Powder measure comparison Hornady LNL vs Lee Perfect Powder Measure

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  • @hardybirch3630
    @hardybirch3630 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Your experience with the Hornady powder measure is the polar opposite to my experience. After watching your video I headed for my loading room and did a bunch of accuracy tests on my Hornady powder measure. I used an additional electronic scale and a balance beam scale to corroborate the results and found it to be repeatable and accurate to within 0.1 gr when weighing charges from 4 gr to 25 gr. My Hornady is accurate, repeatable and very reliable. I agree with you that the Lee measure is accurate but, try metering H110 and you will have spilled powder all over your workbench........not so with the Hornady. Give Hornady a call to get things sorted out because you have a really good powder measure that will give you years of reliable service. Best wishes and thanks for the video.

    • @mafirearmsafety
      @mafirearmsafety 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hardy Birch I don’t think he cleaned it with degreaser first, mine gives accurate charges

    • @BorgesyAlvarez
      @BorgesyAlvarez ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mafirearmsafety Read the description of the video. Regards.

    • @waterishdrake8693
      @waterishdrake8693 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A Hornady employee is here 😂

  • @mafirearmsafety
    @mafirearmsafety 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I have very accurate measurements with my Hornady, I was wondering, when you got the Hornady dispenser, did you take it apart and degrease it? It has a coating that keeps it from rusting, if you did not clean it the powder will never be consistent. Did you clean it first?

    • @2pugman
      @2pugman ปีที่แล้ว

      Does he have the correct drum in place. My dispenser is always exact.

  • @jaybailleaux630
    @jaybailleaux630 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That is how Lee is. Most bang for the buck. I own most all the brands of reloading tools . No single manufacturer of ammo reloading tools makes the best of everything but Lee has satisfied me the most.

  • @blueridgeboy6791
    @blueridgeboy6791 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Saw what I needed to see. Hope all is well up in Canada right now. Thankyou for the video sir.

  • @firegrunt03
    @firegrunt03 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    thanks for saving me money. Lee for the win!!
    update! Lee is still great for the price. however ball & Flat flaky powders will leak some. stick powders are good to go

  • @mikemyers8538
    @mikemyers8538 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just received my Hornady L&L measure today. I purchased it for the same reason of My Lee measure leaking fine spherical powders all over my bench with the added frustration of it binding like crazy. Works great for H4895 and Varget (extruded powders) though. Just set the Hornady up tonight and dialed it in with CFE BLK at a random amount of 11.5 grains. It threw 11.5 grains 10 times in a row, but I'm using the pistol rotor set. I like my Lee measure, but it just doesn't work well for H110, CFE BLK or Accurate #5.

  • @firebladeflow
    @firebladeflow 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    shocking, thank you ver much for this comparison! I can confirm that the lee perf powder measure is pretty much spot on. I was able to speed load 308 by simply putting the case directly below the Powder measure and dispensing straight to the case (308 case is pretty much full, so a quick optical verification of the powder amount is sufficient).

  • @franklaufkoetter2133
    @franklaufkoetter2133 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey, I came to the same result. After using Lee for a while, I bought the Hornady and was very disapointed.
    I cleaned and degreased it, but it is clearly inferior to Lee.

  • @cheech101st
    @cheech101st 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree with you 100%. I have a Hornady LNL AP press and I now use the Lee Auto Drum powder measure with it. I don't even use the Hornady Powder measure that came with the press. I also have the Lee Perfect Powder measure and it also is very accurate. Very happy with both.

  • @tommykawasaki9676
    @tommykawasaki9676 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Same exact story at my bench.
    My Lee feels like a Rubbermaid product. But throws spot on always.
    I returned the Lock & Load measure.
    Couldn’t throw the same charge twice.
    I love Hornady as a company.
    I can’t say enough good things about them.
    Their products & customer service are outstanding. They just don’t make a great powder throw.

    • @tommykawasaki9676
      @tommykawasaki9676 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@skyflyr1015
      Yes.
      You really have no choice but to degrease these. They are very well oiled from the factory to keep them corrosion free during shipping & sitting on a store shelf.
      It truly is evident that they must be degreased. It gets all over your fingers.

  • @ARPatriot1776Official
    @ARPatriot1776Official 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like Hornady powder measures, use to have one. Hope to get another one. Good topic. I had good accuracy with Hornady.

  • @Scott-dl1ui
    @Scott-dl1ui 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't keep CFE black from spilling out around the drum on the Lee. If you tighten up the screw it doesn't dispense properly. It needs an o-ring and a return spring, or something like that

  • @bwoodward0012
    @bwoodward0012 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have no problems with mine. If it varies at all it’s only .1 grains, but generally after throwing 3-4 times post adjusting the charge weight it will throw perfectly consistent for me. I originally cleaned it with bore solvent and then sprayed it with rem dry lube and wiped it down and it was fine. Since I’m in a garage I get some moisture in the air so every so often now I’ll spray it with one shot gun cleaner and lube and wipe it down and I have no issues. It takes all of 5 min to break it down, spray/ wipe it, and put it back together, that’s negligible in terms of how much time I spend with reloading and it’s components, at least in my opinion.

  • @phillhuddleston9445
    @phillhuddleston9445 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder if the baffle is causing the problem?

  • @deezel2826
    @deezel2826 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for this. I think I will stick with my "cheap" Lee for now as it is VERY repeatable.

  • @Randy_84
    @Randy_84 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting situation, mine is +/- .5 - .7.. I'd reach out to Hornady, something might be off with yours.

  • @rooster3019
    @rooster3019 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you thoroughly clean the Hornady product before use. They have a sticky metal protection all over the innards. The Lee product may need anti-static cloth wipe on occasion.

  • @skeet25s
    @skeet25s 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for taking the time to do this. After watching I ran my own testing on this powder measure, that I have not used but a few times, because I use mostly Lee products. At first I was getting the same bad results as you were, maybe worse. I tore the thing apart and cleaned it very well. Then I sprayed and wiped the drum and housing with some remington dry-lube that I've had for probably 30 years. After that the powders metered equal with my lee powder measures. I tested with titegroup, hp-38, and universal. The latter two were best. I burned out before I got to the Varget. I think this measure is more susceptible to powder sticking to various places, than the plastic Lee parts are. I'm pretty sure I get the best results from my trusty old Lee pro disk measure, but I can't fine tune the charges on that. I have to settle with what the closest disk gets me. I literally hate my Lee auto-drum, which I think is just a lemon (or my extreme ADD has kept me from figuring out how to set it up correctly), because other people have good luck with it.

    • @tacpreppers4906
      @tacpreppers4906  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for commenting, i actually use the Lee pro disk, shown at 1:40 of the vid, with the micrometer for all my pistol loads and just use the auto-drum for 5.56 and 300 blackout, works like a charm and super accurate. I've since retired the Hornady powder measure, I just have no confidence in it... the way it cuts extruded powder (with a grind / crunch) and the varying throws, along with the fact that you have to clean off a bunch of caked on anticorrosion grease before you can use it, etc. However, if you're throws are somewhere in the mid range of the selected insert, and using spherical powders, the Hornady performs reasonably well (0.3 grain variance on average per my tests), but next to the Lee products, at less than half the price, it's a no brainer...plus, the Lee powder measures don't rust if you happen to have the slightest humidity in the air! cheers

    • @skeet25s
      @skeet25s 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tacpreppers4906 Does that micrometer work well using 4-5 grains? I often ponder buying that, but the reviews are always less than stellar. I never know when to trust reviews.

    • @tacpreppers4906
      @tacpreppers4906  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@skeet25s I use it for all my competition loads (IPSC),. 9mm and 45, using TiteGroup and CFE Pistol, 3.5Gr to 5.6Gr loads,. I used to weigh every other charge but found that it's so amazingly consistent, that i now only weigh random throws and, like i said, never lets me down. Keep the hopper at least 1/3 full and it'll make your reloading a breeze and give you confidence in your loads. Cheers

    • @skeet25s
      @skeet25s 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tacpreppers4906 Thanks

  • @michael240783
    @michael240783 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    mine is exactly the same. glad I'm not the only one

  • @miketlane
    @miketlane 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    that little plastic lee works just fine for big grain powder. but accuite9 or H110 tiny BB powder ....nope that starts coming out the sides and gets everywhere. i used the crap out of it loading 308s but my 44 mag and h110 i hand scoop. im hoping one of the better made metal ones will handle the fine powders.

  • @jamespollard1670
    @jamespollard1670 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Did you clean the measure internally with alcohol to remove the factory lube before using ?

  • @vikingnorm6935
    @vikingnorm6935 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love my perfect powder measure, I also bought the Deluxe perfect powder throw & the quick change things, didn’t try it out yet

  • @rainbow2710
    @rainbow2710 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you, you just saved me a few hundred $$$. I'm setting up another reloading station, and I guess i'll stick to my Lee products. Cheers.

  • @CoachKalu
    @CoachKalu 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really want the Hornady L&L to throw accurate measures constantly. The Lee is a great value, but looks and feels like a cheap toy replica of a powder measure. I am going to purchase the Hornady L&L and test it for myself. Lee also makes a Deluxe model that appears to be a more quality build. I will have to purchase and test the Lee Deluxe Powder Perfect as well.

  • @jeffmustangfish
    @jeffmustangfish 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the Hornady and lee. I don’t use the baffle in the hornady and get super accurate loads with hp38, cfe pistol, and other powders. The lee is fine except when using w296.

  • @richg7952
    @richg7952 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just curious……….are you using the rifle drum or pistol drum? Using the rifle drum for small amounts of powder does not work.

    • @tacpreppers4906
      @tacpreppers4906  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I tried them both. The charge of 21.5 grains of CFE Blk is such that it's almost the max with the pistol and too little for the rifle drum. Stuck with the LEE, happy I did. Thanks for watching

  • @codyadams5586
    @codyadams5586 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not a lemon and 5 yrs later they still suck! I've got lots of Hornady stuff and love most of it but purchased an lnl kit awhile back and the powder measurer was so bad that I never felt comfortable using without weighing every charge... Sold it and I've got a couple lee's and a rcbs charge master that I use now

  • @dynapez
    @dynapez 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    before using the hornady, u have to completely dissassemble and degrease as per instructions or u wont get a consistent charge. it comes lubed with grease for shipping and if you dont clean it properly the powder will stick to the inner parts

    • @tacpreppers4906
      @tacpreppers4906  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I appreciate your comment, however, i did thoroughly clean and de-grease the entire thing before i used it. It was obvious it needed it as it was caked with grease. I understand why now, anything short of a good greasing would have resulted in rusted parts on arrival. I am wholesale disappointed with the unit, it's now sitting in a bin, rusting away. in short, this powder measure may be good at low or high power charges, but for those in-between charges, like the one in this video, where it's at the limit for either pistol insert on the high end , or rifle insert on the low end, this powder measure doesn't hold a candle to the LEE. The cheaper LEE is consistent across ALL loads, and is a quarter the price. Hec i opted for the cool, high-end look of the Hornady, expecting excellence, only to be completely let down... for my 300 blackout loads, at least, which led me to drop it flat out.

  • @tyemiller6204
    @tyemiller6204 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for taking the post. Was very helpful for me. Hopefully Hornaday will make things right to you. Again, thank you from Montana

  • @jojo123469
    @jojo123469 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a lee perfect measure years ago...It was accurate for the first year or so and then it just went all over the place, the lee is plastic. I now have owned a Hornady powder measure for many years and it is always accurate for me. Maybe you got a lemon. Another thing about any measure is we have to learn to be consistent on the strokes.....Canada

  • @alamofighter
    @alamofighter 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Try using more force in your stroke on the Hornady. I noticed your stroke is weak and inconsistent. Don't pause so long at the top of the upstroke.

  • @jamespollard3066
    @jamespollard3066 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had the reverse results . The Perfect measure was all over the place at throwing charges and my Hornady was within a tenth grain . I guess it is the luck of the draw with anything .

    • @willemkauffeld7679
      @willemkauffeld7679 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      it might also depend on powder. I noticed my Hornady is better with vectan ba10 (stick powder) and the lee perfect measure is better with vectan AS (flat big flack powder)

  • @michaelthiboutot7944
    @michaelthiboutot7944 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have lyman, hornady, and lee they all work great some are better with different powders than the others I like the hornady or lyman for stick powders but ball powders I've found the lee and lyman great

  • @kalaallstar19
    @kalaallstar19 ปีที่แล้ว

    this powder measure is easily accurate all day to withing 0.1 grains which is fine, wish it was more accurate than that but it is what it is. you need to full degrease it and fully tighten the part that attaches to the o ring. If you dont it wont be accurate.

  • @blacksand9805
    @blacksand9805 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello, as I see in background you also have the Hornady Auto Charge, do you find it faster than using the Lee Perfect Powder Measure ? I also have both but I didnt make the test. Thanks for your video it is very interesting !

  • @RF-cz4ln
    @RF-cz4ln ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video, thanks for sharing

  • @joselee8453
    @joselee8453 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this video. I thought it was just me. I experience the same issue.

  • @SABjork
    @SABjork 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Crap, I love my Lee PPM, but with fine flake powder, I noticed that it binds and makes a slight mess also. I just ordered the Hornady LnL powder measure for my rifle rounds (did not arrive yet) and noticed that the box says "Ideal for Extruded and Ball powders" Which, I guess means, not so much for fine flake powder like CFE Black and Pistol. I hope I have better luck with consistency, but now I am very skeptical and will be very attentive to precision. Great video and thank you. Your audio is a little muffled but the content is great!

  • @1966v8mustang
    @1966v8mustang 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wish I watch this video a few days ago mine is just as inaccurate at time it throwing more then gn off

  • @ML-df8sv
    @ML-df8sv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mines accurate you need to clean it. Had the same problem. If it starts to cut powder take it apart clean it

  • @svernwarunos546
    @svernwarunos546 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where did you the lee one from?

  • @genetyrney4159
    @genetyrney4159 ปีที่แล้ว

    My hornady is much the same. Three loads 3 different measurements.

  • @piecartbox
    @piecartbox 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks! I'll stick with my lee.

  • @DerekRC
    @DerekRC 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the video. I'll keep my Lee perfect powder measure👍👍

  • @xcaluber
    @xcaluber 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like I'll be sticking with me Lee :)

  • @pandoralechat780
    @pandoralechat780 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    RCBS.Powder measures are vital.

  • @alfonsorodriguez6437
    @alfonsorodriguez6437 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    It proves that inexpensive does not mean cheap and lacking in quality. How does Lee do it is a mystery to me but I am not complaining. I also find their pistol dies to be of excellent quality and lower in cost.

    • @willemkauffeld7679
      @willemkauffeld7679 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      the question is not how lee does it, it is way do we still let the other brands over charge us

  • @davejensen8882
    @davejensen8882 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    why not just put a small pan under the Lee to catch the small amount of leakage? You can also adjust it to cut down leakage although it probably won't eliminate all of it. It is just the fine powders that do it. I love my Lee stuff, 1/3 to 2/3 the cost of RCBS and works as well and in many cases better. I have an RCBS powder measure and hand primer that I replaced with Lee and the Lee is the more accurate powder dispenser and their hand primer is much better and easier to change from large to small rifle primers. Less money too.

  • @vomact1052
    @vomact1052 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your hornady powder baffle appears to be too low

  • @robertshinenne1584
    @robertshinenne1584 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Got my on a sale. Was a steal for the Hornady lNl. But it couldn’t keep constant charge what’s so ever, no matter what powder I use( titegroup, clay, or imr4198. ). Love the all steel material but I am buying a lee powder measure after this. Thanks for the video man. I should have watched this before even buying the lNl. Thanks.

    • @tacpreppers4906
      @tacpreppers4906  7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      As a follow up and thanks for the comment, i wanted to add that the all steel construction looks real nice when new, but if you don't take "extra" special care to keep everything oiled up and in a super-dry (dehumidified) env, the whole thing rusts to high hell, the shiny steel ends up looking like crap, pitted and rusted, so you need to keep the surfaces lubed when trying to run powder through the thing, makes no sense. I've since tossed the whole thing into the back-burner bin, may sandblast it all and KG-GunKote the whole thing, very disappointed

    • @gerrymatheson4020
      @gerrymatheson4020 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tacpreppers4906 I thought you were going to pack it up and return it. Did you end up keeping it...?

    • @tacpreppers4906
      @tacpreppers4906  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@gerrymatheson4020 I ended up keeping it, couldn't send it back... it's since become a paper weight as I just can't bring myself to mess with it anymore. I've since moved onto a progressive (loadmaster) with the Autodisk powder measure, works like a charm. May put a video together on that soon. Either way, stuck with Lee, cheaper and better. jmho

  • @danielefasone3705
    @danielefasone3705 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    E molto strano che ci sia questo problema , io ne possiedo uno uguale a funziona bene

  • @sigma02chi
    @sigma02chi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just saved me some money. Thank you

  • @kenlangille9050
    @kenlangille9050 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for info,I was thinking about hornady powder measure .I will keep using my lee

  • @dheebb3537
    @dheebb3537 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, did you clean the hornady as per instructions? cheers

    • @tacpreppers4906
      @tacpreppers4906  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I sure did. I also contacted Hornady, and their response was, throw more money at it, seems at 21.5 grains of CFE Blk, I'm at the very low limit of the rifle metering kit's ability to fill the cavity for consistent throws, so they suggested I use the pistol metering kit (another $50 CDN) and to my absolute dismay, the upper limit of the pistol kit is 19 grains before the insert completely backs out. All this to say, the thing set me back a total of 210 and I can't honestly see myself using this for any kind of 300 blk volume loading... will use it only for pistol workups, with a trickler standing by.

    • @dheebb3537
      @dheebb3537 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      TacPreppers Thanks very much for your reply. I was about to buy one for loading 223. I feel for you. That whole situation would be very frustrating. I will keep using dippers and a scale until I find a Lee powder measure in a shop here in Australia.

    • @tacpreppers4906
      @tacpreppers4906  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      No worries, however, you may be fine loading .223. I don't want to knock Hornady, but for 300 blackout, using around 21 grains of CFE blk, this powder measure is no good. If you're filling the rifle or pistol metering cavity with any significant amount of powder, you can expect a .2 grain variance which isn't so bad, just no good if you are at the limits of either. For the diff in price, wait for the Lee, hands down worth the wait, cheap and accurate .1 grain for me. cheers

  • @dougkahler7152
    @dougkahler7152 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1 thing I’ll tell you your not dwelling long enough to fill the drum on that Hornady.

  • @schofield0
    @schofield0 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    same results with a rcbs and perfect powder measure lee is best

  • @asterixky
    @asterixky 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks, I was going to make the swap from my beloved, but leaking, Lee to the Honardy.
    I am glad I watched your video. I am aware that some products have lemons, but taking that chance with Honardy's customer service, means NO.
    Until Honardy has a better customer support, I will ether keep the Lee or look at RCBS.

    • @TexF18
      @TexF18 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have never had a issue that hasn't been fixed right away even if it was my fault. Im in their home state of Nebraska tho

  • @pareloader5989
    @pareloader5989 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have always used LEE products and I love them. There inexpensive but get the job done. I can’t see spending hundreds of dollars on equipment that does the same and sometimes not quite as good of a job.

  • @daveyboy8907
    @daveyboy8907 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    ...Truth hurts and looks dont mean a thing....THank you

  • @pstewart5443
    @pstewart5443 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You didn't just get a lemon. I gave away all my Hornady scales and throws including their autocharge. Absolute junk.

  • @Alaska1969
    @Alaska1969 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Agree with you. Not impressed with Hornady.

  • @nansgunschannel8642
    @nansgunschannel8642 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Volumes low bro

    • @tacpreppers4906
      @tacpreppers4906  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, recorded it with my phone... crank it up. Thanks for watching, hope it helped.

    • @nansgunschannel8642
      @nansgunschannel8642 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No worries, better then no video.

  • @mikevollmer8418
    @mikevollmer8418 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This might have been a good review if I could have HEARD you. If you're going to do thise, don't whisper! Even with my volume all the way up, I could barely hear you!

  • @Soulman6969
    @Soulman6969 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can not own rifles in Canada now WTF

  • @colangelo24
    @colangelo24 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Had the same issue. What a crap product

  • @alanklein6910
    @alanklein6910 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't hear you. Waste of time.

    • @joearcuri3377
      @joearcuri3377 หลายเดือนก่อน

      try turning up the volume on your hearing aid... waste