Upgrading my Off-Grid Power System at the Beach House - Ecoflow 5kw Power Kit
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- I installed a basic off-grid power system at the beach house when we bought the place 6 years ago with the intention of upgrading when I could afford it. The batteries are now getting tired and I'm having to run the petrol generator frequently to charge them up.. When Ecoflow offered me a 5kw lithium power kit to test out I gladly accepted. I'm very impressed with it, I can retire the old generator.
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Shout out to EcoFlow. It’s always good to see cool companies supporting great channels.
It's nice getting a little help after you've been helping so many others. I hope this new equipment lasts and works well for you for many years to come.
Well said, and much deserved.
Glad you're starting to receive some modern kit now. You deserve it. Happy New Year to your entire family.
Please make your videos 60 mins long….I can’t get enough. Your videos are an inspiration. No intros, not stage, just simple and original content. Love it!!! Thanks for sharing.
How is it your 24 hour day is so much longer than ours? You get so much done, looking after 3 properties some distance apart, fixing roads, turning trees into planks and firewood, fixing machinery, helping to fix other people's machinery, go out boating and fishing, explore, maintain a relationship with your family, and still have time to go away for a weeks holiday from time to time, and the only time I see you in a rush is when you speed up the camera footage.
5am sunrise and 930pm sunsets help in nz atm😂
He shares a life with a secret twin brother of course. Who do you think operates the camera?
@@jerrybow8779 legit, so good... considering first decent amount of sun I'm the north island atm.. 10+mls would be good rn for the grass tho lol
Making videos is his full time job. So, he needs content for his you tube channel. It's not like he has a regular full time job and makes videos.
@@abrahamedelstein4806 ..... sometimes You could think they're triplets
Great and informative video as always Marty. With regard to the battery box, any battery can go faulty and the fire risk is real, chances of putting them out once in thermal runaway is slim. I would suggest a battery box away from the house completely, if the worst ever happens it can burn itself out safely 👍
The kids squeal of delight put a smile on my face, fast track! “HAPPY NEW YEAR” and thanks for sharing your adventures and expertise. Always entertaining and I learn something with every episode. ☮️
Ecoflow makes a good system, their warranty is the weak point, as with all these "solar generators" . 24 months for the serious components, 36 more fore other parts. That's not tremendously long for the expense of a full blown unit with panels and extra battery pods. The greatest issue I've seen with all of these systems, across the manufacturing spectrum, is the absence of a repair service. It fails outside of warranty, you have a really expensive, toxic boat anchor. The electronics, the circuit board, the complexity is the weak point, no one offers a repair service, in house or independent. That needs to change. If you sell it, you need to be able to offer a repair service. Check it out, I'll be happy to be wrong.
you dont want to use water as fire retardant, lithium reacts with H20 unless you can fully submerge it your gona want it away from the house though a concrete bunker is a great idea
Yes I've heard water can make a lithium fire worse, a concrete cover with sprinklers above to keep it cool should be adequate
I think in the Netherlands they have purpose built open top 20ft shipping containers full of water and telehandlers stationed around the cities with high concentrations of EV cars to drop any cars that catch on fire straight into the drink.
@@MartyT You should be fine, if you want to submerge it in a fire, make the vault deep enough for the sprinkler to totally get it under water
When making concrete pads, or battery bunkers etc you should look at using plastic fibre reinforcement. One version is called emesh. It will span well so good for a vented fire box for your batteries. And the mesh comes in a bag so are very easy to transport.
Probably did not have any Re-Bar around and not really needed with a 6inch thick pad on clay for what is about 20kg weight!
@@robbristow not really needed for this slab, but for a fireblock yes. The cool things are that the plastic rebar is light, doesn't rust, and you just shake it in as you mix so easy for off grid and handy for earthquake and heavy rain areas like NZ.
You probably already know this, but you have to smother lithium battery fires, water will make it worse. A good idea for a fire protection system for the lithium battery would be to place a bag(s) (plastic) of sand above the battery. So that that if there is a fire the plastic bag will melt, releasing the sand smother the fire.
What do you do if the bag splits when the plastic degrades over the years?
@@TheMightyYak Everything needs periodic maintenance/replacement……even plastic bags !
Dear Marty T.
👍👌👏 Of course it's a great and very informative video again and as always. But the best part is definitely shown in the last minutes or even seconds: 1) Happy wife, happy life! 😁 ;-) 2) Kids havin' fun! 🙌🙌 Congrats again for having all those skills and especially for having such a great family. And, last but not least, for living in such a fantastic/wonderful environment. With 3 great properties to live on, you have created your own little world/paradise.
Thanks a lot for making teaching explaining recording editing uploading and sharing.
Best regards luck and health to all of you.
Is this your third house now? Right on Marty!
1st, the bank owns the town house and the 1bdrm forest cabin doesn't really qualify as a house😂
@@MartyT Congrats. very cool spot.
@@MartyT As a US citizen who lives on a decent chunk of acreage, who also watches your channel to learn different/new things(similar interests & conservative mindsets), I can tell you without reservation that forest cabin not being a home is bullshit!! You've put in to much work, planning, etc. for it not to be. That & I also remember your vid about going to town primarily for the kids/school. While I'm certain you enjoy all of those places(especially with THAT view at the beach house), I'm equally certain your heart probably lies easiest in the forest property!
It doesn't have to be huge, new, pretty, or whatever else - it only has to be where you truly feel home! And you've already shown that to your viewers.
Great Video, hope the family doing well & Happy Holidays to you all.
You should talk to Ecoflow and see if they can do a firmware update so that the system will auto dump to the hotwater tank when battery is full.
That's a good idea, it might be possible and would be much simpler than using a plc
Sounds like an opportunity for a CANbus accessory :)
@@MartyT I absolutely thought "they should implement that auto-dump Marty-functionality in their systems" the moment You mentioned the lack of it.
If you haven't already seen it, watch Matthias Wandels video on these systems and the potential issues with power tools. Not an issue for most but worth remembering.
You never cease to amaze me Marty,well done.👍👍
How are those slot cars staying on the track at that speed? They should be airborne at the end of the straights. I spent some time in hospital when I was 7, when I came out, there in my room was a 3M slot car track all made up. Many an hour was spent on it. In those days the controllers used a rheostat and after a while the smell of ozone filled the room.
Well deserved sponsorship, Marty is a class act!
Solar is improving so much and getting really consumer friendly. I'd love to do something in Minnesota, but it would take me 15 years to break even on a battery system, and a grid tied system is pretty much a non starter with our utility company up here. Thanks for the video!
Marty mate.......you are the smartest husband i have ever seen!
Distract n comfort her a bit with household improvements.............
N get the week later some heavy stuff for yourself.........
Smarty Marty!
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ha ha, slot cars will never get old and outdated.
Im 47 years old and i agree, those are still cool as heck. I really miss my little STOMPER trucks too.
You can searching for second life battery are in Spain they sale second life battery from electric car and they sale to battery's to made a power bank diy.
It's a lfp battery mate not li ion. Big chemistry difference mate extremely safe
Save yourself the trouble of fitting a water fire spray in the electrical cabinet..... If the Li caught fire, the water spray wouldn't do anything but make a bigger mess. Your plan to move the battery is better.
I think your the best calm, collected and down to earth teacher on youtube. The deduction reasoning approach to every project is second to none. Thank you and your family for sharing.
Hi Marty,
i am very interested in how you go on with the Analog PLC? Did you get this working? if so please could you share information/spec of the PLC you have used please.
Jon
All we need is for ecoflow to make a version of your washing machine hyro turbine and you're SET. Charge them a name licensing fee, of course. The RamBroEcoFloHydro
Damn ,you getting fancy....lol ...yeah nah yeah
Your hydro equipment be getting jealous of the care going into this build.
(Comment for TH-cam beancounters... at least I tried to make it funny)
Nice when people give you stuff worth over $7.5k USD, good work if you can get it.
If I had an off-grid bolt hole this set up, with some solar panels would be a serious consideration.
Ecoflow is the Apple of power. They use their own proprietary connectors, they are way more expensive than building your own system, and they bundle everything together so if one component fails you have to replace everything. The tradeoff is they make everything simple.
Thanks for the info and Happy Christmas to you and yours 👍🏻🏴
Mrs T's paintings are excellent and was shocked watching her time lapses. Thank her for that.
Thankyou, I appreciate that!
LiFePO is not Li-Ion in regards fire. You need to be doing something REALLY wrong to get LiFePO to do anything close to fire.
Haha I'm literalt trying to design a 5kw system for my ute, got brain ache so gave up open TH-cam and boom this video, hopefully this might help Me a bit
I bet i'm one of the few who knows what a 'Trawler', is Mart. LoL. Ie, 'batteries from a trawler," LoL. My older brother operated a couple of trawlers off Westport for years. Bob. MoT.
Iron phosphate cells are massively safer than cobalt oxide and others. They’re bombproof. We used to abuse the hell out of them in F1 KERS (>300C discharge rates) and they lasted superbly.
Looks a great setup. You can also run Iron phosphates to 100% with much reduced ageing worries so you don’t need to kick in the hot water dump as low as 80%.
To the fridge to beore efficient you can put a lot of Bootle with water to don't work all the time the compressor. I made that and put the fridge in 6/7 Celsius grade and 16 the freezer. That down the consumption of the fridge
Used to have a lot of batteries to charge. Roof of the charger box held up a whole lot of sand which would then cover the batteries when they’d burned through roof.
I like that idea thanks
Thanks for demonstrating the Eco Flow Inverter and distribution board (containing fused AC DC outputs for accessories and circuit breakers) with its various charging capabilities, examples such as;
* DC solar panels
* DC wind turbine
* Generator
* AC mains power supply
and power storage, In this example a Lithium ion battery.
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The problem with Marty is that he makes everything look so simple that you go get stuck in, and then stuck. 🤨🙃
I like your new setup. Interesting information about it. Thank you for sharing see you next time.
It is Lithium ion batteries that are the issue, if you check the specs on your battery ypuwill find it may not be that type , as thee are several different LITHIUM batteries.
Also I would
D s7ggest second battery in parallel
Lithium ion battery can burn furiously. However lithium iron phosphate battery are a lot safer than lithium ion.
In this case DC lighting is uber simple ; simply replace the ac bulbs in all lamps and fixtures with dc bulbs( they're only a few bux apiece) and then connect their power circuits to the mppt as the ac wiring,of that what is already ran will work just as well for DC power.. I used my houses modern upgraded AC wiring as my DC wiring without changing a thing other than bulbs,fans and appliances to DC type.. It's like overkill wiring for DC usage without the costs of rewiring the entire 2000 sq ft house ,and it's worked well the past 8+ years that way..
Disclamer: I'm not an electrician. However, what I've learned is that DC in this case runs typically with 12 or 24V while AC 120-240V depending where you live. With lower volts you have higher Amps to get the same power. So, if you have DC with low voltage but high amperage, you need thicker cables than with high voltage and lower amperage. If you use too thin cables for high amps, they will get hot and eventually burn down your house. The length of the cable also plays a role here. What I want to say: Be careful.
Man I’ve been watching your channel for years and I still love every second of your videos keep up the great work Marty
Congrats Marty T on building the container for ur off-grid power system.. looks cool.. happy holidays..
both the kids looked low-key horrified when you said 'my turn' - your daughter is a better actor though :P
Kids having fun in the beach-house with ecoflow-powered device plus future fish staying fresh instead of becoming a health risk within hours: priceless. Plus as a bonus, often underrated, the content Missus.
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Thanks for sharing and all the best for a healthy and happy 2023!
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A word to the advertising:
Good to see some of the corporate support usually going to the louder, flashy- or T&A-content creators finding its way to more credible channels actually worth that support. I hope emphasizing the improvement it undoubtedly actually was isn't the only thing You agreed upon - I recently saw another of the credible ones using free ecoflow equipment particularly stating that he was actually demanding payment by the ecoflow people for them using his half a million very tech-affine followers as a target group .... and how he agreed on using their stuff on camera first and foremost because it basically was a more professional, more mobile version of what he already had built on a shoestring from stuff off junkyards and gumboot-bargains himself shortly before - no emphasizing, none of the usual "advertising" seen so annoyingly often by "influencers", just a plain showing what the ecoflow stuff can do when used heavily in comparison to his own build. Which was impressive, to say the least.
Absolutely best advertising ecoflow could possibly have bought .... I am actually considering a compact mobile ecoflow system for RV-ing and yachting, I forwarded that other TH-camr's vid to more than one person being in need of serious power for machinery and creature comforts in off grid situations, (did forward Your washing-machine turbine series to various people too over the years, just saying) and now I am being even more drawn to ecoflow products/systems by Marty Angryram T. getting and using their stuff.
Mate, that gear looks the business!!!! Much sexier than your old off grid system
Hey, it's amazing how far lithium systems have come but as far as fire go with lithium it would take a Lakes amount of water to put out the fire on that battery you'd be surprised us Tesla cars I seen them put 80,000 gallons of water on them and they're still not even anywhere is near put out
Your a man of many skills . Total respect to you mate . Excellent channel . Keep going marty. . A pleasure to view . . Happy new year to all the family . . From GB . .
Lithium batteries can catch fire. LiFePo4 is a different composition. It is no more a concern than any other battery, they are regarded as extremely safe.
Much of what you talked about I have no concept of beingvelectrical but Oh how Is like to be able to do what you've done. Well done you are a genius.
As an electrician id says thats a good install, neat and easy to work in, the fire proof box is a good idea but make sure to add a fan on it to keep the batteries cool. And i dont think that breaker box fits AS/NZ standard of needing a tool to access live components such as removing an energised neutral wire. A lock on the door would suffice
Thanks for the info, The main doors have a heavy padlock
Realistically with the sort of storage capacity and charge rates the system has (limited) the cells aren't going to get warm themselves. The inverter will however when driving big loads, but as you only have 5kW of energy, even that ultimate heat release is limited
Probably the best sponsored video i've ever seen on youtube lol
You can buy some second life solar panel today a lot of people change they solar panel to more kWh anda sale used too
Haha, the kids reaction when the big kid says "My Turn"
Pure Gold!!!
Awesome! Thanks for sharing. Regards to all. Stay safe.
Nice one. Ever thought of a "Trompe" system for providing chilled air and more power? Not sure how much head you have there, but it looks like a fair bit. Getting the pipe is the problem though...
Interesting to see this Home kit in action. I wasn't sure if it was vapourware of not! I've got a few uses for something like that myself.
There’s a new man emerging out of Marty T tractor collector, mechanic, bower bird and family man. Marty T realestate magnate
i'd almost say not to call it lithium but lithium phosphate, it's so different from traditional lithium chemistry. i'm envious of that much Lifepo4!
EDIT: with the rise of LED and electronics i've always wondered why lower DC hasn't made come back in buildings like all those decades ago when electricity was new. seems more efficient that converting between AC and DC so many times.
EDIT EDIT: yeah lifepo4 is wild, it maintains fuller voltage much much much longer than lead acid!!!
Ecoflow stuff us amazing, its like they really thought what people really need off grid. And i really like that beach house. Happy New Year
Maybe an auto discharging powder extinguisher would be better than a water sprinkler. Will you put in a fail safe isolating switch to isolate the power while you’re absent from the property? It may pay to check your cover with your Insurer, and you may need to get a registered electrician to comply the installation. Good back up in case there’s a fire.
Nice video, cant wait to see the battery bunker. Hopefully all the roads a safe to pass again from the Epic rainfall…
It's about time that the off grid power company advertisers figured out that you were living with off grid power before TH-cam was created in 2005. They must be thrilled with the quality of your presentations of their products.
I'm not complaining.. Batteries are expensive and mine were getting tired, ecoflow saved me splashing out $4k on new ones ;)
Sorry hit the wrong button, a second battery will give you more redundancy, in case of bad weather, or heavy drain on power
@Marty, Where can I find out more about your Hot water PLC setup. I'm keen on a dump load for an unused HWS tank I have, but am considering a thermostat for for if the dumpload reaches big temps for the HWS. This is a problem in summer vs Winter though.
This is one I set up for a friend recently, dumping power from the inverter is easier to control than dc from the battery th-cam.com/video/v38alCnacg0/w-d-xo.html
Good man Marty. You have bought smiles to your wife.
@10:00 hardcore flashback. You should've posted some kind of warning 😁
Greetings from Canada. Nice to see some warm weather we had 96 hours of 60km winds and a air temp of -17C.
Here in Europe, I bought (EXTRON X3360) Fire Extinguishing Granules for Lithium batteries, in 5l bags. Better than water.
JFC......7k USD for whats basically a charge controller, 4k inverter, and a breaker box. No panels and a 5Kwh battery. I guess if you have zero clue on solar and have money to burn this is a good deal. Will Prowse would tear this apart and laugh at it.
That’s quite nice. To be clear, you should not worry about LFP batteries, now if it’s a NCM lithium battery, I would be really concerned, as those things are pretty dangerous.
Nice Vid Marty, always good to have enough for life lil luxuries like a Microwave, toaster and kettle!
I have 6.5kw grid feed and 2kw older panels and im about to expand this with grid as backup and 10kw of Gel batteries plus of course a new better suits Inverter so I can grid isolate if needed because my last from outages were 5 and 6 days respectively planning on 10kw solar and 15kw storage with diesel genset emergency backup.
As it sits I use a few bucks plus connection fee per day as my solar covers daylight feed so its nice to see a good overview of a new system.
Love your work :-)
A mate of mine lost his shed because of a Chinese lithium battery,got to be careful with them.
It depends on the chemistry of the battery. If it is Lithium Ion then fire risk is low. If it is LiFEPO4 or Lithium Iron Phosphate the risk is extremely low. Puncturing a cell can cause issues with Li ion but the most probable cause of fires in Li ion batteries is thermal runaway from excessive heat. Once that happens the only way to put it out is to cool it enough to stop the chemical reaction.
Looks like a nice tight system, easy for a non technical person to hookup
It's a bomb if damaged and gets wet..
I like the way you have thought about making a battery 'bunker'. Hope you had a good Christmas. When the wife can make toast and then vacuum up the crumbs, it make life better !
That's a great looking Inverter + batt management system.... Have a great holiday.
Good of Ecoflow to help out, it's surprising how much a simple thing like having off grid power, can give so much joy. From boiling a kettle to playing racing car game with the kids. Not sure though if the second thing was for you or the kids though. 🤗
That eco flow would be great for my little caravan .I live in a 14 foot van off grid with 3 solar panels and 3 car batteries. It’s not the best but living on a disability pension only I don’t have any spare money. This would be a perfect gift. If anyone would like to support me. Kindest regards Andy. Perth Australia
First time I've ever seen your wife on the video and actually get to see her... your a very lucky guy. She's gorgeous. And no I'm not trying to be some sicko. I'm being serious.hope everyone is doing very good. Much love from West Virginia 👍👍👍
Dammit Marty ... what CAN'T you do??!.
Suggestion - consult your local Fire Service people about using water, or not, to quell a Lithium battery fire - should one occur. All sorts of rumours abound, so facts from FENZ would help - a lot!
I hope your channel is doing well I enjoy it very much. I didn’t know much about New Zealand but watching your videos it looks beautiful and a place to visit someday.
Lithium is highly inflammatory
Fires are caused by to deep of discharge
Then when charged again dendrites are formed.
This is like an ICE pick thrust though the battery
The battery is simular to a jelly roll
So the dendrits poke though all the layers shorting them out
Recommend moving the low voltage cut off higher then normal. When gone .
That way draining the battery will stop before damage is done
Awesome work as always, one of the channels I’ve got notifs on for cheers Marty
i love this channel...... especially with this offgrid pimp my ride porn business... marty ur certainly doing it for me buddy......and now wifey is happy so happy wife is a happy life... keep the spanking going on....hahahahaha
LiFePO4 is safer than other lithium types
If using LiFe batteries they are inherently safe from fire compared to LiPo which are the ones making the headlines. No need for a bunker - check Will Prowses latest video on the subject
Good job mate the wife and kids are definitely happy, happy wife happy life 😊 and good job on finishing it of with that concrete batter fire bunker we in the Rc hobby use ammo cans with the seal removed or money lock bockes to charge our lipos a few of my friends have had them go up there was a guy that burn half his house out with a lipo fire luckily it was just cosmetic but still better to be safe than sorry wonder if ur could rig up a foam or co2 fire extinguisher to a sprinkler head so when there is a fire the head activates using the foam or co2 🤔 have similar styles on race engines and other machines
protect your wire from mice and get some flexi pvc and slice it down and wrap the exposed wires?
The cabinet is rodent proof
I’m worried about Mrs T. She wants to vacuum for more than 20 minutes? You can vacuum New Zealand in 20 minutes. And most of Australia.
Very impressed with the Eco Flow system. I can see some serious applications for our property on Fraser Island. Thanks for the great informative video. Will be making inquiries. Have a great new year and keep the videos coming.
Far out Marty, is there anything you can’t do 😂
Awesome video is always mate 🙂
The Lithium Phosphate batteries appear to be safe so far, it is the Lithium nickel cobalt batteries that are catching on fire. These are used in most EVs until recently because they are more energy dense, including Tesla, Hyundai etc.
correct he dont need to build a fire box for them , he just needs to keep them at 24c , he may need heat mats in NZ winter but to achieve this or damage them if the controller allows low temp cell charging
The ecoflow has a built in heater and is rated by the manufacturer for use down to -20 Celsius
How cold does it get there during winter?
Lithium IRON phosphate. STOP HANDING OUT BAD ADVICE!!!! IRON PHOSPHATE BATTERIES CAN WILL AND DO BURN DOWN!!! The EV nerds who do not know JACK SHIT are fucking dangerous as hell. ALL Lithium Batteries ARE Lithium Phosphate. Its the middle element that determines what kind of reaction you get. Lithium cobalt PHOSPHATE. lithium iron PHOSPHATE. You dumb fucks need to SHUSH.
Indeed, LiFePo4 batteries are generally safe and well suited for these applications. Li-Ion and Li-Po batteries are more energy dense and less stable than LiFePo4, but can deliver more amperage for more power.
I will never understand people who put massive lithium batteries in their ceiling to store solar energy, stuff like this need to be placed in its own shed that can withstand up to 3000 degrees of heat these monsters output, not only do they burn for days on end, they emit extremely toxic gas that can kill within minutes in an enclosed space.
A 5kW battery like that can easily melt bricks and putting it under the house is probably a bad idea, I suggest moving it away from the house by a few metres at least or put a massive shielding on top of it as 3000 degrees of heat, the battery could catch fire, burn for days when you are not there and the heat alone can cause house to catch fire.
Wow can’t wait to be out there without worrying about charging phones -washing etc and boiling the jug yee hah what a great system and a great demonstration
Marty of how to set it up and promote Ecoglows fantastic uses
Just would’ve loved some shots of the garden though