In reference to that podcast what the hell does a reference King Kong have to do with a Mark Twain quote about dreaming?? He says “the last time he posted anything like this” but what does ‘anything like this’ even mean? They are seemingly totally unrelated things
My far my biggest gripe is that he should make preparations and allow the books to be finished by someone else in line with his vision after his death, and the only reason he refuses to is out of narcissistic spite. But no, he is going to burn it down in a middle finger to everybody.
He should just let AI finish it at this point. Literally every year since however long it's been after the last book ASOIAF came out fan channels are like "Here it is, WOW is finally coming!!" Meanwhile GRRM has found time to do anything else but finish his main series... Fire & Blood, working on HOTD and a bunch of spinoffs, God knows what else. I would have taken ONE REALLY GOOD GAME OF THRONES SERIES from start to finish, based on actual finished book material, over every consolation spinoff show and consolation book combined. TBH I wish he had just finished Winds and Dream instead of writing Fire & Blood. He's never gonna finish this series, people. Look at the mans' physical condition-- does that look like a healthy man to you, one that's gonna live that much longer? Listen to all the vague excuse-making in his interviews-- does that sound like a guy that has any intention at all of finishing ASOIAF to you? NO. Neither thing. So we can enjoy our fan theories all we want, but we're never getting the books. At least I held off on investing all the time in reading the series to date. I saved myself the aggravation of not getting a proper ending twice instead of just suffering the destruction of the show.
My far my biggest gripe is that he should make preparations and allow the book to be finished by someone else in line with his vision after his death, and the only reason he refuses to is out of narcissistic spite. But no, he is going to burn it down in a middle finger to everybody.
I stopped caring after the final season of GOT ended. Then, following the 2022 update, i started caring again, lol! I hope we finally get the damn book! The hype is real
I started reading the books in the middle of covid. After the first 2, I told my brother that I FEEL a TWoW announcement coming. I'll continue after it's announced. I decided to reread and then continue a few months ago. I've just started Feast.
Dude it's the blue rose that does it for me. Words Of Wisdom and a blue rose? and then quoting William Faulkner who he always quotes about "the human heart in conflict with itself" and everything. I think George posted that when he wrote the chapter in which he reveal's Jon's parentage, which he says is one of the biggest mysteries in the series and is supposed to be revealed in BOOK SIX (he has said so himself many times), and the winter rose is of course what connects Dany's vision in the House of the undying and Jon Snow, and Lyanna Stark; so my guess is that he just finished that chapter or Jon's arc in TWOW (if he survives of course which isn't a given).
Jon will survive or be resurrected in some form I think that is pretty certain. But I think it will come with bigger consequences than what we saw in the TV series. There we basically had the same Jon come back from the dead.
Its hideous that in that 13 years I started and finished elementary school, finished high school, and started uni and WOW hasn't come out yet. In that pace I will probably become a profesor before it happens.
I've been seeing so many of these videos, all within the last month or so, I haven't watched them all so I don't know if it's just a load of rave about the same thing, but I'm cautiously excited.
Please never use talking thrones as a source for anything, the guys whole channel is click bait and just straight up making stuff up and presenting it as truth
@Grewyn7 are pretty awful? Well, that's your opinion, bro. The chapters with Cercei in Feast were fun. I also enjoyed the chapters with Brianne. Dance also had great moments
George confirmed two days ago the book is not coming. I've read the books, they are cool, but I can't recommend them if there's no resolution. Also, the fact that "A Dance..." doesn't really have any sort of "ending" and finishes with more than one cliffhanger doesn't really help.
my honest opinion is that D andD f'd his story so bad that if he publishes his own version there will be severe backlash upon getting it published. maybe he is tired of tending the garden he calls ASOIF
I also believe this, and, I kinda understand the man. I only wish that, if this is the case, he could just stop lying about his progress and admit "look, to be honest, I'm not working on ASoIaF", so everyone can just move on. He seems to already have moved on.
Never read those books or watched the show, but the delusional fans of ASOIAF are all the entertainment I need. 😂 There are so many other authors to focus your time on honestly.
The 911 reference is awesome.. but I think george is stuck and has been stuck for a while.. he has so much to keep track of and we know that he is someone who will rewrite quite a lot an if he changes something within a story that's so interlocking it has a cascading effect
I think its as simple as that for years he didn't write those stories. The writing stopped basically as the show came out, the pressure likely got to him.. but lets hope the books are coming. I get the feeling that this is the hardest one to write, the last book should be just a conclusion of all that set up.
Could be winds of winter but could also be a celebration of the elden ring show or movie coming out that was leaked by hackers of fromsoft I don't know which one I'm more excited for.
9 years ago season 5 had finished If he wrote half a page a day every day (80-90 words) TWOW would be longer than ADWD and out now Considering he already had chunks already written that he cut from dance this is an insanely slow writing pace
But he doesn't sit down and write, we all know that, 10 to 20% of thje book is ADWD , that by the way if you didnt know originally the fourth book was going to be called ADWD but it was to big that it was split in two and even then there is still parts of it in Winds, but going back to my original point, he is a gardener he writes he reads again feels its not good throws it out and tries again. And he can do that endlessly until he is satisfied, he has no structure he has ideas i plants and sees where it takes him and if he doesnt like it he takes them out and plants again.
My far my biggest gripe is that he should make preparations and allow the book to be finished by someone else in line with his vision after his death, and the only reason he refuses to is out of narcissistic spite. But no, he is going to burn it down in a middle finger to everybody.
I think a more fair estimate is 2/3 of the book by 2022 when he suddenly opened up more about his progress on the book. This coincided with one of his visits to his publisher so he was probably forced to actually take a look at the progress.
it will be in your bookshop before march 2029, and if it doesn't happen come back and add another 5 years to that and rinse and repeat until it comes out or he dies.
The problem is that he has a whole other book to write. He'll never finish this series unless he drops them both at the same time. If he drops Winds he'll announce that it has to be an 8 book series now.
My far my biggest gripe is that he should make preparations and allow the book to be finished by someone else in line with his vision after his death, and the only reason he refuses to is out of narcissistic spite. But no, he is going to burn it down in a middle finger to everybody.
he has been done with 3/4 for 10 years now. i remember reading excerpts from his book 10 yeasr ago, telling me that it is finished soon. are you kidding me??
“We are getting closer…” No you aren’t. This man is not releasing this book until he passes. Why? He doesn’t want internet children getting mad at him for his decisions. If the books come anywhere close to the show you kids will be mad. If he writes anything other than what you kids have thought out in your heads, you kids will be mad. It’s lose/lose for him. He will sit back and collect his HBO checks and release this book when he is gone. Then he doesn’t have to worry about “fans.”
My far my biggest gripe is that he should make preparations and allow the books to be finished by someone else in line with his vision after his death, and the only reason he refuses to is out of narcissistic spite. But no, he is going to burn it down in a middle finger to everybody.
I'm so glad I never bothered to read the books. It's bad enough to invest so much in the show for it to all be nothing but a waste. I'd be even more pissed if I started on a book series that's never getting finished. I mean, come on. He's been sallying around putting out nothing but side projects like WOIAF and Fire & Blood instead of finishing his main series for YEARS. I'd rather have had one amazing 10-season Game of Thrones based on a finished book series, that I could actually enjoy re-watching, than all the consolation spinoff shows in the world-- like I seriously don't care about HOTD at all except for the fact it's all we're getting to redeem the failure of the original show. Unless he hires a ghost writer or makes provisions in his estate for someone to finish the books for him (and he won't), don't get your hopes up. He should seriously just let AI finish off the series. Martin lost his motivation a long time ago and now he's old and unhealthy AF.
consider if it truly never gets finished to still read it, the uncertainty makes it so bad. several plots and entire characters in the books are missing from the show and to me are so damn interesting.
@@Blackdeathgaming-yv1kk I feel the same way, but knowing those characters are not going to have any resolution makes me now want to touch the books ever again. And the fact that "A Dance" doesn't even have an "ending", and finished with cliffhangers doesn't help, either.
It wasn’t George’s fault GoT s8 was bad though right? The books weren’t even completed up until that point and the screenwriters decided on the ending. They could have probably delayed it a bit but HOTD is a good show atleast.
A world and story as big as ASOIAF never really has a definite end so it's still worth reading .. Unless GRRM actually makes one of those apocalypse endings but I think that's unlikely for ASOIAF. Maybe King's Landing will turn to ashes and crumble, but the people in Westeros will survive in some way or fashion so there are always more stories to tell.
Our is the Cope
Hear me hope
Waiting is coming
Unlikely, Unread, Unpublished
As High as Hope
Here we Stand (waiting)
The hawk tuah girl was like the red comet...winds is coming!
is she gonna hawk tuah on George little wee wee and then he will coom with the Winds on his hand?
😂😂😂
@@faisal5367she will try finding it between Georges flaps. Then the actual treasure will be Winds of Winter which is laying beneath his balls.
That's beautiful
I did my waiting... 13 years of it... In Azkaban!
I want him to just walk out on stage with a completed copy of the book, just slam it down on a table, and say "Done. Happy now?" XD
DUDE SEND THAT TO HIM ASAP AND GIVE HIM MOTIVATION
He's going to announce it at worldcon which was a month ago.
He just posted yesterday saying “no, it’s not done. The internet got too excited over nothing.”
He lies!
In reference to that podcast what the hell does a reference King Kong have to do with a Mark Twain quote about dreaming?? He says “the last time he posted anything like this” but what does ‘anything like this’ even mean? They are seemingly totally unrelated things
He didn’t outright say it’s not done though did he?
My far my biggest gripe is that he should make preparations and allow the books to be finished by someone else in line with his vision after his death, and the only reason he refuses to is out of narcissistic spite. But no, he is going to burn it down in a middle finger to everybody.
@@cketcham1217 The Lie Father!
Winds resides where Martin believes it resides
If every fan who met Martin for the rest of his life made a remark like "I'm sure glad I saw how it ended on TV" he might get motivated.
It’s gonna be released in December 31st 2024. I saw it in a dream.
Good enough for me.
I trust You
Your house will burn down and the eggs in your fridge will turn into dragons I saw it in a vision
@gora. 9241's dream? Is that another prophecy?
@@RelaxingMusic-su8obthatd be pretty cool actually. Dragons irl
Lol shadow dropping Winds would be legendary. Thousands of stories of folks looking twice, bewildered.
Winds of winter before gta 6
Weve been waiting for this book longer than gta 6
honestly that might happen, but it might not lmao who knows???
If it does not release in 4 months I will trespass your property.
Cant wait for george to come out and say "i am the winds of winter" 🥶
We all need to make our peace with the fact that George WILL NEVER FINISH The Winds Of Winter.
He should just let AI finish it at this point. Literally every year since however long it's been after the last book ASOIAF came out fan channels are like "Here it is, WOW is finally coming!!" Meanwhile GRRM has found time to do anything else but finish his main series... Fire & Blood, working on HOTD and a bunch of spinoffs, God knows what else. I would have taken ONE REALLY GOOD GAME OF THRONES SERIES from start to finish, based on actual finished book material, over every consolation spinoff show and consolation book combined. TBH I wish he had just finished Winds and Dream instead of writing Fire & Blood. He's never gonna finish this series, people. Look at the mans' physical condition-- does that look like a healthy man to you, one that's gonna live that much longer? Listen to all the vague excuse-making in his interviews-- does that sound like a guy that has any intention at all of finishing ASOIAF to you? NO. Neither thing. So we can enjoy our fan theories all we want, but we're never getting the books. At least I held off on investing all the time in reading the series to date. I saved myself the aggravation of not getting a proper ending twice instead of just suffering the destruction of the show.
@@worldadventuretravel AI? Why? There are competent human writers and IA is not that good yet.
hope my friend, above all hope!
My far my biggest gripe is that he should make preparations and allow the book to be finished by someone else in line with his vision after his death, and the only reason he refuses to is out of narcissistic spite. But no, he is going to burn it down in a middle finger to everybody.
I stopped caring after the final season of GOT ended. Then, following the 2022 update, i started caring again, lol! I hope we finally get the damn book! The hype is real
If HotD is any indication people aren't tired of Westeros at all (just of the late GoT seasons)
I started reading the books in the middle of covid. After the first 2, I told my brother that I FEEL a TWoW announcement coming. I'll continue after it's announced. I decided to reread and then continue a few months ago. I've just started Feast.
Dude it's the blue rose that does it for me. Words Of Wisdom and a blue rose? and then quoting William Faulkner who he always quotes about "the human heart in conflict with itself" and everything. I think George posted that when he wrote the chapter in which he reveal's Jon's parentage, which he says is one of the biggest mysteries in the series and is supposed to be revealed in BOOK SIX (he has said so himself many times), and the winter rose is of course what connects Dany's vision in the House of the undying and Jon Snow, and Lyanna Stark; so my guess is that he just finished that chapter or Jon's arc in TWOW (if he survives of course which isn't a given).
So much copium. He announced 2 days ago that the book's not coming.
Jon will survive or be resurrected in some form I think that is pretty certain. But I think it will come with bigger consequences than what we saw in the TV series. There we basically had the same Jon come back from the dead.
Announcement is out, he finished the first 4 pages.
Either he is trolling or it is really coming. And i cant believe he would troll us on such a big thing. Surely he wouldn´t...
Do we DARE hope this could finally be it?
“Remember, Red, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies.”
It’s gonna be announced alongside Half Life 3
😂😂😂😂😂good one
Fine I’ll start rereading the damn books again
Hopium is a dangerous drug.
Its hideous that in that 13 years I started and finished elementary school, finished high school, and started uni and WOW hasn't come out yet. In that pace I will probably become a profesor before it happens.
…Only if you take a remedial English course first. 😂
I've been seeing so many of these videos, all within the last month or so, I haven't watched them all so I don't know if it's just a load of rave about the same thing, but I'm cautiously excited.
12 years for a new GTA, 13 years for a half life prequel sequel, 13 years for The Winds Of Winter.
Still happy to get excited about ASOIAF! 😂🎉 🤪
8:10 [sighs] So... Who's ordering the cage?
The announcement will be its been delayed again for an unforseeable future.
Instead of fire and blood, it's wait and hope
We’re already in the unforeseeable future 😭
Please never use talking thrones as a source for anything, the guys whole channel is click bait and just straight up making stuff up and presenting it as truth
I think at best 2026.
Hmm, time to get back to reading Feast and Dance together (A Feast of Dragons arrangement) and Winds STILL won't be out!
Prepairing cage and a couple barrels of acid
It's coming out in the winter of 2024. I feel it.
Nice vid bro keep growing the channel
It would be amazing to finally be able to progress in this story.
Might be a stupid question, but has there been talk that the white walkers come back?
Ive been waiting so long😢
Watch it be Fire and Blood 2.
_Twice_ going against his word that WoW would be the next book would (justifiably) cause audible fan outcry and loss of goodwill
@@MegaMacReal I doubt GRRM can finish big books at his age. The cognitive decline must already be underway.
@@MegaMacReal The outcry is already huge. I don't think he cares.
The frustration…. I’ve waited years for this. Now, we must wait even more years?! Man, I don’t wanna go to my grave waiting for this story…
There's one more book after Winds. Sorry.
You need to start accepting the reality: the books are not going to be finished. We need to move on.
Should I start re reading the books now? Or would I have time between the announcement and the publishing date?
Start reading bro
It's not worth it
Not only is winds never coming, the last 2 books of the current series as it stands are pretty awful.
@Grewyn7 are pretty awful? Well, that's your opinion, bro. The chapters with Cercei in Feast were fun. I also enjoyed the chapters with Brianne. Dance also had great moments
George confirmed two days ago the book is not coming. I've read the books, they are cool, but I can't recommend them if there's no resolution. Also, the fact that "A Dance..." doesn't really have any sort of "ending" and finishes with more than one cliffhanger doesn't really help.
@@San_Vitohe confirmed winds isn’t coming? where
Y'all jinx it every time you make these vids.....
my honest opinion is that D andD f'd his story so bad that if he publishes his own version there will be severe backlash upon getting it published. maybe he is tired of tending the garden he calls ASOIF
I also believe this, and, I kinda understand the man. I only wish that, if this is the case, he could just stop lying about his progress and admit "look, to be honest, I'm not working on ASoIaF", so everyone can just move on. He seems to already have moved on.
The announcement: I haven't worked on it
Never read those books or watched the show, but the delusional fans of ASOIAF are all the entertainment I need. 😂
There are so many other authors to focus your time on honestly.
it will come out before 2029
3 months…still nothing 🤷♀️
Your were saying?
Watching old winds predictions videos is hilarious and also just sad.
The 911 reference is awesome.. but I think george is stuck and has been stuck for a while.. he has so much to keep track of and we know that he is someone who will rewrite quite a lot an if he changes something within a story that's so interlocking it has a cascading effect
He just claimed fascism is keeping him from writing, we are never getting an ending
I wish but I doubt it. I’ve been waiting the full 13 years.
Words are wind
I think its as simple as that for years he didn't write those stories. The writing stopped basically as the show came out, the pressure likely got to him.. but lets hope the books are coming. I get the feeling that this is the hardest one to write, the last book should be just a conclusion of all that set up.
The intro about your reacting 😭😭😭
Sweet summer child...
WERE SO DELUSIONAL 🙏🙏😭😭🔥🔥
"we had the tiktok rizz party" 💀
If he doesnt announce it in that convention im quiting
Two weeks and this hasn't aged well. People should just drop the copium.
Happy 13 years everyone! (😞)
I'm optimistic and say Winds will come out in 2042
He's already rich! He ain't never going to finish! He could crank out books when he was hungry. Just look at the dude, he ain't hungry no more!
This guy still believes in Santa
What a streeeeeeeetchhhh…
The cope is amazing
Could be winds of winter but could also be a celebration of the elden ring show or movie coming out that was leaked by hackers of fromsoft I don't know which one I'm more excited for.
We’re gonna get 3/4 of a book 😂
Bro this video was hilarious lmfao
Trying to find out why you sound……..like you have only one lung
9 years ago season 5 had finished
If he wrote half a page a day every day (80-90 words) TWOW would be longer than ADWD and out now
Considering he already had chunks already written that he cut from dance this is an insanely slow writing pace
But he doesn't sit down and write, we all know that, 10 to 20% of thje book is ADWD , that by the way if you didnt know originally the fourth book was going to be called ADWD but it was to big that it was split in two and even then there is still parts of it in Winds, but going back to my original point, he is a gardener he writes he reads again feels its not good throws it out and tries again. And he can do that endlessly until he is satisfied, he has no structure he has ideas i plants and sees where it takes him and if he doesnt like it he takes them out and plants again.
@@pilotoreplicante yeah I get that
I’m a numbers guy not an artist so frame it that way
13 was the age of consent in Japan until 2023 when they upped it to 16, lol.
I do not think he is even working on it anymore. Pure speculation: he is having less than a half of the book ready.
My far my biggest gripe is that he should make preparations and allow the book to be finished by someone else in line with his vision after his death, and the only reason he refuses to is out of narcissistic spite. But no, he is going to burn it down in a middle finger to everybody.
I think a more fair estimate is 2/3 of the book by 2022 when he suddenly opened up more about his progress on the book. This coincided with one of his visits to his publisher so he was probably forced to actually take a look at the progress.
2027 is absolute doom.
it will be in your bookshop before march 2029, and if it doesn't happen come back and add another 5 years to that and rinse and repeat until it comes out or he dies.
The problem is that he has a whole other book to write. He'll never finish this series unless he drops them both at the same time. If he drops Winds he'll announce that it has to be an 8 book series now.
My far my biggest gripe is that he should make preparations and allow the book to be finished by someone else in line with his vision after his death, and the only reason he refuses to is out of narcissistic spite. But no, he is going to burn it down in a middle finger to everybody.
cant wait for the asoiaf brainrot to rival lobotomy kaisen, I hope GRRM releases Winds chapter per chapter 😂
I hunt these videos down so I can read the comments
he has been done with 3/4 for 10 years now. i remember reading excerpts from his book 10 yeasr ago, telling me that it is finished soon. are you kidding me??
lol, why do you believe that?
“We are getting closer…”
No you aren’t. This man is not releasing this book until he passes. Why? He doesn’t want internet children getting mad at him for his decisions. If the books come anywhere close to the show you kids will be mad. If he writes anything other than what you kids have thought out in your heads, you kids will be mad. It’s lose/lose for him. He will sit back and collect his HBO checks and release this book when he is gone. Then he doesn’t have to worry about “fans.”
My far my biggest gripe is that he should make preparations and allow the books to be finished by someone else in line with his vision after his death, and the only reason he refuses to is out of narcissistic spite. But no, he is going to burn it down in a middle finger to everybody.
Wait are you saying winter is coming
He's going to announce it at worldcon, which was a month ago.
Whatever at this point its like crying wolf. He obsessed over every project but finishing his opus
lol sweet summer child.
Congrats on using the word delusional correctly, decadence and irony are two others that people get wrong.
Will Dreams be the final book?? How can he finish dreams if winds is in 2029😂
he will never release the books. he will lose all spotlight on himself the ONLY reason he is relevant is BECAUSE he hasnt finished them.
End of 2024 / beginning of 2025
Twow or fascism what comes first?
GTA VI
Just jump to Brandon sanderson Stormlight archive book 5 thus year!!!!! GOT won't be finished. We still need Dreams
It will never come out
This is highly unlikely I’m new to asoif but in interviews he always seems uninterested in finishing the main seriers
delulu
I'm so glad I never bothered to read the books. It's bad enough to invest so much in the show for it to all be nothing but a waste. I'd be even more pissed if I started on a book series that's never getting finished. I mean, come on. He's been sallying around putting out nothing but side projects like WOIAF and Fire & Blood instead of finishing his main series for YEARS. I'd rather have had one amazing 10-season Game of Thrones based on a finished book series, that I could actually enjoy re-watching, than all the consolation spinoff shows in the world-- like I seriously don't care about HOTD at all except for the fact it's all we're getting to redeem the failure of the original show. Unless he hires a ghost writer or makes provisions in his estate for someone to finish the books for him (and he won't), don't get your hopes up. He should seriously just let AI finish off the series. Martin lost his motivation a long time ago and now he's old and unhealthy AF.
consider if it truly never gets finished to still read it, the uncertainty makes it so bad. several plots and entire characters in the books are missing from the show and to me are so damn interesting.
@@Blackdeathgaming-yv1kk I feel the same way, but knowing those characters are not going to have any resolution makes me now want to touch the books ever again. And the fact that "A Dance" doesn't even have an "ending", and finished with cliffhangers doesn't help, either.
It wasn’t George’s fault GoT s8 was bad though right? The books weren’t even completed up until that point and the screenwriters decided on the ending. They could have probably delayed it a bit but HOTD is a good show atleast.
Trust me, the books are still well worth reading! I loved the show (seasons 1-4, mainly), but the books are SO much better!
A world and story as big as ASOIAF never really has a definite end so it's still worth reading .. Unless GRRM actually makes one of those apocalypse endings but I think that's unlikely for ASOIAF. Maybe King's Landing will turn to ashes and crumble, but the people in Westeros will survive in some way or fashion so there are always more stories to tell.
Kendrick Lamar can help him maybe with his work ethic and output
Please dont do rtbis to me again...
"and my sexuality" are you gay?
First time ?
But not
PLEASE
copium
😂😂😂😂