Console1 Fader IN-DEPTH: The best multi-fader controller for Cubase?
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One more highly requested video! On this one I show you the ins and outs of the Softube Console1 Fader in Cubase :)
Console 1 Video
00:00 Intro
01:57 Build Quality
02:34 Cubase Integration
07:37 Assignable Buttons
09:15 Controlling your sends
10:22 Automating your sends
11:48 The Console1 Fader “sound”
12:24 Adding Drive to drums and synths
15:51 The Width Control
17:35 Layer Mode
19:28 The sound of the Filters
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Awesome review Dom! Great sound examples, smooth editing, and entertaining too! Thanks for always providing top notch content!
Nice to see you covering this
Another really good review Dom! wow very impressed with this toy... I like a lot how you can control sends, automation and having low - high cut filters is super useful! I think I've found my Christmas gift :)
Also gainstaging is particularly fast and intuitive. Love it!
You just sold it to me! Jokes aside, this is the fader controller I have been looking for for years. This was a long time coming, thank you for the in-depth review Dom!
Great review! hey mand, your happiness about your craft is priceless here: @16:15
Dude, you are ONE Happy guy, its contagious!!!
sold... already got the console 1 and it's the centre of everything. thanks for the video!
Great video Dom! Thanks !!! I got one to my loneley Steinberg CC121. Now I´m waiting for the Loopedeck CT video from You.
So detailed video from super Dom! You don't need a manual when you have Dom!
Fantastico! Io ho il console1 e sto pensando a prendere il fader. Bellissimo!
That smile throughout the video genuine happiness
Apart from the great video, this is an amazing song Dom!!!
16:18 Dom, you look like a young kid with a new toy! 😁 Awesome reviews man. Thanks!
haaaaa he was IN THE ZOOOONNNEEE!!!!
Can’t wait :)
Wow the fact it hooks up to the CC1 like that is incredible
Can't say enough about having the right control surface. I was, and still do in other studio, using an X-touch. I switched to Studio One Pro when I got a killer deal on a Studio Live 16 series 3. I am loving having true integration between DAW and control. It now reminds me more of my VS Rolands I used for years, and that's a good thing!.
Good job man!
Thank you!!! I will buy that exact duo setup.
Awesome!!!
When I decided to come back to music after an 18yr break I had very specific goals in mind. After some hours of videos I picked up FL Studio 20 and I really do enjoy working with it. However... there is no real native controller support from what I've found. Third party stuff isn't very abundant.
However, your channel has peaked my interest now in Cuebase and now that I've seen their song arranger and their song constructor... yea, I might be switching.
Thanks for your excitement and the information you bring. It's much appreciated. Subscribed.
Awesome video!!! Thank you!!!
Nice one and I like that song
@Dom - my favorite option for putting desktop tools at an angle is the Elevation Lab Draft Table iPad stand. I've got three or four of them in my studio holding up fader controllers, iPads, and anything else that needs an angle.
Thanks Dom - your opinion (or even a proper comparative review) of the SSL UF8 vs Console 1 Fader for Cubase users would be really helpful!
Man, I sure need to get my hands on that piece of art. I own an AKAI MPK 261 with faders, but it is driving me crazy, every time there's a problem.
Following the tracks and automatically switching bank is a VERY nice feature. My Faderport 8 doesn't do that. But it can switch to midi cc mode which I extensively use. The perfect controller doesn't exist yet. We'll get there eventually. Nice review btw .
Yes, indeed a CC mode would be so nice with the Fader. I do a lot of orchestral arranging and this is important for me. I used to use a small QCon Platform M but in the end I ran out of space. That being said, I’ve set up the Komplete Kontrol in CC mode to work nicely for CC1, CC11 and other controllers. But I am still on the hunt for the ultimate “film composer” controller ;)
Perhaps the MasterFader Pro by JL cooper will do the job for CC's
THX!
ive been looking for a great control surface and i just found it
I love the Mackie control
Respect to MCU! It has served us all well for ages ! :)
Dom, a REQUEST! Any chance you'd make videos on (1) Recording in Cubase with your Sub 37 ... using midi and audio tracks; and (2) the best way to A/B both stock and 3rd party plugins in Cubase so the volume does NOT change and you don't fool yourself into liking changes just because you think they're louder. So simple but have not figured out how to be consistent and quick with this. Thanks, man - I'm so digging your channel.
It's got a great look to it. I'm curious if anyone who has this gets annoyed that there isnt a screen strip at the top with track names. I just feel like I'd hate glancing up and down a bunch to make sure I'm about to grab the right fader.
Sissy 121 😅 sorry, couldnt resist. Great video 👍🏻
I want those now! Great video. I liked and subscribed. Which controller should I get first?
You are superve.👍
Great musician...great salesman.
Per your request - Yes, this is the controller for me. (Both, actually:) Thanks for the review.
Hello Dom. I have the CC121 and I love it. I also got recently the SSL UC1. I might be tempted in the near future for a SSL UF8. What's your opinion about it ? And since you are a Steinberg Ambassador, do you know if in the near future Steinberg could launch a product as good as the CC121 with more faders ? That would be awesome ! Thank you Dom for your videos
.. as usual awesome review , == and I have been waiting for ya to do this one. Hey, who is the artist singing vocals in the track you are featuring/demoing with [ initials JK by any chance?]
Man, I've been wanting that softube console for a while now, but more importantly.... where is that hoodie from?😮😄👍
Best review so far! You give us a quick glance on why is mixing with fingers so much intuitive :D
I have a Panorama P4 which is great. I've been looking for an excuse to get a Native instruments S88. You've just given me an excuse - and potentially cost me £1700. Thanks pal!
Serious question - Dom, I have used CC121 for years now, Cubase user. I recently installed the console 1 Fader, however it does not link with the CC121. I need the CC121 fader to keep volumes normalized, and the Console 1 Fader is totally separate entity. It controls volume SEPERATELY from the CC121, where in your video the two are connected (faders are linked). Can you point me in the right direction here? As currently, I need to have all CC121 volumes normalized, and then use Console 1 Fader as separate controller, not ideal.
As a side note, your videos are impressive, helpful, inspiring. I struggle as a cubase user due to lack of thorough tutorials out there, and you are my number one teacher for the fine details of cubase. Thank you for all the lessons!
Hi Dom, great video. Inspired me to also buy this combination of the CC121 and Fader. It would, however, greatly improve the workflow if one could directly jump to a specific track in cubase (e.g., track 82) without having the push the Page/Channel select buttons many times. Any thoughts on this? As far as I know this is not possible with key commands, macros, generic control? Thanks
take my money! i need this with my cc121!
Dom , exellent as usual , but why not Avid artist with cubase since the eucon protocole is supported in cubase ?
As always great! Is it CPU intense? Thx!
please please please make a console 1 review! wanna see all the features dom style!
Hi Dom when you do a review on Behringer Wing?
It bodes well as a console/controller mixer
Thank you very much!
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I have console 1 and love it. . . Not sure about fader just yet (had a behringer bcf2000) 'and just never found myself using it often. How are the transport controls - you mentioned you can select the features - so it can go ff and reverse - and not just ff/r to the markers?
Great review
Hmmm I haven’t checked this specific option as I I use the CC121 for transport but I will check! :)
Btw GREAT MUISIC!
Thank you Rauno!
Thank you Rauno!
Love the modern talking style... omg 80's flashback. so question, can you control the fader of a track if you don't insert the plugin?
Dom, is this console 1 fader useful as summing device with those character and drive functions? For example put the plug-in only on the different busses and put them thru the console 1 fader to print them back into cubase?
Thanks Dom, for this review. I have been using Xtouch for sometime and waiting to change to something better. This looks like this is it. Always look forward to you post's. Question can the steinberg fader become a master fader for all? Thanks.
Hey Stephen, this is a different level and the integration is really what changes everything- You mean to control all the faders with the CC121? :)
To change the overall volume
Hello Stephen. When you say you are looking for something better than the X-Touch, what issues have you run across with it that have interested you in the C1F?
Great video and merry christmas to you as I'm writing this on christmas day!
Your video is definitely making me re-consider if I should get a C1 Fader or not. I am already a very happy Console 1 user, and I would like a multi fader setup as well. However, my issue that is holding me back is that Console 1 wont work with VCA faders in Cubase, and I wonder if you have ran into any issues, annoyances, getting slowed down by the fact that you can't control your VCA faders with Console 1?
I bought a Behringer X-Touch One as my single fader controller to kind of get around this, as mackie control lets me control my VCA faders. However, as you pointed out, the banking is quite annoying with mackie control.
Any comments about this to help me spend money on a fader? :D
Do you just get by the VCA fader "issue" by using CC121 for stuff like that, and C1 Fader for the rest? (I know you can do the grouping of tracks on fader to get vca control that way, but I *really* like using my VCA faders in Cubase, and I am not one to compromise on excellent features like that in Cubase).
Thanks for great content!
Very good question! No I didn’t feel like I was missing out. First I can use the CC121 and secondly, the layers in Fader are really cool- you can do nice rides using its own VCA system. But if you don’t feel comfortable with that, there’s always the CC121 for this :) see what’s more important for you: VCAs or bank follow :)
@@DomSigalas Thanks for the reply! I did actually get my Console 1 Fader this week, and I'm very happy with it. I keep my mackie controller for the vcas I think for now, or at least until Steinberg potentially makes a surprise update to the CC121 hah.
I agree the layers are incredibly useful on C1, but I guess my issue is you can't actually record that fader movement as you can with VCA Faders, and then record the affected tracks separately. But anyway, this is a luxury question by now as this works so well already. (Also lack of auto banking drives me crazy by now, but I live with it in hopes Steinberg makes it switch automatically like Logic does).
Hey Dom
Thx Dom for SO many eye openers and tips. Just awesome!
Question: I get stressed out by the jumping faders on a console. Is there any way I can connect an iPad and just use the touch screen on that?
Keep up your good work, plz :)
You can connect an iPad to your computer and use it as a second screen, but it loses its touch functionality and acts like a regular computer monitor (kind of dumb, I know). However, ASUS is coming out with a 14" 32:9 monitor at the end of September that also has a touch screen capability. It's a long narrow monitor that fits under your main monitor and looks like the perfect size to have your mix window and faders; I'm going to wait until reviews come out and hopefully it lives up to the hype
@@MaidenOfMusic Thx Summer, excellent answer. I'll w8 4 it :)
I had to return two different units unfortunately, both of them had buttons that would get stuck and get the software out of sync. Really unfortunate
They lost me at the plug-in on every track. Just sounds like a patch up solution to me. Not to mention I am tired of programming stuff for ever only to find out it’s not all that. I’m going back to making music. Lol.
Question: I use both the console 1 and the console 1 faders with Cubase 11 pro. I love them and the sound I get running tracks thru to glue the mix etc...but after watching this video I tried doing more things like some basic panning but with my mono tracks of vocals and other tracks I can't pan them within the console faders..I like placing Vox in different places in the spread but what am I missing here? I feel its a basic thing Im overlooking. Any idea? I also cannot get the sends to be controlled within the console 1 faders sends to add or subtract the fx. not sure what I am missing here. Thank you.
Do you really need to load the plugin into every channel only to be able to use the DAW's native fader/solo/mute functions? Or is the plugin only necessary if you're using the additional functionalities of the Softube software?
i see you dedicated with cubase..wasup with the E licensor? i have to have a physical one if i pay for the software online meaning i still have to wait for it in the mail to use it?
Has anyone used both the Console 1 Fader and the Behringer X-Touch with Cubase that can talk about differences between them? I don't get to try anything before buying. I used to consider the CC121 but I want more than one fader.
just bought one.. thanks for killing my Christmas budget..lol
😂😂😍
Enjoy my friend!
Is there maybe a technical limitation preventing Console 1 Fader from supporting VCA spills? Is it maybe that only controllers supporting EUCON protocol can implement VCA spills? Otherwise maybe Softube would add VCA spills in a future update...
Don you should make a video of the best Lunchpad for Cubase, I don’t find many information of really good lunchpad that are full integrated with Cubase. I know that exist maschine but is a little expensive 😅😂
I will when I get my hands on it. I don’t have access to this unit at the moment :)
Hey Dom! Do you remember how many packs of Sugru used to create the foot? Do you have two feet or only one? It would help me immensely! Thanks!
Aaah I’m pretty sure I used two. I mixed a white and a black. I created one foot, the other side is being held by the CC121 nicely. But feel free to experiment 😊
Hi Dom today I bought console fader for Cubase but how can I make the midi Channel work everything works fine except the midi channels I can't load the console plugin into the midi track
I hope you can help me. Thanks for all your great video,s.
Hi, that jump of following channel in min. 7:00 works same without CC121 control? Because that Beautiful CC121 is Discontinued for México and i just can find Softube Console1... Thanks.
Any chance the banks recognize what tracks are visible? For example, if I have just my drum tracks visible, will the 1st of those tracks align with the 1st fader despite whatever number track it is overall?
Hello Dom!
I am very interested in using a daw controller for automation. A friend lent me his Presonus Faderport V2 Desktop Controller but the rides are not in time with what I hear. I think this is because the project`s overall latency created by all the plugins in it (and other factors).
Do you had the same problem?
Could you solve it?
Is the input gain the input gain of the Softcube channel strip plugin or the input gain of the Cubase channel in which the Softcube channel strip plugin lives?
Hi Dom, after 8 months, are you still using Console Fader ? I got it along with C1, but the lack of Led strips make it difficult to see what track you're controlling,. So I'm using this C1 Fader less and less. How about you ?
Nice device; I like when companies make stuff that integrate without me going into settings and assign manually every button. What I do not like is that I need to have 20 different devices to control different things in a software. One example is the mixer, which works as mixer, unless you "repurpose it" as something else, by manually setting up everything. Not sure why nobody make a single device that you can seamlessly integrate in your DAW, and that works in different ways, based on the usage you have in mind.
For example, move from a mixer to a VST controller, to a pad controller, to a filter/effects controller. Instead I am forced to either buy 4 different devices, each with its own quirks and setup to do, or to to spend hours and hours searching how to set up fewer devices, with the risk of missing creativity because I have to fiddle with a device, instead of actually getting music down on the software.
Awesome the "kill 2 birds on one stone", I like this version better :)
How about those icon q on things? It's not a drum machine or a keyboard. But as a mixer you can use it for whatever you want. With the software you already bought. Or stock plugins. You have motor faders and it's cheaper than the soft tube console.
Icon qcon (mobile phone auto correction) you need to set it up though.
And I am talking about the old Grey icon qcon pro. Not the new one
Hi Dom! Will the Console 1 also control CC for Midi recording? Thanks!
Please tell me how to make this setting.
I bought an Icon Platform M+ due to another of your videos recommendation... Well, that unit is lacking quite a lot on some aspects. I am reluctant to get a Console 1 Fader now
Hi Jose, I have been using the Platform M until recently actually. The QCons are amazing controllers and they were pretty much the best option but the Mackie Control bank selection issue has always been bothering me and I brought it up with the QCon guys who are really nice people. However the QCons are DAW agnostic - Console1 offers tight integration in Cubase because it’s designed to do that. This doesn’t make the QCons bad controllers but for my workflow I appreciate the tight integration in Cubase. :)
lacking, hehe. Ok..
Dom, how well does it work as a stand alone, without the cc 121?
Hey Dom, does this have MIDI CC control so i can control plugins? if so does this also allow me to control the Fader Console 1 with hardware synths ect?
I was looking at the icon m+ and that requires a restart to change between daw control and plugin mode
one last thing, do you need to add the plugin onto an instrument track if you're only using it for plugin control?
Another question.
Does Console1 Fader also support Cubase MIDI tracks?
Hi do you know if I can use the 1 Fader console with a SAMPLITUDE PRO X5 SUITE DAW?
Thank you.
Hey man, can you share your Cubase preference file? :) colours too?
The Colours are just the different shades palettes included in Cubase 10.5 or Cubase 11 ;)
Did... you... just... sell... this... to... me??? :D
hahahaha! The unedited video was 45 min long- imagine! :)
BOOM...
great video man ! can i use the faders as modwheel and expression for orchestral work?
Very good question! I don’t think that’s possible because the controller doesn’t work as a CC controller. It would be amazing if Softube opened this possibility though!
@@DomSigalas ah man. i'd have ordered it today if it worked. thanks btw ! love your videos !
I pop a Korg NanoKontrol 2 on my desk for CC control. Takes up no space and doesn't break the bank.
@@MoonhareStudio looks cool ! is it easy to define CC's ?
I have both Console1 Fader and CC121.
But I can't run Console1Fader like you.
How do I get Console1Fader to work as you do?
Where can I find out how to do it?
Do you post the total method on your homepage?
Please tell me how to do it. Please.
Mr Dorian Sigalas : I have a problem Can you help me? If you have the money for the CC121 or for will buy a softube What device do you choose? I have this Shakespeare doubt thanks for your reply
great song too is it out?
wenn i pull the feeder on 5 _10 the start to move crazy does some one know how to solve the problem ?
Hi Dom, Franz here in Miami..
Do this console works with Protools?
I am Protools Man..
I will appreciate your answer.
Thanks and merry Christmas I don’t
what about CPU if you add their plugin on every channel??
Hello Dom
Could you please describe a little more detailed the crucial workflow to jump between the different channels .... in different banks..
Youre example was channel 4 to 76, Minute 6.59 to 7.20 in the Video. The last step was to fast for me 😵😵😵
Thanks
Can Console 1 Fader control VCA fader channels in Cubase? Or can it only control audio channels? If it can control VCA faders in Cubase, then why to create layers in CF1? Better to just control the VCA fader in Cubase.
Hey Dom! Why is it that Console 1 MKII will not work on the left side of your CC121, while Fader 1 will work on the right side?
So why it is difficult to put it on the other side of the cc121?
So this is great for making 80’s euro pop ? Sold
Tempted. Can it control CC's when composing with key switches and Expression maps CCI CCII
No but this is a great idea! I hope Softube will implement this. I would definitely love that for controlling orchestral libraries!
@@DomSigalas If it had cc mode and could switch/toggle between modes on the fly whilst in Cubase that would be sweet indeed. Great channel Dom your presentation skills are A+. Thank you!!
Have you seen the mp midi controller touch screen?
Interested in this, my question is is there a delay when going up and down quickly with the faders ? that's my main concern, the presonus ones fader port etc was too much delay, you showed it in the videos but its hard to tell , thanks,
Not that I've noticed. All controllers use midi though so your overall system latency will have an impact on their performance.
@@DomSigalas thanks for the reply keep them amazing videos going
Great one again! But also a bit confusing. Three years ago you did a video about the Icon Platform M+: "The best compact controller for production" (back then it was 'doctor mix'). That video convinced my to buy the whole Platform serie just recently (Platform M+ & B+ and 2x X+).
But now there is this video about Console 1. Did I bought the wrong equipment?
Hi Gert! The QCon devices are amazing controllers. I even had a Platform M until recently. You definitely didn’t purchase the wrong equipment :) Now, having said that, back then there (which was indeed years ago!) was no dedicated multi-fader controller for Cubase. The Platform was indeed the best thing I had ever tried. For MY specific workflow I always felt that the Mackie Control protocol was slowing me down for the reasons I explained on this video (bank switch thing). The Fader solves this problem and makes me work faster. That doesn’t mean that the Platform is now a bad controller :) If this issue never bothered you then you definitely don’t need to switch. THe QCons have other pluses like the LCD screens for example but the Fader1 has tighter integration and it also has a sound ;) Hope this helps!
@@DomSigalas Great Dom, thank you very much! Deeply appreciated!
That's why I bought M+ and 2 X+, so I have 24 faders and very little bank switching. I also have the B+ with lots of Cubase-commands. AND I have a CC121 for transport and single track control! The extra sound of the Console is of course wonderful...
I just bought the Icon Platform's two weeks ago, so I'm still in my 60 days of return policy. After seeing your video I was thinking: 'should I send those Platform's back and order the Console in stead'...
@@gertkeunen2720 I would do the ultimate test. Try it on a busy mix and see how easy you learn it, how comfortable you are with it and how often you need to reach for the mouse :) Give it 3-4 days. If you feel that you reach for your mouse all the time for actions that the QCon should perform then it might be an indication that you need a more tight integration. QCon has many bells and whistles, it can control Inserts, EQs, plugins etc etc. But the real question is - do you think you will get used to it? :)
If the answer is yes, I would keep the QCon. If the answer is no - get a couple of Console1 Faders and stack them. It’s a more streamlined workflow with less bells and whistles but much tighter integration with Cubase.
FYI, back in the day I had a chat with the QCon guys (who are lovely people) about the bank thing and they said that it’s a limitation of the Mackie Control protocol. I hoped that there would be a way around it but it never happened. But I understand, they are focused on the hardware and they are DAW agnostic.
Good luck and let me know what you decided :)
@@DomSigalas I'll do! Thanks for your help!
@@DomSigalas Well, I wrote a long answer after testing (I stick with the Icon...), but I can't copy this text here. A pity, I would like to share my thoughts though.
Can you also use the faders to control instruments / effects ?
Not for now :)
The following is because you said you were a gear geek.
Have you tried using an iPad as a controller and sound module? There are apps that are designed to control external gear. My fave is MIDI Designer, that you can use to design your own interface, as complex as you want. It's a geek's dream app. Another very cool gadget for a guy like you is called the PUC+. Imagine that you have a fantastic controller that is NOT Bluetooth. Take the cable that you would connect to the computer into the PUC+ and then pair the PUC+ with the Bluetooth of your computer. And then you have a Bluetooth controller. Actually you can leave the PUC+ always plugged into the controller and use it as a Bluetooth controller to pair with any Bluetooth compatible synth or whatever. Or let the PUC+ be always paired with the computer or iPad or anything that accepts Bluetooth MIDI. Then you can swap out controllers by changing which controller is plugged into the PUC+. So if you become a Wireless lover, no need to spend money on all new controllers, just get a PUC+ for the number of simultaneous controllers you use. Once you have them, you can save a ton of money by buying used wired controllers instead of the $$$$ wireless ones. And the PUC+ works perfectly and is very reliable, solid. It stays connected and is hard to break. It's made of thick plastic. Shit, I just realized that I sound like I am advertising a product. That's just because I am excited about some thing that gives me so much fun and is so convenient. Ok, enough of that. Thanks for your video. You make very easy to understand videos.you speak perfect English but insensé an accent that i don't know. What is your first language? I travelled a lot when I was much younger and tended to take the accents of anyone I met on the road. So when I came home, my friends laughed, saying that I sound like English is not my first language. Have fun, Dom. Oh yeah, I don't have Cubase. I use Live by Ableton and Reaper. My fave synth plugins are Serum and Falcon 2. Hahaha. Funny because it's not true. I love so many synths but those are the ones I know best