TotK greatly improves on the two main ideas of BotW: The physics engine, and seamlessness. Considering they pulled both of these off so well, on a SWITCH, with the pandemic undoubtedly getting in the way, I'm baffled we got a finished product at all. Whenever I dive from a sky island all the way to the Depths, or create a crazy bokoblin-killer-mech, I realize something. The devs behind this game are literal WIZARDS.
Don’t think it’s ever worth waiting that long for the game we got. The more I think about it, the more I realize they could have gone a much different direction, better game and for less time waited
Facts. First ever genuinely poor Zelda game. For a 6 year wait, how could they have not at least given us a new map. They BUILT BotW from the ground up in less time than we waited for Tears of the Kingdom.
And aside from the characters I already liked from BotW: (Sidon and Riju) the sages were no replacement for the champions in terms of emotional connections. Watching four characters come to grips with their deaths, and the different reasons they're champing at the bit to perform one final act from beyond the grave, is way more compelling than "Yes! Teamwork Guys!!!" in every cutscene. I think the climax is the only thing Tears did better. That final catch felt like closure for both stories and might be the peak of the whole series. That said, my Breath of the Wild preference is very small margin.
It was not worth the wait It is better than BotW But felt so similar in many ways to BotW that I feel it did not warrant the wait I’m looking forward to the next Zelda game feeling a lot I’m more “fresh”
I think that TOTK is simply not game for everyone, if u cannot enjoy the ultrahand function, you miss like 50% of fun this game can offer. For me, it was worth the way, because now I can be even more creative with the ways of killing enemies or just gettin around the map, there is simply no other game with these physics.
Found myself using the hoverbike 90% of the time. Even used it to cheese the water & fire temple. Ultrahand while a cool concept in my opinion never had that one defining moment for me throughout the almost 150hrs I put in the game. Lastly, while it's cool to use zonai devices to take on enemy bases is fun in the very beginning but as you progress it becomes much faster to just shoot fused arrows & your powerful weapons than to sit there & mess with a janky system.
But thats my issue with ultrahand; it takes up so much bandwidth of the game, but it ultimately has no real relevance in the grand scheme of the game's narrative. Did you need to use ultrahand or any zonai device to defeat Ganon? Nope, you just used the Master Sword. Ultrahand and the Zonai devices were interesting little gameplay gimmicks, but they just felt tacked on top of the greater narrative of the game. The game has alot of ideas & "stuff" thrown in it, but it lacks cohesion, finesse, and thematic consistency. Ultrahand felt janky alot of times to me and just didnt mesh well with the experience. Im glad you had fun, but i personally need more out of a game than physics and a wide map. to me, TOTK needed alot of things: a better user-interface; a map with more density & richer interesting content than just shrines and annoying NPCs; a much better reward-system; a combat-system that wasnt broken to high hell; puzzles & temples that werent mind-numbingly tedious; and a story that would actually make me feel something.
The only problem is that tears the kingdom is not getting a DLC and that absolutely tanked the player count everyone so loves the game but since we know there's no new content a lot of people just not been playing and even I got burnt out I'm currently playing breath of the wild for weapon modifier corruption and going on a black crusade
when a game is perfect and finshed you dont need a dlc . dlc is only mostime bullshit and bugfixes or stuff that wasrady at lunch . even with dlc gen z is burned out after 2 weaks normaly .
thats cus totk was the dlc for botw that became its own game, they put all thier extra ideas in totk. also theyre probaly tired of working on the same wolrd for over a decade now
12:14 so true about the master sword bro. How is it that it is bathed in Zelda’s light power for thousands of years and is worse than the one in Botw and only 40 durability? If you don’t wanna make it too op attack wise, keep it at 30 attack (45 against gloom) but it never breaks. Have the fused items break but the master sword absolutely should not
Honestly no i don’t think it was worth the wait. My expectations was that they would keep what worked in botw and fix all the issues. For example the puzzles. The dungeons has better music and visuals sure, but the puzzles are so surface level it hurts. Same with the shrines. There are only half a handfull of them thats even memerable. The puzzles of these newer zelda games are nothing compared to the other games. Another issue with the puzzles is that there are absolutely 0 restrictions of what you can do to solve them. For example you can just summon a hover bike any time you want to go where ever you want. Or in a shrine or temple, there is always an obvious, easy, cost effective and unsatisfying way to ”solve” every puzzle instead of doing it an interesting way, for example shooting one bomb at a switch for every switch you see. Thats my main complaint and at this point i wish nintendo would just go back to the linear zelda style
What I want to know is how long is the main quest is 30 to 60 then the rest is do whatever or is it a really short quest that’s like 10 hrs or less to beat then rest is just your mess around.
While totk may not be a dlc, it was confirmed by Nintendo to have it origins as a dlc to botw and it is quite evident in the final product given the extra toppings added to the same map.
I really liked totk, but for some reason botw just comes on top for me. I was in middle school when it can out and totk came out when I was senior. Something about botw , the hype, was just something else. I was excited for totk, but after I beat it I didn’t play it again. Which I don’t know why but it just didn’t have that click for me
So I didn't get my switch until 2021... so they wait wasn't that long. TOTK is amazing... yet almost too big. I'm 150 hrs in.... and I'm almost half done. I play for a few hours a day a couple times a week. I'm slow playing the game. I treat video games as an escape from work, I don't have a serious rush to beat the game. TOTK is an adventure for me, an adventure that doesn't require progress to enjoy. Its the PERFECT middle-age gamer game. You young-uns don't understand the grind of Zelda (86) or Zelda (91) ((Zelda 2 88 was a joke)) I enjoy a game that lets me escape yet let me do boring things. Video games aren't my life anymore, and TOTK is just boring middle-aged life. AND ITS WONDERFUL! I am the casual gamer.
Hell half the time I forget what I was doing a few days ago only to go on a 4 hour bender bashing enemies to get new fuse weapons...... I don't care about the end of the game, just the process and progress in getting there.
There is an unbreakable weapon in Tears of the Kingdom. It's the unarmed ability that you get from the Yiga Clan hideout. The Yiga blade Master skill, Earthwake.
i wished with the memories they would've had only one be available in the world at a time so you can get the story more linearly instead of being able to find like memory 12 before memory 3, you know.
People keep complaining about how there is no reason to explore, but you literally just listed a very valid reason to search the island, like wtf is going on? 7:50
Comparing Spiderman to Zelda is like comparing apples to oranges. The development time to create a game like Spiderman will always be significant less just because BOTW and TOTK are going for diegetic gameplay. Meaning for Zelda they are creating a physical world and environment the player can interact with anything however they want to even if the developers didn’t think about it that way compared to Spiderman. Spiderman is more of a classic open world game where everything you can interact with was designed by the developers. I only played Spiderman 2018 and not the other two games they have made but I did love it I am not trying to say that they aren't good games just that they are both very different games and the development time for them will be very different then any Zelda that is similar to BOTW and TOTK
@@Caleb_Bravo99it probably would’ve come out significantly faster if there wasn’t a global pandemic and if they didn’t have to optimize the shit out of the game due to the switch being vastly underpowered.
In my opinion, although it is a direct sequel and a copy/paste of so much of the mechanics and gameplay of BOTW, TOTK is its own thing. Much like how when Majora's Mask first came out after Ocarina of time, was it's own thing. There were many people who hated Majora after Ocarina, but both have aged perfectly and are considered masterpieces today.
I love this game so much more than BoTW it’s not even funny. I literally can’t describe how much I love this game I’ve played it for hundreds of hours it’s so good!!! Everything about it is perfect for me.
Anything other than “yes” is asinine. Edit: I saw the video now, and I do agree with the points you made. My biggest complaints about ToTK are the continuity with BoTW, and the dungeon design.
I don't think "yes" is that obvious, personally I got too much from TOTK despite its flaws to pretend it wasn't worth waiting. But I get that if it doesn't click for someone either as a sequel or for what it does differently, to them it has been a long wait for an unfulfilling game. While it's worth waiting for a game of that caliber though, it's also frustrating that so much of their effort seems to have been spread on such a large scope but turned out pretty shallow in parts, like the sparse skies, repetitive depths and underwhelming lore / world building.
I 100% agree with you If a game is a sequel especially in the same map they need to pump it out quickly. I’m not for rushing games like Ubisoft but if a direct sequel can’t be done quickly I’d rather want a brand new game. A direct sequel will almost never be good enough for a 6 year gap Totk is not a bad game but I think people are feeling disappointed because we waited soo long for just this and now we gotta wait another 6 years :/
I agree if it is like what we have. Now. I won't be Buying it. I want something more. Something better if they're gonna keep this type of game going, then give us a little more in it and do not make us wait Yours, that is ridiculous.
Are you referring to the extra year of polish? AAA games fully functional on release aren't the norm anymore, it's a good thing they took however long they needed. Another question I'd raise is whether they were focused exclusively on TOTK during that extra time, or if they already started to think about the next one. Since they confirmed there's no DLC, I hope so.
@@mkjjoe I admit I am writing with some ignorance but 50 yrs of gamers knowledge to right my ship some(: with that, I just know in my mostly unbiased (self-assumed though:) mind having paid heavy attention especially thus last 7 yrs specifically on this game and am fairly certain they had a good framework established and very likely could have put this game out 2020-21 even and I personally feel it may have even been better because when you got something good you should never ever sit on it thinking you may make it better still. I am certain botw made, is making bank galore! With an already laid in thick gold foundation it should not of taken that long. (I fear too much $ unexpectedly spoils a good thing especially letting it sit too long.)
Absolute robbery joke that this game took 6 years LMAO. They had the same world, same sounds, same menus, same locations, same this, same that. What took so long? Skyward sword to BotW took LESS time than totk’s wait
TotK is simply not good enough given the long wait. The dungeons still suck just as much as the divine beasts. The graphics haven’t improved at all. Both the depths and the sky are underwhelming at best. The story in TotK is just terrible. I can’t understand how this game is any better then a 7/10.
I liked it, BOTW and TOTK are my favs, great story complementing each other and also mechanics wise. I've been playing Zelda since the beginnings in the 80's, I know what it feels to start something new. I think they needed more DLC for TOTK and the Master mode, I just want to continue to fight the bosses and monsters on a higher difficult level. 10:35 To be fair when Covid happened, Nintendo did stated that Covid slowed down and made difficult for development. But again, the mechanics used in TOTK as expressed by Western Devs are no joke, they are extremely difficult to pull out. Ascend, Mixing weapons with any item, reverting time, are huge challenges in the video game industry that I bet its what took the most time to develop. Nintendo didn't just made a sequel, they made a sequel and created a stupid insane level of programing creating these mechanics for Link to create any vehicle you can imagine, move through any floor and roof, revert time. Western Devs were shocked that Nintendo created something insanely difficult just for a sequel. But now that they developed this mechanics and they have patented them, they are probably gonna use them again in the next Zelda installment or some variation from them and save them the time. (maybe) Making games are not easy and when making games this complex, you can't expect them to deliver them fast. Not to mention, since this became a sequel, the already built world of BOTW added constraints for them to develop. Its true they could have improved in a lot of things, flesh out more Ganondorf make more sense of urgency but I'm sure will take notes from this for their next Zelda game. (I hope)
@@mkjjoe the game was useless lore wise, they only cared about the gameplay. We had 4 years worth of video theories on BOTW & TOTK trailers now that the game been out for like 5 months there’s barely any new content that can be made on the game, therefore NOOOOOOPPPPPEEE Nintendo and Zelda developers did not deliver they done wet the bed on this one.
@@freemandoe9733 If gameplay is the focus, maybe you don't think that was good enough but you understand they didn't slack off. We can appreciate an ambitious project and still criticize what we didn't like. Yes it sucks that we didn't get deeper lore and world building but it's not like Nintendo _owes_ a community what they fantasized, they never worked like that.
It’s a really fun sandbox physics game but a really boring Zelda game. The characters, dungeons, and side quests have absolutely no depth. It’s so shocking they spent so long on this game adding so many different layers for it to be so surface-level. Bring back linearity
Totk is a better botw, and that’s fax. The only useful ability we had before was stasis, every single ability in totk is goated and all of them are incredibly useful. Horses were useless in botw. Now I can easily just make a hoverbike, a boat, a sand glider. Just about anything you can think if can easily be built in seconds. Ganon is so much better in this game. The boss fights and the whole story surrounding this ganon were heavily improved. Calamity ganon was okay I guess, I didn’t like how before we fought 4 different ganon variants. It was kind of repetitive. Totk actually had temples again, they were short and easy but at least we had temples at all. And we didn’t have to fight 29 ganon variants again, that gets old quick. We had different unique bosses, actual proper zelda bosses. Not water ganon, fire ganon, thunder ganon, wind ganon, big boi calamity ganon, pig ganon. And the fact that botw ganon(s) was this voiceless monster and had zero dialogue with Link kind of irked me. Another thing Totk improved, ganon is way cooler and more fun to play against here. There’s way more content as well. The depths are massive and filled with tons of lore and loot and we have the sky islands as well. It feels very similar to botw, just more fun. Way more to do, better abilities. But the gameplay for the most part has remained the same. I also liked Totk’s story more but that’s kind of subjective. In defense of BOTW however, the soundtrack was definitely better.
Playing devil's advocate, here's why these *don't* make TOTK just better: Abilities _are_ amazing, so I'll leave that. Horses were kinda annoying but sometimes useful in BOTW, now they're useless outside of a few quests and pony points are too superficial, they did nothing interesting with the wildlife which IMO was a strong aspect of immersion. Ganondorf is cool, probably best design and boss fight, but as a character he was under-utilized and basically a repeat of OOT. In BOTW I was underwhelmed to end with Calamity at first, but in retrospect it fits the story and theme perfectly. I don't really prefer having him human to talk about nothing and not show a character arc. The fact that they named temples "temples" doesn't mean they're a perfect form, the approach, theme, music are great, bosses 50/50, Divine Beasts were more involved by shifting parts yourself, now we just blow/splash/bomb/zap a few terminals after possibly cheesing most of the obstacles. Sages are terrible mechanically and forgettable narratively, Champions had room for improvement in BOTW and yet felt better. Sky islands are sparse _and_ repetitive, more like platforms to renew the exploration loop rather than interesting lands to explore like the marketing and starting area may suggest. The Depths have an amazing concept but the single biome and repeated points of interest make it quickly monotone. I don't know what you consider to be "tons of lore" in these new layers but besides vaguely implying that the Zonai "did it all", or repurposed BOTW DLC armor pieces with zero context to make sense, we learn nothing. In BOTW at least, environmental lore came from a variety of biomes with people living there and talking about history or rumors, and a map sprinkled with references to past games.
u r right, hope zelda will be back to its roots next game. not a fan of that open world, that storytelling and the breaking weapons. prefer good old riddles over that bullshit craft ur vehicle mechanic
The game lived up to most expectations. There are a few shortcomings (not including no DLC), but it's really good. And a steering stick, I had like 10 before, 20 hours hit. You just had bad luck.
TotK greatly improves on the two main ideas of BotW: The physics engine, and seamlessness. Considering they pulled both of these off so well, on a SWITCH, with the pandemic undoubtedly getting in the way, I'm baffled we got a finished product at all. Whenever I dive from a sky island all the way to the Depths, or create a crazy bokoblin-killer-mech, I realize something. The devs behind this game are literal WIZARDS.
Don’t think it’s ever worth waiting that long for the game we got. The more I think about it, the more I realize they could have gone a much different direction, better game and for less time waited
Facts. First ever genuinely poor Zelda game.
For a 6 year wait, how could they have not at least given us a new map. They BUILT BotW from the ground up in less time than we waited for Tears of the Kingdom.
Honestly, I feel like a lot of the time is spent refining the ultra hand
as much as i wanted to love and adore this game… i just didn’t :( and it makes me sad … i haven’t played it in weeks
I think people dont understand the subtext of the BOTW story. If you got it, you know the BOTW story is vastly supeior to TOTK.
THIS.
Facts!
plus, the theme for BoTW is insane, i havent gotten many goosebumps with ToTK's theme
And aside from the characters I already liked from BotW: (Sidon and Riju) the sages were no replacement for the champions in terms of emotional connections. Watching four characters come to grips with their deaths, and the different reasons they're champing at the bit to perform one final act from beyond the grave, is way more compelling than "Yes! Teamwork Guys!!!" in every cutscene.
I think the climax is the only thing Tears did better. That final catch felt like closure for both stories and might be the peak of the whole series.
That said, my Breath of the Wild preference is very small margin.
If you need subtext to understand a story, it is not a good story. In my opinion.
It was not worth the wait
It is better than BotW
But felt so similar in many ways to BotW that I feel it did not warrant the wait
I’m looking forward to the next Zelda game feeling a lot I’m more “fresh”
In my opinion BOTW had a more interesting story than TOTK. I prefer the story of robot genocide over time travel hijinks
I think that TOTK is simply not game for everyone, if u cannot enjoy the ultrahand function, you miss like 50% of fun this game can offer. For me, it was worth the way, because now I can be even more creative with the ways of killing enemies or just gettin around the map, there is simply no other game with these physics.
The most creative thing I've done in the game is use a stick to grab a chest at the bottom of a river.
Story was crap for me
Found myself using the hoverbike 90% of the time. Even used it to cheese the water & fire temple. Ultrahand while a cool concept in my opinion never had that one defining moment for me throughout the almost 150hrs I put in the game. Lastly, while it's cool to use zonai devices to take on enemy bases is fun in the very beginning but as you progress it becomes much faster to just shoot fused arrows & your powerful weapons than to sit there & mess with a janky system.
But thats my issue with ultrahand; it takes up so much bandwidth of the game, but it ultimately has no real relevance in the grand scheme of the game's narrative. Did you need to use ultrahand or any zonai device to defeat Ganon? Nope, you just used the Master Sword. Ultrahand and the Zonai devices were interesting little gameplay gimmicks, but they just felt tacked on top of the greater narrative of the game. The game has alot of ideas & "stuff" thrown in it, but it lacks cohesion, finesse, and thematic consistency. Ultrahand felt janky alot of times to me and just didnt mesh well with the experience.
Im glad you had fun, but i personally need more out of a game than physics and a wide map. to me, TOTK needed alot of things: a better user-interface; a map with more density & richer interesting content than just shrines and annoying NPCs; a much better reward-system; a combat-system that wasnt broken to high hell; puzzles & temples that werent mind-numbingly tedious; and a story that would actually make me feel something.
Half life and gmod literally have perfect physics just like this game
The only problem is that tears the kingdom is not getting a DLC and that absolutely tanked the player count everyone so loves the game but since we know there's no new content a lot of people just not been playing and even I got burnt out I'm currently playing breath of the wild for weapon modifier corruption and going on a black crusade
when a game is perfect and finshed you dont need a dlc . dlc is only mostime bullshit and bugfixes or stuff that wasrady at lunch . even with dlc gen z is burned out after 2 weaks normaly .
@@sayukoeiren1077 I put 300-500 hours in totk and that is why I got burnt out
thats cus totk was the dlc for botw that became its own game, they put all thier extra ideas in totk. also theyre probaly tired of working on the same wolrd for over a decade now
Because TOTK was already BOTW's 2nd DLC pack at an insane $70.
@@sayukoeiren1077 you think totk is perfect? ho... ho boy... boys, what do we tell em
12:14 so true about the master sword bro. How is it that it is bathed in Zelda’s light power for thousands of years and is worse than the one in Botw and only 40 durability? If you don’t wanna make it too op attack wise, keep it at 30 attack (45 against gloom) but it never breaks. Have the fused items break but the master sword absolutely should not
Honestly no i don’t think it was worth the wait. My expectations was that they would keep what worked in botw and fix all the issues. For example the puzzles. The dungeons has better music and visuals sure, but the puzzles are so surface level it hurts. Same with the shrines. There are only half a handfull of them thats even memerable. The puzzles of these newer zelda games are nothing compared to the other games. Another issue with the puzzles is that there are absolutely 0 restrictions of what you can do to solve them. For example you can just summon a hover bike any time you want to go where ever you want. Or in a shrine or temple, there is always an obvious, easy, cost effective and unsatisfying way to ”solve” every puzzle instead of doing it an interesting way, for example shooting one bomb at a switch for every switch you see. Thats my main complaint and at this point i wish nintendo would just go back to the linear zelda style
Yes, fantastic game !!!
I agree with you. Taking away big dungeons & dungeon items was a questionable decision. Also taking away musical items seems odd.
I wish our exploration that we did in breath of the wild be transferred to tears of the kingdom
The switch up on TotK is insane😭😭
What I want to know is how long is the main quest is 30 to 60 then the rest is do whatever or is it a really short quest that’s like 10 hrs or less to beat then rest is just your mess around.
While totk may not be a dlc, it was confirmed by Nintendo to have it origins as a dlc to botw and it is quite evident in the final product given the extra toppings added to the same map.
I really liked totk, but for some reason botw just comes on top for me. I was in middle school when it can out and totk came out when I was senior. Something about botw , the hype, was just something else. I was excited for totk, but after I beat it I didn’t play it again. Which I don’t know why but it just didn’t have that click for me
So I didn't get my switch until 2021... so they wait wasn't that long. TOTK is amazing... yet almost too big. I'm 150 hrs in.... and I'm almost half done. I play for a few hours a day a couple times a week. I'm slow playing the game. I treat video games as an escape from work, I don't have a serious rush to beat the game. TOTK is an adventure for me, an adventure that doesn't require progress to enjoy. Its the PERFECT middle-age gamer game. You young-uns don't understand the grind of Zelda (86) or Zelda (91) ((Zelda 2 88 was a joke)) I enjoy a game that lets me escape yet let me do boring things. Video games aren't my life anymore, and TOTK is just boring middle-aged life. AND ITS WONDERFUL! I am the casual gamer.
Hell half the time I forget what I was doing a few days ago only to go on a 4 hour bender bashing enemies to get new fuse weapons...... I don't care about the end of the game, just the process and progress in getting there.
There is an unbreakable weapon in Tears of the Kingdom.
It's the unarmed ability that you get from the Yiga Clan hideout.
The Yiga blade Master skill, Earthwake.
Earthwake is so cool omg
@@minkusaurus Thank you for correcting the name.
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it is just earth power from Pokémon can we agree@@DamionVander
Sure
i wished with the memories they would've had only one be available in the world at a time so you can get the story more linearly instead of being able to find like memory 12 before memory 3, you know.
I expected more from the sky islands; and the depths were a nice addition but seems like so much wasted potential.
between link to the past and orcarina of time was more time to wait arounf 7-10 years (for us in eu i dont now us and jp times)
and to buy windfish was waiting to even preordert was nearly 6-7 months waiting becouse chip shortig in jp at the 90
In Europe ALTTP was September 1992, LA was December 1993, OOT was December 1998
People keep complaining about how there is no reason to explore, but you literally just listed a very valid reason to search the island, like wtf is going on? 7:50
Comparing Spiderman to Zelda is like comparing apples to oranges. The development time to create a game like Spiderman will always be significant less just because BOTW and TOTK are going for diegetic gameplay. Meaning for Zelda they are creating a physical world and environment the player can interact with anything however they want to even if the developers didn’t think about it that way compared to Spiderman. Spiderman is more of a classic open world game where everything you can interact with was designed by the developers.
I only played Spiderman 2018 and not the other two games they have made but I did love it I am not trying to say that they aren't good games just that they are both very different games and the development time for them will be very different then any Zelda that is similar to BOTW and TOTK
No hate I’m just a game development student and I saw a flaw in your logic
@@thebaccatv4008 My point is that a sequel that reuses much of the same stuff should come out faster than something completely new.
@@Caleb_Bravo99it probably would’ve come out significantly faster if there wasn’t a global pandemic and if they didn’t have to optimize the shit out of the game due to the switch being vastly underpowered.
I didnt see anything or do anything till the month of release and it was worth it. I like it wayyy more than botw.
In my opinion, although it is a direct sequel and a copy/paste of so much of the mechanics and gameplay of BOTW, TOTK is its own thing. Much like how when Majora's Mask first came out after Ocarina of time, was it's own thing. There were many people who hated Majora after Ocarina, but both have aged perfectly and are considered masterpieces today.
Same game?!?!?!?!?
I love this game so much more than BoTW it’s not even funny. I literally can’t describe how much I love this game I’ve played it for hundreds of hours it’s so good!!! Everything about it is perfect for me.
Anything other than “yes” is asinine.
Edit: I saw the video now, and I do agree with the points you made. My biggest complaints about ToTK are the continuity with BoTW, and the dungeon design.
I don't think "yes" is that obvious, personally I got too much from TOTK despite its flaws to pretend it wasn't worth waiting. But I get that if it doesn't click for someone either as a sequel or for what it does differently, to them it has been a long wait for an unfulfilling game. While it's worth waiting for a game of that caliber though, it's also frustrating that so much of their effort seems to have been spread on such a large scope but turned out pretty shallow in parts, like the sparse skies, repetitive depths and underwhelming lore / world building.
@@mkjjoe we do share the same opinion. The sky islands were a little disappointing for me as well.
I 100% agree with you
If a game is a sequel especially in the same map they need to pump it out quickly.
I’m not for rushing games like Ubisoft but if a direct sequel can’t be done quickly I’d rather want a brand new game.
A direct sequel will almost never be good enough for a 6 year gap
Totk is not a bad game but I think people are feeling disappointed because we waited soo long for just this and now we gotta wait another 6 years :/
Next game is brand new thou
I agree if it is like what we have. Now. I won't be Buying it. I want something more. Something better if they're gonna keep this type of game going, then give us a little more in it and do not make us wait Yours, that is ridiculous.
I loved botw and enjoyed totk but will be my last zelda if they don't do a traditional zelda. Open world game fatigue i guess
Done year prior so at least serve the dish fresh out of the dev oven! It's old, stale colder then it woulda been fresh served.
Are you referring to the extra year of polish? AAA games fully functional on release aren't the norm anymore, it's a good thing they took however long they needed. Another question I'd raise is whether they were focused exclusively on TOTK during that extra time, or if they already started to think about the next one. Since they confirmed there's no DLC, I hope so.
@@mkjjoe I admit I am writing with some ignorance but 50 yrs of gamers knowledge to right my ship some(: with that, I just know in my mostly unbiased (self-assumed though:) mind having paid heavy attention especially thus last 7 yrs specifically on this game and am fairly certain they had a good framework established and very likely could have put this game out 2020-21 even and I personally feel it may have even been better because when you got something good you should never ever sit on it thinking you may make it better still. I am certain botw made, is making bank galore! With an already laid in thick gold foundation it should not of taken that long. (I fear too much $ unexpectedly spoils a good thing especially letting it sit too long.)
Absolute robbery joke that this game took 6 years LMAO.
They had the same world, same sounds, same menus, same locations, same this, same that. What took so long?
Skyward sword to BotW took LESS time than totk’s wait
TotK is simply not good enough given the long wait. The dungeons still suck just as much as the divine beasts. The graphics haven’t improved at all. Both the depths and the sky are underwhelming at best. The story in TotK is just terrible. I can’t understand how this game is any better then a 7/10.
I liked it, BOTW and TOTK are my favs, great story complementing each other and also mechanics wise. I've been playing Zelda since the beginnings in the 80's, I know what it feels to start something new.
I think they needed more DLC for TOTK and the Master mode, I just want to continue to fight the bosses and monsters on a higher difficult level.
10:35 To be fair when Covid happened, Nintendo did stated that Covid slowed down and made difficult for development. But again, the mechanics used in TOTK as expressed by Western Devs are no joke, they are extremely difficult to pull out. Ascend, Mixing weapons with any item, reverting time, are huge challenges in the video game industry that I bet its what took the most time to develop.
Nintendo didn't just made a sequel, they made a sequel and created a stupid insane level of programing creating these mechanics for Link to create any vehicle you can imagine, move through any floor and roof, revert time. Western Devs were shocked that Nintendo created something insanely difficult just for a sequel. But now that they developed this mechanics and they have patented them, they are probably gonna use them again in the next Zelda installment or some variation from them and save them the time. (maybe)
Making games are not easy and when making games this complex, you can't expect them to deliver them fast. Not to mention, since this became a sequel, the already built world of BOTW added constraints for them to develop. Its true they could have improved in a lot of things, flesh out more Ganondorf make more sense of urgency but I'm sure will take notes from this for their next Zelda game. (I hope)
NO, did not watch more than 3 seconds of your video before giving this answer*
What's the point of answering if you're not interested in the conversation?
@@mkjjoe I give my 2cents that was the point
@@freemandoe9733 We can differentiate between "I had fun but also issues" vs "it was no fun at all"
@@mkjjoe the game was useless lore wise, they only cared about the gameplay. We had 4 years worth of video theories on BOTW & TOTK trailers now that the game been out for like 5 months there’s barely any new content that can be made on the game, therefore NOOOOOOPPPPPEEE Nintendo and Zelda developers did not deliver they done wet the bed on this one.
@@freemandoe9733 If gameplay is the focus, maybe you don't think that was good enough but you understand they didn't slack off. We can appreciate an ambitious project and still criticize what we didn't like. Yes it sucks that we didn't get deeper lore and world building but it's not like Nintendo _owes_ a community what they fantasized, they never worked like that.
long answer probably not
short answer no
botw better
It’s a really fun sandbox physics game but a really boring Zelda game. The characters, dungeons, and side quests have absolutely no depth. It’s so shocking they spent so long on this game adding so many different layers for it to be so surface-level. Bring back linearity
No. It was mid and bad. (I’m a “switch 2 mf’er”)
I kid I kid. The game was good
$70 DLC. Never have I been so frustrated at a game so much. Skyward Sword is no longer my least favorite Zelda
Totk is a better botw, and that’s fax. The only useful ability we had before was stasis, every single ability in totk is goated and all of them are incredibly useful. Horses were useless in botw. Now I can easily just make a hoverbike, a boat, a sand glider. Just about anything you can think if can easily be built in seconds. Ganon is so much better in this game. The boss fights and the whole story surrounding this ganon were heavily improved. Calamity ganon was okay I guess, I didn’t like how before we fought 4 different ganon variants. It was kind of repetitive. Totk actually had temples again, they were short and easy but at least we had temples at all. And we didn’t have to fight 29 ganon variants again, that gets old quick. We had different unique bosses, actual proper zelda bosses. Not water ganon, fire ganon, thunder ganon, wind ganon, big boi calamity ganon, pig ganon. And the fact that botw ganon(s) was this voiceless monster and had zero dialogue with Link kind of irked me. Another thing Totk improved, ganon is way cooler and more fun to play against here. There’s way more content as well. The depths are massive and filled with tons of lore and loot and we have the sky islands as well. It feels very similar to botw, just more fun. Way more to do, better abilities. But the gameplay for the most part has remained the same. I also liked Totk’s story more but that’s kind of subjective. In defense of BOTW however, the soundtrack was definitely better.
Playing devil's advocate, here's why these *don't* make TOTK just better: Abilities _are_ amazing, so I'll leave that. Horses were kinda annoying but sometimes useful in BOTW, now they're useless outside of a few quests and pony points are too superficial, they did nothing interesting with the wildlife which IMO was a strong aspect of immersion. Ganondorf is cool, probably best design and boss fight, but as a character he was under-utilized and basically a repeat of OOT. In BOTW I was underwhelmed to end with Calamity at first, but in retrospect it fits the story and theme perfectly. I don't really prefer having him human to talk about nothing and not show a character arc. The fact that they named temples "temples" doesn't mean they're a perfect form, the approach, theme, music are great, bosses 50/50, Divine Beasts were more involved by shifting parts yourself, now we just blow/splash/bomb/zap a few terminals after possibly cheesing most of the obstacles. Sages are terrible mechanically and forgettable narratively, Champions had room for improvement in BOTW and yet felt better. Sky islands are sparse _and_ repetitive, more like platforms to renew the exploration loop rather than interesting lands to explore like the marketing and starting area may suggest. The Depths have an amazing concept but the single biome and repeated points of interest make it quickly monotone. I don't know what you consider to be "tons of lore" in these new layers but besides vaguely implying that the Zonai "did it all", or repurposed BOTW DLC armor pieces with zero context to make sense, we learn nothing. In BOTW at least, environmental lore came from a variety of biomes with people living there and talking about history or rumors, and a map sprinkled with references to past games.
u r right, hope zelda will be back to its roots next game. not a fan of that open world, that storytelling and the breaking weapons. prefer good old riddles over that bullshit craft ur vehicle mechanic
They are not going back to the traditional format because the current one sells totk sold 20 mil in just 5 months
What riddles? Getting a bow and shooting at eyeballs again?
ZELDA 1 is pretty open world to me, idk
@@Justnothankyou132 apart from tht since botw was inspired from zelda 1
NO, The Story Was DOG🐩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩
The game lived up to most expectations. There are a few shortcomings (not including no DLC), but it's really good. And a steering stick, I had like 10 before, 20 hours hit. You just had bad luck.