@@Venomousnack On the right side of the comment, when you hover over it with the mouse, or in the same place in the app, there are three dots. With those, you can edit your posted comments.
@@hansalanson3497 true, but maybe you could conjure a daedra and then ask them to take you into oblivion? Like that one college quest where the daedra gets you a special stone
@@CoRLex-jh5vx you would have to be an insanely powerful conjurer capable of summoning a bound dremora that will take you to dagon's oblivion. Think about the fact that there are only (potentially) 3 notable conjurers on nirn. Falion, TLDB, and Phinis. Taking this in to fact shows how rare skilled conjurers are
Jarl Raven-Crone is my favourite cause if you're thane of Morthal or atleast helped a lot of people in town before before doing the quest on Thalmor Embassy, during the quest itself you can ask her to make a "Scene" and her response is hilarious to me "An old woman can get away with anything"
Obsidian: “But at this rate New Vegas is only going to have half the content originally planned!” Bethesda: *”CUT IT NOW!”* Fallout Community: “Fallout New Vegas was the best RPG in the entire Fallout series.” Bethesda: (Darth Vader Noooo.mp3)
Even though they re-realesed skyrim like four times, proving they could've taken the time to finish quests and whatever else during that time knowing they were planning on selling it again and again? 😂 But to be honest I'm very curious about the great collapse of winterhold, anyone think we'll find out at some point, hopefully not having to pay a dumbass price for the answer lol
I like the theory that Falion is primarily connected to Vaermina. Among other things, it explains the children's nightmares and could explain why he's spoken with Dwemer, as we've seen that the Dreamstride is capable of transporting people to the past. But as for the entity he addresses in the ritual, I personally believe it's Azura. The ritual takes place at dawn, the quest is called "Rising at Dawn," and Falion states "as the sun ends the night, end the darkness of this soul." Azura is one of the more benevolent daedra and specializes in change and transition, so it wouldn't surprise me if she has a hand in this ritual.
Dreamstride from what we seen, you experience the life of someone else. Not necessarily encountering or conversations with others, but experiencing their own life
Ayo honestly, they've had the fuckin time and revenue to pay the workers to finish the quest lines and up the graphics quality. Just imagine the amount of lore in the game if they didn't cut shit due to trying to meet deadlines
Before Bethesda releases elder scrolls six they need to hand it over to the top modders community so they can fix all the Bethesda mistakes/bugs/ broken quest/followers not leveling up and all missed opportunities
The Dwemer he's supposedly met in his travels is probably Yagrum Bagarn a Dwemer you could meet in Morrowind, who was traveling in Oblivion during the events of Red Mountain and apparently missed out on whatever happened to the rest of his people. Just pointing this out because I remember in another video you seemed skeptical about someone else meeting a Dwemer in Oblivion.
Didn’t he return to nirn? As he did meet with the Nerevarine. Usually once nirnbound travelling to Oblivion is difficult. Then again I’m sure he could do the conjuration magic easily he’s a Dwemer.
Meeting Yagrum makes more sense in Oblivion as well considering it's only 20 years after Morrowind, where as Skyrim is a new era entirely. Although the Dwemere disapeared in 1E so Yagrum is already thousands of years old, I'm sure he could live the extra hundred years as long as Divayth was alive as well and keeping Yagrum healthy (as healthy as one with Corpus can be).
8:50 “I can tell a vampire from a man.” Proceeds to let a house burn down and people die before pointing out alva’s existence..... nvm WHILE STILL ignoring her existence
What about the vampire den? I thought part of the reason Falion settled in Morthal was to protect the citizens from the influence of the vampire dwelling there. I forgot the vampire's name but I'm pretty sure Falion knows he's there and knows that his thralls/underlings/whatever are toying with the towns folk.
Well I think Nate use to work on the CarlinBros channel (I think that's what the channel is called) where they would dive into theories and mysteries talked about in Disney and Pixar movies. Idk if he's still making videos on that channel or if he left but none the less, Nate is a great detective
Not to be repetitive but because Nathaniel has a) the ability to pronounce unpronuncable Dwemer words and b) inexhaustible sources of Skyrim videos and uncharted depths of hidden knowledge of Skyrim. I suspect he is one of the Dwemer, who achieved Chim and ascended to this realm when he realized Tamriel was just a dream like a fantasy genre videogame is to us. Yeah, or nay?
@@Crovax The Daedra are literally named because they are not the ancestors of the beings on Nirn, while the Aedra are named because they ARE the ancestors of the beings on Nirn. Also "Call upon Oblivion realms." What in Oblivion would he call to other than the Daedric Princes (or those IdealMasters) The scamps or those dinosaur-like creatures? Lol
Technically Daedra, while not ancestors, are related to mortals because they were brought into being by Anu and Padomai-something both created soul aspects which, in turn, created other daedra and those created THEIR aspects of their souls, which is Lorkhan and Auri-el / Akatosh / Alkosh. Lorkhan used most of the divine's power to create Nirn, coincidentally creating some other gods in the process. Not DIRECT ancestors, but maybe fifth cousin twice removed.
A further, much later note, if you convince Serana to cure her vampirism, she'll go to Falion without saying anything along the lines of needing to find someone who knows how to cure vampirism and she even speaks about him as if he's a familiar figure. And wasn't Serana trapped in a tomb for more than a hundred years?
@@АлпамысРустембекyeah. We don't know how old she truly is, or how long she was a vampire before she was sealed, but I think she was sealed sometime between the early part of the First Era and the end of the Second Era. It's not very precise, but it's basically what we've got based on the lore of the games, and some vague and contradictory statements.
Nate, I absolutely love how passionate you are about Skyrim. We can hear it so clearly in these investigation videos. It makes it feel all the more real. You get your audience wrapped up in the story. Bravo.
My hope to. I also hope the game engine can handle more then 20 npcs fighting each other unlike Skyrim. Hard to have a civil war when it's just a bunch of skirmishes.
@@planexshifter I wish you were wrong, but given how the Fallout series has been going... I'm going to be very suspicious of the Elder Scrolls before I decide whether to buy it.
No wonder Morthal associated stories felt incomplete to me, I felt that I missed some quest triggers at first. It's disappointing that Skyrim wasn't a fleshed-out experience, not like past games that are complete experiences.
I always loved this quest, a creepy quest in a creepy place involving creepy people, which really stuck with me because the way it ended for me was walking into Falion’s line of sight, no exchange of words, he just looked at me and the quest ended
tbh You meet a dwemer who claims to have been in another plane when the rest of them disappeared while playing Morrowind. so his claim to have met a dwemer could be true. as a matter of fact, it was probably the same one.
@@manspider1833 I mean, corprus makes its victims immortal and Divayth Fyr found a cure that negated all negative side effects, curing all symptoms, giving you immortality, resistance to disease, etc. So it's entirely possible that it could be him.
If it's Yagrum Bagarn, he definitely has corprus and would be immortal, but he's so maimed by the disease that he uses a Dwemer spider as his lower half. I don't see him wandering the planes of Oblivion anymore!
Falion's cut content has ALWAYS intrigued me the most, I have been bugged by this for YEARS, literally since 2013, and I'm super excited to watch this video
You can really see that this man loves Skyrim. As I love hearing how you can hear his voice get higher when he talks about something unique or undiscovered, and I smile at it. Love ya Nate. Always have always will.
I actually don’t think the Dragon Priest’s were all that into necromancy. After all, the Dragons largely regarded necromancy as taboo much like the humanoid races. That’s what made Durnehviir unique amongst the Dragons: his extensive use of necromancy to gain power and dominance over them. It wouldn’t make much sense for the Dragon Priests to so heavily delve into magics that the dragons themselves found distasteful. I also think that Morthal’s secrets are connected to the dragons, but specifically Durnehviir. Hjaalmarch may well have been his domain, and Kjenstag Ruins his seat of power.
@@ThatGuyJunoOfficial or they weren’t given the time or money needed for development developers are just employees they’re told what to do by higher ups Dude they are not responsible for how unfinished some for the things in the game are
There’s Jarl Ravencrone who can see into the future as a physic, Falion is rumored to practice the dark arts. And a formiddible green ogre named Shrek makes his home deep in the swamp, and anyone who gets to close hears a scream saying, “WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN MY SWAMP!?!”
I like to think Keinstaag was the research lab of necromancy for the dragons, a particular form of mummification involved submerging the corpse under some swamp stuff, and I like to imagine bog mummies were the proto draugrs. since the lab was already developed their and it was so close to labyrinthian they just kept the shop open their.
Don’t forget the ice aspect. We have necromancy and frost magic here. The question is, what is undead and frozen at the same time? For me there are two things that come to mind. One is stahlrim whitch was used to cover the ancient Nord dead, the other are the wispmothers who look like a frozen ghost.
@@yourfriendlyneighbourhoodl6206 Wisp mother's aren't Atronachs, and neither are Ice Wraiths. Ice Wraiths even crumble into dust as only completely unnatural beings do.
I just added nice mod from enhanced landscapes that puts giant mushrooms that fit really well in the swamp and one mod that adds bogmort creatures really fit in the swamp.Also fog mod that makes it more creepy.
Swamps are my favourite biome! When I first found the swamps I was super excited and everything was spooky and fun, until I figured out it was basically an empty husk. Igrod is super cool tho, fav jarl right there.
My home life is a living hell, people around me seem to be dedicated to tearing each other apart. It’s a small escape but thanks to your videos Nate I can think of something else for a little while. And an extra long investigation video at that! I understand these take a lot more time to research but it’s some of your best stuff.
Hey. Im sorry to hear that you are going through stuff. But whatever you are going through will hopefully get better. But just keep your head up and dont give up. Stay strong. If you are feeling su!c!dal then know that life gets better and it is worth living. You gotta see what the future has for you.
I knowa - itsa thinga he doesa - if he-ah weren't so-ah cute-ah, I would wantah to smacka hima acrossa the face-ah. (but I will let it slide since he is sexy... well, except for that beard he seems to currently enjoy rocking - beards are for communists)
A thought on all of this happening in a swamp: What if the significance of the area lies in all of the living plants and animals, as well as the decomposing dead ones. The soul energy in the area would theoretically be greater than in some other areas of Skyrim because of the density of organic material. Easy access to many souls for necromancy, and would be prone to magical resonance and strange happenings. I know the game doesn't portray this area as full of life, but swamps are dense with it
I was just imagine, if Kjenstag ruins are so might and mystery powerful, and it may have something to be with the dragon cult and necromancy... what IF it may be the place where Durnehviir, the lich dragon managed to create his philactery and struck the deal with the Ideal Masters, and the dread force that emanates from the ruins is infact the Dead Dragon's soul, powered by the Ideal Masters? They tricked him, but also were obliged to enhance his power as promissed, just don't tell him exactly which part of him would gain the power.
Theory: What if this mysterious ritual was actually the same reason why the Draugr and Dragon Priests are the way they are in Skyrim. I remember watching a video about this special unknown energy or magic that Draugr use to live, that even though they are classified as undead, they were still alive when the process happened. And that they (according to the video) wake up in order to clean the crypts and then transfer their "life energy" to the Deathlords and Dragon Priests and various leaders of said crypts, only to go back to sleep again as a way of recharging this seemingly unlimited source of energy. Similar to how Morthals "powerful" energy for necromancy is portrayed.
My top 3 guesses for who Falion is calling upon in the ritual to cure you of vampirism are Meridia, Azura, and the Ideal Masters. The Ideal Masters obviously because of their association to Conjuration and soul gems. However, while they're associated with souls, those souls are... well, dead. Not sure if they'd be able to actually bring someone back to life. Meridia would make sense since she's the daedric prince of life and is known as the "Lady of Infinite Energies." Obviously, with life as her domain, it would make sense for her to be involved in the "return" of life to a mortal who became undead. Plus, her hatred of undead would probably mean that an undead returning to its natural, uncorrupted state would make her very happy. Azura would also make a lot of sense because of the phrasing of the ritual speaks of transitions, which Azura is associated with. She is connected to soul gems and Conjuration through her artifact, Azura's Star. She also is often in conflict with undead. Furthermore, the quest to rid yourself of vampirism is called "Rising at Dawn," and Azura is the daedric prince of dawn and dusk.
Kinda like your point with Azura, though she really hates the idea of the Blackstar, of course that is because of the corruption of her artifact and doesn't necessarily inform her opinion on use of souls. I would like to think Meridia is a good candidate, specifically for cleansing the Dragonborn, as she is interested in you as her champion and helps ward off the awful of her, ever accepting your help as a vampire.
@@insaincaldo Depending on where you are in your playthrough, you may be Meridia's champion as well. And if you get cured after freeing Serana's mother, the Ideal Masters probably won't want to help you out - especially if you keep summoning their pet dragon out of their reach/control. But yeah, offering the soul to whatever Daedra answers is as good of a guess as any. And if you're the champion of Meridia or Azura, it's most likely going to be one of them that answers first as they have a vested interest in you. It's probably not Molag Bal tho. I think we can safely rule him out. lol
@@SadisticSenpai61 Yeah, the only way Bal would cure you, is if he would want the pleasure of stuffing you with the gift himself. Or apparently if he has a need to punish presumed family members.
She's the best person to ask to make a distraction at the Embassy party. Has the self-knowledge that old ladies can get away with stuff that a younger person couldn't, especially if they have a reputation for being a bit batty to begin with. A real sport.
If I had to guess, it's likely a play on a reconstructed Old Norse name, "Idgríðr"-meaning something like "restless protector," or "wise woman of mercy." Then of course the Ravencrone bit just comes from her being essentially an old Witch (crone), and ravens being seen in Old Norse culture as messengers and harbingers of wisdom. Putting it all together, we've got something to the effect of "merciful wise old witch."
My theory is that the ruins were Durnehviir's base of operations when he was studying his own necromancy and eventually served as his portal to the Soul Cairn prior to his imprisonment.
@@rcbecker1 it makes sense more after I played another few run throughs of the Dawnguard Quest line. After opening Valerica's portal, the dragonborn has their live essence sucked out from the soul cairn until either Serena turns them into a vampire or soul traps them. So it stands to reason that a big enough portal left open could suck the life out of the surrounding land. A portal big enough to transport a dragon.
I would love to invite Fallion and Valerica to a debate and lecture on Conjuration and the realms of Oblivion. I think those two alone could advance the understanding of Magicka as we know it
@@emlynselene1096 never mind that the guy expands a ten minute concept in to hours. CamelWorks did one on the Bug Jars and it took him two hours or so to say "yeah, the developer's don't remember so it was probably nothing".
Manslayer's videos are more lorefriendly than any of the channels you listed, while they point out interesting stuff don't take any lore they talk about at face value because it's off the mark most the time. Would like to see a crossover tho, together they could find the mother of all secrets in game
Interesting video, I appreciate the time spent producing this one. The ending is a little unsatisfying, being a massive tease about what actually happened, but that seems to be a Bethesda trademark I suppose. On another note, do you suppose that Potema may have potentially used Kjenstag ruins and the massive wealth of Necromantic energy in Morthal to enhance her own powers when she raised her daedric and undead legions during The War of the Red Diamond? Being one of Skyrim's most famous necromancers I have a hard time believing she wouldn't notice it basically sitting on her doorstep.
Problem is, it's in Hjaalmarch and Potema was jarl of Haafingar. She'd be encroaching on another jarl's territory, which would invite conflict. ...Then again, she was a necromancer; boundaries obviously meant little to her to begin with. So maybe you're onto something!
Yeah I agree, you definitely might be on to something. Potema wouldn't just let that slide. In any case, Potema was involved with vampires too AND in Morthal we see that there was a brood forming in Movarth's lair! Maybe the two vampire groups were working on a bigger plot - to enthrall all of Morthal and prepare for Potema's return to the Kjenstag ruins!!!🤷♂️ It could have been the major take over plot of hers!
Found this channel this week and am absolutely amazed at the amount of good content this man can still extract out of a game that's damn near a decade old and has had more rereleases than most franchises have had actual games.
Voiced character: *pronounces character name in video* Nate a few minutes earlier: *offers two different wrong pronounciations, says he doesn't know* Not taking away from the video, it's very great and fascinating, but it's a bit funny, Nate.
From a story writing perceptive, I personally really like the idea of some evil ritual going so terribly wrong that its disastrous consequences echo thought time for thousands of years.
I always felt like there was something wrong with the area and he was trying to keep it away with his near-legendary conjuration skills and knowledge. Some people do say TES and FO take place in the same Universe too, so that might be the origin of the Dunwhich monster.
I'm currently based in the DIY Manor in the Hjaalmarch(I used the True Alternate Start: Sellsword mod), so this really helps me out. Thanks guys! Place reminds me so much of Barovia, i half expected a Strahd poxy to show up(though i suppose the Vampire hunting quest could technically count).....
I just hit 13:38 and I’m wondering if maybe he’s a Psijic member. Or rather, a potential recruit. What we see in ESO is that the Psijic order does recruit people sometimes, and as skilled as he claims to be, and as knowledgeable as we see him, he’s got to be a good candidate.
well interesting but i doubt that he is a member of psijic order they only show up once in awhile and he said he wanted to protect the village and if so we probably wouldn’t of been able to follow hom they can freeze time/space
I just wanted to say, Nate you are pretty awesome and I'm glad you are on TH-cam to explain Skyrim and other games and I actually think I wouldn't have known any info on these topics. Thank You Nate.
One little correction: Falion calls upon "those who are not our ancestors" when performing the ritual. That's a literal translation of "daedra". So it can't be the Ideal Masters he's calling upon, because they're their own type of entities. (Personal theory: maybe he's working with Meridia? She would probably be glad to help Falion undo Molag Bal's work, given her long-standing hatred for him.)
You said there’s something strange in the neighborhood and the ghost busters theme started playing in my head. Haven’t watched any of those movies in years
If you use *Cutting room floor* mod then *Laid to rest* quest has additional objective - Return Helgi's doll to her father (optional) and Alva's house is called Piquine's house or Piquine's old house. There are new NPC's in the town too
[Opening cutscene] Ralof: Hey, you, you're finally awake. You were trying to cross the border, right? Walked right into that imperial ambush, same as us, and that thief over there. Lokir: Damn you Stormcloaks. Skyrim was fine until you came along. Empire was nice and lazy. If they had'nt been looking for you, I could've stolen that horse and be halfway to Hammerfell. You there. You and me - we shouldn't be here. It's these Stormcloaks the Empire wants. Ralof: We're all brothers and sisters in binds now, thief Imperial Soldier: Shut up back there! Lokir: And what's wrong with him, huh? Ralof: Watch your tongue. You're speaking to Ulfric Stormcloak, the true High King. Lokir: Ulfric? The Jarl of Windhelm? You're the leader of the rebellion. But if they've captured captured you....Oh gods, where are they taking us? Ralof: I don't know where we're going, but Sovngarde awaits. Lokir: No, this can't be happening. This isn't happening. Ralof: Hey, what village are you from horse thief? Lokir: Why do you care? Ralof: A Nord's last thoughts should be of home. Lokir: Rorikstead. I'm...I'm from Rorikstead. Imperial Soldier: General Tullius, sir! The headsman is waiting! Tullius: Good. Let's get this over with. Lokir: Shor, Mara, Dibella, Kynareth, Akatosh. Divines, please help me. Ralof: Look at him, General Tullius the Military Governor. And it looks like the Thalmor are with him. Damn elves. I bet they had something to do with this. This is Helgen. I used to be sweet on a girl here. Wonder if Vilod is still making that mead with juniper berries mixed in. Funny, when I was a boy, Imperial walls and towers used to make me feel so safe. Haming: Who are they, daddy? Where are they going? Torolf: You need to go inside, little cub. Haming: Why? I want to watch the soldiers. Torolf: Inside the house. Now. Imperial Soldier: Whoa! Imperial Captain: Get these prisoners out of the carts. Move it! Lokir: Why are we stopping? Ralof: Why do you think? End of the line. Let's go. Shouldn't keep the guards waiting for us. Lokir: No! Wait! We're not rebels! Ralof: Face you're death with some courage, thief. Lokir: You've got to tell them! We weren't with you! This is a mistake! Imperial Soldier: Step towards the block when we call your name. One at a time. Ralof: Empire loves their damn lists. Hadvar: Ulfric Stormcloak. Jarl of Windhelm. Ralof: It has been an honor, Jarl Ulfric! Hadvar: Ralof of Riverwood. Lokir of Rorikstead. Lokir: No, I'm not a rebel. You can't do this! Imperial Captain: Halt! Lokir: You're not gonna kill me! Imperial Captain: Archers! Anyone else feel like running? Hadvar: Wait. You there, step forward. Who are you? You've picked a bad time to come to Skyrim, kinsman. Captain. What should we do? He's not on the list. Imperial Captain: Forget the list. He goes to the block. Hadvar: By your orders, Captain. I'm sorry. At least you'll get to die here, in your homeland. Follow the Captain, prisoner. Tullius: Ulfric Stormcloak. Some here in Helgen call you a hero. But a hero doesn't use a power like the Voice to murder his king and usurp his throne. Jarl Ulfric Stormcloak: (muffled grunts) Tullius: You started this war, plunged Skyrim into chaos, and now the Empire is going to put you down, and restore the peace. Hadvar: What was that? Tullius: It's nothing. Carry on Imperial Captain: Yes, General Tullius. Give them their last rites. Priest of Arkay: As we commend your souls to Atherius, blessings of the Eight Divines upon you, for you are the salt and earth of Nirn, our beloved... Stormcloak Soldier: For the love of Talos, shut up and let's get this over with. Priest of Arkay: As you wish Stormcloak Soldier: Come on, I haven't got all morning. My ancestors are smiling at me, Imperials. Can you say the same? Stormcloak Soldier: You Imperial bastards! Vilod: Justice! Ingrid: Death to the Stormcloaks Ralof: As fearless in death as he was in life. Imperial: Next, the Nord in the rags! Hadvar: There it is again. Did you hear that? Imperial Captian: I said, next prisoner! Hadvar: To the block, prisoner. Nice and easy. Tullius: What in Oblivion is that! Imperial Captain: Sentries! What do you see? Imperial Soldier: It's in the clouds! Stormcloak Solldier: Dragon! Tullius: Don't just stand there! Kill that thing! Imperial Soldier: What in the Eight Divines is this thing? Ralof: Hey , kinsman. Get up! Come on, the gods won't give us another chance!
Man, I really admire your work here. I'm a huge fan of Skyrim, and you're my favorite Skyrim youtuber. Just know that your videos are being watched here, in Brasil, by a guy that really admires the way you explain and pass knowledge about this (as we all know) huge game. Really, thanks Nate.
Skyrim probably has some of my favorite lore, in terms of locations in Elder Scrolls. Always happy to see additions to it -as well as the others, thanks to ESO.
@@shadysam7161 yes and a name is intrinsically tied to the Dialect it comes from, so saying it with the accent of a different dialect is incorrect when referring to that person - yes it might be pronounced differently when another person from some other region has the same name in text form, but it is a sign of polite respect to pronounce a persons name the way their dialect does
"So let me get this straight. You just sent me out to do all this shit. You _know_ what's causing this mayhem. Yet you won't tell me. Okay." **sword slides from scabbard**
This has been one of my favorite videos that you've made, thank you for all your time you put into your content. It's so enjoyable and makes my day better.
"As the sun ends the night" This is technically called "dawn". There's a daedric artifact you can get called "Dawnbreaker". The daedra most likely to cooperate in ending someone's vampirism is clearly Meridia.
I got lucky and got that super early but I had to use a mod to actually make it awesome because it's pretty lame vanilla. I forget the mod name but it makes the dawnbreaker actually glow and shine like it's got the power of the sun.
Meridia is known to absolutely despise the undead, and would probably rather see you dead than cured to be honest. Especially since i don't think she even has that power, as far as i know there is no mention of her interacting with vampires ever. And i find it hard to believe she would want somebodies soul in a black soul gem. It's most likely Molag Bal, he's both the creator of vampirism and was the one who cured it in Morrowind. He would definitely jump on the chance to own more souls and is even thought to be the creator of the first soul gems.
@@ZingoBananaa According to the lore, Vaermina is the only Daedric Prince known to possess the knowledge of curing vampirism. So, whether or not even he knows it, Falion most likely strikes the deal with Vaermina.
I want a Story driven Spin-off in which you play as Falion. He is basically a main protagonist already and, to be honest, the most interesting NPC in Skyrim.
oh my god i binged this channel like a year or so ago and i swear you had like?? 50k subs??? oh my god??? unless i was just so unaware but good god good for you man. you deserve it and i love that you haven’t changed a bit despite the huge fanbase! unless it was 500k idk but i SWEAR you didn’t have this many
My personal theory about Falion was that he was a member of the mythic dawn cult who has managed to survive using life extending magic. That would explain his skill with conjuration magic, his knowledge of oblivion, and all the other weird stuff he knows.
I always was quite unsure wherever I did see ghosts moving around in the swamp or if it was my imagination. Usually I would see just some puffs of smoke going around a corner of some ruins, or a blue flash moving past me, but it happened so rarely that I never really investigated it further.
My guess with Falion's questline is that based on how he says he wants to help Morthal "rest in peace" his goal is probably to put down all the restless spirits and permanently seal or destroy the source of necromantic power. I bet the twist at the end of the quest would have been that the reason Idgrod stops him from investigating is because her ability doesn't actually come from the divines, but actually comes from the spirits of the dead and if he succeeds she would lose her necromancy fueled visions.
I'd like to think that it's Vaermina who Falion calls upon. She's the only other person in the entire ES universe who knows how to cure vampirism. I believe you even stated before that if Molag Bal wants to cure someone of vampirism, he has to go through Vaermina(kinda weird how Bal is the god of vampirism, yet he can't cure it). Perhaps Falion went to the Vaermina's realm and personally learned how to cure vampirism from her. As for the ruins, I do think the dragon cult is the most likely answer. As you stated, they were incredibly obsessed with necromancy. Not only this, the ghost is wearing ancient nordic armor, and his grave is in Hjaalmarch, indicating the ancient nords were active here. Another great video, keep up the good work!
You need to do one on the greatest mystery in skyrim. Why do children want to approach me in full dedric amour to play tag?
So true!
Ahh you download that mod
@@GlennSkywalker2305 what mod
@@GlennSkywalker2305 they will randomly do it
@@Venomousnack On the right side of the comment, when you hover over it with the mouse, or in the same place in the app, there are three dots. With those, you can edit your posted comments.
How can they accuse him of sacrificing children ? They can't be killed lol.
Seriously! Just adopt all of the orphans in Skyrim, give them all wooden swords and sic 'em on Alduin.
@@Vulpine407 either use the fortify restoration glitch, or give them daedric/dragonbone daggers instead.
Except for that one that died in Falkreath before you arrive there
Falion is a modder confirmed.
"They can't be killed"
RSchildren Overhaul: Hold my mead
I love how having met Daedras in a plane of Oblivion is way less of a shock than having spoke to a Dwemer.
If you have the Conjure Daedra spell, anyone can meet them.
Farengar has met daedra.
@@CoRLex-jh5vx *in a plane of Oblivion
Conjuring a Daedra into Nirn and meeting one in Oblivion are not the same
@@hansalanson3497 true, but maybe you could conjure a daedra and then ask them to take you into oblivion? Like that one college quest where the daedra gets you a special stone
@@CoRLex-jh5vx you would have to be an insanely powerful conjurer capable of summoning a bound dremora that will take you to dagon's oblivion. Think about the fact that there are only (potentially) 3 notable conjurers on nirn. Falion, TLDB, and Phinis. Taking this in to fact shows how rare skilled conjurers are
See es oblivion lol
Jarl Raven-Crone is my favourite cause if you're thane of Morthal or atleast helped a lot of people in town before before doing the quest on Thalmor Embassy, during the quest itself you can ask her to make a "Scene" and her response is hilarious to me "An old woman can get away with anything"
Count me in on that. Jarl Igrod is self-aware and smart. And has a sense of fun.
never knew this
She's a badass
She’s my girl! Favorite jarl by far. I love her so much. Her scene at the embassy was also hilarious.
Jarl Idgrod is my bestie, she's a G
M’aiq knows all the secrets of the swamp, but sadly, he cannot tell. Sometimes it is better M’aiq doesn’t say.
M’aiq The Liar i paralysed you for -1096826834 minutes how tf you talking
@@STARDUST-px8hf M'aiq is a god and cannot be paralyzed.
M'aiq was once soul trapped, wasn't very pleasent.
Oh hi M’aiq we meet again of the comments section
OMG MAI'Q THE LIAR, UR MY FAVORITE CELEBRITY
Game: *has content*
Bethesda: CUT IT CUT IT ALLLLL
Obsidian: “But at this rate New Vegas is only going to have half the content originally planned!”
Bethesda: *”CUT IT NOW!”*
Fallout Community: “Fallout New Vegas was the best RPG in the entire Fallout series.”
Bethesda: (Darth Vader Noooo.mp3)
Go install legacy of the dragonborn and everything that it can work with and have a good time.
Robert Smalls but turn out, it actually suck
If only it was PC-exclusive...
yeah but this why cutting room floor is great adds lot of removed content and modder still updating it even these days pretty awesome
What are you doing in my swamp?
I was looking at the comment above you and it said hey swamp it's swamp here
Or something along those lines
I laughed way harder than I should have lass
Edit for ! After the ?
No. But imagine there was an house in the middle of the swamp and an man comes out of the house an said get out of my swamp lol
I feel like we got about 30% of what was planned for Skyrim that they never decided to finish despite never letting Skyrim die
TES V: Skyrim uncuted edition for PS5.
@@charlesafonso5567 Then it'll be released for PC, etc for 185 dollars and 99 cents. lol
Well hopefully they finished of this stuff for the PS5 Version of Skyrim
Even though they re-realesed skyrim like four times, proving they could've taken the time to finish quests and whatever else during that time knowing they were planning on selling it again and again? 😂 But to be honest I'm very curious about the great collapse of winterhold, anyone think we'll find out at some point, hopefully not having to pay a dumbass price for the answer lol
Ashley Steel maybe we get more DLCs. And more answers.
I like the theory that Falion is primarily connected to Vaermina. Among other things, it explains the children's nightmares and could explain why he's spoken with Dwemer, as we've seen that the Dreamstride is capable of transporting people to the past. But as for the entity he addresses in the ritual, I personally believe it's Azura. The ritual takes place at dawn, the quest is called "Rising at Dawn," and Falion states "as the sun ends the night, end the darkness of this soul." Azura is one of the more benevolent daedra and specializes in change and transition, so it wouldn't surprise me if she has a hand in this ritual.
Dreamstride from what we seen, you experience the life of someone else. Not necessarily encountering or conversations with others, but experiencing their own life
Cannot be Azura.
He explicitly states "who are not our ancestors."
Azura is.
Don't forget Azura's quest in Oblivion is to "cure" some of her followers of vampirism.
petition to have Bethesda release Skyrim: Uncut
Ayo honestly, they've had the fuckin time and revenue to pay the workers to finish the quest lines and up the graphics quality. Just imagine the amount of lore in the game if they didn't cut shit due to trying to meet deadlines
And make gorm a part of maphala's quest
I'd rather them fix all the glitches for console players.
@@ZombieAndroid they need to fix their engine, but thats not gonna happen
Before Bethesda releases elder scrolls six they need to hand it over to the top modders community so they can fix all the Bethesda mistakes/bugs/ broken quest/followers not leveling up and all missed opportunities
God I wish they fleshed out this hold more in Skyrim.
'The Marshlands' by tesfiend is a good mod for the area.
Makes the swamps really spooky, as they always should have been. : )
@@Hare_deLune Yeah, Morthal's swamps were never "spooky" to me. "Don't go out at night!" Bud, nothing there poses a threat to the Dragonborn.
I think you meant Gods
Don't worry the next elder scrolls will be a 76. :p (my deepest worrie) they have proven to be unreliable at best.
Oof, that would have taken effort
The Dwemer he's supposedly met in his travels is probably Yagrum Bagarn a Dwemer you could meet in Morrowind, who was traveling in Oblivion during the events of Red Mountain and apparently missed out on whatever happened to the rest of his people.
Just pointing this out because I remember in another video you seemed skeptical about someone else meeting a Dwemer in Oblivion.
OH I forgot about him. Didn't he have corpus?
Didn’t he return to nirn? As he did meet with the Nerevarine. Usually once nirnbound travelling to Oblivion is difficult. Then again I’m sure he could do the conjuration magic easily he’s a Dwemer.
I think this is most people's first thought
As time is known to flow differently in Oblivion than in Nirn it makes sense they might've met.
Meeting Yagrum makes more sense in Oblivion as well considering it's only 20 years after Morrowind, where as Skyrim is a new era entirely. Although the Dwemere disapeared in 1E so Yagrum is already thousands of years old, I'm sure he could live the extra hundred years as long as Divayth was alive as well and keeping Yagrum healthy (as healthy as one with Corpus can be).
8:50 “I can tell a vampire from a man.” Proceeds to let a house burn down and people die before pointing out alva’s existence..... nvm WHILE STILL ignoring her existence
ig he jus ain't a snitch😂
Maybe women confuse him...
Well, you know... "But no living man am I! You look upon a woman." 😁
Or he is a guy that doesnt tell stuff unless asked. Since they never asked him he didnt tell.
@@Arvel_The_Swit You think maybe he tried to tell them, but they didn't believe him cause they think hes a witch?
What about the vampire den? I thought part of the reason Falion settled in Morthal was to protect the citizens from the influence of the vampire dwelling there. I forgot the vampire's name but I'm pretty sure Falion knows he's there and knows that his thralls/underlings/whatever are toying with the towns folk.
Yeh, Movarth, the vampire. That's what I assumed as well.
Movarth is the dude that was the Vampire Slayer in Immortal Blood. He was turned by a Cyrodillic Vampire. Movarth would have loved the Dawnguard...
The vampire is the boss.
@@ventexovakon2178 actually?
@@JustHaveFunVideos Yeah.
"some jarls in this land are clearly corrupt or otherwise just too blatantly incompetent to do their job" COUGH COUGH Siddgier of Falkreath
Riften is ran by a mob boss effectively. Hard to top that for corruption I'd say.
The Jarl of Dawnstar coming in to take the crown for most incompetent and useless hold leader.
@@Tetsuza_3 Oh, but he has an excuse - he's verging into senility. Has one thought in his head and can't think of anything else.
elisif is the most incompetent
@@pedigreeann yeah I changed his in game name to Joe Biden because of that
He calls out to "Those who are not our ancestors" - isn't that almost a direct translation of the meaning of the term "Daedra"?
Maybe his great grandma was a daedra
yes indeed
No, he was actually referring to his ex-girlfriend's distant non-biological great great uncle Ben.
@@theimmortalmadness8010 Ben Kenobi? You wouldn't happen to mean Obi Wan Kenobi? RIP peter parker
Yeah he’s trading a soul to a Daedra as payment or because the entity requires some juice to grant life back to a vampire
Nate has evolved from a standard toptenner to The Detective.
"What your 'EpicNate' is evolving *insert evolution theme and animation* Your 'EpicNate' evolved into 'DetectiveNate'!"
Well I think Nate use to work on the CarlinBros channel (I think that's what the channel is called) where they would dive into theories and mysteries talked about in Disney and Pixar movies. Idk if he's still making videos on that channel or if he left but none the less, Nate is a great detective
*Nate is evolving! Nate is now, Ultra Nate*
Not to be repetitive but because Nathaniel has a) the ability to pronounce unpronuncable Dwemer words and b) inexhaustible sources of Skyrim videos and uncharted depths of hidden knowledge of Skyrim.
I suspect he is one of the Dwemer, who achieved Chim and ascended to this realm when he realized Tamriel was just a dream like a fantasy genre videogame is to us. Yeah, or nay?
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“Those who are not our ancestors” refers to the daedra
Or the Akaviri, or the Falmer
@@Crovax No, Daedra directly translates to "Not our ancestors"
@@Crovax The Daedra are literally named because they are not the ancestors of the beings on Nirn, while the Aedra are named because they ARE the ancestors of the beings on Nirn.
Also "Call upon Oblivion realms." What in Oblivion would he call to other than the Daedric Princes (or those IdealMasters) The scamps or those dinosaur-like creatures? Lol
Technically Daedra, while not ancestors, are related to mortals because they were brought into being by Anu and Padomai-something both created soul aspects which, in turn, created other daedra and those created THEIR aspects of their souls, which is Lorkhan and Auri-el / Akatosh / Alkosh. Lorkhan used most of the divine's power to create Nirn, coincidentally creating some other gods in the process. Not DIRECT ancestors, but maybe fifth cousin twice removed.
@@christophervaughan7416 so we Dunmer are correct in saying are stronger better Ancestors
A further, much later note, if you convince Serana to cure her vampirism, she'll go to Falion without saying anything along the lines of needing to find someone who knows how to cure vampirism and she even speaks about him as if he's a familiar figure.
And wasn't Serana trapped in a tomb for more than a hundred years?
Even longer, at the time of ESO she is fast asleep
We for sure can say she was sleeping before Cyrodiil Empire existed
@@АлпамысРустембекyeah. We don't know how old she truly is, or how long she was a vampire before she was sealed, but I think she was sealed sometime between the early part of the First Era and the end of the Second Era. It's not very precise, but it's basically what we've got based on the lore of the games, and some vague and contradictory statements.
Nate, I absolutely love how passionate you are about Skyrim. We can hear it so clearly in these investigation videos. It makes it feel all the more real. You get your audience wrapped up in the story. Bravo.
Lol can u imagine what a different game skyrim would of been if the cut content was actually in the game? Wild.
Probably... released a year later.
@@marhawkman303 What do you mean? It's going to be released in the future, for Playstation 5. How many years of development do they need?
@@Here_is_Waldo ES5: Skyrim: PS5 version
Most of these decisions are made to save data and load times and glitches and bugs. But we all know it isnt a bethesda game without thise features.
@@Here_is_Waldo I meant this game, not a future game.
I'm actually glad TES VI is taking this long to come out hopefully the developers aren't cutting as much content this time.
My hope to. I also hope the game engine can handle more then 20 npcs fighting each other unlike Skyrim. Hard to have a civil war when it's just a bunch of skirmishes.
I'm pretty sure it's not even in development yet. After all, they haven't even developed Starfield yet, which is supposed to come out before ES6.
Except they are/were working on other games before working on TES 6. It was confirmed years ago.
nah, just MTX and online features to paywall.... I don't trust Bethesda anymore.
@@planexshifter I wish you were wrong, but given how the Fallout series has been going... I'm going to be very suspicious of the Elder Scrolls before I decide whether to buy it.
*Something strange in you're neighborhood. Who you gonna call?*
All of Skyrim: The Dragonborn.
Dragonborn: slays 10 dragons and commits genocide on all of the bandits in existence
Townspeople: what do you want you filthy beggar
I'd call that flock of pigeons in Nate's game with Aldis (20:10)
Literally all of them...for any reason...always
Crystal Cummings huh?
some random: "Dovahkiin! Dovahkiin! HELP! I need you to go to some tomb and retrieve my plate"
dragonborn: " *NOH! NAHT AGAIN* "
No wonder Morthal associated stories felt incomplete to me, I felt that I missed some quest triggers at first. It's disappointing that Skyrim wasn't a fleshed-out experience, not like past games that are complete experiences.
I always loved this quest, a creepy quest in a creepy place involving creepy people, which really stuck with me because the way it ended for me was walking into Falion’s line of sight, no exchange of words, he just looked at me and the quest ended
As a creepy person i also like this quest
@@AwakenedAvocado you're not creepy or special, you're just socially inept
The last time I was this early, the Greybeards were just the Beards.
A beard without Grey is no beard at all
Didn't you mean to say the Greybeards were still the beardless?
We called em' smooth chins in my day
@@PlatoonGoon *smooth chins* !😄😄
Nice!
tbh You meet a dwemer who claims to have been in another plane when the rest of them disappeared while playing Morrowind. so his claim to have met a dwemer could be true. as a matter of fact, it was probably the same one.
That's what I was thinking as well
But, after soo much time?
@@manspider1833 I mean, corprus makes its victims immortal and Divayth Fyr found a cure that negated all negative side effects, curing all symptoms, giving you immortality, resistance to disease, etc. So it's entirely possible that it could be him.
@@manspider1833 life extending techniques from vampires
If it's Yagrum Bagarn, he definitely has corprus and would be immortal, but he's so maimed by the disease that he uses a Dwemer spider as his lower half. I don't see him wandering the planes of Oblivion anymore!
Falion's cut content has ALWAYS intrigued me the most, I have been bugged by this for YEARS, literally since 2013, and I'm super excited to watch this video
You can really see that this man loves Skyrim. As I love hearing how you can hear his voice get higher when he talks about something unique or undiscovered, and I smile at it. Love ya Nate. Always have always will.
I actually don’t think the Dragon Priest’s were all that into necromancy. After all, the Dragons largely regarded necromancy as taboo much like the humanoid races. That’s what made Durnehviir unique amongst the Dragons: his extensive use of necromancy to gain power and dominance over them. It wouldn’t make much sense for the Dragon Priests to so heavily delve into magics that the dragons themselves found distasteful. I also think that Morthal’s secrets are connected to the dragons, but specifically Durnehviir. Hjaalmarch may well have been his domain, and Kjenstag Ruins his seat of power.
I love how Skyrim is so packed full of content that some of it couldn't be finished, made even more impressive that this game was a 100 man project
And a third of them were lazy and felt finishing was pointless.
@@ThatGuyJunoOfficial or they weren’t given the time or money needed for development developers are just employees they’re told what to do by higher ups Dude they are not responsible for how unfinished some for the things in the game are
There’s Jarl Ravencrone who can see into the future as a physic, Falion is rumored to practice the dark arts.
And a formiddible green ogre named Shrek makes his home deep in the swamp, and anyone who gets to close hears a scream saying, “WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN MY SWAMP!?!”
Some say that Shrek was once a man name Mike Myers, but was taken by the swamp...
@@Stuartw100 You spelled "psychic" wrong yourself. The irony of a grammar nazi correcting someone with the wrong spelling as well...
I like to think Keinstaag was the research lab of necromancy for the dragons,
a particular form of mummification involved submerging the corpse under some swamp stuff, and I like to imagine bog mummies were the proto draugrs. since the lab was already developed their and it was so close to labyrinthian they just kept the shop open their.
Don’t forget the ice aspect. We have necromancy and frost magic here. The question is, what is undead and frozen at the same time? For me there are two things that come to mind. One is stahlrim whitch was used to cover the ancient Nord dead, the other are the wispmothers who look like a frozen ghost.
@@MegaDuras I'm pretty darn sure that Wisp mother's aren't actually un-dead, there like ice wraiths, elemental forces' of nature
@@yourfriendlyneighbourhoodl6206 Wisp mother's aren't Atronachs, and neither are Ice Wraiths. Ice Wraiths even crumble into dust as only completely unnatural beings do.
*SPOILER*
Dhuneviir, the dragon we encounter during Dawnguard might have been involved?
I've avoided that damn swamp since I installed a mod that adds giant snakes to the swamp
That’s a good name
I approve
Remove it then
Oh dear god look what you've done
I just added nice mod from enhanced landscapes that puts giant mushrooms that fit really well in the swamp and one mod that adds bogmort creatures really fit in the swamp.Also fog mod that makes it more creepy.
Giant Snakes you say?! *Argonian Hist Blood boils*
Swamps are my favourite biome! When I first found the swamps I was super excited and everything was spooky and fun, until I figured out it was basically an empty husk. Igrod is super cool tho, fav jarl right there.
Do not question, do not fear, for he is the
*_𝘚𝘸𝘢𝘮𝘱 𝘔𝘢𝘯_*
My home life is a living hell, people around me seem to be dedicated to tearing each other apart. It’s a small escape but thanks to your videos Nate I can think of something else for a little while. And an extra long investigation video at that! I understand these take a lot more time to research but it’s some of your best stuff.
Sorry to hear that :(
Hang in there buddy, it will all get better soon.
Hey. Im sorry to hear that you are going through stuff. But whatever you are going through will hopefully get better. But just keep your head up and dont give up. Stay strong. If you are feeling su!c!dal then know that life gets better and it is worth living. You gotta see what the future has for you.
Did I write this? Feel better soon bud
Do a shot every time Nate adds an "a" to the end of a word.
For real
God damnit, thanks for pointing that out 🤦♀️
Or when his voice cracks
I knowa - itsa thinga he doesa - if he-ah weren't so-ah cute-ah, I would wantah to smacka hima acrossa the face-ah. (but I will let it slide since he is sexy... well, except for that beard he seems to currently enjoy rocking - beards are for communists)
BINARYGOD you probably can’t grow any facial hair lol
A thought on all of this happening in a swamp:
What if the significance of the area lies in all of the living plants and animals, as well as the decomposing dead ones. The soul energy in the area would theoretically be greater than in some other areas of Skyrim because of the density of organic material. Easy access to many souls for necromancy, and would be prone to magical resonance and strange happenings. I know the game doesn't portray this area as full of life, but swamps are dense with it
I was just imagine, if Kjenstag ruins are so might and mystery powerful, and it may have something to be with the dragon cult and necromancy... what IF it may be the place where Durnehviir, the lich dragon managed to create his philactery and struck the deal with the Ideal Masters, and the dread force that emanates from the ruins is infact the Dead Dragon's soul, powered by the Ideal Masters? They tricked him, but also were obliged to enhance his power as promissed, just don't tell him exactly which part of him would gain the power.
Well, we do know that Durnahviir is still talented in Necromancy as is.
Maybe it's just leaking through to Morthal?
I like this theory. It had to have happened somewhere.
Theory:
What if this mysterious ritual was actually the same reason why the Draugr and Dragon Priests are the way they are in Skyrim. I remember watching a video about this special unknown energy or magic that Draugr use to live, that even though they are classified as undead, they were still alive when the process happened. And that they (according to the video) wake up in order to clean the crypts and then transfer their "life energy" to the Deathlords and Dragon Priests and various leaders of said crypts, only to go back to sleep again as a way of recharging this seemingly unlimited source of energy. Similar to how Morthals "powerful" energy for necromancy is portrayed.
Yeah Nate briefly mentions how the ruin has strange powers, but then is like "welp the lore doesn't spell it out."
My top 3 guesses for who Falion is calling upon in the ritual to cure you of vampirism are Meridia, Azura, and the Ideal Masters. The Ideal Masters obviously because of their association to Conjuration and soul gems. However, while they're associated with souls, those souls are... well, dead. Not sure if they'd be able to actually bring someone back to life.
Meridia would make sense since she's the daedric prince of life and is known as the "Lady of Infinite Energies." Obviously, with life as her domain, it would make sense for her to be involved in the "return" of life to a mortal who became undead. Plus, her hatred of undead would probably mean that an undead returning to its natural, uncorrupted state would make her very happy.
Azura would also make a lot of sense because of the phrasing of the ritual speaks of transitions, which Azura is associated with. She is connected to soul gems and Conjuration through her artifact, Azura's Star. She also is often in conflict with undead. Furthermore, the quest to rid yourself of vampirism is called "Rising at Dawn," and Azura is the daedric prince of dawn and dusk.
Falion is probably just offering the soul gem to the first Daedric prince who answers his call...
I think that rejuvenating an undead is something that all Deadric Princes can do. He just offers a Soul as payment to whoever answers.
Kinda like your point with Azura, though she really hates the idea of the Blackstar, of course that is because of the corruption of her artifact and doesn't necessarily inform her opinion on use of souls.
I would like to think Meridia is a good candidate, specifically for cleansing the Dragonborn, as she is interested in you as her champion and helps ward off the awful of her, ever accepting your help as a vampire.
@@insaincaldo Depending on where you are in your playthrough, you may be Meridia's champion as well. And if you get cured after freeing Serana's mother, the Ideal Masters probably won't want to help you out - especially if you keep summoning their pet dragon out of their reach/control.
But yeah, offering the soul to whatever Daedra answers is as good of a guess as any. And if you're the champion of Meridia or Azura, it's most likely going to be one of them that answers first as they have a vested interest in you. It's probably not Molag Bal tho. I think we can safely rule him out. lol
@@SadisticSenpai61 Yeah, the only way Bal would cure you, is if he would want the pleasure of stuffing you with the gift himself.
Or apparently if he has a need to punish presumed family members.
I adore Idgrod, 10/10, best Jarl! (That said, her name gives me definite Headless Horseman vibes, sounding like it's based off Ichabod Crane)
There is a real headless horseman in the game random encounter
She's the best person to ask to make a distraction at the Embassy party. Has the self-knowledge that old ladies can get away with stuff that a younger person couldn't, especially if they have a reputation for being a bit batty to begin with. A real sport.
@@Fenris2 i have only ever seen him one time in a play through out of 100s and i followed him all over i forget if anything happends tho?
If I had to guess, it's likely a play on a reconstructed Old Norse name, "Idgríðr"-meaning something like "restless protector," or "wise woman of mercy."
Then of course the Ravencrone bit just comes from her being essentially an old Witch (crone), and ravens being seen in Old Norse culture as messengers and harbingers of wisdom.
Putting it all together, we've got something to the effect of "merciful wise old witch."
She is one of my favorite Jarls too!
My theory is that the ruins were Durnehviir's base of operations when he was studying his own necromancy and eventually served as his portal to the Soul Cairn prior to his imprisonment.
Not bad a good suggestion.
@@rcbecker1 it makes sense more after I played another few run throughs of the Dawnguard Quest line. After opening Valerica's portal, the dragonborn has their live essence sucked out from the soul cairn until either Serena turns them into a vampire or soul traps them. So it stands to reason that a big enough portal left open could suck the life out of the surrounding land. A portal big enough to transport a dragon.
I would love to invite Fallion and Valerica to a debate and lecture on Conjuration and the realms of Oblivion. I think those two alone could advance the understanding of Magicka as we know it
I wanna see a collaboration with Camelworks or Fudgemuppet. The three of you are pretty much the loremasters of Skyrim.
I watched one video where Fudgemuppet was acting really condescending and like he was better then all his viewers, so i stopped watching after that.
Lady Scrolls is pretty good too.
@@emlynselene1096 never mind that the guy expands a ten minute concept in to hours. CamelWorks did one on the Bug Jars and it took him two hours or so to say "yeah, the developer's don't remember so it was probably nothing".
Manslayer's videos are more lorefriendly than any of the channels you listed, while they point out interesting stuff don't take any lore they talk about at face value because it's off the mark most the time. Would like to see a crossover tho, together they could find the mother of all secrets in game
Shoddycast and Mr. Rhexx are the ultimate lore masters to me.
Interesting video, I appreciate the time spent producing this one. The ending is a little unsatisfying, being a massive tease about what actually happened, but that seems to be a Bethesda trademark I suppose.
On another note, do you suppose that Potema may have potentially used Kjenstag ruins and the massive wealth of Necromantic energy in Morthal to enhance her own powers when she raised her daedric and undead legions during The War of the Red Diamond? Being one of Skyrim's most famous necromancers I have a hard time believing she wouldn't notice it basically sitting on her doorstep.
Problem is, it's in Hjaalmarch and Potema was jarl of Haafingar. She'd be encroaching on another jarl's territory, which would invite conflict. ...Then again, she was a necromancer; boundaries obviously meant little to her to begin with. So maybe you're onto something!
I wonder if Potema, the Wolf Queen of Solutude, got her nickname from High King Svargrim, the Wolf of Solitude?
Yeah I agree, you definitely might be on to something. Potema wouldn't just let that slide. In any case, Potema was involved with vampires too AND in Morthal we see that there was a brood forming in Movarth's lair! Maybe the two vampire groups were working on a bigger plot - to enthrall all of Morthal and prepare for Potema's return to the Kjenstag ruins!!!🤷♂️ It could have been the major take over plot of hers!
Xolcm I think the title of wolf is just what the jarl is called like how Ulfric is called the bear of eastmarch and so was his father i think.
ooooh. This is a theory that sounds plausible. I gotta admit.... I love hearing game related theories. You are definitely on to something here.
Found this channel this week and am absolutely amazed at the amount of good content this man can still extract out of a game that's damn near a decade old and has had more rereleases than most franchises have had actual games.
Voiced character: *pronounces character name in video*
Nate a few minutes earlier: *offers two different wrong pronounciations, says he doesn't know*
Not taking away from the video, it's very great and fascinating, but it's a bit funny, Nate.
City built on a swamp, ghosts, vampires and witchcraft? Morthal is Skyrim New Orleans.
From a story writing perceptive, I personally really like the idea of some evil ritual going so terribly wrong that its disastrous consequences echo thought time for thousands of years.
Petition to have Bethesda release the FULL version of Skyrim in yet another of Todd's rereleases.
Your investigations are so intriguing and informative. I love the detail. Keep it up Nate.
"as if he was controlling something" anyone get the feeling it's some kinda dunwich horror vibe. He is keeping a great nasty beasty away.
I always felt like there was something wrong with the area and he was trying to keep it away with his near-legendary conjuration skills and knowledge.
Some people do say TES and FO take place in the same Universe too, so that might be the origin of the Dunwhich monster.
Nate, you tell my bedtime stories, you're the most enjoyable part of my day, thanks!
Well, well, color me impressed lad, never thought you’d get around to this one
Brynjolf I've finished a quest for you
lmao
*Happy Thief noises*
"well, well, color me impressed LASS"
Uuuuummmmm...
OK sure I guess
Hello new members of the guild
I like how my first interaction with falion was at night in the middle of the swamp. He was weist deep in the water
No toilet paper. Got to clean somehow.
@@Here_is_Waldo in the middle of the night? Were chourus and spiders and mudcrabs and potential vampires are?
@@jackbelmont4389 if you gotta go you gotta go
You know how hard it is to take a dumb in the middle of the woods? Leave the man alone, of Talo's sake!
I dont know much Elder Scrills lore, but each mystery that you bring up makes me want to delve into skyrim again and again.
I didn't realize there was so much to this area. I always got the feeling this area felt a little unfinished in the published game. Great vid!
I'm currently based in the DIY Manor in the Hjaalmarch(I used the True Alternate Start: Sellsword mod), so this really helps me out. Thanks guys! Place reminds me so much of Barovia, i half expected a Strahd poxy to show up(though i suppose the Vampire hunting quest could technically count).....
Every video TheEpicNate315 does is so well put together and satisfying.
I just hit 13:38 and I’m wondering if maybe he’s a Psijic member. Or rather, a potential recruit. What we see in ESO is that the Psijic order does recruit people sometimes, and as skilled as he claims to be, and as knowledgeable as we see him, he’s got to be a good candidate.
Or kicked out
well interesting but i doubt that he is a member of psijic order they only show up once in awhile and he said he wanted to protect the village and if so we probably wouldn’t of been able to follow hom they can freeze time/space
him*
I just wanted to say, Nate you are pretty awesome and I'm glad you are on TH-cam to explain Skyrim and other games and I actually think I wouldn't have known any info on these topics. Thank You Nate.
Same here, thank you Nate, for your Skyrim mystery solving videos that help us understand what's going on. 👍
One little correction: Falion calls upon "those who are not our ancestors" when performing the ritual. That's a literal translation of "daedra". So it can't be the Ideal Masters he's calling upon, because they're their own type of entities.
(Personal theory: maybe he's working with Meridia? She would probably be glad to help Falion undo Molag Bal's work, given her long-standing hatred for him.)
Nah. Meridia is more about killing the undead, not... curing them.
You said there’s something strange in the neighborhood and the ghost busters theme started playing in my head. Haven’t watched any of those movies in years
same, just decades here
2:52 AM.........time to watch another Nate´s video!
Ok you live in Eastern Europe
funny, i woke up to watch this at 2:52 am gmt
Europe gang
Watching at 4:38 AM
CDT Gang
If you use *Cutting room floor* mod then *Laid to rest* quest has additional objective - Return Helgi's doll to her father (optional) and Alva's house is called Piquine's house or Piquine's old house.
There are new NPC's in the town too
Yes it does?
Thanks for the content, bro.
Its oddly entertaining isn't it
@@JoaoSilva-pe3yu just like your profile picture!
[Opening cutscene]
Ralof: Hey, you, you're finally awake. You were trying to cross the border, right? Walked right into that imperial ambush, same as us, and that thief over there.
Lokir: Damn you Stormcloaks. Skyrim was fine until you came along. Empire was nice and lazy. If they had'nt been looking for you, I could've stolen that horse and be halfway to Hammerfell. You there. You and me - we shouldn't be here. It's these Stormcloaks the Empire wants.
Ralof: We're all brothers and sisters in binds now, thief
Imperial Soldier: Shut up back there!
Lokir: And what's wrong with him, huh?
Ralof: Watch your tongue. You're speaking to Ulfric Stormcloak, the true High King.
Lokir: Ulfric? The Jarl of Windhelm? You're the leader of the rebellion. But if they've captured captured you....Oh gods, where are they taking us?
Ralof: I don't know where we're going, but Sovngarde awaits.
Lokir: No, this can't be happening. This isn't happening.
Ralof: Hey, what village are you from horse thief?
Lokir: Why do you care?
Ralof: A Nord's last thoughts should be of home.
Lokir: Rorikstead. I'm...I'm from Rorikstead.
Imperial Soldier: General Tullius, sir! The headsman is waiting!
Tullius: Good. Let's get this over with.
Lokir: Shor, Mara, Dibella, Kynareth, Akatosh. Divines, please help me.
Ralof: Look at him, General Tullius the Military Governor. And it looks like the Thalmor are with him. Damn elves. I bet they had something to do with this. This is Helgen. I used to be sweet on a girl here. Wonder if Vilod is still making that mead with juniper berries mixed in. Funny, when I was a boy, Imperial walls and towers used to make me feel so safe.
Haming: Who are they, daddy? Where are they going?
Torolf: You need to go inside, little cub.
Haming: Why? I want to watch the soldiers.
Torolf: Inside the house. Now.
Imperial Soldier: Whoa!
Imperial Captain: Get these prisoners out of the carts. Move it!
Lokir: Why are we stopping?
Ralof: Why do you think? End of the line. Let's go. Shouldn't keep the guards waiting for us.
Lokir: No! Wait! We're not rebels!
Ralof: Face you're death with some courage, thief.
Lokir: You've got to tell them! We weren't with you! This is a mistake!
Imperial Soldier: Step towards the block when we call your name. One at a time.
Ralof: Empire loves their damn lists.
Hadvar: Ulfric Stormcloak. Jarl of Windhelm.
Ralof: It has been an honor, Jarl Ulfric!
Hadvar: Ralof of Riverwood. Lokir of Rorikstead.
Lokir: No, I'm not a rebel. You can't do this!
Imperial Captain: Halt!
Lokir: You're not gonna kill me!
Imperial Captain: Archers! Anyone else feel like running?
Hadvar: Wait. You there, step forward. Who are you? You've picked a bad time to come to Skyrim, kinsman. Captain. What should we do? He's not on the list.
Imperial Captain: Forget the list. He goes to the block.
Hadvar: By your orders, Captain. I'm sorry. At least you'll get to die here, in your homeland. Follow the Captain, prisoner.
Tullius: Ulfric Stormcloak. Some here in Helgen call you a hero. But a hero doesn't use a power like the Voice to murder his king and usurp his throne.
Jarl Ulfric Stormcloak: (muffled grunts)
Tullius: You started this war, plunged Skyrim into chaos, and now the Empire is going to put you down, and restore the peace.
Hadvar: What was that?
Tullius: It's nothing. Carry on
Imperial Captain: Yes, General Tullius. Give them their last rites.
Priest of Arkay: As we commend your souls to Atherius, blessings of the Eight Divines upon you, for you are the salt and earth of Nirn, our beloved...
Stormcloak Soldier: For the love of Talos, shut up and let's get this over with.
Priest of Arkay: As you wish
Stormcloak Soldier: Come on, I haven't got all morning. My ancestors are smiling at me, Imperials. Can you say the same?
Stormcloak Soldier: You Imperial bastards!
Vilod: Justice!
Ingrid: Death to the Stormcloaks
Ralof: As fearless in death as he was in life.
Imperial: Next, the Nord in the rags!
Hadvar: There it is again. Did you hear that?
Imperial Captian: I said, next prisoner!
Hadvar: To the block, prisoner. Nice and easy.
Tullius: What in Oblivion is that!
Imperial Captain: Sentries! What do you see?
Imperial Soldier: It's in the clouds!
Stormcloak Solldier: Dragon!
Tullius: Don't just stand there! Kill that thing!
Imperial Soldier: What in the Eight Divines is this thing?
Ralof: Hey , kinsman. Get up! Come on, the gods won't give us another chance!
Wow 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
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Ok.
Man, I really admire your work here. I'm a huge fan of Skyrim, and you're my favorite Skyrim youtuber. Just know that your videos are being watched here, in Brasil, by a guy that really admires the way you explain and pass knowledge about this (as we all know) huge game. Really, thanks Nate.
Skyrim probably has some of my favorite lore, in terms of locations in Elder Scrolls. Always happy to see additions to it -as well as the others, thanks to ESO.
21:58
YO! I saw this ghost once in my playthrough! I had no idea he was THAT special!!
I killed him for his armor :P
@@agamer203 He’s invincible :|
Game: literally says character's name for you
Nate: says name two different ways and they're both wrong
Lol!
IKR?
Nate, the pronunskeeation police are lurking for you! 👀
The real way you pronounce it is like saying the word Shrek, it sounds EXACLY The same
Dialects exist, y'know?
@@shadysam7161 yes and a name is intrinsically tied to the Dialect it comes from, so saying it with the accent of a different dialect is incorrect when referring to that person - yes it might be pronounced differently when another person from some other region has the same name in text form, but it is a sign of polite respect to pronounce a persons name the way their dialect does
Really sad that in ESO, even if you free Freiwen before finding Mexton, you can't talk to her and try to tell her Freiwen is alive.
“Gorm is plotting against his boss”. No, he wants his change back from Aldis.
"So let me get this straight. You just sent me out to do all this shit. You _know_ what's causing this mayhem. Yet you won't tell me. Okay."
**sword slides from scabbard**
i want a mod that brings back all the cut content, oh wait a minute there is one
Yah cutting room floor, I love that mod, probably the best mod ever made 👍
@@katarinabrunk8698 REALLY?! I had not heard of this.... I running about 50 mods now so 1 more can't hurt? Right? Thanks for the info!
Is it available on the PS4 or just for the PC?
@@iamradical i think it'll be able to be on ps since most of the concent comes from the game
Cutting room floor mod doesn't add anything to Morthal. :/
Hey how's it going Nate it's guys here
Nate: The game pronounces his name as Fay-Lee-On or Fay-Leon interchangeably
Every npc in game: Fah-Lee-On
This has been one of my favorite videos that you've made, thank you for all your time you put into your content. It's so enjoyable and makes my day better.
1:05 if there’s something strange in your neighborhood, who you gonna call? Ghostbusters!
"won't tell.." this physically aches me at this point.
Sometimes I just wish that Bethesda would add cut content systematically with updates.
Fax tho
"As the sun ends the night"
This is technically called "dawn". There's a daedric artifact you can get called "Dawnbreaker".
The daedra most likely to cooperate in ending someone's vampirism is clearly Meridia.
True she does hate undead
A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON
I got lucky and got that super early but I had to use a mod to actually make it awesome because it's pretty lame vanilla. I forget the mod name but it makes the dawnbreaker actually glow and shine like it's got the power of the sun.
Meridia is known to absolutely despise the undead, and would probably rather see you dead than cured to be honest. Especially since i don't think she even has that power, as far as i know there is no mention of her interacting with vampires ever. And i find it hard to believe she would want somebodies soul in a black soul gem.
It's most likely Molag Bal, he's both the creator of vampirism and was the one who cured it in Morrowind. He would definitely jump on the chance to own more souls and is even thought to be the creator of the first soul gems.
@@ZingoBananaa According to the lore, Vaermina is the only Daedric Prince known to possess the knowledge of curing vampirism. So, whether or not even he knows it, Falion most likely strikes the deal with Vaermina.
I'm so glad you made this video, I always wondered and Ravencrone is BY FAR my favorite Jarl.
I want a Story driven Spin-off in which you play as Falion. He is basically a main protagonist already and, to be honest, the most interesting NPC in Skyrim.
When your mum looks at the search history and blocks naughty websites from the family computer 16:57
Me: cough cough this was way too funny
Ah yes I bet he was murdered to death 2
Murdered to Death 2: Electric Boogaloo.
David love the hermitcraft refrence
@@just_harry1638 the "something" 2: Electric boogaloo meme is way older than Hermitcraft
@@just_harry1638 Thanks, I have no idea what that means. Check out the movie Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo.
oh my god i binged this channel like a year or so ago and i swear you had like?? 50k subs??? oh my god??? unless i was just so unaware but good god good for you man. you deserve it and i love that you haven’t changed a bit despite the huge fanbase! unless it was 500k idk but i SWEAR you didn’t have this many
My personal theory about Falion was that he was a member of the mythic dawn cult who has managed to survive using life extending magic. That would explain his skill with conjuration magic, his knowledge of oblivion, and all the other weird stuff he knows.
Yeah he seems to know too much about oblivion and all that compared to others.
Hey how’s it going swamp it’s swamp here
I always was quite unsure wherever I did see ghosts moving around in the swamp or if it was my imagination.
Usually I would see just some puffs of smoke going around a corner of some ruins, or a blue flash moving past me, but it happened so rarely that I never really investigated it further.
3:52 From the dialogue I've heard, it seems Joric is also the only kid in skyrim who has... ADHD, which is kind of cool.
My guess with Falion's questline is that based on how he says he wants to help Morthal "rest in peace" his goal is probably to put down all the restless spirits and permanently seal or destroy the source of necromantic power. I bet the twist at the end of the quest would have been that the reason Idgrod stops him from investigating is because her ability doesn't actually come from the divines, but actually comes from the spirits of the dead and if he succeeds she would lose her necromancy fueled visions.
Love videos about the mysteries and cut content like this which try to piece them back together! Keep the ESO tie-ins coming!
1:04 When there's somethin' strange, in your neighborhood, who're ya gonna call?
Dragonborn!
He-Man!
Ghostbusters!
A frog?
The dovakin
Man I need Nate's new mod list and how to install it. A full modding guide from him would be awesome! Keep up the good work Nate.
He has one video for his graphical mods I'll link it
th-cam.com/video/H4NCoinPQjs/w-d-xo.html
“Something strange in this neighborhood.”
Sir we are cut from the same cloth.
I'd like to think that it's Vaermina who Falion calls upon. She's the only other person in the entire ES universe who knows how to cure vampirism. I believe you even stated before that if Molag Bal wants to cure someone of vampirism, he has to go through Vaermina(kinda weird how Bal is the god of vampirism, yet he can't cure it). Perhaps Falion went to the Vaermina's realm and personally learned how to cure vampirism from her.
As for the ruins, I do think the dragon cult is the most likely answer. As you stated, they were incredibly obsessed with necromancy. Not only this, the ghost is wearing ancient nordic armor, and his grave is in Hjaalmarch, indicating the ancient nords were active here.
Another great video, keep up the good work!
Todd Howard: here’s Skyrim again, we added fishing
Me: RELEASE THE REST OF MORTHAL’S QUESTS!