Play the lyre Aklot & Cega Lyre Review
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- Comparison and personal review on my Aklot and Cega Lyres
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This is just an honest review based on what I know and personally experienced with the two lyres that I own.
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Thank you so much for a very thorough review. Very useful information before I buy a lyre. I admire you for being able to play a harp. I love listening to harp music.
You’re welcome ❤️
Thank You Sharon. I love my Cega. I loved the padded black case and the full set of replacement strings too. It also had a dust cloth and stickers for tabs And a book with a few tab songs. Although I prefer Reading music like the harp. Tabs are good for people who play kalimba to transition to the lyre. Great review. So helpful
Thank you Connie. I love these too💞
Where did you get yours? I ask, because sometimes the accessoires are not the same quality. Thx!
@@cutechiangels My wood Cega was given as a gift. I do not know the particular merchant but it was from Amazon. When you do a search be sure to read all accessories and scroll all the way down for the complete description.
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Thanks Connie, I'll do so! But, it seems that one sometimes doesn't receive what the description says. That's why I asked. Have a good day. 🤗
Very nicely explained. Thanks, I was wondering which one to buy and trying to figure out the size of those two lyres. I was going for the smaller one since it was less expensive. But I see your point, the strings are very spacious in the bigger one. Which is good. Thanks for explaining once again. It was very useful. Its nice that you are already a harp player. I have no idea about this instrument but I am fond of it.
You are so welcome. I'm so glad that you found the clip useful. They are both very good instruments. The bean lyres tend to have better spacing in general. 💕
Cega is good ya alkot is good ???? pl tell me n which cheapest ??? n both vegan product ?????
THANK YOU SOOOOOOO MUCH FOR THIS REVIEW!!!!! I am considering both options on AMZ right now and you have helped me SOOOO MUCH by giving me so much honest info and lots of details that I can hear and see to consider. I want both and was going to buy the one with the antlers first but now I think I will do the reverse! Thanks again!
You are most welcome. I'm glad to be of help. Both instruments have been really good for me and I have no complaints on either one. Wishing you all the best.
Do you still enjoy the Lyre with the deer opening that is bigger? I think you called it Cera Lyre?
Thank you, Sharon. I bought my Aklot Deer head lyre flute a month or so ago before I saw this review. I wish I'd seen it, because I am also finding the spacing a bit tricky.. It's doable, but tricky, but I also made my decision on my first purchase based on cost, as I honestly didn't know if I'd ever play it.. I am a wooden flute player, but I've always loved the harp but I'm realistic about a real celtic style harp being out of my reach and skill level :D I will look very carefully at a Cega, too, as this little Aklot has a very pretty sound (I've had many adult friends just want to sit and pick the strings quietly and they love it) and my little granddaughter has already looked longingly at it. I'm heading off to join one of your very helpful looking groups now, as this is a sweet little instrument is worthy of focus on learning how to play it :D Thank you :)
You're welcome. I love the sound of my Aklot lyre too that's why I kept it even after purchasing the Cega Lyre. It's very well made for the price and it keeps in tune. I find the glide technique works better with the Aklot, if you want to give that a try. The string spacing being too close makes it harder to pluck with fingers without touching the other strings and causing to buzz but with practice I'm sure it would be very doable as well. 💕
Excellent review! I have the Cega 19 string in blue. I’m just learning to play, and I appreciate your honest feedback on both lyres.
You're very welcome. Thank you for watching ❤️
Very thorough comparison! Thank you, Sharon.
Thank you so much Monique 💞
I played a harpsicle many years ago, and have recently purchased a lyre to;see how I like it. As I, too, am used to colour coded strings, I loved your idea of using nail varnish. As I don’t wear it anymore, I coloured the C and F pins using permanent sharpies! Works great! Thanks for the tip!
Excellent review, exactly what I was looking for to help me decide which model to upgrade to in the future. Thank you!
You're welcome. I'm so glad you found it useful ❤
This was so informative. It answers my questions if I will buy 24 string lyre. Thank you so much... ❤️❤️❤️
Very glad that the video helped. I just got a 24 string solid body lyre and am planning on doing a comparison between my cega 19 and the new one soon. :)
HI!
Thank you for such an informative and honest review! I was quite lost after looking for lyres online... thats the only option from where Im based, Bangladesh. Since I stumbled upon your video I have much clarity about how to pick the right one !!
Loved your review, you are part of my musical journey now as I decided to buy the Cega bean shaped harp.
Much much love.
You’re welcome. I hope you enjoy learning to play the lyre ❤️
Thank you. I was already concerning buying the cega so thanks for the info.
You’re welcome!
Thx Sharon for the good review. Especially, 'cause it's your 1st!
Just a little note: the background sound, radio or so, makes a strange bubbling noise, which deforms your voice a little. And the volume is not high enough.
Keep it up! 👌
Hi Sharon. Great review. I too use an Aklot 16-string but in a different design. The strings are too far apart for my taste and I find it limits my speed. When you showed the Cega up close, I was surprised that they could be further. I'm just curious, are the strings in a harp even further apart than the Cega?
Hi Samantha, I had an Aklot bean lyre for a few days and then exchanged it for the deer head because I found it hard to access all the strings with my left hand. The string spacing on the bean lyre are wider than the deer head but not knowing much I thought it was better to exchange one with better access to all the strings. I think the Cega Strings are not that much wider than the Aklot Bean lyre, it is just more evenly spaced. Both of my harps has wider string spacing than the Cega lyre 💞
@@learningthelyreharp Thanks for the explanation!
About 10 mins ago I purchased a Panda Drum and in the Shop sellers list was this exact Lyre. I don't know how to play a Lyre but I can play a guitar. I got the drum for my channel and wish to add to it more sound and give my channel a peaceful environment where people can relax while watching my content. This video just cemented my need to purchase this instrument. I'm so excited thank you Sharon ♥Scribed!
So excited for you. I'm sure you'll enjoy playing the lyre. ❤
Thank you, Sharon. I appreciate the review. I'm also a harpist who is thinking about getting a Lyre.
You're welcome 😊❤
Hello Sharon, I was wondering how do people (like you) deal with the fact that these lyres have different orientations. I mean, for example the Aklot lyres have the deep tones/strings close to your body and the the higher ones are away from your body, so to play from lower notes to the highest, you proceed from left to right, just like on piano (thats why this orientation is very natural and easy for me). However, if I want to transition to Chromatic lyres one day, I need to learn to play in the "opposite direction" it seems, that is, from right to left, and I can see that this is going to be super difficult to re-wire my brain to do that. What is your experience with this? As a harpist, I guess the Cega lyre setup would be natural for you, while the Aklot type would feel unnatural or difficult to play. Or maybe it was not a big issue for you? Thank you in advance!
My approach is simple in that music rarely ever goes only one direction and it is a benefit to play both. I think it strengthens weak areas for me such as playing downward arpeggios because if I'm using a lyre with the opposite string orientation to harps I'm forced to practice that more. Also it's good to challenge the mind and rethink of new ways to adapt, rethink and learn skills. I don't see it as a challenge at all, although it maybe so at the start, but once you get used to switching back and forth, it's not a problem at all. The only thing that I still find challenging is the string spacing on my deer lyre being too close together. Hope this helps.
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@@learningthelyreharp Thank you very much for your quick reply! I am glad to hear it may not be as difficult as it seems, so maybe I will give it a try, and order an "opposite" one. :-)
I'm laughing because I had the exact same thought "I need access from both sides!!!" This is a useful tutorial, thanks
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Thank you so much for the review. I learned so much 🎉
You’re welcome ❤️
Thanks for the review. It has been really helpful!
You're welcome. I'm so glad you find it helpful ☺
was planning on buying a Aklot but like you the spacing (specially with my fat fingers) might be difficult but this would be my first one so who knows thank you so much though I love reviews on something before I buy it
You're very welcome. Thank you for checking out the videos. Always good to do research before we buy. I'm so glad that you found my video helpful 💗
Buen video informativo. Para no afinar tu lira con sostenidos o bemoles, puedes transcribir la canción C mayor y estará en la tonalidad de la lira.👋
I've been considering the 32 string chromatic lyre by Miloo, but I can't find many reviews on it
Sorry I have never heard of them. My chromatic lyre is made by Anton Lyre. The only other lyres I’m familiar with are Auris and Atelier Delos because I considered them when I was deciding where to purchase. There is also a Chinese made chromatic lyre now available on Amazon with a brand called ZSDM, two members of the Facebook group has this lyre. There is a chromatic lyre group on Facebook and some of the members there may know more.
Thank you very much for your informative video.
I would like to have heard the sound played.
You're welcome. Sorry this was my very first video on lyres. I do have other videos where you can listen to them being played. They sound very close. The Cega has a bit more resonance because it is bigger.
Thank You!🤗🌼🌹 so helpful..Could You put up a beginner video? 🤔😊
Thank you for commenting. I'm working on video tutorial for beginners and am following a sequential order, right now I just released a couple of reading notes. There is also a tutorial out for Sakura, beginner version. If you are interested, I have posted a few guides on the site. The video's I have so far are all there as well. If you are on FB, I usually post updates there for the lyre group. All the links and details are on the description. 💕
Thank you for this it looks so awesome :)
Thank You. Very useful video. I think I'm gonna buy a Cega😊
Glad you found this helpful ❤️ Thank you for watching .
I have a 7 string pentatonic lyre carved by myself in the Nisoria workshop (which I love!) and was thinking to try my hand at playing more melodies. Nisoria has a wonderful 12 string diatonic lyre, that sounds beautiful, but I was wondering, would it be enough, or is it better to look at 16/19 string ones? Thank you! 🌸
Nisoria makes beautiful quality instruments. There are lots of songs that use only twelve notes and if you are creative you can compose your own tunes. If you want to play popular music or classical it will need more strings or again adjust and improvise with the strings you have to create your own version of the song
Thank you so much Sharon ! And thank you for your reply on the other video about the side where are the high and bass notes ... I'm releaved to see that the strings can be in the same way that on the harp so, I'm thinking that I will be able to ask to the harp players I know if I have question ... I also see that your videos are well explained and clear ! I think that I will try to buy one and learn with you 😊.I'm though realizing that on Amazon, which is the easiest way to buy from, they have only Gega with 21 strings. I hope that they are not too different from yours 🤨 Have a nice day 🙏
I have a Cega 21 too and it's one of the ones I play the most :)
@@learningthelyreharp Thanks !! and as you say in another video, if this lyre is good for you, it will be good for me ☺😍
Good job. I just bought the d lyre and this was really helpful. Where is your music as li play the harp too and I want sheet music to play on the lyre. Thanks again. Fiona
Thank you for watching. Most of my music sheets are distributed to Patreon members at the moment. A fee are in buy me coffee. But if you play the harp most of the beginner songs for harp are playable on lyre too as long as the notes are within the range
@@learningthelyreharp I have found that music books geared towards the diatonic harmonica are perfect, as they are in the key of C with no sharps or flats to worry about! Amazon has a good selection - the best I found is “First 50 songs you should play on harmonica”.
@@cathychurch9974 that’s wonderful ❤️
For a beginner and a right handed, which is better between the 2? I think the high and low notes are also oppositely placed in that 2 lyres. I also like the idea of transitioning into harp sometimes with the high notes usually placed closer to the player. So, which is better in that case?
Both will work for right handed. The choice is really dependent on preference. Those that also play the harp or looking to move up to a harp or chromatic lyres will prefer the Cega orientation where the highest notes are closer to the body because that's how harps and chromatic lyres are designed. As well the Cega has wider string spacing so it can be played more like a harp. The Aklot string orientation works for those that are happy to stay with diatonic lyre and are coming from other instruments like guitar, ukulele or even piano. The string spacings on the deer lyres are tight so picking with nails/picks tend to be the better approach. I still play with my fingers as I prefer this and am just very careful not to touch other strings to prevent buzzing. Hope this helps :)
Thank Your Sharon what great review I have been wondering if I should begin to play around with one I am a beginner with he harp (1 year) I just don't want to get myself all mixed up I am not a person who plays by ear so what would you suggest... would it be a headache to just play around with this instrument along with learning the harp or should I just stick to the harp for now. I do not really have much music background although I have taught myself to play some hymns, songs on the piano from lessons I had over 25 years ago. I am now learning theory with my harp teacher which I think would help me to recognize chords etc. (I think you are in a group "Learning the harp" with Christy Lynn to which I too am a member.) Your input is appreciated Thank You
Hi Ruth. Yes I'm one of the moderators for LTHT group. I think you are selling yourself short. Being able to teach yourself piano and now playing the harp proves you are very musical. I don’t play by ear either and mostly rely on sheet music. Music theory applies to all instruments and doesn't change. The only thing that changes is how you apply it based on the type of instruments ie. C triad chord will always be CEG just strummed, plucked, hammered based on the instrument being played. Harps and lyres are so closely related that you can transfer your learning from one to the other. Just keep in mind that lyres are much smaller so we cannot expect it to sound and be played exactly like a harp unless you are getting something like a Linda Lyre from Music Makers. I find my lyres so portable and easy to play that I take it out a lot with me. ❤
It was so helpful. Thanks!
Thank you. So glad you found it helpful 🌸
Thank you for the video sharon! I've been trying to buy a cega lyre, but I don't know where to buy it from, can I ask where you got yours?
I got mine from Amazaon Canada, I was going to get you the link but it seems they are out of stock. I did find another brand that looks the same and half the price. I'm not sure if it would be the same quality though. Here is the linke anyway for that one www.amazon.ca/Muslady-Instrument-Garland-Cleaning-Beginners/dp/B08YJLYFGS/ref=sr_1_10?dchild=1&keywords=lyre+16-19&qid=1623275450&s=musical-instruments&sr=1-10
Thank you for this! I’ve been looking into getting a lyre recently and I had no idea where to start d(￣ ￣) I think a Cega is more for me so thank u so much!!
You're welcome! All the best to you and can't wait to hear you play 💕
Thank you. It's very helpful
I'm so glad you found it helpful. Thank you for leaving your feedback 💕
Thank you so much for creating this video.
Thank you for watching and leaving a note. ❤🙏❤
You should play a song on each one or a part of a song. Just a glissando Is not enough to tell the difference. Good info
Thank you for watching and leaving your feedback. This is the very first time I have ever done a review. I'm still learning and your comment is so helpful to me🙏😊
Hi Sharon, for a beginner, I have no music background. Should I get a 16 or 19 string lyre harp? Thanks!
If you are planning to play more melodically, the more string the better. The price difference I believe between the 16 and 19 string lyres are not that much so if you are able to, the 19 string would be my vote, either way though both will help you get the basic and are both great for learning the lyre. Hope this helps :)
Thank you! I have a quick question. I recently purchased a Cega but one of the tuning pins will not stay. I tune it and watch it turn the opposite direction preventing it from staying tuned. G4 specifically. Is this normal? What can I do? Thanks!
This is not normal. Unfortunately with the low end instruments the quality assurance is not always the best. If you would like to fix it I have posted a clip on how to do this. Just keep in mind to be very sparing with the glue, the goal is not to glue the pin, only to make the saw dust stick enough to tighten the hole. We need to be able to still turn the pin to fine tune. Here is the link: th-cam.com/video/40jQsL00tgg/w-d-xo.html Alternatively, if you are still within the return/exchange time policy you can look into that. I was very lucky with my Aklot and Cega that I have no issues at all with them. Hope this helps 💗
This video very good and help me to chose my lyre
Thank you for watching :D
Thank you for your video, Sharon! Can you share where you've bought those lyres? Import fees are very expensive in my country and since I can't find anywhere to buy here, I'm forced to import online. I'v found a Cega Lyre quite similar to yours, but I'm worried I'd buy a product that looks like yours, but definately doesn't sound like it, or can't be tunned, or the tunning changes as you tune the other strings. I've read a lot of that online ! A trustworthy buyer would be exactly what I need to start playing !
Thanks again for your videos!
We are the same in Canada. There are no actual stores that sells these so we are also forced to gamble and buy online, site unseen. I purchased all of my lyres from Amazon Canada because they have a great return/exchange policy in case I get one that didn't work. One of the key reasons I bought both of these brands is because they have great reviews and they fit my budget and needs. I have not been disappointed at all by both brands. They both keep tune very well once the settling period (about 2 weeks) are done. I just played my Aklot lyre yesterday and barely had to tune it after weeks of not playing. My Cega lyre I play consistently and it also keeps in tune. We also have a few people in the group that have purchased these brands and are very happy with them. Donner is also another brand that members have and works for many but I don't have this one so I can't give personal feedback. The worst lyre I have owned is the Molin Lyre. It has taken a lot of fixing to get it to work. Although the sound is quite nice, it doesn't keep tune which makes me sad. It is playable but not reliable like the Aklot and Cega in my experience.
@@learningthelyreharp thank you for taking a time to answer me ! I agree with you 100% What you described is very helpful! I'm just confused about one thing: is Cega the actual manufacturer? I've found a lot of Miaoqian Cega Lyres. Or Yaochen Cega Lyres. I'm not sure if those are replicas. Or maybe those are the name of allowed manufacturers. I wasn't able to find Cega Official Store on Amazon, but I did find the Alibaba official Cega store and sent them a message. I'm quite confused. If I'm worried I'll buy a bad product that looks like a Cega Lyre but doesn't play like one. Thanks again for your help! I was feeling really lost, but I'm resolute I'll buy it !
Cega is just a brand and like many Chinese mass produced products distributors buys them in bulk and resell online and may even change the brand name.
@@learningthelyreharp Wow, thank you for that information! That is exactly what I needed to buy the Yaochen Cega lyre harp without being worried it'll be an unplayable instrument !
Thank you for this review. I am completely new to these instruments. Probably daft questions, but are your lyres steel strung or nylon strung? And I’ve noticed that some have the shorter higher stings on one side and some on the other side. Are there left hand and right handed lyres?
No such thing as daft question. Yes my lyres are wire strung. Most modern lyres are strung with wire strings. Alternative strings such as nylon would often be stated right on the description to highlight this. There are different string orientation, not because it's left handed or right handed but it's just how the manufacturers made them. Both styles are still played with the right hand. Those that play harp will prefer the highest sounding notes closer to them, where as those coming from another instrument like guitars and ukulele might prefer the bass notes closer to them. It's really just a matter of preference. The 19 strings and up are typically oriented same as harps and all chromatic lyres are also set up with high strings played close to the body.
@@learningthelyreharp Thank you. I am mainly coming from classical guitar so nylon strings and bass under the thumb feel more natural. Having looked though, it seems that there are more instruments with steel strings rather than nylon, so I might give one of those a try first.
@@iamthereforeimustbe You're welcome. Nylon strings are harder to come by and they tend to be more expensive but they are available, just have to look a bit longer. :)
Kinnor lyre has nylon strings it is a 7 string lyre from walter or muzzikon or mid east
@@learningthelyreharp Thanks so much for this extra information, it is really useful to know (I also thought this might mean one was left handed, one was right handed). Do you not find it hard to switch from one string orientation to another?
Very useful review, thanks a lot !
You're welcome. Thank yo for watching :)
very nice nice nice explanation ❤❤❤❤😊
M from india n nothing in indian teacher so pl u learn me ?????? Then i buy this harp i like very much ❤
Adorei sua resenha, também tenho pensado em comprar uma lira. Obrigada por todas as informações ❤
You’re very welcome ❤️
@@learningthelyreharp obrigada 😊
Thank u for this review, I have seen there is an aklot model that has an output jack so you can amplify the sound, does the cega also allow for amplification ?
Mine did not come with one but you can get a contact mic piezo pick up. Some of the musicians in our group have done this and have had good results.
@@learningthelyreharp that is a great idea thank u for the suggestion!
Very detailed video, thank you for sharing.
What type or brand lyre you would recommend for a beginner who've never played any instrument before?
For diatonic ones, I like my Cega and Aklot lyres. These are budget friendly and so far I've had no issues with them after they have settled. I can't speak about other brands because I don't have them. If you're on Facebook, check out the FB group and post the question there so you can get other opinions. 😀
@@learningthelyreharp Thank you for the information :))
Still looking for the Lyre I'd like to buy. I have a question, I imagined yhe left hand being able to reach the lowest noyes would make sense. Left hand playing the bass and right hand playing the melody. Doesnt that make sense? Perhaps you could twll us why this is not necessary, actually. Thanks! Love the video!
Left hand playing the bass is the traditional way of playing especially if you choose to use harp style plucking method. For other methods it is not necessarily the same. For example, in strumming method, the role of the left hand is to mute the notes not needed in a chord while the right hand strums the chord notes. In kora method, both the thumbs play. The the strings are divided into two sections from the middle and the right thumb plays the right side and the other the left section. In glide method, mostly for chromatic, each finger is assigned a note to play on a scale and they play melody and bass together. Most lyres are small instrument that it is also possible to play melody and bass with just one hand and one can choose which hand to play and which one to hold it. Hope this helps
I notice that with some of these bean lyres they face different ways. Which should you look for if you’re right handed? Does it matter? Just curious because I want to get one.
it's only a matter of preference. I'm right handed and have both style and play them. You may want to think about the future. If you are looking to play a harp or step up to a chromatic lyre, then you would want the lyre that is strung the same way to transition easily.
Thank you for this helpful review! :-)
You are so welcome. I'm glad you found it helpful. Thank you for watching and leaving feedback 💞
Very helpful, thank you.
Thank you for watching ❤️
Thank you, it was very useful!
Thank you for watching ❤️
We heat with wood, so our house does not maintain an even temperature is that going to make it even more difficult to keep it in tune? I have never played a stringed instrument before.
I'm not 100% sure. We have central heating. You just may need to tune a bit more times than others. If you have Facebook do join the group. Perhaps some of the members have wood heaters as well and would be able to share their experience with you and provide suggestions. 😊
thank you for the video. Why are both lyers have different string order: one is from up down the other from down up. Which one is better choice?
It's the way the makers design them. I'm right handed and so prefer the Cega Lyre because it is easier for me to pluck the melody with my right hand. The strings are also in the same order as as harps which I'm used to. I personally think the Cega is better not only because of the string orientation but because of the spacing. It makes it easier to play without accidentally touching the other strings and cause buzzing.
@@learningthelyreharp I see. Thank you so much.
@@queengohar8842 you're welcome 🌸
I have the exact same Cega one, it beautiful but there's one problem, I can't tune the F3 string correctly, it buzzes and its quite loose. This can be just for mine but yeah...
Are you on Facebook? One of our members had a buzzing issue and she shared a link to a video that helped her. We saved it under the guide. It might be helpful. I don't have buzzing on mine. 🙂
Very good. Thank you very much 😊
You're welcome. Thank you for watching ❤️
Hi Sharon I Have The 19 String Cega Lyre Too But My Lyre's Bridge Is More Curved And Yours Is less Curved, Does IT Affect The Sound?, And I'm Afraid That Mine Is Fake.
They do make updates on the instruments so yours could just be a newer version. My lyre is a few years old now.
@@learningthelyreharp okay thank you!! (◡ ω ◡)
how many strings is the cega lyre you are showing?
This Cega lyre has 19 strings
What would you suggest for someone starting on terms of 16 string or 19 string? I'm struggling to decide...
It will depend on your experience with stringed instruments and what you are used to and where you want to go. Most 16 lyres have the strings with lowest note close to the body. As a harpist. I didn't like this orientation because it is the reverse of harps. The 19 strings and above seem to be the only ones with same string orientation as harps which is why I got mine. Also, if you are thinking of using the diatonic lyre and moving up to chromatic, which I'm thinking of doing at some point, the 19 string is the same orientation. It would be hard to think and play the opposite way down the road. But if you are not thinking of moving up to a harp or chromatic lyre or even more string diatonic lyres then 16 string is a good one to get. Hope this is helpful
@@learningthelyreharp wow thank you I really appreciate all your help. I hope you don't mind me asking 1 more question?
So would the 16 string be diatonic and the 19 string be chromatic, and what exactly does that mean for the range of music and sounds on the lyre? I've researched whay diatonic and chromatic are but still not sure how they would effect the lyre?
In terms of playing, I'd get pretty frustrated if I was hearing a sound or note in my head but not able to play it on the lyre cuz it wasn't there. I'd like to possibly move up to more advanced lyres later on but thats later on.
Thank you for allowing this space for questions ❤️
@@YNOTwander both 16 and 19 strings are diatonic. I believe entry level chromatic starts at 30 strings and are at least 10x the price. Chromatic lyres are set up like a piano with flats and sharps readily available. Diatonic, you would have to tune to the scale in advance. I have a video on chromatic vs diatonic lyres on YT as well as a guide on the website that might help. Sounds like you want to play more melodically, I would lean towards the 19string if this is the case. Here is the YT link th-cam.com/video/XefI_Eick74/w-d-xo.html
@@learningthelyreharp ok awesome thank you so much, i really appreciate it😊
@@YNOTwander You're so welcome. I'm glad I'm able to help. Goodluck with your lyre selection ❤
How many strings are on the Cega? And it it appropriate for a beginner?
This Cega has 19 strings and yes suitable for beginners, just keep in mind that it has the same string orientation as harps and chromatic lyres ❤️
I cant find a notes for my cega I'm a beginner😭 Cuz it's deffirent
This tutorial goes through the notes and lyre string relations. It might help you th-cam.com/video/6gcnZN03i6o/w-d-xo.html
Also if you are on Facebook, you can join the group and post a picture of your lyre and we can work on it together ❤
I notice that there are no sharps or flats, is that an issue?
It all depends on the type of songs you want to play. There are a tonne of songs in C major and A minor that can keep us all busy learning and playing. Then you can also transpose many songs from another key to these keys. Learning to play in modes also opens up many more possibilities…so, having no flats and sharps can be a problem, but not so much if you can transpose to a different key or be creative and make the arrangements your own ❤
Very nice review. I just bought a 16 string lyre. I understand its limitations (I play keys and strings) but was wondering if there is anything that I can do to sharpen a note while playing.
The easiest way to sharpen/flatten is to tune the string(s) you need for the scale you need before playing. Unfortunately there is no room for levers on these diatonic lyres which makes it difficult to tackle accidentals. I generally ignore, omit accidental or choose to play a neighbor string, whichever one sounds the best to me for the song I'm playing. There is a point close ro the pins that you can push down on to produce a sharp note, but finding it quickly while playing, then applying the right pressure plus plucking the string is too much work and very unreliable on these lyres. Hope this helps ❤️
@@learningthelyreharp - It does. Thanks so much. Maybe I'll get a cheap chromatic one some day, but right now I think I'll just play in C, G, and D only two sharps to tune. 🙂
@@TRHARTAmericanArtist There are so many songs on these scales that I think would keep us very busy. Add the F major and Bb major to your list too. only 1-2 flats. I generally would play a bunch of song in the same scale for a while so I don't have to keep retuning :) Have fun! :D
@@learningthelyreharp Thank you. You are very kind.
@@TRHARTAmericanArtist You are most welcome :) I hope you have lots of fun with your new lyre :)
Can you use nylon strings with it?
I did change the strings on my Cega Lyre to see if nylon strings would work and how it would sound. It was a lot of work and in the end I didn't like the change. The higher notes sounded a bit plingy and it was hard to keep it in tune. I have changed it back to wire. It sounds better to me this way.
I am lefty, what type of lyre would you recommend for me?
I'm not left handed so am hesitant to give an advise here. My good friend is and she started with the 19 strings with no issues but then later on decided to get the 16 strings and loves it. I play with both hands and prefer my 19 strings. I have recently purchased a 7 string pentatonic and really loving it. I know it's not a direct answer but I do feel it is based on preference and what one is logically used to with other instruments they also play and not so much which hand is stronger because like piano or harp, both hands play.
Essa marca aí é melhor ou não e qual modelo comprar
These are both mass produced lyres and quality can be hit and missed. The ones I have are still working well and I have had no issues with them.
does plucking cega strings have to be from the left? sorry I meant I prefer to strum the strings in my right hand, do you have any lyre recommendations? I'm confused, I know that if i want to play music it's recommended to use 16 strings, but I only want to play it in my right hand, Playing in the left hand doesn't seem comfortable to me.. Sorry my English bad, But i need to know which harp should i buy
No not at all, you can use plucking technique with your instrument. It only means that the flow or direction of movement would be contrary. For example your thumb will be plucking lower strings and the motion would be more downwards. As an example C chord arpeggios we pluck from C then E and G. On my 19 string, I would start on C with my middle finger E with pointer finger and G with my thumb then roll up. On a 16 string we would lead with the thumb on C, pointer on E, middle on G and roll down. It still works. We also pluck in downward motion with harps because music goes up and down.
@@learningthelyreharp alright,thanks for the explanation. But lemme ask u one more question, Why do you prefer the 19-string harp to the 16-string harp? I'm just asking, sorry for asking too much
@@doublewwrazor I play the harp and the 19 string lyre orientation is the same as the harp. It is more natural for the fingers to roll up and the thumb to close down. The opposite motion takes a bit longer and more effort. It is not incorrect as we need to play down on the strings as well as up. Maybe I will create a short video to demonstrate the difference if this is too confusing
@@learningthelyreharp OoooO okay, Thanks again for your explanation😁😁 is it okay if i am a beginner learning lyre in 19 strings ? Or I should try the 16 string first?
@@doublewwrazor it all really depends on you. If you are wanting to play a harp or chromatic lyre down the road I would suggest 19 strings. Then you can take advantage the beginner plucking techniques for harps. If you want to follow lyre tutorials/players and learn from them most play the 16 string and use finger picking. Methods are different.
Where did you buy the bean shaped lyre?
I got mine from Amazon.ca because we don't have any music shops around me that sells lyres
the second one is the lyre i've been looking at - it looks REALLY polished, nice design, stunning (to me) versus the deer head design. i get why people might like the deer head but to me.... i just would rather a more traditional lyre top. (it's like meeting someone who is wearing cat ears. nothing wrong with it, per se, but.... we all have opinions on what that decision communicates to us.)
😅 I kind of liked the look of the deer head because it's funny looking and makes me smile 😃 In all seriousness I love both of these instruments because they keep relative tune and I've had no issues with them. I know there can be issues with mass produced products and I consider myself lucky.
@@learningthelyreharp ha ha yes the silliness factor! That’s what I was sort of angling towards. :D I love the sound of it but the tight spacing seems like it might be a bit challenging for a new player.
I’m actually trying to figure out my first lyre to purchase. So I’m going through a lot of videos and feeling a bit overwhelmed to be quite honest. :) I saw a beautiful two-tone liar, 27 strings, with a full deer etched on it. But it’s definitely a lot more money and a bit harder to come by. (By BYLA. I heard an amazing piece played on it, the sound was gorgeous. But there are so many knock offs, or so many sellers, I don’t know what is real.). The other one I am looking at is more modest in the number of strings, it too is a two-toned lyre and it has a deer head on it. (MIWAYER? & MOLIN?) and then the first one that ever caught my eye is a 19 string, available in an aqua blue, by CEGA. I just really want to get something that is playable, holds tune, and is decent quality. Of course liking the look of some thing ensures that you are more likely to play, so that is a factor. But I like how all of these look. Are you familiar with any of these? I’m just afraid of getting a knock off that doesn’t actually play well. Amazon has been less than good in that regard in the last few years. (usually I am buying art supplies, and they were notorious for having fakes). Thank you in advance, if you have a chance to answer this.
@@lurklingX I personally like Aklot and Cega brands because these are the ones I own and have been playing for a year now with no issues, knock on wood. Yes the string spacing on the deer head are very tight and don't work well for finger plucking method but it does work great for glide and nail picking methods (I don't do nail picking, my nails are kept short). The bean lyres definitely have better finger spacing. My Molin brand has given me nothing but troubles. I thought I could fix it but alas no and I have given up on it.
This is an old video and coming from the point of view of harpist who didn't really know much about lyres. 16-21 strings are usually the best for playing melodic songs. I find lyres with more strings don't really work well. The outer strings seems to be untunable and so defeats the purpose of having them.
You will find that in mass produced lyres they are likely coming from the same factories and so are made by the same people. I think the better branding just have stricter quality requirements so there are less chances of getting lemons. The Facebook group is very helpful with answers to questions if you are interested then you will get more than just my opinion 😉 👍
@@learningthelyreharp wow THANK YOU! I don’t actually use Facebook if I can help it, but everybody keeps mentioning that group, so it almost seems inevitable. That’s really helpful to know you had nothing but trouble with Molin, I will avoid that. My first love really was that Cega 😂. Does anyone really need an aqua blue heart? I don’t know, but I definitely want one. 😂 again thank you so very much for taking the time to answer. I think it will help me so much on my journey. I think it’s so important to get some thing workable for your first instrument in a different type. So you don’t run into frustration, disappointment, and FAILURE. i’m totally a fan of your reviews now, I’m actually watching one at the moment. :)
@@lurklingX I'm always glad to be of help. I always recommending buying from a place that has great return policy on lyres. Amazon is great for this as it's almost hassle free. It would be great if these can be popular enough to be sold at local music shops and people can try before they buy but until then unfortunately we have to continue to choose online and hope for the best. Wishing you all the best with your selection.
Ma’am do you accept online students po?
Nasa Pilipinas kaba? Sa Canada ako so the time difference may not work for you.
Taga US po ako :)) EST po time namin
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No, pues solo entendí #&€¥π£
XD en resumen, las diferencias y similitudes son que ambas tienen escritos los nombres de las notas pero la segunda tiene los nombres y el rango (más fácil para afinar), ambas son de madera, ambas mantienen afinadas por buen tiempo, la segunda tiene más cuerdas que la primera, la segunda tiene mejor resonancia, ambas son económicas. Yo compraría la segunda, me parece más completa.
Ah, y la segunda tiene más espacio entre cada cuerda.
Thank you so much for your help. I didn't understand the question. It is so good of you to summarize and help 💞