Watching Koreans move with Mishimas looks unreal. Kazuya literally looks like he's sliding on the floor. Also, is the Jaguar step better in Tekken 7 than it was in old games? I really didn't see people use it until Lil Majin blew up.
@@mr.leroysmith7012 boa is another brilliant iconic display of kazuya, but knees movement was insane, ive never seen boa hop between side steps, did anyone else see that? he was like playing hop scotch between off axis and on axis, was insanely clean never missed a beat. Knee however doesn't play a very risky entertaining Kazuya, Boa and those other well renowned players are that as they do the flashy stuff and hold their spot, knees feel and game knowledge in tekken is what is appealing i guess, he is so efficient.
@@mr.leroysmith7012 if you look at how Knee moves, you could see that his Movement are better than Boa. For example look at this 14:58 - 15:00 , see how he switch between wavedash miststep wavedash and its beautiful
@@ghiffaribara2949 though knee has better all round movement, Boa has the fastest wave dash I've ever seen. It looks like he is using a macro, even on the right side. But knee and better movement mixing up wave dash and sidesteps
MBC i think is the best in terms of King knowledge. He knows all the paths for all the chain grabs by heart, and the oki for almost every situation. Plus he's super good at mixing up the grabs. Hakaioh and Lil Majin though seem to have better fundamentals than him, so it's very hard to say who the best King in the world is. I think it's one of those three no doubt though.
Definitely pick up T7 and play, I was in the same position as you, hadn't played since T3. Such a good game, very rewarding as you find characters you love, and you always improve match to match. I've found playing even at my novice level gives me a better understanding of higher level play, best punishment, character match ups, so even though I will never approach the talents of guys like Knee and Puma, I can still improve my game by watching. Having TMM do these match commentaries is something I wish I had when I was a better than average PS1 Tekken player, its like having a coach any time you need one!
@@aripea1980 I may just do that...but I feel it's important for youtubers and streamers to know if they are skilled enough in their art to attract an audience outside their community...MMS is really super good in front of a camera and I freaking LOVE whenever Wilhelm breaks into the office
@@jeannewillemse6433 I absolutely agree, he has great presentation and personality, it gave me hope that I could still actually play Tekken to a passable standard, because I can learn something from the majority of the explanations he gives. A lot of streamers assume (rightly so in many cases) that their viewers have a good fundamental knowledge of the mechanics of the games played, TMM manages to drill down to the basic level of a characters gameplay, without dumbing down his content or patronising the viewer. It's a skill I've appreciated greatly, and it's the mark of a great teacher or instructor. I hope you take the plunge and join the King of Iron Fist World for yourself, I've found the vast majority of players to be very knowledgeable, happy to give advice, and humble of their own abilities. It's been a pleasant surprise for me!
Tony Tyssens I didn’t think his Kaz was that aggressive. But I did think his spacing movement and execution were damn near perfect. The only time I thought he was as aggressive as Boabluv was after he got screwdrivered.
knee will never be an aggressive player, that's why he hasn't won anything major, coz peeps will have read on him judging by his never changing playstyle. lost faith in him winning twt after 2 years, he'll never change and nearing retirement.
@@KingGodzilla0 Bro Knee was mad after eating that Screwdriver chain. That sidestep Electric after was Knee saying "You think you're good? Watch this."
metalsadman playstyle has nothing to do with winning a tournament,knee has won more tournaments than you’ll ever enter . And has already solidified himself at least top 5 tekken players in history. I find it interesting when people like to critique and say they should do something like it so easily worked for them. Makes me wanna ask who are you? Ya know?
@@The_Buff_Guy is it recent? if so, i'd love the link. the last time i saw his lei win arslan, arslan beat him back. i haven't seen much of his lei since.
Puma is an awesome king, but i think in this matchup he went a little too defensive. With players like Knee, unpredictable players have more of a chance in getting up in their defense, i think he used way too much jaguar step into 2 and grab, Lil Majin handles it better. Always a bliss anyways learning and enjoying these matches! Keep up the good work!
Knee's the best Kaz cause he doesn't rely on the gimmicky 50/50 vortex bs that 95% of "Cosplayers" abuse. having a high success rate, risking your life with 50/50's doesn't make you good with any character. just means you're probably compensating for your lack of fundamentals and also lucky.
The reason he got the screwdriver on knee is that a lot of those throws in that chain have two different inputs to choose from which lead to different breaks. It's kings true throw mixup as even if you know that is the throw chain he is going for you have to guess the input method for the throw.
I think the name of the korean is from some small time tournaments i think, very niche and is really good at armor king, jd something from what i remembered 🤔🤔
Yeah TMM, u also mentioned that knee doesn't take risks in another video as well. When he started to play T7, his playstyle become more and more defensive over the years, anyway I find him Kaz more intimidating than Boa one. Back in the days of T5DR , knee with Bryan was aggressively insane af, like matches that last 10 sec more or less.
@@cageman301 yes man that was an awesome set. I'm not sure why he adjust he's play style but I start to think that "he plays more aggressively in tekken chapters that rewards more the defense play and vice-versa" that's it's kinda funny. IMHO he toned down is aggressive due to T7 vanilla arcade to console release and so on changes, and due to overall viable roster in tournaments, he faced a lot of aggressive new players that comes in the pro scene, I'm not surprised about knee char choices, he often going for CH monsters.
Keeping aside Knee for a moment since he has always been a God-amongst-gods kind of figure. But Puma, man! I might be easily watching the second-best King in the world. The title made me think this was a one-sided match. How wrong I was!! I look forward to seeing more of Puma!
The best King is Hakaioh. But Puma, Taiheiyo, Ahsan, Lil Majin (in his better days), and MBC (pretty much retired from tournaments) among others are very strong players as well.
At this point from where I'm observing (semi new to Tekken) Knee is known for playing other characters at a really high level, he truly is Mokujin but that means he doesn't specialize with characters tho, Jimmy does crazy optimal stuff with Bryan and brings Bryan into a spotlight same with Lil Majin his King is awesome cause he brings out the inner King, but Knee is a great player and no one can ever take that away from him he just isn't the best with a singular character like everyone keeps clinging to.
@@jeremyfuller7730 Did you listen to what mainman was saying? He said that there was another Korean King main, and told people to comment his name. Dude above quite rightly stated the above king players are both Japanese. So what's your problem?
I think Knees only real weakness is he plays too safe and solid. If went went a little crazy/random at times he would probably be damn near unstoppable.
I especially loved the part where he did back turned JGS into moonsault. I love mixing it up between that or his clothesline unblockable. It’s hits a whole lot more often than you would expect.
The best Kings are..... Lil Majin Puma MBC Top 3. Despite playing the same character at a high level they all having vastly different playstyles. In fact if Lil Majin picked up some tools from MBC he's probably be top 8 every single tournament. However I think Lil Majin is the best out of the 3 based on results. Puma is just a monster when he decides to go ape shit lol
@@kujakuu Just hold back when you do it. Also yeah, that's why he uses it. Also because it actually has range unlike most of Kazuya's mids that are good. F3 isn't good enough to mash out like that and doesn't give the huge reward. Some characters can also punish it reliably.
@@VocalTK yeah i thought so... its funny how high level gameplay is so different from normal ranked play, u barely see any spam and everyone is super safe... wish i could be as defensive as knee but there is no way i can learn all the gimmicks from all the characters without doing a career on tekken xd thanks for the cancel info!
The match can be seen here: th-cam.com/video/jkUlhz6U8q4/w-d-xo.html
Hey man i wanted to ask, can Leroy parry negans db2 bat too?
The answer to Leroys parry is always YES.
To be honest I dont know about this one
The king is triple H?
Please make a tier list video of all rage drives ranked from worst to best... Thanks...🙏
@@VarunSingh-yw5fq yes it can
"50 percent of the time works every time" that's a true kazuya main right here lol
kazoya
Kazoya
kazoya
Kazouyia
50% of the time you spell kazuya right every time
1:50 "minimising his risk taking" as he wavedashes in puma's face
Watching Koreans move with Mishimas looks unreal. Kazuya literally looks like he's sliding on the floor. Also, is the Jaguar step better in Tekken 7 than it was in old games? I really didn't see people use it until Lil Majin blew up.
sonofaballer96 Watch Boa Luvb
@@V1ert Why not CDP and Choksae? Their movement is much better.
Vocal Boa have more aggressive Kazuya than both of them,and a better wave dashing I think,he is just aggressive with wave dashing.
@@V1ert Boa's wavedashing is not even close to their wavedash lmao. On p2 it's pretty even but on p1 they absolutely smoke him.
Vocal You clearly don’t see Boas matches against Knee,Arslan,Chikurin and etc.
That screwdriver... that was insane lmao!
I literally screamed
Looking at puma doing the inputs was the coolest shit ever LMFAOOOOO.
11:04 oh, that insane wave dash into rage drive.
The fact that both of them were smiling in the end meant they both had fun which is awesome
never have seen such crazy movement. knee is a monster
Boa is more crazy when it comes to kazuya movements
@@mr.leroysmith7012 he ain't ...
@@mr.leroysmith7012 boa is another brilliant iconic display of kazuya, but knees movement was insane, ive never seen boa hop between side steps, did anyone else see that? he was like playing hop scotch between off axis and on axis, was insanely clean never missed a beat. Knee however doesn't play a very risky entertaining Kazuya, Boa and those other well renowned players are that as they do the flashy stuff and hold their spot, knees feel and game knowledge in tekken is what is appealing i guess, he is so efficient.
@@mr.leroysmith7012 if you look at how Knee moves, you could see that his Movement are better than Boa. For example look at this 14:58 - 15:00 , see how he switch between wavedash miststep wavedash and its beautiful
@@ghiffaribara2949 though knee has better all round movement, Boa has the fastest wave dash I've ever seen. It looks like he is using a macro, even on the right side. But knee and better movement mixing up wave dash and sidesteps
10:17 That dash up GS was godlike. I 100% thought it was an iSW. I bet Knee thought so as well
Genius tech
whats a iSW
@@MFUnicornBey Instant Shining Wizard. A Shining Wizard from point blank or very short range
yeah, just how tf do you break that if the 1 break animation looks like in iSW
@@JESSROCKEDChannel you have to guess. King and armor king are the only characters you have to guess like that from a standing throw
I think he might be talking about MBC from South Korea. Haven't seen the guy compete in a while
I think so too. MBC has one of the coolest, craziest armor kings as well lol no one plays like him
Hakaiou is much better though. He even got a 9-9, final final round in FT10 against Arslan Ash last year. Such an underrated player from Osaka.
MBC i think is the best in terms of King knowledge. He knows all the paths for all the chain grabs by heart, and the oki for almost every situation. Plus he's super good at mixing up the grabs.
Hakaioh and Lil Majin though seem to have better fundamentals than him, so it's very hard to say who the best King in the world is. I think it's one of those three no doubt though.
Yeah it's MBC
17:19 Knee was really pissed off
Dude got chain throwed and chose violence the next round lol
Despite lil majin, puma and MBC, you forgot to mention Japan's best king player and his name is Hakaioh
Yea he is great. He nearly beat arslan ash in a first to 10. Arslan won it 9:9 in the last round. Was a crazy set.
I haven't played tekken since tekken 3...but for some reason I can't stop watching this channel...great TH-camr and great community
Definitely pick up T7 and play, I was in the same position as you, hadn't played since T3. Such a good game, very rewarding as you find characters you love, and you always improve match to match. I've found playing even at my novice level gives me a better understanding of higher level play, best punishment, character match ups, so even though I will never approach the talents of guys like Knee and Puma, I can still improve my game by watching. Having TMM do these match commentaries is something I wish I had when I was a better than average PS1 Tekken player, its like having a coach any time you need one!
@@aripea1980 I may just do that...but I feel it's important for youtubers and streamers to know if they are skilled enough in their art to attract an audience outside their community...MMS is really super good in front of a camera and I freaking LOVE whenever Wilhelm breaks into the office
@@jeannewillemse6433 I absolutely agree, he has great presentation and personality, it gave me hope that I could still actually play Tekken to a passable standard, because I can learn something from the majority of the explanations he gives. A lot of streamers assume (rightly so in many cases) that their viewers have a good fundamental knowledge of the mechanics of the games played, TMM manages to drill down to the basic level of a characters gameplay, without dumbing down his content or patronising the viewer. It's a skill I've appreciated greatly, and it's the mark of a great teacher or instructor. I hope you take the plunge and join the King of Iron Fist World for yourself, I've found the vast majority of players to be very knowledgeable, happy to give advice, and humble of their own abilities. It's been a pleasant surprise for me!
Personally, that was the closest Tekken match I have ever seen.... King's screwdriver is insane.
16:58
King's Player : Hold my rage
The pinnacle of King Chain throws
@Flame Playz it's a bit cringy tbh m8. Also no offence, but... Your King could use some work.
16:58 probably first time i saw that much chain throws to knee.
17:11 Knee's mind be like "A'ight I'll give you that, GOD MODE ON" *with eyes shining red*
He’s not actually throwing to many hellsweeps
its knee gameplay style
That's knee in a nutshell. The perfect style of tekken. Low risk+movement+punishment.
He barely uses so he can bait Kazuya’s strong mids
something special about the old school king vs kazuya matchup played at this level... these games felt so raw. thanks for the dopamine
Your enthusiasm is what makes your Tekken videos the best!
Knee's movement is insane
Damn knee kazuya seems to be more aggressive. I bet his been learning from Bobluv
Tony Tyssens I didn’t think his Kaz was that aggressive. But I did think his spacing movement and execution were damn near perfect. The only time I thought he was as aggressive as Boabluv was after he got screwdrivered.
knee will never be an aggressive player, that's why he hasn't won anything major, coz peeps will have read on him judging by his never changing playstyle. lost faith in him winning twt after 2 years, he'll never change and nearing retirement.
@@KingGodzilla0 Bro Knee was mad after eating that Screwdriver chain. That sidestep Electric after was Knee saying "You think you're good? Watch this."
metalsadman playstyle has nothing to do with winning a tournament,knee has won more tournaments than you’ll ever enter . And has already solidified himself at least top 5 tekken players in history. I find it interesting when people like to critique and say they should do something like it so easily worked for them. Makes me wanna ask who are you? Ya know?
"Knees Kazuya's is on steroids" 😂😂😂
When you play againts a very Agressive Mishimas players likes Boa Luv , Choksae and iKari ofcourse your Mishima will be on point.
Right and what's insane is he beat all those guys in mirror matches
11:12 "I'm actually going to a.... *pulls out meat scepter*....
The chain throw in Match 5 R1, massive brass balls on Puma for that. Great contest by both players, back and forth action start to finish.
Another very strong King player is Pakistan's "Ahsan Ali." Also plays lei if i remember
His Lei destroyed Arslan ash in a death match vs his geese, kazumi, AND akuma!
@@The_Buff_Guy is it recent? if so, i'd love the link. the last time i saw his lei win arslan, arslan beat him back. i haven't seen much of his lei since.
Azu Shi th-cam.com/video/lsuIWQNMZeM/w-d-xo.html
7 months ago but still incredible.
Puma is an awesome king, but i think in this matchup he went a little too defensive. With players like Knee, unpredictable players have more of a chance in getting up in their defense, i think he used way too much jaguar step into 2 and grab, Lil Majin handles it better.
Always a bliss anyways learning and enjoying these matches! Keep up the good work!
12:02 50 percent of the time works every time
→(*꒪ヮ꒪*)→
4:53 wow that wavu wavu
Kazuya "what's for breakfast". What move is that?
Phew that was nerve wracking! Awesome set ♥️
"Kazuya brings outs the Kazuya.. The defense in Kazuya" Love you TMM lol
lmao at TMM referring to Knee as Bryan at the start there:D
I can't believe Charlie Puth plays Tekken and have only hundreds subscribers
Haha finally someone else who thinks they look alike
17:04 as soon as i saw this i knew he was dead. Because he didn't break it right there and then.
Knee's the best Kaz cause he doesn't rely on the gimmicky 50/50 vortex bs that 95% of "Cosplayers" abuse. having a high success rate, risking your life with 50/50's doesn't make you good with any character. just means you're probably compensating for your lack of fundamentals and also lucky.
The reason he got the screwdriver on knee is that a lot of those throws in that chain have two different inputs to choose from which lead to different breaks. It's kings true throw mixup as even if you know that is the throw chain he is going for you have to guess the input method for the throw.
He used the 2 brake route. I bet knee was mashing 1.
16:58 I don't think I've ever seen knee get caught in a chain grab. He clearly didn't see that coming.
Too much 50/50s in the screwdriver chain throw well he guessed it all wrong lol
knee got fcking mad after that screwdriver.
Mainman still doesn't know what will be for breakfast. F
I like to think it's cornflakes.
@@aripea1980 Who knows...
knee"s king also went beast mode on eyemusician yoshi
11:27
Knee: Fuck it ,Boa Luvb mode on
May be Poltan, MBC and my inspiration for king's gameplay since day 1 TRIPLE H...All these are pretty strong king players from Korea
1 Question for King s mains
Why Puma don t try to use more of king s jump knee to try to launch Kazuya?
Because is actually a very fast launch.
Knee makes 10 frame moves look like 2 frame moves.
Seems like he's living like at 2.5x speed.
Damn i love when Knee play Kazuya
Other contenders for the king of Kings beside Puma and Majin are MBC, Hokaioh, and Taiheiyo
And me
Triple H was an hell of a King player
Majin zzzz
Dear Tekken God, please, make series of videos with match-up guide "how to play against certain character", how to punish, e.t.c
Yours, Nikita
16:58 SCREWDRIVER ON KNEE!!!!
I think the name of the korean is from some small time tournaments i think, very niche and is really good at armor king, jd something from what i remembered 🤔🤔
Uhhh. JDCR?
Screwdriver on knee. The match ended there😂
Yeah TMM, u also mentioned that knee doesn't take risks in another video as well. When he started to play T7, his playstyle become more and more defensive over the years, anyway I find him Kaz more intimidating than Boa one. Back in the days of T5DR , knee with Bryan was aggressively insane af, like matches that last 10 sec more or less.
Speaking of aggressive Bryan, Knee's match with MYK back in T6 was legendary . Straight up perfected MYK with three TJUs in a row.
@@cageman301 yes man that was an awesome set. I'm not sure why he adjust he's play style but I start to think that "he plays more aggressively in tekken chapters that rewards more the defense play and vice-versa" that's it's kinda funny. IMHO he toned down is aggressive due to T7 vanilla arcade to console release and so on changes, and due to overall viable roster in tournaments, he faced a lot of aggressive new players that comes in the pro scene, I'm not surprised about knee char choices, he often going for CH monsters.
Jesus Knee makes me want to main Kazuya for ffs
Keeping aside Knee for a moment since he has always been a God-amongst-gods kind of figure. But Puma, man! I might be easily watching the second-best King in the world.
The title made me think this was a one-sided match. How wrong I was!! I look forward to seeing more of Puma!
I've only seen one other Puma vid which was against EyeMusician, so it was a complete clown show because EyeMusician.
i had watched boas vid in where he did the 8 ewgf that was so amazing imagine 8 ewgfs
Is everyone forgetting about Shrimboo as a Kazuya player? Probably the best.
Puma and MBC from Korea..
Lil Majin from the US..
Federer from Saudi..
And the Japanese one.. forgot the name..
Taiheijo and Hakaioh
you probably wont read this but can u upload videos on 1080p?
11:05 insane!
12:02, "50% of the time, it works every time." That math doesn't make sense.
You going to watch The Bryan Mirror match between naps and multi?
Can you mute the commentary in the video before doing your own? The game's audio is almost muted in any case.
No because you have to hear the *DORYA*
@@davipenha yea, and the sound of the electrics.
The best King is Hakaioh. But Puma, Taiheiyo, Ahsan, Lil Majin (in his better days), and MBC (pretty much retired from tournaments) among others are very strong players as well.
Puma kind of just gave up in the end. He choked in the moment when you should have gone a bit oppressive with the pressure
Gotta mention Hakaioh and Taiheiyo as well when talking about the best Kings
Japan doesn't exist in TMM's head outside mainstream international players like Chikurin, Noroma, Nobi, Double and Take.
At this point from where I'm observing (semi new to Tekken) Knee is known for playing other characters at a really high level, he truly is Mokujin but that means he doesn't specialize with characters tho, Jimmy does crazy optimal stuff with Bryan and brings Bryan into a spotlight same with Lil Majin his King is awesome cause he brings out the inner King, but Knee is a great player and no one can ever take that away from him he just isn't the best with a singular character like everyone keeps clinging to.
thanks~! themainman 😸👍
Hey man i wanted to ask, can Leroy parry negans db2 bat low?
varun singh only out of hermit
@@justthescoop1576 didnt get what you're saying
varun singh he’s saying he can low parry with the hermit stance not the universal low parry
@@CJayy oh crap I missed mentioning hermit, I was asking for it specifically lol alright
His name is hakiaoh i believe and there is another korean king monster called taiheyo i think.
I remember taiheyo playing king in either the twt lcq or evo japan 2020.
They are both japanese.
@@c.t.a.5983 damn. That guy is a bigot smh
@@jeremyfuller7730 Did you listen to what mainman was saying? He said that there was another Korean King main, and told people to comment his name. Dude above quite rightly stated the above king players are both Japanese. So what's your problem?
@@dereban5654 didn't get the reference huh?
11:03 damn
There was a super strong Korean King main called 'Triple H'. I wonder if he still plays Tekken.
He sadly quit. One of the absolute best.
Noticed Puma didn't use ff+1 like at all. Is Kazuya able to react pewgf before king hits him?
8:45 hit me deep
I think Knees only real weakness is he plays too safe and solid. If went went a little crazy/random at times he would probably be damn near unstoppable.
That full grab chain to screwdriver...THIS IS WHY I HATE FIGHTING KING!!!
Cant compare anyone to Majin,he is king of Kings
got to love a good king match
I especially loved the part where he did back turned JGS into moonsault. I love mixing it up between that or his clothesline unblockable. It’s hits a whole lot more often than you would expect.
Does ANYBODY know how Knee is mist stepping like that?
The best Kings are.....
Lil Majin
Puma
MBC
Top 3. Despite playing the same character at a high level they all having vastly different playstyles. In fact if Lil Majin picked up some tools from MBC he's probably be top 8 every single tournament. However I think Lil Majin is the best out of the 3 based on results. Puma is just a monster when he decides to go ape shit lol
Hakaioh also
does anyone know why knee does ff4 so much on neutral? i guess its the best safe ch mid launcher?
and how in the hell do you cancel d1+2 lol never seen that
@@kujakuu Just hold back when you do it. Also yeah, that's why he uses it. Also because it actually has range unlike most of Kazuya's mids that are good. F3 isn't good enough to mash out like that and doesn't give the huge reward. Some characters can also punish it reliably.
@@VocalTK yeah i thought so... its funny how high level gameplay is so different from normal ranked play, u barely see any spam and everyone is super safe... wish i could be as defensive as knee but there is no way i can learn all the gimmicks from all the characters without doing a career on tekken xd
thanks for the cancel info!
Poltan is hes name
awesome win for Knee
I was watching this match during Math class and shouting to my partner ahahhaha
Those crouching and dashing mind fuck me. And i am just watching from youtube.
The World's Best King Puma
He won all the King's users.
japan: hakaiou , taiheiyo
He has never lost a battle against King.
React to Jimmy vs Mult Bryan Mirror match FT5
There's a King main from Pakistan not many ppl know about Gaming Beard.
I HOPE YOU ARE ALSO DOING AWESOME MAINMAN!!! 🥊💀❤️
The Man Mountain Suite.
Crazy matches!
Upload after upload, TEAM NO SLEEP
I thought it was between Hakaiou and Puma.
Lil Majin's still the best King player ...he got 3rd place at Evo 2018 and 9th place at Evo 2019 no other King player comes close to these results
True majin is the best king of all time
That was some good ass Tekken
Maybe you are talking about “POLTAN”
Dont forget MBC
You should visit Pakistan. We'd be really happy to have you here.
you mean .. MBC .. he is crazy king player
Also me a character loyalist i play kazuya but i dont know how to do the ewgf in pad yet
KYLEplayzGAMES practice a fuck ton you have a long way to go