$40 junky Chinese scooter - will it run?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ค. 2024
- In this video, I inspect an old 150cc GY6 scooter to diagnose why it doesn't run. Follow along to learn some techniques to fix the carburetor, ignition system, and much more!
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0:00 intro
0:41 title
2:59 tires
4:01 turn signals
4:33 mirrors
4:43 speedometer
4:58 front brake
5:24 ignition switch
5:49 throttle cable and grips
6:01 inside the gauges
7:04 battery
7:59 seat
8:17 emissions and air box
9:36 exhaust and wiring
10:11 engine oil
10:44 rear suspension
11:00 gas tank
11:40 carburetor
13:15 testing the fuel petcock
15:07 drive belt and transmission
16:17 variator
16:46 clutch
17:30 oil change
18:36 fuel system
19:24 evaporative emissions charcoal canister
19:39 installing the carburetor
20:14 gas leak
20:24 carburetor float bowl adjustment
22:17 installing the battery
22:22 bypassing the ignition switch
23:08 check the fuse
23:59 testing the ignition power
24:19 testing the starter solenoid
25:08 checking for spark
25:22 spark plug gap
25:52 spark tester
26:02 swapping the coil
26:16 swapping the CDI
26:36 now it runs
28:19 removing the rust from the gas tank
29:40 final inspection
30:38 fill up the fuel
30:52 idle adjustment
31:25 headlights and turn signals
31:44 test ride
32:48 parts and prices discussion
35:03 conclusion - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
if you're worried about longevity or reliability when it comes to those GY6 engines. I've got about 11,000 mi on mine. Never left me stranded. I use it as my grocery getter I can haul a bucket of cat litter, 40 lb of dog food and 20 lb of cat food on the floor with no issues. 10. Mi home. The best thing I can recommend is to throw the factory carburetor in the trash and buy a slide carburetor for it . makes a huge difference!
Thanks for the tip! I haven't tried a slide carburetor yet. I heard the throttle response is much better too.
Thanks 4 this
@@TheTopCat650 I saw those, but I thought the risk did not outweigh the benefit. almost 100 bucks is steep and as you said, the cable might not be long enough. I'm surprised that with the gy6 50cc and 150cc platforms being so popular that there wouldn't be more slide carbs out there and some of those being cheaper. I also like the thought of manual choke. I'd rather not have the enricher. I prefer to not choke first, then incrementally add choke as needed to start. it causes less carbon buildup.
@@edwardjames6070
Fact is on Scoots the carb is hidden under the "Tupperware" plastic bodywork, so playing with a manual carb lever isn't workable.
I bought one, broke down after 10 miles. Rebuilt 3 times, breaks down every time after a couple weeks. This guy with 11,000 miles has probably rebuilt it 100 times and is coping. Easier to just walk.
never owned a scooter prior to the one i got last friday. its a Yiben MC150T-6 (whatever that means). Thanks to your video got it running in about an hour (I have never worked on a scooter before in my life). Cost for the bike 200 dollars, cost for parts 115.
A lot of your twitchy steering can be fixed by taking the ball bearings out of the neck, cleaning them and repacking them or replacing them if necessary.
My favorite part so far is the big sparks from shorting the solenoid right next to the sour cream tank 😂
I appreciate your videos and work so very much! All credit to you. The reason my scooter is up and running and customized. Thank you so so so much!
what an entertaining video! watching this whole thing front to back and would love to see more. thanks paul!
Your a genius. One of the very best TH-camrs ever.
Looks like I got that excact same thing with 50cc engine from 2007. 12" tires but all parts still match (not that motor) it is stored inside and it is still in excellent working order. Last 10 years it has been not used so that's why. Thanks for this clip it really clears things to work with it later!
I have the same motorcycle you repaired in this video, but it's keeway 50 focus. I found it on a random junk and I repaired it like you did, but I'm still don't run with it out of my town, cause it still doesn't have her paper. And your information here was really helpful, thank you.
It is a scooter not a motorcycle.
Best scooter video on TH-cam by a long mile you know your stuff, great video🌟🌟🌟
You are something... what an amazing video,really;
You push on with such speed,that we get tired from this side, just by watching you cover so much ground in little time *lol*
Now,seriously, that was altogether a terrific job, you covered a whole lot;
funtastic;
thanks.
Thanks! That's an awesome comment. I hope people can learn stuff from these videos. The ongoing theme here is: with a Chinese scooter, everything is broken.
Excelent video! the comparison and analysis that worthless about reparing the scooter is perfect. At the fist view, it seems could be a great deal to reparir it, but it doesn't. Thanks for that!
A lot of people jump into a project like this not knowing how bad it really is. I wanted to show that.
Great video! Covers near everything. I learned a lot what hoses do what and the CDI I didn’t know about.
Thanks! It's one of the reasons I bought such a bad scooter.
Such a great channel! Cheers mate
Totally sound reasoning. Great video. Very informative.
Thank you. Very informative.learned more in this video than in 3 mos. Of research
Great stuff Sir. Very entertaining. 👍
Thank you so much Paul, for showing us how to trouble shoot and fix so many issues on these China scooters. I just inherited two 150 scooters .they have been in a barn for 8 years because of a family member dying. One had gas put in it and driven 0.8 miles and the other one has 0000 miles and never had gas put in. So far neither one will run . They start right up with a shot of starting fluid in the breather hole but then died because they are not picking up any gas. I figured the one with gas would have junky gas in the carb and need cleaned, but I don't know why the brand new one is doing the same thing. So your carb fixing tutor here should help. Thanks again..... signed.. David.
Thanks for watching, and good luck with your scooters: Check out the full playlist here: th-cam.com/play/PL1_JDBt1LSiJQETjZiOFXBKtv-ZzfqEx0.html
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Is a great spare parts scooter or a cool off-road scooter project. The engine sounds good, it did not even 💨 when it started. Great video as usual.
It ran pretty well. I forgot to adjust the valves. That would make it start better.
Great vid Paul, thank you
Great video love your narration.
Excellent honest video
When you opened the master cylinder, I verbally scoffed.
Thanks for the information 👍
as much as that's missing parts, i'd do a resto mod on it, turning it into more of a ruckus style scooter. throw some off road style tires, replace the headlights with some baja style units, etc.
I have the same one diffrent brand from the uk lexmoto gladiator 125 mines around about on 20000 miles still runs great
Best video on fixing
I love the 80's fast look
Very well done video. My favorite cliff hangar scene was watching the sparks when you used the screwdriver to short across the starter solenoid, right next to the open top plastic cup with gas in it. While in a closed garage. This is not a criticism, and I assumed it would all be okay since the video got uploaded. Clones of the old style ford car starter solenoids are not too expensive, and have much bigger contacts for longer life. I put one on my riding lawnmower for much less money than the "real" one cost.
I guess I like to live dangerously. The sparks next to the gas are only a problem on a hot day where there's a lot of fuel vapor. If it's freezing outside, you can drop a lit match into a cup of gas to extinguish it.
@@LabCoatPaul Perhaps. The Flash point temperature of gasoline is -45°F. We would all miss you if you were gone. You have great content. I hope you do a clutch change on your first gen RAV4, I need to do mine.
Thank you so much man!
Nice video
I bought my 150cc money pit as a cheap and convenient city vehicle.... it has been anything but that haha. In the end though, parts for scoots are relatively cheap compared to the car world, and I love working on it because of how easy everything is to install. Has it left me stranded? yes. Have body panels or parts fallen off during riding? also yes. Do I regret buy it? not as all. I have such a blast with it despite everything, and when it does run, it runs damn smooth. Buy these if you want a project, if you want an actually good scoot, go elsewhere. AND GET A LOCK OF SORTS FOR CHRIST SAKE! Can't tell you how many times I've rebuilt this thing after it being stolen 😂
A Chinese scooter is more than just transportation. It's a repair hobby! Thanks for watching.
South dakota my friend. Titling in South dakota is a fantastic work around any registration issues.
Good advice! In Utah, there a couple extra forms to fill out if the title is missing, but they don't actually care. Chinese scooters aren't worth much and they'll make you a title.
youtube, algorithm recommended your video to me, wow you have excellent videos on scooters repair, love part lists, and also like where you get your parts, I'm doing a restoration of an early 80's Suzuki FA 50 cc scooter, left outside for years( given scooter to me) videoing my process, have major rust corrosion parts( brakes) so far, where can I find parts for Suzuki 80's parts? great videos you have, Richard.
i actually have the same model scooter, only mine i a 99cc. 2008 Chunli TMS S3. Mine is all black with red stickers that are peeling, and mine has the turn signals where yours have the small parking lights in the main headlight cluster.. Same speedometer, etc. My airbox turned into dust. I bought it for 10cents from a guy that gave up on it. Runs well after a battery, oil change and a new exhaust + tuning the carb.
very detail explanation...... good job❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Brilliant video, in the UK we say you can’t polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter. That scooter was a turd! Brilliant video, thank you!
just a tip...before dissembling engine for inside engine work,really god practice-to wash engine case first ,to get rid of sand and other things from surface .That prevent cylinder ,piston ,crank,valves from damage.
Thanks for the tip!
I learned to clean an engine before working on it
It needs new owner. That is you lab paul. Awesome
That information about the title issue is good advise for your state but you also need to know that there are different rules in different states. For instance in Indiana, Scooters don't require a license plate for they don't meet the speed requirements but they also don't title scooters so you just register it anyway and they will issue you a license plate and will copy a the title you do have on it if you have one. They can create a new title for you in your name but must physically see the scooter to get the VIN number off of the unit.
I wach this and now I want one sctooer too!
I was hoping to learn the fine tuning of carb, and trans....Maybe next time.. Great vid.
You got this scooter the same way I got one of the two I own. From a guy who collects scrap metal and he got it from someone who threw it away.
I have a 2018 taotao 50cc gy6 it had 70 miles on it when I bought it it has zero issues I got a cvt kit for it it gets great mileage starts in one or two kicks every time even dead of winter total investment on the scooter is so far is 850 the bike retails at 1200 so basically if you get a scooter used just don’t by one on it’s death bead 1 and 2 it’s still less than a car all the way around from gas to repairs hell en entire engine rebuild on a scooter is cheaper than a basic repair bill for any car’s suspension so I don’t really get why you wouldn’t think it’s worth it besides the insurance and even that’s not a good argument because that’s cheaper than any car insurance would be
Brilliant engine for a go cart...😊
Great job 👍👍👍👍👋🏾👋🏾👋🏾👋🏾
Thank you!
Hi, specific mc oil is used when mc engine has to lubricate gears and crankshaft ,valves ,clutch and piston at up to 14000 RPM . GY6 engine don't have gears to lubricate at such high RPM...so you car use ordinary oil for cars, 20W-50 really good choice in not winter seasons.
Don't be afraid of water to hose it worn and scrub, and yes I do electronic to as roaches get on the board and shet on it. LOL just let it dry in the sun and it look as clean as it can get way down and behind too. But use your head and minimized componate that semi sealed
Superbly put together video . One of the best I have seen of this type . Really intetesting . Well done . Regards from the uk
I’ll buy it Paul
I own 50cc gy6 scooter. It does 80km/h, has 10k km on odo and all things i had to do was to replace oil and belt.
Something really big you have to be concerned about in CA is that they charge the NEW OWNER with all the late fees on the registration accumulated by the previous owner. That can amount to hundreds, even thousands of $$$ if the vehicle has not been registered for a long time.
holly smokes!!
Do they still know if you register it in another state?
@@awdrifter3394 No. If you buy a CA vehicle, and title and register it in another state, you don't have to pay the fees. Those go to the state of CA, so they don't apply if you are not in CA. Of course you usually have to be a resident of the state you title and register it in. A CA resident would not be able to register it out of state.
@@geraldscott4302 that's good to know. I guess if you're a CA resident with a vehicle that owes a lot of fees, the only way is to sell it to an out of state buyer.
Next wiring diagram basic to pro. It don’t matter how long is the video I’ll be in watch.
My Chinese scooter playlist includes most repairs: th-cam.com/play/PL1_JDBt1LSiJQETjZiOFXBKtv-ZzfqEx0.html
Another great video. You forget to mention how much time it took you to learn all of this stuff, not to mention who taught you. I bought my first Chinese scooter this week new. I've been riding motorcycles for 40+ years and doing what I can to fix them when they break, I have 2 bikes right now a 1992 Suzuki vs800 and a 1986 Yamaha xv1100 in addition to my new scooter. Hopefully I'll be able to maintain this old Chinese scooter for a long time, though I doubt it will be running for 31 and 37+ years as the Yamaha and Suzuki are.
I noticed in another of your videos you put locktite on everything. I'm wondering what I should do now with this new scooter to make it last a long time. Any advice on how to keep the nuts and bolts from falling apart? Changing oil is easy enough. And is there a type of belt that lasts longer when this one wears out?
Congratulations on the new Chinese scooter... I guess... or maybe I should say sorry...
Chinese scooters tend to use low quality metal for the bolts. Standard bolts are labeled grade 2, 5, 8... based on their psi strength rating. Chinese scooter bolts are weaker than the grade 2 bolts you'll find at Home Depot.
When you take parts off the scooter, put them back on with new bolts. You can find the small M6 x 1.0 flanged bolts at ACE Hardware, online, or get some old bolts off a car in the junkyard. The bolts that hold the wheels, shock, and engine are stronger because they're big. Use loctite so they don't unscrew themselves.
When you have the seat and body plastic off, replace fuel hoses and remove / simplify emissions components. I have a few videos about that.
Your Chinese scooter will work for as long as you want, but you'll have to do 10x more repairs than a Honda.
When the Chinese scooter is 30 years old, it will look like it's 200 years old, and you'll have spent 1,000 hours repairing it.
Go through Vermont if you don’t have a title. Way easier since they do not require titles for vehicles over 15 years old or even newer motorcycles under 300cc. You will get plates and registration that you can take to your dmv and say I want a title and they will take your Vermont registration and hand you an instate title and registration
Definitely agree tho that cost doesn’t seem worth it for that scooter, I’ve had 5 Chinese mopeds in the last year and got all for under $200 and got them running decently with just a couple hours and simple parts. Even running I don’t find these to be worth much more than $6-700 in my market. Fun projects tho!
bought the scooter again!
Watching you spark the solenoid next to your "gas tank"
You ever come across one that at idle it has a little thump in idle can't seem to get it out
I feel like this would be a good stunt scooter if you did the right mofs to it
Should you have clean it first with a pressurize water sprayer before dismantling?
dealing with titles SUCKS even if they are 1 owner and you knew them. My grandfather owned 7 wheeled vehicles. all but 1 of significate value. During his final years battling cancer he miss placed them. (we never found them). Even with the death certificate getting new titles has been a NIGHTMARE. he has been gone for 3 years and we are still battling this. all of the stuff he owned was bought brand new from lot so all 1 owner and its still a headache.
Wire harness ebay 40 four all time u get done about 350 to redo it an get it running an carbs are about 40 oil is about 5 a jug an on ebay to tires 60
Hi Lab Coat, thanks for the unvarnished commentary in each of these videos. I've got one of those GY6 150's and debating whether or not to upgrade most of the major components (CVT, Big Bore Kit, Oil Cooler, Shocks) to ride the 2023 Scooter Cannonball. Or just purchase a Honda ADV 150 or Logan KPV 150. I'm figuring it's going to run at least 2k for quality parts. Got about 6 months to figure it out. Could be an adventure, just not sure if it would be a "fun" adventure. What's your opinion?
I had no idea that existed! Chinese scooters can be ok if you replace the whole scooter. (or most of it). If you've fully gone through the scooter, you might make it the 3,170 miles. You're far more likely not to break down on a Honda.
If you're in it for "fun", sure - bring a Chinese scooter, tools, spare parts, and duct tape. You'll be having many unexpected adventures.
@@LabCoatPaul Yeah Paul, it's a really interesting rally, been following it from the periphery for a few years.
Yes, totally agree with you on going with the Japanese bikes if I'm positive that I want a decent chance to finish. And that is definitely a viable option for me.
But... the thought of creating a "Frankenstein" Chinese scoot is something I've been wondering about. If you could locate the best off-the-shelf parts and swap them out. Could you actually make a respectable Adventure Scooter?
If you get a chance, take a closer look at the Cannonball and see what's happened in past. I just decided to pull the trigger on it this year, for next year!
Thanks for your great videos, I do learn quite a bit from them!
Wish I had it I wish I had that scooter here in Missouri I could drive it with no problem
amen to that
What size are those wires to the solenoid? I gotta get new wires someone stole my battery
I hope all moped ignition switch is that easy to swap
A lot of honda moped, the bolt are on the opposite side, to open it, you have to disassemble the whole front end from tire to steering stem 🤣 that's a PITA for sure
Interesting
How to master motorcycle maintenance:
Buy a chinese scooter.
Guarantee something will break and you'll learn a thing or two. Plus they're super cheap so you can save money and learn while saving up for a good motorcycle lol.
Time well spent in my opinion, some people pay 200 a month for sat tv and they just sit in front of it marinating, but yeah, if your not a tinkerer and its your only transport, probably better off with a car and cable tv.
Cars are more expensive in the long run.
26:18 The CDI so classic
In the UK the seller does the change of ownership the buyer has nothing to do with it and it was done for this very reason.
Hello Brother...I got 50 cc moto too...I thinking to cancel EGR system too... really do you advice this? any harm to engine? Thanx
hey you really know this stuff well. could i ask you a ?. I'm looking at 150 or 170 scooters. Is there a good china made unit that I should look at. It's hard to know what is junk and what might make a good bike for the money.
I do believe you when you say the scooter will not last long. But I wonder how long it will last if you take care of it. Or what scooter should you get other than this kind. If you own a scooter and a newer car keeping miles off the car can help a lot with depreciation which can help with resale value. Also a set of tires for a car can almost cost as much as 90% of a new scooter.
I can answer this: with the best of care, expect the scooter to last 4 years before it finally gives out entirely. I would recommend a Honda scooter of any style. Hell get the Honda super cub. It's the world's most reliable and best selling scooter in history with over 100 million units sold. It's reliable, good power for the frame, and parts are abundant due to very few changes between models, allowing you to assemble a frankenscooter if you so wish
you overestimate the time a variator and new belt took me 15 min not 1 hour it was a whole variater kit i put on
Do you take bikes in to fix them for customer
In my country, you could buy very good used Honda scooter for 900$. It's the reason I never saw one of these junky scooter.
oh oh can we get vintage Japanese rebuild?
"Without registration, you cant ride this on the road"
*chuckles in Missouri*
But seriously though, if you live in a state that doesnt require rego for scooters like this one, $45 would be a steal for someone whose mechanically inclined and looking to build something custom
I thought about turning into an off road scooter without lights and plastic, but I have a real dirt bike too, so that would be silly.
@@LabCoatPaul I've got a wild idea for you? You know how to weld? You got an old four wheeler laying around? You know those old pre world war cycle cars like the Standford Cycles car and the Morgan 3 wheeler?
What I'm getting at is that I'm building a modern cycle car that fits withing my states moped guidelines so I can have a car with a sealed, heated cabin that doesnt require insurance or a title to drive
@@LabCoatPaul also if you can do it for cheap, it's not silly if its fun
How much did your new scooter costs wow I like it were u get it at
I bought the orange scooter used from the local classified ads for $400. It was very bad too.
th-cam.com/video/a40dcmD99kQ/w-d-xo.html
you could design some 3d models and send them to a place to 3d print for the shrouds. or you could 3d print some shrouds yourself.
U can use tubes ebay man any part u need they sale any thang u need four em tubes are about 2 four 20 but u can get tubeless tires four scooters
We have in syria the prices is cheper for the gy6 cuase the Chinese motorcycle part
im pretty sure Chinese manufacturer of that bike have not even seen torque wrench.... stuff just come off on its own for rusts sake
I want this creature
you should stick the engine into a dirt bike
Over 6000 miles, nearly 10.000 km is amazing. The one we had done 1300 km and the engine died. Game over. Not worth repairing it.
Good work, I need plastic parts for this model, where can i buy it ?
Try looking for parts online. roketapartsdept.com/ sells body fairings but they're expensive.
That thing you fixed could be sold for 300$ in my country
Yep I live in weird part of this planet
32:02 "the handling and suspension is terrible" proceeds to go 40 mph in a 25 zone
Don't worry about the motor the frame broke before the engine x)
Make your own fuel hoses an other fuel hoses
how is this 150cc
I have to ask - since the GY6 doesn't have a wet clutch, shouldn't you be using regular automotive oil (with its friction modifiers) instead of motorcycle oil (without)? It's been my understanding that motorcycle oil does not contain those friction modifiers in order to keep the wet clutch working.
That's right, the scooter does not need friction modifiers for the clutch. You can use automotive oil, but I think air cooled motorcycle oil may be designed to handle higher temperatures.
@LabCoatPaul 10w30 or 10w40 motorcycle oil as putting the wrong oil in or wrong graded oil can damage the components and engine itself it's like running a car or a scooter/moped or motorcycle or any other thing with a engine without oil or wrong oil or over filled oil can cause serious damage to the engine and thst also goes with the wrong grades or oil aswell as you use wet clutch oil in your normal scooter that will make everything slip or even damage the engine completely or even heat sieze it aswell which isn't good
I got a 50 cc scooter an in Hillsboro Ohio they told me I don't need a Tite four it all I need is I'd an work lights on it an horn. They told me but if bigger than 50 cc yes u have to have Tite an tags on them I just bought a tao tao pony 50 scooter I gave 600 an spent 300 on it to get it running bests scooter ever I ride it every day even in cold 🥶
Thats a mondial rf 150cc not a gy6
no gy 6 owner wants to see that dip stick ever ever again oh my friggn gawsh
what a banger video tho, this realy opend my eyes to how tough these motors realy are, as soon as i saw that dip stick i would of just said "uhp time to get a xpro 150 from amazon for $300"
but i did get triggered when u said that the kick starters aren't verry reliable, is that only for the 150ccs? because my 50 cc kick starter is amazing
Yes, the 50cc kick starters work well. I've never had a 150 kickstarter actually work.
The good news:
The electric starter is very reliable.
Cheap AGM scooter batteries from Amazon are very reliable
The bad news:
These scooters have horrible charging systems. If it doesn't charge the battery, your starter won't work.
The 11-pole stator upgrade is the solution to this problem.
Half hour to fit wing mirrors....LOL
Instead of Evaporust you can just use a strong vinegar
Yep, and it's a good idea to throw in a (counted) number of clean bolts & nuts, filling the tank all the way to the top. every few hours you can shake the tank around and the bolts/nuts will help dislodge the rust, rather than relying on a pressure washer which will not reach many places in the tank. Remove the vinegar and bolts, clean out then spray with some machine oil to help prevent flash rusting.