Something tells me this would be even sketchier in the rain. What are these things meant to sense? Vehicle counting? Speed? The only sensors we have in my part of the US are the red light ones that are just a wire underneath the pavement.
In the UK to count as a defect a pothole has to be more than 30cm wide with a 40mm vertical edge. When reported it gets given a job number, some months later when the damage claims are getting out of hand it might get filled badly.
New Zealand is a strange place. The government does stupid things on purpose, jeopardizing public safety. Some bloke makes a TH-cam video about it and everyone attacks him for it? Anyway, thanks for making this video and calling out government stupidity! Keep up the good work!
Someone in government didn't think ahead. That never happens in NZ or USA or UK. Um... If you move off center of lane to avoid them, are you "committing a crime" by messing up their traffic count?
The info we got from the designer of these devices is that they can be installed much quicker and cost less than the traditional rubber rope counters, and theyre more reliable, giving information on number of cars, distinguishing between cars, trucks, vans and busses, direction of travel and speed.
It's accountability, if they consciously place something in the road, that isn't made apparent by sign or road markings who is responsible if it causes an accident? A pothole or puddle aren't put their by the local or state government! It's a design flaw!
Completely missed my cameo in that video, was too busy looking at the wheels to notice my Africa Twin was making a short appearance. And quite funny as I tend to avoid riding over them so one of the rare occasions where I actually road over one.
You can just avoid it, I hear you say, but I’ve also heard from those who never saw it, at night, in the wet, etc. even worse, if they place these anywhere you might be leaned over, the susspension can’t handle that sort of load well, ant with that air time, you could loose control.
That is absolutely nothing to any rider with a modicum of skill. Try being leaned over in a curve at 70kph and going over a 4" (10cm) high frost heave that covers the entire lane. That little avoidable chunk of plastic in the middle of the lane (where you shouldn't be riding anyway) wouldn't worry me in the slightest.
@@max___power No way AI can't do the job. If it really is needed. Counting cars is easy. A normal program can do it. I live in the poorest country in the EU and count camera's are everywhere. No way they pay someone to watch it and count cars.
Random obstacle avoidance practice... almost as much fun as looking for logs to jump in the middle of nowhere! but who rides in the centre of the lane? If it were placed somewhere where there is Tar bleed & potholes either side of it, then that could be a problem. but the majority of us would avoid it, and that means it's technically useless as it wouldn't count us!
It's a Kawasaki. Every factory bike would have pretty similar suspension. Or do you think we should all buy Showa Forks and Ohlin's shocks just in case we find one of these?
These are not on turns I gather as loss of 100% front wheel traction even for a split second on a turn plus momentum the bike goes down. In the wet again even worse. Reason for tacking them on to the road not embedded in is the cheaper option and riders don't exist for 65& of the population out there.
I do. its made by RevIt. But seriously, in this day and age where we are meant to be mitigating risks, these are a needless risk to motorcyclists. they are placed on corners as well as straights, and would be slippey as hell int he wet. not to mention how much they unsettle the bike. In reality, when you are saying motorcyclists are over represented in crash stats, you cant then go and put a risk in the way and expect it to be ok.
@ and of course you’ve never hit a pothole, lost traction on raised road markings, never hit gravel and saw every hazard in enough time to take an optional line 🤦♂️
Something tells me this would be even sketchier in the rain.
What are these things meant to sense? Vehicle counting? Speed? The only sensors we have in my part of the US are the red light ones that are just a wire underneath the pavement.
In the UK to count as a defect a pothole has to be more than 30cm wide with a 40mm vertical edge.
When reported it gets given a job number, some months later when the damage claims are getting out of hand it might get filled badly.
Great video Ray and Mark.
These straight line demonstrations show why they have the potential to cause issues through roundabouts and corners, etc.
New Zealand is a strange place. The government does stupid things on purpose, jeopardizing public safety. Some bloke makes a TH-cam video about it and everyone attacks him for it?
Anyway, thanks for making this video and calling out government stupidity! Keep up the good work!
Someone in government didn't think ahead.
That never happens in NZ or USA or UK. Um...
If you move off center of lane to avoid them, are you "committing a crime" by messing up their traffic count?
Roads transitioning to bridges are so awful in Florida. This little things is nothing in comparison
What is the purpose? If it's just counting, in UK we still use those rubber tubes which, when compressed, trigger the counter
The info we got from the designer of these devices is that they can be installed much quicker and cost less than the traditional rubber rope counters, and theyre more reliable, giving information on number of cars, distinguishing between cars, trucks, vans and busses, direction of travel and speed.
So whats the diff if you come against a pot hole in a puddle?, go round it?
It's accountability, if they consciously place something in the road, that isn't made apparent by sign or road markings who is responsible if it causes an accident? A pothole or puddle aren't put their by the local or state government! It's a design flaw!
LTNZ doing their best to make the roads unsafer...
appreciate the heads up on these. I haven't seen any yet but now I will be looking out for them.
Completely missed my cameo in that video, was too busy looking at the wheels to notice my Africa Twin was making a short appearance. And quite funny as I tend to avoid riding over them so one of the rare occasions where I actually road over one.
Time to get the socket set out.
Thanks for the heads up
Hopefully we don't get this in Australia too even more hazards to deal with
You can just avoid it, I hear you say, but I’ve also heard from those who never saw it, at night, in the wet, etc. even worse, if they place these anywhere you might be leaned over, the susspension can’t handle that sort of load well, ant with that air time, you could loose control.
Unless it becomes an offence to avoid them I'll give them a miss.
Obviously I didn't bugger up the filming too much yesterday afternoon 😁
That is absolutely nothing to any rider with a modicum of skill. Try being leaned over in a curve at 70kph and going over a 4" (10cm) high frost heave that covers the entire lane. That little avoidable chunk of plastic in the middle of the lane (where you shouldn't be riding anyway) wouldn't worry me in the slightest.
Would 20 ltrs petrol and a match take care of the "new traffic sensors"??
I would go around it.
It's on the straight. No big deal. IDK why they don't use camera's though.
Because a camera requires a person to interpret the data it recorded...These are data loggers and will do all the work on thier own.
@@max___power No way AI can't do the job. If it really is needed. Counting cars is easy. A normal program can do it. I live in the poorest country in the EU and count camera's are everywhere. No way they pay someone to watch it and count cars.
Random obstacle avoidance practice... almost as much fun as looking for logs to jump in the middle of nowhere!
but who rides in the centre of the lane?
If it were placed somewhere where there is Tar bleed & potholes either side of it, then that could be a problem. but the majority of us would avoid it, and that means it's technically useless as it wouldn't count us!
They register motorcycles up to 1.5m either side, so you’re still counted.
Try them on a bike with decent suspension .....😁
It's a Kawasaki. Every factory bike would have pretty similar suspension.
Or do you think we should all buy Showa Forks and Ohlin's shocks just in case we find one of these?
These are not on turns I gather as loss of 100% front wheel traction even for a split second on a turn plus momentum the bike goes down. In the wet again even worse. Reason for tacking them on to the road not embedded in is the cheaper option and riders don't exist for 65& of the population out there.
Thats just the thing, these were placed around 2 very busy roundabouts, on the entrance and exit.
Just don't corner on them
It’s like the fly in the toilet bowl every one must who is unaware piss on it.
Wrap yourself in bubble wrap.
I do. its made by RevIt.
But seriously, in this day and age where we are meant to be mitigating risks, these are a needless risk to motorcyclists.
they are placed on corners as well as straights, and would be slippey as hell int he wet. not to mention how much they unsettle the bike.
In reality, when you are saying motorcyclists are over represented in crash stats, you cant then go and put a risk in the way and expect it to be ok.
Can I ask, do you ride a bike?
@@meerkat0111 i do. but i just ride around things, its the main advantage of a bike.
@ and of course you’ve never hit a pothole, lost traction on raised road markings, never hit gravel and saw every hazard in enough time to take an optional line 🤦♂️