You can't protect your behaviour in name of child welfare 😂 You not try to fix it but dividing breast feeding mother from child. Is it not stupidity? Which country law did this? Can you give us count of cases against child welfare in UN and EU ? Actually Norway don't believe in family and in family those things happen everywhere. So Norway government stole children 😮 trafficking 🤬
I was also thinking about moving to Norway in the future but after I watched the film and did a bit of research. Their are actually a lot of family's that get their child taken away for very minor things, and the parents are in distress. I get their doing their job, but if it has a lot of cases filed against them, then what the hell are they doing. Anyway's safe to say I won't be moving their any time soon
Taking away breastfeeding babies from their mothers is inhuman. Mothers who are experiencing post-partum depression and have their babies taken away is inhuman, it shows lack of empathy and compassion. Evil people can make malicious reports of their neighbors they are jealous about. There has to be a documentation of who made tehereport in order to have accountability..
*Norway. No Way* Absolutely absurd child protection laws, separating children from their parents is unimaginable & unbearable Pain is like to separate the souls of their parents. I feed my children with my hands, they don't sleep in separate rooms...they like to sleep close to me, often like hugs & kisses, I correct mistakes, scold and so on. We are very protective of our children... Everyone has their own way of raising children. The love of Indian, Asian or (other not mentioned here) parents bond between their children is very strong. All the tears of parents fighting for their children fall as a curse to this country. *I call it the Inhumane Act* Never visit Norway, especially those who have children...Scary.
She is an ex child welfare employee and I believe everything she is saying is purely out of textbooks of how they describe themselves! It would’ve felt more real if she could gave some examples of cases without disclosing names/personal information! She is being careful abt what should or shouldn’t come out of her mouth!
Thank you for your understanding. Norway is place to live and enjoy. There are social care systems for children in other countries an example in the UK why aren't people complaining about it? Because the government understand immigrants cultures and backgrounds. Yes their is a need for barnevernet I Norway as it is in all other western countries but not to a level where you are forcing foreign background Norwegian families to leave a place where they have grown up and spent most of their lives in. Not to a level where families are divided on small matters such as why are you not eating fish or cheese or why can't you speak Norwegian. It takes time to learn Norwegian and barnevernet has to understand that parent are also promoting their own language and culture to their children which they have fully right to. We Norwegians are saying that we are multi cultural society but do we understand other people societies and cultures in first place? Sadly I have to say that we don't have a clue about other cultures and approaches
@@ahmadziasaqib8 Thank you for expressing your opinion. It's informative to hear the opinion of a Norwegian citizen on this who is actually objective about it...
@@ahmadziasaqib8 people complain everywhere the system Is becane a way to male money. Expert make Money, they work with the system and increade their contracts.
First I do not have a case against Barnevernet from now on Child Protection Services and am an ethnic Norwegian. But have bin with people that have had cases with them and here is my experience. What is very frightening is that the Norwegian Child Protection Agency is not an institution for the child's best interests, but an institution that gets paid for how many cases they open and how long they last, in addition they get paid even better if they get to take over care. - The child welfare agency's interpretations have greater value than the police, and hospital or other professional personnel's assessments. - No documentation from other agencies, either public or private, will be attached to the case file if this does not speak in favor of the child protection agency. - They manipulate the "victim" into believing that they need a psychological assessment in the hope of finding something they can use against the "victim", even if this is taken out of context, just to create a negative image of the "victim". I have seen several cases where there have been demonstrably incorrect interpretations from the child protection system which are not emphasized because the child protection system has a different opinion. This is therefore not documented in the case file. This is horribly reminiscent of the tater persecution in Norway up until the 80s and 90s. The same type of "helpers" only now a different type of "victim". This is an agency that works on the basis that opinions, gossip and rumor-mongering are more important than hard facts from doctors, psychologists, police or other professionals. This has ended up in an extreme witch-hunt due to the fact that the child protection agency MUST prepare cases for and receive sufficient payment from the state. My experience from several cases where I have been involved as a support person for the "victim" has not changed, even though I thought it would be possible to see some sunny stories the times I have been involved. What I see are "interrogation methods" and manipulation that would have been punishable if the police had done this. These are methods and reporting systematisation that are reminiscent of regimes where it applies and indicate neighbours, pupils, colleagues and other people in the immediate environment in search of a new "victim" and questioning which Norway so nicely says we do not support. So why is this then legal in child protection?? I use the description "victim" provenly since that is what this poor person is, who has become entangled in the poisonous cobweb of child protection. We have to stop and call this child protection, because they don't protect children, they protect their jobs and their income, unfortunately. And that's the truth, This is an agency with to little education to have that kind of power....
@@Mantus77 I live here and I still don’t know how it’s possible. The excuse is that they are doing it “since it’s the best for the kids” believe it or not. They really don’t understand that the kids are getting psychological problems because of the “help” they are giving. And allot of reporting is saying that a high percentage are turning into criminals. So hurray for the good work. Please do me a favor everyone that’s reading this, and talk about it with other people and maybe just maybe some with some kind of power will ask our politicians why they are doing this.
Norway is a democracy, right? So if this is a known problem, can people not pressure for change through your elected representatives? Or filing lawsuits, assuming civil litigation is possible in Norway? I don't understand how this benefits the government of Norway overall. As an Indian-American, I firmly believe no agency of the State should have unchecked power.
Until and unless there is abuse, no one has the authority to take the child away from parents! Neglect definition varies. Basically, this department is making money by showing what they are needed. Creating a need is their survival tactic. These things are not rumor. They took away kids' bases: "child eating with hand or leaving the food because the child did not want to eat."
Just because she didn’t act with Norwegian standards and was hand feeding her kids, she was judged to be mentally unfit to raise kids 😮 taking kids at this early age from their comfort zone and their parents is just unsafe and insane and would definitely affect the one’s self security. This child welfare should be banned Who would have thought that such a barbarian act is still happening in 2023😮
I had to turn this off. As an American who lives in Norway and has been through experiences with barnevernet i can say it was the most cultural diminishing and stressful experiences I've ever had in my life. I live in Oslo, id be very happy to talk about my experience versus your Norwegian work colleague whos defending this institution. Oh the child isn't laying, they're just making things up. Perfectly explains how this woman is defending this outrageous institution.
@Vikram Gupta read about it .. There where actual Nazis in Norway and Sweden but unlike German Nazis how had to face defeat, humiliation and criminal trials ...these guys went unnoticed and untouched and shaped the society and thinking..
This is the scariest thing I heard in years, what is left for parents if their children are separated from them on frivolous grounds, hell seems better than Norway.
Growing up in a home where the child is exposed to violence is hell for the child. If you are unable to raise children without using violence, do not come to Norway. We don't need people who can't handle children without becoming violent.
It is up to a parents how to raise their kids. Govt. has no business in it. I dropped my plans to move to Nordic countries after hearing so many horrible stories from parents about how their kids were taken away by the govt .
It is horrible organization, they stole children from eastern european families and their only option to see their kids again was to kidnap them back. There was one family from Poland who told her daughter that her grandmother died and Barnevernet came and said that it is child abuse to tell to you kids that someone died and took her away
'Stories like 'my parents hit me' by itself should not be a problem.' The case of Russian-American Natalya and her children who were taken into care should be an indication that this isn't true. Because the eldest said her parents hit her, and her and her siblings were kidnapped in the middle of the night and are still in care, even though she said she'd made it up because she was angry with her mum.
I think there's more to that story than what you know, as she mentioned in the video - a accusation/allegation itself of that should not be a problem. All the cases with barnevernet, their main focus is the safety and wellbeing of the child, and they would potentially have found other reasons for the parents to not be suitable or able provide the care to the child.
@@BlameItOnTheADD There's no more into the story. I read about hundreds of cases. Whistleblowers from inside the agency talking about how they are pressured to close cases quickly, and children stay with foster parents until 18. It's inhumane. Norway is a ridiculous country. In one case of Indian parents, they claim a three months baby was staring at the social worker when she entered the room, that means she bonded with her, and the mother will lose her child. It's documented. Shame on you.
@@BlameItOnTheADD regner med du er norsk(I believe you are Norwegian) if you are then you can’t have had anything to do with the Barnevern, I have never personally had any issues with them, but been a support person for people who have, and my god what an eye opener that was. They are not filling anything that’s positive about the parent that’s accused no matter how much they are proving Barnevernet wrong, if they are having the idea that the parent is not a good parent, well then it’s not a thing what you as a parent can prove to be true, but what they are saying you are. There are doctors who say to accused parents “I’m not sure if it’s a good idea to have me in to represent you, because they are not going to listen to me. And are turning my words so it sounds negative against you”. You are acting like a common naive Norwegian that doesn’t understand that there are happening human rights violations in our country right in front of your nose. I have heard phone calls that children have recorded and put out on the internet, where Barnevern agents are trying to manipulate the child to think in that case the mother are not normal, the conversation even goes to a point where the child is starting to cry and the Barnevern agent just keeps going… There are even statistics that say that a high percentage of the children are ending up as criminals because of the stay in Barnevernet’s care. Yeah I am Norwegian and have seen how they work… I feel this video is an attempt to make it look better but ended up like a child busted stealing candy..
For context, I am from New Zealand originally, have a 4 year old daughter. We moved to Poland several years ago and in general we were very happy there. I got a job in Finland recently, we moved there and were quite unhappy with their culture, especially the way they treat children. Children are unhappy, stern, severe, etc, they also do not socialise, coming from Poland it was such a shock. I was really considering Norway as somewhere we might move, but the notoriety of this agency really put me on edge. I have issues with their over-reaching powers, I would never move to a country where my own child could be taken away for something as minor as suspicions, my overall impression is that they do not engage in discussions in good faith to determine the truth, or what is the most beneficial outcome for the child and their family. In New Zealand we have an agency called CYF that more or less has the same goal, but they would only take away a child if it was truly detrimental to their welfare, cases such as physical or sexual abuse, serious domestic violence - basically the threshold for intervention seems to be much higher, and even if an intervention took place, I would have faith that if there was a misunderstanding, with the help of lawyers and/or the Police, you could get your children back. I do not see that as the situation in Noway, it's almost as if the only situation I would consider to live there would be if I had a yacht on which I could escape from their clutches should they suspect my family of neglecting my child for, I don't know, not brushing their hair or something incredibly stupid.
Norway is an elongated country with great distances. There are many small, isolated communities with a few thousand inhabitants. If you are to be able to help the children, you must necessarily be close to them.
I think in norway, government always assume that parents are always the abuser while when other real predator prey on kids, they let these predator get away from it.
this woman makes me cringe. She uses the typical Scandinavian tactic of playing innocent, caring and reassuring. "These are only rumors you have nothing to fear." The truth is that this government organization has lost several cases at the human rights court in Strassbourg. Still Norwegian politicians keep pouring in money to Barnevernet as if it was the only institution that can do anything for Norwegian kids.
She made no secret of the fact that Norway has lost some cases in Strasbourg, but she also said that the Norwegian child protection agency learns from those cases, to prevent it from happen again. I have worked as a teacher all my working life, and have been in contact with many children. I have never experienced that children have been taken out of the family, but I have many times experienced that the child protection service has been of help to families who are struggling.
@@ahkkariq7406 my experience is that neither the Norwegian government or media cares, Rather then investigating what has happened barnevernet receives more funding. Looking into what has happened takes the courage to question the State makes no mistakes philosophy that we have here.
I read about hundreds of cases. Whistleblowers from inside the agency talking about how they are pressured to close cases quickly, and children stay with foster parents until 18. It's inhumane. Norway is a ridiculous country. In one case of Indian parents, they claim a three months baby was staring at the social worker when she entered the room, that means she bonded with her, and the mother will lose her child. It's documented. Shame on you.
I've heard a lot about this dystopian organisation , but the case you've described (taken away for looking at social worker) is just insane. Could you provide a source for it?
This could be why Norway is often called a cold country; you do not always see parents hug their children. I live in Norway, and what I find weird is that they leave their children outside in prams in all weather whilst the parents are in the cafe. However, I have seen less of it in recent years. Also, it does not matter what the culture is; not everyone raises children the same way. I agree that smacking is not the way foreward; however, I know of a colleague whose child said something to her teacher, and the teacher misinterpreted the child. So she called the child-welfare, and then there was a huge investigation. My colleague was Norwegian. So it does not just happen to foreigners in Norway.
The fact that you do not understand why Norwegians let children sleep outside in the cold does not mean that it is wrong. As far as I know, it has not happened that children sleeping in prams outside cafes in Norway have disappeared, so it is safe to let children sleep in prams. It says something about the security in Norwegian society, and should be something you value. It is also common to have a small electronic baby monitor in the pram, so you can keep an eye on the child at all times, even if you are indoors yourself. I myself have had children sleeping outside in many degrees of cold, but they have always been warm. When you dress the child in several layers of wool and put him in a sleeping bag that is well insulated, the child does not suffer any distress. Children who sleep outside in the cold develop a stronger immune system, which is necessary when living in a cold country like Norway. They usually sleep very well in the fresh air, often for several hours at a stretch. The parents will check if the child is well by sticking their fingers under the clothes at the child's neck. As long as the child's neck is warm, there is no danger. Norwegian parents have experienced from childhood how important several layers of wool is as an insulation material. I have worked as a teacher all my working life, and have unfortunately seen far too many immigrant children who come to school in the winter cold, dressed in nylon and cotton. Many have bad shoes and the girls in particular wear decorative coats and indoor dresses when what they really need are waterproof and comfortable outer garments that release the snow and prevent it from getting in at the ankles, waist, wrists and neck, and warm woolen inner clothes. Norwegian parents love their children so much that they prepare them for a life in one of the world's coldest and darkest countries. Just because you haven't seen people handing out hugs in public doesn't mean they don't get hugs and love when you don't see it. I am a former teacher, and have seen thousands of parents who hug their children when they pick them up from kindergarten and school. Immigrants are free to leave if they don't like it here, and to be honest, better not come if you think you know better how to handle the life in the land of our ancestors. There is no compulsion to live here, but I understand that free money is tempting for many.
Where has she seen this type of protocols in practice? They almost never talk to parents. Already the school is part of the system, and they will often speak and twist kids words or attitudes by thinking that something is wrong at home. Parents won't know nothing until kids are taken away, which happens often when kids are at school. This is where they will tell you how and why the kids were taken. From that moment, kids are in danger for they future, going from foster houses, or kids institutions. Siblings are separated, because fosters home might not be able to take them all. When it comes to immigrants, it's a cultural problem that the country it's pretty much ethnocentric about it, and disregard the fact that immigrants parents face the cultural shock in how to raise and educate their kids to be good citizens. Her speech it's pathetic because she describes something that its further from the reality. Then no one speak about how much money foster homes receive per child per month 🤔. They should use it to help parents and strenghten families instead.
on the basis of culture differences they take away ur child. We know Mrs chatterjee's case very well. These Norwegians are currently living in a great place but they will burn in hell bcz they take away the most sweet child from them.
Norwegian Child Service doesn't care about The Child wellness. Its about controlling their citizens. I guess some of them has the knowlege, reality sense and empathy. But The system works as stalkers when a family is vulnerable, spesially financially. Is a huge loyality in health-care, kinder-garden, school, mental health system, media and legal system. It's totally disfuntional for a family even if the have etnisk background. 💔
For those thinking about moving to Norway because it seems like an idyllic country to live and raise a family, please heed the old saying: “The grass is not always greener on the other side”. Because I’m here to tell you-it ain’t! Sure, Norway has some pluses, but there are also a lot of negatives. Still, if you insist that you still want to give it a go, I strongly recommend that you be completely ready to give up your norms, background (this includes your higher education & work experience), culture, and identity, and fully immerse yourself in a highly homogeneous, nationalistic society that believe themselves to be far superior to any other countries, especially the other Scandinavian countries-and more specifically Sweden. If you can not do that, then you might want to rethink Norway. I’m an American married to a Norwegian. We have been married for 23 years (together for 27 years). After we married, my husband and I decided that we would live in the US, and at some point we would spend some time living in Norway, too. We would alternate with his family-one year we would go to Norway on vacation, the following year his family would vacation in the US. This went on for many years, and it worked, but always his parents wanted us to move to Norway, especially after our son was born in 2003, but life just kept getting in the way. My husband and I both had great jobs in the US, we had a strong community that we belonged to, we were happy, our son was happy & thriving… we were living the American dream, so there never seemed to be a good time or reason to move to Norway. Then two things happened that made us think it was now or never: Trump happened, and our son was entering his high school years. We packed up and moved to Norway in 2018. After years of vacationing in Norway to spend time with husband’s family, NOTHING could have prepared me for how overall disappointing the whole experience was for me & my husband (who says that it’s not the same Norway he grew up in); and how difficult it was for our son who was really homesick for his life & for his friends in the US; and struggling academically in school-which in turn affected his self-confidence and self-esteem. He did make a few school friends in Norway, but he was so unhappy living there. He hated that he wasn’t doing well in school because his Norwegian was rudimentary at best, and *the school taught in Norwegian. My husband and I were growing increasingly concerned because our son started showing all the signs of being depressed (not eating well, sleeping a lot, dark circles under eyes, tuning out). It was so frustrating for me that my in-laws answer was to just speak Norwegian when we were around them. The feelings of isolation was overwhelming and intense. Around this time, I stumbled across a barnevernet story that-I kid you not-made my hair stand on end! I discussed this story with my husband, and asked if we needed to be worried about barnevernet showing up on our doorstep one day. He assured me that wouldn’t happen. I can honestly say that I didn’t believe my husband. Not because I thought he was lying, but because he assumed that Norway was incapable of violating human rights. My thoughts were: If Norway can remove children from families through state-sponsored, forced adoptions over something so ridiculous as eye-contact, hand-feeding, co-sleeping… basically, anything that Norway finds culturally unacceptable… in my mind, it wasn’t a far stretch for me to think that it could happen to my family. In January 2020, my son and I moved back to the US (husband followed later-he had to await a new work visa, and of course the whole pandemic). My son graduated with honors from high school in 2022, and got into his first-choice, too-rated university where he has maintained a 3.60 GPA and has made the Dean’s List. More importantly: he. is. thriving. As a parent, you never want your child to suffer. You move mountains to give your child a strong foundation to help navigate life. And it absolutely blows my mind that Norway allows the barnavernet organization to act with impunity towards Norwegian society, seemingly without oversight or repercussions. What they should be doing is pouring resources into doing what ever they can to keep families together, and the children safe, by teaching these struggling families parenting skills/life skills instead ripping families apart. Temporarily, or permanently, removing children should be the last resort. Now, just imagine what a shit-hole of an organization like barnevernet would have done to me and my family had they been alerted about our son’s depression. I have no doubt they would have labeled us as bad parents. *I never took the time to actively learn Norwegian in all the years we’ve been together; and my husband didn’t actively teach our son to speak Norwegian. So our son only knew a few basic words here and there.
Very interesting story. My only experience with Norway was visiting "Norway" in WDW/Epcot (restaurant etc.) My impression of Norway was always positive until I saw the new Indian movie a few nights ago. Shocking and disturbing. This is not a criticism, but there is some irony in you leaving the US because of Trump to go to a country that apparently has no system of checks and balances. You did confirm what I was piecing together, Norway is so intent on preserving their culture, they are willing to accept loss of certain freedoms to attain it.
Trump happend was everything I needed to know from your comment. You moved from US because of Trump? That's the most telling from your kilometer long essay. Yoh wanted liberal leftist society there you and it on a silver platter in form of gestapo Norwegian CPS.
The stories you hear about child protection will always be one-sided. The parents will often come out with their stories, but the child protection service is prevented from saying anything about the real reason why they acted as they did. I'm not saying that mistakes haven't been made, because mistakes will always happen when people are involved. After all, you yourself made a mistake when you moved to Norway, and luckily corrected the mistake by moving back. I have worked as a teacher in Norway all my working life, and what you say about your son is completely normal when you uproot a young person from their familiar environment and move them to a country with a different language and a different culture. In all my years in the Norwegian school system, I have never experienced that child welfare services have taken children out of the family. In contrast, I have seen many times that they have come in with help and support for struggling families. However, I have seen children who have been placed in foster homes, and who were therefore pupils at my school. These were abused children who had been destroyed by their parents. Violence is inherited, unfortunately. Therefore, the pattern must be broken, and if the parents are unable to do so, it is society's duty to ensure that this happens. Otherwise, I understand that it can be a shock for Americans to move to Norway. Norway is not America. We are a small, homogenous country that has been under the control of other countries for centuries, and we are not ashamed of our country. Our relationship with the Swedes is like a sibling relationship. The Swedes think we are envious of them, and look up to them like a big brother. It's just bullshit, so we kick them in the shin when we can. We argue, but it is a friendly argument based on love and respect. I otherwise follow American politics and welfare, and am more concerned about children who grow up in poverty and with violence in American cities than about children who grow up in Norway. Unheard of that the terrible Trump will do something for these children. Horrible.
this looks very rosy, but when i see all the human right interviews with professionals of lawyers ex judges ex foster family and physiologists they say totally different things on many documented cases. What they say that is due to on minor minor reasons one would lose their kids for life. Not only that but kids face trauma, serious abuse, and psychological issues and extreme higher suicidal rate in what is should be their safe guard from their biological parents. Listening to those stories are real heart breaking
@@kakefyll read about the the 14 verdicts of ECHR against barnervarnet … soon it will be total of 40 verdicts.. no other country in Europe is even close
@@LasVegar whatever story it might be. you cannot separate the kids from their parents period. if required teach the parents, monitor them and keep doing it until they learn or threaten them with jail but nobody should ever take kids away. that is just child trafficking in a sheep's clothing. shame on you norway
@@birdieblue19 you can't monitor a family all the time, and in the beginning usually with investigating/home checks and meetings they go through the ways to make sure everything is fine in the home and work together to make it the best for the child. Kids are only removed from the home of found to be in an unsafe environment.
I've lived in Norway for 16 years, and after my experience there's the official guidelines how barnevernet should act, and then there's what they actually do. And these sides have nothing to do with each other. In fact they shit on all laws, knowing that their colleagues from the fylkesnemnda always stand on their side. The first "court" parents have to deal with, the fylkesnemnda, belongs to the same department as barnevernet itself. Wich means: they are all working companions together. Which again means: the nemndsleder (could be described as a judge) is biased to the bone. There's no chance in hell to win there. And before you get a real chance in a real court, at least a year has passed and all good structures in the family are destroyed, which is barnevernet's intention from the beginning. They don't help families at all, that's a pure lie.
Same in Italy. When social system take your child...It take not less than 2years to have him/her back! And you Need a very strong and specialized lawer!
Honestly , the most controversial child care system is in Europe . And Europe need to change their mindset on what they do is always right. Sagarika was lucky enough as she got her child back all thanks to Indian diplomatic pressure however not everyone is lucky and now shagarika has raised children pretty well . Where is the incapacity or incapablity . Stop this shabby system under which you provide employment. Most disgusting system ever
I think the solution to this issue is to have a certain amount of integration of people in the child welfare services who are not Norwegian , that way I feel the opinion regarding how children should be treated will get diversified in a sense that with a proportionate diversity in the child welfare services itself as that of the demographics the a varied view of how to raise a child can be entertained.
I suppose that in Norway the problem is far more serious. I would not be surprised if a paedophile racket has infiltrated this govt dept. It's ridiculous how anyone in Norway can report a child issue. That process is open to misuse. Norwegian culture has little respect for family and private life and is probably quite narcissistic. Indian culture is vastly superior
Norwegians children are being abducted too. Its not just racism, its total disregard for the biological family unit and corruption. These people are evil, not lacking ideas or input.
I think the job of Barnevernet is to be a watch dog but it is being a bloodhound. That too especially in case of immigrants. All because they want to run their child welfare Industry or to provide job to their unemployed people.
Not only immigrants. Any normal family.Norwegians are robbed equally of their family.Have seen horror scenes years back .One would think it's about insane horror movies . But it's pure ,ugly reality.
@@dianet2702 it’s still the truth… We who are trying to make a difference need help from other countries since common Norwegians who have not been exposed to Barnevernet are not realizing how bad it is and are saying like a comment earlier here that “it can’t be true, there must be something else” No there isn’t… I can if I’m a “dick” call Barnevern about someone I don’t like, and say “I think they are using drugs in front of the kids” and hell is loose for them.. that’s what’s happening in some cases…
It is abysmal and pathetic to see a fellow Indian trying to paint a rosy and goody two shoes picture of the Bnet monster. India has its share of Ambhi, Jaichand and Mir Jafar through the ages. You are striving hard to get into that list. Having researched and seen the agony of so many families even Norwegian ones this should be dismantled immediately. Maybe we should report this video for trying to whitewash when Bnet has the trauma and blood of so many distraught families on their hands. Please stop this nonsense.
Not correct questions. How many Kids are taken from family in a year and last decade? How many cases did you return the kid to family? İs there ant case that you took kid just because parent shout the kid for any reason? No istatistics
This women is so very ungenuine...... it's totally obvious.... Unless a child is experiencing abuse then they should be with their parent. Cultural difference and poverty is not reason to take a, child away. I would not live in Norway..... The government has far too much power in Norway
My question to all Norwegians: Are you okay being seen as a child kidnapper country worldwide. This seems a very shameful tag for any wonderful country.
The fact that it's a 'low threshold service' is probably the most dangerous thing about it. The fact that they take kids and put them in foster care because the parents aren't perfect shows how skewed their thinking is and how little they actually know about child welfare. Foster care is generally NOT better for children than keeping them with their family. Far from it - it damages them for life. Well done Norway, for abusing children.
After watching this movie, I decided NEVER to consider Norway as an immigration option. I have no children but a Norwegian lady friend who lives in the USA. However, I won’t ever accept any hints from her to move to her country. Namaste and support to our Indian friends, from Mexico. There are better countries to consider if an immigration decision is to be taken, like New Zealand or Finland in that region.
I almost tuned out when he introduced his guest as someone who will explain how to raise kids in Norway. And he repeated that as if its a legitimate question. Its not up to a government or a third person to dictate to you how to raise your children. There were several subtle creepy undertones to this video. What an insidious society where you have to live in fear of being "reported". Sounds like "1984".
Most people do not live in fear of child protection in Norway. Treat your child with love and respect and you have nothing to fear. Also, don't forget that you always only hear one side of the story. I have worked as a teacher in Norway throughout my working life. I have seen many children who have needed help, but I have never experienced children being taken out of their families. On the other hand, I have seen many children and families who have received help and support from child protection. Otherwise, did you notice that she didn't want to tell people how to raise their children? People living in Norway have great freedom in how they raise their children as long as they are not neglected or abused. They are even allowed to let little girls walk around in head coverings because their parents consider them sexual objects, which is unheard of for Norwegians. Children are children, and should be allowed to be children. Otherwise, Norwegian children have rights as independent individuals, not as their parents' "property", with which they can do as they please.
They do know the rules but don't tell the parents. They give the parents invented rules depending on how the caseworker feels, the parents have to follow these made up rules, if they don't comply they have an excuse to take the child away. The barnevernet then have an excuse to take the child away. Every time the child moves to a new foster homes a lot of people make money. Recently it was exposed that the private foster institutions and homes where run by the barnevernet workers friends and family and money exchanged hands.
I am happy that people in the comments r honest. Germany was one of the countries trying to implement child protection services like in Norway especially in the years 2010-2020.A nightmare.A nightmare for everyone.I think this people deep down in their hard know its not right,but they r afraid to take the consequences of their actions. The trauma u cause to a child by removing him of his parents is so unbelievable. It shakes the roots of his world fir the sake of people with nice smile and wrong beliefs. The people that you r naturally trusting and bonding are being removed from you ba some superficial power of the state.I mean yes, that definitely rases obedient citizens but at what terrible, inhumane price. Have the grace to stand straight fot your actions, Norway!
But the child should not be taken away from the parents especially from immigrant parents as their culture is different.they should help the parents and the children while they are in their own house.The child welfare services should not give the children or the child to another parent or to another family of a different cultural background.lastly I would say children brought up in India and some other Asian countries are well mannered, well behaved,courteous then children from western and European countries. It is the up bringing of the parents of indian and Asian countries.
She forgets to mention that the support/assistance is filled with arrogant demeaning and not evidence based advice that you have to follow. It's a lot about the subjective opinion of the workers. There is no respect for the fact that there is differences in parenting. Schools and daycares do much of the same and send messages of concern over the silliest things, which leads to investigation from barnevern then lots of mandatory meetings and waste of time. they like to twist everything and exaggerate. For instance, your child didn't do homework one time they will write "parents struggle with supporting the child doing homework". if they had dirty clothes one time it's a hygiene problem etc. They are especially nasty towards foreigners and describe common parenting practices in other countries as aggressive (and no I'm not talking about beating your child but other things). The statistics clearly show there are a lot more messages of concern regarding parents of foreign background. Which is quite xenophobic of the supposed open and tolerant Norwegian society And its a downright lie that the concern had to be about something serious. The threshold for what cps considers a problem is very low, not high!For instance they will say someone is being aggressive if they are talking loudly! They will say it's scary for the child
This is BS. If your kids do not do their homework or show up dirt once, nothing is going to happen. NOTHING. Yes, being in the sights of BV can be intimidating, but you do not end up there for no reason at all.
@@kakefyll When BV is involved it's usually a result of a message og concern, and ppl, the schools or anyone else don't make those just for fun. No, the schools don't make them because your children misses out on the homework once. Or if the kids shows up dirty once. The part is BS. Every time you kid misses his or her homework it is registered, on our school the parents also automaticly gets a notification if this happens, so the parents are informed. If this continues, or if the kids cloths are dirty, worn, to small, not suitable for the season or weather over a period of time, then such a message might be sent. And, BV is required to investigate such concerns. If there are real concerns of physical or secual abuse then imidiate ection might be taken, pending investigation. Else BV will seak to open dialoige with the parents. Sure, this might be somewhat traumatic for the parents, but if they have not done anything wrong, there is no problem. BV is not there to care for the parents welfare, but the children's. It's better to just realize that is why they are there, and meet them at that, openly. Show you have nothing to hide. BV can also assist parents if they struggle with something. I know how this works, being a foster parent myself as well as having close relatives involved with BV on the receiving end as well. In their case they did have some problems becoming parents when they were young, having problems fully providing for the child as well as having both personal problems and a turbulent relationship. Did not loos the kids, but had to undergo some scrutiny. Then, when they broke up the ex started reporting my relative to BV for all kinda shit, not true, but they had to follow up on those reports. And, him looking like a tough guy and being a little rough in the edges when communicating with them did not help. Nothing came of it though, and after a few reports like this the ex did loose standing with BV herself. I'm not saying BV was wrong to investigate, there were things to look at, even if they did nothing harmful to the child. And when you're in the loop, they will watch you. But, point is, phe people with BV are people who need to follow up on such messages of concern. And, they might come of as arrogant, perhaps you don't feel them listening to you. This is because it's not their job to just take your side of it, but to see if there could be any harm to the child. And this is not an easy job. They are here to protect those who cannot protect them selves against abuse and neglect by the adults that should be closest to them, in accordance to Norwegian law. . This is very challenging. Try looking at this from their side as well. Sure, mistakes happen. But it is rare. And the claims on social media they BV is some form of evil entity they kidnap children to giv them to Norwegian parents is just BS.
@@KjetilBalstad It isn't rare that these so called mistakes happen though, I encourage you to read articles about Norway and lack of due process with barnevern)lawyers are concerned about this for a reason), schools sending messages of concern because parents complain (also lawyers sounding the alarm here), healthcare workers and schools sending them without good reason (research has been done on this). You absolutely do not have to be a "repeat offender" so to speak for barnevern to launch an investigation, that's a lie. they only need one message for that. And quite often they believe everything a school etc says. so all it takes is pissing off ONE wrong person. Just because it hasn't happened to you doesn't mean it doesn't happen you know. But you are just an example of why this country will never see any change of this. If we simply ignore the problem it doesn't exist. Norwegians are naive . If you can read all the articles I provide, and then also consider all the cases we have in the human rights courts, and still find there is no problem with Norwegian CPS I dont know what I can tell you. There is no convincing you if you won't look at whats right in front of your eyes. Typical Norwegian gaslighting style "ItS jUsT a fEw bAd aPpLeS". Just as bad as Americans insisting most cops are good cops. the system is still rotten. forskning.no/barn-og-ungdom-hogskolen-i-innlandet-juridiske-fag/mange-bekymringsmeldinger-til-barnevernet-skulle-ikke-vaert-sendt/1624709 idag.no/totalt-fravar-av-rettssikkerhet-i-barnevernet/19.28084 www.nrk.no/nordland/forsker-ved-universitetet-i-sor-ost-norge_-skoler-truer-ofte-med-barnevernet-nar-foreldre-klager-1.15221011 www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/sjokkdom-utloser-barnevernsbrak/75229027 www.bt.no/nyheter/lokalt/i/m5bg0/forsoekt-brukt-til-aa-fjerne-barn-fra-mor
So scary.. children are safest with their parents.. i love the asian culture of upbringing children… different countries have different culture and tradition.. everything has to be respected
Shame on the entire Norway system to announce or have such pathetic rules to separate children from their mother in the name of "development". A mother have their own way to raise their child. Just for some money Norwegian child welfare is taking the lives of mothers. It's illegal and every country and every citizen should raise their voice against this practice so that they won't dare to steal children from their parents. Shame !!
@@LasVegar Atleast Our Parents Don't get Divorced like You .They don't ask Us to move out after we are 18 . And Talking about 1.4 Billion people, That's our Strength We have Enough manpower To Invade Every Freaking Country in this World
You know what? Sue them! Sue barnevernet. Sue the women who took you. Sue those who harmed you. Go vocal about what happened to you.Write to the governement to the united nations to any organization that might listen,. Write even anonymous. Dont stay silent. Evil prevails cause good people do nothing to stop it.
wow never knew about this issue it is now highlighted with the bollywood movie mrs chatterjee vs norway.... Came here after the trailer was just released and saw some reports. It is heartbreaking to see all that and parents must have been devastated.
If Norwegian government wants to help . Barnevernet please pick up all the millions of children from India who are facing poverty and bad living conditions and please move them to Norway for the incredible life they deserve. Can't believe a nation that calls itself developed is corrupt at the cost of despair and pain of families and their children. Best advice don't go to Norway.
Norway has a child protection service. It's not a welfare offer. It's to protect children. The wrong things are that people overreact and report parents for many mistaken things. Barnevernet " child protection services " also have many people work there. Many are not doing a good job, some do an ok job. And some do actually a good job. Not many men work in the child protection services, so you get an angeling from a woman's point of view most times. They idea about protecting children is good. But the actions taken " how child protection services " in Norway do it, is often wrong, and based on 2 persons beliefs rather than facts ( based on skilled knowledge ). Social workers often work in child protection services. Instead of use more with a bachelor in psychology. Also more men should work there, to get different views. The try to do better, but it really come down to what person you meet there. Child protection services in Norway, actually has for years been extremely bad. And sadly people from other countries may also experience racism. People should know : serious worries about children, that and ONLY serious worries should be reported in to child protection services. Maybe , not sure, I dont like them and so on should NOT be reported in. And child protection services should screen better, before taking a case. They do harass families !! And they are far from good.
Also Norway has a total population of 5.4 million people. No chance that so many not care enough for their children. Child protection services, children schools, kindergartens and children health care centres, report in a lot of parents on grounds that don't have enough substance. All reports on anyone's child as well as parents stay with the child. So if you meet 1 that for some reason don't like you. Or made up their mind before meet you. Than you get problems. So it's dangerous as the worst result is that they take your child / children from you, and out them in foster homes. It's gone too far, and Norway is not a good country to have children in. Even birth rate in Norway go down = less children is born in Norway. The child protection service cases go up. It do not make sense. It's a lot of overreactions. And that is NOT a good thing. Norways child protection services do too many mistakes, interpret laws wrong and some even seem to have a personal agenda against parents. With so few people in the country, but so many cases in the child protection services it show things are very wrong. The best for the child = is not to have stressed out parents. Every child have it best with its biological parents. It's just gone too far, and it's very bad in Norway for children and parents. And this is true about the child protection services. Child protection services should help children and parents. It's supposed to be good. But too many do so bad job, its not good, its danger and stress for parents and children. And that has never been the goal of politicians or law makers. How do these people treat their own children and grand children at home after job ? They come home stressed out, much negative and sad feedback. How do they cope to be good parents after this job ? And over time how do a stressed, over worked person do a good job ? Ofcourse this affect their job, their judgement. That is why it all work so wrong and so bad. That's why it's a dangerous child protection services in Norway.
In 2014 it was born 60.025 children in Norway. That was yhe total in the year 2014. In 2014 child protection services took 5 children from their parents every day. 5 x 365 days = 1825 children. In that year 2014, was really 1825 parents that bad parents ? I think its a lot of overreaction, misunderstanding about culture differences. And many extremely bad workers in the child protection services. In 2021 it was born 56.060 children in Norway. Birthrate go down. And about 3 children was taken from their parents every day. 3 x 365 = 1095. 56.060 born and 1095 children taken by child protection services. The numbers are too high. Most that gave birth in 2021 was people from other countries. Eg mum Norwegian and dad from another country. Or both parents from another country. Very few Norway man and women got children. So one have to ask if it is elements of racism ( not understanding ) different cultures in this too. And again that is NOT GOOD !
Parents love their children. When child protection services take their kids, parents actually have committed suicide. Other parents have fled to other countries with their children like Argentina, Thailand and more, to get away from a very bad and dangerous Norwegian child protection services. The Norwegian child protection services ( Norway government ) lose cases in the EU Court as well. Its well proven that the child protection services, schools, children health care centres, are very far from good. Child psychologists that's brought in by the child protection services are often not good, they tend to read papers and make up their minds before meet children and families. It's a nasty and sick culture and environment. And most of the criticism they get is actually correct. It's horrible
Hey, I think you mentioned in the video that there was an English language version of that site. The only link is In Norwegian. We’re early in the process of deciding where to immigrate to, currently looking hard at Norway, and while I’m learning the language, I don’t have enough to navigate the website yet. Is there an English language site? It seems like at a minimum, Barnavernet has a major communication issue, and I realize they can’t comment on specific cases, but if even the citizens of Norway don’t know what criteria they’re expected to keep to, someone in the communications part of that organization has failed at their job. There’s a ton about Norway we want in our lives, but not having a clear answer to the question of “what standard will I be expected to maintain” when the consequences for failure to meet that unspoken or poorly communicated standard is up to and including loss of our child, is really giving us pause. The one thing that’s been clearly communicated is no corporal punishment, which great! That’s easy. Everything else it’s just vague references to “concern for the well-being of the child,” and maybe that’s something that people who grew up in that culture absorb by osmosis, though I’d question whether that’s the case when native Norwegians live with some amount of fear that they’ve run awry of this organization, but regardless, immigrants cannot be expected to have absorbed the knowledge one gets from growing up in a country. I recognize that it’s not possible to completely eliminate subjectivity from the equation, but the inscrutability of an organization that has enormous power to absolutely ruin the lives of anybody affected by its actions, especially the children it’s putting into foster care is a problem, especially when that organization has been found guilty of human rights abuses in international courts. Everything I’ve seen about Norway tells me that, while the country doesn’t always get it right, it’s generally looking to be a positive force, and when it finds out it’s been majorly wrong to the tune of human rights abuses, it tends to step in and fix things, so hopefully those court cases lead to some change. An excellent step 1 to changing that would be to put out some sort of clear communication regarding what is and is not expected of parents, preferably in multiple languages, preferably somewhere easy to find.
Thank you so much for filming this, by the way. You’ve asked exactly the questions we’ve been asking around here, trying to puzzle out exactly what we’d be walking into. There’s a game show on Dropout (comedy streaming service) called Game Changer. Its premise is that the game changes every time, and the contestants don’t know the game up front and have to figure it out live from context clues. It’s a fun and hilarious show. What’s not fun or hilarious is an organization with a reputation for taking peoples’ children with a heavy emphasis on immigrants and people of color (which whether true or not is absolutely the organization’s reputation) being run like this game show. That’s just a recipe for traumatized children, traumatized parents, and distrust in government.
Thanks for sharing your perspective. You managed to communicate quite well what's problematic from an outside/immigration viewpoint. Thank you. This sort of input is way more valuable than emotionally dominated black/white comments.
Who the hell is this lady …. Why are they not acknowledging the horrible CPS…. to give a podium for a person like her to justify and praise this cruelty … I don’t get it…
Rather not move to this country which has false representation in the world as a free country and evryone is happy , it must be scary for immigrants to move to a country which has no tolerance for cultures from outside norway . Shameful .
Neighborhood and stranger don't see kids 24 hours their family always been there so if he is doing something bad he/she should be punished and it's the right of parents . There is a line between punishment and torturing which vary in different country
I only speak Ukrainian. I am using google translator. Therefore, please excuse me if the translation is bad! I am from Western Ukraine. I am a nurse and I save lives. I live now in Germany. I need a lawyer to file, with other disabled citizens of Ukraine, a lawsuit against Norway. My husband, a Ukrainian (oil worker, human rights activist) became disabled as a result of his defense of the rights of other people (Norwegian and Russian media for 9 years). My husband fought corruption in the Russian oil giant, which was headed by the founder of the 6th Directorate of the FSB and the ex-Chancellor of Germany. My husband defended the rights of disabled people and Ukrainians in Norway against Russian-speaking citizens of this NATO country. The Norwegians took my disabled husband to Moscow AFTER: anti-war pickets of my husband in the Russian Federation, his defense of the rights of Ukrainians in Norway, the issuance of documents to my husband by the Norwegian Red Cross for his close relatives (Polish servicemen repressed by the Russians), sentencing his defender to prison (in married to a citizen of Finland for 25 years) in Belarus, who reported the crime of the Norwegians against the Ukrainians and was recognized as a Political prisoner. My husband and his lawyer warned the Norwegians about the coming war, but they did not believe him. The husband was kidnapped and the war began. And after the war began, the Norwegians do NOT admit their mistakes! Unlike the Swedes, the Norwegians DO NOT LIKE to admit their mistakes even when the Chechen refugees deported by the Norwegians were killed in the Russian Federation (Norwegian media).m
What rights does Barnvernet get to tell how to raise children when they are corrupted. How can Norway assure their welfare system is genuine. Why don’t emphasize on these? Supported service you mean Taking away children? What about the psychiatrist who was caught in pornography who was part of decision making committee. Are you telling rest of the world doesn’t know how to raise kids?
The movie of Mrs bullshiter vs Norway is complete lies and Indian style exaggeration. The whole case was not accurate as presented in that Indian movie 😂
The CWS is not training their personnel about the parent-child bonding and not only children only without feeling for the parents in any way. Why do the family case hearings are held in camera? Is such secrecy in at all good for anyone of children and parents. Why percentage of sexual crimes in the children brought up under foster parents going high. How the CWS ensures the quality of parenting provided by foster parents are better than the biological parents? These are never evaluated. Why the evaluation process is so secret and ex-parte? Emotions are human quality and not being ruthless. Why people are afraid of the CWS.
Off course she will in day support of as she is ex employee. Where is the credibility. And interviewer seems to be afraid of her, I see he is just nodding without any questioning.
Thank God sagarika fought and took away their kids from that country ....please look many other links, many other families that went through this,, that shows its a big business scandal where children are abused in the name of foster care..
Given that all people have implicit biases and Norway is no exception, I would probably not risk being a foreigner and going to a country where a bureaucrat has the power to kidnap your children (for their own good, of course). To be honest, I don't think Barnevernet is that much worse than other power structures in European countries. But who was in their life in contact with any institution and saw what a mess it could be when you are trying to simply register a brand new car with your department of motor vehicles, where a nasty bitter bureacrat is sitting, who had a bad day and now decides to make a bad day for you as well, you get the idea. Now imagine it's not your car (or built permit or whatever), but your children. On the whole, it might be better if one child is taken unjustly from decent parents, rather than hundreds of children being left to be abused like in other countries. But I just don't want my kids to be in any risk of being a collateral of a inherently human (thus totally fallible) system.
I am happy today my parents hit me during my childhood when I did anything terribly wrong. This made me strong and take right decisions. In the end no third person can love child more than parent. There can be bad moments but not bad parent. These people need to travel world to see cultural differences and no culture is bad, it is right in its way.
In Norway you do not hit a child, same as you should not hit an adult. You do not assault another human. If you have to hit somebody, you have lost control. Your parents lost control the second they laid a finger on you. You may have felt like you were being "controlled" but It is not through "discipline" that has made you "strong and right decisions" - it's trauma, darling. Whatever false rose-tinted feeling of 'respect' you have for your family is actually just hardened fear. Would your parents also hit each other I wonder?
@@BlameItOnTheADD That is why Norway is a dying race today and very soon all that will be left in Norway are immigrants. A society without any family bonding in an cold, soul less, heartless, suffocating society does not survive. They become extinct.
@@BlameItOnTheADD The problem is the child services taking away kids when they are not abused. Any crazy neighbor can complain. No agency is above law and is to be held accountable. Else parents live in constant fear.
@Anne Nordland the reason u explained is not valid also ur girls and boys are converting already there will be no Norway culture anymore after 30 year
As a Norwegian mother of four and former teacher, it is fascinating and frightening to see how many people who have never set foot in Norway, but who still think they are fully educated in how Norwegian society works. Most Norwegians know that there have been cases where Norwegian child protection has made mistakes, but we also know that we need child protection for the simple reason that not everyone who becomes a parent is able to raise the child in safety and with love. We know that child protection has been judged in several cases internationally, and appreciate that they are working to improve. We also know that we only hear the parents' version of the various cases that are mentioned in the media, and that child protection cannot release information. I don't believe for a moment that everyone who has been deprived of their children is telling the truth without hiding anything. It is in human nature to lie to protect yourself. My best advice to people from other parts of the world who think they are experts in Norwegian child protection is that you don't come to Norway. We don't need people who can't raise their children with love and respect to become free individuals. Neglected or abused children will develop problems, and the violence will follow the generations. The possibility that such children will not function as future contributors to Norwegian society is great. They will possibly be better off where the family belongs, with their cultures norms and traditions.
Family doesn't mean ...there are no problem! Family Life is not "be perfect". I Will be afraid of "no problem families". We see the result in the High % of suicide in Norway
@@peggyclio1199 Maybe you should check what the suicide rate in Norway actually is before you spread myths? It is no worse in Norway than in other western countries. Austria, Switzerland, France, Australia, Canada and Germany are just a few western countries that have a higher suicide rate than Norway. Portugal has about the same rate as Norway - can you explain their figures with the same reasons?
It's called barnevern ( og verne barn ). Verne = protect in English. So barnevernet = child protection services. Norway has not now or ever before had a child " welfare " service. Welfare services in Norway is handled by another government agency called NAV. TRY GET IT CORRECT IN ENGLISH.
So the state decide who are good parents by “assessing” the parenting style based on concern raised by a neighbor who doesn’t know the culture of a country different from yours. How INTOLERANT so if I am in Norway I have to let go of my culture and practice to bring up my daughter and adhere to what the state say NOT HAPPENING BRO I can’t believe this practices are still happening. And they call it a democratic country no wonder the social scene in that country is as cold as it’s weather.
Taking a child away from their natural family is atrocious. State can not take child away forcefully with out parents consent. A state is not giving birth to a child but a mother do. Such brutality is violation of human rights. Nobody can take care a child like a mother.
@@ProfessorPrel generics can not be applied. There will be cases but if separation is an agenda built to a system then that is not justified. First priority of the state shall be reunion of child and parent not separation.
What I hate about child welfare service in all countries is that they support kids from Abuse, physical and verbal, which is good but they dont chose to speak to kids that abuse the parents. I know patents that are physically, verbally and emotionally abused by their kids just because they could threat their parents for calling the child care service. I know a parent whose child started smoking Marjuana at age 14. She was not happy when she found out so she tried to have conversation with her about not smoking it again. The next day when she went to school they stopped her from picking her up and told her she would be picked by a welfare worker. She later on found out that the daughter lied to the teacher that she beat her. After a couple of months it was proved that she was not beaten and even the daughter agreed that she lied about it. Yet they moved the custody to the father who the mother divorced for beating her. When the mother confronted the daughter regarding Marjuana smoking which she still does, she said "even my case worker said there is nothing wrong in smoking Marjuana" its been 4 years now and the child dropped out of school tried commiting sucide and does not speak to the mother any more. Still smokes Marjuana and the mother thinks she is into other drugs too. The only thing Welfare did was screw up this family forever. When the mother approached the Child services to ask then to help her rebuild her relationship with her daughter, she was told "Child Welfare cant help you with that" Then she asked who can "They said there is no department for that."
This is a very sad sad case of government poking its nose in all family matters. Let the family handle it. These western countries have broken family system and so have no idea or faith about how beneficial it is for the children. Rubbish notions.
I think most people will understand the case if they(public) were given the cause of taking the kids away. Atleast when the case has caused outrage, they should make the case public keeping the persons private . People use this confidentiality(the fact that barnevernet cant speak for itself to protect the persons involved) to their advantage for causing public outrage. Also true is bernervernet can use this confidentiality to abuse their power, take the children away without proper scrutiny, no system is perfect, everyone(general public, not involved in the case) should have the ability to see why they took away the kids, so they can better understand why bernevernat had to do it. Also i think bernervernet should help parents to raise the children in a proper way or the norweigian way(say slapping etc., to discipline). Counselling, pampletes at birth, explaining to adults when they want to work in the country(Norway) all would help. Bernevernet should not take the first opportunity to seperate the children. Losing custody should be the last option, can be for physical abuse that would be threat to life and sexual abuse. Bernervernet should make all possible efforts(helping the parents to raise kids in a similar way to paying for foster homes) to keep the child with parents(counselling parents on how to raise their kids and what can cause to lose custody). If the kids were to be taken away, the custody should go to their extended family like grandfather brother or brother-in-law's family. Thats more reassuring to parents and kids. Kids raised with their own biological parents are better physically and mentally in my opinion. Also taking away kids and putting in random govt apporved homes and setting up for adoption looks to me like a left over from slavery.
If the norwegian authorities could pay for foster homes for kids, they should pay to related mental health institutions that would make the mother fit to raise "her own" child.
@@Macho98 the problem here in Norway is that the people in Barnevernet are low educated (3 years) and have way, way too much power to take children away from their parents. Allot of them are not parents themselves and have only read books and therefore think they know what’s the best way to raise kids. When you have your own children some of the first things you learn is that nothing is the way you thought it was. Let me explain it like this, it’s like saying to a blind person that you know how it feels because you have tried to walk with closed eyes… and then you actually go blind, then you know how it is.
COLD EMOTIONLESS to support taking infants away from their mothers just bcz the infant looks at visitors and not the mother therefore assuming the infnat must be abused lol
Does barnevernet has to prove that it is a better replacement for biological parents? I mean… is the kids psychological welfare guaranteed to be better under them ? Any accountability?
I think the abuse she's talking about is the trauma and heartache that they're coursing to those poor little kids, it's a horror that they have to face everyday 💔 😢 and she's laughing seem like a joke to her 😈
They do take them away for sure, dont know a case close to me in Norway but it just happened to a very close friend of mine in London. She is a PhD student 35 years old happily married and they are going through a nightmare.
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You can't protect your behaviour in name of child welfare 😂
You not try to fix it but dividing breast feeding mother from child.
Is it not stupidity?
Which country law did this?
Can you give us count of cases against child welfare in UN and EU ?
Actually Norway don't believe in family and in family those things happen everywhere.
So Norway government stole children 😮 trafficking 🤬
Why immigrant children % that much?
We are doctors and have decided not to move to Norway after all, after watching Mrs Chatterjee vs Norway!
Yeah, there are lot of better countries if you want to move.
Lol. Do you believe that movie is accurate?
@SpeedrunsAndMemes I belive it is true and saw sagarika interviews also and there are many cases like this , norway is barbaric inhumane country
I was also thinking about moving to Norway in the future but after I watched the film and did a bit of research. Their are actually a lot of family's that get their child taken away for very minor things, and the parents are in distress. I get their doing their job, but if it has a lot of cases filed against them, then what the hell are they doing. Anyway's safe to say I won't be moving their any time soon
Good choice
Taking away breastfeeding babies from their mothers is inhuman. Mothers who are experiencing post-partum depression and have their babies taken away is inhuman, it shows lack of empathy and compassion. Evil people can make malicious reports of their neighbors they are jealous about. There has to be a documentation of who made tehereport in order to have accountability..
*Norway. No Way*
Absolutely absurd child protection laws, separating children from their parents is unimaginable & unbearable Pain is like to separate the souls of their parents.
I feed my children with my hands, they don't sleep in separate rooms...they like to sleep close to me, often like hugs & kisses, I correct mistakes, scold and so on. We are very protective of our children... Everyone has their own way of raising children.
The love of Indian, Asian or (other not mentioned here) parents bond between their children is very strong.
All the tears of parents fighting for their children fall as a curse to this country.
*I call it the Inhumane Act*
Never visit Norway, especially those who have children...Scary.
The solution is very simple. Stay in the country and culture you belong to.
She is an ex child welfare employee and I believe everything she is saying is purely out of textbooks of how they describe themselves! It would’ve felt more real if she could gave some examples of cases without disclosing names/personal information! She is being careful abt what should or shouldn’t come out of her mouth!
Just listening this lady I can hear the coldness of the system.
Thank you for your understanding. Norway is place to live and enjoy. There are social care systems for children in other countries an example in the UK why aren't people complaining about it? Because the government understand immigrants cultures and backgrounds. Yes their is a need for barnevernet I Norway as it is in all other western countries but not to a level where you are forcing foreign background Norwegian families to leave a place where they have grown up and spent most of their lives in. Not to a level where families are divided on small matters such as why are you not eating fish or cheese or why can't you speak Norwegian. It takes time to learn Norwegian and barnevernet has to understand that parent are also promoting their own language and culture to their children which they have fully right to. We Norwegians are saying that we are multi cultural society but do we understand other people societies and cultures in first place? Sadly I have to say that we don't have a clue about other cultures and approaches
they are animals
Totally agree
@@ahmadziasaqib8 Thank you for expressing your opinion. It's informative to hear the opinion of a Norwegian citizen on this who is actually objective about it...
@@ahmadziasaqib8 people complain everywhere the system Is becane a way to male money. Expert make Money, they work with the system and increade their contracts.
First I do not have a case against Barnevernet from now on Child Protection Services and am an ethnic Norwegian. But have bin with people that have had cases with them and here is my experience.
What is very frightening is that the Norwegian Child Protection Agency is not an institution for the child's best interests, but an institution that gets paid for how many cases they open and how long they last, in addition they get paid even better if they get to take over care.
- The child welfare agency's interpretations have greater value than the police, and hospital or other professional personnel's assessments.
- No documentation from other agencies, either public or private, will be attached to the case file if this does not speak in favor of the child protection agency.
- They manipulate the "victim" into believing that they need a psychological assessment in the hope of finding something they can use against the "victim", even if this is taken out of context, just to create a negative image of the "victim".
I have seen several cases where there have been demonstrably incorrect interpretations from the child protection system which are not emphasized because the child protection system has a different opinion. This is therefore not documented in the case file.
This is horribly reminiscent of the tater persecution in Norway up until the 80s and 90s.
The same type of "helpers" only now a different type of "victim".
This is an agency that works on the basis that opinions, gossip and rumor-mongering are more important than hard facts from doctors, psychologists, police or other professionals.
This has ended up in an extreme witch-hunt due to the fact that the child protection agency MUST prepare cases for and receive sufficient payment from the state.
My experience from several cases where I have been involved as a support person for the "victim" has not changed, even though I thought it would be possible to see some sunny stories the times I have been involved.
What I see are "interrogation methods" and manipulation that would have been punishable if the police had done this.
These are methods and reporting systematisation that are reminiscent of regimes where it applies and indicate neighbours, pupils, colleagues and other people in the immediate environment in search of a new "victim" and questioning which Norway so nicely says we do not support.
So why is this then legal in child protection??
I use the description "victim" provenly since that is what this poor person is, who has become entangled in the poisonous cobweb of child protection.
We have to stop and call this child protection, because they don't protect children, they protect their jobs and their income, unfortunately.
And that's the truth, This is an agency with to little education to have that kind of power....
What a shame..this is a crime...
Only in Norway 🇳🇴
How can these Norwegians live with themselves??? Doing this to other people??!!
@@Mantus77 I live here and I still don’t know how it’s possible. The excuse is that they are doing it “since it’s the best for the kids” believe it or not.
They really don’t understand that the kids are getting psychological problems because of the “help” they are giving. And allot of reporting is saying that a high percentage are turning into criminals.
So hurray for the good work.
Please do me a favor everyone that’s reading this, and talk about it with other people and maybe just maybe some with some kind of power will ask our politicians why they are doing this.
Norway is a democracy, right? So if this is a known problem, can people not pressure for change through your elected representatives? Or filing lawsuits, assuming civil litigation is possible in Norway? I don't understand how this benefits the government of Norway overall. As an Indian-American, I firmly believe no agency of the State should have unchecked power.
Until and unless there is abuse, no one has the authority to take the child away from parents! Neglect definition varies.
Basically, this department is making money by showing what they are needed. Creating a need is their survival tactic.
These things are not rumor. They took away kids' bases: "child eating with hand or leaving the food because the child did not want to eat."
Just because she didn’t act with Norwegian standards and was hand feeding her kids, she was judged to be mentally unfit to raise kids 😮 taking kids at this early age from their comfort zone and their parents is just unsafe and insane and would definitely affect the one’s self security.
This child welfare should be banned
Who would have thought that such a barbarian act is still happening in 2023😮
I had to turn this off. As an American who lives in Norway and has been through experiences with barnevernet i can say it was the most cultural diminishing and stressful experiences I've ever had in my life.
I live in Oslo, id be very happy to talk about my experience versus your Norwegian work colleague whos defending this institution.
Oh the child isn't laying, they're just making things up. Perfectly explains how this woman is defending this outrageous institution.
Oh god, it means, happening for everyone. Thx for speak out, hopefully you will get the way out
Interesting. I thought the German occupation of Norway ended in 1945. I guess some Nazis decided to stick around.
@Vikram Gupta read about it .. There where actual Nazis in Norway and Sweden but unlike German Nazis how had to face defeat, humiliation and criminal trials ...these guys went unnoticed and untouched and shaped the society and thinking..
Hope you guys have watched Mrs Chatterjee vs Norway
@@jacksonfernandez Yes, I have, thats what brought me to watch this video.
This is the scariest thing I heard in years, what is left for parents if their children are separated from them on frivolous grounds, hell seems better than Norway.
Growing up in a home where the child is exposed to violence is hell for the child. If you are unable to raise children without using violence, do not come to Norway. We don't need people who can't handle children without becoming violent.
It is up to a parents how to raise their kids. Govt. has no business in it. I dropped my plans to move to Nordic countries after hearing so many horrible stories from parents about how their kids were taken away by the govt .
It is horrible organization, they stole children from eastern european families and their only option to see their kids again was to kidnap them back. There was one family from Poland who told her daughter that her grandmother died and Barnevernet came and said that it is child abuse to tell to you kids that someone died and took her away
It’s like this in Germany too. Very sad 😞
good for you! Never come here, it's not worth the loss of parental rights.
@@Hilariusgamer This is jus BS lies. This never happened.
@@Hilariusgamer are you serious ??
'Stories like 'my parents hit me' by itself should not be a problem.'
The case of Russian-American Natalya and her children who were taken into care should be an indication that this isn't true. Because the eldest said her parents hit her, and her and her siblings were kidnapped in the middle of the night and are still in care, even though she said she'd made it up because she was angry with her mum.
I think there's more to that story than what you know, as she mentioned in the video - a accusation/allegation itself of that should not be a problem.
All the cases with barnevernet, their main focus is the safety and wellbeing of the child, and they would potentially have found other reasons for the parents to not be suitable or able provide the care to the child.
@@BlameItOnTheADD That is why you loose every case in the European Court of Human Rights ECHR.
@@BlameItOnTheADD There's no more into the story. I read about hundreds of cases. Whistleblowers from inside the agency talking about how they are pressured to close cases quickly, and children stay with foster parents until 18. It's inhumane. Norway is a ridiculous country. In one case of Indian parents, they claim a three months baby was staring at the social worker when she entered the room, that means she bonded with her, and the mother will lose her child. It's documented. Shame on you.
in that case you give your child to them. all they need is on prank call
@@BlameItOnTheADD regner med du er norsk(I believe you are Norwegian) if you are then you can’t have had anything to do with the Barnevern, I have never personally had any issues with them, but been a support person for people who have, and my god what an eye opener that was. They are not filling anything that’s positive about the parent that’s accused no matter how much they are proving Barnevernet wrong, if they are having the idea that the parent is not a good parent, well then it’s not a thing what you as a parent can prove to be true, but what they are saying you are. There are doctors who say to accused parents “I’m not sure if it’s a good idea to have me in to represent you, because they are not going to listen to me. And are turning my words so it sounds negative against you”. You are acting like a common naive Norwegian that doesn’t understand that there are happening human rights violations in our country right in front of your nose. I have heard phone calls that children have recorded and put out on the internet, where Barnevern agents are trying to manipulate the child to think in that case the mother are not normal, the conversation even goes to a point where the child is starting to cry and the Barnevern agent just keeps going…
There are even statistics that say that a high percentage of the children are ending up as criminals because of the stay in Barnevernet’s care.
Yeah I am Norwegian and have seen how they work…
I feel this video is an attempt to make it look better but ended up like a child busted stealing candy..
For context, I am from New Zealand originally, have a 4 year old daughter. We moved to Poland several years ago and in general we were very happy there. I got a job in Finland recently, we moved there and were quite unhappy with their culture, especially the way they treat children. Children are unhappy, stern, severe, etc, they also do not socialise, coming from Poland it was such a shock. I was really considering Norway as somewhere we might move, but the notoriety of this agency really put me on edge. I have issues with their over-reaching powers, I would never move to a country where my own child could be taken away for something as minor as suspicions, my overall impression is that they do not engage in discussions in good faith to determine the truth, or what is the most beneficial outcome for the child and their family. In New Zealand we have an agency called CYF that more or less has the same goal, but they would only take away a child if it was truly detrimental to their welfare, cases such as physical or sexual abuse, serious domestic violence - basically the threshold for intervention seems to be much higher, and even if an intervention took place, I would have faith that if there was a misunderstanding, with the help of lawyers and/or the Police, you could get your children back. I do not see that as the situation in Noway, it's almost as if the only situation I would consider to live there would be if I had a yacht on which I could escape from their clutches should they suspect my family of neglecting my child for, I don't know, not brushing their hair or something incredibly stupid.
Did you even watch the interview? Errors can happen in any system, including in New Zealand.
They have over 400 offices. In a country with a population of 5 million. That alone should tell what’s going on.
😢 this is terrible I saw many cases on TH-cam
Really??? They should be called Gestapo!
Norway is an elongated country with great distances. There are many small, isolated communities with a few thousand inhabitants. If you are to be able to help the children, you must necessarily be close to them.
I think in norway, government always assume that parents are always the abuser while when other real predator prey on kids, they let these predator get away from it.
and they also often work for the barnevernte too
Quite a point quite a point…. Fully agree to this . Thanks 🙏🏻
this woman makes me cringe. She uses the typical Scandinavian tactic of playing innocent, caring and reassuring. "These are only rumors you have nothing to fear." The truth is that this government organization has lost several cases at the human rights court in Strassbourg. Still Norwegian politicians keep pouring in money to Barnevernet as if it was the only institution that can do anything for Norwegian kids.
True I too Puked
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She made no secret of the fact that Norway has lost some cases in Strasbourg, but she also said that the Norwegian child protection agency learns from those cases, to prevent it from happen again. I have worked as a teacher all my working life, and have been in contact with many children. I have never experienced that children have been taken out of the family, but I have many times experienced that the child protection service has been of help to families who are struggling.
@@ahkkariq7406 my experience is that neither the Norwegian government or media cares, Rather then investigating what has happened barnevernet receives more funding. Looking into what has happened takes the courage to question the State makes no mistakes philosophy that we have here.
I read about hundreds of cases. Whistleblowers from inside the agency talking about how they are pressured to close cases quickly, and children stay with foster parents until 18. It's inhumane. Norway is a ridiculous country. In one case of Indian parents, they claim a three months baby was staring at the social worker when she entered the room, that means she bonded with her, and the mother will lose her child. It's documented. Shame on you.
I've heard a lot about this dystopian organisation , but the case you've described (taken away for looking at social worker) is just insane. Could you provide a source for it?
@@ashvinveeraraghavan8450 There was somewhere list of reasons on internet - one of the "problems" was - they eat with their hands
@@happyfelix1440 That was one of the self proclaimed reasons given by the parents.
You never hear the other side of the story.
This could be why Norway is often called a cold country; you do not always see parents hug their children. I live in Norway, and what I find weird is that they leave their children outside in prams in all weather whilst the parents are in the cafe. However, I have seen less of it in recent years.
Also, it does not matter what the culture is; not everyone raises children the same way. I agree that smacking is not the way foreward; however, I know of a colleague whose child said something to her teacher, and the teacher misinterpreted the child. So she called the child-welfare, and then there was a huge investigation. My colleague was Norwegian. So it does not just happen to foreigners in Norway.
The fact that you do not understand why Norwegians let children sleep outside in the cold does not mean that it is wrong. As far as I know, it has not happened that children sleeping in prams outside cafes in Norway have disappeared, so it is safe to let children sleep in prams. It says something about the security in Norwegian society, and should be something you value. It is also common to have a small electronic baby monitor in the pram, so you can keep an eye on the child at all times, even if you are indoors yourself.
I myself have had children sleeping outside in many degrees of cold, but they have always been warm. When you dress the child in several layers of wool and put him in a sleeping bag that is well insulated, the child does not suffer any distress.
Children who sleep outside in the cold develop a stronger immune system, which is necessary when living in a cold country like Norway. They usually sleep very well in the fresh air, often for several hours at a stretch. The parents will check if the child is well by sticking their fingers under the clothes at the child's neck. As long as the child's neck is warm, there is no danger.
Norwegian parents have experienced from childhood how important several layers of wool is as an insulation material. I have worked as a teacher all my working life, and have unfortunately seen far too many immigrant children who come to school in the winter cold, dressed in nylon and cotton. Many have bad shoes and the girls in particular wear decorative coats and indoor dresses when what they really need are waterproof and comfortable outer garments that release the snow and prevent it from getting in at the ankles, waist, wrists and neck, and warm woolen inner clothes.
Norwegian parents love their children so much that they prepare them for a life in one of the world's coldest and darkest countries.
Just because you haven't seen people handing out hugs in public doesn't mean they don't get hugs and love when you don't see it. I am a former teacher, and have seen thousands of parents who hug their children when they pick them up from kindergarten and school.
Immigrants are free to leave if they don't like it here, and to be honest, better not come if you think you know better how to handle the life in the land of our ancestors. There is no compulsion to live here, but I understand that free money is tempting for many.
Where has she seen this type of protocols in practice? They almost never talk to parents. Already the school is part of the system, and they will often speak and twist kids words or attitudes by thinking that something is wrong at home. Parents won't know nothing until kids are taken away, which happens often when kids are at school. This is where they will tell you how and why the kids were taken. From that moment, kids are in danger for they future, going from foster houses, or kids institutions. Siblings are separated, because fosters home might not be able to take them all. When it comes to immigrants, it's a cultural problem that the country it's pretty much ethnocentric about it, and disregard the fact that immigrants parents face the cultural shock in how to raise and educate their kids to be good citizens. Her speech it's pathetic because she describes something that its further from the reality. Then no one speak about how much money foster homes receive per child per month 🤔. They should use it to help parents and strenghten families instead.
In short don't go Norway if you love your children. How government have any business in between parents and child.
on the basis of culture differences they take away ur child. We know Mrs chatterjee's case very well. These Norwegians are currently living in a great place but they will burn in hell bcz they take away the most sweet child from them.
Norwegian Child Service doesn't care about The Child wellness.
Its about controlling their citizens.
I guess some of them has the knowlege, reality sense and empathy.
But The system works as stalkers when a family is vulnerable, spesially financially.
Is a huge loyality in health-care, kinder-garden, school, mental health system, media and legal system.
It's totally disfuntional for a family even if the have etnisk background.
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thats not true
@@Hurri1Kane everything is about money!
@@Hurri1Kane it is more that true! Poor kids they need they parents not the gov to raise them.
For those thinking about moving to Norway because it seems like an idyllic country to live and raise a family, please heed the old saying: “The grass is not always greener on the other side”. Because I’m here to tell you-it ain’t!
Sure, Norway has some pluses, but there are also a lot of negatives. Still, if you insist that you still want to give it a go, I strongly recommend that you be completely ready to give up your norms, background (this includes your higher education & work experience), culture, and identity, and fully immerse yourself in a highly homogeneous, nationalistic society that believe themselves to be far superior to any other countries, especially the other Scandinavian countries-and more specifically Sweden. If you can not do that, then you might want to rethink Norway.
I’m an American married to a Norwegian. We have been married for 23 years (together for 27 years). After we married, my husband and I decided that we would live in the US, and at some point we would spend some time living in Norway, too.
We would alternate with his family-one year we would go to Norway on vacation, the following year his family would vacation in the US. This went on for many years, and it worked, but always his parents wanted us to move to Norway, especially after our son was born in 2003, but life just kept getting in the way. My husband and I both had great jobs in the US, we had a strong community that we belonged to, we were happy, our son was happy & thriving… we were living the American dream, so there never seemed to be a good time or reason to move to Norway.
Then two things happened that made us think it was now or never: Trump happened, and our son was entering his high school years.
We packed up and moved to Norway in 2018. After years of vacationing in Norway to spend time with husband’s family, NOTHING could have prepared me for how overall disappointing the whole experience was for me & my husband (who says that it’s not the same Norway he grew up in); and how difficult it was for our son who was really homesick for his life & for his friends in the US; and struggling academically in school-which in turn affected his self-confidence and self-esteem. He did make a few school friends in Norway, but he was so unhappy living there. He hated that he wasn’t doing well in school because his Norwegian was rudimentary at best, and *the school taught in Norwegian. My husband and I were growing increasingly concerned because our son started showing all the signs of being depressed (not eating well, sleeping a lot, dark circles under eyes, tuning out). It was so frustrating for me that my in-laws answer was to just speak Norwegian when we were around them. The feelings of isolation was overwhelming and intense.
Around this time, I stumbled across a barnevernet story that-I kid you not-made my hair stand on end! I discussed this story with my husband, and asked if we needed to be worried about barnevernet showing up on our doorstep one day. He assured me that wouldn’t happen. I can honestly say that I didn’t believe my husband. Not because I thought he was lying, but because he assumed that Norway was incapable of violating human rights. My thoughts were: If Norway can remove children from families through state-sponsored, forced adoptions over something so ridiculous as eye-contact, hand-feeding, co-sleeping… basically, anything that Norway finds culturally unacceptable… in my mind, it wasn’t a far stretch for me to think that it could happen to my family.
In January 2020, my son and I moved back to the US (husband followed later-he had to await a new work visa, and of course the whole pandemic). My son graduated with honors from high school in 2022, and got into his first-choice, too-rated university where he has maintained a 3.60 GPA and has made the Dean’s List. More importantly: he. is. thriving.
As a parent, you never want your child to suffer. You move mountains to give your child a strong foundation to help navigate life. And it absolutely blows my mind that Norway allows the barnavernet organization to act with impunity towards Norwegian society, seemingly without oversight or repercussions. What they should be doing is pouring resources into doing what ever they can to keep families together, and the children safe, by teaching these struggling families parenting skills/life skills instead ripping families apart. Temporarily, or permanently, removing children should be the last resort.
Now, just imagine what a shit-hole of an organization like barnevernet would have done to me and my family had they been alerted about our son’s depression. I have no doubt they would have labeled us as bad parents.
*I never took the time to actively learn Norwegian in all the years we’ve been together; and my husband didn’t actively teach our son to speak Norwegian. So our son only knew a few basic words here and there.
Very interesting story. My only experience with Norway was visiting "Norway" in WDW/Epcot (restaurant etc.) My impression of Norway was always positive until I saw the new Indian movie a few nights ago. Shocking and disturbing. This is not a criticism, but there is some irony in you leaving the US because of Trump to go to a country that apparently has no system of checks and balances. You did confirm what I was piecing together, Norway is so intent on preserving their culture, they are willing to accept loss of certain freedoms to attain it.
They would have given you assistance. Are you unfamiliar with Norwegian law?
Childcare assistance is literally the majority of what Barnevernet does.
Trump happend was everything I needed to know from your comment. You moved from US because of Trump? That's the most telling from your kilometer long essay. Yoh wanted liberal leftist society there you and it on a silver platter in form of gestapo Norwegian CPS.
The stories you hear about child protection will always be one-sided. The parents will often come out with their stories, but the child protection service is prevented from saying anything about the real reason why they acted as they did. I'm not saying that mistakes haven't been made, because mistakes will always happen when people are involved. After all, you yourself made a mistake when you moved to Norway, and luckily corrected the mistake by moving back.
I have worked as a teacher in Norway all my working life, and what you say about your son is completely normal when you uproot a young person from their familiar environment and move them to a country with a different language and a different culture.
In all my years in the Norwegian school system, I have never experienced that child welfare services have taken children out of the family. In contrast, I have seen many times that they have come in with help and support for struggling families. However, I have seen children who have been placed in foster homes, and who were therefore pupils at my school. These were abused children who had been destroyed by their parents. Violence is inherited, unfortunately. Therefore, the pattern must be broken, and if the parents are unable to do so, it is society's duty to ensure that this happens.
Otherwise, I understand that it can be a shock for Americans to move to Norway. Norway is not America. We are a small, homogenous country that has been under the control of other countries for centuries, and we are not ashamed of our country. Our relationship with the Swedes is like a sibling relationship. The Swedes think we are envious of them, and look up to them like a big brother. It's just bullshit, so we kick them in the shin when we can. We argue, but it is a friendly argument based on love and respect.
I otherwise follow American politics and welfare, and am more concerned about children who grow up in poverty and with violence in American cities than about children who grow up in Norway. Unheard of that the terrible Trump will do something for these children. Horrible.
this looks very rosy, but when i see all the human right interviews with professionals of lawyers ex judges ex foster family and physiologists they say totally different things on many documented cases. What they say that is due to on minor minor reasons one would lose their kids for life. Not only that but kids face trauma, serious abuse, and psychological issues and extreme higher suicidal rate in what is should be their safe guard from their biological parents. Listening to those stories are real heart breaking
believe the lawyers and human right interviews not barnevern propaganda
@@kakefyll read about the the 14 verdicts of ECHR against barnervarnet … soon it will be total of 40 verdicts.. no other country in Europe is even close
@@nwaleed01 That's what I'm saying, don't believe this propaganda video from this employe that's full of lies
@@kakefyll sorry i read first reply quickly .. yes i agree with you
Lots of real horror stories from Child Services in Norway, it seems to me it became a Mafia, tons of money involved.
You only here one side of the story
@@LasVegar whatever story it might be. you cannot separate the kids from their parents period. if required teach the parents, monitor them and keep doing it until they learn or threaten them with jail but nobody should ever take kids away. that is just child trafficking in a sheep's clothing. shame on you norway
@@birdieblue19 yes bro
💯 Agree 👍
LMAO that's the most out there conspiracy, please please please indulge me!
@@birdieblue19 you can't monitor a family all the time, and in the beginning usually with investigating/home checks and meetings they go through the ways to make sure everything is fine in the home and work together to make it the best for the child. Kids are only removed from the home of found to be in an unsafe environment.
I've lived in Norway for 16 years, and after my experience there's the official guidelines how barnevernet should act, and then there's what they actually do. And these sides have nothing to do with each other. In fact they shit on all laws, knowing that their colleagues from the fylkesnemnda always stand on their side.
The first "court" parents have to deal with, the fylkesnemnda, belongs to the same department as barnevernet itself. Wich means: they are all working companions together. Which again means: the nemndsleder (could be described as a judge) is biased to the bone. There's no chance in hell to win there.
And before you get a real chance in a real court, at least a year has passed and all good structures in the family are destroyed, which is barnevernet's intention from the beginning. They don't help families at all, that's a pure lie.
Same in Italy. When social system take your child...It take not less than 2years to have him/her back! And you Need a very strong and specialized lawer!
Honestly , the most controversial child care system is in Europe . And Europe need to change their mindset on what they do is always right. Sagarika was lucky enough as she got her child back all thanks to Indian diplomatic pressure however not everyone is lucky and now shagarika has raised children pretty well . Where is the incapacity or incapablity . Stop this shabby system under which you provide employment. Most disgusting system ever
I think the solution to this issue is to have a certain amount of integration of people in the child welfare services who are not Norwegian , that way I feel the opinion regarding how children should be treated will get diversified in a sense that with a proportionate diversity in the child welfare services itself as that of the demographics the a varied view of how to raise a child can be entertained.
I suppose that in Norway the problem is far more serious. I would not be surprised if a paedophile racket has infiltrated this govt dept. It's ridiculous how anyone in Norway can report a child issue. That process is open to misuse. Norwegian culture has little respect for family and private life and is probably quite narcissistic. Indian culture is vastly superior
Very good
Norwegians children are being abducted too. Its not just racism, its total disregard for the biological family unit and corruption. These people are evil, not lacking ideas or input.
I think the job of Barnevernet is to be a watch dog but it is being a bloodhound. That too especially in case of immigrants. All because they want to run their child welfare Industry or to provide job to their unemployed people.
A topic which is of great importance to every one who moves to Norway with kids or is planning to have kids here. Wonderful. Thanks a lot.
Glad it was helpful!
Just don't move here if you have children, cps tends to target immigrants
Not only immigrants.
Any normal family.Norwegians are robbed equally of their family.Have seen horror scenes years back .One would think it's about insane horror movies .
But it's pure ,ugly reality.
@@dianet2702 it’s still the truth…
We who are trying to make a difference need help from other countries since common Norwegians who have not been exposed to Barnevernet are not realizing how bad it is and are saying like a comment earlier here that “it can’t be true, there must be something else”
No there isn’t…
I can if I’m a “dick” call Barnevern about someone I don’t like, and say “I think they are using drugs in front of the kids” and hell is loose for them..
that’s what’s happening in some cases…
It is abysmal and pathetic to see a fellow Indian trying to paint a rosy and goody two shoes picture of the Bnet monster. India has its share of Ambhi, Jaichand and Mir Jafar through the ages. You are striving hard to get into that list. Having researched and seen the agony of so many families even Norwegian ones this should be dismantled immediately. Maybe we should report this video for trying to whitewash when Bnet has the trauma and blood of so many distraught families on their hands. Please stop this nonsense.
Not correct questions. How many Kids are taken from family in a year and last decade? How many cases did you return the kid to family? İs there ant case that you took kid just because parent shout the kid for any reason? No istatistics
Interviewer is also very afraid of her.
Not everything that shines is gold👎
This women is so very ungenuine...... it's totally obvious.... Unless a child is experiencing abuse then they should be with their parent. Cultural difference and poverty is not reason to take a, child away. I would not live in Norway..... The government has far too much power in Norway
My question to all Norwegians: Are you okay being seen as a child kidnapper country worldwide. This seems a very shameful tag for any wonderful country.
Norway is a progressive country but after watching the movies of chatterji vs norway there is no human behavior in this country
The fact that it's a 'low threshold service' is probably the most dangerous thing about it.
The fact that they take kids and put them in foster care because the parents aren't perfect shows how skewed their thinking is and how little they actually know about child welfare. Foster care is generally NOT better for children than keeping them with their family. Far from it - it damages them for life.
Well done Norway, for abusing children.
After watching this movie, I decided NEVER to consider Norway as an immigration option. I have no children but a Norwegian lady friend who lives in the USA. However, I won’t ever accept any hints from her to move to her country. Namaste and support to our Indian friends, from Mexico. There are better countries to consider if an immigration decision is to be taken, like New Zealand or Finland in that region.
Forget migrating, I wouldn't even go there as a tourist ! Its unbelievable level of interference
who all came here after Mrs Chatterjee vs Norway
Yes they do take away kids from their parents with no good reasons , it’s a nightmare for kids and parents.
barnevernet- a sophisticated crime.
She knows she’s defending a heartless government service, can’t blame her…
Barnevernt is stealing kids from parents and stop sugar coating it peopel have internet now
Dale poder y legitimidad al Estado y verás lo que tarda en aplastar tus libertades y derechos
I almost tuned out when he introduced his guest as someone who will explain how to raise kids in Norway. And he repeated that as if its a legitimate question. Its not up to a government or a third person to dictate to you how to raise your children. There were several subtle creepy undertones to this video. What an insidious society where you have to live in fear of being "reported". Sounds like "1984".
Most people do not live in fear of child protection in Norway. Treat your child with love and respect and you have nothing to fear. Also, don't forget that you always only hear one side of the story. I have worked as a teacher in Norway throughout my working life. I have seen many children who have needed help, but I have never experienced children being taken out of their families. On the other hand, I have seen many children and families who have received help and support from child protection.
Otherwise, did you notice that she didn't want to tell people how to raise their children? People living in Norway have great freedom in how they raise their children as long as they are not neglected or abused. They are even allowed to let little girls walk around in head coverings because their parents consider them sexual objects, which is unheard of for Norwegians. Children are children, and should be allowed to be children.
Otherwise, Norwegian children have rights as independent individuals, not as their parents' "property", with which they can do as they please.
It seems like the child welfare system is opaque. Nobody knows the exact regulations.
Like any totalitarian system.
They even. Got a SNITCHING system.
"a friend is worried about your child and snitches on you"
They do know the rules but don't tell the parents. They give the parents invented rules depending on how the caseworker feels, the parents have to follow these made up rules, if they don't comply they have an excuse to take the child away. The barnevernet then have an excuse to take the child away. Every time the child moves to a new foster homes a lot of people make money. Recently it was exposed that the private foster institutions and homes where run by the barnevernet workers friends and family and money exchanged hands.
@@helmandblue8720 this seems to be a government sponsored corruption and terrorism
I am happy that people in the comments r honest. Germany was one of the countries trying to implement child protection services like in Norway especially in the years 2010-2020.A nightmare.A nightmare for everyone.I think this people deep down in their hard know its not right,but they r afraid to take the consequences of their actions.
The trauma u cause to a child by removing him of his parents is so unbelievable. It shakes the roots of his world fir the sake of people with nice smile and wrong beliefs. The people that you r naturally trusting and bonding are being removed from you ba some superficial power of the state.I mean yes, that definitely rases obedient citizens but at what terrible, inhumane price. Have the grace to stand straight fot your actions, Norway!
...ah bit scary :D, this people need to be jailed! OMG
But the child should not be taken away from the parents especially from immigrant parents as their culture is different.they should help the parents and the children while they are in their own house.The child welfare services should not give the children or the child to another parent or to another family of a different cultural background.lastly I would say children brought up in India and some other Asian countries are well mannered, well behaved,courteous then children from western and European countries. It is the up bringing of the parents of indian and Asian countries.
She forgets to mention that the support/assistance is filled with arrogant demeaning and not evidence based advice that you have to follow.
It's a lot about the subjective opinion of the workers. There is no respect for the fact that there is differences in parenting. Schools and daycares do much of the same and send messages of concern over the silliest things, which leads to investigation from barnevern then lots of mandatory meetings and waste of time. they like to twist everything and exaggerate. For instance, your child didn't do homework one time they will write "parents struggle with supporting the child doing homework". if they had dirty clothes one time it's a hygiene problem etc. They are especially nasty towards foreigners and describe common parenting practices in other countries as aggressive (and no I'm not talking about beating your child but other things). The statistics clearly show there are a lot more messages of concern regarding parents of foreign background. Which is quite xenophobic of the supposed open and tolerant Norwegian society
And its a downright lie that the concern had to be about something serious. The threshold for what cps considers a problem is very low, not high!For instance they will say someone is being aggressive if they are talking loudly! They will say it's scary for the child
This is BS. If your kids do not do their homework or show up dirt once, nothing is going to happen. NOTHING.
Yes, being in the sights of BV can be intimidating, but you do not end up there for no reason at all.
@@KjetilBalstad It's not BS though, they get involved for the most nebulous and ridiculous reasons
@@kakefyll When BV is involved it's usually a result of a message og concern, and ppl, the schools or anyone else don't make those just for fun.
No, the schools don't make them because your children misses out on the homework once. Or if the kids shows up dirty once. The part is BS. Every time you kid misses his or her homework it is registered, on our school the parents also automaticly gets a notification if this happens, so the parents are informed.
If this continues, or if the kids cloths are dirty, worn, to small, not suitable for the season or weather over a period of time, then such a message might be sent.
And, BV is required to investigate such concerns. If there are real concerns of physical or secual abuse then imidiate ection might be taken, pending investigation. Else BV will seak to open dialoige with the parents. Sure, this might be somewhat traumatic for the parents, but if they have not done anything wrong, there is no problem. BV is not there to care for the parents welfare, but the children's. It's better to just realize that is why they are there, and meet them at that, openly. Show you have nothing to hide. BV can also assist parents if they struggle with something.
I know how this works, being a foster parent myself as well as having close relatives involved with BV on the receiving end as well.
In their case they did have some problems becoming parents when they were young, having problems fully providing for the child as well as having both personal problems and a turbulent relationship. Did not loos the kids, but had to undergo some scrutiny. Then, when they broke up the ex started reporting my relative to BV for all kinda shit, not true, but they had to follow up on those reports. And, him looking like a tough guy and being a little rough in the edges when communicating with them did not help. Nothing came of it though, and after a few reports like this the ex did loose standing with BV herself. I'm not saying BV was wrong to investigate, there were things to look at, even if they did nothing harmful to the child. And when you're in the loop, they will watch you.
But, point is, phe people with BV are people who need to follow up on such messages of concern. And, they might come of as arrogant, perhaps you don't feel them listening to you. This is because it's not their job to just take your side of it, but to see if there could be any harm to the child. And this is not an easy job.
They are here to protect those who cannot protect them selves against abuse and neglect by the adults that should be closest to them, in accordance to Norwegian law. . This is very challenging.
Try looking at this from their side as well. Sure, mistakes happen. But it is rare. And the claims on social media they BV is some form of evil entity they kidnap children to giv them to Norwegian parents is just BS.
@@KjetilBalstad It isn't rare that these so called mistakes happen though, I encourage you to read articles about Norway and lack of due process with barnevern)lawyers are concerned about this for a reason), schools sending messages of concern because parents complain (also lawyers sounding the alarm here), healthcare workers and schools sending them without good reason (research has been done on this). You absolutely do not have to be a "repeat offender" so to speak for barnevern to launch an investigation, that's a lie. they only need one message for that. And quite often they believe everything a school etc says. so all it takes is pissing off ONE wrong person. Just because it hasn't happened to you doesn't mean it doesn't happen you know. But you are just an example of why this country will never see any change of this. If we simply ignore the problem it doesn't exist. Norwegians are naive . If you can read all the articles I provide, and then also consider all the cases we have in the human rights courts, and still find there is no problem with Norwegian CPS I dont know what I can tell you. There is no convincing you if you won't look at whats right in front of your eyes.
Typical Norwegian gaslighting style "ItS jUsT a fEw bAd aPpLeS". Just as bad as Americans insisting most cops are good cops. the system is still rotten.
forskning.no/barn-og-ungdom-hogskolen-i-innlandet-juridiske-fag/mange-bekymringsmeldinger-til-barnevernet-skulle-ikke-vaert-sendt/1624709
idag.no/totalt-fravar-av-rettssikkerhet-i-barnevernet/19.28084
www.nrk.no/nordland/forsker-ved-universitetet-i-sor-ost-norge_-skoler-truer-ofte-med-barnevernet-nar-foreldre-klager-1.15221011
www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/sjokkdom-utloser-barnevernsbrak/75229027
www.bt.no/nyheter/lokalt/i/m5bg0/forsoekt-brukt-til-aa-fjerne-barn-fra-mor
Of course she lies!
She is part of that system.
So scary.. children are safest with their parents.. i love the asian culture of upbringing children… different countries have different culture and tradition.. everything has to be respected
YEAH!!!...
IT'S LIKE ASKING DEVIL, IF S/HE IS EVIL...
SHAME ON NORWAY FOR NOT RESPECTING OTHERS' CULTURE. SHAME
I find it disturbing that she is defending this institution that has committed these unforgiveable crimes
They must, or they will be fired
Shame on the entire Norway system to announce or have such pathetic rules to separate children from their mother in the name of "development". A mother have their own way to raise their child. Just for some money Norwegian child welfare is taking the lives of mothers. It's illegal and every country and every citizen should raise their voice against this practice so that they won't dare to steal children from their parents. Shame !!
Indian parent knows how to care their child.
1.4 billion people I don’t think so
living on freebies oil money en-un©h has opinion about raising kids
@@LasVegar Atleast Our Parents Don't get Divorced like You .They don't ask Us to move out after we are 18 . And Talking about 1.4 Billion people, That's our Strength We have Enough manpower To Invade Every Freaking Country in this World
None of your business..you mr. Vegar
@@LasVegar Norwegians are barbarians . or descendents of barbarians if i am not wrong.
As someone who was taken by norwegian child service, i vehemently hate them.
You know what? Sue them! Sue barnevernet. Sue the women who took you. Sue those who harmed you. Go vocal about what happened to you.Write to the governement to the united nations to any organization that might listen,. Write even anonymous. Dont stay silent. Evil prevails cause good people do nothing to stop it.
wow never knew about this issue it is now highlighted with the bollywood movie mrs chatterjee vs norway.... Came here after the trailer was just released and saw some reports. It is heartbreaking to see all that and parents must have been devastated.
If Norwegian government wants to help . Barnevernet please pick up all the millions of children from India who are facing poverty and bad living conditions and please move them to Norway for the incredible life they deserve.
Can't believe a nation that calls itself developed is corrupt at the cost of despair and pain of families and their children.
Best advice don't go to Norway.
Norway has a child protection service.
It's not a welfare offer.
It's to protect children.
The wrong things are that people overreact and report parents for many mistaken things.
Barnevernet " child protection services " also have many people work there. Many are not doing a good job, some do an ok job. And some do actually a good job.
Not many men work in the child protection services, so you get an angeling from a woman's point of view most times.
They idea about protecting children is good.
But the actions taken " how child protection services " in Norway do it, is often wrong, and based on 2 persons beliefs rather than facts ( based on skilled knowledge ).
Social workers often work in child protection services.
Instead of use more with a bachelor in psychology.
Also more men should work there, to get different views.
The try to do better, but it really come down to what person you meet there. Child protection services in Norway, actually has for years been extremely bad. And sadly people from other countries may also experience racism.
People should know : serious worries about children, that and ONLY serious worries should be reported in to child protection services.
Maybe , not sure, I dont like them and so on should NOT be reported in. And child protection services should screen better, before taking a case.
They do harass families !!
And they are far from good.
Also Norway has a total population of 5.4 million people.
No chance that so many not care enough for their children.
Child protection services, children schools, kindergartens and children health care centres, report in a lot of parents on grounds that don't have enough substance.
All reports on anyone's child as well as parents stay with the child.
So if you meet 1 that for some reason don't like you. Or made up their mind before meet you.
Than you get problems.
So it's dangerous as the worst result is that they take your child / children from you, and out them in foster homes.
It's gone too far, and Norway is not a good country to have children in.
Even birth rate in Norway go down = less children is born in Norway. The child protection service cases go up.
It do not make sense.
It's a lot of overreactions.
And that is NOT a good thing.
Norways child protection services do too many mistakes, interpret laws wrong and some even seem to have a personal agenda against parents.
With so few people in the country, but so many cases in the child protection services it show things are very wrong.
The best for the child = is not to have stressed out parents.
Every child have it best with its biological parents.
It's just gone too far, and it's very bad in Norway for children and parents.
And this is true about the child protection services.
Child protection services should help children and parents.
It's supposed to be good.
But too many do so bad job, its not good, its danger and stress for parents and children.
And that has never been the goal of politicians or law makers.
How do these people treat their own children and grand children at home after job ?
They come home stressed out, much negative and sad feedback.
How do they cope to be good parents after this job ?
And over time how do a stressed, over worked person do a good job ?
Ofcourse this affect their job, their judgement.
That is why it all work so wrong and so bad.
That's why it's a dangerous child protection services in Norway.
In 2014 it was born 60.025 children in Norway. That was yhe total in the year 2014.
In 2014 child protection services took 5 children from their parents every day.
5 x 365 days = 1825 children.
In that year 2014, was really 1825 parents that bad parents ?
I think its a lot of overreaction, misunderstanding about culture differences.
And many extremely bad workers in the child protection services.
In 2021 it was born 56.060 children in Norway.
Birthrate go down.
And about 3 children was taken from their parents every day.
3 x 365 = 1095.
56.060 born and 1095 children taken by child protection services.
The numbers are too high.
Most that gave birth in 2021 was people from other countries.
Eg mum Norwegian and dad from another country.
Or both parents from another country.
Very few Norway man and women got children.
So one have to ask if it is elements of racism ( not understanding ) different cultures in this too.
And again that is NOT GOOD !
Parents love their children. When child protection services take their kids, parents actually have committed suicide.
Other parents have fled to other countries with their children like Argentina, Thailand and more, to get away from a very bad and dangerous Norwegian child protection services.
The Norwegian child protection services ( Norway government ) lose cases in the EU Court as well.
Its well proven that the child protection services, schools, children health care centres, are very far from good.
Child psychologists that's brought in by the child protection services are often not good, they tend to read papers and make up their minds before meet children and families.
It's a nasty and sick culture and environment.
And most of the criticism they get is actually correct.
It's horrible
She had that criminal looks, well done Norway 😂😂
Hey, I think you mentioned in the video that there was an English language version of that site. The only link is In Norwegian. We’re early in the process of deciding where to immigrate to, currently looking hard at Norway, and while I’m learning the language, I don’t have enough to navigate the website yet. Is there an English language site? It seems like at a minimum, Barnavernet has a major communication issue, and I realize they can’t comment on specific cases, but if even the citizens of Norway don’t know what criteria they’re expected to keep to, someone in the communications part of that organization has failed at their job.
There’s a ton about Norway we want in our lives, but not having a clear answer to the question of “what standard will I be expected to maintain” when the consequences for failure to meet that unspoken or poorly communicated standard is up to and including loss of our child, is really giving us pause. The one thing that’s been clearly communicated is no corporal punishment, which great! That’s easy. Everything else it’s just vague references to “concern for the well-being of the child,” and maybe that’s something that people who grew up in that culture absorb by osmosis, though I’d question whether that’s the case when native Norwegians live with some amount of fear that they’ve run awry of this organization, but regardless, immigrants cannot be expected to have absorbed the knowledge one gets from growing up in a country. I recognize that it’s not possible to completely eliminate subjectivity from the equation, but the inscrutability of an organization that has enormous power to absolutely ruin the lives of anybody affected by its actions, especially the children it’s putting into foster care is a problem, especially when that organization has been found guilty of human rights abuses in international courts.
Everything I’ve seen about Norway tells me that, while the country doesn’t always get it right, it’s generally looking to be a positive force, and when it finds out it’s been majorly wrong to the tune of human rights abuses, it tends to step in and fix things, so hopefully those court cases lead to some change. An excellent step 1 to changing that would be to put out some sort of clear communication regarding what is and is not expected of parents, preferably in multiple languages, preferably somewhere easy to find.
Thank you so much for filming this, by the way. You’ve asked exactly the questions we’ve been asking around here, trying to puzzle out exactly what we’d be walking into. There’s a game show on Dropout (comedy streaming service) called Game Changer. Its premise is that the game changes every time, and the contestants don’t know the game up front and have to figure it out live from context clues. It’s a fun and hilarious show. What’s not fun or hilarious is an organization with a reputation for taking peoples’ children with a heavy emphasis on immigrants and people of color (which whether true or not is absolutely the organization’s reputation) being run like this game show. That’s just a recipe for traumatized children, traumatized parents, and distrust in government.
Thanks for sharing your perspective. You managed to communicate quite well what's problematic from an outside/immigration viewpoint. Thank you. This sort of input is way more valuable than emotionally dominated black/white comments.
You don't get it. It's not about care! It's about PROFIT!
Who the hell is this lady …. Why are they not acknowledging the horrible CPS…. to give a podium for a person like her to justify and praise this cruelty … I don’t get it…
Rather not move to this country which has false representation in the world as a free country and evryone is happy , it must be scary for immigrants to move to a country which has no tolerance for cultures from outside norway . Shameful .
Neighborhood and stranger don't see kids 24 hours their family always been there so if he is doing something bad he/she should be punished and it's the right of parents . There is a line between punishment and torturing which vary in different country
I only speak Ukrainian. I am using google translator. Therefore, please excuse me if the translation is bad! I am from Western Ukraine. I am a nurse and I save lives. I live now in Germany. I need a lawyer to file, with other disabled citizens of Ukraine, a lawsuit against Norway. My husband, a Ukrainian (oil worker, human rights activist) became disabled as a result of his defense of the rights of other people (Norwegian and Russian media for 9 years). My husband fought corruption in the Russian oil giant, which was headed by the founder of the 6th Directorate of the FSB and the ex-Chancellor of Germany. My husband defended the rights of disabled people and Ukrainians in Norway against Russian-speaking citizens of this NATO country. The Norwegians took my disabled husband to Moscow AFTER: anti-war pickets of my husband in the Russian Federation, his defense of the rights of Ukrainians in Norway, the issuance of documents to my husband by the Norwegian Red Cross for his close relatives (Polish servicemen repressed by the Russians), sentencing his defender to prison (in married to a citizen of Finland for 25 years) in Belarus, who reported the crime of the Norwegians against the Ukrainians and was recognized as a Political prisoner. My husband and his lawyer warned the Norwegians about the coming war, but they did not believe him. The husband was kidnapped and the war began. And after the war began, the Norwegians do NOT admit their mistakes! Unlike the Swedes, the Norwegians DO NOT LIKE to admit their mistakes even when the Chechen refugees deported by the Norwegians were killed in the Russian Federation (Norwegian media).m
No one got the right to steal a child from parents, its their kid & no parents would ever do bad to them
What rights does Barnvernet get to tell how to raise children when they are corrupted. How can Norway assure their welfare system is genuine. Why don’t emphasize on these?
Supported service you mean Taking away children?
What about the psychiatrist who was caught in pornography who was part of decision making committee.
Are you telling rest of the world doesn’t know how to raise kids?
The movie of Mrs bullshiter vs Norway is complete lies and Indian style exaggeration. The whole case was not accurate as presented in that Indian movie 😂
Never visiting Norway. Criminals act by organization.
This is how a devil looks like …. Never forget to wish HAPPY MOTHERS DAY every year to Norway.
The CWS is not training their personnel about the parent-child bonding and not only children only without feeling for the parents in any way. Why do the family case hearings are held in camera? Is such secrecy in at all good for anyone of children and parents. Why percentage of sexual crimes in the children brought up under foster parents going high. How the CWS ensures the quality of parenting provided by foster parents are better than the biological parents? These are never evaluated. Why the evaluation process is so secret and ex-parte? Emotions are human quality and not being ruthless. Why people are afraid of the CWS.
🚨Propaganda 🚨
Taking children away from his family this is against humanity.
Off course she will in day support of as she is ex employee. Where is the credibility. And interviewer seems to be afraid of her, I see he is just nodding without any questioning.
Thank God sagarika fought and took away their kids from that country ....please look many other links, many other families that went through this,, that shows its a big business scandal where children are abused in the name of foster care..
Given that all people have implicit biases and Norway is no exception, I would probably not risk being a foreigner and going to a country where a bureaucrat has the power to kidnap your children (for their own good, of course).
To be honest, I don't think Barnevernet is that much worse than other power structures in European countries. But who was in their life in contact with any institution and saw what a mess it could be when you are trying to simply register a brand new car with your department of motor vehicles, where a nasty bitter bureacrat is sitting, who had a bad day and now decides to make a bad day for you as well, you get the idea. Now imagine it's not your car (or built permit or whatever), but your children.
On the whole, it might be better if one child is taken unjustly from decent parents, rather than hundreds of children being left to be abused like in other countries. But I just don't want my kids to be in any risk of being a collateral of a inherently human (thus totally fallible) system.
Yes!
….and when that unjustly taken commit suicide… that’s a risk to, there are a high volume of psychological factors involved in Barnevernet’s care…
I am happy today my parents hit me during my childhood when I did anything terribly wrong. This made me strong and take right decisions.
In the end no third person can love child more than parent. There can be bad moments but not bad parent.
These people need to travel world to see cultural differences and no culture is bad, it is right in its way.
In Norway you do not hit a child, same as you should not hit an adult. You do not assault another human.
If you have to hit somebody, you have lost control.
Your parents lost control the second they laid a finger on you. You may have felt like you were being "controlled" but It is not through "discipline" that has made you "strong and right decisions" - it's trauma, darling.
Whatever false rose-tinted feeling of 'respect' you have for your family is actually just hardened fear.
Would your parents also hit each other I wonder?
@@BlameItOnTheADD what if a terrorrist attack you , gonna behave like Mahatma Gandhi the Gandu - show your other cheek .
@@BlameItOnTheADD That is why Norway is a dying race today and very soon all that will be left in Norway are immigrants. A society without any family bonding in an cold, soul less, heartless, suffocating society does not survive. They become extinct.
@@BlameItOnTheADD The problem is the child services taking away kids when they are not abused. Any crazy neighbor can complain. No agency is above law and is to be held accountable. Else parents live in constant fear.
@Anne Nordland the reason u explained is not valid also ur girls and boys are converting already there will be no Norway culture anymore after 30 year
How much were you paid by the Norwegian government to support them?
He is a Norwegian citizen!
Came here after watching the movie. Feels like one of those videos where the comment section tells the truth behind the government institutions.
As a Norwegian mother of four and former teacher, it is fascinating and frightening to see how many people who have never set foot in Norway, but who still think they are fully educated in how Norwegian society works.
Most Norwegians know that there have been cases where Norwegian child protection has made mistakes, but we also know that we need child protection for the simple reason that not everyone who becomes a parent is able to raise the child in safety and with love. We know that child protection has been judged in several cases internationally, and appreciate that they are working to improve. We also know that we only hear the parents' version of the various cases that are mentioned in the media, and that child protection cannot release information. I don't believe for a moment that everyone who has been deprived of their children is telling the truth without hiding anything. It is in human nature to lie to protect yourself.
My best advice to people from other parts of the world who think they are experts in Norwegian child protection is that you don't come to Norway. We don't need people who can't raise their children with love and respect to become free individuals. Neglected or abused children will develop problems, and the violence will follow the generations. The possibility that such children will not function as future contributors to Norwegian society is great. They will possibly be better off where the family belongs, with their cultures norms and traditions.
Family doesn't mean ...there are no problem!
Family Life is not "be perfect". I Will be afraid of "no problem families". We see the result in the High % of suicide in Norway
@@peggyclio1199
Maybe you should check what the suicide rate in Norway actually is before you spread myths? It is no worse in Norway than in other western countries. Austria, Switzerland, France, Australia, Canada and Germany are just a few western countries that have a higher suicide rate than Norway. Portugal has about the same rate as Norway - can you explain their figures with the same reasons?
@@peggyclio1199
There are otherwise many non-Western countries that pride themselves on families that are far above Norway in the statistics.
Live in India guys, be street smart, earn well and live lavishly with family support and other help... inka welfare inko mubarak
Very true...sare Jahan se achcha Hindustan Hamara
She doesn't answer anything ...
It's called barnevern ( og verne barn ).
Verne = protect in English.
So barnevernet = child protection services.
Norway has not now or ever before had a child " welfare " service.
Welfare services in Norway is handled by another government agency called NAV.
TRY GET IT CORRECT IN ENGLISH.
So the state decide who are good parents by “assessing” the parenting style based on concern raised by a neighbor who doesn’t know the culture of a country different from yours. How INTOLERANT so if I am in Norway I have to let go of my culture and practice to bring up my daughter and adhere to what the state say NOT HAPPENING BRO I can’t believe this practices are still happening. And they call it a democratic country no wonder the social scene in that country is as cold as it’s weather.
They should not separated of kids from immigration family. It’s soft politics need..
It's the Norwegian version of the Spanish Inquisition.
Taking a child away from their natural family is atrocious.
State can not take child away forcefully with out parents consent.
A state is not giving birth to a child but a mother do.
Such brutality is violation of human rights. Nobody can take care a child like a mother.
But if a family hits their child....
@@ProfessorPrel generics can not be applied. There will be cases but if separation is an agenda built to a system then that is not justified. First priority of the state shall be reunion of child and parent not separation.
Be careful if you live or move in Norway it’s a hell on earth
This lady is lying about what they do. Also, she's aying ANY COMPLAINT is taken as gospel.
Sir apka video dekh ke norve ke bare me bahot kuch janne ka moka milta hai sir mai bhi norve aana chahta hu
What I hate about child welfare service in all countries is that they support kids from Abuse, physical and verbal, which is good but they dont chose to speak to kids that abuse the parents. I know patents that are physically, verbally and emotionally abused by their kids just because they could threat their parents for calling the child care service. I know a parent whose child started smoking Marjuana at age 14. She was not happy when she found out so she tried to have conversation with her about not smoking it again. The next day when she went to school they stopped her from picking her up and told her she would be picked by a welfare worker. She later on found out that the daughter lied to the teacher that she beat her. After a couple of months it was proved that she was not beaten and even the daughter agreed that she lied about it. Yet they moved the custody to the father who the mother divorced for beating her. When the mother confronted the daughter regarding Marjuana smoking which she still does, she said "even my case worker said there is nothing wrong in smoking Marjuana" its been 4 years now and the child dropped out of school tried commiting sucide and does not speak to the mother any more. Still smokes Marjuana and the mother thinks she is into other drugs too.
The only thing Welfare did was screw up this family forever. When the mother approached the Child services to ask then to help her rebuild her relationship with her daughter, she was told "Child Welfare cant help you with that" Then she asked who can "They said there is no department for that."
This is a very sad sad case of government poking its nose in all family matters. Let the family handle it. These western countries have broken family system and so have no idea or faith about how beneficial it is for the children. Rubbish notions.
you forgot to ask the fundamental questions:)
I think most people will understand the case if they(public) were given the cause of taking the kids away. Atleast when the case has caused outrage, they should make the case public keeping the persons private .
People use this confidentiality(the fact that barnevernet cant speak for itself to protect the persons involved) to their advantage for causing public outrage. Also true is bernervernet can use this confidentiality to abuse their power, take the children away without proper scrutiny, no system is perfect, everyone(general public, not involved in the case) should have the ability to see why they took away the kids, so they can better understand why bernevernat had to do it.
Also i think bernervernet should help parents to raise the children in a proper way or the norweigian way(say slapping etc., to discipline). Counselling, pampletes at birth, explaining to adults when they want to work in the country(Norway) all would help. Bernevernet should not take the first opportunity to seperate the children. Losing custody should be the last option, can be for physical abuse that would be threat to life and sexual abuse.
Bernervernet should make all possible efforts(helping the parents to raise kids in a similar way to paying for foster homes) to keep the child with parents(counselling parents on how to raise their kids and what can cause to lose custody).
If the kids were to be taken away, the custody should go to their extended family like grandfather brother or brother-in-law's family. Thats more reassuring to parents and kids.
Kids raised with their own biological parents are better physically and mentally in my opinion.
Also taking away kids and putting in random govt apporved homes and setting up for adoption looks to me like a left over from slavery.
If the norwegian authorities could pay for foster homes for kids, they should pay to related mental health institutions that would make the mother fit to raise "her own" child.
@@Macho98 the problem here in Norway is that the people in Barnevernet are low educated (3 years) and have way, way too much power to take children away from their parents. Allot of them are not parents themselves and have only read books and therefore think they know what’s the best way to raise kids.
When you have your own children some of the first things you learn is that nothing is the way you thought it was.
Let me explain it like this, it’s like saying to a blind person that you know how it feels because you have tried to walk with closed eyes… and then you actually go blind, then you know how it is.
COLD EMOTIONLESS to support taking infants away from their mothers just bcz the infant looks at visitors and not the mother therefore assuming the infnat must be abused lol
Does barnevernet has to prove that it is a better replacement for biological parents?
I mean… is the kids psychological welfare guaranteed to be better under them ?
Any accountability?
I think the abuse she's talking about is the trauma and heartache that they're coursing to those poor little kids, it's a horror that they have to face everyday 💔 😢 and she's laughing seem like a joke to her 😈
They do take them away for sure, dont know a case close to me in Norway but it just happened to a very close friend of mine in London. She is a PhD student 35 years old happily married and they are going through a nightmare.
so disturbing, especially the motivations behind it is number of cases and getting paid based on it. Shameful