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Brothers next time give this argument. How can we prove that Jesus or Moses or other prophets WERE prophets, (PBUTH) let alone Jesus being god? (and dying)
There is no way to prove it, the only “Evidence” is written text (mostly by anonymous people, that contain many contradictions and errors).
If you take Islam out of the picture, Jesus, Moses, Abraham, (pbuth) etc are no more than myths.
The only way to prove any prophet before Muhamad PBUH is through the Quran and hadith or building a time machine,
We don't have any evidence that Jesus was a prophet, or he really did any of his miracles (or his miracles were actual miracles and not tricks), same for Moses Abraham Solomon, etc peace be upon all of them,
so when we have enough evidence that Quran is the truth and Muhamad (PBUH) is a prophet then automatically all of their miracles are true, and they are prophets as well, Because the Quran and hadith says so, and we have evidence they are true. One might say why didn't Allah (God) let the other miracles survive, well because they weren't meant for us, they were meant for their people at their time, so it doesn't make sense for them to survive until now,
Allah sent a timeless miracle which is the Quran for Every Human/Jinn until the day of judgment, that's why it will survive until the last day, And will be an evidence for Muhamad and all the other prophets before him, (PBUTH),
And while you where discussing if that Jewish man wasn’t human or NOT more Palestinians got killed from the same race off that Jewish man that you keep discussing over and over again
I really feel sorry for the guy. He is trying so hard to defend something that is undefendable.
SubhanaAllah 😢😅
There is nothing hard there... God is omnipotent means all powerful, omniscient meaning all knowing and omnipresence meaning been in multiple places at the same time. If you put all these attributes together then you know God can be in different places at same time which means he can be in heaven and also be on earth at the same time without contradiction or violates any laws.
"A family" imagine god has a brother, astakhfiru Allah
Exactly i wonder why he doesn’t have a “ daughter “ why it has to be a “ son this whole Christianity does not make sense “ . Astafirullah
@@gmhc7298 God has no Son nor daughter in terms of a human son nor daughter because he does not need to reproduce. The Son of God is a title which means someone who is anointed as a messenger or someone who is very close to God like a prophet. Adam, David, Solomon as well as Jesus are all called Sons of God. But, Jesus is called the unique Son of God because while the rest of the prophets were part of creation and their origin is in creation, Jesus had no origin in creation but outside creation. The Quran and Bible both call Jesus the Word of God which is eternal and an attribute of God. God used his word to create everything. Since, Jesus is the Word, Jesus is the creator according to the Quran. Jesus created his own mother and entered creation as a human but he always preexisted.
@@gmc4733 yeah ok and harry potter is my father lol
@@gmc4733 i agree on all points you mentioned above except the last part.
How could Jesus have created his own mother and entered creation as a human, but always existed while he himself was created?
Romans 9:29 "For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren".
Colossians 1:15 "Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:"
We don't deny that Jesus was a mighty prophet who performed miracles by the permission of God, but it must be said that his predecessors also performed miracles and that they even surpassed him,
Take a look at Melchizedek the Priest who has no father or mother, without genealogy, without beginning of days or end of life". .does it mean that Melchizedek was also god? Of course not!. yet Jesus has a beginning, he was created with the Word "from Allah" and NOT de "word of Allah", big difference between OF or FROM Allah?
As we can see from de following verses; “The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only an apostle of Allah, and His Word that He cast toward Mary and a spirit "from Him.” (4:171).
“Allah gives you the good news of John, as a confirmer of a "Word from God", eminent and chaste, a prophet, among the righteous.” (Aal-i-Mraan 3:39)
when Allah (swt) says “Verily when He intends a thing, His Command is: ‘Be!’ and it is!” yaseen, 82
Hope it was helpful.
@@gmc4733 Where does the Quran says Jesus a creator with his own power. He created the bird with the will of Allah not his own will which means Jesus was powerless. Adam was more unique without a father n mother but not God so was Eve.
Imagine believing in something that you are not even comfortable talking about. May Allah swt guide us all to the straight path AMEEN.
Greetings from Somalia.
The fact Jesus doesn’t know he is God is the biggest blunder. God is All Knowing.
Christians have this belief were Jesus could "swap identities" - sometimes he was acting as Jesus the mortal and other times as Jesus the God - how convenient this line of reasoning is 😂😂 the whole thing is a mess.
Br Mansur tour logic is unparalleled
May Allah reward you
Game over !!! When asked , “Did Mary know her son was GOD! “😂😢
The one who invented the trinity has made christians, sick, mad, and confused.
The one who invented the trinity has made christians, sick, mad, and confused.
The one who invented the trinity has made christians, sick, mad, and confused.
True, and you said it three times as well!
They already agree that it was a lie . But still believed in it’😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@ exactly 15.45 the African brother Allah ﷻ opened his eyes!Allahu Akbar!
Smiling of the camera guy at the back tells everything..:))
Christians have misunderstood the following verses.
Mark 2:27-28:
27 Then he (Jesus) said to them, “The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. 28 So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath.”
Look, the Pharisees had set up strict laws regarding how to observe the Sabbath. The Pharisees had instituted a complex and confusing system of Sabbath laws of their own that was oppressive and legalistic. In essence, these religious leaders had made themselves lords of the Sabbath, thus making themselves lords over the people.
In Mark 2:28, when Jesus said “So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath.” Jesus is saying to the Pharisees that God has given him the authority as a master (Lord) to correctly interpret the meaning not only other laws even of the Sabbath. God has given him the authority to overrule the Pharisees’ oppressive traditions and regulations that made themselves lords of the Sabbath.
Jesus was referring to the fact that the Sabbath was given to us as a gift. It is a day of rest and refreshment that we are to enjoy.
In Mark 2:27, when Jesus said “The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.” Jesus is saying that we are not to be slaves to the Sabbath, but rather we are to use it in a way that benefits us. Jesus was speaking to the Pharisees, who were hypocritically criticizing him for breaking the Sabbath. Even though Jesus was not breaking the Sabbath at all. He was trying to explain to them that the Sabbath was not meant to be a burden, but rather a day of rest and worship for people. When we use the Sabbath in this way, it will be a blessing to us.
Jesus was a prophet and a messenger of God. Jesus came to basically adjust the law to be better. So God has given Jesus the authority to determine the correct parameters for the Sabbath’s proper observance. God has given Jesus the authority to correctly interpret the meaning of the Sabbath and all the laws pertaining to it.
"I can debate with 10 people who are knowledgeable but I will be defeated by the ignorant, because ignorant people will never understand the basic of knowledge" (Imam Shafi'i)
He sounds like a hindo-christian 🤯💥🥶
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One Trinity: Million Concepts.
The Christian guy took Thor movie seriously....
ask the christians, who ordered the roman soldiers to kill god? 🤔🙃😅😁
Who was it? Jews?
@@donniedarkodarko2773
No, God himself because it was His plan. My question is to you for what purpose and to appease whom?
We all have free will and have a choice to do bad or good. The roman soldiers killed Jesus based on their own free will. God did not order them to do so. God is not bound by time but can see the future and can see that the Roman soldiers are evil and would kill anyone who was righteous. So, God plans to enter creation and die in the hands of the Roman soldiers. God just uses their free will to achieve his plan. God did not tell them to kill Jesus. They did so based on their own evil desires. God can use the free will of both good and evil people to achieve his plans because his is all knowing and has the power of prophesy.
@@gmc4733 какой же у вас слабый бог если его может убить римские солдаты
@@mobdyc8267 Why does the Allah of the Quran needs prophets to preach his word. Is he weak enough to not be able to enter creation and speak himself? Or can't he just speak loudly from heaven itself so that every person everywhere can hear his word? What is the purpose of prophets? Your answer to this question should answer the question you asked me.
Roots, branches, and leafs make up a tree ok so who made the seed
How to defend the undefendable 🤯
*Dude gets owned big time with no judging anyone only then to say the opposite.*
Hinduism 🤝 Christianity
Jesus is a messenger, Jesus is not a God, man cannot be a God, man is a human, human cannot create the world, the heaven and earth, God God will 🙏 but Jesus is a great messenger. Why Christian is having a hard time to understand that. As a Hindu I believe God almighty is not human 🙏 I believe Jesus is a messenger.
Matthew:16v13-20
Prove the trinity?! You have no bible verses.
If a Muslim said salvation is through suicide bombing, no Christians would give Islam a second thought. But if a Christian says God came down to Earth in human form on a suicide mission, everyone jumps on board because he did it out of love.
Infinity + infinity + infinity = infinity
what do you means 0+0+0=0
it means christian believe 0 God which according to christian believe bible is not given them perfect information of god why in the bible jesus say jhon 17.3 father is the only true God. this statement was not valid according to christian? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@naturalvillien4490 zero is not infinity you idiot . GOD is Devine and unlimited , cannot be measured.
25:50 *WAFFLING* like a 🤡 Will *NOT* help you on judgment day!!! SMH ❤️🕋❤️
If 3 in 1 God..is meant 1 person have 33.33, percent and by 3 the answer is 100percent this logical answer.😭😭😭
Muslim and Christianity differences by this formula:
Muslim: Jesus Christ ( 100% Mortal, 0% God )
Christianity: Jesus Christ ( 100% Mortal, 100% God )
Jesus mother doesn't knew he was God
Jesus himself didn't knew he was God
His followers didn't know he was God
Good question did Mary know that Jesus pbuh was God
I would prefer brother Mansur to handle the so-called atheist and brother Hashim, Trinitarians.
Then they send The African ex slave whose master were White Christian Missionaries who is brainwashed. The funny thing he said to Mansur “ You are using your logic which our creator gave us.”😢😂
Bro Mansor pls the guy is trembling give him some way off...pity him
What in the name of Allah was that last man on about. How can rape and accepting false gods have to do with each other.
Allahu Akbar 💚 ☝🏽
is Jesus 33% + Holy Ghost 33% + Father 34% = 100% ? lol
That’s typical Christianity nonsense arguing with out the fact n start preaching nonstop, one minute Jesus pbuh is god n then says there’s verse says I cannot do anything with the father/god lol, he said oooow yeah 😂😂😂
He didn't know what is talking about.
The THREE are Fused together and sit on the same throne holding hands each one pulling in a different direction Imagine three beings / entities fused into one the greatest combination of powers 😂😂😂
When you ask a Christian what *Forward* means? They will tell you it means *Backwards!!* 🤦🏽😂🤣
*There is Only One True God!!*
Christians: No there’s Father, Son and Holy Spirit! they are One but they are Three Mystery!! 🤦🏽😂🤣
*God can do Absolutely Anything!!*
Christians: No, he Can’t forgive us without blood and a Human Sacrifice!! 🤦🏽😂🤣
*I and the Father are One in Purpose and Teachings!!*
Christians: I and the Father are One but don’t have the Same Wills!! 🤦🏽😂🤣
*I AM* - When God said to Moses I am what I am what is it to you go forth and do what I told you to do!!
Christians: We’ve Cracked it! His name is I AM!! 🤦🏽😂🤣
*There are No Gods Before or After Me and No Other Gods beside Me!!*
Christians: There’s Another God standing on the Right and Another God Hovering around!! 🤦🏽😂🤣
*God is Not a Man that No Man can see!!*
Christian’s: God became Man and not only Seen by Everyone but he keeps coming to our Bedrooms and revealing himself to us!! 🤦🏽😂🤣
*God is Immortal and Can Not Die!!*
Christian’s: He got the Bejesus knocked out of him and then Died by his own creation for our sins but he didn’t really die because he came back again so our Sins nearly got forgiven!! 🤦🏽😂🤣
*God is Not the Author of Confusion!!*
Christian’s: Catholics We’ve got the Holy Spirit, Protestants No we’ve got the Holy Spirit, 58,000 other Christian sects and denominations all at loggerheads all claiming to be possessed by the Holy Spirit!! Not One can Agree with the other!! 🤦🏽😆😂🤣
*ALLAH HU AKBAR* ❤️🕋❤️
Trinity is very simple. The attributes of God like his wisdom, knowledge, mercy, word all represent God and we cannot know God without his attributes. Jesus is called the Word of God in both the Quran and the Bible. This makes Jesus God. Since the word of God proceeds from God, the same way Jesus proceeds from the Father. The word of God and God are of the same essence which is divine. This makes Jesus and the Father both Divine and one God.
Muslims believe the Quran is eternal and also Allah is eternal. This means that there are two Gods in heaven, Allah and the Word of Allah. But, Muslims say there is only one God. Muslims believe 1+1=1(Allah + Word of Allah=Allah) but when Christians believe the same things, they have an issue.
In the same way, the Word of God(Jesus) and the Father(God) and the Spirit of God are one.
@@gmc4733 GOD is not the Author of *CONFUSION!!* 🤔🤦🏽
In the Beginning was CONFUSION and CONFUSION was with CONFUSION and CONFUSION became CONFUSION because
Apparently GOD created GOD to pray to GOD to save GOD from GOD only to reject GOD to Kill GOD because GOD worships GOD!!
The WORD became FLESH and flesh became CIRCUMCISED and then Flesh became DEAD but after Planting for 2 days Flesh became WORD again!! = Sins NEARLY got forgiven because FLESH not DEAD!! 🤦🏽
Anyone else CONFUSED? 🤔😳
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@@gmc4733 Now Answer my Question!! What does the Word *ONLY* mean???? Get your DICTIONARY out and then we can PROVE your Not Lying!!!! SMH
@@gmc4733 👈It’s *VERY* Easy to *EXPOSE* Pagan Liars!! Just ask them Either one of these two Questions!!
What does the Word *ONLY* mean in your New Testament John 17:3 (They will Divert by *WAFFLING* about Context and Running to other Verses instead of answering what *ONLY* means!!!)
Or Ask them to Give you The *NAME* of GOD in their New Testament??? the Christians so called god in their So called New Covenant Testament has *ZERO* Names of GOD because their god Loved them So Much he didn’t Bless them with his NAME!! (They will try to Deceive you with the name Yeshua/Jahova or YHWY (Yesua is Not YHWY) and start hitting you with Titles and Definitions!!) But NEVER be able to give you GODS NAME!!
And with their Last Futile Attempts tell you Muslims don’t Understand the Bible because you have to Have the Holy Spirit!! (When there are Over 60,000 Different Christian Sects and Denominations all at loggerheads who’s got the Holy Spirit) And to Finish off (RUN) they will tell you Jesus Loves You! (when we know Jesus is a Muslim and Already Loves Us!!)
Pagans EXPOSED and their Desperate Attempts ANNIHILATED!!
*ALLAH HU AKBAR* ❤️🕋❤️
Delusional Christian, you have to feel sorry for him, may Allah guide him to the correct path.
Please someone tell this guy to make up his mind❤❤❤
he is In Trouble because it is difficulty to explain three Gods in one,
Jesus never and ever claims to be God
Assallamoalykum brothers when Jesus pbuh comes back he will first confirm that he is Muslim and his religion is Islam same as all prophets of Allah swt.Jesus pbuh will also tell the Christian that he is Not God,and to the Jews he will confirm that he is the Mesiah.Jesus pbuh will invite all humanbeing to only one religion which is excpted by Allah swt which is Islam.Jesus pbuh has come back as ummati of Muhammad pbuh. Imam Mahdi and Jesus pbuh will rule by the laws of Allah swt.Main religion in the world will be Islam
Jesus who bodily dwells in him all the fullness of the divinity without any interest for him. (Colossians 2:9) said, “As for the day or the hour, no one knows, neither the angels in heaven, NOR THE SON, but the Father alone. (Mark 13:32)
Nor Jesus the man,
Nor Jesus the god,
Nor Jesus the flesh,
Neither Jesus the 100% man,
Neither Jesus the god 100%,
Nor Jesus fully man,
Nor Jesus fully god,
Nor Jesus the Son of God,
Nor Jesus the son of man,
Nor Jesus on earth,
Nor Jesus in heaven,
Nor Jesus before being glorified,
Nor Jesus after being glorified,
Neither Jesus the alpha and the omega,
Neither Jesus the first and the last,
Nor Jesus the king of kings,
Nor the holy spirit,
Neither the angels nor anyone else...
Knew the hour of the day of judgment.
But the FATHER (ALONE + ALONE + ALONE) who knew the time.
THE FATHER, THE ONE TRUE GOD as Jesus himself said in (John 17:3) who knows the moment of this hour.
But Christians did not like that these words of Jesus are found in their Bibles and they do not know whether to reject these words of Jesus or twist their meaning by any means or...
So according to these own words of Jesus, Jesus and the Holy Spirit in all their states and in all their forms and in all places...are not god and do not deserve to be god or to be part of the absurd trinity... they are not coequal with the Father because of their ignorance…they are imperfect and therefore they did not deserve to be worshipped.
Jesus, the judge, is now still glued to his father in his chair side by side (and they have been like this for more than 2,000 years now without moving) but he does not know what time the father will give the green light to the judgments!!!
jesues a. mother mary born jesue so why mary died but god allah immortal for ever and director of sun rise and set and koran knowledgeless man barbarian beast and hell way man
What you on about as such poor grammar and sentence structure can’t understand your point
Trinity jesus bible sky roman babylon potato savage equality the heaven of we are marocco worldcup jews , christian pagan belief mango juice .
@@shahidhussain9176 😁🤣
@@crusaderslayer
Good reply to him spoke in his language
@@shahidhussain9176 no need to be rude maybe he cant write English but yet he is doing his best , he is a Muslim . He is saying if Jesus ( pbuh) was god then why his mother Mary ( as) died and why he died and he is saying that Allah is the creator and king of the worlds and only Allah does the sunset etc . Dont get why Muslims being rude and hateful to eachother. English isnt either my first neither second language so before you start about that too .
i think Mansoor is unfair over here.we audience wanna hear what the other person has to say also but he is just over speaks the guy.that is not good honest.there is no point im going to continue untill the end then.
Trinity is very simple. The attributes of God like his wisdom, knowledge, mercy, word all represent God and we cannot know God without his attributes. Jesus is called the Word of God in both the Quran and the Bible. This makes Jesus God. Since the word of God proceeds from God, the same way Jesus proceeds from the Father. The word of God and God are of the same essence which is divine. This makes Jesus and the Father both Divine and one God.
Muslims believe the Quran is eternal and also Allah is eternal. This means that there are two Gods in heaven, Allah and the Word of Allah. But, Muslims say there is only one God. Muslims believe 1+1=1(Allah + Word of Allah=Allah) but when Christians believe the same things, they have an issue.
In the same way, the Word of God(Jesus) and the Father(God) and the Spirit of God are one.
Quran never say Jesus is God. All St.Pauls creative. Jesus pray to father. That mean God pray to God?
@@struckingltd.8100 Jesus referred to another entity who was the Father. The reason being when Jesus entered creation he lowered himself lower than the angels and took to himself a human nature. So, Jesus has two nature's divine and human in the same person of Christ. The same way in quantum mechanics, light has two natures: wave and particles. The human nature of Christ had to eat, sleep, pray, etc. Prayer means dialogue. Jesus would not be speaking to himself nor would be an atheist not believing in God. He had to pray or speak to the Father in heaven. God exists everywhere. When Jesus came to earth, heaven was not empty. There was God in heaven as well as earth. God in heaven was the Father. God on earth is the Son. There are not two different Gods but the same God existing in different persons in earth and heaven. The human nature of Jesus prayed to the Father in heaven.
When you ask a Christian what *Forward* means? They will tell you it means *Backwards!!* 🤦🏽😂🤣
*There is Only One True God!!*
Christians: No there’s Father, Son and Holy Spirit! they are One but they are Three Mystery!! 🤦🏽😂🤣
*God can do Absolutely Anything!!*
Christians: No, he Can’t forgive us without blood and a Human Sacrifice!! 🤦🏽😂🤣
*I and the Father are One in Purpose and Teachings!!*
Christians: I and the Father are One but don’t have the Same Wills!! 🤦🏽😂🤣
*I AM* - When God said to Moses I am what I am what is it to you go forth and do what I told you to do!!
Christians: We’ve Cracked it! His name is I AM!! 🤦🏽😂🤣
*There are No Gods Before or After Me and No Other Gods beside Me!!*
Christians: There’s Another God standing on the Right and Another God Hovering around!! 🤦🏽😂🤣
*God is Not a Man that No Man can see!!*
Christian’s: God became Man and not only Seen by Everyone but he keeps coming to our Bedrooms and revealing himself to us!! 🤦🏽😂🤣
*God is Immortal and Can Not Die!!*
Christian’s: He got the Bejesus knocked out of him and then Died by his own creation for our sins but he didn’t really die because he came back again so our Sins nearly got forgiven!! 🤦🏽😂🤣
*God is Not the Author of Confusion!!*
Christian’s: Catholics We’ve got the Holy Spirit, Protestants No we’ve got the Holy Spirit, 58,000 other Christian sects and denominations all at loggerheads all claiming to be possessed by the Holy Spirit!! Not One can Agree with the other!! 🤦🏽😆😂🤣
*ALLAH HU AKBAR* ❤️🕋❤️
@@gmc4733 👈Let’s see if PAGAN🤡 can answer ONE ☝🏼 Simple Question?
What does the Word *ONLY* mean????
John 17:3 This is life eternal so that they know *YOU* the *ONLY* TRUE GOD and jesus christ whom you sent
Get your DICTIONARY out and Explain what *ONLY* means?????
SIMPLE question!! I don’t want *WAFFLES* about Context and who got the BEJESUS knocked out of him because I *ONLY* want to know what the word *ONLY* means?????? 🤔
Why the human nature of Jesus didn’t pray to to Jesus ( to his divine nature)?
11:20 the fall of Christianity
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I mean they're trained in churches to always run away from logic questions
@JohnT lol you're trinitarian
It's time time use your brain once in your life.
According to your man made Roman pagan unknown authors bibles
Ismail is son of God
Abraham is son God
Adam is THE son of God
Lol 😆 use your brain
@@user-tp3hg4se1s lol your own bible refutes your nonsense
Job 25
How can one born of woman be pure?
5 If even the moon is not bright
and the stars are not pure in his eyes,
6 how much less a mortal, who is but a maggot (worm)
a human being, who is only a worm!
((God is a worm))
😂😂😂😂
The born of a women is not pure
Who's god again ?
😂😂😂
Christians waffle to avoid answering the actual questions! Dishonesty!
@@user-tp3hg4se1s Mark 10:18 - Jesus says "I'm going to my Father and your Father, to My God and your God" . John 17:3 Jesus says "Father is the Only True God'"
The Lord's prayer is directed at the Father - no mention of the trinity nonsense. Yet you quote ambiguous verses and read into scripture your own interpretations that go against Jesus's explicit direct statements.
Oh Christians, how hard you try to defend all the lies and stories found in your so called holy book. You ever wonder why they call the bible, "The call the Bible the greatest story ever told'? lmao
Worship Almighty God Creator Savior YHWH Yeshua the I Am of Bible.. or.
Allah the god of Mecca, Muhammad, Sharia, Quran, Jinn, Kaaba and Blackstone..
God is one Being the what and 3 Persons the who...