OP Here! I never expected my post to actually be made into a video. This is awesome as hell. This story happened months ago and unfortunately this was where our campaign ended. It was a mutual decision between the remaining players and the GM. Dont worry though. Me and the GM have remained good friends and I am actually playing with him in two other campaigns, one with him as GM and the other with him as a player. Hes a good bloke. If anybody has any questions you can leave a reply and I'd be happy to answer any Ps. I'm not sure how you guys knew what my fighter looked like. He is a black guy with dreads tied behind his head. I'm a little freaked out but also really happy about it lol.
hay an undead army of dwarves fighting an army of orcs sounded pretty baller im actually planning of making an undead army in a campaign set in a modern fantasy world and based on XCOM, the faction my characters are from are based on WW1 Germans, Death Korps of Krieg and other depictions of German-like factions, the faction could of actually been the BBEG if there was not already some other faction taking over the world (lots of Lawful Evil races in the Krieg Empire and all the officers of the army are necromancers)
Hey mate, just to let you know, I don't think you did anything wrong. That Guy was being a dick to y'all from day 1, you warned his character that if that behavior were to continue, there would be consequences, and I'm sure that if it was you on his place, he would have laughed his ass off. If this was a reddit post, I would say that you are not the asshole.
Never deal with That Guy, chase them out of the campaign or refuse to play. I deal with That Guy much the same way I deal with everyone.. I show no remorse when I handle the situation properly.
I'm happy that he got repercussions for his actions, however I think the GM should have tried to step in to stop player on player fighting, as its break the groups cohesion in most cases. I think after the second chromatic orb I think you should have stopped to see if this was character anger or player anger and see if you could remedy the situation then and there.
agreed, it happened to me once, 2 ladies best friends to each other ended their friendship because one idiotic man suggested that one of them can kill the other pc and so she did, as long as I know they don't talk to each other anymore and we didn´t have issues with that campaign apart from that
TTRPGs can attract people of all types. “That guy” In my experience usually struggles with social skills and dealing with others. When he starts throwing a fit its better to let him walk away and hopefully blow off steam. But as often they just find another group and complain about you endlessly.
I remembered this joke that changed the fate of my party forever. The Party set up democratic elections because of an incident where the original authoritarian leader made a big mistake. One PC has a pet Mimic named Chomp and as a joke, I, the DM, made Chomp run for leader. He ended up winning the election and multiple reelections.
I think the wizard is wrong on 2 fronts. 1) If the joke had worn thin, he should've expressed that with his words. Yeah, some people can't take a joke as well as others, and there's nothing wrong with that. But if you're not willing to speak up for yourself, that's on you. 2) You do NOT attack teammates without discussing the course of action OOC first. You just don't.
3) You especially don't MIND CONTROL your teammates. The reason we play this game is to do stuff, whatever that stuff is. Mind controlling another PC is using the game's mechanics to tell another player "you don't get to do your thing, we're doing this my way, and you don't get a say in it"
@@TomWilliams69 remember to not get too trigger happy bout the thing. Your joke was just that, a ingame joke, so there is no reason for the wizard to go balistic over it. Hes in wrong. And if all of that story is true, he deserves that. But remember to never drop a joke too hard on somebody - not all people can take one like me or you, and things may get ugly. You know, sometimes its better to be safe than sorry.
I struggle to imagine a scenario where I can imagine siding with the That Guy. If he'd blown up and said something like "Guys, seriously, stop." That would have been something else. But he immediately decided to try and go for attacking another player character. He's just automatically in the wrong there, and anything that happens past that point is his own fault.
Not to mention he has a history of using control / combat spells against his own party members. Honestly after the "technically" third unsolicited "attack" against a Player we'd have booted him.
So in my personal opinion this was a situation where a joke went a bit too far. Nobody is fully at fault here though. “That Guy” should have expressed that the jokes were hurting his feelings and ruining his fun as opposed to getting upset, and the party should have realized that what they thought were jokes were being taken the wrong way. All in all what we have here is a failure to communicate
Nah. See the first time a spell was casted on the fighter and it wasn’t to cool him down from a murder spree or attacking an innocent the wizard was in the wrong. The wizard was then warned if you casted a spell at me again there would be consequences. Yes the group could’ve noticed that the wizard wasn’t laughing and having fun at this point in time. But planning to kill or harm another PC is an offense that’s worse than being laughed at. Also you’re PC doesn’t need to have sex in a fictional world. Like I’ve had my character laughed at in game; and in real life. I came out laughing and a bit embarrassed. That was it. There’s no reason for the extra that happened
@@silentmeklar1783 I agree, there was no reason to make threats at his PC or anything. However on an out-of-game level the players should have realized that what they thought were jokes weren’t coming off that way to the other player Again I don’t think he handled it well and I’m not defending him, but he isn’t 100% to blame for what happened, even if he was kinda being a jerk all game
@@apophis456 def I’m not saying he’s to blame 100% however you have to understand they weren’t actually all together. So there’s also that. I’m just saying that guy holds a majority of the blame.
Gonna have to say, as both a Player and a GM, it's not difficult to just set an aside with the GM and state it flat out. "Look, this is getting into bullshitty territory. Lay off, or I'm out." and mean it. It's also not so hard for the GM to even ret-con the joke part of the Priestess refusing treatment. She may represent a beneficent deity of light and all, but she's also a woman. In a Game-world with sexual mechanics ongoing (however trivial), she's been there and dealt with that before. She'd perhaps scold or lecture the guy, but refusing treatment when and where she's among a very short list of people who can even give treatment is outright CAUSING harm. It's not a tough argument... AND let's be realistic, here. Doctors took an oath to do no harm, and in a world setting with magic and all, so would healers, pretty nearly regardless of their origins or mechanical means. It's not so difficult for a GM to step in and quell the giggle-fest, or pause the game so everyone can calm down, and then state the points of fact, that further picking on one Player is getting out of hand. They've done enough... BUT we heard of none of the original point. That's probably because "That Guy" was acting like an ass the entire Game. It's a relatively simple principle at work here, and it's a standard HUMAN group dynamic. "If you don't want to get treated like shit, don't act like a turd." ;o)
I don’t think the op was in the wrong. They even made attempts to make things right and move on with the story. The guy might be overly sensitive but I don’t know if that because he thinks he’s supposed to be a main character like in a book or not. From what I can tell it sounds like it but I’ve never met him so who am I to judge.
Hi I just wanted to say that I am brand new to d&d and going to have my first session in a week. I will be playing as a traveling halfling bard who get’s the most joy from making people happy. I like the idea of him picking up stories on his travels so I will take a lot of inspiration from this channel. There are a lot of great stories and there are a lot of ways to get them into my session. I like to thank you for sharing these stories and hopefully I have a great one of my own soon enough.
Guy who swings metal things vs guy who can alter the very reality around him... yeah, sounds like he covered his ass pretty well without outright killing a hostile PC.
That Guy did take things too personally, but OP's group did take the joke a little too far. I wouldn't play with either OP's group or That Guy due to those reasons.
I agree but I also have to say I feel like if That Guy said least once "hey can we lighten up, these jokes are ruining my fun" than things would have went differently. But I do think I wouldn't want to be in a game with either of these guys
@@jacobc8036 I suspect That Guy didnt have the social skills and/or self control to make that request. I also suspect that, whether consciously or intuitively, the rest of the group knew that. I feel like TG was wrong by nature, but the rest if the group was wrong by choice.
both. everyone gets equal shares of the blame. from edgelord to the others, but theres no reason for the campaign to end, its just the loss of one player and a lesson learned.
I am surprised that the OP showed restraint after the gnome attacked him, not once but twice. I think the gnome would have probably fared worse with other groups for such actions considering that a verbal insult does not warrant a lethal response among what is supposed to be a party. I think the gnome's player severely overreacted in a immature way. Also, keep in mind that it is the DM who gave the gnome the STD, not the OP.
I Think BOTH Parties Are At Fault. Yes,"That Guy" Was Clearly A Glory Hog That Needed To Learn That D&D Is A Team Game...But The Rest Of The Party Basically Just Started Making Fun Of Him,Without Bothering To Check To See If He Was In On The Joke. Both Sides Showed A Pretty Bad Lack Of Maturity In Their Game And Should Have Talked Things Out Like Adult Rather Then Decide To Attack Each Other (Even If It Was What They Thought Was In Good Fun). If You Don't Know Everyone In Your Group Well Enough,Don't Joke At Their Expense Because You Never Know How If They'll Find It Funny Or Not. All Of Them Were Just Kind Of Dicks Without Intending To Be Dicks And It Killed The Game.
Seems to me, that guy didn't have the experience that he claimed. Experienced players don't disrespect other players when they aren't present, especially if they didn't make any mistakes. Experienced players have also lost beloved characters and have learned to not get too attached to said characters. That guy really didn't have a sense of humor either.
Oh trust me, I've known people who have played for a very long time who act like that. How you treat other people has very little to do with how long you've been playing TTRPGs. Some people get table etiquette quickly. Others never learn it, no matter how many times they might get called out on it.
Dude, I see you pop up in a variety of different channels that I like. I know this because I am often on the look out for "no step on snek" guy. You have good taste by the way.
Also when someone tries to leave to keep the game moving, don’t follow them. That was where the OP crossed the line. He stopped the game to keep this joke up
While I agree That Guy was a bit of a douche and a glory hog, I do think the rest of the party are partially at fault for that last session for keeping the STD joke going. By the time gnome went to the priestess, the DM should have reigned in the other players since apparently they were still laughing about it for 5 straight minutes.
Well, in a way we can see how it'd be funny for that long. Seeing as how it's canon in that story, that the "That Guy" used suggestion to mind control any NPC he ran across (And apparently failed all rolls to get in a woman's pants prior to that"). So seeing him "succeed" his use of Suggestion to get H, and get the clap after it. Would be both fitting and hilarious to see for a character whom up to that point acted like consequences were for other people.
“We helped a chaotic good necromancer. It sounds weird but the GM played it off well.” I fail to see what’s weird. That just sounds like a DnD session.
Right!? One's Class doesn't affect one's alignment. One can be any mix of those they want, as long as they're well written. Although no lie, I'd love to see a Chaotic Good Necromancer, it'd be pretty fun to see.
I've had similar experiences tbh, there's always someone who gets pissy and can't take a joke or someone who takes a joke too far. People suck and unfortunately finding the right group of complete strangers to play with is always difficult, that's why I always advocate for bringing in new players from your actual friend group. In my experience most people who never thought about playing tend to enjoy it once it gets to the comradery and meaningful RP, plus friends always screw with eachother so a joke too far is never really a bad thing since you already know they didn't mean it as an actual offence
It sounds like "That Guy" just wanted to get in on a group of newbies and assert his dominance over the others, and when something bad finally happened to his character he got super pissy about it. "That Guy" was already being a bully to the group way before the joke happened, so he didn't really have any grounds to stand on.
I'm back once again! And I have to say that after listening to this one. OP did take things a bit further than he should have. But "that guy" was also at fault for not communicating that he was taking it personally. Also "that guy" shouldn't have attacked OP like that. Plus he was warned that there would be consequences for attacking op with spells. So he can't really get angry when he's paying for his actions.
I don't see any reason why the campaign can't continue. Seems like the party's in a good place to replace that guy. They shouldn't have any trouble finding another player and writing them in as somebody they picked up in the market are at the in. Hell, if I could, I would be glad to be his replacement.
You know, I find myself in that guy's shoes recently. My DM tried to pull a funny with my character when my character thought it would be good to adopt an orphan (long story). The DM had the matron of the orphanage lead me to a room full of kids (without warning me), all of them were confirmed to have ADHD. The kids manage to take my character down in a dog pile but my character managed to get free. I then said aloud, "I'm getting the heck out of there.". Which somehow translated for the DM to "I forgot to close the door." When he tried to explain this to me and I told him my character wouldn't have forgotten to closed the door because he wanted a barrier between him and the kids. He then told me to roll intelligence. With a meager +2, I got a 6 in total. He then said that my character did forget. It should be noted that we have done general intelligence checks before and I'm normally fine doing this but the DM seemed to really want this scenario to happen and for no reason other then to poke fun at my character. In truth, I wouldn't have felt nearly as mad if it weren't for the fact that I lost my most power weapon (a magic dagger that hit like a great sword) by handing it over to a shop keeper. The second it was in the guy's hand, it melts because he was examine another dagger that apparently was supposed to be it's opposite. There were some other factors involved but they are small and I could be here all day listing them. Now, my DM has had us to some really fun encounters and I have enjoyed the year long campaign we have been on and I look forward to what we will be doing next. However, in the relative short time I have been a player I have learned something that all DMs should take to heart (the same goes for players too). Don't poke fun at the players that's demeaning to them and takes away from them having fun in game. With that being said, if this does happen to a player, don't do what "That guy" did in this video by getting mad and try to attack another PC. If it bothers you that much, act like an adult and talk it out with the DM and/or Player(s). Let them know how you are feeling and that you want to have fun with the rest of the party. If it so happens they have grievances of their own with you, hear them out. Don't let friendships/ acquaintanceships get ruined just because you have one or even several bad sessions. If they persists and it's still not fun, then leave and find a different group to play with.
Eh. A little fun poking is fine, it keeps the games light hearted and adds a bit of perspective. That being said, seems like your DM was more or less targeting you specifically in these instances. I feel as if losing a special weapon like that to what sounds like random chance is actually absurd. You lose weapons like that due to battles, theft, or horrible luck in some other fashion, not because a random store owner has its polar opposite in his breast pocket.
One of my groups running jokes is danishes my character was killed and when he was revived to get back to the party he brought them danishes as a sorry for being controlled by a vampire. Now as a running joke one of us brings danishes to our d&d games. I got to the point where we no longer have our d&d anymore but we still bring danishes to any events that all of us are able to get together. It's all how you roll with the punches
I'm going to have to side with the OP here. That Guy was warned to stop his behavior and he chose not to listen and kept mocking the group when bad things happen to them, now he knows what it's like to be on that end.
you hit him where it hurt, likely not knowing it was a sensitive spot. then you did try to make peace. that's all you can do. if an apology or restitution is offered, then your duty is discharged and you can do no more. heck him.
I like how this channel has become a confession board! that guy had plenty of chances to be cool, maybe the party could be more vocal about exactly what that guy is doing directly to him that sucks
To my understanding the fight broke out while the teller’s character was drunk. If it were me, I’d personally talk to “that guy” try to explain I didn’t know he was taking it personally, and then have my character apologize after he sobered up. But I can understand why these people acted the way they did in the moment.
If we're being fair, That Guy cast Suggestion on another player's character just to get his way. He later did another creepy That Guy thing with the stereotypical "I have all the sex with everyone I can". Ensuring he suffers the consequences of his own actions is not a bad thing. Against someone who was obnoxiously undermining everyone else throughout the campaign, I don't believe OP did anything wrong.
We had a campaign where a guy tried talking my Tiefling Cleric into fleeing our dungeon and abandon our party while we were in the middle of fight that was meant to be hard for the entire party and things weren't going well. My guy was particularly close with our Dragonborn Paladin and would never have abandoned them. They fled on their own, and we barely managed to come out with our lives, with me being completely out of spells helped carry our unconscious Pally out. After getting out, our ranger managed to knock out our cowardly Sorcerer and took all of his gear. He later escaped and fled. the GM had a talk with him after the game, and he was told by the sorcerer that it was in his bg that he was like that, so the gm let him make another char. that later joined us. In like our 2nd fight with him in the party he spent the entire time trying to steal some booze from some giants instead of helping with the fight. If not for a cleaver plan from our rogue that lured one of the giants into chasing them it would have been a tpk for the rest of us. Everyone was so Pissed. The gm had another talk with them and they said that "our game play wasn't the kind of game they wanted to be in" I guess he just wanted to be completely individual and not help a party. We all enjoyed the game much more once we knew we could all depend on each other.
A similar thing happened to me in a group of my friends I had been playing with for a few months and it started when my character had misunderstood the situation and one of the players made a joke "why did you do that? This is why you're dad left" which he knew was a touchy subject as my parents are divorced. Suffice it to say I left that group permanently and I haven't spoken to any of them sense
We had a guy invite himself to join our group. We normally played as a group of six but were two shy from PCS (military jargon for transfer) and welcomed the chance to have one of the PCs played by the new guy instead of one of the old group doing double duty. Nope. New guy wasn't interested. In fact, he continually insisted that the way his previous DMs had done things was the right way and the only way. We asked New Guy to roll two characters, JIC one of his was killed quickly. He rolled a straight fighter and a clone of MY PC. He claimed he had played an identical PC but failed to offer ANY proof whatsoever. One other thing: he had recently read as was obsessed with the Videssos Cycle. He could not comprehend how weapons that were devastating when wielded by the Legion were a joke in the hands of just one PC. The DM graciously allowed New Guy his non-standard weapons. Pretty much as everyone predicted, his fighter was killed in the first melee. He gleefully announced that his OTHER PC would turn the clock back, something MY PC could actually do as an ability. He was NOT happy to discover that he wouldn't get that ability until he reached at least 5th level. He also discovered the futility of a newbie begging for help from a superior when his PC hadn't bothered to ask my permission to join the campaign. The discussion took longer than I had the ability to turn back the clock, the fighter was well and truly KIA, and New Guy quit the group in a huff.
“That guy” was in the wrong. DND a the end of the day is about the social interactions and the friendships u make with other people, it’s supposed to bring people together in a good and fun way, I’m 17 and I been playing dnd for 7 years now am I can honestly say that I got my fair share of, in good taste, insults but in the end it’s all about the memories from the jokes u make and the interactions that take place.
I don't see an innocent party here, but I do see varying degrees of guilt. I'd say the joke was taken a bit too far, but That Guy's reaction was definitely OTT. He could have just mentioned OOC that he felt it was going too far.
When they said it was a game ending joke I was thinking of people who literally will actually refuse to let a real story play out or someone get something started or break world emersion due to some on running joke. I'm met people you literally just can't RP with because they are like that. And think the height of comedy is to just keep going because eventually the commitment to the bit will make people love it instead of being annoyed.
Chalk it up to a learning experience and that not everyone is compatible in playing the game. You have made your efforts to reconcile and should just move on provided everyone else remaining is also of a like mind.
There was a Campaign where we ended our last session going drunk in a bar and my character wakes up in the next session on the floor of the bar. I decided to be cautious and decided to check my character's person. My DM did a quite bullshit "Shrodinger's Cat" Instance and when I barely SUCCEEDED my investigation check, my character was completely naked. I lost all of my belongings and armor except for my weapons (fortunately and oddly). Not only I hated the fact my character is humiliated this way (I admit I slightly took it personally) but also it slowed down our quest since Key NPCs cannot take a Party with a completely naked man seriously. I mean, sure, after one fight with a beholder I got a Boon that says I get bonus AC the more naked I am (I am a Battle Master Fighter with Two-Weapon Fighting and not a Barbarian, BTW) but that last session almost soured my first D&D experience, even if I was really a good sport. Hurts even more that that Campaign never saw the end because of someone else in my party. My DM even said I would have had the best ending since I can turn into a Neutral naked Angel with Level 25 power. For "That Guy" in this story, if he is playing the Campaign like a game instead of another life, then he is no Player worth keeping.
I think a lot of it was just different expectations between the players on how they wanted the game to go. I could definitely be wrong but that’s my thoughts on this
OP here. We rolled for stats and That guy had 20 intelligence. At level 1 his spells save DC was 15. It rarely failed and whenever it did he immediately cast it again before anybody else would say anything
It sounds to me like That Guy (I hope he doesn't mind me just calling him That) was taking it too personally, but also not enough communication or boundaries were made from the start by everyone. It doesn't help that That was being such a diva from the beginning; I kinda feel like his character deserved that STD at the end, joke or not.
I think at first it would be a funny joke, but it just went too far. Once the guy stopped laughing they should have stopped as well. If the victim isn't laughing, it isn't a joke anymore
I gave DMed my twin brother and another friend on many occasions and most of the time he flips out because our friend is doing something like stealing his body or killing his fifth character, but he always does stuff back to him, so what I think is that the dude should have just laughed at himself for the joke and simply gotten you back later with another joke, all in good fun
I went through something similar at one point. Though I am fairly certain that I was the problematic member of the party,. At any rate, I thought I was making a clever joke, but wound up offending people. But everything is a learning experience, and I won't be doing something like that again.
Player vs player is generally a big no at most tables I've ever played with, so That Guy would have been in the wrong from the moment he tried to cast suggestion on another player. Even if the joke went too far, trying to attack your fighter without making it clear he was upset and no longer having fun wasn't the right way to handle it. Fortunately, it sounds like your group had reached a natural ending point anyway.
Honestly it's no different than when a dragonborn monk kept picking up and gnome bard the bird told him that the next time he does it he would stab the dragonborn in the eye dragonborn did it again a few sessions later and The gnome ended up with an eyeball on the end of his rapier.
Eventually you start to pull pranks on each other or laugh at the expense of another. You can choose to embrace the joke and keep the laughter going though. Our dwarf grabbed a bugbear named balsag by the codpiece and used shocking grasp. We were roaring with laughter and that blue dwarf flushed purple. The next session he did it again with balsags brother! We were basically playing innuendo bingo and it was the funniest shit. He's the blue baller and we love him for it. At another point they had a picnic and left me alone to kick some skeleton ass. If things go right when we face a white dragon very soon I'll toss our paladin a potion, not tell him what it is, and suddenly he's 12ft tall. I'm hoping to make two of them if I can find enough ingredients. I got enough blood for two at a time at least. Though I'm sure our rogue will be confused as to why I cut my hand open with his dagger.
I once had a character get gender-bent as part of a joke gone too far. What happened was my character was joking around with another character about how we both wanted to be the High Priest of Olidammara, the god of tricks and pranks, because both of our characters were pranksters at heart. However, his character had already been named the High Priest due to him breaking his paladin oath with his previous god and pledging it to Olidammara. So, my wizard jokingly decided that he could be the High Priestess, and used Alter Self to change his appearance from a punky-looking mid-20's male wizard to a 20's female blonde bombshell wizard. And OIidammara decided that was good enough for him and made the change permanent. At first I was kinda miffed, but the dice had rolled that way so I just went with it and spent the last 4-5 sessions of the campaign playing a female who'd been a male all her life. At one point she exclaimed "It's hard to cast these friggin' spells sometimes with these tits in the way!" Later on in another campaign with the same group I was playing a female cleric. We were in this dungeon and came upon this room with a well. We were trying to figure out what to do next and my cleric went "I'll swim down the well and see if there's a passage at the bottom". Do the thing, roll a CON save, fail it and end up drinking some of the water. Roll a d4 to determine the effect, comes up a 4. DM starts laughing hysterically and goes "It's always you!" Female cleric went in, male cleric came out. :| Went back to town after that dungeon and sought out one of the high mages to fix this little problem. The mage wasn't super familiar with the party, and didn't understand what the problem was. She looked at him and went "I want *this* (gesturing to her crotch) gone, and I want *these* (gesturing to her chest) back!" The party had a good laugh at that.
I mean. That guy was a bit of a glory hog. But the other still purposefully kept that joke going way to long. Guy pretty much was picked on in that last session. Some players have faults, not all intentional. Communication is key for that reason. No one wants a character they put time and effort into becoming the butt of a joke forever.
@@silentmeklar1783 Doesnt matter if it was 1 session or half an hour. No one wants to be the butt of a joke over and over. He even talked about following him and telling others about his problem. It was insensitive no matter now you spin it as the offending player. Both players failed and acted inappropriately.
So several things here, actions have consequences. And in this cas, TG was kind of a prick from the start it sounds like. And a glory hog. OP really didnt take it too far, as logically that would make sense (in terms of std). And the fact that he also told TG to never cast a spell against him again or there would be consequences. Honestly, TG is lucky his wizard wasnt turned to paste by OP fighter.
It sounds like the player had issues separating himself from his character, combined with a bit of narcissism. Making fun of his character was not going to end well.
@@DarkKnightKaraco he followed him in game time. Which is the next morning. So 2 minutes in real time. This was probably 15 minutes of laughter. He needed to get over himself. That’s one. If you can’t take a second to separate yourself from your character and have a laugh, you need to reevaluate some stuff. I’m not saying OP was in the right. However it certainly isn’t his fault that things got as bad as it did. Your PC casts a spell on me the first time, and it wasn’t justified I’m probably going to swing with the intention of knocking you out. If this was a running joke that lasted multiple sessions. Then yeah that guy had a reason to be pissed enough to attack another PC.
Well speaking from recent experience when playing with "new people". There needs to be an understanding or communication. As the rule of thumb is to Assume makes an "A** out of you and me" so it you are going to banter or sh*t talk people you will want to build up a rapport with them outside the game. For example I had one person in one of the campaigns I am in joking that my character who is a rouge/monk was going to die. I had asked him to stop on numerous occasions but he continued. Then one session I had snapped and went off on it as people did not realize that it was getting to me though granted I should have said something sooner. (also they are not native English speakers and I am). Apparently I find out he is just sh*t talking but he would not stop when asked and would continue. Best thing to do is if you are going to do things that can be taken wrong is to try to build up a rapport with your fellow players outside the game to get a feel for boundaries as everyone has different tolerances and expectations. While you can not always meet those expectations you can at least respect what you can. no one can please everyone. xD
I think a situation like that should've quickly been resolved by a apology from the offender. Remember a session should be fun for everyone, dm and players. In a new group it always takes a few session to find the right chemistry. However from your story he seemed like a besserwisser (someone that always claims to know better for the sake of acting superiour)
This story explains how lawful good can easily fall to lawful Evil easily without knowing it. You thought you were doing good by keeping the joke going but not realizing you harmed people in the end. It doesn’t matter if it was intended that way or not as that is what happened; talk to the guy. That’s the only thing that can help now.
this was maybe this is too much time spent in the army, but if i had a character like the gnome i would have been dying laughing in that moment. i put the blame on that guy
So I started playing DND about 2-3 months ago. I started playing with friends of mine online and we're slowly getting into doing better rp. We all joke around for good fun. We haven't gotten to the point where anyone has gotten offended in anyway so I can't say from experience on that end but I personally believe "That Guy" was in the wrong. The reason for that is because he could have said something about how it's offensive or it feels like he's being picked on. He did according to the story. So while I don't blame him for leaving, he could have said something to the group or asked them to stop.
One contributing issue is that That Guy's glory stealing behavior was not called out right away by other players. They have as much right to express their boundaries as does That Guy. But even more, it's a standard of, well, parenting, that you let a child know right away when they've done something wrong. If one waits til long after -- after the child has forgotten, or, lacking any information to the contrary, believes what they did was ok -- then the child will feel unfairly reprimanded. Adults are not so different... The DM might try to work in a quiet warning...or, after each session, hold an after-action review -- what worked? what needs fixing? what caused problems? A caution though -- doing an after-action review is likewise something that needs to be started with the first session, else, as with delayed reprimand, it will seem like unfair targeting. It won't work unless there is buy-in from the players. Maybe pitch it as, how can we make this more fun for next time? Note the after-action review idea is borrowed from many other fields (e.g. agile software development, kaizen) so one does not need to invent it from scratch. Note also that glory stealing is absolutely endemic in business and (in particular) the tech industry. It's a major cause of team dysfunction and unhappy workers. If players are having this done to them in real life, they'll be all that much more sensitive to it during a game. After all, part of why they're playing is likely to get away from the frustrations at work...
On the one hand, telling a joke over and over is beating the horse dead. On the other hand, That Guy could've said it was getting to him. Even though he's That Guy, and since I don't personally know him, I think it was a lack of communication that sealed their fate.
I mean... I understand where both sides are coming from, but "that guy" kinda brought it on himself. Sure, the joking kinda went a bit far, but he also just set himself up to get pissed and rage quit from prior decisions. The dice just made it go a lil over the edge. Gotta love and praise the RNGods.
It was definitely the that guys fault the only fault I can lay at OPs feet is he failed to see that guy was upset witch I don’t see has a big enough fuck up to make op the bad guy in this situation.
I do medieval reenactment. Don't start anything you can't finish. Don't fling insults if you can't take them. This is all on that guy. Some people need to learn the hard way that they aren't the center of the universe.
I think everyone is to blame, he could've spoken up but he was a sorta bum throughout the campaign but everyone else could've stepped in at any time to get back on track but hey you were having fun, that's the game isn't it? Its quite sad to see a group break up in any way. Maybe someone else could reach out to him like the sick DM (seriously dude, kudos to you!!) can reach out and let him know there will be another game at {said time} and if he would like he is welcome to play! But if he doesn't try to keep the door open and just have his character fade out until he feels like playing!
100,000% Gnome Wizard is wrong. If everyone else is new, then he needed to have patience. If he is experienced, he shouldn't get so upset. Anyone who was handling things in such a manner for as long as he was clearly has issues. Tell DM to make gnome wizard bbeg, he storms off to join surviving orc raiders, recruits and builds army of the vestiges of who the party defeats, then cries and complains in final monologue. Keep the character annoying, and have fun thwarting him :D
I've seen stories like this so may times. Some arrogant person is all "I'm an experienced veteran player and DM!" "Well, time to demean everyone and make myself the star!" Yeah, maybe I'm a jerk for thinking this, but I'm glad that guy got knocked down a peg.
I’m going to say the party was at fault. They clearly didn’t make sure that the guy was in on the joke, proceeded to make the priestess not heal him, AND PVP (stealing from party member) even in the nature of preventing him from going crazy.
That guy sound like a guy we had in my lmop game on roll20. Dude rage quit over bad rolls during a boss fight. I wonder was it the same guy. He came in say the same stuff.
When it comes to looking for a group online. NEVER have one member be the odd one out. You can prevent many of these stories by just getting like minded players even if it takes a little longer
I would say its a fault of both of them. That guy is a bit of a dick but we don't really know if that is warped at all in perspective. I would say following a character just to make fun of them when they are just getting something resolved is also a dick move. Probably for the best of the party that they split away form that player if that is the attitude they want to take and he dislikes it. Some parties like to laugh at some peoples misfortune and others dont. Its really just about the group dynamics.
To OP, all I can say is you did nothing wrong. The campaign can easily continue without That Guy. Keep having fun with the GM and other players, as That Guy was just a general overall ass that you are better off without.
Honestly I can’t really think of any situation that an in game joke would make me that upset even if it was at my expense. Cracking jokes is part of the game and your character isn’t immune to getting roasted. If it was the same joke over and over for like multiple sessions I might get it, but you gotta know how to laugh at yourself
That guy definitely wouldn't last 2 sessions at my table, me and my friends rip on each other HARD. Only rule to play at my table "don't dish it if you cant take it" other than that go hard and have fun.
OP Here!
I never expected my post to actually be made into a video. This is awesome as hell. This story happened months ago and unfortunately this was where our campaign ended. It was a mutual decision between the remaining players and the GM.
Dont worry though. Me and the GM have remained good friends and I am actually playing with him in two other campaigns, one with him as GM and the other with him as a player. Hes a good bloke.
If anybody has any questions you can leave a reply and I'd be happy to answer any
Ps. I'm not sure how you guys knew what my fighter looked like. He is a black guy with dreads tied behind his head. I'm a little freaked out but also really happy about it lol.
hay an undead army of dwarves fighting an army of orcs sounded pretty baller
im actually planning of making an undead army in a campaign set in a modern fantasy world and based on XCOM, the faction my characters are from are based on WW1 Germans, Death Korps of Krieg and other depictions of German-like factions, the faction could of actually been the BBEG if there was not already some other faction taking over the world (lots of Lawful Evil races in the Krieg Empire and all the officers of the army are necromancers)
Hey mate, just to let you know, I don't think you did anything wrong. That Guy was being a dick to y'all from day 1, you warned his character that if that behavior were to continue, there would be consequences, and I'm sure that if it was you on his place, he would have laughed his ass off. If this was a reddit post, I would say that you are not the asshole.
Never deal with That Guy, chase them out of the campaign or refuse to play. I deal with That Guy much the same way I deal with everyone.. I show no remorse when I handle the situation properly.
You did the right thing to the end oversensitive people need to grow skin
I'm happy that he got repercussions for his actions, however I think the GM should have tried to step in to stop player on player fighting, as its break the groups cohesion in most cases. I think after the second chromatic orb I think you should have stopped to see if this was character anger or player anger and see if you could remedy the situation then and there.
This isn’t a campaign breaking thing. Worst case scenario, this isn’t resolved & you’re down one player. Happens to the best of us.
agreed, it happened to me once, 2 ladies best friends to each other ended their friendship because one idiotic man suggested that one of them can kill the other pc and so she did, as long as I know they don't talk to each other anymore and we didn´t have issues with that campaign apart from that
Sounds like the one who raged and quit the session had a severe case of TDS. x'D
TTRPGs can attract people of all types. “That guy” In my experience usually struggles with social skills and dealing with others. When he starts throwing a fit its better to let him walk away and hopefully blow off steam. But as often they just find another group and complain about you endlessly.
I remembered this joke that changed the fate of my party forever. The Party set up democratic elections because of an incident where the original authoritarian leader made a big mistake. One PC has a pet Mimic named Chomp and as a joke, I, the DM, made Chomp run for leader. He ended up winning the election and multiple reelections.
I mean, Mimics CAN speak common...
I trust a Suspiciously enticing looking gold chest that could talk much more than a politician.
Lol!! Does Chomp have mayoral meetings with Mayor Stubbs from Alaska?
Sure, your old grand party may have thought it was a joke to nominate a mimic chest for president, but no one was laughing when Trunk was elected.
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I think the wizard is wrong on 2 fronts.
1) If the joke had worn thin, he should've expressed that with his words. Yeah, some people can't take a joke as well as others, and there's nothing wrong with that. But if you're not willing to speak up for yourself, that's on you.
2) You do NOT attack teammates without discussing the course of action OOC first. You just don't.
3) You especially don't MIND CONTROL your teammates. The reason we play this game is to do stuff, whatever that stuff is. Mind controlling another PC is using the game's mechanics to tell another player "you don't get to do your thing, we're doing this my way, and you don't get a say in it"
OMG THIS!!!
I am the fighter and the author of this story. And you guys have summed up really well how I felt about the whole thing.
@@TomWilliams69 m8 he’s lucky your character didn’t kill him after the suggestion. But then he goes and tries murdering you over a joke.
@@TomWilliams69 remember to not get too trigger happy bout the thing. Your joke was just that, a ingame joke, so there is no reason for the wizard to go balistic over it. Hes in wrong. And if all of that story is true, he deserves that. But remember to never drop a joke too hard on somebody - not all people can take one like me or you, and things may get ugly. You know, sometimes its better to be safe than sorry.
But the std joke might have hit a bit close to home though if you know what I’m saying
I struggle to imagine a scenario where I can imagine siding with the That Guy. If he'd blown up and said something like "Guys, seriously, stop." That would have been something else. But he immediately decided to try and go for attacking another player character. He's just automatically in the wrong there, and anything that happens past that point is his own fault.
Yeah, you clearly don't do that unless you intend to turn into a bear and maul the guy. That's just an unspoken rule.
Not to mention he has a history of using control / combat spells against his own party members. Honestly after the "technically" third unsolicited "attack" against a Player we'd have booted him.
So in my personal opinion this was a situation where a joke went a bit too far. Nobody is fully at fault here though. “That Guy” should have expressed that the jokes were hurting his feelings and ruining his fun as opposed to getting upset, and the party should have realized that what they thought were jokes were being taken the wrong way.
All in all what we have here is a failure to communicate
Nah. See the first time a spell was casted on the fighter and it wasn’t to cool him down from a murder spree or attacking an innocent the wizard was in the wrong. The wizard was then warned if you casted a spell at me again there would be consequences. Yes the group could’ve noticed that the wizard wasn’t laughing and having fun at this point in time. But planning to kill or harm another PC is an offense that’s worse than being laughed at. Also you’re PC doesn’t need to have sex in a fictional world. Like I’ve had my character laughed at in game; and in real life. I came out laughing and a bit embarrassed. That was it. There’s no reason for the extra that happened
@@silentmeklar1783 I agree, there was no reason to make threats at his PC or anything. However on an out-of-game level the players should have realized that what they thought were jokes weren’t coming off that way to the other player
Again I don’t think he handled it well and I’m not defending him, but he isn’t 100% to blame for what happened, even if he was kinda being a jerk all game
@@apophis456 unfortunately, from the sound of it "that guy" was an edgelord attention hound. everyones to blame in this story
@@apophis456 def I’m not saying he’s to blame 100% however you have to understand they weren’t actually all together. So there’s also that. I’m just saying that guy holds a majority of the blame.
Gonna have to say, as both a Player and a GM, it's not difficult to just set an aside with the GM and state it flat out. "Look, this is getting into bullshitty territory. Lay off, or I'm out." and mean it.
It's also not so hard for the GM to even ret-con the joke part of the Priestess refusing treatment. She may represent a beneficent deity of light and all, but she's also a woman. In a Game-world with sexual mechanics ongoing (however trivial), she's been there and dealt with that before. She'd perhaps scold or lecture the guy, but refusing treatment when and where she's among a very short list of people who can even give treatment is outright CAUSING harm. It's not a tough argument... AND let's be realistic, here. Doctors took an oath to do no harm, and in a world setting with magic and all, so would healers, pretty nearly regardless of their origins or mechanical means.
It's not so difficult for a GM to step in and quell the giggle-fest, or pause the game so everyone can calm down, and then state the points of fact, that further picking on one Player is getting out of hand. They've done enough...
BUT we heard of none of the original point. That's probably because "That Guy" was acting like an ass the entire Game. It's a relatively simple principle at work here, and it's a standard HUMAN group dynamic. "If you don't want to get treated like shit, don't act like a turd." ;o)
I don’t think the op was in the wrong. They even made attempts to make things right and move on with the story. The guy might be overly sensitive but I don’t know if that because he thinks he’s supposed to be a main character like in a book or not. From what I can tell it sounds like it but I’ve never met him so who am I to judge.
Hi I just wanted to say that I am brand new to d&d and going to have my first session in a week.
I will be playing as a traveling halfling bard who get’s the most joy from making people happy.
I like the idea of him picking up stories on his travels so I will take a lot of inspiration from this channel.
There are a lot of great stories and there are a lot of ways to get them into my session.
I like to thank you for sharing these stories and hopefully I have a great one of my own soon enough.
As a returning forever Dm, any Dm who can make a one-shot in 2hrs is good in my book.
Guy who swings metal things vs guy who can alter the very reality around him... yeah, sounds like he covered his ass pretty well without outright killing a hostile PC.
That Guy did take things too personally, but OP's group did take the joke a little too far. I wouldn't play with either OP's group or That Guy due to those reasons.
I think this is the best summary I have seen on this page. I also wouldn't want to game with either of them.
I agree but I also have to say I feel like if That Guy said least once "hey can we lighten up, these jokes are ruining my fun" than things would have went differently. But I do think I wouldn't want to be in a game with either of these guys
@@jacobc8036 I suspect That Guy didnt have the social skills and/or self control to make that request. I also suspect that, whether consciously or intuitively, the rest of the group knew that.
I feel like TG was wrong by nature, but the rest if the group was wrong by choice.
It’s also telling that he didn’t say he apologized he said he tried to salvage the situation in my experience that usually means they don’t care
Do you think the party messed up or was That Guy being oversensitive?
both. everyone gets equal shares of the blame. from edgelord to the others, but theres no reason for the campaign to end, its just the loss of one player and a lesson learned.
I am surprised that the OP showed restraint after the gnome attacked him, not once but twice. I think the gnome would have probably fared worse with other groups for such actions considering that a verbal insult does not warrant a lethal response among what is supposed to be a party. I think the gnome's player severely overreacted in a immature way.
Also, keep in mind that it is the DM who gave the gnome the STD, not the OP.
I Think BOTH Parties Are At Fault. Yes,"That Guy" Was Clearly A Glory Hog That Needed To Learn That D&D Is A Team Game...But The Rest Of The Party Basically Just Started Making Fun Of Him,Without Bothering To Check To See If He Was In On The Joke. Both Sides Showed A Pretty Bad Lack Of Maturity In Their Game And Should Have Talked Things Out Like Adult Rather Then Decide To Attack Each Other (Even If It Was What They Thought Was In Good Fun). If You Don't Know Everyone In Your Group Well Enough,Don't Joke At Their Expense Because You Never Know How If They'll Find It Funny Or Not. All Of Them Were Just Kind Of Dicks Without Intending To Be Dicks And It Killed The Game.
I have thought long and hard on this and I can honestly sat
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that guy is way oversensitive
Should have told the guy to leave after he was slamming the other members behind their backs. Avoided the entire issue.
Seems to me, that guy didn't have the experience that he claimed. Experienced players don't disrespect other players when they aren't present, especially if they didn't make any mistakes. Experienced players have also lost beloved characters and have learned to not get too attached to said characters. That guy really didn't have a sense of humor either.
Oh trust me, I've known people who have played for a very long time who act like that. How you treat other people has very little to do with how long you've been playing TTRPGs. Some people get table etiquette quickly. Others never learn it, no matter how many times they might get called out on it.
Guess it was a ...
_killing joke._
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Nice comic reference!
Haha... Nice!!
Dude, I see you pop up in a variety of different channels that I like. I know this because I am often on the look out for "no step on snek" guy.
You have good taste by the way.
"I cast chromatic orb at the fighter!" Is something you never want to hear. Don't be that guy, don't go angry blaster mage.
Also when someone tries to leave to keep the game moving, don’t follow them. That was where the OP crossed the line. He stopped the game to keep this joke up
Yeah it was a mixture of being in the wrong on both sides but more of 'that guy' for being a prick first.
While I agree That Guy was a bit of a douche and a glory hog, I do think the rest of the party are partially at fault for that last session for keeping the STD joke going. By the time gnome went to the priestess, the DM should have reigned in the other players since apparently they were still laughing about it for 5 straight minutes.
Well, in a way we can see how it'd be funny for that long. Seeing as how it's canon in that story, that the "That Guy" used suggestion to mind control any NPC he ran across (And apparently failed all rolls to get in a woman's pants prior to that").
So seeing him "succeed" his use of Suggestion to get H, and get the clap after it. Would be both fitting and hilarious to see for a character whom up to that point acted like consequences were for other people.
“We helped a chaotic good necromancer. It sounds weird but the GM played it off well.”
I fail to see what’s weird. That just sounds like a DnD session.
Right!? One's Class doesn't affect one's alignment. One can be any mix of those they want, as long as they're well written. Although no lie, I'd love to see a Chaotic Good Necromancer, it'd be pretty fun to see.
Wh...h no WHERES THE CAPTIONS?! HOW AM I GOING TO KNOW HOW TO SPELL THE EXOTIC CHARACTER NAMES?! *CALAMITY*
DOOOOOOOOOM. _yirbel lives!_
I forgot to publish them 😅 It’s available now
@@allthingsdnd ah yes all is well!
I've had similar experiences tbh, there's always someone who gets pissy and can't take a joke or someone who takes a joke too far. People suck and unfortunately finding the right group of complete strangers to play with is always difficult, that's why I always advocate for bringing in new players from your actual friend group. In my experience most people who never thought about playing tend to enjoy it once it gets to the comradery and meaningful RP, plus friends always screw with eachother so a joke too far is never really a bad thing since you already know they didn't mean it as an actual offence
It sounds like "That Guy" just wanted to get in on a group of newbies and assert his dominance over the others, and when something bad finally happened to his character he got super pissy about it. "That Guy" was already being a bully to the group way before the joke happened, so he didn't really have any grounds to stand on.
I'm back once again! And I have to say that after listening to this one. OP did take things a bit further than he should have. But "that guy" was also at fault for not communicating that he was taking it personally.
Also "that guy" shouldn't have attacked OP like that. Plus he was warned that there would be consequences for attacking op with spells. So he can't really get angry when he's paying for his actions.
I don't see any reason why the campaign can't continue. Seems like the party's in a good place to replace that guy. They shouldn't have any trouble finding another player and writing them in as somebody they picked up in the market are at the in. Hell, if I could, I would be glad to be his replacement.
You know, I find myself in that guy's shoes recently. My DM tried to pull a funny with my character when my character thought it would be good to adopt an orphan (long story). The DM had the matron of the orphanage lead me to a room full of kids (without warning me), all of them were confirmed to have ADHD. The kids manage to take my character down in a dog pile but my character managed to get free. I then said aloud, "I'm getting the heck out of there.". Which somehow translated for the DM to "I forgot to close the door." When he tried to explain this to me and I told him my character wouldn't have forgotten to closed the door because he wanted a barrier between him and the kids. He then told me to roll intelligence. With a meager +2, I got a 6 in total. He then said that my character did forget. It should be noted that we have done general intelligence checks before and I'm normally fine doing this but the DM seemed to really want this scenario to happen and for no reason other then to poke fun at my character. In truth, I wouldn't have felt nearly as mad if it weren't for the fact that I lost my most power weapon (a magic dagger that hit like a great sword) by handing it over to a shop keeper. The second it was in the guy's hand, it melts because he was examine another dagger that apparently was supposed to be it's opposite. There were some other factors involved but they are small and I could be here all day listing them.
Now, my DM has had us to some really fun encounters and I have enjoyed the year long campaign we have been on and I look forward to what we will be doing next. However, in the relative short time I have been a player I have learned something that all DMs should take to heart (the same goes for players too). Don't poke fun at the players that's demeaning to them and takes away from them having fun in game. With that being said, if this does happen to a player, don't do what "That guy" did in this video by getting mad and try to attack another PC. If it bothers you that much, act like an adult and talk it out with the DM and/or Player(s). Let them know how you are feeling and that you want to have fun with the rest of the party. If it so happens they have grievances of their own with you, hear them out. Don't let friendships/ acquaintanceships get ruined just because you have one or even several bad sessions. If they persists and it's still not fun, then leave and find a different group to play with.
Eh. A little fun poking is fine, it keeps the games light hearted and adds a bit of perspective. That being said, seems like your DM was more or less targeting you specifically in these instances. I feel as if losing a special weapon like that to what sounds like random chance is actually absurd. You lose weapons like that due to battles, theft, or horrible luck in some other fashion, not because a random store owner has its polar opposite in his breast pocket.
One of my groups running jokes is danishes my character was killed and when he was revived to get back to the party he brought them danishes as a sorry for being controlled by a vampire. Now as a running joke one of us brings danishes to our d&d games. I got to the point where we no longer have our d&d anymore but we still bring danishes to any events that all of us are able to get together. It's all how you roll with the punches
I'm going to have to side with the OP here. That Guy was warned to stop his behavior and he chose not to listen and kept mocking the group when bad things happen to them, now he knows what it's like to be on that end.
you hit him where it hurt, likely not knowing it was a sensitive spot. then you did try to make peace.
that's all you can do. if an apology or restitution is offered, then your duty is discharged and you can do no more.
heck him.
I like how this channel has become a confession board!
that guy had plenty of chances to be cool, maybe the party could be more vocal about exactly what that guy is doing directly to him that sucks
To my understanding the fight broke out while the teller’s character was drunk. If it were me, I’d personally talk to “that guy” try to explain I didn’t know he was taking it personally, and then have my character apologize after he sobered up. But I can understand why these people acted the way they did in the moment.
If we're being fair, That Guy cast Suggestion on another player's character just to get his way. He later did another creepy That Guy thing with the stereotypical "I have all the sex with everyone I can". Ensuring he suffers the consequences of his own actions is not a bad thing. Against someone who was obnoxiously undermining everyone else throughout the campaign, I don't believe OP did anything wrong.
We had a campaign where a guy tried talking my Tiefling Cleric into fleeing our dungeon and abandon our party while we were in the middle of fight that was meant to be hard for the entire party and things weren't going well. My guy was particularly close with our Dragonborn Paladin and would never have abandoned them. They fled on their own, and we barely managed to come out with our lives, with me being completely out of spells helped carry our unconscious Pally out. After getting out, our ranger managed to knock out our cowardly Sorcerer and took all of his gear. He later escaped and fled. the GM had a talk with him after the game, and he was told by the sorcerer that it was in his bg that he was like that, so the gm let him make another char. that later joined us. In like our 2nd fight with him in the party he spent the entire time trying to steal some booze from some giants instead of helping with the fight. If not for a cleaver plan from our rogue that lured one of the giants into chasing them it would have been a tpk for the rest of us. Everyone was so Pissed. The gm had another talk with them and they said that "our game play wasn't the kind of game they wanted to be in" I guess he just wanted to be completely individual and not help a party. We all enjoyed the game much more once we knew we could all depend on each other.
A similar thing happened to me in a group of my friends I had been playing with for a few months and it started when my character had misunderstood the situation and one of the players made a joke "why did you do that? This is why you're dad left" which he knew was a touchy subject as my parents are divorced. Suffice it to say I left that group permanently and I haven't spoken to any of them sense
We had a guy invite himself to join our group. We normally played as a group of six but were two shy from PCS (military jargon for transfer) and welcomed the chance to have one of the PCs played by the new guy instead of one of the old group doing double duty. Nope. New guy wasn't interested. In fact, he continually insisted that the way his previous DMs had done things was the right way and the only way. We asked New Guy to roll two characters, JIC one of his was killed quickly. He rolled a straight fighter and a clone of MY PC. He claimed he had played an identical PC but failed to offer ANY proof whatsoever. One other thing: he had recently read as was obsessed with the Videssos Cycle. He could not comprehend how weapons that were devastating when wielded by the Legion were a joke in the hands of just one PC. The DM graciously allowed New Guy his non-standard weapons. Pretty much as everyone predicted, his fighter was killed in the first melee. He gleefully announced that his OTHER PC would turn the clock back, something MY PC could actually do as an ability. He was NOT happy to discover that he wouldn't get that ability until he reached at least 5th level. He also discovered the futility of a newbie begging for help from a superior when his PC hadn't bothered to ask my permission to join the campaign. The discussion took longer than I had the ability to turn back the clock, the fighter was well and truly KIA, and New Guy quit the group in a huff.
You should look at putting these on spotify as a podcast, id love to listen to these stories on the way to, and/or during work
just forget about '"that guy" find a new player if you want another one and just continue with the campaign
“That guy” was in the wrong. DND a the end of the day is about the social interactions and the friendships u make with other people, it’s supposed to bring people together in a good and fun way, I’m 17 and I been playing dnd for 7 years now am I can honestly say that I got my fair share of, in good taste, insults but in the end it’s all about the memories from the jokes u make and the interactions that take place.
I don't see an innocent party here, but I do see varying degrees of guilt. I'd say the joke was taken a bit too far, but That Guy's reaction was definitely OTT. He could have just mentioned OOC that he felt it was going too far.
When they said it was a game ending joke I was thinking of people who literally will actually refuse to let a real story play out or someone get something started or break world emersion due to some on running joke. I'm met people you literally just can't RP with because they are like that. And think the height of comedy is to just keep going because eventually the commitment to the bit will make people love it instead of being annoyed.
Chalk it up to a learning experience and that not everyone is compatible in playing the game. You have made your efforts to reconcile and should just move on provided everyone else remaining is also of a like mind.
There was a Campaign where we ended our last session going drunk in a bar and my character wakes up in the next session on the floor of the bar. I decided to be cautious and decided to check my character's person. My DM did a quite bullshit "Shrodinger's Cat" Instance and when I barely SUCCEEDED my investigation check, my character was completely naked. I lost all of my belongings and armor except for my weapons (fortunately and oddly). Not only I hated the fact my character is humiliated this way (I admit I slightly took it personally) but also it slowed down our quest since Key NPCs cannot take a Party with a completely naked man seriously.
I mean, sure, after one fight with a beholder I got a Boon that says I get bonus AC the more naked I am (I am a Battle Master Fighter with Two-Weapon Fighting and not a Barbarian, BTW) but that last session almost soured my first D&D experience, even if I was really a good sport. Hurts even more that that Campaign never saw the end because of someone else in my party. My DM even said I would have had the best ending since I can turn into a Neutral naked Angel with Level 25 power.
For "That Guy" in this story, if he is playing the Campaign like a game instead of another life, then he is no Player worth keeping.
I think a lot of it was just different expectations between the players on how they wanted the game to go. I could definitely be wrong but that’s my thoughts on this
4:06 Suggestion isn't all powerful. You can still role-play with it.
OP here.
We rolled for stats and That guy had 20 intelligence. At level 1 his spells save DC was 15.
It rarely failed and whenever it did he immediately cast it again before anybody else would say anything
Feels like Communication took a hit from the Valentine brothers.
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I'll find the exit by myself.
It sounds to me like That Guy (I hope he doesn't mind me just calling him That) was taking it too personally, but also not enough communication or boundaries were made from the start by everyone. It doesn't help that That was being such a diva from the beginning; I kinda feel like his character deserved that STD at the end, joke or not.
The person who was wrong here was definitely "that guy" if he can't deal with a couple of jokes xD
"Screw 'um if they cant take a joke" is something villains say.
To me, it sounds like everyone handled things poorly.
yea OP took things too far
I think at first it would be a funny joke, but it just went too far. Once the guy stopped laughing they should have stopped as well. If the victim isn't laughing, it isn't a joke anymore
I gave DMed my twin brother and another friend on many occasions and most of the time he flips out because our friend is doing something like stealing his body or killing his fifth character, but he always does stuff back to him, so what I think is that the dude should have just laughed at himself for the joke and simply gotten you back later with another joke, all in good fun
Today I was wearing a plague doctor costume for school. Weird coincide that one of the pc was a plague docter to
I went through something similar at one point. Though I am fairly certain that I was the problematic member of the party,. At any rate, I thought I was making a clever joke, but wound up offending people. But everything is a learning experience, and I won't be doing something like that again.
That guy looks like billy from the grim adventures of billy and Mandy
That guy needs a snickers.
Player vs player is generally a big no at most tables I've ever played with, so That Guy would have been in the wrong from the moment he tried to cast suggestion on another player. Even if the joke went too far, trying to attack your fighter without making it clear he was upset and no longer having fun wasn't the right way to handle it. Fortunately, it sounds like your group had reached a natural ending point anyway.
Yeah, when players try to ‘mind control’ other players that’s a pretty big red flag.
Honestly it's no different than when a dragonborn monk kept picking up and gnome bard the bird told him that the next time he does it he would stab the dragonborn in the eye dragonborn did it again a few sessions later and The gnome ended up with an eyeball on the end of his rapier.
Eventually you start to pull pranks on each other or laugh at the expense of another. You can choose to embrace the joke and keep the laughter going though. Our dwarf grabbed a bugbear named balsag by the codpiece and used shocking grasp. We were roaring with laughter and that blue dwarf flushed purple. The next session he did it again with balsags brother! We were basically playing innuendo bingo and it was the funniest shit. He's the blue baller and we love him for it. At another point they had a picnic and left me alone to kick some skeleton ass. If things go right when we face a white dragon very soon I'll toss our paladin a potion, not tell him what it is, and suddenly he's 12ft tall. I'm hoping to make two of them if I can find enough ingredients. I got enough blood for two at a time at least. Though I'm sure our rogue will be confused as to why I cut my hand open with his dagger.
I once had a character get gender-bent as part of a joke gone too far. What happened was my character was joking around with another character about how we both wanted to be the High Priest of Olidammara, the god of tricks and pranks, because both of our characters were pranksters at heart. However, his character had already been named the High Priest due to him breaking his paladin oath with his previous god and pledging it to Olidammara. So, my wizard jokingly decided that he could be the High Priestess, and used Alter Self to change his appearance from a punky-looking mid-20's male wizard to a 20's female blonde bombshell wizard.
And OIidammara decided that was good enough for him and made the change permanent.
At first I was kinda miffed, but the dice had rolled that way so I just went with it and spent the last 4-5 sessions of the campaign playing a female who'd been a male all her life. At one point she exclaimed "It's hard to cast these friggin' spells sometimes with these tits in the way!"
Later on in another campaign with the same group I was playing a female cleric. We were in this dungeon and came upon this room with a well. We were trying to figure out what to do next and my cleric went "I'll swim down the well and see if there's a passage at the bottom". Do the thing, roll a CON save, fail it and end up drinking some of the water. Roll a d4 to determine the effect, comes up a 4. DM starts laughing hysterically and goes "It's always you!"
Female cleric went in, male cleric came out. :|
Went back to town after that dungeon and sought out one of the high mages to fix this little problem. The mage wasn't super familiar with the party, and didn't understand what the problem was. She looked at him and went "I want *this* (gesturing to her crotch) gone, and I want *these* (gesturing to her chest) back!" The party had a good laugh at that.
I mean. That guy was a bit of a glory hog. But the other still purposefully kept that joke going way to long. Guy pretty much was picked on in that last session. Some players have faults, not all intentional. Communication is key for that reason. No one wants a character they put time and effort into becoming the butt of a joke forever.
It doesn’t sound like they were laughing at him for multiple sessions. It sounded like it was just one.....
@@silentmeklar1783 Doesnt matter if it was 1 session or half an hour. No one wants to be the butt of a joke over and over. He even talked about following him and telling others about his problem. It was insensitive no matter now you spin it as the offending player. Both players failed and acted inappropriately.
So several things here, actions have consequences. And in this cas, TG was kind of a prick from the start it sounds like. And a glory hog. OP really didnt take it too far, as logically that would make sense (in terms of std). And the fact that he also told TG to never cast a spell against him again or there would be consequences. Honestly, TG is lucky his wizard wasnt turned to paste by OP fighter.
It sounds like the player had issues separating himself from his character, combined with a bit of narcissism. Making fun of his character was not going to end well.
@@DarkKnightKaraco he followed him in game time. Which is the next morning. So 2 minutes in real time. This was probably 15 minutes of laughter. He needed to get over himself. That’s one. If you can’t take a second to separate yourself from your character and have a laugh, you need to reevaluate some stuff. I’m not saying OP was in the right. However it certainly isn’t his fault that things got as bad as it did. Your PC casts a spell on me the first time, and it wasn’t justified I’m probably going to swing with the intention of knocking you out. If this was a running joke that lasted multiple sessions. Then yeah that guy had a reason to be pissed enough to attack another PC.
Well speaking from recent experience when playing with "new people". There needs to be an understanding or communication. As the rule of thumb is to Assume makes an "A** out of you and me" so it you are going to banter or sh*t talk people you will want to build up a rapport with them outside the game. For example I had one person in one of the campaigns I am in joking that my character who is a rouge/monk was going to die. I had asked him to stop on numerous occasions but he continued. Then one session I had snapped and went off on it as people did not realize that it was getting to me though granted I should have said something sooner. (also they are not native English speakers and I am). Apparently I find out he is just sh*t talking but he would not stop when asked and would continue.
Best thing to do is if you are going to do things that can be taken wrong is to try to build up a rapport with your fellow players outside the game to get a feel for boundaries as everyone has different tolerances and expectations. While you can not always meet those expectations you can at least respect what you can. no one can please everyone. xD
I think a situation like that should've quickly been resolved by a apology from the offender. Remember a session should be fun for everyone, dm and players. In a new group it always takes a few session to find the right chemistry. However from your story he seemed like a besserwisser (someone that always claims to know better for the sake of acting superiour)
I think that I'm this scenario, the best thing to do would be to apologize out of game, and then ask the DM for a redo.
A pompous jerk was dealt with in the best way possible
Good on he narrator guy for working on Genshin Impact and being the voiceover for the AD's
This story explains how lawful good can easily fall to lawful Evil easily without knowing it. You thought you were doing good by keeping the joke going but not realizing you harmed people in the end. It doesn’t matter if it was intended that way or not as that is what happened; talk to the guy. That’s the only thing that can help now.
Even as a new dm I would never allow a child to play, "that guy" was a child, it would have ended at the one shot with me
send him a picture of you T-posing to assert dominance
That guy was a oduche canoe
this was maybe this is too much time spent in the army, but if i had a character like the gnome i would have been dying laughing in that moment. i put the blame on that guy
Wow. This guy plays a lot of dnd. An entire campaign every few days.
If your campaign doesn't end with a joke by the DM you've not played a campaign
Why is it that a game where communication is a central idea attracts so many people who are bad at it?
So I started playing DND about 2-3 months ago. I started playing with friends of mine online and we're slowly getting into doing better rp. We all joke around for good fun. We haven't gotten to the point where anyone has gotten offended in anyway so I can't say from experience on that end but I personally believe "That Guy" was in the wrong. The reason for that is because he could have said something about how it's offensive or it feels like he's being picked on. He did according to the story. So while I don't blame him for leaving, he could have said something to the group or asked them to stop.
OP is at fault here. The dude took the joke way too far, then got confused when TG stood up for himself.
One contributing issue is that That Guy's glory stealing behavior was not called out right away by other players. They have as much right to express their boundaries as does That Guy. But even more, it's a standard of, well, parenting, that you let a child know right away when they've done something wrong. If one waits til long after -- after the child has forgotten, or, lacking any information to the contrary, believes what they did was ok -- then the child will feel unfairly reprimanded. Adults are not so different... The DM might try to work in a quiet warning...or, after each session, hold an after-action review -- what worked? what needs fixing? what caused problems? A caution though -- doing an after-action review is likewise something that needs to be started with the first session, else, as with delayed reprimand, it will seem like unfair targeting. It won't work unless there is buy-in from the players. Maybe pitch it as, how can we make this more fun for next time? Note the after-action review idea is borrowed from many other fields (e.g. agile software development, kaizen) so one does not need to invent it from scratch. Note also that glory stealing is absolutely endemic in business and (in particular) the tech industry. It's a major cause of team dysfunction and unhappy workers. If players are having this done to them in real life, they'll be all that much more sensitive to it during a game. After all, part of why they're playing is likely to get away from the frustrations at work...
PANR has tuned in.
On the one hand, telling a joke over and over is beating the horse dead.
On the other hand, That Guy could've said it was getting to him.
Even though he's That Guy, and since I don't personally know him, I think it was a lack of communication that sealed their fate.
I mean... I understand where both sides are coming from, but "that guy" kinda brought it on himself. Sure, the joking kinda went a bit far, but he also just set himself up to get pissed and rage quit from prior decisions. The dice just made it go a lil over the edge.
Gotta love and praise the RNGods.
I feel like I know this that guy. It just sounds too eerily familiar to similar issues i had with our that guy.
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That guy was being over sensitive
It was definitely the that guys fault the only fault I can lay at OPs feet is he failed to see that guy was upset witch I don’t see has a big enough fuck up to make op the bad guy in this situation.
I do medieval reenactment. Don't start anything you can't finish. Don't fling insults if you can't take them. This is all on that guy. Some people need to learn the hard way that they aren't the center of the universe.
That guy was blowing it out of proportion
I think everyone is to blame, he could've spoken up but he was a sorta bum throughout the campaign but everyone else could've stepped in at any time to get back on track but hey you were having fun, that's the game isn't it? Its quite sad to see a group break up in any way. Maybe someone else could reach out to him like the sick DM (seriously dude, kudos to you!!) can reach out and let him know there will be another game at {said time} and if he would like he is welcome to play! But if he doesn't try to keep the door open and just have his character fade out until he feels like playing!
100,000% Gnome Wizard is wrong. If everyone else is new, then he needed to have patience. If he is experienced, he shouldn't get so upset. Anyone who was handling things in such a manner for as long as he was clearly has issues.
Tell DM to make gnome wizard bbeg, he storms off to join surviving orc raiders, recruits and builds army of the vestiges of who the party defeats, then cries and complains in final monologue. Keep the character annoying, and have fun thwarting him :D
I've seen stories like this so may times. Some arrogant person is all "I'm an experienced veteran player and DM!" "Well, time to demean everyone and make myself the star!"
Yeah, maybe I'm a jerk for thinking this, but I'm glad that guy got knocked down a peg.
Play stupid games win stupid prizes. Imo “that guy” was begging for it the whole campaign
May have taken it a little far but based on Ur side alone I wouldn't loose sleep on it
I’m going to say the party was at fault. They clearly didn’t make sure that the guy was in on the joke, proceeded to make the priestess not heal him, AND PVP (stealing from party member) even in the nature of preventing him from going crazy.
That guy sound like a guy we had in my lmop game on roll20. Dude rage quit over bad rolls during a boss fight. I wonder was it the same guy. He came in say the same stuff.
When it comes to looking for a group online. NEVER have one member be the odd one out. You can prevent many of these stories by just getting like minded players even if it takes a little longer
The title, but "...Thanksgiving Dinner"
“I cast chromatic orb!” Ok there goes 50gp... “I cast chromatic orb again!” Ok now he’s just wasting money.
I would say its a fault of both of them. That guy is a bit of a dick but we don't really know if that is warped at all in perspective. I would say following a character just to make fun of them when they are just getting something resolved is also a dick move. Probably for the best of the party that they split away form that player if that is the attitude they want to take and he dislikes it.
Some parties like to laugh at some peoples misfortune and others dont. Its really just about the group dynamics.
To OP, all I can say is you did nothing wrong. The campaign can easily continue without That Guy. Keep having fun with the GM and other players, as That Guy was just a general overall ass that you are better off without.
OP here.
unfortunately our campaign did end here. But I'm still good friends with the GM and play in 2 other campaigns with him.
Honestly I can’t really think of any situation that an in game joke would make me that upset even if it was at my expense. Cracking jokes is part of the game and your character isn’t immune to getting roasted. If it was the same joke over and over for like multiple sessions I might get it, but you gotta know how to laugh at yourself
That guy definitely wouldn't last 2 sessions at my table, me and my friends rip on each other HARD. Only rule to play at my table "don't dish it if you cant take it" other than that go hard and have fun.
I would have used that guy’s char as a soccer ball, in my opinion that joke was pretty tame
You're not wrong. If anything, you got rid of a condescending a**hole and got some spell components to sell to make some gold. You win either way 👍
Someone else said it well.
I wouldn't want to game with either of those guys.
He's That Guy. He's automatically at fault.
that guy was being FAAAARR too sensitive