This movie was a TRIP! I understand why it was one of the highest-recommended movies now. As always, thank you for watching! 00:00 Intro 01:14 Reaction 25:15 Outro/Discussion
@@thefearhawk8805 I accidentally saw a youtube short of django unchained and the woke mob found out somebody says the n word in that movie and beat me with sticks for watching it.
"I'm the dude playin' the dude, disguised as another dude." "Man, I don't drop character 'til I done the DVD commentary." RDJ f'cking *killed* this role.
Something she said made me think of something that Laurence Olivier said to Dustin Hoffman on the set of Marathon Man. Hoffman’s character was supposed to have been awake for like 3 days and so Hoffman being a method guy stayed awake for about that long. He kept messing up the scene which aggravated Olivier who was classically trained. He supposedly told Hoffman "My dear boy, why don't you just try acting?"
From the late 80's to mid 90's I always confused RDJ and Johnny Depp. For 20 years I had remembered Johnny Depp in _Weird Science_ and _Chaplin,_ which is strange, considering that I must've seen WS a dozen times as a kid.
The movies that Tropic Thunder is really parodying are Platoon, Apocalypse Now, and Rambo Part II. You should watch all of those. More broadly, Tropic Thunder is a parody of all of the cliches of Vietnam war movies.
There are definitely elements from those movies but I would argue that it's more of a parody/commentary on the movie industry rather than the actual content of war movies.
Tropic Thunder is one of the few movies that I would say is a perfect 10/10. Every single person in the cast is absolutely perfect. I'm glad you do talk about all of the actors briefly because I feel like Brandon T. Jackson and Jay Baruchel don't get enough credit in the movie since they're playing the straight men to everyone else's absurdity. I think what truly highlights how well written this movie is the fact that Robert Downey Jr. got nominated for his role. White actors being cast in ethnic roles has been a problem in Hollywood even in modern history. The fact that the movie was able to satirize it (Along with method acting) using the extremely touchy subject of blackface and do so so successfully that the portrayal is met with applause by both critics and audience is quite frankly amazing. I know a lot of people say "Oh this movie could never be made today", but this movie is only 15 years old. Blackface was not acceptable 15 years ago either. It's such a fine line to walk between proper satire, and being actually offensive, and this movie manages it perfectly.
I'm impressed at how you quickly 'got' what they were were doing, even though you hadn't seen many of the movies & memes they were parodying. This may be the most ...meta... movie I've seen. It's very self aware, and while they brutally send-up all these Hollywood clichés (which may be clichés for a reason), there is also a bit of empathy for all the characters, however outrageous they may be. I suspect the reason they got so many 'heavy hitters' in this is because everyone who saw the script recognized someone, or had similar experiences and really wanted to be a part of this self-aware spoof. I don't think anyone in this cast has done better work than they did here. Sure, many of their things are great, but Tropic Thunder is in a class by itself. Thanks for choosing this. It's always fun to see a familiar film with a first-timer. The reactions are priceless.I can also see why you want to watch it a few times. There's a LOT packed into this film, and the more you watch, the more you find. And on the subject of offensive stuff in older movies? Check out Mickey Rooney in Breakfast at Tiffany's. Most. Offensive. Role.. EVER! It was squirm-worthy at the time, but has only gotten worse with age.
Dude, I'm 30 and the first time I watched Tropic Thunder I was also oblivious to what TiVo was, I was either like: "what's TiVo?" Or "is that supposed to be a real thing?" It speaks more about the obsolescence of early 2000s and late 90s technology than anything else; everything tech related was so fleeting and early phased out that nothing like that really stuck.
Tom Cruise said in an interview that his only requirements to agree to do this character were, "I want fat hands, and I want to dance." For the record like he says in the movie, Robert Downey Jr actually does the DVD commentary as Lincoln Osiris.
Greatest DVD commentary EVER! In fact, the commentary alone is better than most films that come out these days! In even more fact... As much as I fucking LOVE this movie, the commentary might actually be equally funny!
@@TheHominidShow It's been remastered and both the director's cut and theatrical versions included on Blu-ray and 4K. I'm not certain, but pretty sure the commentary is carried over. The one to buy, if you never have.
tom cruise made up the grossman character out of thin air. stiller had offered him the part played by matthew mcconoughy. his requirements to do the movie, were to play the character he made up, with fat hands, and to dance. it reads quite wrong the way you put it. its not like he was offered the part of grossman and had conditions on accepting that part. the part didnt exist.
People who call the first RDJ Sherlock movie inaccurate usually haven't actually read the books. That movie uses lines from the books in its dialogue and Sherlock being a decent fighter when he needs to be is part of the character.
“Why can’t these actors just…act” is almost exactly what Sir Lawrence Olivier said to Dustin Hoffman on the set of Marathon Man. His exact words after Dustin was doing his method stuff were “try acting”.
This was genuinely the oddest reaction I've watched in ages. I don't think I've ever seen a reactor sit through an entire film and not understand any of it. Awesome! 🤣🤣🤣
She obviously didn't know this was a satire of several famous war movies. It's always hard to understand satires if you aren't familiar with the source material.
On the Vietnam tropes and stuff yeah fairplay but not catching that JB's character was off his tits on Charlie or RDJ was black facing it through most of the movie...really??
Ben Stiller was in Zoolander (1 & 2 ) and Meet the Parents (2000 ) and There's Something About Mary (1998) . Robert Downey Jr in the MCU as Ironman (2008 )- and Sherlock Holmes (2009) Chaplin (1992) and Back to School (1986) . Those are movies you might want to check out.
Easily the #1 movie for RDJ is "Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang" (Obviously the MCU is pretty iconic, important, a massive lodestone of pop culture. But that's a lot; KKBB is just one movie.)
14:00 - He was watching an old episode of Star Trek. I can't remember the name of the episode, but if you can find the scene it's absolutely worth watching. It's some of the most godawful, yet iconically 60s style fight scenes ever made. I don't know why they thought that balling your hands together and bopping somebody with your finger blob would work. Two hands equals double power? I don't know, but it was the go-to fight move in movies back then. Doing a reaction to that scene alone would be awesome actually. I don't think anyone has done it and it's kind of a perfect opportunity.
Robert Downey Jr has had a long but up and down career. Back in the 80s he was a teen hearthrob who starred in several hit teen comedies and was a cast member on Saturday Night Live. Then he fell into drug addiction and was in and out of rehab for almost 20 years, during which he was unemployable and didn't make any movies; he was one of those "where are they now?" has-beens. Then this movie resurrected his career and showed the world that he could still act, and he was nominated for an Oscar for Best Supporting Actor. This role got him cast as Iron Man the next year (2009), which re-launched him into the world famous star he is today.
I was thinking this movie, as most satires and parodies do, depends on the viewer being familiar with current pop culture. This movie was so much more than that. So I'm glad you enjoyed it, nevertheless. Specially the big laugh you got out of the kid being flung over the bridge (I saw that don't deny, lol). I hope your channel continues to grow. I like your format, where you mostly watch the movie and enjoy it (interacting with what's happening onscreen), and save your thought/critique post watch. Good luck!
I don't remember if you've watched "School of Rock" yet, but if you haven't, you must. It showcases Jack Black at his finest, his acting, his comedic abilities, his infectious personality, and his musical skills, all without having to be subjected to his normal crudeness. And the child cast is utterly adorable and talented as hell in their own right.
@@Whimsory Yuppers! I kinda figured you'd seen, School of Rock, any Tenacious D fan would have! Ps. Have you seen JoJo Rabbit? Sorry, I hate beating a dead horse, but look at me!! I'm bored, staring at my phone, in a mirror, and it's black n white, whaaat? Ok, hope you are well, More movies please!!!
It's a bizarre combination! It starts as a satire of the Hollywood system (actors and producers especially) and of Vietnam war movies -- and then becomes a big-budget war movie. One the few movies where the DVD commentary is essential.
I'm a black man from Nairobi, Kenya and I don't mind black face. I think context is crucial e.g Downey Jr in the current movie. Moreover, I prefer the devil you know. Sometimes you have to allow people to hurt your feelings to truly know them. Love the channel. Keep it up!
it wasn't even 'blackface' in a traditional sense..it was about how Hollywood would rather use a white person they know for a part than using the real thing: Italians for native Americans, Mickey Rooney for Japanese, John Wayne for Gengis Kahn, etc, etc, etc.. for it was more commentary on Hollywood than anything (as was most of the movie... I mean man.. they got to take big ol swings at the industry that employs them... and the film made so much money, no one could say anything about that). Tom Cruise got to be that slimey studio head that I'm sure they are all familiar with the type, for instance.
This movie is really deep when deconstructed. Knowing Hollywood behind the scene knowledge really brings a lot of the satire out. The struggle of the production company versus new director struggle (I.e. Alien 3), the over the top ambitious method actor (i.e. Daniel Day Lewis), the drug addicted comedian, the rapper turned actor, the book writer over embellishing real life events, the actor agent focus(TiVo). I loved your reaction and analysis to this movie. Each one a of your vids is fantastic!
Ben Stiller is in a very serious drama called "Permanent Midnight". Comedy runs in the family, his father Jerry is a comedy legend, and I think his mother is too.
Adrien Brody sold his stuff for The Pianist (2022), he won an Oscar for that film. Leonardo DiCaprio eating the raw meat was the The Revenant (2015), he also won an Oscar for his performance in that film. Dustin Hoffman slapping Meryl Streep was for Kramer vs Kramer (1979), and they both won Oscars for that film.
Everything about this movie is great. They all play off each other so well. And Tom Cruise's performance as Les Grossman is perfect. It's one of the two best comedies of the 00's, the other being Team America: World Police. Which I hope you'll react to some day. :)
Tropic Thunder is one of the best comedies ever made, even if some of the jokes go over your head there's still enough for you to laugh at and I saw this around the time it came out, I was too young to understand all the jokes and references but it was still one of my favourites and I've just grown to understand and appreciate this movie even more
Comedy has always pushed the boundaries of what is appropriate or offensive. This movie could not have been made today because so many people would feign outrage. You'd likely have boycotts of the movie, the actors, the studio, the catering company, etc. There would be protests of mock violence leading to real violence. It's not just "your generation." Everyone is guilty and we should all be a little thicker skinned.
Hey Whimsory, here's a watch suggestion for ya. "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang" With Robert Downey Jr and Val Kilmer, while still having comedic notes is a great new age noir/mystery flick. I think you'd enjoy it.
In the theater the movie started seamlessly after the real trailers. It was a very confusing few minutes before figuring it out. The funniest start to any movie I've seen! Tobey Maguire actually did win MTV's best kiss award in 2003. He was watching an episode of the original Star Trek, a fight between Captain Kirk and a Gorn.
I saw the notification for this and thought, “Oh, no … does she know what she's getting into?” Then she said, “There’s a white guy under there”, and I thought, “Yeah, no”. The post reaction/analysis on Lazarus was spot on, though.
Someone should have told you that this movie is a satire of several famous war movies. It's always hard to understand satires if you aren't yet familiar with the source material that it's trying to parody. Once you watch the original movies -- Apocalypse Now, Platoon, Rambo 2, Full Metal Jacket, Mission Impossible 3, Predator (which you got with the chopper line), two of which are on the AFI list of all-time best movies (Apocalypse Now and Platoon)-- you'll recognize where a lot of the scenes in this movie came from and why they're funny.
There are few movies I really like watching people react to. It's such a goofy movie, and the look of confusion people have. 😆 Especially for young people who, let's face it, aren't as thick-skinned as us old people are. 😉
Hope you feel better little homie we can't change the past but we can prepare for the future so when things happen try not to get sad or angry about them just accept that it happened and look for the solution God hates a froward mind ( to move backwards instead of forward ) anyway God bless and stay safe
Absolutely love this film. It's so well done. Also love your reactions and how involved you get when researching them. I look forward to your reactions for The Usual Suspects and Shawshank Redemption (fingers crossed). Two of my all time favourites.
You're a cinematic virgin. A national treasure that must be preserved at all costs. Best reactionary ever. Speaking of reactionaries, watch "The Big Labowski." ❤️
Robert Downey, Jr. has been around since the 1980s. Less Than Zero is one that stands out. Soapdish from the 90s stands out. And Kiss Kiss Bang Bang from the 2000s stands out.
a really solid Robert Downey Jr. movie outside of the superhero genre is Kiss, Kiss, Bang Bang! It was my first RDJ movie and from what I can see it was his first big movie after his rehab stint. It also stars Val Kilmer. It's worth a watch if you get the chance!
"I just realized that's Tom Cruise". Literally one of the best reason to watch all of the reaction videos to Tropic Thunder. LOL Though, some of the reactions make me feel REALLY OLD. Never seen an RDJ movie before this? Oy....
Tug was watching a classic episode of the original 'Star Trek' where Caption Kirk battles a reptilian alien on the ipod right before he killed the panda.
The part with Ben Stiller running toward the chopper while getting shot up and raising his arms in the air is a parody of the Oliver Stone war movie “Platoon” starring Charlie Sheen. It’s easily one of the best war movies ever made and has a stellar ensemble cast. I highly recommend it. The song that plays during the opening and throughout parts of the movie is a song called “Adiagio for Strings” by Samuel Barber. I challenge you to listen to that song and not cry.
Iron Man also came out in 2008, which I think is the *perfect* movie to show RDJ. The character he plays, Tony Stark, is somewhat close to how RDJ was - incredibly skilled but too much fame leading to drug/alcohol problems, who finds his way out. Also it's a GREAT place to start with superhero movies as it's the first Marvel/MCU movie! It's still one of my favourite movies that I love to see reactors react to! It also stands well on its own outside of the MCU! For Ben Stiller, I *really* hope you get to Zoolander at some point! Finally, I like that you talk about the research you do on a movie after you watch it, I do this too! I never used to, and didn't care about references or things I might have missed, and didn't have a lot of actor/movie knowledge, but eventually you build that up, and I feel like this movie is probably going to be a tipping point for you! Great reaction, please keep them coming!
"I thought it was jelly bean fun-dip." 😂😂😂 Child please don't ever change. Don't let doing movie reactions ruin you absolutely beautiful innocence it is a precious thing that you can't ever get back.
Happy 4th Whimsory. Been enjoying your reviews! Checked out some of your other videos. I have to say that my favorite persona of all is... You being YOU in these movie reviews! 😊 Keep up the great work! I have to leave a request for " My Cousin Vinny ". You will love Marissa Tomei, but who doesn't? And I am really hoping that you haven't seen " The Princess Bride"! It may become your favorite movie ever!! Lol ❤
I love your analytical mind! It's so rare to see this type of in-depth analysis in reaction videos. And you're so young too! You're doing amazing work, keep at it!
Love Tom Cruise's acting. Don't think much of him otherwise. I mean, what kind of person eats the afterbirth of his child? Having said that, Tom Cruise's character was my favorite character in this movie.
You watched the movie Predator a couple months ago. The guy with glasses cracking jokes directed a movie with Robert Downey Jr and Val Kilmer called Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. He also did a movie called The Nice Guys with Russell Crowe and Ryan Gosling.
Jack Black's character was partially based on Chris Farley, a comedian who also had problems with drugs and alcohol, as well as his weight, which unfortunately led to his death when he was only 33 years old. He was a talented comedian, IMO, and he was the original voice of Shrek. He had recorderd 85 % of his dialog in the movie when he died. I recommened the documentary I am Chris Farley, if you're interested in knowing more about him-
"When I learn something new, something old's gotta leave" Yeah, that happened to me once when I learned the taste of 15 different beers in one night and forgot how to drive
Definitely a fun reaction -- I haven't seen anyone else watch this that had no idea who Robert Downy Jr. was! As you Really like Jack Black, I assume you've seen the Kung Fu Panda movies. If you haven't, I Strongly recommend them.
Dustin Hoffman’s performance opposite Lord Laurence Olivier in Marathon Man that illustrates his madness for method acting. As legend has it, Olivier (a classically trained stage actor) and Hoffman had the following exchange during the shoot. “How did your week go, dear boy,” Olivier said. Hoffman told him that he had filmed a scene in which his character was supposed to have been up for three days straight. “So what did you do?” Olivier asked. “Well, I stayed up for three days and three nights.” Laurence Olivier then uttered this famous line, “Why don’t you just try acting?” The exchange is oft-quoted to show the difference in thinking between classical actors and modern film actors.
Can’t say I have ever known anybody who first movie with RDJ was Tropic thunder. For me it was Heart and Souls from 93. I probably watched it on tv in like 1995. Then weird science(1985) not long after that.
Well, I don't know if the conversation between Tugg and Kirk actually intends to make fun of mentally or physically challenged people. In my perspective, the conversation between Tugg and Kirk clearly explains how Hollywood movies always portray mentally challenged characters in such a way that their disability is not too extreme that the able-bodied audience doesn't find them repulsive. Such characters can still exude positivity and provide wholesome feeling for the able-bodied audience. They are always potrayed as innocent magical souls and often conform to the beauty standards. The best example is Forrest Gump. His disability is neither gross nor too extreme for him to be successful in life even though he mostly got lucky. He is handsome, has a respectable family heritage, is financially sound and has a loving mom who goes to any extent for her son. But, the problem is Hollywood movies always fail to portray characters with extreme mental disabilities who are not blessed with a good family, resources, looks, opportunities or even luck. Well, it's mainly because able-bodied people may find such characters too depressing, aesthetically unappealing or even worse, outrightly repulsive. Audience may not even find anything to relate to such characters. That's the primary reason why we often get to see characters like Forrest Gump in cinema but seldom characters like "Simple Jack". I think this is what Kirk meant when he said "never go full r*tard". I strongly think this single line alone is in itself a satirical dig at the Hollywood's recurring trope of mentally challenged people whose disabilities are not too extreme that they still turn their lives around and are epitomes of innocence and optimism. Of course, it's understandable why people find the use of the "r word" over and over in this particular conversation off-putting or objectionable because the same "r word" has been used since ages as an insult by being completely unsympathetic to the mentally challenged people. They are still seen as outcasts in many parts of the world. But, I think instead of seeing this movie conversation as an insult to a particular group of people, we should focus on how this conversation cleverly exposes Hollywood's age old depiction of mentally challenged people only in a way that is acceptable to the able-bodied audience. Much love ❤.....
17:03 "the insults just keep getting worse" 😂 sums it up pretty good. they were mocking hollywood and all the sequels, and greed. little did they know it got much, much worse, they were thinking a 400 mill return was crazy, now nothing but a billion will make them happy. another great reaction! 👍
I was already well into my thirties in '08... so no, it wasn't my first RDJ movie. The cast was packed, and even the minor, throwaway characters had faces I recognized. I'm not a big fan of crude bathroom humor, but this movie delivers laughs on so-o-o many levels, I hardly noticed it. Really, one of the best made movies of the millennium.
The Marvel cinematic universe is a worthwhile watch from Ironman thru to Avengers: End Game, but after end game it goes off the rails and not really worth it anymore. If you do decide to watch them, make sure you go in order of cinematic release.
Oh SNAP! I didn't know you reacted to this today. Saw Tropic Thunder in the theater. Remember the Robert Downey Jr. lines as the funniest thing in the film. When he said, "For four hundred years... " I lost it. That was SO unexpected. I was laughing so hard I'm sure I missed what he said after that. Totally did not remember the Tom Cruise Apple Bottom Jeans part. Hilarious.
"Satans Alley".. "oh hell yeah, that looks good"... either some important innuendo was missed, or a small window into Whimsorys mind was cracked open a smidge. I do find it funny, that so many American reactors seem incapable of recognizing Tom Cruise in this. His voice is pretty easy to recognise.
She should rewatch this movie once she's completed her list of "movies to watch before you die" or whatever... will probably see it with completely different eyes.
FYI, re: the character Alpa Chino, there's a very famous actor named Al Pacino! I recommend you see him in The Devil's Advocate (1997) with Keanu Reeves and in Scent of a Woman (1992) with a young Chris O'Donnell. He's also in The Godfather movies, Scarface, and many other films.
I always thought Brandon T. Jackson was doing a Michael Jackson move at 34:41. I think I've seen MJ do that move before. Yeah, Brandon was funny as hell in this film, and his Alpa Chino character was the perfect foil to Lazarus. I don't believe Lazarus' character would have worked without Alpa Chino there to call him out.
It's honestly hilarious to me that this was the first thing you ever saw Robert Downey Jr in 🤣 What a crazy way to be introduced to him!
Exactly, the normal way is "the junkie who got booted of Ally McBeal"
@@boretrk 🤣You're not wrong!
weird science was my introduction
@@boomshanka4667 dude, me too!
The guy has had starring roles in movies since the 1980's!!
You're innocent inability to tell that Jack Black's character was doing drugs and having withdrawals is absolutely adorable 😅 Loved the reaction.
Yeah, it's easy to tell when someone hasn't been through withdrawals of any kind.
"What, is he just really hungry?" 😂That was great.
@@lukesmusicI watched this movie when I was 11 and new what was going on.
"Dr Psilocybin" tells me you'd see the effects of drugs as well as a lack of drugs better than most 😅
If Whimsory does it, it's absolutely adorable!
“What offends me is how they disrespected Toby Maguire!” That was freaking hilarious. Thank you.
Maybe a reaction to Spider-Man No Way home will be on the channel eventually?
"what do you mean you people?"
@@JohnHill-bn5kn What do YOU mean "you people!?"
@@fluffylittlebear"aUhhU?"
Robert Downey Jr was nominated for Best Supporting Actor for his role in the movie!
and thankfully cancel culture cant touch this movie apparently. thank god for that
@@magus104 Yeah...thankfully. Not like all the thousands of movies wich dont exist anymore or you get arrested for watching. Thank you baby Jesus.
@@thefearhawk8805 I accidentally saw a youtube short of django unchained and the woke mob found out somebody says the n word in that movie and beat me with sticks for watching it.
He also did the DVD commentary in character 🤣🤣🤣
@@rodentnolastname6612 My favorite joke in the movie is "I don't break character until the audio commentary." Then does the commentary in character :)
Toby McGuire actually did win best kiss in the MTV movie awards. He won for the first Spider-Man movie, when he kissed Kirsten Dunste upside down.
The explosion on the bridge and Speedman getting blown away sideways is straight out of mission impossible 3, almost shot for shot.
I’ve watched so many Tropic Thunder reactions, just waiting for someone to catch that. They never do😞
"I'm the dude playin' the dude, disguised as another dude."
"Man, I don't drop character 'til I done the DVD commentary."
RDJ f'cking *killed* this role.
"The Fatties" was a spoof on "The Nutty Professor," with Eddie Murphy playing multiple...portly characters.
The funny part is he actually didn’t drop it until the end of the dvd commentary, actually an entertaining commentary too
'I don't read the script, the script reads me...'
'What the hell does that even mean!?'
😂😂😂
Tom Cruise was unbelievably funny in this movie. Aggressive, but it was done tastefully lol
More relevantly, he was doing impersonations of producers he had to work with.
@@mudageki Old Harvey
Something she said made me think of something that Laurence Olivier said to Dustin Hoffman on the set of Marathon Man. Hoffman’s character was supposed to have been awake for like 3 days and so Hoffman being a method guy stayed awake for about that long. He kept messing up the scene which aggravated Olivier who was classically trained. He supposedly told Hoffman "My dear boy, why don't you just try acting?"
My introduction to Rober Downey Jr. Was in 1985 the movie was "Weird science".
Mine too, but I was only a kdi when I saw it. First time I became aware of him was in Ally McBeale
From the late 80's to mid 90's I always confused RDJ and Johnny Depp. For 20 years I had remembered Johnny Depp in _Weird Science_ and _Chaplin,_ which is strange, considering that I must've seen WS a dozen times as a kid.
I think the first movie I remember Robert Downey Jr. in was Air America with Mel Gibson
Which was also my first introduction to Kelly LeBrock !!
Mine was in Ally McBeal, I'm pretty sure.
The movies that Tropic Thunder is really parodying are Platoon, Apocalypse Now, and Rambo Part II. You should watch all of those. More broadly, Tropic Thunder is a parody of all of the cliches of Vietnam war movies.
I was thinking Galaxy Quest/The Three Amigos meets Vietnam
Not to mention it lampoons the entire Hollywood system and movie making in general!
There are definitely elements from those movies but I would argue that it's more of a parody/commentary on the movie industry rather than the actual content of war movies.
@@Novacification Yes of course, but the direct parodies include largely elements of those movies.
How can you expect to truly appreciate a satire if you are clueless to any of the source material?!?
"Is he just hungry or what?"
Oh you sweet summer child. 😅
Robert Downy Jr actually DID stay in character while he did the DVD commentary.😂
Tropic Thunder is one of the few movies that I would say is a perfect 10/10. Every single person in the cast is absolutely perfect. I'm glad you do talk about all of the actors briefly because I feel like Brandon T. Jackson and Jay Baruchel don't get enough credit in the movie since they're playing the straight men to everyone else's absurdity.
I think what truly highlights how well written this movie is the fact that Robert Downey Jr. got nominated for his role. White actors being cast in ethnic roles has been a problem in Hollywood even in modern history. The fact that the movie was able to satirize it (Along with method acting) using the extremely touchy subject of blackface and do so so successfully that the portrayal is met with applause by both critics and audience is quite frankly amazing. I know a lot of people say "Oh this movie could never be made today", but this movie is only 15 years old. Blackface was not acceptable 15 years ago either. It's such a fine line to walk between proper satire, and being actually offensive, and this movie manages it perfectly.
Steve Coogan died for this film and nobody even talks about him.
I'm impressed at how you quickly 'got' what they were were doing, even though you hadn't seen many of the movies & memes they were parodying. This may be the most ...meta... movie I've seen. It's very self aware, and while they brutally send-up all these Hollywood clichés (which may be clichés for a reason), there is also a bit of empathy for all the characters, however outrageous they may be. I suspect the reason they got so many 'heavy hitters' in this is because everyone who saw the script recognized someone, or had similar experiences and really wanted to be a part of this self-aware spoof.
I don't think anyone in this cast has done better work than they did here. Sure, many of their things are great, but Tropic Thunder is in a class by itself.
Thanks for choosing this. It's always fun to see a familiar film with a first-timer. The reactions are priceless.I can also see why you want to watch it a few times. There's a LOT packed into this film, and the more you watch, the more you find.
And on the subject of offensive stuff in older movies? Check out Mickey Rooney in Breakfast at Tiffany's. Most. Offensive. Role.. EVER! It was squirm-worthy at the time, but has only gotten worse with age.
"What's Tivo?" Aw... that's just precious. Early 2000's tech reached obsolescence so quickly.
As soon as she said that I was like "..... is this what it's like to be old" lmao
Dude, I'm 30 and the first time I watched Tropic Thunder I was also oblivious to what TiVo was, I was either like: "what's TiVo?" Or "is that supposed to be a real thing?"
It speaks more about the obsolescence of early 2000s and late 90s technology than anything else; everything tech related was so fleeting and early phased out that nothing like that really stuck.
when ben stiller asked tom cruise to be in the movie, all tom said was "i want fat hands and i wanna dance." 😂
Tom Cruise said in an interview that his only requirements to agree to do this character were, "I want fat hands, and I want to dance." For the record like he says in the movie, Robert Downey Jr actually does the DVD commentary as Lincoln Osiris.
Do kids know what a DVD commentary is these days? Maybe you should explain what that is first.
Greatest DVD commentary EVER! In fact, the commentary alone is better than most films that come out these days! In even more fact... As much as I fucking LOVE this movie, the commentary might actually be equally funny!
@@TheHominidShow It's been remastered and both the director's cut and theatrical versions included on Blu-ray and 4K. I'm not certain, but pretty sure the commentary is carried over. The one to buy, if you never have.
tom cruise made up the grossman character out of thin air. stiller had offered him the part played by matthew mcconoughy. his requirements to do the movie, were to play the character he made up, with fat hands, and to dance. it reads quite wrong the way you put it. its not like he was offered the part of grossman and had conditions on accepting that part. the part didnt exist.
The Sherlock Holmes movies are also a good introduction to Downey Jr. And Dodgeball is an excellent comedie with Ben Stiller.
Unfortunately Downey doesn't resemble Sherlock Holmes in the slightest.
Downey is an AWFUL Sherlock Holmes.
@@fernandohinojosa3211 I must be a Downey fan; I loved the Sherlock Holmes movies. Maybe because of the director?
@@dukecunning7046 Guy Ritchie doesn't miss. 👌
People who call the first RDJ Sherlock movie inaccurate usually haven't actually read the books. That movie uses lines from the books in its dialogue and Sherlock being a decent fighter when he needs to be is part of the character.
You may like The Cable Guy (1996), directed by Ben Stiller, Starring Jim Carrey, has Jack Black in a supporting role. It’s an underrated black comedy.
A super underrated dark satire. Just brilliant and so 90s. Also definitely very funny at times.
“Why can’t these actors just…act” is almost exactly what Sir Lawrence Olivier said to Dustin Hoffman on the set of Marathon Man. His exact words after Dustin was doing his method stuff were “try acting”.
This was genuinely the oddest reaction I've watched in ages. I don't think I've ever seen a reactor sit through an entire film and not understand any of it. Awesome! 🤣🤣🤣
She obviously didn't know this was a satire of several famous war movies. It's always hard to understand satires if you aren't familiar with the source material.
On the Vietnam tropes and stuff yeah fairplay but not catching that JB's character was off his tits on Charlie or RDJ was black facing it through most of the movie...really??
Are you saying she "went full retard"? Never go full retard!
Lmao this comment just had me dying laughing 😂. Then end it with "awesome" you're funny as hell man.
When she said she thought they was jelly beans and had a serious face was also funny. She's great lol
Ben Stiller was in Zoolander (1 & 2 ) and Meet the Parents (2000 ) and
There's Something About Mary (1998) .
Robert Downey Jr in the MCU as Ironman (2008 )- and Sherlock Holmes (2009) Chaplin (1992) and Back to School (1986) . Those are movies you might want to check out.
RDJ was bloody brilliant as Charlie Chaplin. Talk about getting into a role!
Easily the #1 movie for RDJ is "Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang"
(Obviously the MCU is pretty iconic, important, a massive lodestone of pop culture. But that's a lot; KKBB is just one movie.)
RDJ also put in a fantastic performance in Less Than Zero.
14:00 - He was watching an old episode of Star Trek. I can't remember the name of the episode, but if you can find the scene it's absolutely worth watching. It's some of the most godawful, yet iconically 60s style fight scenes ever made. I don't know why they thought that balling your hands together and bopping somebody with your finger blob would work. Two hands equals double power? I don't know, but it was the go-to fight move in movies back then. Doing a reaction to that scene alone would be awesome actually. I don't think anyone has done it and it's kind of a perfect opportunity.
Yup. Arena from season one. Ben Stiller's a big Star Trek fan. He bought one of the Gorn heads from that episode.
His production company, Red Hour, is a reference to a “Star Trek” episode.
It is quite standard Star Trek galaxy martial arts styles. A double-fist punch is one what even Riker is using.
Ironically, goofy fight aside, that's a pretty good episode with classic ST moral dilema plot.
@@GanjaLibre I think by now the goofy fight has just become part of what makes it so good.
Platoon is parodied too, as war movies go it's pretty great (great score too), definitely one to react to.
Great reaction! ‘There’s something about Mary’ is a absolute classic Ben Stiller comedy worth your time!
I think the first thing I ever saw Robert Downey Jr. in was either the 1999 thriller 'In Dreams' or 'Natural Born Killers'.
Robert Downey Jr has had a long but up and down career. Back in the 80s he was a teen hearthrob who starred in several hit teen comedies and was a cast member on Saturday Night Live. Then he fell into drug addiction and was in and out of rehab for almost 20 years, during which he was unemployable and didn't make any movies; he was one of those "where are they now?" has-beens. Then this movie resurrected his career and showed the world that he could still act, and he was nominated for an Oscar for Best Supporting Actor. This role got him cast as Iron Man the next year (2009), which re-launched him into the world famous star he is today.
Iron Man came first. They both released the same year.
He actually did Ironman first then tropic thunder they were both out in 2008
When you watch Kung Fu Hustle, I'd watch it subtitled and not dubbed.
She should watch KungFury
with the Soundtrack from David Hasselhoff xD
Something about Mary, Dodgeball and Meet the Parents are Ben Stiller comedy staples that should take precedence.
I was thinking this movie, as most satires and parodies do, depends on the viewer being familiar with current pop culture. This movie was so much more than that. So I'm glad you enjoyed it, nevertheless. Specially the big laugh you got out of the kid being flung over the bridge (I saw that don't deny, lol).
I hope your channel continues to grow. I like your format, where you mostly watch the movie and enjoy it (interacting with what's happening onscreen), and save your thought/critique post watch.
Good luck!
At one point Downey is an American playing an Australian playing a Black American playing a Vietnamese Farmer which is Inception levels of Meta
I don't remember if you've watched "School of Rock" yet, but if you haven't, you must. It showcases Jack Black at his finest, his acting, his comedic abilities, his infectious personality, and his musical skills, all without having to be subjected to his normal crudeness. And the child cast is utterly adorable and talented as hell in their own right.
He played it straight in Day of the Jackal with Bruce Willis, but that was a stinker.
I LOVE School of Rock! ☺️
@@Whimsory Yuppers! I kinda figured you'd seen, School of Rock, any Tenacious D fan would have! Ps. Have you seen JoJo Rabbit? Sorry, I hate beating a dead horse, but look at me!! I'm bored, staring at my phone, in a mirror, and it's black n white, whaaat? Ok, hope you are well, More movies please!!!
Not parodying "Saving Private Ryan" it was parodying "Apocalypses Now" .
It's a bizarre combination! It starts as a satire of the Hollywood system (actors and producers especially) and of Vietnam war movies -- and then becomes a big-budget war movie.
One the few movies where the DVD commentary is essential.
I'm a black man from Nairobi, Kenya and I don't mind black face. I think context is crucial e.g Downey Jr in the current movie. Moreover, I prefer the devil you know. Sometimes you have to allow people to hurt your feelings to truly know them. Love the channel. Keep it up!
it wasn't even 'blackface' in a traditional sense..it was about how Hollywood would rather use a white person they know for a part than using the real thing: Italians for native Americans, Mickey Rooney for Japanese, John Wayne for Gengis Kahn, etc, etc, etc.. for it was more commentary on Hollywood than anything (as was most of the movie... I mean man.. they got to take big ol swings at the industry that employs them... and the film made so much money, no one could say anything about that). Tom Cruise got to be that slimey studio head that I'm sure they are all familiar with the type, for instance.
It's mocking and making fun of blackface, white wash and method acting in Hollywood.
My favorite Ben Stiller movie is The Secret Life of Walter Mitty. It's not like any of his other movies, really, but it is SO GOOD!
This movie is really deep when deconstructed. Knowing Hollywood behind the scene knowledge really brings a lot of the satire out. The struggle of the production company versus new director struggle (I.e. Alien 3), the over the top ambitious method actor (i.e. Daniel Day Lewis), the drug addicted comedian, the rapper turned actor, the book writer over embellishing real life events, the actor agent focus(TiVo). I loved your reaction and analysis to this movie. Each one a of your vids is fantastic!
Stiller met a lot of these types growing up in the industry, this is where half his inspiration came from.
Ben Stiller is in a very serious drama called "Permanent Midnight". Comedy runs in the family, his father Jerry is a comedy legend, and I think his mother is too.
Don’t forget Reality Bites.
Adrien Brody sold his stuff for The Pianist (2022), he won an Oscar for that film. Leonardo DiCaprio eating the raw meat was the The Revenant (2015), he also won an Oscar for his performance in that film. Dustin Hoffman slapping Meryl Streep was for Kramer vs Kramer (1979), and they both won Oscars for that film.
Everything about this movie is great. They all play off each other so well. And Tom Cruise's performance as Les Grossman is perfect. It's one of the two best comedies of the 00's, the other being Team America: World Police. Which I hope you'll react to some day. :)
Everyone that knows.. knows it was an impression of Harvey Wienstien.
She probably wouldn't get Team America and just find it offensive as well.
Tropic Thunder is one of the best comedies ever made, even if some of the jokes go over your head there's still enough for you to laugh at and I saw this around the time it came out, I was too young to understand all the jokes and references but it was still one of my favourites and I've just grown to understand and appreciate this movie even more
One of the best comedies, it's comedy from start to end and doesnt has a silly sad ending like so many comedies that loses all comedy
Comedy has always pushed the boundaries of what is appropriate or offensive. This movie could not have been made today because so many people would feign outrage. You'd likely have boycotts of the movie, the actors, the studio, the catering company, etc. There would be protests of mock violence leading to real violence. It's not just "your generation." Everyone is guilty and we should all be a little thicker skinned.
Same with one of the best ANTI-racist movies, Blazing Saddles. Gen Z reactors typically are so busy offended the miss the point of the movie.
"What face was that?"...that was a "should have been an outtake face", just like when he practically laughs during that scene. Comedy gold!
You got the "Get in the chopper" reference just fine.
Hey Whimsory, here's a watch suggestion for ya.
"Kiss Kiss Bang Bang" With Robert Downey Jr and Val Kilmer, while still having comedic notes is a great new age noir/mystery flick.
I think you'd enjoy it.
Jack Black's preview movie trailer was a spoof of an Eddie Murphy comedy called The Klumps where he too plays multiple characters, most of them fat.
Ben Stiller - 'The Secret Life of Walter Mitty', serious and the comedy is organic.
i'm sure you'll be seeing plenty of the main actors going forward.
love that your cat woke up for the director stepping on a mine.
In the theater the movie started seamlessly after the real trailers. It was a very confusing few minutes before figuring it out. The funniest start to any movie I've seen! Tobey Maguire actually did win MTV's best kiss award in 2003. He was watching an episode of the original Star Trek, a fight between Captain Kirk and a Gorn.
I saw the notification for this and thought, “Oh, no … does she know what she's getting into?” Then she said, “There’s a white guy under there”, and I thought, “Yeah, no”. The post reaction/analysis on Lazarus was spot on, though.
Someone should have told you that this movie is a satire of several famous war movies. It's always hard to understand satires if you aren't yet familiar with the source material that it's trying to parody. Once you watch the original movies -- Apocalypse Now, Platoon, Rambo 2, Full Metal Jacket, Mission Impossible 3, Predator (which you got with the chopper line), two of which are on the AFI list of all-time best movies (Apocalypse Now and Platoon)-- you'll recognize where a lot of the scenes in this movie came from and why they're funny.
There are few movies I really like watching people react to. It's such a goofy movie, and the look of confusion people have. 😆 Especially for young people who, let's face it, aren't as thick-skinned as us old people are. 😉
I don't think she, or anyone under 30 gets half of the references or jokes in this movie.
"What's a TiVO?"
Hope you feel better little homie we can't change the past but we can prepare for the future so when things happen try not to get sad or angry about them just accept that it happened and look for the solution God hates a froward mind ( to move backwards instead of forward ) anyway God bless and stay safe
The best "offensive" comedy still is Team America. Can't top that.
You mentioned Leo Dicaprio's method acting. I believe that was in preparation of The Revenant. It's phenomenal. I highly recommend it.
Dropped everything for this one.😂 it's a humour test.
@@DrJohnnyFever. It's "humour" pretty much everywhere outside the U.S.
@@DrJohnnyFever.Tally ho and all that.
Love your stuff
@@danielwillis3734 I love sx.
@@DrJohnnyFever. LOL 🤡🤡🤡
Absolutely love this film. It's so well done. Also love your reactions and how involved you get when researching them.
I look forward to your reactions for The Usual Suspects and Shawshank Redemption (fingers crossed). Two of my all time favourites.
Ben stiller is the son of two older comedians, Jerry stiller and Anne Meara. He's a comedian through and through. 42:58
You're a cinematic virgin. A national treasure that must be preserved at all costs.
Best reactionary ever.
Speaking of reactionaries, watch "The Big Labowski." ❤️
Ngl you are the first person I've seen react to this movie that wasn't dying while watching it lol.
Robert Downey, Jr. has been around since the 1980s. Less Than Zero is one that stands out. Soapdish from the 90s stands out. And Kiss Kiss Bang Bang from the 2000s stands out.
‘What’s TiVo?” Oh god…I’m only 40, I’m only 40, I’m only 40…
I loved your face when Damien stepped on the mine! : D
They were absolutely poking fun at the length some method actors will go to 🤣
I think it’s hilarious
"The other guy on the cover" hahaha 😆 😂
a really solid Robert Downey Jr. movie outside of the superhero genre is Kiss, Kiss, Bang Bang! It was my first RDJ movie and from what I can see it was his first big movie after his rehab stint. It also stars Val Kilmer. It's worth a watch if you get the chance!
I thought it was 'Chaplin' that got him on the straight - could be wrong though
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang was the first movie RDJ did since he got sober. Iron Man was his second.
"I just realized that's Tom Cruise". Literally one of the best reason to watch all of the reaction videos to Tropic Thunder. LOL
Though, some of the reactions make me feel REALLY OLD. Never seen an RDJ movie before this? Oy....
Tug was watching a classic episode of the original 'Star Trek' where Caption Kirk battles a reptilian alien on the ipod right before he killed the panda.
The part with Ben Stiller running toward the chopper while getting shot up and raising his arms in the air is a parody of the Oliver Stone war movie “Platoon” starring Charlie Sheen. It’s easily one of the best war movies ever made and has a stellar ensemble cast. I highly recommend it. The song that plays during the opening and throughout parts of the movie is a song called “Adiagio for Strings” by Samuel Barber. I challenge you to listen to that song and not cry.
Iron Man also came out in 2008, which I think is the *perfect* movie to show RDJ. The character he plays, Tony Stark, is somewhat close to how RDJ was - incredibly skilled but too much fame leading to drug/alcohol problems, who finds his way out. Also it's a GREAT place to start with superhero movies as it's the first Marvel/MCU movie! It's still one of my favourite movies that I love to see reactors react to! It also stands well on its own outside of the MCU!
For Ben Stiller, I *really* hope you get to Zoolander at some point!
Finally, I like that you talk about the research you do on a movie after you watch it, I do this too! I never used to, and didn't care about references or things I might have missed, and didn't have a lot of actor/movie knowledge, but eventually you build that up, and I feel like this movie is probably going to be a tipping point for you!
Great reaction, please keep them coming!
"I thought it was jelly bean fun-dip." 😂😂😂 Child please don't ever change. Don't let doing movie reactions ruin you absolutely beautiful innocence it is a precious thing that you can't ever get back.
Happy 4th Whimsory. Been enjoying your reviews! Checked out some of your other videos. I have to say that my favorite persona of all is...
You being YOU in these movie reviews! 😊
Keep up the great work!
I have to leave a request for
" My Cousin Vinny ". You will love Marissa Tomei, but who doesn't?
And I am really hoping that you haven't seen " The Princess Bride"! It may become your favorite movie ever!! Lol ❤
I love your analytical mind! It's so rare to see this type of in-depth analysis in reaction videos. And you're so young too! You're doing amazing work, keep at it!
Love Tom Cruise's acting.
Don't think much of him otherwise.
I mean, what kind of person eats the afterbirth of his child?
Having said that, Tom Cruise's character was my favorite character in this movie.
You watched the movie Predator a couple months ago. The guy with glasses cracking jokes directed a movie with Robert Downey Jr and Val Kilmer called Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. He also did a movie called The Nice Guys with Russell Crowe and Ryan Gosling.
At the beginning you had to let us know that you didn't fart. which went together perfectly with *Jack Black's* preview movie
Jack Black's character was partially based on Chris Farley, a comedian who also had problems with drugs and alcohol, as well as his weight, which unfortunately led to his death when he was only 33 years old. He was a talented comedian, IMO, and he was the original voice of Shrek. He had recorderd 85 % of his dialog in the movie when he died.
I recommened the documentary I am Chris Farley, if you're interested in knowing more about him-
"When I learn something new, something old's gotta leave"
Yeah, that happened to me once when I learned the taste of 15 different beers in one night and forgot how to drive
😂😂😂 Im stealin this one from you bud!
Definitely a fun reaction -- I haven't seen anyone else watch this that had no idea who Robert Downy Jr. was!
As you Really like Jack Black, I assume you've seen the Kung Fu Panda movies. If you haven't, I Strongly recommend them.
No I wanna see kungfu panda
🐺 but I can't😢
Dustin Hoffman’s performance opposite Lord Laurence Olivier in Marathon Man that illustrates his madness for method acting. As legend has it, Olivier (a classically trained stage actor) and Hoffman had the following exchange during the shoot.
“How did your week go, dear boy,” Olivier said.
Hoffman told him that he had filmed a scene in which his character was supposed to have been up for three days straight.
“So what did you do?” Olivier asked.
“Well, I stayed up for three days and three nights.”
Laurence Olivier then uttered this famous line, “Why don’t you just try acting?”
The exchange is oft-quoted to show the difference in thinking between classical actors and modern film actors.
OMG. I can’t wait to begin watching your reaction to this! What a treat got July Fourth. I love your reactions, Whimsory!
"Is he just hungry?" lmao
Can’t say I have ever known anybody who first movie with RDJ was Tropic thunder. For me it was Heart and Souls from 93. I probably watched it on tv in like 1995. Then weird science(1985) not long after that.
So innocent, thought the jelly beans were just fun dip.
Well, I don't know if the conversation between Tugg and Kirk actually intends to make fun of mentally or physically challenged people. In my perspective, the conversation between Tugg and Kirk clearly explains how Hollywood movies always portray mentally challenged characters in such a way that their disability is not too extreme that the able-bodied audience doesn't find them repulsive. Such characters can still exude positivity and provide wholesome feeling for the able-bodied audience. They are always potrayed as innocent magical souls and often conform to the beauty standards. The best example is Forrest Gump. His disability is neither gross nor too extreme for him to be successful in life even though he mostly got lucky. He is handsome, has a respectable family heritage, is financially sound and has a loving mom who goes to any extent for her son. But, the problem is Hollywood movies always fail to portray characters with extreme mental disabilities who are not blessed with a good family, resources, looks, opportunities or even luck. Well, it's mainly because able-bodied people may find such characters too depressing, aesthetically unappealing or even worse, outrightly repulsive. Audience may not even find anything to relate to such characters. That's the primary reason why we often get to see characters like Forrest Gump in cinema but seldom characters like "Simple Jack". I think this is what Kirk meant when he said "never go full r*tard". I strongly think this single line alone is in itself a satirical dig at the Hollywood's recurring trope of mentally challenged people whose disabilities are not too extreme that they still turn their lives around and are epitomes of innocence and optimism.
Of course, it's understandable why people find the use of the "r word" over and over in this particular conversation off-putting or objectionable because the same "r word" has been used since ages as an insult by being completely unsympathetic to the mentally challenged people. They are still seen as outcasts in many parts of the world. But, I think instead of seeing this movie conversation as an insult to a particular group of people, we should focus on how this conversation cleverly exposes Hollywood's age old depiction of mentally challenged people only in a way that is acceptable to the able-bodied audience. Much love ❤.....
17:03 "the insults just keep getting worse" 😂 sums it up pretty good. they were mocking hollywood and all the sequels, and greed. little did they know it got much, much worse, they were thinking a 400 mill return was crazy, now nothing but a billion will make them happy. another great reaction! 👍
I was already well into my thirties in '08... so no, it wasn't my first RDJ movie. The cast was packed, and even the minor, throwaway characters had faces I recognized. I'm not a big fan of crude bathroom humor, but this movie delivers laughs on so-o-o many levels, I hardly noticed it. Really, one of the best made movies of the millennium.
"He looks so weird now, I never seem him as a white dude". LOL that's so damn funny.
The Marvel cinematic universe is a worthwhile watch from Ironman thru to Avengers: End Game, but after end game it goes off the rails and not really worth it anymore. If you do decide to watch them, make sure you go in order of cinematic release.
Oh SNAP! I didn't know you reacted to this today. Saw Tropic Thunder in the theater. Remember the Robert Downey Jr. lines as the funniest thing in the film. When he said, "For four hundred years... " I lost it. That was SO unexpected. I was laughing so hard I'm sure I missed what he said after that. Totally did not remember the Tom Cruise Apple Bottom Jeans part. Hilarious.
"Satans Alley".. "oh hell yeah, that looks good"... either some important innuendo was missed, or a small window into Whimsorys mind was cracked open a smidge.
I do find it funny, that so many American reactors seem incapable of recognizing Tom Cruise in this. His voice is pretty easy to recognise.
This is not gonna come out right but Whimsory's face throughout the "I don't know what I'd do if someone sent me..." is hilarious.
Trust and believe this movie doesn't spoil Saving Private Ryan.
She should rewatch this movie once she's completed her list of "movies to watch before you die" or whatever... will probably see it with completely different eyes.
You have the best movie reviews, by how in depth you go.👍🏼
Happy independence day to whimsory and everyone else
"the fatties" is a parody of eddie murphy's "nutty professor" for those who didn't catch it
FYI, re: the character Alpa Chino, there's a very famous actor named Al Pacino! I recommend you see him in The Devil's Advocate (1997) with Keanu Reeves and in Scent of a Woman (1992) with a young Chris O'Donnell. He's also in The Godfather movies, Scarface, and many other films.
Robert Downy Jr had a resurgence in his career around the time this came out.
I always thought Brandon T. Jackson was doing a Michael Jackson move at 34:41. I think I've seen MJ do that move before. Yeah, Brandon was funny as hell in this film, and his Alpa Chino character was the perfect foil to Lazarus. I don't believe Lazarus' character would have worked without Alpa Chino there to call him out.