Defining "Wokeness": Why it's a threat to liberty. ( Gamerant - Batman NES }

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  • @whenimmanicimgodly4228
    @whenimmanicimgodly4228 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    6:40 100% right here. Gatekeeping CAN be goof and bring many benefits. As a personal example, I used to get paid to play WoW, I was decently good and helped trained other people in my guild either pre joining or after joining to prepare them for the fights and wpvp we were in. Now, often times this lead to having to be pretty cut throat on who goes where and who does what, because if we didn't we would lose. Sometimes this upset people, but our team had several years straight of never dying or having our wold bosses killed by our enemy guild in the alliance. Had we not gatekept this way, I highly doubt we wpuld have even gotten 4 months of never letting our world boss dying. And, the only times they Did kill our world bosses was when they planned ambushes when they knew everyone went to sleep. Eventually, this allowed them to win.
    While gatekeeping can appear rude and cut throat, all it is is ensuring the right people are doing the right thing that they're best at. It's not some rude thing, it's just that some hobbies and groups NEED maximum efficiency and co-operation. You knkw what doesn't help with efficiency and co operation? People arguing about whether someone deserves t or be there or questioning their skills.
    Some things DONT need gatekeeping, but I'm a firm believer SOME things need gatekeeping d

    • @capt.raptor4650
      @capt.raptor4650 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      gatekeeping sure would've been useful when my buddy and I resisted a community we were in implementing _stupid_ woke censorship out of nowhere by creating our own community which in a few months gained about half as many members as the original had gained over _years,_ lol. we weren't anticipating such gusto from so many people, so what was intended to be a small subcommunity for freedom-minded individuals became sorta mainstream-and then the woke infiltrators came, subverted, and took over the place by running big harassment campaigns against my buddy and I _(nearly_ doxxing us) as well as anyone else who spoke out against them.
      it was sad watching our hard work go to waste, to say the least; _we should've gatekept._

  • @liamstewart2287
    @liamstewart2287 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    Let's make the definition spicier...
    Wokeness: A collectivist belief stating that any outcome that doesn't favor, and/or include a specific group, which is always defined by arbitrary physical and/or social characteristics, is inherently indicative of malice against that group, and thus merits the use of psychological and/or physical coercion to force the favoring, and/or inclusion of that group.

    • @JMObyx
      @JMObyx 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Bingo.

    • @WhyYouMadBoi
      @WhyYouMadBoi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ., k . M n.v n. mlm😢

    • @shoesbutsockless
      @shoesbutsockless 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      the inclusion aspect is just another form of the equity fallacy, it's the progressive-leftist part of wokeness,
      but the other aspect that makes wokeness different from just leftism in general is the aggressive pushing of their beliefs onto others and the 'woke scolding' of those that won't fall in line. I don't know a good word for it but the nazis and communists used to do the same thing, it's a common trait among all extreme progressive ideologies.

    • @williamdrum9899
      @williamdrum9899 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Any opinion that ends with "If you disagree you are a bigot"

  • @OntheOtherHandVideos
    @OntheOtherHandVideos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Man, you keep putting out great stuff, and you don't overstay your welcome - you deliver and are done, which I really appreciate!

  • @redseagaming7832
    @redseagaming7832 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Where the loser is celebrated while the winner who Did all the work is Regarded as the villain.

  • @silverstar8868
    @silverstar8868 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    This idea needs to be understood. So many people need to realize it is completely fine to not be a part of everything. No one is entitled to be part of every group, or environment, or fanbase.

  • @NebLleb
    @NebLleb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    Oh trust me, I get what wokeness is.

    • @MentisWave
      @MentisWave  2 ปีที่แล้ว +103

      I suspect a huge number of those who sub to my channel will already know and/or agree with at least 50% of this video. The main point was to make a video that can be linked to whenever someone is clueless or makes a nonsensical statement like "Wokeness is when brown pipo exist."

    • @NebLleb
      @NebLleb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@MentisWave Ever since I was 21, I knew the definition of wokeness was basically "the act of aggressively demanding dedication to left-leaning causes." Which is also a good definition.

    • @adriant240
      @adriant240 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@MentisWave You know, I find it interesting how some people instantly "get" what woke means while some are completely oblivious to the definition...even to this today miraculously. Well part of that has to do with the mainstream "liberal" media's constant propaganda campaign to deny that wokeness has any meaningful definition and that it's just some "Republican political talking point" or "anything that conservatives don't like". I know people who use these definitions are npcs and they just get them from CNN or CBC. The mainstream liberals, which are wokesters or grifters themselves (usually both), are also trying to maintain the old definition of woke, which means some virtuous "socially aware" person in order to paint themselves as innocent and to deny how the opposition has co-opted the word to describe the regressive liberal ideologies that took over the Left this past decade or so. Those being Critical Social Justice infused with post-modernism and the dreaded gender ideology.
      But back to the people who don't understand what woke means, I think part of it has to do with low IQ and political illiteracy and the other part has to do with lack of knowledge of progressive liberal ideas before woke took over. Because if you were a liberal back then, you should be able to see how woke took over progressivism and social justice to the extreme and the sharp contrast should be apparent. People who instantly get what woke means quickly see this contrast and realize something is amiss. I have liberal friends who instantly realize what woke means, so this process is clear to me. Only dimwits or people who are new to politics don't seem to understand what it means. Those who don't understand what woke means mistake it for real social justice, and that's the critical mistake people make. Because a lot of what woke does and says, even the words that the EDI acronym stands for, sound very virtuous and harmless. "Psshh, muh equity sounds good, who wouldn't want that?" They don't realize that once you remove the attractive packaging there is just rot inside. I suspect a lot of people don't even know that equity does not mean equality. But they don't dive deeper into it and instead just gobble up what the propaganda in the media tells them. Woke ideologies also hijacked human rights and shoehorned a lot of stuff in there which honestly does not belong. Stuff like gender identity. This is a common tactic of the woke, which they then use to beat you over the head with and accuse you of "opposing muh human rights" when you try to disagree with their ideologies.
      EDI is the centre of woke, but I would suggest you add gender ideology because that is a very prominent woke ideology which EDI ubiquitously supports and pushes. Also it is interesting to trace the roots of how post-modernism influenced woke thinking. I don't have the expertise in that but there is definitely something to that which merits more attention.

    • @adriant240
      @adriant240 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@NebLleb "the act of aggressively demanding dedication to left-leaning causes"
      No, that is not the correct definition, at least not the full definition. Let me add to it: The act of aggressively demanding dedication to left-leaning causes which are extreme departures from traditional liberalism and leftism. Yes, there is a bit of overlap with the old Left, but most of it is very new ideas. Take for example the phrases they commonly use which are considered woke phrases and words: equity, diversity, inclusion, anti-racism, unconscious bias, cultural appropriation, micro-aggression, BIPOC, lived experience, and so on, inducing the whole new LGBT lexicon. These words did NOT exist on the Left until very recently. And it's the types who use these words who are aggressively pushing this stuff, the types who work in EDI. Keep in mind that the woke are very censorious and punitive, qualities which did not exist on the Left before. The Left used to be the ones who fought for freedom of speech, but no longer the case, and it's funny how woke leftist who lack this awareness (they are aware that they used to fight for freedom of speech but they're not aware of how they are now destroying it) become instant parodies of themselves.

    • @teonactalpizza
      @teonactalpizza 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@adriant240^the left can't meme.

  • @MJesDK
    @MJesDK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    As you note, woke characters always "represent" - because if they didn't, they wouldn't serve their purpose.
    This, tellingly, is why wokesters constantly reframe every new woke character as 'The first X'.
    It is why they do this in full denial of previous characters, especially those that weren't woke.
    The old ones no longer exist, because they either don't "represent" enough, or never did at all.

  • @Noperare
    @Noperare 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    11:50 "instantly liked" I would say Anakim got instantly hated. From the start the jedi order told he was too old to start studying. Even after he became a member of the jedi consul, they still refused to accept him as equal. It is understandable why he turned to the dark side after being treated like scum by the jedis for years despite all his achievements.

    • @garrettgoss2691
      @garrettgoss2691 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The Jedi were clouded by fear and uncertainty while trying to find their way through the shroud of darkness that Palpitine exuded. You have an unstable, extremely powerful child who has had a horrible upbringing as a slave, in a system extremely far from Republic space and society, of course you're going to be cautious giving him any position or power

  • @TriggeredJelly
    @TriggeredJelly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    A consequentialist who wants more DIE (diversity, equity, inclusion) in the world does not take into account the _consequences_ of DIE for economics and personal freedom. That's a pretty short-sighted consequentialist, if you ask me.

    • @H.Hardrada
      @H.Hardrada ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Well, it depends on one's personal moral perspective. "Making the world a better place" may look different depending on one's preferences and values. In a way its a self-fulfilling prophecy for them. Their values(DEI, for example) give us a glimpse as to what type of world they would prefer. They plainly might not think personal freedom and economics are necessary for a better world.

    • @Tank50us
      @Tank50us ปีที่แล้ว

      @@H.Hardrada And if we take it to the logical, what "Making the world a better place" means to a different people will vary immensely. For example, a follower of Sharia Law may consider the world a "better place" if all the gays and and 'non believers' were either exterminated or converted. All women bow to their men, etc, etc. Meanwhile, an Anarchist might consider the world a better place if all of the governments just Thanos snapped out of existence, and people could be free from the shackles of government.... the list goes on.
      The point is, I think it's a noble goal to want to make the world a better place. But I think trying to make the *entire* world a better place is a bit far fetched. So instead, for those reading, I suggest this: Make _YOUR_ world a better place. Adopt a pet if you can, learn a marketable skill, shoot for that promotion, find the love of your life, bring new life into the world, start a business, do something that is ultimately positive for you, and those immediately around you. And, if at the end of your life, you have a funeral precession that extends for miles (because that many people attend your funeral)... congrats... you have made the world a better place.

  • @NanoGamingGamer
    @NanoGamingGamer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    4:50 people have repeatedly shown that they cannot make the best decisions for themselves if they are low IQ.

    • @MentisWave
      @MentisWave  2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Disparate impact laws have resulted in US companies being effectively banned from using IQ tests in hiring decisions.

  • @fatrick9001
    @fatrick9001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I've already referred others to watch particular vids of yours several times before, so I'm sure this one will come in handy too. I think you could have said more about how wokeness drives hate, paranoia, and divison (when compared to something like old fashioned color-blindness) though. It is just one of many divide and conquer tactics convenient to statists.

  • @energeticyellow1637
    @energeticyellow1637 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This is actually a really good explanatory video and it pains me to see its not that popular.

  • @margerald1
    @margerald1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Nice arguments, I might use them some day.

  • @firenze6478
    @firenze6478 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Doesn’t matter how many times you define it, the same people will just find someone else to spout, “define woke.”

  • @smfe
    @smfe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The first part I agree with, but it's important to recognize that sometimes disparate outcomes can be the result of discrimination. Of course, not all the time, and it's not always the only cause, but it's still a real issue.

    • @Yarsig
      @Yarsig 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      But you have to prove that.
      You can't just say that the outcome is discrimination without any evidence just because it COULD be a logical outcome of that conclusion. It's the same logical fallacy people use when they say cops are racist because there's a disproportionate amount of black people who are killed by cops. What about the disproportionate amount of violent crime that black people commit? Uncomfortable questions like that need to be asked, and these wokies are too afraid to ask them to come to any meaningful and ACCURATE conclusions.
      THAT's why woke culture is so dangerous, because people are too scared to delve into uncomfortable conversations. And even worse, finding conclusions that they didn't want and scrapping or changing the variables to make it seem better or say what they want it to say. It doesn't help that a lot of these people say these dumb things and expect YOU to prove them wrong, rather than them needing to prove their statements true.

    • @MentisWave
      @MentisWave  2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      True. However, the burden of proof should be on the person making that accusation. The problem with disparate impact is that it shifts the burden of proof onto the accused to somehow prove that they are not secretly a bigot, which is completely ridiculous.

    • @smfe
      @smfe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@MentisWave Fair

  • @rynerlute104
    @rynerlute104 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    11:02 Where is this thumbnail from?

  • @emanekaf145
    @emanekaf145 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Ehh! Namedropping Literature Devil! His channel is one of my favourites, though I'm sad his uploads are getting further and further apart.
    This is a decent breakdown. Granted, my personal bias being media analysis might lead to my wanting more depth in that part of the video. Personal bias.

  • @pensador6953
    @pensador6953 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Woke: The ethics and processes of marxism applied to intersectional identitarian conflict
    or intersectional identitarian marxism
    or american maoism.

  • @adriant240
    @adriant240 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Your definition certainly is good, but there's more to woke than that. Woke ideology encompasses gender ideology as well. And you can broaden it from the definition of EDI (which is kind of the application of the ideology) to the ideology of Critical Social Justice infused with some elements off post-modernism. Another way of defining woke which is accurate is the new set of ideologies which took over the Left over past decade or so. So if you were a liberal or leftists prior to let's say...2010, then you should be able to easily distinguish woke liberal or woke leftist from non-woke liberal and non-woke leftist. Mainstream media propaganda and leftoids try to dismantle and disown this definition and redefine it as "anything conservatives don't like". Which we know is absolutely false. There are some conservatives who can misuse the word "woke" that way, but most of us who are aware what woke means know that woke has a fairly clear and definable definition.
    As for disparities among groups, there certainly can be some which are due to discrimination. But the problem with woke and EDI is that they attribute all disparities to discrimination and try to gatekeep the topic in order to further their fake careers. Thus making it impossible to have any honest and meaningful discussion on these issues. And yes there are certainly disparities which are due to cultural differences. As for men and women, a lot of disparities are due to innate differences between the two. And of course we know woke don't accept that. They believe men and women are blank slates who are capable of achieving perfect equity across everything. Quit an absurd and disillusioned belief to have, but that is why woke is regarded as insane.

  • @TheKingOfIdiots
    @TheKingOfIdiots ปีที่แล้ว +10

    So... Being Woke Just Means Beileveing in the Equity Fallacy?

    • @HannibalKing-e7e
      @HannibalKing-e7e 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No. Wokeness is anti-white.

    • @aetherblackbolt1301
      @aetherblackbolt1301 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not quite. It is using the equity fallacy when it helps collectivists increase the power of their favored group, but when their favored group is in power (eg the NBA), they shut up about equity

  • @goodday512
    @goodday512 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If standing up for oppression against minority groups is 'woke', I'm proud to be woke.

  • @adriant240
    @adriant240 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Spot on how diversity and equity are not some inherently virtuous terms which we all must adopt immediately. Diversity can be good or bad, depending on the context. But we know by diversity they mean race and identity and not other qualities, as long as they're not straight white males, the category which we must always seek to reduce, ironically even when they are not the majority in a scenario. And ethnic diversity by no means guarantees diversity of ideas. Diversity of ideas can also occur among the same ethnic group. Same with equity. We wouldn't want to push for full equity between men and women...because news flash, they different. On the other hand, finding some inequities between races can point out to some discriminatory practices, either local or society wide. Of course, this needs to be backed up by evidence and logic as well.
    As for inclusion...it's a meaningless term really which the woke usually use to push certain people among the LGBT and their ideologies onto society. If you check for what context the word "inclusion" is used most often, you will find that vast majority of time it's in the LGBT context. So the word is essentially a tool for the woke to shoehorn LGBT stuff on society. Call it Double Speak.

  • @mighty1330
    @mighty1330 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Great video as always 👌

  • @Treblaine
    @Treblaine ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It's not perfect but Neo-marxist also fits. It at least fits as well as Neo-N@sl applies to mere reactionaries who fundamentally reject the socialist aspect of National Socialism.

  • @anelbegic2780
    @anelbegic2780 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    What I love lost is whrn obviously left leaning people act shocked and appauled when you call them woke, despite doing the same actions as the woke, and call you out because their definition is stuck jn the 2000's "SJW defonition" parameters.
    They can't imagine that something is woke unless it's sk blatantly overt, I know why though.

    • @TheDon266
      @TheDon266 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's even more stupid than that because their definition doesn't even contradict the colloquially known definition. When people refer to wokeness they're referring to the leftist authoritarianism caused by this "see bigotry in everything" (unless it isn't white straight or normal of course) mentality.

  • @staplewarrior4903
    @staplewarrior4903 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3:34 is that killer moth or firefly? I know it’s off topic but I’m just curious

  • @MrSchnorkel
    @MrSchnorkel 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I would say that being woke by itself means being aware of (perceived) institutional injustices against certain groups of people. The push for DEI would be the action that logically follows for the people who are woke, making it the woke agenda. Works of art can be woke without following the woke agenda. For example, in Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater, which is set in 1964, the character of Sigint at one point says that he couldn't get a job as a high-tech researcher despite his skills and just because he is black. However, if I remember correctly the game doesn't push the commentary on unfair treatment of black people any further, so it's woke without following a woke agenda.

  • @greekifreekifan870
    @greekifreekifan870 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Yo, why is Batman strapped?

  • @erikzelada5578
    @erikzelada5578 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Mentis, can you criticize the kavernavle?

    • @MentisWave
      @MentisWave  2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Seems like a typical le-reddit woketoid who misses the point in most of his "arguments".

    • @hoominbeeing
      @hoominbeeing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@MentisWave so can u do it, pwetty pwease? 🥺

    • @erikzelada5578
      @erikzelada5578 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MentisWave thanks

    • @lufsolitaire5351
      @lufsolitaire5351 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Really no point in refuting someone who likens anyone who is interested in ww2 Germany as potential or actual Nazi’s. I’d drop a link to the two videos I am referencing to avoid strawmanning him but YT automatically deletes any post with links. Would look at his video’s criticizing BF V’s German story and also about Erwin Rommel and the Clean Wehrmacht myth. With the latter he isn’t really all that wrong and I don’t disagree with the truth that German generals got to write the history of the war from a German perspective and it remained unquestioned until recently.
      But this is also the socialist/communist blind spot of actually doing good work on disproving the myths of fascism but cannot do it to their own ideology. They’ll do all the proper work of citing sources and using data when dismantling the Nazi’s but will call that same data for the Soviet Union/Maoist China propaganda.
      Also bro lost it over the moon man 4Chan videos and said anyone who liked them are all white supremicists.

  • @ChefJollyRoger
    @ChefJollyRoger 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The aourced video about gatekeeping is no longer working. Can you post another source?

    • @Nocturnal_Mee
      @Nocturnal_Mee 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Upper Echelon has a video about it. I think it’s called Gatekeeping in Gaming is Natural, or something similar

  • @isayasbashiri5371
    @isayasbashiri5371 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mentis, you remind of TFM if he had a twin brother

  • @danielhuelsman76
    @danielhuelsman76 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can someone please find the video where Literature Devil defines wokeness?

  • @richardruth9048
    @richardruth9048 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great content here.

  • @Magikarp-4ever
    @Magikarp-4ever 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey bro the gatekeeping video was taken down can you redirect I need to know what you was talking bout

    • @Nocturnal_Mee
      @Nocturnal_Mee 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There’s a video by Upper Echelon called Gatekeeping in Gaming is Natural (or something along those lines). He always does a pretty good job explaining things

  • @samuel010898
    @samuel010898 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I pretty much take what you say as gospel at this point, but that bit about gentrification was… off. It’s really weird to justify gentrification by saying it shakes out for everyone eventually. The problem with gentrification is that it has disastrous consequences for individuals that they will never recover from. I live in one of the fastest growing cities in the country, and it’s very common for property values to rise simply because your neighbor tore down his house and built a gaudy new one. and I don’t care if you’re black, white, or neon green, nobody wants to have to pay taxes on a crappy little crack house that’s increased in worth by a million dollars on the merit of the dirt it sits on, but you can’t sell it at the tax value because without improvements to the community, the actual amount someone would buy it for hardly increases. The nice strip malls don’t get built until the poors are done being run out, often after they’ve been bled dry trying to hold onto an ancestral home.

  • @Devin_Stromgren
    @Devin_Stromgren 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Woke" is an entire culture. It's rather difficult to give a quick definition to an entire culture.

  • @thefishernextdoor7222
    @thefishernextdoor7222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    First

  • @roboquebrado5360
    @roboquebrado5360 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    woke is when left propaganda