And there is not a thing wrong with it!! Old school is good school!!! Mine has over 200,000 and is a great ride and drive!!! Going to do everything I can to keep it going. That's the problem with everything today if its not broke DON"T FIX IT!!!
I don't know why he is ragging on this van so much. It is made for transporting a lot of people and a lot of things. It's not made to be a luxury van of any sorts. Naturally, it isn't going to be a super luxurious interior.
Dude! It's a VAN! Not a dinosaur... I love my 2009 Ford E150 XLT Premium Wagon. Bought it new in November 2009. 63K on it now and no problems. Runs like a top. Radio could be better and the hard plastic panels rattle in the back. I don't need backup camera but use the backup sensor daily. Very useful. This truck will right itself when in a snowy skid. Put snow tires on it and there you go for our NE winters. Thinking of buying a new one with Nav and Sirius. Thanks
I was in Puerto Rico in May and one of the tour guide taxi's drove us around in one of these but from the 90's. It had 500,000 miles on it and it was still on first engine!
I'm biased. I love my 2013 15 passenger. Constantly saying Old, Dinosaur, and Sluggish is annoying. I personally feel Ford did a good thing by holding on to the Crown Victoria's and E Series vans as long as they did. They were good, proven vehicles. Sad to see them go.
+Chris Roth Sometimes older is better than newer. In terms of how long they've been around. You know. I prefer the Econoline or the Transit. If I were to have a van of this size it has to have a Diesel engine.
The only Econoline you can buy new is the chassis cab and cutaway. Only available with E-350 and E-450 chassis. The engine choices are the 6.2 V8 and 6.8 V10 paired with a 6 speed automatic. However, the 6.8 V10 is going to be replaced by the new 7.3 gas V8 starting in model year 2021 and there will be a new interior update as well. You could technically weld on a wrecked Econoline van and weld the rear end on the cutaway Econoline if you wanted to.
I'm not sure why you keep calling it "old school" every 5 seconds. I find it annoying. If you don't like it, why review it? First of all, a live axle suspension is perfectly normal for a truck and a full chassis is normal for a commercial class vehicle. Having an independent rear suspension is not necessary for van. The smaller wheels means higher aspect ratio tires, i.e: 70 series of 75 series. That's exactly what you need for comfort versus handling. You certainly don't need 20 inch tires with 45 series tires in a top heavy van. You also keep mentioning high step in height, but that's no different than SUV's. The transmission having 4 gears is not the issue, the issue is the final drive ratio. You also have to talk about power to weight ratio. Clearly you don't understand the audience for this van.This vehicle fits a need that an overpriced SUV doesn't. It gives you transportation, or utility functionality from one vehicle. It's larger than a minivan. The 5.4 Liter is not big on horsepower, but more torque, which is what you need for a heavy vehicle of this size. You keep referring to it as a dinosaur. Why bother reviewing it if you despise it so much?
+Khalid Al I agree with you 100%. This guy is a MORON. Why bash a vehicle? He can't stand to drive a 5,000 lb NON-Luxury vehicle designed to do a JOB, and not designed to be a personal car? Clearly he doesn't know what commercial is. He is biased, and shouldn't even bother reviewing it!
Thank you for reviewing this vehicle. You're the only video on youtube that does LOL. Such a shame American automakers aren't investing in these types of vehicles. I like these better than the minivans. It's funny they're called minivans and vehicles like the E-150 are "large" vans when both classes are the same size now.
I had 2 models of these Ford and all i can say is theyre reliable and really comfortable ride especially the older model 2002. Their chairs are soft and really comfy. These Ford vans are really great and reliable. I dont care about you " Old School " description its the reliability and comfort were after. If you want one really High Tech ride a FLYING SAUCER. .
If your a fan of Retro than this is the way to go...Luv the retro stuff ditch the haters. keep the van, get rid of the host.. :-) kick him to the curb,
Understandable, if there is one message we like to portray to our subscribers, it's to keep an open mind, don't just favor a certain brand. Any manufacturer can make a great car if they put their minds to it, thanks for being a fan :)
Yeah it's older Ford, but I much prefer this to the Transits. Don't get me wrong, I think the Transit Connect is an awesome small van, but I think it's a royal shame that these went adios. I genuinely like how utilitarian, basic, large and "powerful" they were. Still, they're so commonplace that you'll find them used or CPO everywhere, so no biggie.
The appeal of this van is it's ability to haul a lot of people and stuff, it's ability to actually tow a decent amount, and the fact that it's a body on frame truck chassis which makes it very durable. This is a very utilitarian vehicle and as long as the consumer understands and needs that then they will like it. I think the review is fair because this is truly an old school vehicle compared to all of the new unibody vehicles that people drive today. This is different beast altogether. My fear is that if Ford does away with the Econoline and the new Transit has a pathetic tow rating (which it probably will) then Ford will be out of the true full size van market. That will leave Chevy and the new Nissan NV3500 HD. If you want to see a true beast of a full size van then take a look at the Nissan. That thing is no joke.
I use your youtube videos as my white noise to help me sleep at night. also I am autistic. i like 15 passenger vans, and Airbus A321 aircraft as a hobby.
Reviewers favorite 2 words are "old School". If your going to review a vehicle do a little homework. Front suspension is independent. It is the "twin I-Beam" system that is very heavy duty. It has been around since 1966 on ford trucks. It works well. That is why it is still being used on trucks. You mention engine is 5,4 Triton. WRONG! It is a 2 valve engine. Yes, this is an old thread but I just could not resist responding. I have a 2013 version of this van (with back up camera) and tow a 23" Airstream trailer. Piece of cake. 8600 LB GVW, 3700 LB front axle capacity, 5120 LB rear axle capacity, 2530 LB Cargo Capacity, 13,000 LB Combined Gross Vehicle Rating. The guy should not even be reviewing "Radio Flyer" kids toy wagon.
might be old school van but i still see lots of them on the road today. E150 and 250 cargo vans . 4.6 is very proven motor, my brother has a E150 2004 cargo van 4.6 never any issues,, still driving it,,
@@urielhernandezT150 Naah, the Ford Econolines are way far superior than the Transit. I know a technician at a Ford dealership and he totally agrees they are not great quality compared to the previous E-series vans. Plus the Transits are not very good looking trucks. Thanks
Ford should use sliding doors on all vans, not split doors. Ford should never call their van a wagon. Everyone knows a van has sliding doors and it's different than a station wagon. We want to see a full size van with dual power sliding doors and stow and go seating. We want the inside to be like a conversion van with a 3rd row seat that turns into a bed. We want see the full size family van back into the market place.
Needed a used reliable vehicle to tow 4 to 5000 pound trailer and carry 6-7 people and their stuff on trips. Pretty much only a full-sized SUV like Suburban/Expedition or a traditional body-on-frame was going to cut it. I didn't need 4wd. The fact that vans are generally uncool and SUV's are everybody's choice worked for me , I didn't care. So it was between 7-8 year old Ford or Chevy/GMC van. This is actually shorter than a full-sized SUV or pickup and that's nice. The ride isn't so good unloaded but I like it much more than I thought I would.
Our family bought a brand new 2002 E150 without the truck suspension, with leather, nice sound system, 2 flip down TV's in the rear w/VCR- DVD. He paid around 23K-28K for it and it's a wonderful vehicle with a hell of a lot more room and comfort then some over-priced mini-van yuppie mobile!! Americans are all image over substance and personally I like the more masculine styling of older vehicles. The only bad thing about the big V8 is the crappy MPG's with today's high gas prices.
And Dude! When you start the truck, let the motor lubricate itself before you floor it. Jeesh! Buy an Expedition if you're looking for luxury... Thanks
I'm going to have to disagree with your opinion on these vans with the 4.6. I have an 07 model e150 with the 4.6 and I find no difference between it and the 07 e350 5.4 that my parents own for hulling around the family, well aside from gas mileage.
The Econoline is going to be here for a few years after the Transit comes. Why does the "disclaimer" (why does a review need a disclaimer) advise against test driving cars?
I liked the old ford. True American cars, not some European Designed car. The only ford I would ever drive is a fiesta titanium, focus SE with apprence package, and f150 Ecoboost.
The front suspension is independent, do some research before you open tour yapper. The 4.6L is not gutless, I have the 215hp version with almost 200k con it and it still takes the van upto 60 in 10 seconds, which for 7,000 lbs is not bad. Don't complain about the van using a solid rear axle, it is designed for strength. It is an insult to say it is a dinosaur. You are not a van person, clearly. Funny though, the ones from the 90s are indeed better. 1997-1999 and the early 2000s. I'll agree with you on the interior.
No reason the seats are that close together you can easily space them and still have an enormous amount of space in the back ....like the g20s and vandura conversion vans even the older econolines have more space in between
i wonder why ford didn't update the power output in the e series engines. They are the old power outputs. The newest 3v 4.6 v8 produces 292 hp vs this 225 in the e series. Also, the newest 5.4 v8 produces 310 hp while this one is 255. The 6.8 v10 now produces 362 hp and 457 ft. lbs. torque while the 6.8 in the e series version produces 305 hp and 405 ft. lbs. torque. If Ford had simply put the updated engines in the E series in 2009 when they refreshed, I think they'd be much more desirable.
And there is not a thing wrong with it!! Old school is good school!!! Mine has over 200,000 and is a great ride and drive!!! Going to do everything I can to keep it going. That's the problem with everything today if its not broke DON"T FIX IT!!!
I miss those Econoline vans.
you can still drive them as class c RVs
I Also Love The Transit
But then they replaced it with those European Transit vans that are V6 or Diesel Inline-5.
I don't know why he is ragging on this van so much. It is made for transporting a lot of people and a lot of things. It's not made to be a luxury van of any sorts. Naturally, it isn't going to be a super luxurious interior.
built like a tank and reliable as hell miss these vans
Dude! It's a VAN! Not a dinosaur... I love my 2009 Ford E150 XLT Premium Wagon. Bought it new in November 2009. 63K on it now and no problems. Runs like a top. Radio could be better and the hard plastic panels rattle in the back. I don't need backup camera but use the backup sensor daily. Very useful. This truck will right itself when in a snowy skid. Put snow tires on it and there you go for our NE winters. Thinking of buying a new one with Nav and Sirius. Thanks
basic maintenance and you can put a 5 in front of your 63k.
@@Dogghousse yes ford is like that my dads explorer chasis had almost a mill miles very durable
Who knew the van will retain the value so well 9 years later. It is so crazy a used van costs about the same as the msrp 9 yrs ago.
I was in Puerto Rico in May and one of the tour guide taxi's drove us around in one of these but from the 90's. It had 500,000 miles on it and it was still on first engine!
Hi you was in Puerto Rico oh My God
I'm biased. I love my 2013 15 passenger. Constantly saying Old, Dinosaur, and Sluggish is annoying. I personally feel Ford did a good thing by holding on to the Crown Victoria's and E Series vans as long as they did. They were good, proven vehicles. Sad to see them go.
+Chris Roth Sometimes older is better than newer. In terms of how long they've been around. You know. I prefer the Econoline or the Transit. If I were to have a van of this size it has to have a Diesel engine.
The only Econoline you can buy new is the chassis cab and cutaway. Only available with E-350 and E-450 chassis. The engine choices are the 6.2 V8 and 6.8 V10 paired with a 6 speed automatic. However, the 6.8 V10 is going to be replaced by the new 7.3 gas V8 starting in model year 2021 and there will be a new interior update as well. You could technically weld on a wrecked Econoline van and weld the rear end on the cutaway Econoline if you wanted to.
They could have keep them but just offer the new 5.0 V8 and Ecoboost Models on these old But good old E Series Van.
I hear you brother.
@@_thebusphotograher_cali Definitely the Coyote V8 for sure.
I'm not sure why you keep calling it "old school" every 5 seconds. I find it annoying. If you don't like it, why review it? First of all, a live axle suspension is perfectly normal for a truck and a full chassis is normal for a commercial class vehicle. Having an independent rear suspension is not necessary for van. The smaller wheels means higher aspect ratio tires, i.e: 70 series of 75 series. That's exactly what you need for comfort versus handling. You certainly don't need 20 inch tires with 45 series tires in a top heavy van. You also keep mentioning high step in height, but that's no different than SUV's. The transmission having 4 gears is not the issue, the issue is the final drive ratio. You also have to talk about power to weight ratio. Clearly you don't understand the audience for this van.This vehicle fits a need that an overpriced SUV doesn't. It gives you transportation, or utility functionality from one vehicle. It's larger than a minivan. The 5.4 Liter is not big on horsepower, but more torque, which is what you need for a heavy vehicle of this size. You keep referring to it as a dinosaur. Why bother reviewing it if you despise it so much?
+Khalid Al I agree with you 100%. This guy is a MORON. Why bash a vehicle? He can't stand to drive a 5,000 lb NON-Luxury vehicle designed to do a JOB, and not designed to be a personal car? Clearly he doesn't know what commercial is. He is biased, and shouldn't even bother reviewing it!
Exactly. Trucks and vans are work vehicles, luxury cars/sedans are personal cars.
Exactly mate.
I love the sound from the 5.4
Thank you for reviewing this vehicle. You're the only video on youtube that does LOL. Such a shame American automakers aren't investing in these types of vehicles. I like these better than the minivans. It's funny they're called minivans and vehicles like the E-150 are "large" vans when both classes are the same size now.
I had 2 models of these Ford and all i can say is theyre reliable and really comfortable ride especially the older model 2002. Their chairs are soft and really comfy. These Ford vans are really great and reliable. I dont care about you " Old School " description its the reliability and comfort were after. If you want one really High Tech ride a FLYING SAUCER. .
If your a fan of Retro than this is the way to go...Luv the retro stuff ditch the haters. keep the van, get rid of the host.. :-) kick him to the curb,
Understandable, if there is one message we like to portray to our subscribers, it's to keep an open mind, don't just favor a certain brand. Any manufacturer can make a great car if they put their minds to it, thanks for being a fan :)
It starts and sounds just like the Crown Victoria, Grand Marquis & Town Car. Great van.
Yeah it's older Ford, but I much prefer this to the Transits. Don't get me wrong, I think the Transit Connect is an awesome small van, but I think it's a royal shame that these went adios. I genuinely like how utilitarian, basic, large and "powerful" they were. Still, they're so commonplace that you'll find them used or CPO everywhere, so no biggie.
I see em all the time at my work at the VA.
I like how it’s more truck looking like the GM vans and the Nissan NV.
The appeal of this van is it's ability to haul a lot of people and stuff, it's ability to actually tow a decent amount, and the fact that it's a body on frame truck chassis which makes it very durable. This is a very utilitarian vehicle and as long as the consumer understands and needs that then they will like it. I think the review is fair because this is truly an old school vehicle compared to all of the new unibody vehicles that people drive today. This is different beast altogether. My fear is that if Ford does away with the Econoline and the new Transit has a pathetic tow rating (which it probably will) then Ford will be out of the true full size van market. That will leave Chevy and the new Nissan NV3500 HD. If you want to see a true beast of a full size van then take a look at the Nissan. That thing is no joke.
Dream Ride
This thing is a real dinosaur! 20-year-old body style on a platform from 1975, unbelievable. At least they're reliable.
I use your youtube videos as my white noise to help me sleep at night. also I am autistic. i like 15 passenger vans, and Airbus A321 aircraft as a hobby.
I see it coming, but I love me my E350 at work.
Reviewers favorite 2 words are "old School". If your going to review a vehicle do a little homework. Front suspension is independent. It is the "twin I-Beam" system that is very heavy duty. It has been around since 1966 on ford trucks. It works well. That is why it is still being used on trucks. You mention engine is 5,4 Triton. WRONG! It is a 2 valve engine. Yes, this is an old thread but I just could not resist responding. I have a 2013 version of this van (with back up camera) and tow a 23" Airstream trailer. Piece of cake. 8600 LB GVW, 3700 LB front axle capacity, 5120 LB rear axle capacity, 2530 LB Cargo Capacity, 13,000 LB Combined Gross Vehicle Rating. The guy should not even be reviewing "Radio Flyer" kids toy wagon.
All I hear from you is how this van is "old school". How about talk about the pros of it?
MetsGiantsRangersKnicksNYSports The guys a putz. He probably would not know a good vehicle if it ran over him.
i want one of these just to commute with. its cool.
But beware they are gas guzzlers but they run great
might be old school van but i still see lots of them on the road today. E150 and 250 cargo vans . 4.6 is very proven motor, my brother has a E150 2004 cargo van 4.6 never any issues,, still driving it,,
Looks exactly like our old 95 on the outside but different on the inside.
I love my old school '93 E150 5.0 V8 Cargo Van I bought brand new in Manassas Virginia
I like rather have the E-series vans over the ugly Transits. Much better looking. Grew up with the Econolines and the Club Wagons.
Same here brother.
Too bad. The transits are immediately better as well as an econoline 150 with a v6.
Those vans should be scrapped
@@urielhernandezT150 Naah, the Ford Econolines are way far superior than the Transit. I know a technician at a Ford dealership and he totally agrees they are not great quality compared to the previous E-series vans. Plus the Transits are not very good looking trucks. Thanks
this van would be very good for long road trips very nice
Ford should use sliding doors on all vans, not split doors. Ford should never call their van a wagon. Everyone knows a van has sliding doors and it's different than a station wagon. We want to see a full size van with dual power sliding doors and stow and go seating. We want the inside to be like a conversion van with a 3rd row seat that turns into a bed. We want see the full size family van back into the market place.
Needed a used reliable vehicle to tow 4 to 5000 pound trailer and carry 6-7 people and their stuff on trips. Pretty much only a full-sized SUV like Suburban/Expedition or a traditional body-on-frame was going to cut it. I didn't need 4wd. The fact that vans are generally uncool and SUV's are everybody's choice worked for me , I didn't care. So it was between 7-8 year old Ford or Chevy/GMC van. This is actually shorter than a full-sized SUV or pickup and that's nice. The ride isn't so good unloaded but I like it much more than I thought I would.
my comment was kind of blunt, i apoligize. you guys make some awesome reviews, i love the format. i guess ive just never been a fan of ford products
sat old school one more time.. and Pow! right on the kisser!
It was discontinued in 2009, guess it was selling well for Ford
Our family bought a brand new 2002 E150 without the truck suspension, with leather, nice sound system, 2 flip down TV's in the rear w/VCR- DVD. He paid around 23K-28K for it and it's a wonderful vehicle with a hell of a lot more room and comfort then some over-priced mini-van yuppie mobile!! Americans are all image over substance and personally I like the more masculine styling of older vehicles. The only bad thing about the big V8 is the crappy MPG's with today's high gas prices.
The EMT foundation lol. I love column shifters
And Dude! When you start the truck, let the motor lubricate itself before you floor it. Jeesh!
Buy an Expedition if you're looking for luxury... Thanks
You edited the video. That part where you floored the gas pedal is missing!... All in all, I miss my 2009 loaded E150. It was a grand ride.
This van is very beautiful still I hope they never stop making it can you review a 2024 E450 cutaway?
First the ford crownvic and now the ford vans!
I have a sudden urge to buy this, live in it and go on tour following phish around the country......
besides the dashboard and seat design. the interior looks similar to my 2000 E-150 Chateau. same for the exterior, despite the front look and wheels.
Thanks for the video!!! I love all your reviews!!! I didn't know you could get an econoline with these features!!!!
Bloody hell I haven't seen a Ford key like that in ages! Its nearly 5 key designs old...if not older!
NICE VAN
Look goo with the chrome
they def do NOT need to replace this van. they just need to update everything in it. Man im gonna miss the econolines. the transit's suck
DAT EXHAUST SOUND
HMMMMMMMMMMMMM... V8
Does it come with the scissors?
Because this is a very heavy vehicle that will be towing and hauling
I love your ford van econoline 🤘
Same they still make it as a 2024 Ford E450 cutaway
That exhaust sounds sweet. Haha.
Chevyy Express VS Ford E
Which one is better?
It does, especially if it's a luxury conversion van.
What is the intro song. BTW He's right though, it is an old seller of ford. But, Is still a good choice.
Sure these things are ancient, but i rather drive this than a minivan.
Looks so effing cool, why the f would they discontinue it?
They only discontinued the van and wagon variant. The cutaway and chassis cab is still available and produced today.
I love these vans, hate to see them quit making them
does a dealership ever have a conversion van version of the econoline?
Very nice review
Where can I find one of these vans in Texas…
I don't anderstud.why never set the prices .?
Had some memories with this van but I'm glad this van was replaced since Ford didn't even bother touching the thing.
Que precio tiene x favor?
How come the transit wasn't introduced in America earlier? It's been top dog in Europe for decades
We knew that the ford transit was introduced in America in 2015.
I'm going to have to disagree with your opinion on these vans with the 4.6. I have an 07 model e150 with the 4.6 and I find no difference between it and the 07 e350 5.4 that my parents own for hulling around the family, well aside from gas mileage.
What is that big red box on the key chain?
It's very funny how he can't get figure out the latch on the windows to open up the back windows. LOL 😆
The Econoline is going to be here for a few years after the Transit comes. Why does the "disclaimer" (why does a review need a disclaimer) advise against test driving cars?
Ford's are not favored, it's just the easiest vehicle to get a hold of. We will put out flaws in every brand
So what's wrong with the diesel?
This guy expectations are amazing dude is a fucking van
Thanks for doing this review. No idea why people are talking so much shhh
This is great if you live in Jamaica, NY. Them government approved cheaper bus alternatives. Used as a taxi style mass transit and no other reason.
+Ndasuunye the dollar vans
***** you got it. But can't assume everyone is from NY or know what a dollar van is.
I honestly want to know who would buy a $40K van of this size with this level of equipment but only in the 7 passenger version.
Do they make these anymore Sofyan?
They do, but only cutaway chassis. Funny thing is they’re still the same, no redesign.
@@jarekjellison817 same except for the trim by a little bit lmao
I love it. I want it.
I heard "old school" at least 20 times....
I liked the old ford. True American cars, not some European Designed car. The only ford I would ever drive is a fiesta titanium, focus SE with apprence package, and f150 Ecoboost.
is this guy demonstrating the vehicle or complaining about it?
как мне его купить?
The sprinter has more cargo space
Of course, the low roof Sprinter is a larger vehicle overall. Not to mention way more expensive than an Econoline.
I wish they still made these with the diesel.
Отличный обзор, всё понятно даже без знания языка. Прекрасный автомобиль!! И стоит не много, у нас в ru , он в два раза дороже стоил бы даже бу!
I want to drive one of these just to say that I drove it
Drinking game - Take a shot when he says "Old"
even the same 5.4L V8 triton
why do you favor fords in everyone of your videos? its kind of annoying. but you do make amazing reviews
The front suspension is independent, do some research before you open tour yapper. The 4.6L is not gutless, I have the 215hp version with almost 200k con it and it still takes the van upto 60 in 10 seconds, which for 7,000 lbs is not bad. Don't complain about the van using a solid rear axle, it is designed for strength. It is an insult to say it is a dinosaur. You are not a van person, clearly. Funny though, the ones from the 90s are indeed better. 1997-1999 and the early 2000s. I'll agree with you on the interior.
***** Well so what? That has nothing to do with someone putting out misinformation.
***** What are you? His defense lawyer? Let him stand up for himself and speak about the issues in the video.
***** I'm out.
No reason the seats are that close together you can easily space them and still have an enormous amount of space in the back ....like the g20s and vandura conversion vans even the older econolines have more space in between
i wonder why ford didn't update the power output in the e series engines. They are the old power outputs. The newest 3v 4.6 v8 produces 292 hp vs this 225 in the e series. Also, the newest 5.4 v8 produces 310 hp while this one is 255. The 6.8 v10 now produces 362 hp and 457 ft. lbs. torque while the 6.8 in the e series version produces 305 hp and 405 ft. lbs. torque. If Ford had simply put the updated engines in the E series in 2009 when they refreshed, I think they'd be much more desirable.
The rims are from the old F150
I wamt one of does i like it i need because is good to travel to others states and because i have a big family and is perfect
Amazed that there is no diesel and that people even look at this as a vehicle considering its engine choices and fuel consumption. American...
Beauty
2013 has a model of the E-series
The body may be 1992, but the rest of it is 1975.
I'd swap out the shitty gas engine for a 6.0 Litre POWERSTROKE Turbo Diesel V8l! I hate Ford for ditching the old Ford chime.
i dont mind them but i just dont like the feeling that im driving a euro-inspired car. i buy american cause i want american! lol
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