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- So Sainz won the Australian GP, that's great right? Unfortunately now for Vasseur it appears that the wrong guy is winning Grand Prix and Ferrari are facing a conundrum. If Carlos Sainz continues this form and Charles Leclerc doesn't outperform him consistently, how does this bode for 2025? In addition how will Lewis Hamilton's poor start compare against Sainz who is flying right now? Things are hotting up in F1 and we are only a few races in.
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Will Leclerc overcome Sainz as the season progresses?
Yes
With help of Ferrari strategy, maybe.
With Vasseur tricks then sure.
I don’t think so.
Leclerc has a lot of bad luck. Sainz knows how to create his own luck. He’s the smarter driver.
Your beer vs champagne comparison touch on that as well I think.
I think Ferrari will have a drink problem next year. Lewis is also some kind super fancy drink. Bot are nr1 drivers. Not a good combo. Hamilton and Sainz on the other hand. That would be a winning team.
Only on Saturdays.
Leclerc is overhyped and overpaid. He is prone to errors, cracks under pressure, is not a true leader in the team. Always has and will do whatever Maranelly tells him to do on the radio.
Leclerc is a lot less likely to deviate from strategy. Carlos may not have as good pace, but he recognises slop when Ferrari try to feed it to him. Get the right people behind Charles, and he'll be a WDC in no time. Either that, or he needs to learn to bite the hand that feeds him at least a little bit.
Good points
Ferrari are definitely improving with their strategy since Fred (hopefully I dont jinx it) so I think he is getting closer to the WDC as I think they are making good strategy calls
Bro is just SMART
Honestly this season sainz's race pace has been better than charles, also if you're saying sainz is slower it's not by much I believe in the 2022 or 2023 season it was only by a margin of half a tenth (0.05). But this isn't a matter of we should have kept Sainz instead of charles to me... It's a matter of we should never have signed Hamilton.
@@julianmorgan79I think that while Carlos will disregard Ferrari strategy, Lewis brings enough weight that he can help actually change it. He won't tolerate stupid calls, and I think he'll work with Fred to either whip people into shape or get them out the door and bring the right people in.
That, or his personality won't mesh at all with Ferrari and he'll get frustrated then fizzle out. No way to know until it happens.
Hamilton will never win again. 😮
Its just true.😢
Sure, and Max was supposed to win Every race until 2026.
Sainz
Toro Rosso - Renault - MacLaren - Ferrari
Very adaptable
okokokok
sainz is great and I am a FAN.
but
there are 20 + qualifying sessions
and 20 + races in this season's sample size.
Let's wait till the end
Absolutely
Ig the highs of sainz are higher and now thats somewhat shadowing Leclerc s consistency. Altho Sainz race iq is visibly higher, ig the difference in expectations also play a role in this
Carlos is more consistent. Chuck is a rollercoaster.
Big time
Consistency is key, and if that were true, Carlos would beat Leclerc over a season. Even with back to back years of insane bad luck... Charles still beat Carlos over the year.
You think Charles is feeling the pressure to perform now, what happens when you bring in a7 time champion. Who do you develop the car around?
If carlos better his quali pace, keep in the shadows (I do not like the limelight he is getting ) he can do his job quietly and No Ferrari order won't hurt him much, he knows his way around them. He just needs to maximize the season as much as he can. He has nothing to loos (as he said the worst thing has already happened to him at the start of the season).
Yep it's all gravy from here on
I’d take Carlos over Lewis. Everyone forgets how unlucky he was in 2022. Getting yeeted by Russell at USGP and also by Riccardo at Imola.
Same here
As a Verstappen fan I loved that Ferrari won!
That's how it should be
Everyone is a Ferrari fan
Carlos is a driver who is not car sensitive. He adapts very fast to any car setups and rarely affected by them.
This situation maybe a blessing im disguise. Getting Lewis has already get Ferrari’s stock to shoot up. And by LeClerc kept being beaten by Sainz would make it easier to make Lewis’ transition to Ferrari smoother as Leclerc may not consider himself as the number one driver OR may not argue much if Ferrari treats Lewis as the number one at the begining.
Yes for Lewis this works well
What do you mean “kept getting beaten by sainz” lol sainz only won the head to head in 2021
You are hurting my head. What do you mean by Carlos not being ‘car sensitive’ as he clearly is. Sainz has a driving style that requires the aero balance being rewards thus promoting understeer, Leclerc the opposite. However Leclerc is shown to be become more adaptable apparent in Monza When the car was tailored to sainz. Moreover, start of 2022 sainz struggled to adapt to a car that had more oversteer and he demand the team to develop the car around his preference even tho Leclerc was fighting for the championship at the time, most likely done as a result of major Spanish backing to the team as Carlos family is known to be very toxic as stated by Marko.
Which severely hindered 2023 as a consequence. Therefore, if a car does not promote understeer he clearly lacks the speed to his teammate, conterary when it promotes understeer Leclerc still manages to keep on par with sainz .
your correct but u got to remember Carlos has always been equal to charles in 2021 he beat him in points in 2022 carlos had 7 dnf's charles had 3 so the ended with a 40 point dif but that is as expected then in 2023 they ended with only a 6 point dif and now in 2024 he is dominating i think he has shown a lot over these 4 years and finally now some people are giving him the respect he deserves. But the media is still trying to push charles as the better driver.
Bro Charles is clearly the better driver. It is evident in the statistics against his teammate.
Ferrari will be a mess next year. Team strategy will give Lewis preference, but his speed is not there anymore. LeClerc will be in a tough spot, he'll be the no 2 on the team.
I think Leclerc will have the edge over Lewis
If you think about it, Ferrari hired Sainz to be a “palliative” for Schumacher’s arrival
A carrier rival of schumacher
Better plug and play than other drivers
Can handle pressures really well
Can read the race and act accordingly
Idk why I'm reminded of alonso
"Too many things have to go right for Charles to win" Mu brother in Christ, that's EVERY driver thats not named Max Verstappen right now... Sainz included. Dont get me wrong, Saimz has been incredibly under rated and is an amazing driver, but all of the right things happened to him in all 3 of his wins. Ferrari got Leclerc's strategy wrong in Silverstone 2022, Verstappen had issues in Singapore and the car was not trimmed well for that track and Verstappen dnf'd in Australia. Yes it's true, Charles was not there to capitalize for Singapore and Australia, Sainz deserver those wins. But it would be stupid to ignore the sheer luck that played in. The last time Sainz beat Charles in quali was... Singapore. Charles had a 7 streak front row starts and in almost all of those races, Charles wouldve won if Max had any problems. Charles out perform Sainz about 5/6 races. The very few he doesnt just happens to be the ones Max's breaks decide to explode. You cannot ignore 90% of the data because the other 10% supports your narrative.
Leclerc is too high maintenance right now and that's my opinion. I'm not here to sort through tons of data.
@@thegridgab What on earth does that even mean? High maintenance? He does whatever Ferrari tells him to, and plays the team game when he can. He did his best to get Ferrari p2 in the constructors last year, and ultimately it was Carlos that let him down. When he has to let Carlos pass, he does, and even when hi fights Carlos, he keeps it clean. He's good post race, and doesn't need coaching, he's a great representative for Ferrari. What does "High maintenance" mean? That's not a valid point, especially considering, if anything, he is a low maintenance driver. Carlos' brother is likely a much bigger pain for Ferrari, good for Carlos but, if you ask me, he's "higher maintenance".
Sainz headed to red bull or RB
When is Ferrari not caused drama?
The statistics show F1 champions tend to win a title around their 4th year. Button, Mansell, and Andretti won their title in their 10th-12th season, and the very exceptional drivers win a title before the 4th year marker. I am of the mind that if a driver has not won a title in 10 years, someone else should have their seat. Carlos Sainz has been in 4 different teams in F1 coming up to his 10th season and only won 3 races. He might do a Jense and win, but his odds are getting slim. Ferrari were right to go with Leclerc and Lewis. All Lewis needs is rear end stability and downforce back on his rear tyres, to get the seat forward, and front end lock back on his car to brake late again, and he will be back. Leclerc will refine and improve with Lewis. Once the engine freezes are opened back in 2026, things will change.
Looking at Australian GP, Sainz surely have Torro Rosso (Red bull)
DNA....✌️
Ferrari must focus on keeping P2 in the Constructors or maybe even getting that golden calf of getting P1! They need to keep hiring top personnel to maintain their status and have the goal to win championships. 2026 or bust!
Leclerc will have enormous pressure on him this season thru 2026. He's become Vettel while he was in the other seat. If Leclerc can not deliver, Hello, Oliver Bearman! It is not outside the realm of F1 reality that Hamilton and Bearman could be driving in 2027. Either way, Ferrari win and stay relevant. Great thing about F1 is that Anything can happen.
Sainz has more to gain than anyone else on the grid currently. He can opt for Mercedes for a year or not. They could consider him as the new number 1 if GR fails to deliver and be hired for 2026. He could go to rbr and could potentially get some victories that Max (if there) could not obtain. If Max is gone, he could run that show with Lawson incoming. He could also go to aston stroll. Those three teams are more viable than Audi/Sauber as he wants to remain in a competitive car.
F1 is to blame for Sainz not having a seat at this date as the teams still refuse to bring in at least 2 more teams to the grid. With 10 teams, only half are viable and that's not for the wins, at least not yet. As an over milked ca$h cow for Liberty Media, they continue to spoil what was once a more enjoyable entertaining sport. But, we don't live in the past, do we?
Leclerc is self loathing high maintenance driver. Carlos just gets on with it, good or bad no baby sitting required.
Right on
I think Leclerc will have a good working dynamic with Lewis, they share allot of common interests. Also leclerc will get to understand how to be more composed
He could learn a lot
I don’t see any concern there.
imo Sainz is the model #2 driver. Not much is expected of him and can win if a few races [his pay reflects that]. LeClerc is not a #1 driver, not mentally tough to be a #1 driver. It's obvious that they signed Lewis and paid him like a #1 driver. Will LeClerc accept the role of a #2 because someone has to?
Dude. Your opinoons are exactly the same as mine. Great take 👍👍👍
Thanks very much!
If I was running Ferrari I would've kept both Leclerc and Sainz for next year. The lack of titles is not due to the drivers but because Red Bull is way ahead of the rest of the field. Unless Ferrari somehow manages to equalize in speed then they are bound for 2nd or 3rd position yearly.
I'm happy you didn't compare either drivers to a bottle of rum😂😂
Could do if you like
@@thegridgab don't ruin a good rum🤣🤣
It must be an F1 thing. One thing happens ( usually unexpected ) and all of a sudden everything has changed.
Sainz is the golden boy and Ferrari is BACK.
People seem to forget that Verstappen had a DNF.
Why not wait for Japan before everyone ( fans and F1 reporters alike ) proclaim Sainz to be the new Messiah.
I don't think anyone realistically expects for Sainz to win in Japan. 99 % chance is that Max obliterate his opponents in Suzuka. People mainly are comparing Sainz to Leclerc though
The reason Sainz is out is simple to see and its 2022 when Ferrari had the best car he wasn't the best help to Charles
That’s the past focus on the present
@@pepepopo8367 even with the present I would still take Charles over him
You've got it all wrong here. Carlos is not an issue here. Why? Because the stage has already been set whether he does well or not he will still have to leave because both Charles and Hamilton have contracts. That to me is a huge mistake on the part of Ferrari. The biggest issue is the signing of Hamilton. Make no mistake no doubt he has had a great career, but we are not dealing with a 23 year old Hamilton in his prime here. He will be 40 by the time he arrives at the Scuderia. While he is still a very good driver, he is no longer exceptional as shown by him being outqualified and beaten by Russell this season. That is not his fault because no one can defeat Father Time. In short, he is in decline just like you wouldn't say Alonso is in his prime at 42. If Hamilton's current downward trend remains, naturally you would expect him to be dominated by Charles just like he is being dominated by Russell now. If that is the case, what the clueless John Elkann has done is to get rid of a fantastic driver in Carlos while replacing him with a massively overpaid ex-champion in decline. Also, it is shocking when you look at the discrepancy in salaries between Carlos and Charles. Perhaps when Carlos first arrived at the Scuderia, he wasn't highly regarded because of his past records, but ever since he has been a huge pleasant surprise. I am not necessarily saying he is better than Charles, but they are very close. In the end, all Ferrari has done is to break up a great drivers pairing. If you are paying Hamilton $100 mil a year, he will have to be significantly better than Carlos right? Let's see what happens. I think many people will be disappointed.
Not quite sure how I got it all wrong here...did you watch the whole thing?
@@thegridgab What I am saying is whether it looks bad or not on Ferrari with Carlos, there is nothing anyone can do about it. I detest the move personally, but is already a done deal. What is more important going forward is Hamilton. If like I said he gets dominated by Charles just he is being dominated by Russell now, that is when things can really backfire on Ferrari.
I agree with most of what youre saying, rascalluci, but you have to remember: Contracts mean nothing in this sport. There's always an exit clause. Whether it be in regards to performance standards that must be met by the driver or just a sum of money to be paid by the driver or the team. There's always an out. Look at Devries being kicked out of alphatauri mid season last year. Anyhow, Ferrari have themselves a tricky situation...
@@woutergrob8587 Even if Ferrari wants to break contract say with Hamilton somewhere down the road, the ship (Carlos) would have already sailed and Ferrari wouldn't be able to turn back the clock. Who do they get then? The drivers market would be so different at that point. For now, we can only say with regards to Carlos, unfortunately for him and those Tifosi who appreciate him, his chapter at Ferrari is over. Of course there is still the saying "never say never", but in the meantime so much time will be wasted and Carlos will be older too say in 2 years unless they could get rid of Hamilton after a year. I had been a Tifosi for decades since I was 9 until this Hamilton signing. I have been in contact with many fellow Tifosi from all over the world who are also very upset with the Hamilton signing whereby like me they have now also become ex-Tifosi. I am not proclaiming we represent the majority of the Ferrari base, but surprisingly or not surprisingly a lot of Ferrari fans are disgusted by this move. You fire drivers for being terrible such as Ricciardo, you don't fire drivers who are performing well especially by replacing him with an aging ex-champion in decline.
I like charles but i don’t like how he isn’t aggressive, I feel like he had a good chance to fight sainz for the win and lead the championship
I'm surprised he didn't either
he didnt have the pace mate
The team shut that door down very early on, as soon as Leclerc was in P2..."maintain position". They weren`t going to risk a 1-2 and rightly so: Leclerc is now a couple of points behind Verstappen, and Ferrari, just a few points behind RBR. Swapping them would have given Leclerc the lead in the drivers championship, but that would have been very unfair and a PR disaster to boot. For whatever reason Leclerc was not able to perform at his usual level in quali, and that is ultimately what decided the race. The team rightly thought that the maximum result (1-2 plus fastest lap) was the ultimate target rather than risking jeopardizing an open goal result by having their drivers fighting on track, and for once, they did everything right.
If Leclerc finished his last qualy attempt at Australia maybe we would not even be talking about this right now. He was green green at first 2 sectors.
Leclerc is a champion by nature
And the best part is - he has RESULTS to back this claim 😂
I saw him in Sauber and I never could like him. I see him as a less successful, more washed down Lulu-style complainet - Percival at least says sorry sometimes, but it's always the car somehow 🙄
In the quiet words of one Ayrton Senna, “If you no longer go for a gap that exists, you're no longer a racing driver!"
In Melbourne the gap to snatch the championship lead from their rival was wide open. Disgustingly unprofessional from Vasseur to not have his drivers switch positions in my opinion.
(But then, I don't rate this clown as team "boss" at all since Las Vegas, so this blunder didn't come as much of a surprise.)
Vasseur only is Leclerc butler. More than a clown.
@@josepbenet3694 Indeed... imagine how he must feel now. Arranged a new 5-year contract for his mentee and along comes boss-man Elkann, "Oy, I've signed us a world champion, now go and tell your kid he will be Lulu's shoeshiner for the next four years." ;)
And you reckon Carlos would have moved over? He is building his value to other teams by winning, he didn't put a foot wrong and is sick of kowtowing to the inferior racer in LeClerc. If Carlos is in front Charles is gonna have to overtake legitimately or stay behind. Carlos has nothing to lose.
@@brookfredericks1984 Ah yes... and putting his own interests over those of the team will endear him to future employers?
This is Formula 1, not some creche were toddlers throwing a tantrum when things not going their way. Nothing personal, just business.
If you're getting paid 12 million a year you better learn pronto not to be "sick and tired" over what you've been told to do.
@@aoife1122 We have seen plenty of drivers ignore team orders, Vettel springs to mind on multiple occasions, and continue to get offers from good teams. If LeClerc wants victories he needs to step up, not just have his team mate hand wins over. Luckily, Charles won't have to worry next year as his team mate will be a long way behind....
If cry baby Hamilton joins ferrari he will ruin the ferrari name just like he's ruined F1 full stop why not let new drivers join
Did you write that with tears in your eyes? lol
@@DavidJohnson-dc8lu why