A little tip that could be of use. Use relative fleet warp from your rod. Set up your thunderchilds/stormbringers 25-30km from your lightning rod before you start and just relative warp. It removes all of this extra set up with warping/cancel warp and makes your life so much easier. Also I feel like you are trying to min/max your set up so much that you are slowing yourself down and adding extra APM. 3 Tuning Systems, 2 inertias, 3 Hyperspatials +warp speed implant will save you more time than 2 additional penalized damage mods (Especially since you already have them rolled). Good guide otherwise and you do you! Just speaking from my experience after running thousands and thousands of sites.
The relative warp-ins is pretty useful but it really depends in the scenarios. I for example use Electro punch if I use relative warpins I will be out of range most of the time. For dual Inertia the penalty yess is there but again this is my pov I have so much alt that it kinda cancels out the penalty and I can potentially kill Npc Dreads with those.
@@Involves Fair points. I am curious how you are having range issues with relative warp and electropunch. Given I only bother with Havens and Rally points and can see how you would have issues on Hubs. If the way you do it works for you then perfect! Just wanted to throw out alternatives to people to really minimize the APM required. Another point for the inertias, I always prefer more safety on getting the thunderchilds to safety especially if you get scouted by a blue for a blops gang. They are so expensive that I prefer that little extra buffer of safety. Good vids either way. Keep up the good work!
He’s not relatively warping from 90 degrees above or below, so that’s probably why he’s having warp issues? But if you just go 15km above your rod and then relative warp you’ll land perfectly everytime.
Are you only using the drugs in the shared fitting window? No implants? I'm only using 5 Thunderchilds without rolled dmg mods vs the 7 you use and im alphaing the rod regularly.
scalpel and thalia are possible choices too, for their sig reduction bonus. You could also add in a halo set to reduce the sig even further. They dont tank as much as the assault frigs, but if you have 2 of them they would tank more for much less.
Thanks for sharing, Do the thunder child pilots all need t2 weapons to make it work ? Also what are yiu doing to orbit, I see that little blue circle you drag around, never seen that before
personally I use the faction one for the 45km range vs 40km. Not a big difference but you don't have to switch from Electropunch and Galvasurge as much.
The blue circle is Q-align. You press and hold Q to get the circle. The first click sets the distance and azimuth (angle in the horizontal plane). The second click sets the elevation (how steeply you go up- or downwards) and starts the movement. Your ship will then move towards that point probably overshoot a bit and then turn around and keep moving to that point. This works very well with the tactical overlay. I'd recommend setting your camera to an angle (not straight down on your ship, makes elevation hard to control) and practicing a bit in a safe environment.
hello sir, currently running with 9 thunders and i wanna make it up to 11. Im ratting angel spaceand want to one sbot each wave, could you suggest me rod fitting? so basycally nned to rep 350-400 and take 800 alpha strike from 11 thunders. Fit in discription could tank only 9
Been a long time since ive been waiting for someone to do this, whats your isk per hour and how does it compare to Machs and a paladin in terms of effort?
Theres alot of pros and cons discussion some prefer smb Machs some wants this thunderchilds Stuff in the end of the day im not here to show ppl what is the isk per hour but a basic tutorial. Ive climb with someone else a ess to 960M with a sec status of -0.4 (not even true sec) -Not even sanctum spawns -only 5 havens 3 gas two rocks -I smoke cigarettes and go outside so I took some breaks but we were doing approx 12x17m tics (we also bm and salavage behind) We also got ded's and shadow spawns.... So with all the numbers the factors the salvage possibilities the DED the ess the spawns there is so much that I honestly stop counting I sold my nyx because its not even comparable I try afk ratting 8 ishtars with a carrier also a big turn off I try quad boxing marauders not even comparable. This is fun this is what I like this is what I would recommend what you choose in the end is up to your gamestyle and fun per hour.
I think SB is faster but it takes a bit to set up since you have to go in and BM the center point....here you just warp the Jag to 0 and the TC's at range and pew pew right?
Yes and that setup is way more lucrative then smb machs because you can chew trought forsakens as well and you dont have to position its land, target , shoot and thats it
It would be great to see how you pew-pew with whole fleet And what isk/hour you getting? P.S. may be even speed up version, i think it would be interesting to watch
Hi, dont know if you have been ratting after the nullsec changes, still wanted to ask you if youre still making the same amount of isk after the patch?
i'm running 3 following this guide, and its already "hard", i can't chain havens bc i have to refill shields, either by theter or docking after 1-2 havens.
in eve-o preview Version 6.0 you can manually change your setting in the note of the preview itself it is allowed by CCP but take note that which ever keys are bind to eve-o preview will no longer work on your pc except for eve=o preview so mine are 1 = one client forward 2= one client backwards I've got ban a few months ago and I had to explain to ccp how it worked anbd since its in their third party program like SMT it is allowed it is not input broadcasting it is a shortcut keys binding it to alt+tab similar. sorry my English isn't my wirting isnt perfect.
Might be late and dont know if you read comments still. I was wondering about the ammo chice. Did you pick it just of purely on range? cuse it seems its way more expensive than like electro punch etc i might have missed something, Best regards Tom!
Electro punch is good yes, however blastshot is cheaper in 1Dq market then in jita, its very good mid range compare to the electro punch but the flaws of electro punch its very close range and you have to swap ammo if your doing rp's or Haven because of the warp-ins of the thunderchilds squad in relation to the rod. I mean best I can do is advised you what to do. its your gamestyle your play style do what you want to do to have fun this is active ratting its by far the best one Ive found its better then ishtars, marauders, Crab, super ratting its even better then pochven believe or not. For the risk versus reward type of shit BY far it also generates content for you and your friends yeah try to come rob my ess Im a crab with knives in all my pockets. so yeah its great. Until ccp devs thats plays in horde decide to nerf it which I wouldn't be surprise because thats what they do. Botting ishtars all ggood Active ratting not good for business if you know what I mean ;)
Are the relevant skills for your thunderchild alts perfect or just minimum of level 4 on most stuff? Trying to find out how realistic this is for someone without perfect skills.
@@Involves your accent makes me feel very homey and excited another Canadian is playing Eve. From MB here et bilingue aussi! Fly safe and keep putting out great videos !
Est ce que tu as une recommandation sur le nombre minimum de comptes nécessaires pour utiliser cette technique efficacement ? Est ce qu'une rod + 4 thunderchild c'est suffisant ? Si tu pouvais mettre les fit de la rod et des thunderchild en description ça serait parfait :D
Ya pas vraiment de recette magique tu peux utiliser cette methode entre amis, A mon avis pour etre efficace je dirais 3-Thunder et une Rod. Et oui tres bon point pour les fits.
Hey camarade canadien merci beaucoup pour la vidéo tu m'as beaucoup aidé dans mon propre setup. Un pote m'avait conseillé le sleipnir pour la rod mais j'ai pas les skills, savoir que je peux faire ça en AF est un soulagement. Perso je comptais faire ça avec 1 rod et 4 storm pour commencer, qu'en penses tu ? Après j'ai le pognon pour sortir 4 thunderchild donc, je sais pas trop ^^. Je te passes le bonjour de Goons et de la Colombie Britannique xd o7
I know the feeling. I used to do the same thing, now even when I make my vids from an older template it still takes like 4 hours. Looking forward to your next reel.@@Involves
I'm 2 rating with the Thunderchild. I make a 21M tick per toons this means 42M. I only do the Heaven with the gate. So no you don't need to have more than 3 accounts, I do fine with 2. I am not using a lightning rod, I target rats in both windows. My corp mate is using the Monitor for the lightning rod, and the TChilds have 1 RR to rep the Monitor.
PeAk PeRfOrMaNce, I hunt none important assets in the game and make sure I let everyone know about it. Its like saying your elite because you kill shuttles and new bros in corvette. wtf is wrong with this community nowadays the numbers of message like these I'm getting is quite remarkable. Trying to help ppl make isk and yall out there pointing out something completely off topic that no one cares about. TLDR MTUs Are so cheap to make you built them from scrap that you loot that easy so by all means if you wanna hunt mtu's and have Zero impact on the game or leave a mark with all due means.
Awesome video with some showcases of different play. I appreciate it.
A little tip that could be of use. Use relative fleet warp from your rod. Set up your thunderchilds/stormbringers 25-30km from your lightning rod before you start and just relative warp. It removes all of this extra set up with warping/cancel warp and makes your life so much easier. Also I feel like you are trying to min/max your set up so much that you are slowing yourself down and adding extra APM. 3 Tuning Systems, 2 inertias, 3 Hyperspatials +warp speed implant will save you more time than 2 additional penalized damage mods (Especially since you already have them rolled). Good guide otherwise and you do you! Just speaking from my experience after running thousands and thousands of sites.
The relative warp-ins is pretty useful but it really depends in the scenarios. I for example use Electro punch if I use relative warpins I will be out of range most of the time.
For dual Inertia the penalty yess is there but again this is my pov I have so much alt that it kinda cancels out the penalty and I can potentially kill Npc Dreads with those.
@@Involves Fair points. I am curious how you are having range issues with relative warp and electropunch. Given I only bother with Havens and Rally points and can see how you would have issues on Hubs. If the way you do it works for you then perfect! Just wanted to throw out alternatives to people to really minimize the APM required.
Another point for the inertias, I always prefer more safety on getting the thunderchilds to safety especially if you get scouted by a blue for a blops gang. They are so expensive that I prefer that little extra buffer of safety.
Good vids either way. Keep up the good work!
He’s not relatively warping from 90 degrees above or below, so that’s probably why he’s having warp issues?
But if you just go 15km above your rod and then relative warp you’ll land perfectly everytime.
Happy U took my Jaguar Suggestion finally 🤘
Yeah Everyone in corp was telling me the same I was having trouble finding a proper rod.
very helpful guide, thanks for posting!
Glad it help man!
could you do 3x thunderchild 1x smartbomb mach as rod?
Been running with three storms. Now three thunder. Will be interesting to see how things pan out
and is it effective? been wanting to get into stormbringers and ive got 3 accounts
@@tylernielson3870 yep. 15mil ticks on all three toons every 20 mins running rock havens in a 100bm system
Are you only using the drugs in the shared fitting window? No implants? I'm only using 5 Thunderchilds without rolled dmg mods vs the 7 you use and im alphaing the rod regularly.
what is the fit your using?
Mais il tombe à pic ce guide merci !
De rien 😁
scalpel and thalia are possible choices too, for their sig reduction bonus. You could also add in a halo set to reduce the sig even further. They dont tank as much as the assault frigs, but if you have 2 of them they would tank more for much less.
Oh god the thalia ! Ill try that one less used ship in the game hahaha love it
Est ce que ca vaut toujours le coup maintenant avec la nouvelle maj de respawn time ?
@@flocer1 c'est encore trop tot pour le dire.
Thanks for sharing, Do the thunder child pilots all need t2 weapons to make it work ? Also what are yiu doing to orbit, I see that little blue circle you drag around, never seen that before
personally I use the faction one for the 45km range vs 40km. Not a big difference but you don't have to switch from Electropunch and Galvasurge as much.
The blue circle is Q-align. You press and hold Q to get the circle. The first click sets the distance and azimuth (angle in the horizontal plane). The second click sets the elevation (how steeply you go up- or downwards) and starts the movement. Your ship will then move towards that point probably overshoot a bit and then turn around and keep moving to that point. This works very well with the tactical overlay. I'd recommend setting your camera to an angle (not straight down on your ship, makes elevation hard to control) and practicing a bit in a safe environment.
hello sir, currently running with 9 thunders and i wanna make it up to 11. Im ratting angel spaceand want to one sbot each wave, could you suggest me rod fitting? so basycally nned to rep 350-400 and take 800 alpha strike from 11 thunders. Fit in discription could tank only 9
@@ИгнатБезденежных add a crystal pod
@@Involves mid one? wont it bring capa issues?
@@ИгнатБезденежных not if you use synth booster and cap implants.
Been a long time since ive been waiting for someone to do this, whats your isk per hour and how does it compare to Machs and a paladin in terms of effort?
Theres alot of pros and cons discussion some prefer smb Machs some wants this thunderchilds Stuff in the end of the day im not here to show ppl what is the isk per hour but a basic tutorial.
Ive climb with someone else a ess to 960M with a sec status of -0.4 (not even true sec)
-Not even sanctum spawns
-only 5 havens 3 gas two rocks
-I smoke cigarettes and go outside so I took some breaks but we were doing approx 12x17m tics (we also bm and salavage behind)
We also got ded's and shadow spawns....
So with all the numbers the factors the salvage possibilities the DED the ess the spawns there is so much that I honestly stop counting I sold my nyx because its not even comparable I try afk ratting 8 ishtars with a carrier also a big turn off I try quad boxing marauders not even comparable.
This is fun this is what I like this is what I would recommend what you choose in the end is up to your gamestyle and fun per hour.
i do 8 mtus in each thunderchild x 5 so can do 40 sites in under 2hours then each thunderchild gets in itty 5 and can collect them in 15mins
I think SB is faster but it takes a bit to set up since you have to go in and BM the center point....here you just warp the Jag to 0 and the TC's at range and pew pew right?
Yes and that setup is way more lucrative then smb machs because you can chew trought forsakens as well and you dont have to position its land, target , shoot and thats it
BUT Big BUT in the end of the day you do What You enjoy the most 😅
Wanted to say hi! ~Marcia
It would be great to see how you pew-pew with whole fleet
And what isk/hour you getting?
P.S. may be even speed up version, i think it would be interesting to watch
I have already made such video if you look on my channel
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@@Involves Nice! Thank you!
Can you please also share what is isk/hour you are earning with this setup?
@@geraltrivyan I Cannot say tbh because I honestly don't know.
I knoow one thing about is that we make more then supers with that setup
th-cam.com/video/bqLi7yY2bkA/w-d-xo.html
There ya go a new one more up to date.
@@InvolvesOMG! That awesome! Thank you!
What happens if you warp them all to the ESS with a hostile vexor? 😅
I think we all the answer to that question especially jita markets 😅
ohh you have seen it haa
Hi, dont know if you have been ratting after the nullsec changes, still wanted to ask you if youre still making the same amount of isk after the patch?
I did not try it yet been busy IRL during summer I pave roads so dont got much time for eve
Nice guide, got a question ; Is 2 Thunderchild and 1 Stormbringer good? Without LR, i want to do Havens/RallyPoints and Ports
Its possible but havens are gonna be hella hard tho
i'm running 3 following this guide, and its already "hard", i can't chain havens bc i have to refill shields, either by theter or docking after 1-2 havens.
how were you able to switch between accounts so fast? what's the shortcut plz?
in eve-o preview Version 6.0 you can manually change your setting in the note of the preview itself it is allowed by CCP but take note that which ever keys are bind to eve-o preview will no longer work on your pc except for eve=o preview so mine are 1 = one client forward 2= one client backwards I've got ban a few months ago and I had to explain to ccp how it worked anbd since its in their third party program like SMT it is allowed it is not input broadcasting it is a shortcut keys binding it to alt+tab similar. sorry my English isn't my wirting isnt perfect.
thank you for the video
So, the lightening rod is just to avoid having to lock the new rats that spawn?
Yess positioning is key but in all fairness its pretty straight forward
Might be late and dont know if you read comments still. I was wondering about the ammo chice. Did you pick it just of purely on range? cuse it seems its way more expensive than like electro punch etc i might have missed something, Best regards Tom!
Electro punch is good yes, however blastshot is cheaper in 1Dq market then in jita, its very good mid range compare to the electro punch but the flaws of electro punch its very close range and you have to swap ammo if your doing rp's or Haven because of the warp-ins of the thunderchilds squad in relation to the rod. I mean best I can do is advised you what to do. its your gamestyle your play style do what you want to do to have fun this is active ratting its by far the best one Ive found its better then ishtars, marauders, Crab, super ratting its even better then pochven believe or not. For the risk versus reward type of shit BY far it also generates content for you and your friends yeah try to come rob my ess Im a crab with knives in all my pockets. so yeah its great. Until ccp devs thats plays in horde decide to nerf it which I wouldn't be surprise because thats what they do. Botting ishtars all ggood Active ratting not good for business if you know what I mean ;)
Are the relevant skills for your thunderchild alts perfect or just minimum of level 4 on most stuff? Trying to find out how realistic this is for someone without perfect skills.
Id recommend doing storm bringers until your vorton weaponery skills are at minimum IV and edencom Battleship is very important
Can the Jaguar pilot be effective in an empty clone?
Absolutely yeah but youll have to keep it moving and limit yourself with how many Thunder your using.
is there inplants for damage to tunder child?
negatory there is however, Pyrolancea IV
is it fine to use a crusier ship as rod ? say my friends stay in the storm and i use a alpha crusier ship as thir rod ?
I dont think a T1 cruiser could tank but we never know unless you try it ish
Deimos works well for stormbringers.
Quebecois? O7 great video! Was always curious about these ships.
Yea Im Qc
@@Involves your accent makes me feel very homey and excited another Canadian is playing Eve. From MB here et bilingue aussi! Fly safe and keep putting out great videos !
@@jean-claudeallard8359 on est plusieurs canadien dans Ma corp et on est deux de qc. ;-)
Great vid !
Est ce que tu as une recommandation sur le nombre minimum de comptes nécessaires pour utiliser cette technique efficacement ? Est ce qu'une rod + 4 thunderchild c'est suffisant ?
Si tu pouvais mettre les fit de la rod et des thunderchild en description ça serait parfait :D
Ya pas vraiment de recette magique tu peux utiliser cette methode entre amis, A mon avis pour etre efficace je dirais 3-Thunder et une Rod.
Et oui tres bon point pour les fits.
If you bring a marauder, a carrier or super you don't need anything else for the ratting. However you will be a target!
Hey camarade canadien merci beaucoup pour la vidéo tu m'as beaucoup aidé dans mon propre setup. Un pote m'avait conseillé le sleipnir pour la rod mais j'ai pas les skills, savoir que je peux faire ça en AF est un soulagement. Perso je comptais faire ça avec 1 rod et 4 storm pour commencer, qu'en penses tu ? Après j'ai le pognon pour sortir 4 thunderchild donc, je sais pas trop ^^. Je te passes le bonjour de Goons et de la Colombie Britannique xd o7
Yeah the storms are awesome to start with it gives you practice !
can this be done in drones ?
Probably not, you loose nothing to try
press F, not working with new changes. 9 thudners are about 500 isk/h
@@ИгнатБезденежных ccp got jealous. Now you make more isk mining the new anoms.
Nice job.
Thx man! Took me a week 1/2 to make the proper video I wrote a script that eventually I scrapped and decided to just eye ball it
I know the feeling. I used to do the same thing, now even when I make my vids from an older template it still takes like 4 hours. Looking forward to your next reel.@@Involves
I'm 2 rating with the Thunderchild. I make a 21M tick per toons this means 42M. I only do the Heaven with the gate. So no you don't need to have more than 3 accounts, I do fine with 2. I am not using a lightning rod, I target rats in both windows.
My corp mate is using the Monitor for the lightning rod, and the TChilds have 1 RR to rep the Monitor.
thnx for mtu hunting guide
PeAk PeRfOrMaNce,
I hunt none important assets in the game and make sure I let everyone know about it.
Its like saying your elite because you kill shuttles and new bros in corvette. wtf is wrong with this community nowadays the numbers of message like these I'm getting is quite remarkable. Trying to help ppl make isk and yall out there pointing out something completely off topic that no one cares about.
TLDR MTUs Are so cheap to make you built them from scrap that you loot that easy so by all means if you wanna hunt mtu's and have Zero impact on the game or leave a mark with all due means.
ah ben ah ben!!!
carriers are dead
Very useful guide, thanks!