. Time for a reset is necessary.
I am considering entering the mental health profession and i am confused by your comment, if you are a therapist, isnt everything appointment based? dont you have fixed hours? what do you mean taking your work home?
I know this video was made a long time ago but I had to look up what others had to say. This was sooo helpful. I currently started my first true social work job about 3 months ago. I'm now starting to realize at 26 that this is NOT for me at all. I can't deal with the stress, demands, feeling lost almost everyday, and dealing with clients that are sometimes hostile or don't follow through with our companies policies. I also have my own mental/physical health to deal with and this job makes it worse. I've started gaining weight more, started to become more depressed, etc. I just have to look out for myself. I've started looking into other jobs and may become a Loan Administrator. I feel I'll be much happier working a less stress job and its a job, not a career which I prefer. Of course my degree was somewhat a waste but it helps with my pay at least.
Thank you for this video!!! I left social work after a year and 3 months and felt riddled with all of these feelings of doubt and exhaustion. I was in CPS in England and ended up literally having a break down and had been hesitating about leaving until one day it all got too much, I haven’t been working for the last 3 months and have taken a break from all work due to the burn out and chronic fatigue. The identity crisis and career crisis is my main issue now - its knowing what to do with myself now job wise and regrets about leaving, all the what if’s! If anyone has any advice? Please share! ❤
I quit my job as a CPS worker almost three months ago and I completely relate to everything you said! I also left to a more business/accounting field and it’s like night and day! Thank you for making this video and best of luck to you 😊
@@karlarios5609 When I first went to college, I got my associates in Marketing Management. I never got a job in that field, but the degree did help as I took accounting as one of my classes. I had a lot of customer service/people skills that were transferable to my business job now because I would still be working with clients.
could somebody maybe help me? i’m in school for business but want to try social work and i know so many people leave the field but i just don’t know what to do
Your brought an interesting point on identity crisis. I am currently a behavior technician and I want to go back to school and pursue a BSW. I want to be a social work because I can help others. Never have I thought social worker have to go through many burden. Glad, I stubble upon your videos. Thank you for sharing.
I was adopted and wanted to do everything you said. Foster care system was hard to make kids spend time with their accused abuser. Every time I tried to find something I like but, there was always an issue...such as a verbally abusive boss.
I’m going on 28 years. I wanted out after the first day😢but my guilt came from the money I spent getting my degree. But its a very stressful, demanding job
I consider myself a high resilience type of person. I’ve been in the field for 15 years. But now I am leaving because it’s a very thankless job and I have experienced very very very bad leadership over the last for years. That on top feeling like I’m burnt out finally. Took long but it happens to the best of us.
@@rockandrolldude22 who me? I did child protection social work, then worked as a contract social worker for an attorney, and now I work as a therapist. I enjoy being a therapist but case management-type social work I did for 8 years SUCKS
Thank you for still helping people by making this video. I am freaking out a little bit about taking on other people's problems and putting important things/people in my life on the back burner. I don't think I want to enter this field. :D. Thanks for the insight.
This was very helpful! I've been working in Education for the past 10 years with a Doctorate in Psychology and Masters in English Literature. I had considered going back to school for Counseling or Social Work but opted instead to do my MBA. I still plan on teaching and writing (I'm a published author), but I need something that isn't as emotionally draining as well!
If you had a doctorate in psych then all you needed to do in order to practice therapy is take your state's exam, no need for social work or counseling degree?
Thank you so much for sharing this. I've been doing Social Work for almost 4 years and I'm really considering leaving. I feel so guilty about it. I feel like I should want to do this but deep down I don't believe this is for me. As I'm at this crossroad this video is very helpful.
I'm not even a social worker, but I'm in a helping industry and I feel like you're hitting the nail on the head. I was considering switching to a different helping career, but I've been feeling nervous about it (hence why I'm here) 😅😥
I need to get this out of my chest so please don't grill me over what I'm about to say. I'm working as a caseworker. I took this job a month ago and my caseload is insane! 25 people on caseload. My clients have a very low education level and most expect me to do EVERYTHING for them. Most don't even want to try and go immediately to " I don't know how to do it and can't try because I don't speak English." I have so many things to do that I can't be doing everything for everybody but that's what my supervisors expect me to do. I'm only a month in, and I want to quit. Oh he'll to the no! I'm not going to get a master's in social work as I had planned.
Same 😢 my caseload is insane. 50+ ppl. I’ve wanted to leave after my first week but everyone’s like stick through it and now I’m 4 months in and I’m ready to go. How are you now?
@@khadijah6791 I'm so sorry you are in the same situation I was. I quit 3 weeks ago and it felt so good. I started having health problems and my mental health was suffering as well. I quit and found a job in the school district.
@@marys3738 I’m happy for you! I can’t wait to feel free. I hate the feeling of being stuck but I can’t leave without a job in place. I’ve been applying to jobs. So we’ll see *fingers crossed*
As much as I don't mind the workload of being a caseworker, my heart isn't in it. I thought that I would eventually start enjoying my job once I started getting things done but it doesn't feel rewarding even when I complete my most difficult tasks. I've worked as a caseworker for several months and I've been told that I'm doing a good job but I know that eventually my morale will bring down my work performance
I’ve been in social work for 2.5 years and i’m ready to quit. Im so damn tired emotionally. Child welfare is so hard. I need either a job change or field change
Im a very shy person studying social work in my 3rd year. I don't know if I can survive this because everyone keeps saying you should not be a social worker if your a shy person.
I don’t think that’s necessarily true! It really depends on your clients & environment you’re in. Some clients would appreciate that. Everyone is different!
Wow this was spot on! I left the field in direct care alittle over 1 year and I am still healing. Im a intake coordinator now still might be still too close. Very proud of the 13 years in miss but for my own well being I had to leave. Great video!
I just received my BS in social work. I am searching for jobs in the field. I am afraid that I wont be a good social worker because I am shy, not confident, so I feel that the clients wont take me seriously. Idk if I chose the right career😭😭
Ana Mejia if confidence/shyness is the only thing, I wouldn’t let that discourage you! I would focus on making genuine connections and relationships (obviously professional) with your clients, and the confidence will come naturally. Remember why you entered the field, and be a sponge when it comes to absorbing all of the learning experiences that’ll come your way.
LIVE2523 for some reason my reply didn’t go through! I’m an IT recruiter and my email is 17kelseymarie@gmail.com. Also studying for my real estate license!
Ana Mejia You will have clients who connect with you more than they would with a more outgoing social worker BECAUSE of your personality and introversion. I think we need all types of people in social work, being a social butterfly is not a requirement. I totally struggled with those same feelings but you will know how to speak up when it matters.
How did you segway from social work to staffing? One of my main concerns about leaving the field is finding another good paying job without having to go back to school. Thanks!
KTS 34 I quickly realized I wasn’t getting any traction applying for recruiter positions, so I ended up accepting a recruiting/operations assistant role at an IT consulting firm. It was a pay cut at first, but I learned quickly and within 6 months was promoted to a recruiter. That was less than 2 years ago and I’ve almost doubled my income since! I picked IT because it’s one of the higher paying industries when it comes to staffing. My advice is to not go back to school unless you’re 100% sure you absolutely need to do so. Good luck!!
@@girlx534 I'm already doing social work courses and did volunteering and stuff. That's what I meant. I feel like I already made the effort to keep furthering my studies on this, so I don't know if should still consider changing majors.
@@JayJae3 Oh that’s nice! I’m still in my first year so I have time to choose whether I want to continue or not. The only reason why I’m stuck with it is because I have nothing else I want to do. What are the majors you’re interested in? Edit: also if you like social work then I think you would be amazing at it
Listening to you talk about quitting social work, I feel stressed out already and haven’t started school or work yet, I think I’ll change my major, I don’t want nothing bothering me my mental health
After an associates and a bachelor degree in social work that was the hardest thing I ever went through (especially the last semester juggling 6 classes), becoming burnt out, and having no interest in the curriculum, I truly don’t know if the field is for me. My internship robbed me of what I wanted to do which was shadowing therapists in a mental health clinic and now since I’ve graduated I can’t even find a job in what I want to gain experience in. I was a caregiver for two years while studying for my BSW, and it was the best job I ever had even though it didn’t pay much. It made me think of becoming a nurse but I don’t know which path I should take. Either go for my MSW and still have doubts on the field or more regrets, or go for another associates or bachelors but in nursing…I guess my question is, how do you know what you want to do in life?
That’s the big question isn’t it?! If you’re doubting social work, I wouldn’t get your MSW. I’d work for a year or so before making any big decisions. That’s just my opinion though! Good luck!
Ha ha 😊 I was considering getting finished with my BA in human services n listening to a few reasons why getting out making me think… including my sister. She went into Another field. Thanks so much. Thanks for making a difference for others. 🌟💕
Graduated in 2017 with my bsw and I got burnt out quick. Going for my MBA now. While I love the field I shouldn't be stressed and struggling with a degree.
@Tahtianna At some companies if you’re there long enough and commit to staying there for x number of years, they will pay for your MBA tuition & fees. It really varies by company though.
So badly I want to leave SW, but idk what other types of jobs are going to pay as much as I’m getting now. I’m a medical case manager and the job is so boring and frustrating bc we have so many patients on our case load & I feel like the patients want you to do everything for them, they are so needy. I’ve been doing SW for 2.5 years. 1st job was discharge planner and I left after 2 mo, terrible experience. I’ve been trying to get into the school system, but dang it’s hard, It seems that you need to know someone.
Same! Rehab/nursing home and the residents and family members are soooo needy. They want us to do everything for them on top of the many things we do for them. I’ve been here for 4 months going on 5 and I feel so stuck I want to go. I feel so bad for wanting to leave but how were you able to leave after your 2 month job?
@@khadijah6791by the second month i started applying to different SW jobs and got into medical case mgmt. Just start applying to other places. Don’t feel bad, SW jobs don’t want to pay over a certain amount and are always understaffed. I don’t like it at all, only good thing is I like my coworkers. But I will continue my search into other areas.
@@Vane973 yeah I’ve been applying for two weeks now and heard back from one place. I wanted that job but I didn’t realize it was far when applying so I’m still looking. I agree. I like my coworkers as well but we are soooo understaffed. It’s only 2 of us managing 95 people.. thanks for the reassurance because I’m always feeling bad but I don’t want to be there.
I'm still trying to decide what I want to major in, but I'm taking an intro to social work class right now and I was considering pursuing it, but I'm so indecisive lol. One of our assignments is to interview someone with a BSW or MSW (what a typical day on the job is, educational/practice background, etc.) and I was wondering if you would be open to having an interview over email? Or if anyone who reads this would be open to it, I would greatly appreciate it! Thanks!
Vexilee not sure if I’d qualify anymore since I’m not currently practicing😅 but I’d be happy to if that’s okay! My email is kelseyswansongraf@gmail.com
Only people who truly understand what we go through in this field are the ones who are actually in it or have previously been in it rather investigations, foster care ,adoptions etc. It's difficult and we need to practice self care. As hard as it is to find time to do it's a must to survive in this field. I can go on and on because I have been in this field for 5 years but I will run out of space🤦🏾♀️ This was very helpful, never thought about what may come after as much as most of us feel we want to leave. Thanks!
Oh no. I have Bipolar disorder and I want to be a social worker. I'm wondering if it's worth it, having this mental condition and trying to help others.
and today? how do you feel? do you use what you learnt, good or bad for the right reasons, you sound genuinely interested… careing should be a priority.. prevention of falling apart i hope all worked out well for you
In 2020, Texas Social Work tried making it ethical to discriminate against the LGBT community. Oklahoma Social Work board follows legality on discriminatory practices against people living with HIV. Social workers put the profession over the marginalized populations.
What had occurred in Texas and Oklahoma appear to be products of each state's political atmosphere rather than the profession itself. The NASW Code of Ethics advocates against the discrimination of marginalized individuals and many social workers have fought for human rights and have helped to create policies that benefit members of the lgbt+ community.
@@puapucuve6643 The board is not beholden to the NASW. There is no supervisory agency above each state's board. That is how some boards are able to discriminate, unless someone has the finances to fight back legally. Thank you for your input. McMahon, A., & Allen-Meares, P. (1992). Is social work racist? A content analysis of recent literature. Social Work, 37(6), 533-539. Corley, N. A., & Young, S. M. (2018). Is social work still racist? A content analysis of recent literature. Social Work, 63(4), 317-326. Social work practices are vastly different than its education.
I don’t find it to be emotionally Taxing I just feel chronically stressed. Maybe I’m too chronically stressed to process how emotionally taxing it is. I do think this this job will put me in an early grave. But who am I if not a social worker? It’s hard to imagine what any other life could be. But I’m starting to wonder of the possibilities ... burnt out social worker here. I find your comment of being faced with your own stuff once you quit absolutely fascinating. I literally dream of quitting and working at Safeway every day. Are you happy you left or do you have regrets?
@@kelseyswansongraf thanks so much for your reply. I found your video incredibly insightful. I am kind of in a pre contemplative stage of considering other options. Is your new corporate career less stressful? I like the idea of recruitment. I know it would still have stress but do you find it to be more manageable? Thanks 🙏
Another one bites the dust... Social services is a hard field to work in. Not surprised you bailed. Social services are poorly funded, maligned by conservatives, and defunded by politicians who represent corporate donors. If you want social workers to stay, the political climate has to change so that the government truly helps its citizens.
I am a Social work student and my practicum coordinator is the worst. Imagine this person is supposed to be an individually you should be able to talk to and feel comfortable with, instead this practicum coordinator fail me intentionally because I had to complain to the Head of the faculty for them. I had to endure classes where this person would make underlying remarks at me. I am so hurt over failing this course at the university, I am at they don't go against each other and I could end up being victimised again. When I was on my practicum I had to pay for everything out of my own pocket bus fare clothes and lunch. The practicum in my country is 8 months.
Sigh 🙃 I’m doing the opposite of everyone in these comments I’m transitioning to this field because I always wanted to go into and I never did due to the negativity I got from Everyone about It I graduated with another degree and now I feel unfulfilled and I have a lot of regret and what ifs
HI, I commented like 5 months ago I'm hoping if I could connect with you in some way or form because I would love to know how you did how did your career jump? For me, I'm 34 and studying to try and do my social work national license now that I have my master's but I would love to get into another career.
What type of social worker were you? There are many places a social worker can work, insurance companies, government, quality control, training. If someone just worked in child services, you can’t dismiss the whole career.
I worked in adoption and CPS. There are definitely avenues for everyone who wants to be in the field. I don’t think I dismissed social work as a whole, was just speaking from my experience/perspective and looking to help others who are in the same shoes I was in.
What job in this career field could you recommend for someone who is highly interested in psychiatric/mental health social work? Background: I recently obtained my BA in Sociology and am working full-time in special education, as well as in youth residential care. (I work with the most diverse population of traumatized adolescents. Can be very sad but also extremely fulfilling.) Also, I served 6 years in the US Army and consider myself to be a very emotionally resilient and reliable individual. I understand this career is not for everyone, however I just have a passion for it. The organization I’m currently with is amazing, however my BA degree only allows for so much advancement in my career here, or anywhere in Los Angeles county for that matter. I’m learning that for any long term career I’m going to need my MSW, or LCSW? I think it would be so cool to work in a Psych Hospital/Ward or any kind of highly demanding and stressful Mental Health facility. Any insights on this would be greatly appreciated!
What an awesome background! Honestly hearing you talk about the type of environment you want to be in reminds me of the hospital my fiancé works in - he’s a forensic psychiatric nurse and works at a mental health hospital/facility specifically with criminals with severe mental health diagnoses. When they’re deemed incompetent to stand trial, they go to his unit. Most of them are violent. Those kinds of hospitals also have social workers too. I assume it’d be required to have an MSW. I would only recommend pursuing an LCSW if you’re true interest is sitting down and doing actual therapy with folks. Your role is more so an actual therapist. Another area I could see you in is juvenile delinquency work - there’s a ton of need for social workers in that department at counties. If you’re not interested in criminology at all then I think continuing to work with adolescents in residential care or in a specialized school would be a great avenue! You’re right that MSW opens doors, but honestly I was surprised when I was out in the field how many of my peers did not have a masters degree. I hope this helps and thank you for the work that you do!!
@@kelseyswansongraf Kelsey, thank you so much for your sincere and thoughtful response. You’ve definitely given me a lot more to think about and consider. Got it, so LCSW not exactly relevant to or needed for what I’d like to pursue. Forensics work sounds really cool, but not exactly in my interest, great recommendation though! I’ve considered looking into my local Youth Detention/juvenile facilities, perhaps I should actually do that now lol. And yes I still need to figure out whether or not a Masters program is even necessary for me and what I’d like to do. What jobs did your peers have that did not require an MSW as a prerequisite? If I intend to go into more advanced social work, compared to what I’m doing now, wouldn’t an MSW only benefit me in a variety of ways? Again thank you so much for taking the time to respond to my comment, absolutely very helpful!
Thanks for this video. I just started working in social work, about 4 months ago, but I'm already thinking about reevaluating my choice because of how emotionally taxing it is. How long were you working in that field? Also, can you do a video about your typical day in the recruiting field?
Latifa B thanks for the positive feedback! I was in the field for about 4 years total between all of my work experiences and field placements. I worked as a social worker while getting my MSW part-time, and then for a little over a year post-MSW. And that’s a good video idea! I can work on that. :)
New subbie here! Great video, Yes you are so right! I absolutely love the work that I do. I practice social work in the mental health field and I do classroom therapy and social work content videos. Would love to connect!
I am so stuck by my career choices because they revolve around the helping professions. I already have a bachelor's degree in nursing and considering an MSW with a MPH. Would I be better off in Macro Social Work due to the stress of Micro Social Work?
Tanya Hanson-Meier Honestly, I would only go back to school if you’re absolutely sure and have a clear direction/idea with what you want to do with it. If you’re open to it, maybe see if you can get an entry level social work related job just to see how you feel about it first. I know I wish after getting my BSW I had taken the time to just work before getting my MSW! I probably wouldn’t have even bothered getting the extra degree knowing what I know now. Everyone is different though. I wish you all the best!
Tanya Hanson-Meier but to answer your question more specifically, macro definitely has less stress in terms of direct patient/client care obviously. However it has its own challenges in terms of dealing with politics, slow moving policies/changes, etc.
@@kelseyswansongraf Thanks for your replies. I might see if I can get into Community Health nursing first since I already have that degree. But I have not worked as a nurse for 20 years. I was raising a special needs child instead so I thought of being a school social worker or a special ed school teacher as well.
Maybe some one can give some advice. I am currently in my first quarter of a three year MSW program in Southern California. I thought I was set on this, but I am getting burnt out and really wondering if I see myself completing this whole three year program. It is a lot with the internship hours also. I know the MSW will open a lot of career doors, but it is also super Expensive (like 75-80k). I have been accepted to a MBM program w/ entrepreneurship emphasis (18 Months and 30k). I am thinking about switching to this program, as I also have business dreams. Anybody have any tips ? Great video by the way !
If you're already burned out just a few months into a SW internship, ya you may want to reconsider. As an lcsw myself in So Cal, I can say it pays well in this neck of the woods compared to other states. But the burn-out is real
Hey Kelsey , I hope u would consider this question... I took my BCA degree in India. ..but i wanted to go for MSW for my further studies abroad (Canada/US)..I just wanted to ask whether I would be able to go for that course(MSW/BSW) or anything related to it, despite taking a whole different course here. Ps:Love your videos and am respecting your decision.
Mathews Varughese you definitely would be able to pursue your MSW, regardless of background! People come to the program with all different types of Bachelor degrees. The only difference is that it will take you longer to complete since you’ll have additional courses. For example in the states if you have your BSW, you can get your MSW in 1-1.5 years full-time or 2-2.5 years part-time. If you don’t have your BSW and pursue your MSW, that typically takes about 2 years full-time or 4 years part-time. Good luck!! :)
That is soooo hard, Mathews... I have Bachelor of Arts and currently doing Master of Social Work. A big mistake..... You have to "catch up" with three years of Bachelor degree somehow....And this is a "heavy" academic language... endless sociological theories....endless bla..bla..bla... "Bird's language" you never going to use. Nobody cares, nobody helps you.... Teachers say that you are already on Master level, so, you have to find answers on your questions yourself. Research the Internet - all answers there (there are the answers I have heard from our teachers). Think 10 times before making such a choice!
All these ppl in the comments with personal trauma going into the field to "help" is a problem. Rather you admit it or not you are carrying a bias and you will cause harm even if its unintentional. Not just harm to families but to yourself
Most social workers have some trauma background to be able to empathise with clients. I guess what professional social workers do is they don't bring that into their practice and leave all their own problems at home. Social workers that can't make the separation don't generally last.
People will never understand the torment of people like you not hurting the parent as much as the child on a mental level learning everything with your parents then getting ripped away from them then enter the system and gets reprogrammed another way then that fails confusing the child in the long end not fair mentally to the child at the end
Hmmm typically you do have some training/guidance as well as a designated person to help with any questions...I hope that ends up being the case for you❤️
Bloom Gaming what are some good high positions in social work that doesn’t have high burn out. I don’t really like the computer field it’s so boring. Plus I could easily get my msw in 6 months because of my school program
@@updateserver It depends what you define as good paying. 100k+ would be a successful private practice, high level management positions or teaching at universities.
Bloom Gaming okay because I stay down south and I know they pay more up north but I don’t plan on moving soon. I was thinking about being a school social worker but idk I do like the classes and the concept of everything.
@@updateserver there are so many aspects and opportunities in social work. School social work, social policy, counseling, therapy, gerontology, other hospital jobs, VA, military, coordinator and so many more. Really check it out.
Im in a field that I can help people but kind of business. Setting in a clinic. I always want to help people in vulnerable. So I was thinking about social work.
A LCSW RUINED my family. I thought getting a Gaurdian Ad Liedem would be a good thing in my dispute with my ex over our kid but it turned out to be a LCSW, turns out they made things WORSE. They spent very little time with the child and was just throwing all these diagnosis on her. If you ask them ANY questions they give you a canned over educated answer. You can't understand what they are talking about and the results speak for themselves. If you think being a Social Worker does not entail doing more harm than good at times, you are BLIND. Also they charged $250 an hour for a report that relied mostly on one sides story. It was a joke and the LCSW was obviously against Men, cause that is what "Social Work" is about now. She did nothing to try to help the child maintain a relationship with the father. The sad part is these people will never take responsibility for the outcome, they always hide behind their over-educated speak and "doing their job". Please find another career.
Personally, I think it really depends on the person and the boundaries you set for yourself. But in terms of emotionally draining, social work definitely was more.
I just have a quick question. Is it possible to find a good job without a masters degree and license? I will be completing my BSW but I know I do not want to go back for more schooling. Please help!
Hi Kelsey, I recently just completed my bachelors in social work and now I am just wanting to gain experience in an entry level job in social work but I’m starting to feel like my masters in social work isn’t that worth it so I’m thinking about doing my masters in something else but except I wouldn’t have job experience in that field so really I’m stuck on not knowing what to do if I plan on switching careers later down the road
Stephanie Kurian that’s hard, I guess my overall advice in that scenario would be not to get a masters until you’re more sure of what you want to do long term! It’s a huge investment.
Kelsey Swanson Graf Thanks for the reply! The reason why I’m considering changing in careers is because I come to realize that I don’t want to be in a job where I have to travel on the road and use my car for it to run mileage and gas and I know that some agencies give you a car but honestly speaking I don’t like doing home visits that scares me and I’m kind of a bad driver at that but I honestly still loved what I learned in social work so what do you think? Should I still stay in the field? Cause I do have an interest in IT and HR but I don’t know where to start in that field since I didn’t get a bachelors degree in it
Stephanie Kurian I think there’s definitely some social work specialities that don’t require you to do home visits/use a car, for example working in a hospital. If that’s the sole reason why you’re looking to make a move you just might be in the wrong specialty. But the population you’re serving should be of interest as well!
I dont agree that they should get a break a lcsw ,,, i have a clinical social worker that has been on the field for 36 years pretty soon she will retire,,but never she got a break or quit cause she found out that she stuied for that field that she loved and never quit....for me if you study for soemthing and then realize your dont like that field once your in and quit ....is like playing a game of children that they dont know what they want even tough your an adult now..
I'm coming close to my graduation, and I'm finishing my grad school in social worker studies; I'm curious what did you jump too? Did it work? How did you start over? I keep thinking I could be a therapist, but I also feel if I can get out with a head start, that would be wonderful any advice? YES love this video YES YES YES YES!!! I go to a therapist, and I loved it, and I wanted to become a therapist myself, but I realized it takes a lot to be a social worker, and I'm natural at it, but I don't want to do it. What did you switch to how, and how did you get there? I was thinking of becoming an academic advisor or HR. And how did you get to the business sector? What did you do? I'm fascinated by this because I don't know how to get out.
Emily Bartchy I’ve been a recruiter for an IT consulting firm the past couple years but got my real estate license right before COVID hit. My goal is to be full-time in real estate by early next year if not sooner!
I'm into my 4th week in the Bachelor of Social Work Degree at university not realising I had my first assignment overdue which threw a spanner in the works. This was a perfect insight into what Is now expected of me as I can now include the pro's, con's and the outcome of Why I chose to study Social Work in the first place. Now I finally understand why I joined the profession in the first place.
I think she is looking way way too much into such small detail and what others think. She can still help others in her new job and give great advice . I don't think she is really bringing up irrelevant issues. I'm confused is to what she is trying to say.
I left social work after only 6 months because I was struggling so badly with my mental/physical health. Took an entry level position at the art museum right by my house and, while I'm still reeling from the identity crisis, I am 1000X happier and more at ease than I was there. I was miserable, stressed out, and borderline delirious when I left because I was so burnt out. Now I'm in just a regular job that I can absolutely see myself going further in, but can also easily quit with no sweat. Thank you for sharing because I thought I was alone and crazy!
I love social work because I am idealistic.. But working with traumatized people 8 hours a day 5 days a week wears on you. I have always been introverted, I also have social anxiety. and wondered why I wasn't thriving in the social work jobs I had been hired for in the past but after extensive therapy I realized what my issues were; my personality conflicted with the work and I couldn't deal with the systems that social workers are forced to work in that prevents real change for clients. I value my knowledge but I know my skills are more suited for a different field. I decided not to get my MSW and am getting certified as a Paralegal and graduate in May. I don't regret my decision one bit. I appreciate your video, it's nice knowing that I'm not alone!
That’s awesome! I’m glad you found the right fit. :)
Do your skills are suited for a Paralegal? (I am asking because I think that i may be an idealistic too... I don't know what to do) (and i have social anxiety too)
@@mariangelamariangela4199 they have definitely been helpful! I work as a paralegal now for a plaintiff personal injury firm. I find that my SW skills have transferred over really well advocating for injured folk against greedy insurance companies. But a lot of it can be mundane and you have to remain organized and use problem solving skills. Overall I really like it. It really is a unique career!
@@missarah19 I felt that deep in my heart when you wrote we cannot create true change helping others within this system! It's true and I hate the system. I counsel tons of clients with trauma and it's draining. I'm glad you're doing well as a paralegal.
I completely relate to you especially as it relates to your personality incompatibility as well as feeling vicariously stuck with clients. I'm done with this field but can't think of anything else I could transfer my skills to. My dysfunctional childhood/family system trained me to be a caregiver/emotional analyst/crisis responder and now I don't know how else to be. While I'm still trying to figure this out it is so so so helpful to know that there is hope on the other side and that at least I'm not the first person that has ever felt like this.
This is really helpful. I’m an LCSW and 6 months ago I quit my second job in social work. I almost took another one a couple weeks ago and I bailed right before it started. My PTSD from this work was activated and in full force. I’m about to apply for work at a supermarket making sandwiches. I’d rather do that then go back this field. I appreciate you touching on the identity crisis. I feel the same way but I think I’ll get over it. I’m 34 about to turn 35 and I’m remembering that I was person before social work. I’ll stay in private practice to make extra money but I’d rather make sandwiches then take a full-time social work position. Thank you
Nick Repice so glad you found it helpful! Good luck!
I don’t know how long you’ve been out of the game but maybe make a follow up video at some point.
Nick Repice it’s been two years now. Good idea!!
Thanks! Subscribed!
I ran into the same stress and burn-out as a RN. I did leave a well paying nursing job for a job at Subway. What a shift, but I couldn't take another day as an RN at the time.
Thank you for this video. I've been in social work for almost 2 years, but in a helping professionion for nearly 9. I've been experiencing mental decline and emotional turmoil at an alarming rate. I'm strongly considering leaving and taking up farming, as I truly love cultivating plants and vegetation. I've just been apprehensive because of what others might say. The thought of staying in social work sends shivers down my spine, and I know that I just can't do it for much longer.
I was a social worker for 12 years. Then I got a second license in health insurance, which took me about 6 months to get. Left social work for a career in insurance sales/ On my second year after that I hit 6 figures. I thought I would be happier? No I wasnt. I still missed social work. I eventually went back, now I moonlight as a social worker on weekends doing home health visits. MOney Is good = but the grass is not always greener on the other side,
That’s a great perspective!
Hello can you share how you got your health insurnace license? I am a therapist looking to move in that direction.
Helping persons with disability like me is a blessing to you and us🙏
I have a bachelor's in social work with 5 years of experience and currently in grad school. I am quitting school and the field. It's not worth losing my sanity...thank you for the video.
Carle V glad you enjoyed it!
What are you doing now?
Glad you're getting out of it*
@@itzelmontalvo6645 I'm working in insurance with my husband and eventually we plan on opening our own insurance agency. I love the fact that I don't bring work home anymore ☺️
@@jonahbenson5755 thank you!
I'm in the middle of my social work practicum and am having second thoughts about the ENTIRE profession. I've met social workers at the agency and am completely overwhelmed with what their day to day looks like and what they deal with. It's different learning the material in class to actually going out into the field and experiencing it.
SU is not the prob
Narcs in management should bee behind bars....
Yes, I just finished two months of child welfare training and knew that once I finished my age would throw me to the wolves. I received no on the job training, they only had two case workers with over a hundred cases between them. One supervisor who has cases of their own. They had 5 ppl leave within one month. There was no professional dress or behavior. I would go into the agency on our "Field days" hoping I would be able to shadow someone on a home visit and would see the family support workers twerking and gossiping about cases and the children. I was told on daily basis that to get ready to cry alot just don't do it in front of the families. I was told that for court I was not allowed to tell the judge I don't know regarding a case ,even if you just get it 2 hours before. Unrealistic expectations coupled with almost non existent training just made my stomach sick. Also we are required to use our own vehicles to take kids around . We would get paid for mileage but no coverage in case the youth vandalize your personal property. I just couldn't see myself going forward. But now I'm just feeling lost and not sure what to do next. It's scary.
I’m now a chemist! I don’t have to speak to anyone it’s amazing! My work is judged on my work, not my personality or how I speak to others. I don’t feel self conscious anymore and I feel free to be me
@lexiscott6494 That’s amazing!
I left social work 15 years ago and honestly the first job I had after doing so, was like walking on air. I looked forward to going to work, there were no reports to write, no bureocratic b.s, and my work mate and I felt uplifted at work because I was just so happy. (True story). My new job was working with kids. didnt experience any of what was mentioned here, I guess everyone is different. I dont miss the bureocratic b.s, the high and complex case loads, and the inability to be authentically and naturally myself due to counselling training. Its also freed up more time for me. I wanted a simple job. Im a lot happier. Honestly, dont look back! These days I am still working with kids - my own. I am her tutor and absolutely love home schooling and teaching. I love the values of social work though, much respect to the profession. X
Great perspective Kelsey. My view of social work if you are going to last is all about keeping professional boundaries with the clients and pushing back towards your employer. I had a co-worker make a comment that I really care about patients when the truth is I just create an illusion that I care focusing on the task at hand; and once you leave for the day mentally switching off. Empowering individuals is my main practice approach as we can't save everyone unfortunately. To be honest the main reason I got into social work was the good steady money for hospital social workers and eventual desire to earn more in private practice therapy. At the coalface on the ground with homeless, mental health and child safety is just brutal.
I just quit my job with CPS and changed my degree away from social work. I’m glad I got to see the job before I finished my degree and got my license. Your video really helped me feel understood. Thank you
I feel this. After I got my MSW I took a year off social work. Now I don’t think I can go back. After working 5 years in the field plus grad school I’m just burnt out and don’t want to go back to any kind of direct practice. But now I’m trying to figure out what else I could do lol…
I qualified in '92. Badly stressed in several periods during my SW career (child protection, mental health, adult social care, substance misuse, criminal justice) - friends later told me I was not a very nice person when I was stressed. Burnt out very, very badly indeed on one occasion about 15 years ago - I literally collapsed at home and could not get out of bed properly; very scary experience. Felt the same dangerous warning signs in early '18 and eventually left SW in early '19. When you're buried deep in an unhappy or unhealthy situation in your work over a long period of time, you lose perspective and you feel you cannot see the horizon or any light at the end of the tunnel. Everything in your life (what's left of it after a typical ten hour day) becomes horribly tainted with the negativity of your daily work. When you eventually take the plunge to leave SW, you feel like Sméagol slowly coming out of his caves from under the Misty Mountains and out into the sunlight (but without entering the winding path to Mount Doom!)
I love the LOTR reference❤️ thank you fir watching!
The system is too broken, I can handle a lot but had a lot of questions of its ʻwaysʻ...Helping people does not always mean social work.
I graduated as a BSW this year, 2020.. and started my social work job 2 months ago. I can HONESTLY say: I have to quit this field asap due to my high stress personal/family life. The type of stress of social work can be very extreme. IF you have a stressful personal/family life, this might be difficult career move. Just a heads up.
Yes that's true speaking of experience
How much do you earn ...im considering going into social work
I left the mental health profession for the education field and had no clue how draining it would be for me. I agree with everything that you are saying and yes, I agree a break needs to happen in between. I am currently in the process of figuring out how to find a job that "I can do my job and go home." And have it still be fulfilling. It is a tough balance but I do agree. Time for a reset is necessary.
Hang in there! I hope things work out for you!
I’m in this boat… considering leaving social work to be a teacher. Is it as draining or more then social work ?
I am considering entering the mental health profession and i am confused by your comment, if you are a therapist, isnt everything appointment based? dont you have fixed hours? what do you mean taking your work home?
I know this video was made a long time ago but I had to look up what others had to say. This was sooo helpful. I currently started my first true social work job about 3 months ago. I'm now starting to realize at 26 that this is NOT for me at all. I can't deal with the stress, demands, feeling lost almost everyday, and dealing with clients that are sometimes hostile or don't follow through with our companies policies. I also have my own mental/physical health to deal with and this job makes it worse. I've started gaining weight more, started to become more depressed, etc. I just have to look out for myself. I've started looking into other jobs and may become a Loan Administrator. I feel I'll be much happier working a less stress job and its a job, not a career which I prefer. Of course my degree was somewhat a waste but it helps with my pay at least.
Glad to hear it was helpful!!
Thank you for this video!!! I left social work after a year and 3 months and felt riddled with all of these feelings of doubt and exhaustion. I was in CPS in England and ended up literally having a break down and had been hesitating about leaving until one day it all got too much, I haven’t been working for the last 3 months and have taken a break from all work due to the burn out and chronic fatigue. The identity crisis and career crisis is my main issue now - its knowing what to do with myself now job wise and regrets about leaving, all the what if’s! If anyone has any advice? Please share! ❤
I quit my job as a CPS worker almost three months ago and I completely relate to everything you said! I also left to a more business/accounting field and it’s like night and day! Thank you for making this video and best of luck to you 😊
Page Choe thanks so much! :) best of luck to you as well!
How did you leave to a more business accounting field? Did you have education or experience in the field before hand ?
@@karlarios5609 When I first went to college, I got my associates in Marketing Management. I never got a job in that field, but the degree did help as I took accounting as one of my classes. I had a lot of customer service/people skills that were transferable to my business job now because I would still be working with clients.
could somebody maybe help me? i’m in school for business but want to try social work and i know so many people
leave the field but i just don’t know what to do
@@elliegaffney2556 Hi, are you having second thoughts about switching careers?
Your brought an interesting point on identity crisis. I am currently a behavior technician and I want to go back to school and pursue a BSW. I want to be a social work because I can help others. Never have I thought social worker have to go through many burden. Glad, I stubble upon your videos. Thank you for sharing.
Tommy thanks for watching!
I was adopted and wanted to do everything you said. Foster care system was hard to make kids spend time with their accused abuser. Every time I tried to find something I like but, there was always an issue...such as a verbally abusive boss.
I’m going on 28 years. I wanted out after the first day😢but my guilt came from the money I spent getting my degree. But its a very stressful, demanding job
I hope you are taking care of yourself
Exactly the money spent on this degree
After the first day? Why? Working a corporate job isn’t good whatsoever furthermore there’s tons of great government jobs
Then leave
#4 is the reason I’m considering leaving social work, it’s wreaking havoc on my marriage 😢
I consider myself a high resilience type of person. I’ve been in the field for 15 years. But now I am leaving because it’s a very thankless job and I have experienced very very very bad leadership over the last for years. That on top feeling like I’m burnt out finally. Took long but it happens to the best of us.
OMG getting my MSW was the most expensive regret of my life 🤣
L0VEisAmixtape LOL seriously🤣
What did you do after
@@rockandrolldude22 who me? I did child protection social work, then worked as a contract social worker for an attorney, and now I work as a therapist. I enjoy being a therapist but case management-type social work I did for 8 years SUCKS
😂🤣, right
@@L0VEisAmixtape case management and working in CPS is the worst!! But being a therapist is draining and vicarious trauma as well 😭.
Thank you for still helping people by making this video. I am freaking out a little bit about taking on other people's problems and putting important things/people in my life on the back burner. I don't think I want to enter this field. :D. Thanks for the insight.
Thanks so much for watching! ☺️
Planks in law are the problem, SUs are gems
This was very helpful! I've been working in Education for the past 10 years with a Doctorate in Psychology and Masters in English Literature. I had considered going back to school for Counseling or Social Work but opted instead to do my MBA. I still plan on teaching and writing (I'm a published author), but I need something that isn't as emotionally draining as well!
Oh wow, congrats! Im so glad you found it helpful. :)
If you had a doctorate in psych then all you needed to do in order to practice therapy is take your state's exam, no need for social work or counseling degree?
Hello I'm doing my bachelors in psychology now and this field isn't for me can I pursue masters in English ??
Thank you so much for sharing this. I've been doing Social Work for almost 4 years and I'm really considering leaving. I feel so guilty about it. I feel like I should want to do this but deep down I don't believe this is for me. As I'm at this crossroad this video is very helpful.
Philecia Tyrell thank you so much for watching!
Same
In my fourth year and contemplating
Wow never thought there is many like us. I’m entering my 4th year and I’m thinking of leaving the social work field
I'm not even a social worker, but I'm in a helping industry and I feel like you're hitting the nail on the head. I was considering switching to a different helping career, but I've been feeling nervous about it (hence why I'm here) 😅😥
veronicahearts well thank you for watching, and I hope it works out for you! :)
I need to get this out of my chest so please don't grill me over what I'm about to say. I'm working as a caseworker. I took this job a month ago and my caseload is insane! 25 people on caseload. My clients have a very low education level and most expect me to do EVERYTHING for them. Most don't even want to try and go immediately to " I don't know how to do it and can't try because I don't speak English." I have so many things to do that I can't be doing everything for everybody but that's what my supervisors expect me to do. I'm only a month in, and I want to quit. Oh he'll to the no! I'm not going to get a master's in social work as I had planned.
Every job is overloaded now !
Teachers have 16 kids minimum to watch .
LPN have 20-30 patients to take care !
Same 😢 my caseload is insane. 50+ ppl. I’ve wanted to leave after my first week but everyone’s like stick through it and now I’m 4 months in and I’m ready to go. How are you now?
@@khadijah6791 I'm so sorry you are in the same situation I was. I quit 3 weeks ago and it felt so good. I started having health problems and my mental health was suffering as well. I quit and found a job in the school district.
@@marys3738 I’m happy for you! I can’t wait to feel free. I hate the feeling of being stuck but I can’t leave without a job in place. I’ve been applying to jobs. So we’ll see *fingers crossed*
Who will grill you over your decision?
As much as I don't mind the workload of being a caseworker, my heart isn't in it. I thought that I would eventually start enjoying my job once I started getting things done but it doesn't feel rewarding even when I complete my most difficult tasks. I've worked as a caseworker for several months and I've been told that I'm doing a good job but I know that eventually my morale will bring down my work performance
When I left CPS social work I lost 80 pounds!
Wow!!!!
I’ve been in social work for 2.5 years and i’m ready to quit. Im so damn tired emotionally. Child welfare is so hard. I need either a job change or field change
Do you mind sharing how it was so difficult for you
Im a very shy person studying social work in my 3rd year. I don't know if I can survive this because everyone keeps saying you should not be a social worker if your a shy person.
I don’t think that’s necessarily true! It really depends on your clients & environment you’re in. Some clients would appreciate that. Everyone is different!
Wow this was spot on! I left the field in direct care alittle over 1 year and I am still healing. Im a intake coordinator now still might be still too close. Very proud of the 13 years in miss but for my own well being I had to leave. Great video!
I just received my BS in social work. I am searching for jobs in the field. I am afraid that I wont be a good social worker because I am shy, not confident, so I feel that the clients wont take me seriously. Idk if I chose the right career😭😭
Ana Mejia if confidence/shyness is the only thing, I wouldn’t let that discourage you! I would focus on making genuine connections and relationships (obviously professional) with your clients, and the confidence will come naturally. Remember why you entered the field, and be a sponge when it comes to absorbing all of the learning experiences that’ll come your way.
What are you doing now? I would like to email you about my experience. I’m done with social work.
LIVE2523 for some reason my reply didn’t go through! I’m an IT recruiter and my email is 17kelseymarie@gmail.com. Also studying for my real estate license!
Ana Mejia You will have clients who connect with you more than they would with a more outgoing social worker BECAUSE of your personality and introversion. I think we need all types of people in social work, being a social butterfly is not a requirement. I totally struggled with those same feelings but you will know how to speak up when it matters.
I’m shy and found that a lot of clients gravitate towards people like us because we are empathic and less intimidating. Don’t worry !
How did you segway from social work to staffing? One of my main concerns about leaving the field is finding another good paying job without having to go back to school. Thanks!
KTS 34 I quickly realized I wasn’t getting any traction applying for recruiter positions, so I ended up accepting a recruiting/operations assistant role at an IT consulting firm. It was a pay cut at first, but I learned quickly and within 6 months was promoted to a recruiter. That was less than 2 years ago and I’ve almost doubled my income since! I picked IT because it’s one of the higher paying industries when it comes to staffing. My advice is to not go back to school unless you’re 100% sure you absolutely need to do so. Good luck!!
@@kelseyswansongraf Thank you!
I have the same concern as well. I've been in the field for 11 yrs and I cannot do this anymore nor do i want to go back to school.
I had two years of break. The 2nd year not only broke me mentally but it broke my heart. I really miss it. Though you made some great points.
I hope you’re doing better now!
Can you please share your process of leaving social work?
Working on more videos!
My problem is I don't Know what else I would want to do.
Literally me rn
Same, but I have other majors I'm interested in. I stuck with Social Work though.
@@JayJae3
Why are u stuck? If you have something you like then just do it
@@girlx534 I'm already doing social work courses and did volunteering and stuff. That's what I meant. I feel like I already made the effort to keep furthering my studies on this, so I don't know if should still consider changing majors.
@@JayJae3
Oh that’s nice! I’m still in my first year so I have time to choose whether I want to continue or not. The only reason why I’m stuck with it is because I have nothing else I want to do. What are the majors you’re interested in?
Edit: also if you like social work then I think you would be amazing at it
Listening to you talk about quitting social work, I feel stressed out already and haven’t started school or work yet, I think I’ll change my major, I don’t want nothing bothering me my mental health
I regret majoring social work ., It sucks!!
Can you elaborate more on why you regret it? I'm thinking about taking it in school
Change your major
After an associates and a bachelor degree in social work that was the hardest thing I ever went through (especially the last semester juggling 6 classes), becoming burnt out, and having no interest in the curriculum, I truly don’t know if the field is for me. My internship robbed me of what I wanted to do which was shadowing therapists in a mental health clinic and now since I’ve graduated I can’t even find a job in what I want to gain experience in. I was a caregiver for two years while studying for my BSW, and it was the best job I ever had even though it didn’t pay much. It made me think of becoming a nurse but I don’t know which path I should take. Either go for my MSW and still have doubts on the field or more regrets, or go for another associates or bachelors but in nursing…I guess my question is, how do you know what you want to do in life?
That’s the big question isn’t it?! If you’re doubting social work, I wouldn’t get your MSW. I’d work for a year or so before making any big decisions. That’s just my opinion though! Good luck!
Great video. A lot of good information in this video.
Ha ha 😊 I was considering getting finished with my BA in human services n listening to a few reasons why getting out making me think… including my sister. She went into Another field. Thanks so much. Thanks for making a difference for others. 🌟💕
I am a socialworker and almost 60! Such wise words! " you push your own desires down"
Graduated in 2017 with my bsw and I got burnt out quick. Going for my MBA now. While I love the field I shouldn't be stressed and struggling with a degree.
Good luck! Definitely have a workplace pay for your MBA if you can!
@Tahtianna At some companies if you’re there long enough and commit to staying there for x number of years, they will pay for your MBA tuition & fees. It really varies by company though.
@@kelseyswansongraf great video! What kind of work do you currently do now ? I’m strongly considering leaving social work as well…
@@SheSpeaks247 I’m a real estate agent now and love it!
So badly I want to leave SW, but idk what other types of jobs are going to pay as much as I’m getting now. I’m a medical case manager and the job is so boring and frustrating bc we have so many patients on our case load & I feel like the patients want you to do everything for them, they are so needy. I’ve been doing SW for 2.5 years. 1st job was discharge planner and I left after 2 mo, terrible experience. I’ve been trying to get into the school system, but dang it’s hard, It seems that you need to know someone.
Same! Rehab/nursing home and the residents and family members are soooo needy. They want us to do everything for them on top of the many things we do for them. I’ve been here for 4 months going on 5 and I feel so stuck I want to go. I feel so bad for wanting to leave but how were you able to leave after your 2 month job?
@@khadijah6791by the second month i started applying to different SW jobs and got into medical case mgmt. Just start applying to other places. Don’t feel bad, SW jobs don’t want to pay over a certain amount and are always understaffed. I don’t like it at all, only good thing is I like my coworkers. But I will continue my search into other areas.
@@Vane973 yeah I’ve been applying for two weeks now and heard back from one place. I wanted that job but I didn’t realize it was far when applying so I’m still looking. I agree. I like my coworkers as well but we are soooo understaffed. It’s only 2 of us managing 95 people.. thanks for the reassurance because I’m always feeling bad but I don’t want to be there.
Who you know is more powerful than what you know...
Truth...
SW is Corrie, so so Corrie
Just as an update, I’m a high school counselor now, it’s way less stressful than case mgmt. I do like it more.
I'm still trying to decide what I want to major in, but I'm taking an intro to social work class right now and I was considering pursuing it, but I'm so indecisive lol. One of our assignments is to interview someone with a BSW or MSW (what a typical day on the job is, educational/practice background, etc.) and I was wondering if you would be open to having an interview over email? Or if anyone who reads this would be open to it, I would greatly appreciate it! Thanks!
Vexilee not sure if I’d qualify anymore since I’m not currently practicing😅 but I’d be happy to if that’s okay! My email is kelseyswansongraf@gmail.com
@@kelseyswansongraf Thank you so much! I will email you :)
Please consider macro social work as well, its policy, community, it want be as draining as CPS, therapy, or case management
Only people who truly understand what we go through in this field are the ones who are actually in it or have previously been in it rather investigations, foster care ,adoptions etc. It's difficult and we need to practice self care. As hard as it is to find time to do it's a must to survive in this field. I can go on and on because I have been in this field for 5 years but I will run out of space🤦🏾♀️ This was very helpful, never thought about what may come after as much as most of us feel we want to leave. Thanks!
So glad it was helpful to you :)
Oh no. I have Bipolar disorder and I want to be a social worker. I'm wondering if it's worth it, having this mental condition and trying to help others.
I think anything is possible! I just make sure you’re taking care of yourself and have a good support system.
Thank you so much I am about to enter a complete different field than social work....
and today? how do you feel? do you use what you learnt, good or bad for the right reasons,
you sound genuinely interested… careing should be a priority.. prevention of falling apart
i hope all worked out well for you
I’m so lost with my social work career. It doesn’t feel like a good fit for my nervous system.
Are you still in recruiting? How is it going? I’m a recently minted swer & unsure if I chose the right path. 😬
In 2020, Texas Social Work tried making it ethical to discriminate against the LGBT community. Oklahoma Social Work board follows legality on discriminatory practices against people living with HIV. Social workers put the profession over the marginalized populations.
What had occurred in Texas and Oklahoma appear to be products of each state's political atmosphere rather than the profession itself. The NASW Code of Ethics advocates against the discrimination of marginalized individuals and many social workers have fought for human rights and have helped to create policies that benefit members of the lgbt+ community.
@@puapucuve6643 The board is not beholden to the NASW. There is no supervisory agency above each state's board. That is how some boards are able to discriminate, unless someone has the finances to fight back legally. Thank you for your input.
McMahon, A., & Allen-Meares, P. (1992). Is social work racist? A content analysis of recent literature. Social Work, 37(6), 533-539.
Corley, N. A., & Young, S. M. (2018). Is social work still racist? A content analysis of recent literature. Social Work, 63(4), 317-326.
Social work practices are vastly different than its education.
Equality lawyers aren't enforceable..in the UK...
Human rights are a joke...not applicable in trials.
Watch the film called the trial !!!
I don’t find it to be emotionally
Taxing I just feel chronically stressed. Maybe I’m too chronically stressed to process how emotionally taxing it is. I do think this this job will put me in an early grave. But who am I if not a social worker? It’s hard to imagine what any other life could be. But I’m starting to wonder of the possibilities ... burnt out social worker here. I find your comment of being faced with your own stuff once you quit absolutely fascinating. I literally dream of quitting and working at Safeway every day.
Are you happy you left or do you have regrets?
No regrets for me! I absolutely agree with your statement that you don’t realize how emotionally taxing it is until you’re out.
@@kelseyswansongraf thanks so much for your reply. I found your video incredibly insightful. I am kind of in a pre contemplative stage of considering other options. Is your new corporate career less stressful? I like the idea of recruitment. I know it would still have stress but do you find it to be more manageable? Thanks 🙏
I hope you find your way out. One possibility - besides Safeway! - is in career or academic advisement.
I have no regrets
My soul belongs to me, well God, but my integrity was not for sale.
Regulatory lawyers are Corriee azzz 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@julietcrowson3503 were you not able to keep your integrity as a social worker?
Another one bites the dust... Social services is a hard field to work in. Not surprised you bailed. Social services are poorly funded, maligned by conservatives, and defunded by politicians who represent corporate donors. If you want social workers to stay, the political climate has to change so that the government truly helps its citizens.
Super informative! Thanks for the advice
Timothy James thanks for watching!
Caroina matty is Onto my home in
I am a Social work student and my practicum coordinator is the worst. Imagine this person is supposed to be an individually you should be able to talk to and feel comfortable with, instead this practicum coordinator fail me intentionally because I had to complain to the Head of the faculty for them. I had to endure classes where this person would make underlying remarks at me. I am so hurt over failing this course at the university, I am at they don't go against each other and I could end up being victimised again. When I was on my practicum I had to pay for everything out of my own pocket bus fare clothes and lunch. The practicum in my country is 8 months.
What are those who’ve quit doing instead?
I used to be a recruiter and now I’m a real estate agent!
Some die because they're whistleblowers
Sigh 🙃 I’m doing the opposite of everyone in these comments I’m transitioning to this field because I always wanted to go into and I never did due to the negativity I got from
Everyone about It I graduated with another degree and now I feel unfulfilled and I have a lot of regret and what ifs
Great video ! You are gorgeous ❤
HI, I commented like 5 months ago I'm hoping if I could connect with you in some way or form because I would love to know how you did how did your career jump? For me, I'm 34 and studying to try and do my social work national license now that I have my master's but I would love to get into another career.
Feel free to email me! kelseyswansongraf@gmail.com
@@kelseyswansongraf thank you!!!!
@@kelseyswansongraf thank u
so the issue here is just burnout? so just need to prioritize and better selfcare?
I think it’s a little bit deeper than that but to each their own.
How can you self care with the crazy amount of work that’s given to you ? You can’t. It’s taxing. It’s def more than that
What type of social worker were you? There are many places a social worker can work, insurance companies, government, quality control, training. If someone just worked in child services, you can’t dismiss the whole career.
I worked in adoption and CPS. There are definitely avenues for everyone who wants to be in the field. I don’t think I dismissed social work as a whole, was just speaking from my experience/perspective and looking to help others who are in the same shoes I was in.
What job in this career field could you recommend for someone who is highly interested in psychiatric/mental health social work? Background: I recently obtained my BA in Sociology and am working full-time in special education, as well as in youth residential care. (I work with the most diverse population of traumatized adolescents. Can be very sad but also extremely fulfilling.) Also, I served 6 years in the US Army and consider myself to be a very emotionally resilient and reliable individual. I understand this career is not for everyone, however I just have a passion for it. The organization I’m currently with is amazing, however my BA degree only allows for so much advancement in my career here, or anywhere in Los Angeles county for that matter. I’m learning that for any long term career I’m going to need my MSW, or LCSW? I think it would be so cool to work in a Psych Hospital/Ward or any kind of highly demanding and stressful Mental Health facility. Any insights on this would be greatly appreciated!
What an awesome background! Honestly hearing you talk about the type of environment you want to be in reminds me of the hospital my fiancé works in - he’s a forensic psychiatric nurse and works at a mental health hospital/facility specifically with criminals with severe mental health diagnoses. When they’re deemed incompetent to stand trial, they go to his unit. Most of them are violent. Those kinds of hospitals also have social workers too. I assume it’d be required to have an MSW. I would only recommend pursuing an LCSW if you’re true interest is sitting down and doing actual therapy with folks. Your role is more so an actual therapist. Another area I could see you in is juvenile delinquency work - there’s a ton of need for social workers in that department at counties. If you’re not interested in criminology at all then I think continuing to work with adolescents in residential care or in a specialized school would be a great avenue! You’re right that MSW opens doors, but honestly I was surprised when I was out in the field how many of my peers did not have a masters degree. I hope this helps and thank you for the work that you do!!
@@kelseyswansongraf Kelsey, thank you so much for your sincere and thoughtful response. You’ve definitely given me a lot more to think about and consider. Got it, so LCSW not exactly relevant to or needed for what I’d like to pursue.
Forensics work sounds really cool, but not exactly in my interest, great recommendation though! I’ve considered looking into my local Youth Detention/juvenile facilities, perhaps I should actually do that now lol. And yes I still need to figure out whether or not a Masters program is even necessary for me and what I’d like to do. What jobs did your peers have that did not require an MSW as a prerequisite? If I intend to go into more advanced social work, compared to what I’m doing now, wouldn’t an MSW only benefit me in a variety of ways? Again thank you so much for taking the time to respond to my comment, absolutely very helpful!
Get therapy yourself then do therapy work outside the state or you'll be gagged by £££
Thanks for this video. I just started working in social work, about 4 months ago, but I'm already thinking about reevaluating my choice because of how emotionally taxing it is. How long were you working in that field? Also, can you do a video about your typical day in the recruiting field?
Latifa B thanks for the positive feedback! I was in the field for about 4 years total between all of my work experiences and field placements. I worked as a social worker while getting my MSW part-time, and then for a little over a year post-MSW. And that’s a good video idea! I can work on that. :)
New subbie here! Great video, Yes you are so right! I absolutely love the work that I do. I practice social work in the mental health field and I do classroom therapy and social work content videos. Would love to connect!
Lu’s Action Circle just subscribed!
Kelsey Marie thank you so much for the support! Will definitely stay connected!
Your are so open hearted
You’re gorgeous.
Im transitioning to the military. Good times.
Damn, you're pretty!
:)
May I ask which jobs can one change after worked as a social worker please?
I was a recruiter for 3 years and now I’m a real estate agent!
I am so stuck by my career choices because they revolve around the helping professions. I already have a bachelor's degree in nursing and considering an MSW with a MPH. Would I be better off in Macro Social Work due to the stress of Micro Social Work?
Tanya Hanson-Meier Honestly, I would only go back to school if you’re absolutely sure and have a clear direction/idea with what you want to do with it. If you’re open to it, maybe see if you can get an entry level social work related job just to see how you feel about it first. I know I wish after getting my BSW I had taken the time to just work before getting my MSW! I probably wouldn’t have even bothered getting the extra degree knowing what I know now. Everyone is different though. I wish you all the best!
Tanya Hanson-Meier but to answer your question more specifically, macro definitely has less stress in terms of direct patient/client care obviously. However it has its own challenges in terms of dealing with politics, slow moving policies/changes, etc.
@@kelseyswansongraf Thanks for your replies. I might see if I can get into Community Health nursing first since I already have that degree. But I have not worked as a nurse for 20 years. I was raising a special needs child instead so I thought of being a school social worker or a special ed school teacher as well.
Tanya Hanson-Meier you definitely have options!!
Maybe some one can give some advice. I am currently in my first quarter of a three year MSW program in Southern California. I thought I was set on this, but I am getting burnt out and really wondering if I see myself completing this whole three year program. It is a lot with the internship hours also. I know the MSW will open a lot of career doors, but it is also super
Expensive (like 75-80k). I have been accepted to a MBM program w/ entrepreneurship emphasis (18
Months and 30k). I am thinking about switching to this program, as I also have business dreams. Anybody have any tips ? Great video by the way !
If you're already burned out just a few months into a SW internship, ya you may want to reconsider. As an lcsw myself in So Cal, I can say it pays well in this neck of the woods compared to other states. But the burn-out is real
Hey Kelsey , I hope u would consider this question...
I took my BCA degree in India. ..but i wanted to go for MSW for my further studies abroad (Canada/US)..I just wanted to ask whether I would be able to go for that course(MSW/BSW) or anything related to it, despite taking a whole different course here.
Ps:Love your videos and am respecting your decision.
Mathews Varughese you definitely would be able to pursue your MSW, regardless of background! People come to the program with all different types of Bachelor degrees. The only difference is that it will take you longer to complete since you’ll have additional courses. For example in the states if you have your BSW, you can get your MSW in 1-1.5 years full-time or 2-2.5 years part-time. If you don’t have your BSW and pursue your MSW, that typically takes about 2 years full-time or 4 years part-time. Good luck!! :)
That is soooo hard, Mathews... I have Bachelor of Arts and currently doing Master of Social Work. A big mistake..... You have to "catch up" with three years of Bachelor degree somehow....And this is a "heavy" academic language... endless sociological theories....endless bla..bla..bla... "Bird's language" you never going to use. Nobody cares, nobody helps you.... Teachers say that you are already on Master level, so, you have to find answers on your questions yourself. Research the Internet - all answers there (there are the answers I have heard from our teachers). Think 10 times before making such a choice!
@@pearlshell8539 just like what I am doing now🤣
@@annann_114 Where at? Sorry for you. That is a very hard....
All these ppl in the comments with personal trauma going into the field to "help" is a problem. Rather you admit it or not you are carrying a bias and you will cause harm even if its unintentional. Not just harm to families but to yourself
Most social workers have some trauma background to be able to empathise with clients. I guess what professional social workers do is they don't bring that into their practice and leave all their own problems at home. Social workers that can't make the separation don't generally last.
People will never understand the torment of people like you not hurting the parent as much as the child on a mental level learning everything with your parents then getting ripped away from them then enter the system and gets reprogrammed another way then that fails confusing the child in the long end not fair mentally to the child at the end
I am scared when I do my internship. I was told I would be by myself during the whole thing. How do I do that without training or help?
Hmmm typically you do have some training/guidance as well as a designated person to help with any questions...I hope that ends up being the case for you❤️
@@kelseyswansongraf we have like a class that goes with it but I thought I would be on a team or something.
Yea ima just stick with my computer information system major i was thinking about social work but not anymore lol
She worked in one of the lowest paid, high burn out areas of social work. Her experience and job is not the norm for many, many social workers.
Bloom Gaming what are some good high positions in social work that doesn’t have high burn out. I don’t really like the computer field it’s so boring. Plus I could easily get my msw in 6 months because of my school program
@@updateserver It depends what you define as good paying. 100k+ would be a successful private practice, high level management positions or teaching at universities.
Bloom Gaming okay because I stay down south and I know they pay more up north but I don’t plan on moving soon. I was thinking about being a school social worker but idk I do like the classes and the concept of everything.
@@updateserver there are so many aspects and opportunities in social work. School social work, social policy, counseling, therapy, gerontology, other hospital jobs, VA, military, coordinator and so many more. Really check it out.
Im in a field that I can help people but kind of business. Setting in a clinic. I always want to help people in vulnerable. So I was thinking about social work.
A LCSW RUINED my family. I thought getting a Gaurdian Ad Liedem would be a good thing in my dispute with my ex over our kid but it turned out to be a LCSW, turns out they made things WORSE. They spent very little time with the child and was just throwing all these diagnosis on her. If you ask them ANY questions they give you a canned over educated answer. You can't understand what they are talking about and the results speak for themselves. If you think being a Social Worker does not entail doing more harm than good at times, you are BLIND. Also they charged $250 an hour for a report that relied mostly on one sides story. It was a joke and the LCSW was obviously against Men, cause that is what "Social Work" is about now. She did nothing to try to help the child maintain a relationship with the father. The sad part is these people will never take responsibility for the outcome, they always hide behind their over-educated speak and "doing their job". Please find another career.
Thank you for your insight. How does work life balance compare between the two professions? I have been strongly considering a career in recruiting.
Personally, I think it really depends on the person and the boundaries you set for yourself. But in terms of emotionally draining, social work definitely was more.
I just have a quick question. Is it possible to find a good job without a masters degree and license? I will be completing my BSW but I know I do not want to go back for more schooling. Please help!
I would say there is opportunity depending on what region/location you’re in. As well as speciality. It really depends!
I need your help to see my son please.
Good luck with your son
Hi Kelsey,
I recently just completed my bachelors in social work and now I am just wanting to gain experience in an entry level job in social work but I’m starting to feel like my masters in social work isn’t that worth it so I’m thinking about doing my masters in something else but except I wouldn’t have job experience in that field so really I’m stuck on not knowing what to do if I plan on switching careers later down the road
Stephanie Kurian that’s hard, I guess my overall advice in that scenario would be not to get a masters until you’re more sure of what you want to do long term! It’s a huge investment.
Kelsey Swanson Graf
Thanks for the reply! The reason why I’m considering changing in careers is because I come to realize that I don’t want to be in a job where I have to travel on the road and use my car for it to run mileage and gas and I know that some agencies give you a car but honestly speaking I don’t like doing home visits that scares me and I’m kind of a bad driver at that but I honestly still loved what I learned in social work so what do you think? Should I still stay in the field? Cause I do have an interest in IT and HR but I don’t know where to start in that field since I didn’t get a bachelors degree in it
Stephanie Kurian I think there’s definitely some social work specialities that don’t require you to do home visits/use a car, for example working in a hospital. If that’s the sole reason why you’re looking to make a move you just might be in the wrong specialty. But the population you’re serving should be of interest as well!
I dont agree that they should get a break a lcsw ,,, i have a clinical social worker that has been on the field for 36 years pretty soon she will retire,,but never she got a break or quit cause she found out that she stuied for that field that she loved and never quit....for me if you study for soemthing and then realize your dont like that field once your in and quit ....is like playing a game of children that they dont know what they want even tough your an adult now..
Great!!!
I'm coming close to my graduation, and I'm finishing my grad school in social worker studies; I'm curious what did you jump too? Did it work? How did you start over? I keep thinking I could be a therapist, but I also feel if I can get out with a head start, that would be wonderful any advice? YES love this video YES YES YES YES!!! I go to a therapist, and I loved it, and I wanted to become a therapist myself, but I realized it takes a lot to be a social worker, and I'm natural at it, but I don't want to do it. What did you switch to how, and how did you get there? I was thinking of becoming an academic advisor or HR. And how did you get to the business sector? What did you do? I'm fascinated by this because I don't know how to get out.
Thanks so much for this comment! I plan on re-vamping my channel and diving into all of this so stay tuned! :)
@@kelseyswansongraf will do Subscribed looking forward to it!
How can i meet with you?
Why would someone waste their lives as a means for a wasted life to waste their life further?
What kind of work do you do now? I am looking for something like you since you are my twin. Lol
Emily Bartchy I’ve been a recruiter for an IT consulting firm the past couple years but got my real estate license right before COVID hit. My goal is to be full-time in real estate by early next year if not sooner!
It's Corrie
I'm into my 4th week in the Bachelor of Social Work Degree at university not realising I had my first assignment overdue which threw a spanner in the works. This was a perfect insight into what Is now expected of me as I can now include the pro's, con's and the outcome of Why I chose to study Social Work in the first place. Now I finally understand why I joined the profession in the first place.
Then study regulatory law to find out how Corrie the lawyers are...
I think she is looking way way too much into such small detail and what others think. She can still help others in her new job and give great advice . I don't think she is really bringing up irrelevant issues. I'm confused is to what she is trying to say.
Hey harvaven
I withdraw my like ... because I thought this was going to be a exciting video
Nooooooo!!!😭😭😭😭
Social work stinkssss
yeah yeah