Im a beginner. Startet this year its my 6th week. But my family tells me that i am to old for this (39). I am enjoying to much to give up on it. And thanks for these kind of videos i need all the knowledge i can get to improve
It’s not a contact sport. It’s golf but with discs. If a 60 year old retiree can play golf, why can’t someone in their late 30s play disc golf? Paul McBeth is 33 and still playing. Age doesn’t mean anything. Don’t give up. Don’t listen to the nay sayers
OMG..Don Shin picked it up at 79 and played to 100. It’’s for everyone. I’m 50 (learned at 48) and plan to play for my whole life. Once you learn the proper way to throw you can play par golf on any course. Video yourself often and work on one thing at a time.
This is great advice! I bought my first set of discs and started throwing in the park literally just last week. You are absolutely right about my first throw looking how you threw it and I also figured it was a problem. I actually ended up fixing it on accident - I was copying James Conrad’s pre-shot lineup and noticed his wrist was pointed downwards as you described. Tried throwing with my wrist locked downwards and had way better results!
I'm really glad you are covering the positive aspects of nose up. On the technical courses in the northeast where I play, the ability to throw discs nose up, air bounce, ect... is absolutely key for certain lines, even with faster discs. The understable fairway driver nose up shot is a very unique and useful shot to go straight and hit a tight tunnel, to me at least.
I was gonna say it in the Facebook group, but I will here too: I’m glad that you ended the video by saying ‘get it in the field’. It’s so important to get out there. TH-cam is great for information, but it doesn’t tell you what you’re doing wrong. Field work, local pros, and video recordings will though.
I starting playing like 5 years ago, stopped playing after the end of the summer that year and just started playing again a month ago. My body really wants me to throw nose up now its the most frustrating thing in the world to correct now that I'm actively trying to fix my form. Part of me wants to go back to 5 years ago when I was accidentally doing things right and throwing mediocre instead of trying to fix my form and throwing poorly lol. This video and part 1 really helped ive made more progress towards improving after watching them than I did before. Now I just need to watch the rest of the series
If you are angling your wrist forward and still think you are throwing nose up. Subconsciously you may be relaxing your wrist near the release point. I make a conscious effort to maintain my downward wrist angle until I’ve completed my follow through 👍
My progression was exactly like this. I finally fix it, but had no idea what I did that made the difference until I watched this. Nose angle is also important to get right before you try hyzer/anhyzer, because neither of them will do what you expect if you nose angle is wrong...except for maybe the most exaggerated hyzer/anhyzer angles.
Definitely going to be a tough thing for me to change habit wise. That first part about throwing low to compensate for how I threw really applies to me. I'm constantly in awe of people who throw much higher then me and can get well over 300 feet. When I would throw that high, I'd barely get 150, so I threw lower and lower until I could MAYBE get 250 at best with a mid.
Awesome video Danny! I love the way you explain your ideas. Telling an amateur that their release angle is too nose-up and they have too much hyzer could be confusing, but using the coffee cup pouring example is a great way to illustrate it!
I’d love a video on ‘touch’ when throwing understable discs. I’ve had the most practice aces with my Maiden but I find it very hard to get the right balance with my first throw.
Agree with this. Also, some good tips on how/when to throw what kind of turn, how to control it (or compensate direction for it). Possibly even tips on hyzer flips, how much hyzer vs turn?
Love your videos Danny! One small critique is not using Eric for form examples, his form is so different from other pro disc golfers that your message is kind of lost. Hard to pay attention to nose angle when his reach back is so different
This guy is an insanr teacher, damn! Thanks Danny! If there are more people interrested in this, could you please please make a video on throwing neutral/understable putters on forehand, i throw every disc possible over/neutral/understable on forehand but when it comes to deeper putters it fluttering out of my hand
Check "How to get the Nose Down on your Backhand" by Overthrow disc golf. The clock and release position makes the angle/coffee thing more obvious. He also explains a 2nd method that might work better for you, keeping the wrist relaxed and supinating (rotating it open) during the pull
Hey Danny, great to see you back. You asked for topics to cover, and one thing I am struggling to understand, if there is a sweet spot for flipping disc up (and over). What I mean is: do I throw an understandable mid with 15 - 20 degree hyzer and 50 - 60 % power and it will flip to flat, or is it more like 12 degree and 53 % power to flat and then 55% power it will turn over? Don’t know if I explained my question very good, but in general I wonder if there are windows to flip up and if yes how big are they (depending on the disc)
@@bholedg trying to rephrase. I need a certain amount of power to cause a disc to flip up. How much more power do I need to turn it over. And how much is the amount of power needed for both dependent on the angle of release.
Pretty sure it was in an earlier video but, can you go over 'Compression' or how one Compresses then releases while moving through their drive? Is that relating to a crouch while engaging your core in a particular way to coil like a spring then release that energy into your release or something else alltogether? What can you do to improve or modify compression for positive gain? 🤔
Hey Danny, great job as always. Been watching for years. Would like to see a video on timing between hips & shoulders... thanks for all the great info...
One tip I usually give to beginners when they can't tell if they're throwing nose up or not, is to look at the disc while it's flying and if they can see the stamp on top of the disc then it's because they're throwing nose up. The more they can see the top of the disc the more nose up their shot is.
I struggle with controlling nose angle on forehand drives. I'm sure it's a habit from Ultimate. Sometimes it's just fine, sometimes the disc pops up, and sometimes the disc really pops up. How should I approach nose angle on forehands?
I have something you could cover. as a beginner i have had terrible finding a video that shows all the different kinds of throws like back hand, forehand, hyzer flip, etc. It would be nice if they were all in one video.
Went and played in Emporia once. Every player was throwing nose up, was so weird to see everyone throw down and have it air skip up. Might be the elevation change, but I can't air skip anything even if I try
I know this video is old and idk how many people still frequent it but... first of all, great tips! These videos are super helpful. I've only been playing for a little under two months now and my form is getting better but I still tend to throw really nose up and high most of the time, despite using the tea kettle method with my wrist to point down and trying to pull across my chest with my shoulders level. I'm currently just trying to throw from a standing position to get my form down, so I'm having trouble determining what the issue could be with why I can't just throw level and straight (I also tend to release my throw in every errant direction except the one I want to sometimes, despite making sure not to round my throwing arm when I reach back). Could this be more of a grip and/or release issue? Or just not timing the mechanics right? Any advice would be great.
Thank you for the video. I’m excited but nervous as hell for my first tournament that is coming up next month. There are times when I throw my forehand into the dirt and now I definitely know why 😂 time to go do some fieldwork
The thing I am working on and haven’t found online are: different walk up/run ups and how they correlate with distance, accuracy. At 50 and throwing around 375 with good timing. I am starting sideways and doing a slow walk up that I’m sure i can continue to do for the rest of my disc golf life. But what am I missing out on by not mastering a run up? Sure I’ve tried it many times in practice, but the timing isn’t there. But if I knew it was worth it…….
I’m 60, and this spring I focused on learning an X-step- lots of flailing, and a sore back, but once I got it, it added 30-50 feet to my previous 350 max distance.
Great video! I heard someone said that also the nose angle depends if you have the wrist above your elbow at your backswing, is this correct? Or is it all the wrist?😁
Great video, this is something I really struggle with. I think my problem is my wrist is always above my elbow on every shot. when I am trying to throw nose down should I focus on keeping my elbow above my wrist?
Danny, love your content. I'm missing something as a newb. Grip, grip pressure and release. I hear about pop, is that just the disc coming out, or are you releasing. Baseball there is a release.. As a newb, my hands tend to hurt a day or 2 after a round. Don't see anyone talking about it. thanks!
Hey Danny, great video. One thing I've felt like I have a hard time with is understanding how to have a straight, tunnel-shot, type of throw with a neutral disc. I feel like my throws are nose-up and slightly hyzering, but I've tried to adjust my reachback and form and I'm really struggling with getting this shot down. I almost feel like it's a combination of OAT, improper plant foot placement, and not releasing the disc properly. I haven't really seen any videos that talk about how the disc should actually release from your hand. Is it supposed to be pulled out of the fingers by sheer force, or should you open your hand at the end of your pull through so that it just slides out without any friction. Whatever the correct method is, I'm not doing it, and it feels like it's causing me to be super inaccurate and lose a lot of force behind the throw. Any suggestions?
I've heard many people say that the right way is to grip hard and force the disc to rip out, but I've had to learn that for me that's completely wrong. I have to intentionally relax my grip a little when i want the disc to leave my hand or bad things happen. I don't think you'll have any success opening your hand and letting the disc come out without friction, #1 you probably can't open your hand that fast and #2 you'll lose power and control.
Nice advice! I recently corrected my nose up issue (I think?) and my flight path is much better. One thing I'm struggling with his getting my hips engaged, or at least I think that's my issue. Feels like my arm is moving way before my hips start to turn. Any tips?
if you watch slomos of some pros you'll see that the arm doesnt move forward until the hips turn and the hips dont turn forward until their momentum is driven into the plant/brace leg, as odd as it sounds keeping your head down and centered between your feet all the way until your momentum forces you onto your front leg helps to develop that timing, and as an added bonus it keeps your torso in plane with your hips, which should now be turned further back with the core locked to the hips through the head centered between your feet during the x step. whew that last sentence awful but I hope it makes sense.
Fast discs will mask any wobble or inconsistent release angles, but slower discs will mask nose-up. I'd mix in some of both but mainly throwing fairway drivers. - Danny
@@TheGullibleSkeptic better late than never I guess, but Valarie Jenkins has a beautiful style of throw, but a lot of times she aims low with nose up and the result looks like this 😊
Not the clearest Danny video… This puts way too much emphasis on wrist angle and the backswing. Like you mention, the backswing isn’t that important (Chris Clemons, Seppo Paju, etc.). The real problem with nose up is ALMOST ALWAYS related to tipping out of balance backwards and not fully shifting to the front foot before you swing.
I think this was a fine first video, but I do think there could be a second video still focused on nose angle. Covering things like making sure your weight is fully forward, as well as making sure your elbow is appropriately high.
Im a beginner. Startet this year its my 6th week. But my family tells me that i am to old for this (39). I am enjoying to much to give up on it. And thanks for these kind of videos i need all the knowledge i can get to improve
This sport is for everyone who wants to enjoy the beauty of flight.
46 and just started...... Never to old to be active!
It’s not a contact sport. It’s golf but with discs. If a 60 year old retiree can play golf, why can’t someone in their late 30s play disc golf? Paul McBeth is 33 and still playing. Age doesn’t mean anything. Don’t give up. Don’t listen to the nay sayers
OMG..Don Shin picked it up at 79 and played to 100. It’’s for everyone. I’m 50 (learned at 48) and plan to play for my whole life. Once you learn the proper way to throw you can play par golf on any course. Video yourself often and work on one thing at a time.
Do it Kent. I started 2 years ago at the age of 44. There are few things I love more than throwing and you will get better if you practice.
You don't have to call the first bit "the boring part"! It was actually really interesting.
Thanks for the feedback. Glad you enjoyed it!
Danny you're back,,, really like how you explain things. Keep up the good work .
Really good teacher. Just wish he still rocked the awesome stash
This is great advice!
I bought my first set of discs and started throwing in the park literally just last week. You are absolutely right about my first throw looking how you threw it and I also figured it was a problem. I actually ended up fixing it on accident - I was copying James Conrad’s pre-shot lineup and noticed his wrist was pointed downwards as you described. Tried throwing with my wrist locked downwards and had way better results!
I'm really glad you are covering the positive aspects of nose up. On the technical courses in the northeast where I play, the ability to throw discs nose up, air bounce, ect... is absolutely key for certain lines, even with faster discs. The understable fairway driver nose up shot is a very unique and useful shot to go straight and hit a tight tunnel, to me at least.
I was gonna say it in the Facebook group, but I will here too: I’m glad that you ended the video by saying ‘get it in the field’. It’s so important to get out there. TH-cam is great for information, but it doesn’t tell you what you’re doing wrong. Field work, local pros, and video recordings will though.
I starting playing like 5 years ago, stopped playing after the end of the summer that year and just started playing again a month ago. My body really wants me to throw nose up now its the most frustrating thing in the world to correct now that I'm actively trying to fix my form. Part of me wants to go back to 5 years ago when I was accidentally doing things right and throwing mediocre instead of trying to fix my form and throwing poorly lol. This video and part 1 really helped ive made more progress towards improving after watching them than I did before. Now I just need to watch the rest of the series
Danny I learned so much of what I know about throwing from your channel, thank you for producing concise and informative videos for the community.
If you are angling your wrist forward and still think you are throwing nose up. Subconsciously you may be relaxing your wrist near the release point. I make a conscious effort to maintain my downward wrist angle until I’ve completed my follow through 👍
My progression was exactly like this. I finally fix it, but had no idea what I did that made the difference until I watched this. Nose angle is also important to get right before you try hyzer/anhyzer, because neither of them will do what you expect if you nose angle is wrong...except for maybe the most exaggerated hyzer/anhyzer angles.
Definitely going to be a tough thing for me to change habit wise. That first part about throwing low to compensate for how I threw really applies to me. I'm constantly in awe of people who throw much higher then me and can get well over 300 feet. When I would throw that high, I'd barely get 150, so I threw lower and lower until I could MAYBE get 250 at best with a mid.
Awesome video Danny! I love the way you explain your ideas. Telling an amateur that their release angle is too nose-up and they have too much hyzer could be confusing, but using the coffee cup pouring example is a great way to illustrate it!
Glad to see you guys are back making videos! Great quality as always and thank you for taking the time to teach us new kids haha.
Great video. Concise and complete. Really good presentation. Thanks!
I’d love a video on ‘touch’ when throwing understable discs. I’ve had the most practice aces with my Maiden but I find it very hard to get the right balance with my first throw.
Agree with this. Also, some good tips on how/when to throw what kind of turn, how to control it (or compensate direction for it). Possibly even tips on hyzer flips, how much hyzer vs turn?
Love your videos Danny! One small critique is not using Eric for form examples, his form is so different from other pro disc golfers that your message is kind of lost. Hard to pay attention to nose angle when his reach back is so different
Great pointers. I am definitely doing the nose up - aim low tek. Need to work on my wrist angle. Thank you for the home work! :D
This guy is an insanr teacher, damn! Thanks Danny!
If there are more people interrested in this, could you please please make a video on throwing neutral/understable putters on forehand, i throw every disc possible over/neutral/understable on forehand but when it comes to deeper putters it fluttering out of my hand
DANNY IS BACKKKKKK
Really nice video, brother! Welcome back! Your voice has been awesome for a long time and I'm glad to hear more of it!
Check "How to get the Nose Down on your Backhand" by Overthrow disc golf. The clock and release position makes the angle/coffee thing more obvious. He also explains a 2nd method that might work better for you, keeping the wrist relaxed and supinating (rotating it open) during the pull
Danny, thanks for another great video! I'll be working on this technique for sure.
Hey Danny, great to see you back. You asked for topics to cover, and one thing I am struggling to understand, if there is a sweet spot for flipping disc up (and over). What I mean is: do I throw an understandable mid with 15 - 20 degree hyzer and 50 - 60 % power and it will flip to flat, or is it more like 12 degree and 53 % power to flat and then 55% power it will turn over? Don’t know if I explained my question very good, but in general I wonder if there are windows to flip up and if yes how big are they (depending on the disc)
Might want to rephrase
@@bholedg trying to rephrase. I need a certain amount of power to cause a disc to flip up. How much more power do I need to turn it over. And how much is the amount of power needed for both dependent on the angle of release.
Great vid, can’t wait to try it out
Very good explanation Danny! Thank you!
Pretty sure it was in an earlier video but, can you go over 'Compression' or how one Compresses then releases while moving through their drive? Is that relating to a crouch while engaging your core in a particular way to coil like a spring then release that energy into your release or something else alltogether? What can you do to improve or modify compression for positive gain? 🤔
Gotta love it. I was out at this exact spot today practicing to correct this exact issue 😂
Great tips! I honestly think that nose control is the major piece missing from my game
Hey Danny, great job as always. Been watching for years. Would like to see a video on timing between hips & shoulders... thanks for all the great info...
Great great video. I’m definitely seeing some things that will help me. 🙏
Good explanation
Good stuff. Broken down expertly.
Thanks!!! Great content as always!!!
Great video!
Danny is the man
One tip I usually give to beginners when they can't tell if they're throwing nose up or not, is to look at the disc while it's flying and if they can see the stamp on top of the disc then it's because they're throwing nose up. The more they can see the top of the disc the more nose up their shot is.
I struggle with controlling nose angle on forehand drives. I'm sure it's a habit from Ultimate. Sometimes it's just fine, sometimes the disc pops up, and sometimes the disc really pops up. How should I approach nose angle on forehands?
Thanks, this are great advice.
I have something you could cover. as a beginner i have had terrible finding a video that shows all the different kinds of throws like back hand, forehand, hyzer flip, etc. It would be nice if they were all in one video.
Think the biggest thing I’ve learned so far in this video series is that I need to film my form lol. Love the wrist above the elbow tip from Uli.
Please explain more, wrist above the elbow from what vid did you see that?
@@Nickeeefy this is the video I saw it in.
th-cam.com/video/lyk8gdIjK5o/w-d-xo.html
Went and played in Emporia once. Every player was throwing nose up, was so weird to see everyone throw down and have it air skip up. Might be the elevation change, but I can't air skip anything even if I try
I know this video is old and idk how many people still frequent it but... first of all, great tips! These videos are super helpful. I've only been playing for a little under two months now and my form is getting better but I still tend to throw really nose up and high most of the time, despite using the tea kettle method with my wrist to point down and trying to pull across my chest with my shoulders level.
I'm currently just trying to throw from a standing position to get my form down, so I'm having trouble determining what the issue could be with why I can't just throw level and straight (I also tend to release my throw in every errant direction except the one I want to sometimes, despite making sure not to round my throwing arm when I reach back). Could this be more of a grip and/or release issue? Or just not timing the mechanics right? Any advice would be great.
Hizer flips please !
Love the content danny!
Thanks bud! What were you illustrating with the final shots of you throwing in the past?
Thanks!
Could do a video on follow through .. I think a lot of us stop and watch... why follow through is so important
Thank you for the video. I’m excited but nervous as hell for my first tournament that is coming up next month. There are times when I throw my forehand into the dirt and now I definitely know why 😂 time to go do some fieldwork
How did you do in your tournament?
@@dalereinhold640 finished tied for 10th MA1
The thing I am working on and haven’t found online are: different walk up/run ups and how they correlate with distance, accuracy. At 50 and throwing around 375 with good timing. I am starting sideways and doing a slow walk up that I’m sure i can continue to do for the rest of my disc golf life. But what am I missing out on by not mastering a run up? Sure I’ve tried it many times in practice, but the timing isn’t there. But if I knew it was worth it…….
I’m 60, and this spring I focused on learning an X-step- lots of flailing, and a sore back, but once I got it, it added 30-50 feet to my previous 350 max distance.
Thank you
I’m going to record myself today. I think I’ve been throwing nose up a lot. The course I go to has both up and down hills and lots of trees in the way
Incredible!
Great video! I heard someone said that also the nose angle depends if you have the wrist above your elbow at your backswing, is this correct? Or is it all the wrist?😁
Great video, this is something I really struggle with. I think my problem is my wrist is always above my elbow on every shot. when I am trying to throw nose down should I focus on keeping my elbow above my wrist?
Danny, love your content. I'm missing something as a newb. Grip, grip pressure and release. I hear about pop, is that just the disc coming out, or are you releasing. Baseball there is a release.. As a newb, my hands tend to hurt a day or 2 after a round. Don't see anyone talking about it. thanks!
keep it up danny
How do I anhyzer a putter? I cant get it to turn over and go right and instead it just goes left.
What about , putting/driving in the wind, depending on the wind direction how should the angle of attack be?
Hey Danny, great video. One thing I've felt like I have a hard time with is understanding how to have a straight, tunnel-shot, type of throw with a neutral disc. I feel like my throws are nose-up and slightly hyzering, but I've tried to adjust my reachback and form and I'm really struggling with getting this shot down. I almost feel like it's a combination of OAT, improper plant foot placement, and not releasing the disc properly. I haven't really seen any videos that talk about how the disc should actually release from your hand. Is it supposed to be pulled out of the fingers by sheer force, or should you open your hand at the end of your pull through so that it just slides out without any friction. Whatever the correct method is, I'm not doing it, and it feels like it's causing me to be super inaccurate and lose a lot of force behind the throw. Any suggestions?
I've heard many people say that the right way is to grip hard and force the disc to rip out, but I've had to learn that for me that's completely wrong. I have to intentionally relax my grip a little when i want the disc to leave my hand or bad things happen. I don't think you'll have any success opening your hand and letting the disc come out without friction, #1 you probably can't open your hand that fast and #2 you'll lose power and control.
What do you think of Scott stokely Danny? Have you watched his videos?
Thank you for covering this. I been trying to tell people.
Nice advice! I recently corrected my nose up issue (I think?) and my flight path is much better. One thing I'm struggling with his getting my hips engaged, or at least I think that's my issue. Feels like my arm is moving way before my hips start to turn. Any tips?
if you watch slomos of some pros you'll see that the arm doesnt move forward until the hips turn and the hips dont turn forward until their momentum is driven into the plant/brace leg, as odd as it sounds keeping your head down and centered between your feet all the way until your momentum forces you onto your front leg helps to develop that timing, and as an added bonus it keeps your torso in plane with your hips, which should now be turned further back with the core locked to the hips through the head centered between your feet during the x step. whew that last sentence awful but I hope it makes sense.
If I'm maxing out at 300 feet with 12-13 speed discs, should I be throwing slower discs or working on form, or both?
Fast discs will mask any wobble or inconsistent release angles, but slower discs will mask nose-up. I'd mix in some of both but mainly throwing fairway drivers.
- Danny
It is possible to throw a disc with the nose too far down, but I doubt many people do it by accident. You kinda have to force it to happen.
How about a video on how to increase mobility and flexibility. Pre, mid, Post round stretches. I get hip pain after every round
Yoga. There ya go.
Or Danny could make a video with some “Disc golf strong” mobility exercises and stretches.
You're turning this into rocket science for someone who doesn't understand
Don't mangle your nose angle
1:36 reminds me of a certain FPO world champion 😅
Now I'm curious who you are referring to...
@@TheGullibleSkeptic better late than never I guess, but Valarie Jenkins has a beautiful style of throw, but a lot of times she aims low with nose up and the result looks like this 😊
👍🏻
You underestimate my judgment of boring sir, how dare you.
Not the clearest Danny video… This puts way too much emphasis on wrist angle and the backswing. Like you mention, the backswing isn’t that important (Chris Clemons, Seppo Paju, etc.). The real problem with nose up is ALMOST ALWAYS related to tipping out of balance backwards and not fully shifting to the front foot before you swing.
I think this was a fine first video, but I do think there could be a second video still focused on nose angle. Covering things like making sure your weight is fully forward, as well as making sure your elbow is appropriately high.
I still can’t throw nose down, no matter what I do 😂
you poor your coffee in a strange way
stopped at 8 second because u where going to show what not to do,,,
You’re bad at disc golf, stop trying to explain stuff to me