Hopefully this means there is an incoming Maschine software update that will finally unlock poly aftertouch and make use of the full expressive potential of the pads! (As well as making the new Keyboards actually work with NI's flagship host?)
No, this is POLYPHONIC aftertouch. It's not new in itself but it is very, very rare to find in keyboards. Not a fan of how deep this new controller is though, and it's all to accomodate the screen. I'd rather have led indicators on the knobs and a smaller display.
@federicobersano4588 Yes, I meant POLYPHONIC after touch. True, it's not common for now. It's the buzz feature companies are boasting, so I'm sure the others will join the band wagon.
@@ryanedwardmusic Yes, or you could buy a Waldorf Iridium. The point is that it’s fair for N.I. to be excited about making this feature accessible to those who can’t afford one of those. I am still not buying one, but it’s good to have more options if you want poly pressure.
As demos go this one left a LOT to be desired. No good examples of poly AT. Lightbar on the keyboard NOT shown while demonstrating direct Kontact integration, just the onscreen display. That is honestly one of the biggest deals in addition to the PolyAT keybed. Having the lightbar for Kontakt instrument mappings shown from within the DAW without having to use KK is fantastic. With all the CPU power supposedly onboard they need to move the arp, chord, and other keyboard capabilities onboard so you can easily use them with any synth including hardware.
I do show the keyboard lights working throughout many examples: Komplete Kontrol and Kontakt. They are particularly tricky to catch on camera from a zoomed-out overhead shot, but you can see them if you watch on a big enough screen. Try watching on your TV.
@@ReubenCornell OK, yeah the lights are harder to see than on the previous version. Question: what art the dimensions of the open spaces on the left and right sides? I am thinking the Maschine Mikro could go on one side and maybe the ERAE Touch on the other...
UPDATE CS-80 V4 already available for download in ASC. Hopefully as that is V4 of Arturia CS-80 current owners of Arturia V Collection 9 probably won't have to upgrade to V Collection 10 (later this year possibly) unless they add some newer versions of some of their older synths (which is likely) or decide to rebrand all synths to a new version number which would be a cr*p move to do to owners.
Arturia will update their plugins for compatability, but given that this keyboard was just announced, third parties will need timebto update their software to be NKS 2 compatible.
A design decision not to clutter, and to prioritize the most important information (e.g. what instrument are you playing, and what parameters are you adjusting?).
Sanity check: With the new MK3 keyboards, Komplete Kontrol does not have to be running on the computer. Correct? If correct, does KK even need to be installed on your computer? Will your DAW (Logic in my case) automatically recognize the MK3 control surface?
Kontrol S MK3 supports DAW Control regardless of what plug-in you have loaded. Additionally, it can connect directly to Kontakt, so you don't need Komplete Kontrol to use Kontakt instruments anymore. However, Komplete Kontrol is still needed to host VSTs.
I would have liked to see an in-depth insight into what it's like to control Diva or Arturia Synths fully on the kontrol s rather than just playing a few presets.
Any plug-in that supports Polyphonic Aftertouch, supports it regardless of what MIDI controller is being used. Of course, the MIDI controller has to be capable of sending the metadata to trigger the feature, but it is not locked to just Kontrol S MK3.
Poly aftertouch is extremely appreciated. I would have liked a ribbon controller and 76 key version. I think I will go to buy an Hydrasynth Deluxe. It has everything as a midi controller, a huge synth hardware power and not so bigger cost... I am not using Komplete kontrol live because I need full automation with all VSTs I like, a host like GigPerformer gives me live performance with no limits.
So Kontakt is well integrated. Actually not that much of a surprise. What is about third party implementation without KK? DIY third party without official support? For me nearly all of the issues I had with the MKII hardware are solved, I am ready to buy. But I will wait for the first year to pass or until I am sure I see a good and open way for DIY integration. Never liked closed systems and will never do.
Sorry to see this video.I can't find the point you call it Next Generation NKS on NI website。Actually NKS 2.0 came out in 5 or 6 years ago , everyone can google it. I just want to figure out what's different between Kontrol S MKII, and what's different between Komplete Kontrol 2.9.2? If NI told me the next gen nks just mean Kontrol S MK3 connect Kontakt 7.6 directly, I'll close my mouth.😅
NKS is currently on version 1.7. NKS2 is coming out later this year, as shown above, as part of the Kontrol S MK3 launch. It includes: - Richer parameter metadata (relevant iconography such as waveforms, toggles, etc) - More flexible navigation (powerful and complex products have organized parameter groups, accessible via the buttons at the top of the screen, so far less endless page scrolling).
@@NativeInstruments Glad to receive your reply，You have changed your logo, product naming, and continuously expanded your NKS partners, but the list of NKS partners on the official website has not been updated in 6 years. The reality above is still Arturia V Collection 6，
Not worth the upgrade also like in the past developers will tak years to come aboard.. Arturia already have there controler and analog V lab software that works great.
And imagine how much greater it'll be when they add NKS2 compatibility!! A lot of NI controller owners do buy Arturia's B Collection exactly because of its NKS compatibility, so I'm sure they will add NKS2 compatibility in the near future.
Out of the gate, MK3 is already compatible with all NKS1 instruments. Additionally, there are tons of new NKS2 instruments coming weekly. Since you mention Arturia, they’ve already begun to implement NKS2, with CS-80 shipped already!
Too many abandoned products with slow release/update schedules for me to continue to invest in NI. Still major bugs and missing features in maschine, no updates to Reaktor in half a decade. They simply dont do a good job of sticking with a product once its been released. Too bad bc they used to be my all time favorite leading the industry in innovation. Not anymore.
Hopefully this means there is an incoming Maschine software update that will finally unlock poly aftertouch and make use of the full expressive potential of the pads! (As well as making the new Keyboards actually work with NI's flagship host?)
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Good times
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NI always do amazing but why all these companies all of sudden act like After touch is new. Keyboards like the korg m3 had that in the 2000s
No, this is POLYPHONIC aftertouch. It's not new in itself but it is very, very rare to find in keyboards. Not a fan of how deep this new controller is though, and it's all to accomodate the screen. I'd rather have led indicators on the knobs and a smaller display.
@federicobersano4588 Yes, I meant POLYPHONIC after touch. True, it's not common for now. It's the buzz feature companies are boasting, so I'm sure the others will join the band wagon.
The Ensoniq keyboards in the 80s had polyphonic aftertouch. And of course the CS-80.
@@ryanedwardmusic Yes, or you could buy a Waldorf Iridium. The point is that it’s fair for N.I. to be excited about making this feature accessible to those who can’t afford one of those. I am still not buying one, but it’s good to have more options if you want poly pressure.
@@ryanedwardmusic are these keyboards you are talking about or midi controllers. Don't know how many midi controllers have pholphonic aftertouch
I can’t wait to see companies like UVI mapping their plugins with NKS2
Uvi would be awesome ❤
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As demos go this one left a LOT to be desired. No good examples of poly AT. Lightbar on the keyboard NOT shown while demonstrating direct Kontact integration, just the onscreen display. That is honestly one of the biggest deals in addition to the PolyAT keybed. Having the lightbar for Kontakt instrument mappings shown from within the DAW without having to use KK is fantastic. With all the CPU power supposedly onboard they need to move the arp, chord, and other keyboard capabilities onboard so you can easily use them with any synth including hardware.
I do show the keyboard lights working throughout many examples: Komplete Kontrol and Kontakt. They are particularly tricky to catch on camera from a zoomed-out overhead shot, but you can see them if you watch on a big enough screen. Try watching on your TV.
@@ReubenCornell OK, yeah the lights are harder to see than on the previous version. Question: what art the dimensions of the open spaces on the left and right sides? I am thinking the Maschine Mikro could go on one side and maybe the ERAE Touch on the other...
Just chiming in to say 1) We love Reuben and 2) Play Assist onboard you say? Hmmm... stay tuned. 👀
@@NativeInstruments come on, spill the beans - especially since I am already definitely getting one just need to decide 61 or 88...
We plan to do it next, via an update. But just can’t confirm timeline
UPDATE CS-80 V4 already available for download in ASC.
Hopefully as that is V4 of Arturia CS-80 current owners of Arturia V Collection 9 probably won't have to upgrade to V Collection 10 (later this year possibly) unless they add some newer versions of some of their older synths (which is likely) or decide to rebrand all synths to a new version number which would be a cr*p move to do to owners.
What about all the V Collection 9 by ATURIA. Is only the CS 80 updated to te new generation of NKS?
Arturia will update their plugins for compatability, but given that this keyboard was just announced, third parties will need timebto update their software to be NKS 2 compatible.
That´s very cool, thanks for answering@@FernandoDCDuarte
More instruments are coming weekly! There are more from Arturia coming soon as well 👀
Kontakt integration is huge. MK1 and MK2 compatible? Just with Kontakt 7?
Mk3 and with K7
support.native-instruments.com/hc/en-us/articles/13530175798045-Kontrol-S-MK3-What-is-Direct-Connection-
Forgot about Symphonic Destruction! Thanks for the reminder!
Heavyocity make some incredible instruments!!! ❤️
Definitely! @@NativeInstruments
Why have that big screen on the new controllers if half the screen is still being wasted with a title banner?
A design decision not to clutter, and to prioritize the most important information (e.g. what instrument are you playing, and what parameters are you adjusting?).
I can't get any of my third party plugins to work in KK. I've updated Diva, Arturia, etc. I'm stuck.
Our dedicated support team will be happy to have a closer look. Feel free to contact us through the form over here: bit.ly/n1kontrol
Got it all worked out. It's even more amazing than I anticipated. Thanks@@NativeInstruments
Sanity check: With the new MK3 keyboards, Komplete Kontrol does not have to be running on the computer. Correct? If correct, does KK even need to be installed on your computer? Will your DAW (Logic in my case) automatically recognize the MK3 control surface?
Kontrol S MK3 supports DAW Control regardless of what plug-in you have loaded.
Additionally, it can connect directly to Kontakt, so you don't need Komplete Kontrol to use Kontakt instruments anymore. However, Komplete Kontrol is still needed to host VSTs.
I would have liked to see an in-depth insight into what it's like to control Diva or Arturia Synths fully on the kontrol s rather than just playing a few presets.
Great. Where do i find my Time Macro update ? Nothing in native acces. Just Damage 2. Do i have to buy it once more ??? Thanks.
It should be there - please reach out to customer support if not.
Do previous S serie keyboard have polyphonic aftertouch?
No
Monophonic
will this work with other controllers that have polyphonic aftertouch? Or did you lock it down for the KK MK3 Keyboards
Any plug-in that supports Polyphonic Aftertouch, supports it regardless of what MIDI controller is being used. Of course, the MIDI controller has to be capable of sending the metadata to trigger the feature, but it is not locked to just Kontrol S MK3.
Poly aftertouch is extremely appreciated. I would have liked a ribbon controller and 76 key version. I think I will go to buy an Hydrasynth Deluxe. It has everything as a midi controller, a huge synth hardware power and not so bigger cost...
I am not using Komplete kontrol live because I need full automation with all VSTs I like, a host like GigPerformer gives me live performance with no limits.
Hydrasynth is awesome! I will say it might be worth comparing the polyphonic aftertouch of each to see which is best for you. We certainly did …
Show us how we can map omnisphere with the new tabs
They’d need to implement NKS2 on their end
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I’d settle for a zoom function on the software window
How about regenerating ABSYNTH? It's still one of the best NI's synths!
Did I notice a new version of Komplete Kontrol...
Yes! Good eyes 👀. Komplete Kontrol 3 will ship when the keyboards ship later this year.
@@NativeInstruments Finally
So Kontakt is well integrated. Actually not that much of a surprise.
What is about third party implementation without KK? DIY third party without official support?
For me nearly all of the issues I had with the MKII hardware are solved, I am ready to buy.
But I will wait for the first year to pass or until I am sure I see a good and open way for DIY integration.
Never liked closed systems and will never do.
If they are NKS compatible, yes... but, all through NI's software ecosystem as it is an NI controller, designed to work with its software.
Cool Stuff 👍🏻🔥
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Memorymoon ME80 has true poly AT
Awesome!!!💯💯❤❤
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Sorry to see this video.I can't find the point you call it Next Generation NKS on NI website。Actually NKS 2.0 came out in 5 or 6 years ago , everyone can google it. I just want to figure out what's different between Kontrol S MKII, and what's different between Komplete Kontrol 2.9.2? If NI told me the next gen nks just mean Kontrol S MK3 connect Kontakt 7.6 directly, I'll close my mouth.😅
Your video just show us next generation NKS instruments,the point is instruments, not NKS
NKS is currently on version 1.7.
NKS2 is coming out later this year, as shown above, as part of the Kontrol S MK3 launch. It includes:
- Richer parameter metadata (relevant iconography such as waveforms, toggles, etc)
- More flexible navigation (powerful and complex products have organized parameter groups, accessible via the buttons at the top of the screen, so far less endless page scrolling).
@@NativeInstruments Glad to receive your reply，You have changed your logo, product naming, and continuously expanded your NKS partners, but the list of NKS partners on the official website has not been updated in 6 years. The reality above is still Arturia V Collection 6，
Yes that web page is just out of date and not kept up. There are hundreds of partners and thousands of products at this point!
Not worth the upgrade also like in the past developers will tak years to come aboard.. Arturia already have there controler and analog V lab software that works great.
And imagine how much greater it'll be when they add NKS2 compatibility!!
A lot of NI controller owners do buy Arturia's B Collection exactly because of its NKS compatibility, so I'm sure they will add NKS2 compatibility in the near future.
@FernandoDCDuarte hopefully there track record in the last 10 years says different.. It looks good a beta .
Out of the gate, MK3 is already compatible with all NKS1 instruments. Additionally, there are tons of new NKS2 instruments coming weekly. Since you mention Arturia, they’ve already begun to implement NKS2, with CS-80 shipped already!
@@NativeInstruments I agree it looks great it is the old 3rd party libraries in the past were the problem.. we will see it looks good..
So many synths. But sytrus and harmor, will make all these sounds or any sound from any vst synth.
Too many abandoned products with slow release/update schedules for me to continue to invest in NI. Still major bugs and missing features in maschine, no updates to Reaktor in half a decade. They simply dont do a good job of sticking with a product once its been released. Too bad bc they used to be my all time favorite leading the industry in innovation. Not anymore.
why does the narrator sound like an ai