This is a very cool video. I've also been into foam planes for a long time. But now I live in a country where foam is a very expensive material. It’s cheaper for me to buy a ready-made plane from Aliexpress. I think that by covering the plane with tape you gained a lot of weight. 1. What is the weight of the aircraft without batteries. 2. How many batteries fit inside. 3. What is the load on the wing. 4. What is the cruise speed? 5. How far did you manage to fly on the battery (in other words, how many kilometers can the plane stay in the air on one battery). Thank you very much. The plane turned out to be very beautiful and flying. Pavel
I would love to see how this performs, some actual footage from the drone, the range, how you setup waypoints and get autonomous flight, how it takes off and lands. I would also love to see in detail how you setup the electronics, paired your controller and what controller you use.
Thank you for this super interesting sharing for this beautifull plane 😛the construction techniques used here are great: solid, cheap 🤑, materials easy to find 🤓. Personally I have no problems with the construction but I have more difficulty with the configuration of INAV 🤯If in your next video you could detail really very very precisely step by step the configuration for the poor NOOB that I am (and boomer at that!! 56 years old 😬) I will be extremely grateful to you 🤩. a big hello from France 😜
Nice design, one suggestions for an improvement would be if you or anyone wanting to recreate the boom and mid wing design is to 3D print a rib shape with cutouts for spars on the profile and on the trailing edge a hole for the spars. I have printed such a part before and find it to be pretty big improvement in terms of having the booms solidly and rigidly attached to the wing without wobbling etc. Might even make them completely removable if you drill a small hole through the boom and attach them with a small clip through the entire wing in similar fashion to how RC car bodywork shells often are attached to the actual RC car.
great stuff man! have you considered implementing 3d printing into your builds? at least for the fuselage you could improve efficiency, make it easier to install your components and once the design is done you can just reprint broken parts essentially effortlessly over night.
I'll take it one step further... you're such an inspiration I am going to build the airframe even though I have zero clue how to do the electronics, HAVE any of the electronics [including a radio] or know how to fly an RC! [I'm not foolin!]
Hi there. Your material on TH-cam is all excellent, thanks so much. Of all the builds you have posted, which would you say is the easiest for a newbie to attempt? Also, what controller do you use?
Thanks! I'd start with the Silent Star series (old build video, red/white V-Tail Tractor FPV Plane) That is the easiest to build & fly. Second place would be the V-Tail Pusher design.
Great video, I just have a few questions. How did you attach the ailerons to the wings? Did you just use tape? How did you make the motor mount? Thanks.
Wings are taped to each other to prevent sliding away from the center-wing. Motor mount is a 90-degree metal plate with drilled holes to permanently mount the motor to one side.
Great video, thank you very much. I am wondering what transmitter do you use with FrSky X8R 8/16ch Receiver? Do you have recommendations on this? Preferably affordable ones?
Hello AeroStuff FPV I have been following your build video's as my ref point to building my own Silver Specter, are you going to do a video showing how you built your own 4S battery and how you install the camera gear (D.S.L.R camera) in the bay. Thank You
Nice. Just observing... For a free flight model airplane, this design and most of the others you showed look very short-coupled longitudinally. That is, the tail boom looks short. This may mean the stabilization needs to work hard for pitch stability. The drone footage seems to confirm this (though of course there's no way to know wind conditions in those). Same for small dihedral and roll stability. A good free flight design with longer coupling and dihedral does an amazing job of flying steadily through weather on its own.
It's a tradeoff stability vs maneuverability. Short coupled planes are funner to fly and handle better at speed generally. For gliders and super efficient slow self stable planes ya pretty much the longer the boom, smaller the tail surface and higher the aspect ratio the better.
I was just wondering when the aluminum mentioned in the parts is used and for what because I haven't seen it used, I may just be missing it. If anyone can help, thx.
Genuine question, how do you find places to fly these planes? I want to build something like this but I don't want to fly over other people's property. Any tips???
As an avid RC flyer/modeller, just wondering, how about large wing span with wide wing cord, filled with helium also covered with solar panels, the idea of maximum flight time,back in the day built a Ben Buckel this thing was so efficient it was difficult to get it down
than k you for that great video, what is the the type of the foam board you use. the grey and white one also if you can provide the thickness of the both foam boards thank you
apologies for asking a question that may have be asked already but what is the angel of the V notch in the V tail. Great video i am almost done with my construction. Thank You
Should be 90 degrees, that’s the standard for these designs to be centered for lift and yaw, but sometimes people will go one way or the other depending the goal of the aircraft, less angle if you want more lift and more angle if you want more maneuverability
Ukraine has a very similar looking long range drone for one way trips called Lyutyi ( Fierce )... 1000km range, it must be gas powered and probably twice as big. It uses computer vision right at the end to decide precisely where to "land."
Hola , que buen proyecto . Me interesa replicarlo para volarlo en mi pais . Me podrias compartir la dostancia de los boom que tiene entre el ala y el empenaje ? Que buen video
Please upload more details about installment of electronics and flight setup like controllers or preparation of ground station. Thx a lot I am gonna try:))
I'm building it now. I think it's great, affordable too. He said what needed programming in the video, you can search up separately for electronics and autonomous control
Awesome build. I'm trying the taping method for 5mm EPS but having an issue with the board curving a bit every time I'm adding a new tapes strip. Anything I can do better? Also, as a beginner would I get more chances of achieving lift if I tilt the wings a few degrees up? I'm not sure my result aerofoil is curved enough Thanks.
Yes, if you tilt them up a little you can get a little more lift, but you will also be pushing through the air more instead of cutting, this can result in an earlier stall speed of the aircraft, it takes a little tuning to make it work
Amazing stuff this reminds me when i attempted to make a drone in highschool. I used similar materials but it just crashed. Where did you learn to design and build aircraft like this?
@@AeroStuffFPV If you forget for a while about structural stuff, then you are practically limited to the Power/Weight ratio. Obv, the more load on wings the higher the stall speed therefore it has to fly faster to be airborne. And of course, pitch speed of prop. I am sure now your P/W is at least 1.0+ Double the weight and you got hard time to launch it - toss it above stall speed. There is a nice calculator online (eCalc), slightly limited in free version but can provide some general idea how a plane will perform.
The ALU profile is used ONLY as a temp placeholder. Bad idea to use ALU in wings especially. If you manage to bend it by crash you got a hard time to yank it out and replace. So, carbon spar.
Cool build! I always wonder how much loading can the glued mid section take. Yeah it's UAV so no aerobatics but still what's the upper limit. Will you try some loops? 😅 Good you trust it anyway! 2kg AUW with 25.5 dm² seems like it needs some good toss for launch. Let's wait for the next flight video 👏👍
Thanks Valkyrie! This design does loops with ease with 1.7-1.8kg AUW. I'm not sure how much it'll takeoff/fly with at maximum. I don't have that formula. I'd generously guess between 3.5-5kg
try with T-motor or Graupner propellers, they are a bit more expensive than gemfans but from my experience they are more efficient. EDIT: T-motors are named Eolo.
I don't see a reason why not. It's pretty much "just scaling down" the dimensions. More important would be to keep the weight right proportionally to the size. If you keep the exact same electronic as in this build, you will end up with higher loading on smaller wings.
@@AeroStuffFPVi also thinking to use 14" prop. Is there enough clearence? Or should i make the gap between the to boom wider (by also increasing the length of the center wing to 50 or 60cm)?
The first hobby flight controller was called multiwii, (technically triflight i believe) it ran on an arduino and a wii motion plus gyro board. Now days that's really outdated but, it's totally possible. If you want to build your own you'd be much better off running inav on a f411 blackpill or similar board though and really you can get fc's that'll run inav for about the same price as a mcu and gyro board and you'll want all the extra stuff on an fc like osd, voltage regulators, etc.
I think 3d printing is best for things like mounts, control horns and other small and intricate parts that need to be strong, once you start printing big stuff that needs to be light it gets brittle and heavy so you're better with foam for durability and weight. 3d printed ribs with foam covering is an interesting concept to me though.
I have access to the EA channel, I'm uploading my videos there too! Ed trusted me to continue the legacy of the channel, giving me permission to upload.
It wouldn't be of much interest and would also considerably increase the weight. The type of construction used here is sufficiently strong without the need for additional structural reinforcements. We must never forget that weight is the ultimate enemy for an RC plane.......
@@sylvainponchelet4188Not entirely true, proper fiberglassing can produce stiffer parts at less weight due to its tensile strength. Just look at competition gliders. I like to reinforce wing joints, motor mounts etc. with carbon fiber and it makes for insanely strong light weight builds.
Where do you buy the silver tape you use to wrap your aircraft? It is not reinforced like duct tape. Can you give me a link to the store that sells your silver tape?
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With each iteration, I see your planes are getting better along with your building technique
The triangle in the back helps tremendously for the balance and leverage of lift in comparison to the first. Great job.
Jim Kalin back at it again with the donations, what a legend.
Once again, you've created another amazing looking plane! Really well done! I may have to build this plane! Thanks for sharing your builds!
This is a very cool video. I've also been into foam planes for a long time. But now I live in a country where foam is a very expensive material.
It’s cheaper for me to buy a ready-made plane from Aliexpress.
I think that by covering the plane with tape you gained a lot of weight.
1. What is the weight of the aircraft without batteries.
2. How many batteries fit inside.
3. What is the load on the wing.
4. What is the cruise speed?
5. How far did you manage to fly on the battery (in other words, how many kilometers can the plane stay in the air on one battery).
Thank you very much. The plane turned out to be very beautiful and flying.
Pavel
for cheap foam try the insulating foam used for putting under floorboards , where i live its really cheap and you can find i in any hardware store
Great content love the time put into the explanation we need more people like u in the hobby
Hi man, I love your videos! They finally inspired me to pick up a project of my own and see how far I can get!
The inverted ‘V’ tail also eliminates the problem of adverse roll.
Yep it makes coordinated turns super easy and efficient.
I like how you take time to be through. Thank you for this build.
I would love to see how this performs, some actual footage from the drone, the range, how you setup waypoints and get autonomous flight, how it takes off and lands. I would also love to see in detail how you setup the electronics, paired your controller and what controller you use.
Really cool idea with V-tail
Thanks!
I think they're called A-tail or inverted V-tail.
Hello sir I am unable to find your old builds like T-tail fpv, swept back wing fpv can you please upload those old video again
That's beautiful!🥹
I love these builds and videos! 🎉
Glad to hear!
Thank you for this super interesting sharing for this beautifull plane 😛the construction techniques used here are great: solid, cheap 🤑, materials easy to find 🤓. Personally I have no problems with the construction but I have more difficulty with the configuration of INAV 🤯If in your next video you could detail really very very precisely step by step the configuration for the poor NOOB that I am (and boomer at that!! 56 years old 😬) I will be extremely grateful to you 🤩. a big hello from France 😜
Nice design, one suggestions for an improvement would be if you or anyone wanting to recreate the boom and mid wing design is to 3D print a rib shape with cutouts for spars on the profile and on the trailing edge a hole for the spars. I have printed such a part before and find it to be pretty big improvement in terms of having the booms solidly and rigidly attached to the wing without wobbling etc. Might even make them completely removable if you drill a small hole through the boom and attach them with a small clip through the entire wing in similar fashion to how RC car bodywork shells often are attached to the actual RC car.
great stuff man! have you considered implementing 3d printing into your builds? at least for the fuselage you could improve efficiency, make it easier to install your components and once the design is done you can just reprint broken parts essentially effortlessly over night.
I've considered 3D Frames but I'm not on it yet.
@@AeroStuffFPVA lot of people don't have a 3d printer. Me included
Very impressive! Well done! Happy flying!
@AeroStuff FPV: Thanks for your motivational content! Would you recommend this or the flying wing to start with building my first UAV?
Thanks! I recommend the twin boom design, being less complex to perfectly balance & fly.
@@AeroStuffFPV thank you
I'll take it one step further... you're such an inspiration I am going to build the airframe even though I have zero clue how to do the electronics, HAVE any of the electronics [including a radio] or know how to fly an RC! [I'm not foolin!]
Have you started making it yet?
@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 im afraid lifes gotten in the way. this winter perhaps
Great video, I'm already buying the materials to make one like it, it will be my first aero model
Hi there. Your material on TH-cam is all excellent, thanks so much. Of all the builds you have posted, which would you say is the easiest for a newbie to attempt? Also, what controller do you use?
Thanks! I'd start with the Silent Star series (old build video, red/white V-Tail Tractor FPV Plane) That is the easiest to build & fly. Second place would be the V-Tail Pusher design.
Great video, I just have a few questions.
How did you attach the ailerons to the wings? Did you just use tape?
How did you make the motor mount?
Thanks.
Wings are taped to each other to prevent sliding away from the center-wing.
Motor mount is a 90-degree metal plate with drilled holes to permanently mount the motor to one side.
@AeroStuffFPV Thanks for the quick reply. I can't find 5mm depron anywhere. Would it be fine if I just use foamboard for everything?
@Mike-ur4ij it should be
have you considered sticking solar panels on the wings to enhance flight time?
Great video, thank you very much. I am wondering what transmitter do you use with FrSky X8R 8/16ch Receiver? Do you have recommendations on this? Preferably affordable ones?
Taranis X9D Plus SE
You can use any transmitter that goes with FrSky Protocols
What drone are you using to capture this great aerial footage? Another one with gimbal?
Mini 2
Great work
Hello AeroStuff FPV I have been following your build video's as my ref point to building my own Silver Specter, are you going to do a video showing how you built your own 4S battery and how you install the camera gear (D.S.L.R camera) in the bay. Thank You
Awesome! Stupid question can you use the same method in smaller scale ? Because I have a small drone and was thinking using its motors?
Yes, absolutely. I got a separate video how I design & scale my planes: th-cam.com/video/b4DrhALWAJs/w-d-xo.html
@@AeroStuffFPV thank you for reaching back and i appreciate it
Nice. Just observing... For a free flight model airplane, this design and most of the others you showed look very short-coupled longitudinally. That is, the tail boom looks short. This may mean the stabilization needs to work hard for pitch stability. The drone footage seems to confirm this (though of course there's no way to know wind conditions in those). Same for small dihedral and roll stability. A good free flight design with longer coupling and dihedral does an amazing job of flying steadily through weather on its own.
It's a tradeoff stability vs maneuverability. Short coupled planes are funner to fly and handle better at speed generally. For gliders and super efficient slow self stable planes ya pretty much the longer the boom, smaller the tail surface and higher the aspect ratio the better.
tell me which module you use for blinking LEDs???
you are such an inspiration!
He’s back 😮
Can you make for in the Future also a video about the electronics -> Matek/Gps/video transmitter, How to set everything up ( connect )
Thanks!
Thanks for a great video. Curious about what strobe module you're using?
Thanks you very much man! It's called: 4LED Car Strobe Warning Light
I was just wondering when the aluminum mentioned in the parts is used and for what because I haven't seen it used, I may just be missing it. If anyone can help, thx.
If you look you can see it being used to slide in the center main wing, it extends out to the other side wings that attach afterwards
It's autonomous?! Wow! Someone actually used the correct definition of the word drone besides me for once.
Very efficient and simple, 😮👍
Great video! Thanks for the links also. I wish you focus on the electrics in one of your "how to" videos
Considered !
Hello really nice plane and evolution. I want to try it. Just wanted to know to set CG
Genuine question, how do you find places to fly these planes? I want to build something like this but I don't want to fly over other people's property. Any tips???
Google maps satellite view. If you want to fly long range you plan you're flights accordingly.
As an avid RC flyer/modeller, just wondering, how about large wing span with wide wing cord, filled with helium also covered with solar panels, the idea of maximum flight time,back in the day built a Ben Buckel this thing was so efficient it was difficult to get it down
What was the total cost? Do you also have a blog with the parts list?
than k you for that great video, what is the the type of the foam board you use. the grey and white one
also if you can provide the thickness of the both foam boards
thank you
What is the range on this ? Looks cool 😎
apologies for asking a question that may have be asked already but what is the angel of the V notch in the V tail. Great video i am almost done with my construction.
Thank You
Should be 90 degrees, that’s the standard for these designs to be centered for lift and yaw, but sometimes people will go one way or the other depending the goal of the aircraft, less angle if you want more lift and more angle if you want more maneuverability
Ukraine has a very similar looking long range drone for one way trips called Lyutyi ( Fierce )... 1000km range, it must be gas powered and probably twice as big. It uses computer vision right at the end to decide precisely where to "land."
Thanks for sharing your good work. Where do you get the silver tape?
What bracket did you use to mount the motor?
Hola , que buen proyecto .
Me interesa replicarlo para volarlo en mi pais .
Me podrias compartir la dostancia de los boom que tiene entre el ala y el empenaje ?
Que buen video
650mm booms - Happy building!
@@AeroStuffFPV gracias 🫂
Can u make a VTOL 4+1 Uav
Would using a Volantex Phoenix 2400mm as a base be a good if I want to achieve long range fpv?
Please upload more details about installment of electronics and flight setup like controllers or preparation of ground station. Thx a lot I am gonna try:))
Is this a good beginner build? In interested in autonomous flight but don't know if it requires programming or anything
I'm building it now. I think it's great, affordable too. He said what needed programming in the video, you can search up separately for electronics and autonomous control
awesome man
Just a quick question outside the box: Can that flightcontroller be flashed to ArduRover?
Awesome build. I'm trying the taping method for 5mm EPS but having an issue with the board curving a bit every time I'm adding a new tapes strip. Anything I can do better?
Also, as a beginner would I get more chances of achieving lift if I tilt the wings a few degrees up? I'm not sure my result aerofoil is curved enough
Thanks.
Yes, if you tilt them up a little you can get a little more lift, but you will also be pushing through the air more instead of cutting, this can result in an earlier stall speed of the aircraft, it takes a little tuning to make it work
What's your opinion on Fuel cells other than the obvious high cost?
Amazing stuff this reminds me when i attempted to make a drone in highschool. I used similar materials but it just crashed. Where did you learn to design and build aircraft like this?
Here is a video about designing my own FPV Aircraft: th-cam.com/video/b4DrhALWAJs/w-d-xo.html
So nice ❤❤❤
recommended controller?
can you give information about the design of the airfoil
what is the airfoil use din the video ? i want to do some analysis on it
Armin Wing
Can you share the detailed drawings? pls
Terrific video, thank you for sharing. What’s the all up weight? What do you think its max weight capacity is? (I.e.. how much weight can it carry).
Thanks! AUW is about 1.8kg. I'm not sure how much it'll takeoff/fly with at maximum. I don't have that formula. I'd generously guess between 3.5-5kg
@@AeroStuffFPV If you forget for a while about structural stuff, then you are practically limited to the Power/Weight ratio.
Obv, the more load on wings the higher the stall speed therefore it has to fly faster to be airborne.
And of course, pitch speed of prop.
I am sure now your P/W is at least 1.0+
Double the weight and you got hard time to launch it - toss it above stall speed.
There is a nice calculator online (eCalc), slightly limited in free version but can provide some general idea how a plane will perform.
Can vynil wrap be used instead of tape?
I’ve done it before, can be a little heavier depending the quality you use, lots of rc hobbies use it
@@coreytroxler8776 tyvm for the info
can u tell me what was the estimated speed
Nice job!!! 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
Awesome
what is the width of the metal profile between the two foam pads?
I'm building it, I wasn't sure but it looks like 3/16th an in, that's what I did
bro where you fix the battery.
Yes pls tell me
Are the aluminum wing spars glued into the wings or fuselage?
The ALU profile is used ONLY as a temp placeholder. Bad idea to use ALU in wings especially. If you manage to bend it by crash you got a hard time to yank it out and replace. So, carbon spar.
what kind of flashing module is on the back? thx;)
Cool build! I always wonder how much loading can the glued mid section take. Yeah it's UAV so no aerobatics but still what's the upper limit. Will you try some loops? 😅 Good you trust it anyway!
2kg AUW with 25.5 dm² seems like it needs some good toss for launch.
Let's wait for the next flight video 👏👍
Thanks Valkyrie! This design does loops with ease with 1.7-1.8kg AUW. I'm not sure how much it'll takeoff/fly with at maximum. I don't have that formula. I'd generously guess between 3.5-5kg
@@AeroStuffFPV Ah that's great, impressive! I think that capability is reduced with freezing temps as hot glue gets more brittle? 🤔
Correct, but hot-glue joints are reinforced with duct tapes or fiber tapes to cover & minimize glued parts to pop open or loose.
@@AeroStuffFPV Yeah, I am neither fan of "glue-only"
try with T-motor or Graupner propellers, they are a bit more expensive than gemfans but from my experience they are more efficient. EDIT: T-motors are named Eolo.
I really like master airscrew.
Is it possible in smaler scale like 1meter wingspan?
I don't see a reason why not. It's pretty much "just scaling down" the dimensions. More important would be to keep the weight right proportionally to the size. If you keep the exact same electronic as in this build, you will end up with higher loading on smaller wings.
Yes, absolutely. I got a video how I design & scale my planes: th-cam.com/video/b4DrhALWAJs/w-d-xo.html
Could i use 50cm tail boom? Will there any performance penalties, other than change in cg?
Yes performance will change
@@AeroStuffFPV Wow, thank you for replying. Is it better to go 50cm, or 1m? Because i haven't found any 65cm carbon tube in my local e-commerce
@@AeroStuffFPVi also thinking to use 14" prop. Is there enough clearence? Or should i make the gap between the to boom wider (by also increasing the length of the center wing to 50 or 60cm)?
where are you getting xps foam in US I cant seem to find it
Would an Arduino work as a flight controller?
The first hobby flight controller was called multiwii, (technically triflight i believe) it ran on an arduino and a wii motion plus gyro board. Now days that's really outdated but, it's totally possible. If you want to build your own you'd be much better off running inav on a f411 blackpill or similar board though and really you can get fc's that'll run inav for about the same price as a mcu and gyro board and you'll want all the extra stuff on an fc like osd, voltage regulators, etc.
can you make a video of what wires you put thru the back beams at 10:32?
Those wires are for the servo motors to move the rear servos to tilt the rear upside down v
Fantastic buddy
Have you thought about 3D Printing your design
It's a consideration for the future.
I think 3d printing is best for things like mounts, control horns and other small and intricate parts that need to be strong, once you start printing big stuff that needs to be light it gets brittle and heavy so you're better with foam for durability and weight. 3d printed ribs with foam covering is an interesting concept to me though.
Muito bom vídeo, um abraço do Brasil
Hey i saw a video with the same aircraft but not from your channel by experimental airlines i dont know if you know this but just letting you know
I have access to the EA channel, I'm uploading my videos there too! Ed trusted me to continue the legacy of the channel, giving me permission to upload.
Have you experimented with fiberglass?
It wouldn't be of much interest and would also considerably increase the weight. The type of construction used here is sufficiently strong without the need for additional structural reinforcements. We must never forget that weight is the ultimate enemy for an RC plane.......
@@sylvainponchelet4188Not entirely true, proper fiberglassing can produce stiffer parts at less weight due to its tensile strength. Just look at competition gliders. I like to reinforce wing joints, motor mounts etc. with carbon fiber and it makes for insanely strong light weight builds.
Where do you buy the silver tape you use to wrap your aircraft? It is not reinforced like duct tape. Can you give me a link to the store that sells your silver tape?
Can I use other receiver like fs-IA6B?
Yes
I could see putting this in CAD.
what battery did you use?
4S 9600mAh Li Ion
@@AeroStuffFPV thank you very much
that's so fucking cool dude
Super🎉🎉
Can you sell it to me?
TB2 design