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Oliver Tractor and Equipment Tour Part 4 - Hundred Series Olivers
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ค. 2020
- Part four of my equipment and tractor tour, the hundred series Olivers. Includes my 1900 GM, 1800, and three 1600s with background on all models.
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Thank you again for doing this. 100% percent honestly this has been one of the most enjoyable things I have ever watched on TH-cam. I grew up on Oliver tractors and I love them. I’ve been looking for a decent 1755 for quite some time now but there’s not many around Connecticut, for sale anyway. I love hearing the stories and knowledge you have Chris!
Thank you!!!
Personally I think the 1755 is one of the most under appreciated Olivers built, and therefore one of the best values in a used tractor.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Chris what your 3 favorite oliver's?!
@@jamesguralski5156, that's like picking my favorite kid. Dad's Super 88 diesel would be the last one to go if I had to sell stuff to make ends meet. Herman is always fun to drive, especially with good hearing protection. The 1655 and 2050 both put a smile on my face and are very nice to drive, so I'll give them a tie for 3rd place.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris I really like the look and sound of the 1655... The 2050 was great too. Loved the purple 1850, nice runner too. Oliver had a great look to those 4x4 tractors. I like that 1600 4x4 because it was so rare..
I used to run a Cockshutt 1900. It had a GM Canada two stroke in it. It also had a straight beam front end, a lot like a JD 5010/5020, with aftermarket power steering. A good solid machine, with enough static weight to pull a five bottom plow with ease. That double-H transmission with the high/low knob on the dash was unusual, but it worked great. I loved the sound of it.
The more I watch your channel, the more I want an Oliver! Love that they used GM/Detroit diesels and Clarke drivetrain parts.
Myself loving to go to tractor shows and learning new things about tractors and their history, this is a GREAT informational series you have made Chris. I Enjoy ALL the information that you have taken so much time to share and to explain all your great tractors and their histories, along with some stories. Thanks again and keep up the great stuff.
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching
Man I really love this stuff. I think the fact the you know the history of these machines makes it so much more interesting. The back story of the rare 1600 was cool, I’m glad you got it-you are the one the deserve to have it.
Thanks!
Rudy Maibach is my great uncle. His sister is married to my great uncle. We live in the same county. Our Oliver tractors came from him. “Bud” Harold Bucher Jr. was also my great uncle, and my great grandpa Harold Bucher, Avid Oliver restorers and farmers. All located in Wayne county Ohio!
Cool! Rudy is a great guy. I don't get to see him often, but I always enjoy seeing him.
I absolutely love your collection!! My favorite aspect of your collection is the fact you try to keep everyone working, and not just driving them here and there for a parade but you will put them on a PTO for even a feild attachment!! Imo that's the best way to keep a tractor alive is to actually use them for what they are made for!
Thank you. That reminds me, I need to get some gasoline so I can run some of the old ones on the auger during wheat harvest.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris I suppose wheat is going to be ready pretty soon for you? Up in MN nobody every does wheat anymore and if they do it never "winter" wheat. Idk why I know we can't do double crops of course but my grandfather says he remembers guys who would plant wheat in the fall so they could get a little cash flow coming in before the main corn and bean harvest.
Planning on starting wheat tomorrow.
Thank you again for sharing these tractors along with the stories. Nice to see the passion you have for these tractors and the knowledge you have shared. Please keep on going ,I like learning more about these time pieces.
My dad had an Oliver 1900 with front axis assist. That was the tractor I drove while in high school and college. From what you said, it must have been a “C”. It had a 3 point hitch and I remember that filter between my feet. Dad traded it in several years ago. That supercharger whine went right past my hearing protectors. My brother owned a White /Oliver 2155. You could see the MM under the Oliver decal on the steering wheel. Had yellow paint under the Oliver green. The plastic cover on the front said White. We still have the Vista G1000 dad bought new in 69 (?). Dad stopped farming and sold most of the equipment a few years before he died.
Very nice history. I had a 2-155 series 3 with 4 wheel drive from my uncle that i owned from 2006 to 2008. Nice tractor, but i was scared to work on it, so it got traded. Enjoy very much you sharing your projects, history and knowlege.
Nice collection Chris. I've been trying to decide which one I'd like to drive first. Lol
Chris Losey, I really like your videos! Please keep making em’! Very refreshing videos that are non scripted and come from the heart! You really know your stuff! Thanks for sharing your knowledge with others! Makes me want an Oliver!
You know they're not scripted when I have to correct my self with sub titles. Lol
I do love your collection!!!
Even better is your wealth of knowledge.
Thank you for the tour!!!
Thank you for always watching and supporting! I hope everybody is feeling better today.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris you know how it goes.. I can't slow down.. but we are all doing well and getting things done 👍
Gotta support each other 😎
Great video Chris. I really enjoyed the outdoor tour this time. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge and passion for these great tractors!
Thanks 👍 I was hoping for better lighting, but some of it ended up contrasty. It will help with the next video though.
Really enjoy these videos, Thanks and hello from Sweden
Thanks for watching!
That's quite the story on you're 1600 Chris. Thanks for sharing
Enjoying these tour series videos bro.
I was looking forward to this video since we have a 1600 diesel on the family farm. It’s been a good one. Thanks for showing the reverse-o-torc transmission. I always wondered how it worked.
G'day Chris cool video i liked the 1964 Oliver 1600 Industrial 👍🍻
Thanks, Murphy!
Sounds like the 1600 4x might have had plenty of drama! That’s the big reason why I enjoy this channel is that you seem to be a stand up guy that’s word is as good as gold...
I go to a tractor show every year in Canandaigua NY called the pageant of steam! A great show and so cool you got it from around there!
I've been to that show, enjoyed it very much.
That Oliver Guy - Chris Losey that is so cool!! Sad it was canceled this year!
What an incredible collection of farm/Oliver history !!! I learned a lot. My first memory of a tractor was next to my grandfathers house sat a Oliver Super 88.
Chris, I have caught up on your equipment tour videos. I really appreciate the way you go about it. You know WAY more about what you have than any other equipment tour video I have ever seen. I'm about your age and grew up within 10 Miles of the Peckens dealership in Cohoctah but was never there. I actually don't remember even going by there with equipment around because we never went that way. There were definitely a few Olivers and Whites around. I have quite a bit of time feeding cattle on a 2-85 on a farm where I worked but grew up on old Deeres and old farmalls. I do remember how smooth the old Oliver 6 cyl gassers sounded. Thank you for the great videos.
Peckens opened in 1896 or there about. They had quite a run! Thanks for watching.
Hi Chris! I live near Coryn farm supply, small world!
Love your videos!
Awesome! Thank you!
Thanks Chris! Enjoy this series of videos!
Thank you for watching!
Nice 1600 and 1800 4x4. Wish you would have started them! Next vid!
Great INFO I grew up driving Oliver's Dad started me plowing with a 1650 and 4 bottom plow when I was 6 or 7 years old, Still have them both along with several other Oliver's and Whites.
The 1600 fwa is a cool looking tractor, your collection is excellent.
Thank you!
Really neat series! I know it's a lot of work but it's interesting to see the progression of tractor technology. I grew up volunteering at a "thresherman's museum" as a kid and spent all my time working on the steam engines, never got to know a lot about the gas engine side of things.
Thanks!
I did enjoy it Chris. What startled me was when you went around the front end after talking about the breather going big time pulling a plough was seeing the distributer. No wonder the rings are gone on #4 because of burning gasoline. I bet it has good economy though.
I prefer diesel for most uses myself, but I wasn't going to get picky on a 1 of 28 tractor. I know of about a dozen of them in the hands of collectors now, so the pickings are getting pretty slim.
Oliver's gas engines were very fuel efficient. People call them gas hogs today because they have gotten used to the fuel economy of the diesel engine. I forgot to mention this in the video, when the 1800 A gas was tested at the University of Nebraska, it set a new fuel economy record for gasoline powered tractors. To this day, that record has never been broken. Granted, gas was on its way out by then, but it was another 15 years or so before the last of the gasoline powered farm tractors rolled off anyone's assembly line, so there was time for improvement.
Hey Chris how's summer going? Busy here!! I am finally getting caught up on videos and really enjoying your equipment/series tour videos! That's a great story about your 1600 mfwd. So I became very good friends with George Coryn in the past few years. He is a really good guy we buy alot of parts and a few tractors from him. He is located about an hour and a half east of us here in NY. He did the same thing for us on a tractor we bought from Polks summer auction a few years back. They had a 880 diesel wf on the auction, George was down there at the auction, he checked it over and bought it for us. Then got it shipped home. That's really cool you mentioned him and I will tell him to watch the video. Thanks for the great video's....
We were unloading the 1600 from his trailer to mine when the blinker fluid sized makeshift gas tank ran out. George was a big help there helping to round up some gas. I could have sold the tractor twice while we were transferring it between trailers.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris that's funny. I bet you could have made your money back double fold...
Awesome video
Thanks!
I really love these equipment tours. Growing up with olivers and still having a few I learn a lot more watching these videos. I am sure you know the guy over my way by Eau Claire Wi he is known as the tractor doctor he always has some interesting stuff there some stuff is always for sale.
Yep, from what I have seen, he has a very impressive collection.
That Oliver Guy - Chris Losey I live about a hour east of him. Went there once to look at the collection and we ran out of time to see it all.
That 1600 with FWA (last tractor) really peaked my interest, as my grandfather had a similar Oliver on his farm in upstate NY. He has passed on, but my uncles still run that farm. Lots of fond memories hearing that Oliver hard at work pulling a 5 bottom plow. Just curious what part of NY you found tractor. I couldn't remember what model he had, but it was similar in every way, even the "make-shift cab" and front loader. Thank you for the awesome memories as I watch all of your videos on a great tractor that is now gone.
Went up to the farm this past Christmas and the old Oliver was still there, but limited use now. It was an 1800 (C series) from 1964 with fwd. I confirmed this with my uncles who still run the farm. I wish I could restore this old beast. It was grandpa's pride and joy.
I'm right near coryns farm supply. Used to go to their auction every spring. George is a good guy. I'm friends with his son too. Kinda cool you got that one from upstate NY!
I actually come from Connecticut every year to the pageant of steam tractor show there in Canandaigua NY! A great show!
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Chris Losey, that flex ring in the injector pump is called an Elasta Cast.
Thanks!
Thanks Chris
I have always liked the A-model 1800 the best
I like the decals, they've got style!
@@ThatOliverGuyChris
Yes i would have to agree 👍
I think with the farm and the wheat field in the background it made for a good back drop for the video! Keep up the good work. I can never figure out why there are always a few bums out there that have to give a thumbs down. I sometimes think it just boils down to jealousy. I am sure you saw Paul's picture on the community tab the other day about the person accusing us of not grazing our cows. I think that some people get jealous of what other people have and so if they can't have it they are gonna try and take it away from those that do. I think at least in this country we all have an equal opportunity to succeed in life. If people work hard and put their minds to something they can achieve their goals.
I did see what Paul wrote about that. Some people just aren't happy unless they make someone else unhappy. I didn't realize you had to graze them a certain amount to be organic. I figured that as long as they were eating organically produced feed, it didn't matter if it was in a pasture or a feed bunk. So i learned something there. I knew that getting onto TH-cam would eventually lead to people leaving rude comments, because there is one in every group. It's actually been better than I expected, and I mostly ignore the few that I do get. Now, mess with my family or my livelihood, and the banhammer is going to hit. I don't have time for that stuff, and like the old saying goes, arguing with an idiot is like wrestling with a pig. You both get dirty, but the pig enjoys it.
As to the thumbs down... I don't get it. If you don't like it, move along. They way the 3 or so thumbs down quickly appear now, I think I might have some regulars. Joke ison them, according to TH-cam a thumbs down counts as interacting with your audience and helps your channel out. The people with insulting comments are still comments, and help your ranking. If these people really don't like what we have, the best thing they can do is stop watching as soon as possible and move to the next video.
The great thing is, there is an awesome group of folks who follow and support these smaller farm channels (although Chris your getting pretty big now!) Hi Stephen was just replying to you lol.
You see the same names and feel like you get to know them somewhat. As views go up, you get more of those people that come on and tell you your doing it wrong, etc. I wouldn’t / don’t feel bad about blocking them from commenting, if it’s not constructive. If their an a-hole once, you know they will be again. Click block and forget’em.
My daughter and niece want to a video where they read the mean comments in a way that only 2 teenage girls can. Lol
That Oliver Guy - Chris Losey kinda like the mean tweets bit. Could be some good winter time content filler, but than again it could attract more mean comments...either way don’t let it bother ya. You are doing 👍 thanks for suggesting Larry in Texas, called him, he was out, but it’s nice to have another resource.
It is nice to see when these kind of comments are made though how many good people are out there to come to your rescue and support you.
Im a fan of late 60.70. Early80s tractors like them all restored with fresh paint like the style and every thing was made of iron any way i. Have a small colection of fixed up older tractors and the old teen hundred serious always ben my favorit all fixed up love that cast iron grill and im a fan of 2 wheel drive ill find one at a auction on day ive seen a few eather to rough and to much cob or just went for to much that 1800 is gorgious
I purchased a Oliver 1600 at a farm sale payed 11500..00 for it' I had been balling hay with a 3000 ford.tractor the ford had work very hard when I started balling with the Oliver I could not believe it the baller NH 7500 I never had a tractor and baller work so good together.
Was there a dealer sticker anywhere on the last tractor? I live in central NY, we had 2 oliver dealers within 15 miles. Used to be a lot of Oliver tractors around here. Only thing I have left is Oliver superior grain drill, i scrapped the corn planter but kept the pail of plates.
I haven't been able to find a dealer sticker on it. It was up near the east end of Lake Ontario, near Watertown.
I really enjoy watching your equipment tours along with your knowledge production history. Do you know if Oliver ever had plans to produce a 1500 or 1700?
Not that I've ever heard. The 1550 didn't come out until 65 and 1750 didn't come out until 66, but the 16, 18, and 19 were all in 64.
Interesting tidbit... there were a few unsold 1800s left over in 66, so they pulled those in and reworked them to be 1750s. If a 1750 has a Lanova style head like my 1800, there's a chance it's one of thos tractors.
There is a 1900 fwa coming on auction time. Lot number 10195
Thanks! I looked at the pictures and will keep an eye on it. I noticed it has the creeper drive.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Of course you would decode the SN. LOL
Actually, I could see the lever on the side cover in one of the pictures. I did do a little research on it once I saw the white faced gauges. It was the 7th C series, in either 1800 or 1900. Now I wonder if it came with the white faced gauges.
I appreciate the information. Growing up on a farm Lennon/Corunna, Michigan and my grandfather buying a new Detroit Diesel front drive assist Oliver 1950, I remember the agony of spending the money for that machine. It was a beast though. Eaglegards...
@@fastsetinthewest For giggles price out a new machine. I don't know how a family farm can afford anything new.
Grew up on a b1900 4wd. I hope to own it at some point. It’s in the family yet but my stepjerk, father, is tough on things and I’m afraid by the time I get it it may be scrap.
That would be frustrating. I can come over and kick him with my camo crocs I wore in this video. He'll never see it coming! Lol
That Oliver Guy - Chris Losey 😂
Blinker fluid!!!
Excellent video. I think the 1x00 series are handsome. Especially the 1800a or 55 series.
Is Funk transmissions the same one that made the airplanes and v8 ford8n kits?
Thanks. I had always assumed there was a connection, but I'm not finding anything online so far.
jesus imagine seeing that "super 88" up close and just _size_
So you recommend The Oliver Farm Tractors book by T. Herbert Morrell/Hackett (found of Amazon) for the Oliver fan? Is there other nomenclature you’d recommend for Oliver fans? Another great equipment tour Chris. Loving the history & stories accossiated with each piece. The 55 series will be quite the vid & I’m looking fwd to it. Take care & stay safe. Cheers
Yes, if I had to pick one book, that would be it. Herb was an engineer on the 88, and chief engineer by the time of the 4 digits. So many first hand accounts of behind the scenes stuff. Lots of pictures too.
Another great book is a guide to Hart-Parr, Oliverand White Tractors by Larry Gay. It has pictures and a brief synopsis of every wheel tractor under those name up to 1996, with the best serial number list you will find in print. Larry is very thorough in his research and you can trust what he has in his book.
Thank you very much for the response Chris. I’ve always liked Oliver & being Canadian Cockshutt as well. I’ll be looking to order both of these books. Cheers
very cool video. I was wondering did the four wheel drive 1600 come in diesel too. My cousin had some oliver tractors and the one i remember the most was a four wheel drive that had a v8 engine and it was loud. I don't remember the model number but it sure was impressive. Anyway thanks for the videos.
The 1600 4 wheel drive did come in diesel as well, but it was also a 6 cylinder. The only factory Oliver with a V8 was the 2255. They used the Cat 3150 or 3208, depending on what year it was built. They are loud and impressive, I'm sure that's what he had. I've got a playlist of videos of my 2255 on here.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris I just watched your playlist and that was the tractor i remember. My cousin's tractor i think had a cab and the exhaust was basically like you mentioned where some guys sent the pipes straight up on both side. I think it may have been something like headers with pipes pointing up. His other big oliver was a six cylinder, also impressive. Don't know the model number. Both had cabs on them if i remember correctly. After watching your videos, the oliver tractors are now in the to three of my favorite tractors even though i never got to use one.
I really enjoyed this, I'm glad you sent the link. One question where could I get rear rims for my 1800?
Try www.millertire.com they specialize in tires and rims for older tractors. What part of the country are you in? I know of several salvage guys that might have used ones.
I looked and Millers have them listed as a deep well rear rim.
I'm in northeast PA
@@lynnhavenfarm8514 Coryn Farm Supply in Canandaigua, New York might be able to get you one. 585-394-4691
Chris, really enjoy your channel. I've learned so much just watching your videos. Have you given any thought to writing a book?
My wife and I used to edit and write for the Hart-Parr Oliver Collector, the magazine of the Hart-Parr Oliver Collector's Association, so a lot of this is in writing in back issues. The magazine is still produced and full of great information. You can find out more at the club website at www.hartparroliver.org
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Nice! It would be a shame if all that knowledge weren't recorded in some fashion. I'll have to check out the link!
Some people are hesitant to sign up because they don't want to belong to a club. Membership includes the magazine, and you don't have to go to a single meeting if you don't want to.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Thanks. Just signed up and am looking forward to receiving my first issue! I'm a retired college professor who grew up in Northeast Nebraska driving Olivers on the family farm. Just bought a 1960 770 with a farmhand loader. It has reminded me of how much I missed hearing that unique Oliver sound!
Awesome!
So my 1600 must have been a factory diesel, sadly its not anymore. Its numbers are 16-1210.
Yep, factory diesel with narrow front. Too bad, they're kind of hard to come by.
Will you be making an implement video to go with the machinery videos?
Yes.
Glad to see you here bud. More on team good green
You should have a video intro that is that 1600 4WD starting up, and maybe an outro of it shutting off.
Like 10 seconds intro, and 10 second outro
I was going to do an outro of each tractor getting parked and shut off, but when I saw the length of the video, I trimmed that and a few other parts to get it down to what it is. I could throw those together as an outtakes video...
please do!!
That is a great explanation of those. My Uncle had a 1600 gas. I know it was redone with the bigger pistons and sleeves. The thing I can’t figure out is that I am sure it had a over, direct,under hydro power but I don’t see where those came out until the 55 series? On the other hand my uncle was a good mechanic and he and my grandpa and another of my uncles had a dealership so maybe he retro fitted it? Any thoughts on that?
Part of the design requirements for the over under was that it had to fit in the same space as a hydra power. So it wouldn't take much more than some labor to swap the 2 units out.
That Oliver Guy - Chris Losey thank you! I have concluded he must have swapped it out. I was 21 when he sold out but I don’t think my memory is that bad. I will have to ask my cousin and my brother about it also.
Chris, thanks for the video, hope you don't mind a couple questions....my '59 880, I think is still spur gear. Is any 80W-90 ok for that in Texas, or do I need to worry about bronze materials in the transmission and stick with a GL-4? Also, no heavy implements on the PTO yet, but how do I care for the PTO clutches to help them last, engage fast/slow, high rpm or low rpm?
Do you have the power booster? If you do, 80w-90 is too thick for the sprag clutch in the power booster. If it is power booster, I'd use a universal hydraulic/transmission fluid, if it's not power booster, 80w-90 will work fine.
For the PTO, engaging slow with the engine running slow enough to start whatever you're running without stalling is the best way. It shouldn't take long to engage, just a couple seconds, but slamming it in will be hard on the splines and other parts.
It's fascinating to hear all of your knowledge about Oliver equipment. I vote for not doing videos outside, too hard to hear. On a side note, something tells me you knew exactly how much that 1600 FWA was worth.....😉
The wind was definitely killing my audio. Being able to walk around them was nice, but the strong lighting was making for a lot of contrast. I'll try to improve on that next time. At that point, I honestly had never seen one sell, but suffice it to say, I knew I was getting a good deal. :)
Reverse-O-torque is awesome. Didn’t know it existed, is it exclusive to industrial applications only?
I've never seen one in an ag tractor, but I heard they were experimenting with putting one in the 550 to make it an even better loader tractor. The Olivers with Revers-o-torq had a transmission temperature gauge that read "shift" on the hot end, to let the operator to know that they needed to be using a lower gear in the main transmission. I wonder how well they would have held up to the constant load of pulling a plow in a field. There was a heavier duty revers-o-torq they used in the industrial 1950s, and some of those pulled dirt pans, so I'd think that one would have held up to farm use.
That Oliver Guy - Chris Losey would be a great snow mover, loader or box pusher. 👍
I really like this 1600 for loader work. I never have to take my hands of the steering wheel and loader controls. Tying the revers-o-torq in with the throttle also is nice for not hammering away at the transmission each time you switch directions.
That Oliver Guy - Chris Losey it was an awesome idea. I did snow with a 6400 series Deere, you didn’t have to clutch it to switch between forward and reverse (just idle down and flip a selector) and it had a foot throttle. Was nice for commercial snow work. We haven’t had a loader on any of our Oliver’s for years, bobcats are more effective for us.
Did you ever sell any Combines or forage harvestors at the dealship??
My family sold many Oliver combines back when the combine factory was in Battle Creek. They still sold them after that, but it seems like less and less each year. I don't know what reason grandpa had for the lower sales numbers on combines.
We sold many Gehl forage harvesters, but as for Oliver, I have 1 model 200 that has been around here as long as I can remember. I don't know the story on that one, but I assume they sold it at some point.
You know you talked about the MFWD not catching on with farmers right away. Now a days everyone hardly considers buying a newer tractor without it. The same thing applied when Allis Chalmers first introduced rubber pneumatic tires, they had to do a campaign to show the farmers that it could work as good and better than steel wheels. Did Oliver do much of a advertisement program to show the advantages of the MFWD? Also what were the major differences between the A, B, and C series? You mentioned the hydraulics and pressure lube, and also the decals. Didn't they change the throttle location? As always you do a great job on your videos, I look forward to the 50 series video.
By the time we closed, we couldn't hardly sell a 2wd tractor. Oliver produced literature specifically for the FWA tractors multiple times, I've got dealer ad copy for them, radio spots, they definitely put some effort into it. We would demonstrate them by plowing in 2wd, set the plow deep and go until we found a tough spot to spin out in. Then we'd stop the tractor, put it 4 wheel, and take off again without lifting the plow. That sold a few of them. I was surprised when I found out how few of some models were made. There seemed to be a strong presence in our area of FWA Olivers, perhaps it was because of that demonstration technique. My 1600 is my only FWA Oliver that I didn't find in Michigan.
The 1800 B got more displacement over the A series, and more power both gas and diesel. The 1900 B was mostly cosmetic. I know at some point the 4-53 got the 4 valve head on place of the 2 valve, but I don't know exactly when without looking it up. Hydra-power drive was ready to go, and I rarely see a B series without it, even though it was an option. The C series was the improvements to the hydraulics and transmission, as well as the new dash that gave it tilt/telescope steering, and moved the throttle to the side of the dash. Both the A and B series had the throttle on the steering column. Today each series would have gotten a new model number to tout the new features and to get the guys that have to have the latest to open up their wallets.
Really neat to hear about the demonstrations! The only real strong presence of MFWD Oliver's around here seems to be the Tractor Doctor's collection. I didn't know about them switching the heads on the GM 4-53's, I wonder if it was around the time they tested the 1900 B MFWD at Nebraska? Wasn't that the first Oliver to break the 100 hp mark? Also cool to hear that the C series were the ones that introduced the Tilt-O-Scope steering. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it the very last of the C series, during the change over to the 50 series that they implemented the dry type air cleaners and alternators? Or was that on the 50 series only?
To the best of my knowledge, dry air cleaners and alternators were not added until the 50 series. Until recently, I would have said 1900 was Wheatland or Rice only, but it has been discovered that there were 5 1900 Row Crops built close to the end of production. So you never know what Oliver might have done.
That’s right! I remember seeing that narrow front 1900 on Facebook.
great video... appreciate the technical as well as the historical. you don't often get both!....what was the problem with the earlier flapper roosa shutoff? I am having pump trouble with a 770 right now.
They didn't elaborate, just that they were troublesome.
thanks, I will mention that issue to the guy working on my roosa!@@ThatOliverGuyChris
The flapper was only in ones with electric shut off/on. If you have a pull cable to shut down, it's not an issue.
thanks..good to know, the pump man said probably I have a bad governor sleeve no confirmation yet,,,symtoms were running good shut off, then a no start, with like 5 small fuel puffs and a heavy fuel knock on one cylinder when cranking the fuel knock goes away when pulling the cutoff, I checked crank/cam /pump timing all ok?@@ThatOliverGuyChris
Yeah, that sounds like that governor ring. Bit break off and plug holes. Shut it off and the bits come out of the holes, but eventually find their way back in.
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Judging by the front axle pivot on the 1900 I remember, I think it must have been set up for the optional front drive. It had a straight beam axle with kingpins, rather than the tube axle with the spindles going down.
Dumb question: why were there both Cockshutt and Oliver tractors? Was it a dealer thing from way back?
White bought Oliver in 1960 and Cockshutt in 1962. Rather than produce 2 different tractors, White discontinued The Canadian built Cockshutt tractors and replaced them with Oliver built models. As a general rule, Cockshutts were sold in Canada and Olivers in the USA. So in short, it was a marketing thing, selling a known name to existing customers.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Thanks. It’s something I wondered about.
I have a 1650 wheatlander. Only a 6 speed unfortunately.
Did you have to clutch to engage the 4 wheel drive on the 1800
It's easiest to be moving just a little bit, clutch and engage so there's no load against the gears.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris thank you around here in northern Ohio there’s not many Oliver’s so to learn about them I got to out source
Let me guess you met George at Yoder and Frey in Archbold.
Yep! I think he's on a first name basis there.
Do you have any of the GT's made by Jacobsen? I just picked up a 145 and looking for info.
I don't. I do have a 16 horse Jacobsen.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris I am sure the 16hp you have is better than any 30hp today! Thanks for taking the time to reply. I love the big boys too just do not have room for the variety I enjoy!
If you happen to check out auctiontime.com, therer is a 1900C FWA coming up for auction in a few weeks, Lot # 10195
Thanks! I'll keep an eye on that one.
How common was the 1655 deisel narrow front
I don't know an exact number on those, but I don't see very many of them. I had to do a bunch of research at the Floyd County Museum in order to find out the production numbers I know now.
Quite a few had narrow fronts for mounted corn pickers. My cousins bought theirs new with a narrow front and later put a wide front on it.
I have a 1800 checkerboard I was told it is a industrial model. How do I tell the difference between that or a Wheatland tractor? I looks just like your 1900 except it had a gas engine.
Look at the specification number on the serial tag. The first 2 digits should be 18 if it is a checkerboard. The digit after the space or dash will be 5 if it is a Wheatland, and should be 7 if it is industrial.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris 18-4211
My bad, i read my chart wrong or hit the wrong button. 4 is Wheatland. 5 is Utility. You have an 1800 A series Wheatland with a diesel engine. Sorry for the confusion.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris it had a gas motor when I bought it. It must have been changed. Thanks for the info
if I give you the casting numbers from the block can you tell me what engine it is I was assuming it was an A series 265 which is hard to find an overhaul kit for. But you said it came with a diesel engine.
hey what about a 1450 ,nobody talks about those
One of Oliver's less famous tractors. Built by Fiat for Oliver the 1250 and 1450 did not earn a good reputation , mostly due to engine reliability. Their replacements were much improved.
I know George.
What Oliver of anything do you not have?
Lots of stuff! I would like to have an Oliver feed grinder/mixer, an Oliver hay mower-conditioner, the list goes on and on. There's some tractors I'd still like to add to the collection, too. I might need to start playing the lottery.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris so do I because I would like to make hay with all oliver equipment
Also did oliver ever make a round baler I'm not sure
No round baler. I remember having a dream of finding one, and boy was I disappointed when I woke up.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris OK I have a hay equipment question on a 415 Oliver sickel mower where do I find a Pitman arm and other parts?
That might be tough. Try Larry Svehlak. He has loads of parts from old Oliver dealers. Google "Svehlak Tractor " and you'll find his contact info .
Boy , oh ,boy! The Gaul of some people. Price asked was met! Done deal. Anyone that tries to back out of a deal does not deserve any respect as a man.
He did end up doing the right thing. I understand it would be hard to walk away from extra money, but as a friend of mine said, there might not have even been a buyer from Oklahoma.
Do you own an Oliver 1900 FWA? 🤔
No, I don't.
@@ThatOliverGuyChrisThanks for the fast answer. The Oliver's are very rare in germany. I love the design and color from the 100 and later models with the nice green and white. 😉 Greetings from germany. 👍
Thanks for watching. I hope to get a 1900 FWA someday, it would look good with the 1600 and 1800.
have you gotten my letter yet?
I did. Thank you! I'm running wheat this week, but I'll get back with you soon.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris sounds good
Had a guy do me wrong on a deal with an old IH pickup about 25 years ago. We had a deal made and I was securing the funds and when I called him to tell him I got "Too late, sold it today. A guy came by with cash and a trade." I realize I didn't have the cash in hand, but we had done deals before and knew each other so I felt he was a jerk for not calling or giving me a couple hours to get back to him. He called a couple years later and asked if I wanted to buy another truck. I told when he could.park that one.
I didn't know this guy from Adam, and I was ready to walk away from the deal if he wanted to sell it to the other guy. As much as I wanted that tractor, I don't work that way. I'm glad he stuck with the deal. I had taken a bit of a beating on an Oliver crawler I sold a couple year before this deal. I was selling 2 at the same time and quoted the guy the price for the wrong crawler. He got a deal because I was the one that made the mistake. I had no one to blame but myself on that one.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris I hear you. I try real hard not to do a bad deal to anyone. I get the fact that my seller wanted the bigger money, who wouldn't? Just pretty low to jerk a deal out from under someone who wanted your stuff and you had some history with, I thought. Sadly, most people just go for that extra cash.