Walkin and Talkin Olivers at the HPOCA Summer Show
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- A walk around of the display at the Hart Parr Oliver Collectors Association Summer Show at Canandaigua, New York. For more info on the HPOCA visit their website at www.hartparroliver.org
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Chris thanks for spending the time going through all the tractors and talking about them your wealth of knowledge is quite impressive of the Oliver tractors. Ross most likely seen a couple of tractors he wants to pick up 🤣🤣🤣🤣 thanks Michael
The G350 would look good with his Italian girls.
Really appreciate and enjoyed the video. The efforts are so appreciated by us that aren't able to attend the shows. Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it!
It was great to meet you on Friday, Chris. What an incredible turnout this year. Way more featured tractors than what I can remember from previous years.
They really cleaned the barns out! It's not cheap to haul stuff these days, so I impressed and grateful they were able to do it.
Hey Chris it was great to meet you at the show. Thanks for taking the time to talk to us and all the nice comments on our tractors. I cannot take all the credit, if it were not for my brother in law Mike none of this would be possible. As I said we do this together collecting and restoring tractors. So a big thank you to him! We got everything home today from the show and cleaned up again! As I was unloading the 1800 off the trailer it blew a hydraulic line from the steering motor behind the dash so it never ends more repairs! Thanks again
It was a pleasure to meet you as well. You guys did a great job with your tractors and put on a great show.
There's no repair as dreadful as one on a restored tractor. Like putting a hydraulic pump in a purple 1850. 😂
It was great talking with you. Thanks for bringing the HPOCA summer show in Canandaigua New York to your viewers. Great job 👍
Any time!
Never got any video but lots of photos from the Manitoba threshermans reunion this year. They had I think a Cockshut group there, lots of those tractors there anyway which was cool to see. Have to thank you for actually knowing what I was looking at!
Thanks for taking the time to make the video, that was a great turnout of tractors!
I was really impressed. The local club really worked hard to put on a top notch show.
Thanks for the content Chris. The video means so much to me. My wife and I were planning to travel to the show from N.C however we both came down with Covid and had to stay home.
My wife has a friend that lives in the area and they were planning on getting together. Her son got married the weekend before and now everyone is coming down with covid from that. So they didn't get to meet up. The wife was pretty bummed out, but we don't need that slowing us down. Hope you feel better soon.
Cable shovel, I think are the words you were searching for when you heard the Detroit. Thanks for the walk around, love hearing you talk about the various models and history.
That's it! Guaranteed to only leak in the engine compartment. 😂
@@ThatOliverGuyChris 😂
Thank-you B.S. Losey! You taught me lots of new things today!!!
😂😂😂. Maybe I should go with PhD. Piled Higher and Deeper!
Thank you again Chris ' Mr.Oliver king' for this wonderful post, but I think Herman would win the blue ribbon.
Too bad he's such a challenge to move to shows. He needs to get out more.
Awesome show...Thanks for sharing with us.
Thanks!
They are beautiful!
Such a cool video you knowledge is amazing. Thanks for making them. Reminds me of your collection tour videos. I loved them to.
Awesome, thank you!
Thanks for the great video! Lots of history. Be safe.
Thanks!
It was a great show. A ton of good looking oliver tractors showed up and lots of parts there too
I didn't get much of a chance to wander the flea market, but I did get some parts at the feature barn.
@ThatOliverGuyChris golf cart was a must for me I found weights that I needed and fenders, emblems and a few other items. And the golf cart was great to have as a pack mule. Do you think you will have time to join us in Lancaster ohio for the buckeye oliver club summer show the 18,19,20th of August
@@matthewdavis4081 that's when I'll be moving my daughter into her dorm room at college, so I won't be able to make it.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris I am sure we will cross paths one of these days.
Hello from Tasmania it’s bedtime I’ll watch it tomorrow.Kerry
That's incredible to me to have people watching all around the world. Thanks!
Lunch time in Ireland 🇮🇪
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Watching from Spain.
😆😆that funny sounding tractor at the beginning was trespassing I believe.
Nice looking tractors for sure.. A lot of work fixing and hrs too making them look like the do
Anytime I see a hole I know I got to check it out. Heck sometimes I even stick my finger in it.
That comment was Ross bait. 😂
@@ThatOliverGuyChris 🤣🤣🤣
Great video to see, thanks for the walk around video.
Glad you enjoyed it
Hello Chris, I totally love this video. Saw several 70 standards like my father had. Made my day. I drove them when I was younger. Lol
Thanks!
I love this!
Excellent.
Looked like a nice turn out!
The Cockshutt 1350 is the same as a Jet Star 3 Super. Saw one last week at a MM show.
Thanks Dave!
Please keep putting out great videos can't wait for your next one 1⃣ keep up the great work
Thanks!
Thanks for the video
You bet
Excellent video. Its like I had an explanation to everything I looked at haha. Man was I way off base on that yellow 1900 thats really interesting
Looks like fun.
Chris - why was the 1950T brake pedal configuration (coming off the right side of the console pedestal) different from say the 1850's? Thanks for the great walk around!
The 1850 had the fuel tank that went over the rear half of the engine, and they needed that for air filters on the T. Switching to the 1650 style dash gave them room for a fuel tank that went back to the dash, but it also took away a spot for a battery. That worked out because the 1650 dash has the brake pedals mounted on it, leaving room for the second battery under the right floor panel where the pedals used to be. The same was applied to the 2050 and 2150, for the same reasons.
Awesome video!
Thanks!
Great tour and informative commentary. thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks for the video Chris
Thank you for watching
I think the cultivators are neat to, but they are a pain to haul, make your tractor take up 2x more space, and make the tractor not work for almost anything else. We have 4 sets, I think now because my dad kept buying them for next to nothing to save them from scrap. I used to put a set on a 60 every year when I was as young as 12 but now we have a 66 that a set lives on. I don't miss the pinched fingers, though, 😆. I just picked up a 66 industrial I'm working at restoring, so I'll have some of a different color in my collection
Cool!
the speedometer is on the tachometer. I am 56 and ran these all my life. choose your gear and go by rpms
At 50:55 my son and dad are starting up the 2150 for the parade! Super cool to see, thanks for sharing
I was talking with them right before that. I gave them each a Herman magnet. That sure is a sweetheart of a tractor.
I have a 1650, bought new in. 1966 but it’s actually a 65.
Original paint was Green then painted Harvest Gold and then painted Cockshutt Red
It has the whole stoplight collection in one tractor. Have you gotten the build card for it? Sounds like it has a story to tell.
Thanks Chris for thinking of us while you where at the show,
It's a long way to go, and gas ain't cheap. Glad to help out.
Great video Chris
Thanks 👍
Dad's "large" Cockshutt was tan, definitely not the same color as our red Co-Op E-3, all based on my memory from when I was 4-5 years old.
really good video
Thanks
Now I'm wishing I would/could get a hold of a FWA 1955 my dad used to have from the his early days rice farming, looked just like that first one in this video. It got delegated to PTO ditch pump duty when he upgraded to a late 70's FWA 4640 JD
Thanks for the video Chris.
Anthony is one of the best people in the hobby 😎
This was the first time I had met him in person and it's like we've known each other for years.
Great video wife and I have watched it twice. When did they put category 3 on the 1955 ares has it , never realized it had it till I was washing it one day years ago . Again great video got my eye on a 2050 front assist 2nd owner tractor low hours , are 2150 need a little brother lol . From turkey creek farms be safe n thankful
The category 2- 3 hitch was an option for the 1955 from day one. My 1955 has the category 1-2. The 2-3 hitch with the external cylinders became available in 67 on the 50 series large frame tractors. They had to do some modifications to the casting to make a spot for the anchor pins for the leaf springs of the draft control system. Because of that, it can't be retrofit to earlier tractors.
Is it surprising that there weren't any super 99s, 950, or 990s, or not right for the area
I was talking about that with some locals. They have a huge tractor pull on Saturday and there are some large collections in the area, so we were both surprised that there weren't any there. I doubt many were sold in that area back in the day. Hills, row crops and small fields were the dominant features.
Great job and information brother that's pure oliver heaven there my dairy friends here in Miami County Ohio were chopping silage this week they have a fleet of White's that were all working and big Clauss chopper ol pop was running been running our 1650 gas on hay this summer i wanted a diesel but this gas gets down to business very nice tractor rescued 77 diesel the other day needs injection pump but very smooth ol gal 👍
Awesome. Corn chopping videos are some of my favorites to watch on TH-cam.
Love the show walk arounds! Hope you can make the summer show in MO next year I’ll buy ya supper and a drink if you do!
I'm planning on going.
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Some really special tractors there, I'd bet you was excited to go to this one. A lot to look at for sure. I have a question for you Chris, where can I get some silver and gray paint and what would I need to do a total repaint for my White American 80? Loved the show, thank you for sharing your experience. Hope your having a wonderful weekend.
I don't know of any paint codes for the colors of the American series, other than meadow green of course. I know the wheels and other white parts are called New Idea Light Gray, and it does have just a tinge of gray in it. I think the dark gray was called New Idea Dark Gray or Coldwater Charcoal Gray. The silver was Argent Silver. I think these can all be bought through Agco, and their paint prices weren't too bad relatively speaking, for paint. Decals, I'm not sure. Try oliverdecals.com. If it isn't on the website, give them a call, Greg and Lisa are really helpful.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Thanks for the info Chris, have a good day!
Enjoyed the video
Thanks
I hadn’t ever noticed the screen in the side panels on the 2150’s before
They came from the factory with solid panels. There were issues with them running hot so Oliver sent out new sheet metal with perforations to help with cooling. I've only ever seen one tractor with an original non perforated side panel. There were also 2 versions of the perforated panels. One with holes only where needed, and another that was made entirely of perforated metal with solid panels behind to control air flow in the right spots.
good video, nice to review what we saw at show
Thanks! 👍
Great video showing what was there and well done presentation and explanations to these models! A little too far for me, otherwise I probably would have gone. Having these national shows in different states works well…it really brings out unique tractors from collectors not wanting to travel 1000 miles to show them. Great turnout!
I'm surprised there so few crawlers. When I went in 2016 there were quite a few.
IH made the 856 'Custom' for the economy market. They are currently in vogue, for whatever reason.
The Oliver Specials are too. It's something different that other guys don't have.
that is why the paint was good they painted them 3 times,My 1974 1655 you can see all the colors
A lot of knowledge you have find it very interesting
Thanks!
Some Oliver tractors have the front axle forward and some recessed, why.
They called that underslung axle the "short wheelbase adjustable wide front" The shorter wheelbase allowed for a tighter turning radius. It also made for rougher ride. It seems to be a love it or hate it option for Oliver Collectors.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris thank you. Late 70's my Father in law had a 1955 with the long wheel base, it was my favorite plowing tractor.
What denotes an industrial vs a farm tractor? Are serial numbers different? That 1900 in yellow is beautiful 😍
The serial numbers fall in with everything else, sequential. On 4 digit models the spec number after the dash was a 6 for 2wd and 9 for FWA. The ring and pinion was usually different because the industrials typically used shorter tires. If they had revers-o-torq, then there was no reverse gear in the rear end. Typically no hydraulics or 3 point, no pto, a special front frame, heavy duty drawbar, reinforced axles, and lots of weights. It depends on the model on what was beefed up. The 1900 was built pretty tough and didn't get as many changes as a 1600. The basics are the same and they can be converted back to ag with enough parts and labor.
Oliver were green in US ,But Cockshutts were Canada they were tan red in the 70's they were red .
thank for show tractors video
Was the 2-150 basically an updated G-1355 or was there a tractor in between? I know both had the 585 Moline engine with an Over/Under.
P.S. The Cockshutt 1350 was a Minnie Mo Jet Star 3. Can't remember if it was the original Jet Star 3 or if it was the Jet Star 3 Super.
Someone else said that it was the Jet Star 3 Super. That's a mouthful. 😂
I'm not aware of any model that came between the G1355 and the 2-150.
Imagine if White had stayed in the "truck/forklift" business... Oliver, Cockshutt and MM would most likely still be in production today. I've always loved the Oliver 2255's, especially the FWA's.
Chris, would you happen to know the MM model that was roughly 60hp - 70hp that started with the "M" letter? We had one that was converted to LP and I can't remember the model number on it. Was a solid tractor, when it ran. My dad didn't know much about it so, it was usually broke down more than it ran.
Video was very informative, love these. Great video as always, cheers :)
I'm not up enough on Minnie Mo tractors to help you there. There's a TH-cam channel called Moline Dan, I bet he could help.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris He was my next step lol. Thanks.
they were the same all the same tractor. but not in the Goodison olivers .got 2 77's and a 550
I wanted to go to this but my girlfriend and I were in Vermont. Now I’m really disappointed we didn’t go!
An excellent show, and the weather turned out better than forecasted.
Good morning 🌞 Chris. Great video ❤. There was an 55 series Oliver at video time mark 4:28. That has two mufflers on. Can you explain more Please 😊. I never seen one. Thank You for all the work you do 😅
Thanks! I have a video of the owner explaining it. It's an interesting story. Look for it in the next couple days.
Hi Chris, really enjoyed the walk about, thank you. So there were no narrow fronts used in Europe but I noticed a few single wheel narrows, some more modern than others. Was there any reason or significance to having a single wheel v double wheel narrow’s Thanks Alastair
The single front wheel was popular with produce farmers. My guess would be less damage to the crops with a single wheel. The other advantage is produce gets harvested when it's ready, not when the field is ready. The dual narrow front likes to pick up mud in wet conditions. They offered a scraper to go in there, but a single front wouldn't have that pinch area to pick up so much in the first place.
16:22 o hat G 940 is my cousins
Cool!
Very nice
Thanks
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Thanks!
Excellent video. Very informative as usual. I didnt know this event existed. Im two hours east of this event. Do you go every year. Hope you keep these great videos coming. Thanks
The pageant of steam happens every year, but they feature a different brand each year. The Hart Parr Oliver Collectors Association has a summer show every year, but it moves around to a show that is featuring Oliver. Next year will be near Boonville, Missouri.
Allis Chalmers and Oliver's were probably the best tractors ever made, but international and John Deere is all we have left, beautiful tractors, unfortunately they slowly went to the way side
Proof that you can have a great product, but without good management it can still fail.
I’m looking for a 1750 or 1755 right now my grandpa had a 1760 he bought brand new it got sold at a auction 16 years ago I’m 15 now and hope to find one for a good price
Do you know the serial number or any identifying features? It would be awesome if you could find his tractor.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris i don’t know the fag number but he had a 1365 and 1750 the 1750 had fuel tank fenders and a wide front and from the pictures I have it had a straight pipe and a planter console on the dash and a M&W turbo
Was there any hydraulic front wheel assists there?
Not that I saw.
That Wards Twin Row sure looks like Avery.
I think they were the same machine, but I could be wrong.
I’d pay money for that 545! The only thing I can find around here is Wheatland combines. I want something I can combine corns and beans with without committing a wheatland combine crime!!!!
Great to see these, which country?
This was in upstate New York, USA
1655 oliver gas wide front with a cab on auction next week, don't know if I want to tease myself or stay home, i don't have a lot of money to spend but these are usually about $5000 in my area, but some bring big money and who knows why
It's weird how sometimes they go nuts on the price. All it takes is 2 bidders that don't want to lose.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris it should be a $5000 tractor but you never know, could sell between $3500-$8000
Are there no 2655's around in that area? The best part of them were the cabs.
There was one at this show in 2016. It had been repowered with a Cummins.
We’re the specials a economy model
Yes. There was also a 550 Special, but I haven't found much info on those
@@ThatOliverGuyChris my boss has got a Oliver 550 special and it’s a piece of junk I like the 1365 better
You don’t seem too like the 880,770, you walk right by them
An oversight on my part. The 770 and 880 are great tractors.
clover white
Was there any Oliver HG's there?
There was one that I saw.
Price?
Peruvian distribuitor
Hello sir, once again come to Pakistan and talk to the Pakistanis. Tractors have to be contacted like this. This has become our Pakistan. Sir, they should go again and give training sir.
The man that does my soil testing is from Pakistan and his family still farms there. It's always interesting to hear how farming is done there compared to here.