“The villian doesn’t need a special feature to have a wyvern mount, I guess you guys don’t need one either.” That’s a valuable lesson; the rules are a structure to hang the game on, not an iron directive to straightjacket the game into “fun”.
Lol I only do rules when there’s a significant reason to not let my player do it for example I won’t let them drive a fantasy car cause they have no basis to actually know how it functions without directions from the creator plus I won’t let them use it right away cause it’s crazy fast so either do the dc check or learn it the long way not to be harsh but to be balanced
I go with is it possible your character could do that then sure give it a try then make the appropriate check with the appropriate dc etc. But also understand actions have consequences if you try to do something stupid it may well backfire
I find that the DM is actual following the rules in that there is no rule stating that the players cannot do what they did. I prefer that every PC and NPC be bound to the same rules meaning anything the NPC can do, the PCs can do and vice versa, barring any particular prerequisites or conditions. It keeps the game fair and honest rather than breaking the rules so a NPC can be "cool" because the DM had to cheat to do so which is not very fun as a player.
My beloved NPC was a little girl named Anna. The setting dictated that Dragonborn were super rare. I love, love, LOVE playing Dragonborn so my DM let me. Well, every time we went somewhere new everyone marveled, stared, or panicked at the sight of me. I was a 7 foot tall silver Dragonborn with wings. One of the town's eventually became our home base. In that town, Anna became enamored with me, I was like a unicorn to her. We became good friends and I took her for flights and she brought me little trinkets and bits of wood. I whittled toys for her and told her stories of our adventures. I miss that campaign
That is adorable, I only have ever had one npc I have gotten really attached to. I was playing a neutral evil tielfing warlock with a sorta devil may care attitude and a shit ton of bad habits like drinking and smoking and basically all the in game d**gs only with the party as a means to an end, but during a mission we were doing I met this kid working in a seedy bar I had gone too for a drink without the others and this kid was getting pushed around and....other things by the patrons, one thing about ny character he may have been evil awful and really a massive dick head but he has always been very protective of children and seeing this he kinda snapped, he killed half the bar including the bar keep and left leaving a bag of gold on the counter with a note on it created by illusionary script basically saying it was for the kid. We left the town shortly after but in down time I had my character keep making trips back to the town, I bought the bar and started it back up taking the kid under my wing as a pseudo son and that kid slowly pushed my character out of nuteral evil into true neutral where he stayed giving up his d**g addictions (for the most part) for him
@@axel4196 unfortunately that campaign ended a while ago, my character had gotten married after I got out of my deal and I adopted the kid and gave him a younger brother
@@axel4196 another one who got in my way........I guess this minor antagonist would work. Ok so this guy was the main antagonist for our lower level game play, basically a crime boss who had some major dirt on my character and another character, unfortunately once we got to a higher level he vanished and we couldn't find him. Once we reached level 20 I had figured out where he was (this was a different character by the way, I was a level 20 wizard in this) and well, I was not to be denied by a bunch of bandits, so I teleported right into his main base of operations while they were all asleep and grabbed him, then I took him too my dungeon, a place we had cleared out a long time ago that I had claimed for my personal experiments, well the poor bastard became a lab rat kept alive for it by clone
@@jonasvogt3278 Never seen one at any game I have played in as there is always a consequence for that behaviour. However, this story is not really about murderhobos so much as the kill it because it is evil mentality.
@@dominicthegamingnerd8650 He wound up getting killed and put back together with more construct parts. As his player put it, he was basically “a high fantasy Robocop” with a wyvern mount. Before being rebuilt, he was able to have a son with a lvl.18 Tiefling witch. They didn’t become an official couple or get married, but they maintained a cordial relationship.
@@Alurkerdood The story can be found, in its entirety, on 1D4 chan. I won't include a link, since there was one NSFW image on that page, last I looked. The story itself, however, is the very definition of wholesome.
Nice! It was interesting to hear how another group tackled the Hell's Rebels AP. In my own group's playthrough of the Menador Keep, we had a noble-born Bard that managed to keep Lucian distracted with drink while the Rogue went invisibly exploring all over the keep. But the Erinyes with True Seeing and Telepathy spotted the Rogue, raised the alarm, and a massive fight broke out. Lucian got onto the Wyvern mount, and was busy dive-bombing us, but a well-timed Fear spell panicked Lucian, making him lose control of his mount while fleeing in mid-air (he failed his Ride check) and eventually suicidally jumping off the cliff into the valley. We eventually managed to talk the wyvern out of depression over losing its master, and transformed it into a statue to carry around until we could find a better home for it.
Two weeks ago I started a campaign that ended up the centaur necromancer and goblin bard singing songs from the greatest showman Our DM ended up deciding that this would be a musical campaign where the BBEG was elsa from frozen played by one of our regular players With the power of song we were able to stop the evil ice witch and talk her down from the mountain where she could take back her kingdom from the evil prince hans An all diplomacy win no fighting at all and I call that a 100% positive result
@@PBStriker101 my previous comment explain this campaign is in the comment section of AllThingsDnD's video from 3 weeks back "how I killed 2000+ zombies" if you are interested
Honestly, I could imagine a final boss fight where you all are singing at each other like metal operatic metal singers. And the combat will be like Gitaroo man with increasing metal intensity.
"He must have had a fetish for small folk and... Overcompensated in his efforts to hide it." This is the problem with a lot of evil douchebags it seems, and just another reason xenophobia sucks. Gnomes are awesome!
And good writing on part of the campaign creators. This was actually a common occurance in totalitarian governments, where various bloody figures would be especially cruel to groups they could have been blamed to be connected to
@@warwolf3005 yep, like French Nazi supporters being especially cruel to French Resistance fighters. My favorite example is Pastors that preach hellfire and damnation for gays themselves being caught with cocaine while playing swords with a male prostitute.
In my current game, my Wizard is the father of twins with an NPC, and the Lord of the city the party has their home base in, we brought his daughter back from the dead, so he pretty much loves us. :)
The very first speaking NPC in one of my first campaigns. We were clearing out a cave full of goblins. We left the last goblin alive so we could talk to it. He called himself Snigbat. We all decided right then and there to pledge our fealty to this very confused goblin. From then on out, our party was Snigbat Squad. That's even the name of our Discord channel. Our DM was annoyed at the time that we memed on day one, but in the years since he's developed an entire naming system for goblins based on this encounter.
So to preface this, I listen to these while I’m doing chores or playing games. Anyone else get confused and then realize he was saying duchy (duh-chee) as (du-she)? I honestly thought for a minute the story was talking about, *ahem* ‘feminine product’ or an unpleasant person until I rewound and started again, lol.
my current charachter seems to leave behind reformed criminals who find joy in art and culture wherever he goes. a chef, an archeologist, a tailor, and one even found religion.
YIRBEL LIVES! You know its times like this when i wonder just where the term murder hobo came from. Who could have been the first to utter the phrase and what horror must the person have witnessed to utter them.
That Lucian fellow would have gotten a fireball from me. It would’ve taken a lot of resistance not to kick his shit in. Royalty or not any character I have you mess with their friends they kick your ass
Y’know, I used to think that the slightly moving backgrounds in your videos were dumb. But your videos are really easy to not get bored of and the little movements in the background really keep your attention.
Rise of the runelord is a great campaign I've played a couple times. In one I was a half elf alchemist with a massive archeology bent who had figured out some of the basics of the ancient thasalonian language. and our second game I ended up rolling randomly a lawful neutral elven cavalier. He had a human adopted little sister who eventually became a bard. I really loved both games as our group where not murderhobos and did alot to form connections and even friendships with the npcs. They where very attached to the starting town, knowing all the npcs and even mourned the loss of any if them. Even the not so nice ones. (well, except one guy.. lol)
Had a few "specialized" or "earned in-game" mounts over the years... I generally ruled by "Ego Contest" which you can look up in older editions of D&D... Basically a Character's ego is IQ plus "primary stat" (unless Wis is the better call at GM's discretion or Table convo') Divided by 2 (averaged together basically)... AND you can let the PC's actions and efforts effect the contests over time, while you work out the "narrative license" (build story reasons why) the two bond in such a way. One noteworthy Companion-bond was when a Ranger decided to raise a Displacer Beast instead of getting rid of the thing... OBVIOUSLY, there were incidents and antics galore, but we were kind of "that sort of group"... Some of my Players can get an idea stuck in their head(s) and just turn "iron core" in their resolve to either commit to the thing or die trying... Around the terms of "young adult"(?) it was both hilarious and heartwarming when the Displacer Beast (by then having gone through monikers like "damned tentacle cat" and "the popping pervert") saved the Ranger after a critical fumble nearly got him killed (tripped and sent prone)... Shadow was always "Shadow" to the Ranger, though... and I was partly running what the dice decided (as I'd assigned them to decide) and partly I was signalling that they'd reached their bond all together... It would still be time while the young-ish Displacer Beast finished growing up and "filling out" but I had a Character Sheet (for what it was worth) to hand over... Funny enough, that Campaign eventually got retired... AND both the Ranger and Shadow were famed across the land for being companions... as they were. ...I've found that even as an "evil GM" it helps not to present myself as always "the evil GM if I don't want murderhobo's to be an issue. ;o)
Exactly. My group that's played "The Shackles" before was *hurt,* and it shows. It's fun to do hardcore games, but it's only natural that when weaknesses are punished severely, players will make characters that lack them to survive.
@@jacobp.2024 It's a bit of a tricky balance... On the one hand, weaknesses are there to be exploited. It's a cornerstone of storytelling, and lessons should be learned about reinforcing things strategically or suffering consequences... BUT as a GM, you've also got to temper that with the ease at which you "wear it out" for the group if you repeat it too often, or if you overdo the punishment. SO... you pick and choose. I'd advise you to ease back on them around favored NPC's and Creatures and the like... Show that you're a consistently beneficent force in the Game, and they'll start building trust. Personally, I like to deal with a favorite NPC's death pretty much the same as a PC... I try to keep them just as rare simply because they SHOULD carry the weight and meaning in-Game just like a PC-death should. Some people simply are not destined to die of Cancer or Slipping on the soap and breaking their neck. ;o)
The Vigilante class has an archetype called Warlock. It swaps out a lot of the Vigilante Talents for the spellcasting of a Magus. I.E. Wizard/Sorcerer spellcasting up to spell level 6.
We have a dwarven battlemaster with a giant goat. He took mounted combatant, and begun his multiclass as fighter6/ranger1 into revised beastmaster. It will be awesome - if we ever get to it.
In a campaign that I am DMing the party were planning to capture a guy for info on where he’d left a woman’s remains (she came back as a violent spirit and I homebrewed some rules for handling it). Part of the plan involved convincing his horse to go along with their plan. The Druid pulled this off, as they had Speak with Animals and managed to get advantage on persuasion by giving the horse an apple and appealing to its dislike of its own name (Ironclad), the smell of its master (he drank a lot) and generally being nicer to it. When the plan was executed, Ironclad did his part and his rider was captured. He then stuck with the party, who renamed him Stardancer (much to his delight). The responses that I had from him usually consisted of ‘What is blank’ or ‘I like blank’ due to his very low intelligence. But that led to answers which resulted in things like ‘What are friends? Are you my friends? I like having friends!’ Or ‘What is family? Family is like a herd? You are my herd now? You’re my family!’ And by the end of that session (third session so far, on December 26th of this year) the three party members just loved this horse. Now they have him as an NPC companion. The last time they took this well to an NPC of mine was when I made an intelligent raven familiar (Really an ancient amnesiac and guilt ridden sorcerer in disguise) whose main running gag was that he would do anything if he was given mead and agreed to become a familiar to the group’s necromancer in such a deal.
Sadly, I never had the chance to have a favorite NPC... my DMs and GMs usually had the classic "go here, task done, go away" style. The only exception was my superhero character's wife in a Champions campaign. She was one of the two last members of an extended stage magician family (the other was her brother, an ex superhero who got blinded during a calamitous event), and I was the one who had taken the identity of his brother and his two teammates after they were almost killed during the above mentioned event (gadgeteer + variable equipment = three different heroes in one). Basically, as her brother was a stage magic themed hero, my character needed someone to train him, and she was available. Cue bonding, falling in love and finally marrying. Mind you, many of my other characters had lots of social abilities, from the samurai that started studying as a kabuki actor to the dwarf warpriest being a pastry chef to the hardboiled irish detective with a true passion for the saxophone. They had the means, but they didn't have the chance. Which sucks.
In kingmaker, one of my players had an undead dragon mount. I modified the AP for my home campaign. when the players turnde the evil weapon of ares champion into the church of Athena(there is alot of enmity between the two deities in my setting), the whole party received dietic wishes. The player with an undead dragon wished for a living and loyal dragon mount. cue a brand new soul for her formerly undead dragon mount and many "mommy" issues. 🙂
First, I expect laughter One time with my party after clearing a dungeon we leveled up, I was a paladin 3 and after the lvl up fighter 3, so I went dragoon archetype. I wanted a dragon but my dnd didn’t know how to do stuff for dragoon’s so he said I couldn’t have a dragon but anything else was ok. Close enough I guess. Lol
just wanna ask... what are the stories from the intro? I recognised part 1is from the story of Astoshan, the grey necromancer, but the rest is still to be found.
Oddly the best not murderhobo story from my players was them exploring the sewers under the city. Too many frightened tales of terrifying noised for them to ignore. So down they went. Well this turned into a nervous fright fest for the players. The sewers were real. Foul things floating in the water and a few pockets of methane that loved their torches. And to really frighten them. Someone or something had shredded practically all the ladders they found leading out. And very little life either. And every once in a while a mournful painfilled cry echoing through the tunnels. After hours of searching they came to a shaft with an intact ladder. And a young red dragon. They kept quiet but forgot to douse their lights. They watched the thing search around the chamber till it found the ladder. Then it began to try and climb its way out. But halfway up the ladder tore out of the wall from its weight and the creature slammed to the ankle deep filthy water on its already ruined wings. And they heard its pain filled wailing. That was when they realized it was also blind. Never even seeing their lights, it was injured, sick, and starving. It was the paladin that decided they needed to tend to the poor thing. "This isn't a monster. It is an injured child. And my place is to defend the weak and help the helpless." So the party managed to approach and calm the dragon and eventually lead him to the sewer exit by the river. The cleric working to heal the poor thing. Sadly the campaign ended due to schedule changes. But it is one I remember.
My Human Barbarian/Rogue Faileas fought a bunch of thugs, as he tackled the last surviving one he shouted. "DO YOU YIELD?!" and when the bloodied thug whimpered a yes, Faileas headbutted him for non-leathal damage 'for being a coward' but let him live 'with the shame of fleeing from battle.'
there seams to be a peace missing from the audio. The party rolls for initiative against the guy who was going to feed a halfling to his pets, then all of a sudden everyone is running, and something about a pass, then the party is looking for more prisoners.
Well, most parties (in my experience) would think of trying to get a wyvern mount rather than kill it right away. As a matter of greed for a mount if nothing else.
Although i always tend to make my characters with the original intent of them being edgy and evil and murder-y, I somehow always end up having to remake my backstory and alignment a bit because i always end up playing (sort of) good It is a curse, my friends. One, that I have proven unable to defeat. So, I stopped fighting it. I decided that my characters shall be either good, or neutral (or that devilish slashbuckler who is like a charmimg banker - he will presuade you into signing a very VERY bad (for you) contract. He will still do his part though)
So one time recently according to the time I made this post my brother made a Homebrew game it was like d and d slash a couple other games but d and d was most of the inspiration including some of the characters the magic system but most of it was still Homebrew so we got in the game with two other people who I forget their names let's call them a dancer and Hunter no for Shadowing yeah that's what their characters were basically one was a dancer or who was nude most of the time and only had a rag the other one was a vampire blood mage who also was a bit of a hunt was also bit of a night I guess the fighter class is the closest thing I can say to it and I was an elemental Master basically I wanted to have all the elements under my control because that let me do a lot of shenanigans so we start and it's supposed to be that we're storming Dracula's castle as he's getting resurrected it yeah seeing as one of us was a vampire hunter we were actually able to sneak past the guards roll encounter you see three hallways and a group of guards is chasing you down a hallway dancer rules to hide behind a pillar or a statue and I try and hide behind a different one Hunter goes and tries to face them which was a bit terrifying seeing as we rolled terribly for hide checks two soul dancer in all of them sold me so the answer was able to talk his way out of it and make them think he was with them however I am very happy for this moment because the blood mage can learn summoning magic in a lesser imp which I was can be is a summon familiar or maybe not a familiar but it can be summoned so I give them a story about Hunter is a mercenary and he summoned me to try and and take out the people in this Castle if they ever ask questions of of then what's a mercenary doing here or you say well the King was well Dracula was the people that were resurrecting Dracula we're getting suspicious that people might want to kill him so seeing as there were two preoccupied resurrecting Dracula they were wanting to pay a mercenary in order to kill them even though that was us so we snuck past them seeing as everything checked out we all went down different hallways to go out dancer went straight to the throne room or where Dracula was almost instantly I think he may have had a couple of encounters but I don't remember he made up for it I went down on mine and went to their explosives armory before encountering some more guards my brother who is the DM wanted me to just use two or three bombs and go and meet up with dancer who was at Dracula however I rolled bluff we were using bluff instead of for our persuasion checks I don't know if I said that earlier and it worked so I kept up my bluff and didn't have to use any of the bombs however Hunter his path he went and saw banshees however seeing as he was a mage he was immune to him seeing as he was a vampire he was immune to them so there is nothing that they could do then he found Dracula's son because apparently he has a son and he decided not to kill the child who was a master illusionist and would become the dmpc we all met up at the door to Dracula's throne roomand that's when dancer had a really good idea it wasn't a good idea but it worked perfectly so the answer had a cloak of healing potions basically whenever he took damage they'd shower for him and helped you would heal his injuries however seeing as vampires are classified as I'm dead it isn't like acid or anything like that in case you're wondering but it was still enough basically his he looked like a vampire tall pale skin so yeah he was able to trick Dracula using bluff into him being in exotic dancer which he actually was a dancer and he was well very exotic so he went and sat on Dracula's laugh he was an exotic dancer so he ruled that he probably would be able to do this and then he showered Dracula in health potion as well as stab him two times with razor claws we could have used Dracula's son to easier to make a fight easier but seeing as he took Dracula out in one turn I don't think it would have made it easier so that's how it oh an exotic dancer beat Dracula in one turn bite by a sitting on his lap and clawing at his neck
Hey people I need some help.bim creating my own spell called [True Hand of Annihilation] lvl N/A, at the cost of the users life it will kill what ever the user wants in its entirety. So far the only one that can use it has not been introduced yet but how do I put it in my game
"Bonding with an NPC companion has to be one of the greatest feelings in D&D" No offense intended, but a cynical part of me immediately thought that this sounds like one of the loneliest, most "Yunyun"-like statements a person could make about D&D lol
My players were given a murder mystery that involved a succubus, the succubus was innocent in the event & the players had found evidence to convince them She was innocent & after it was solved they decided to let her keep doing what she does
im about 6 minutes in and i cant help but think that this dude would be an awsome ace combat mission narrator. or any briefing/debriefing narrator. try to make that happen and let me know if you do as i would love to listen to you go on about political complexities as im about to go shoot some planes or whatever.
Do you think this is a happy ending for the wyvern? Well its not. The wyvern is going to be single for the rest of its life. Because no one wants to have sex with someone who talks like a child.
Zailosorn got much better as the campaign went on. The Silver Ravens were able to help him overcome his mental trauma and got him to start speaking Draconic properly.
Ah, giving the players the same privileges as the enemy. Many DMs balk at the idea, but that's exactly what creates frustrated murderhobos. Because when creativity doesn't work, all that's left of the game are stat blocks for combat.
Yes and no. Pathfinder 1e follows most of the same rules of 3.5e. So much so it’s unofficial nickname was 3.75e. So it’s more like an offshoot of DnD than something completely different.
Not gonna lie there were far too many technicalities and definitions in this story. I gave up at the 4:42 mark when I realized I had absolutely no idea what was going on.
I pack bond with random unnamed pc and forcefully drag them in my character's adventure, had one that bonded with an Inn maid, which was secretly a random assassin meant to introduce us to the big bad devil worshipping crime syndicate, I rolled a 3 on a secret insight check and the DM told me the girl looked like dissatisfied with her life while she was actually inspecting our weapons. Then I rolled a 20 trying to persuade her to look for a better career, offering her help. 7 months later we were sidetracking the main quest marching straight to hell to free the soul of my character wife, which was swore to hell. Yup the random unnamed assassin.
“The villian doesn’t need a special feature to have a wyvern mount, I guess you guys don’t need one either.”
That’s a valuable lesson; the rules are a structure to hang the game on, not an iron directive to straightjacket the game into “fun”.
So few players and DM's understand this. :)
Lol I only do rules when there’s a significant reason to not let my player do it for example I won’t let them drive a fantasy car cause they have no basis to actually know how it functions without directions from the creator plus I won’t let them use it right away cause it’s crazy fast so either do the dc check or learn it the long way not to be harsh but to be balanced
I go with is it possible your character could do that then sure give it a try then make the appropriate check with the appropriate dc etc. But also understand actions have consequences if you try to do something stupid it may well backfire
I find that the DM is actual following the rules in that there is no rule stating that the players cannot do what they did. I prefer that every PC and NPC be bound to the same rules meaning anything the NPC can do, the PCs can do and vice versa, barring any particular prerequisites or conditions. It keeps the game fair and honest rather than breaking the rules so a NPC can be "cool" because the DM had to cheat to do so which is not very fun as a player.
I mean, didn’t they say earlier the baddie was a ‘cavalier without a mount’. I’d say being a cavalier is kinda part of why he had him.
My beloved NPC was a little girl named Anna. The setting dictated that Dragonborn were super rare. I love, love, LOVE playing Dragonborn so my DM let me. Well, every time we went somewhere new everyone marveled, stared, or panicked at the sight of me. I was a 7 foot tall silver Dragonborn with wings. One of the town's eventually became our home base. In that town, Anna became enamored with me, I was like a unicorn to her. We became good friends and I took her for flights and she brought me little trinkets and bits of wood. I whittled toys for her and told her stories of our adventures. I miss that campaign
That is adorable, I only have ever had one npc I have gotten really attached to. I was playing a neutral evil tielfing warlock with a sorta devil may care attitude and a shit ton of bad habits like drinking and smoking and basically all the in game d**gs only with the party as a means to an end, but during a mission we were doing I met this kid working in a seedy bar I had gone too for a drink without the others and this kid was getting pushed around and....other things by the patrons, one thing about ny character he may have been evil awful and really a massive dick head but he has always been very protective of children and seeing this he kinda snapped, he killed half the bar including the bar keep and left leaving a bag of gold on the counter with a note on it created by illusionary script basically saying it was for the kid. We left the town shortly after but in down time I had my character keep making trips back to the town, I bought the bar and started it back up taking the kid under my wing as a pseudo son and that kid slowly pushed my character out of nuteral evil into true neutral where he stayed giving up his d**g addictions (for the most part) for him
@@hadeskingoftheunderworld7010 Both you and Maureen have awesome stories! Followups, please? I'd love to hear what the two of you do next! : )
@@axel4196 unfortunately that campaign ended a while ago, my character had gotten married after I got out of my deal and I adopted the kid and gave him a younger brother
Niiice! Tell me a story about another poor SOB that got in your way... I bet you have quite a few under your belt!
@@axel4196 another one who got in my way........I guess this minor antagonist would work. Ok so this guy was the main antagonist for our lower level game play, basically a crime boss who had some major dirt on my character and another character, unfortunately once we got to a higher level he vanished and we couldn't find him. Once we reached level 20 I had figured out where he was (this was a different character by the way, I was a level 20 wizard in this) and well, I was not to be denied by a bunch of bandits, so I teleported right into his main base of operations while they were all asleep and grabbed him, then I took him too my dungeon, a place we had cleared out a long time ago that I had claimed for my personal experiments, well the poor bastard became a lab rat kept alive for it by clone
"How my players proved they weren't murderhobos"
I see that you're only interested in the exceptionally rare.
medium rare
Murderhobos are common in your games?
the first campaign our group played, everyone was a murderhobo
That's a good one for a meme. Disney's original Aladdin, right?
@@jonasvogt3278 Never seen one at any game I have played in as there is always a consequence for that behaviour. However, this story is not really about murderhobos so much as the kill it because it is evil mentality.
Hi, everyone. I'm the one who submitted this story. If you have any questions about this story, let me know.
thanks. it was well told, and you are right to be proud of your friends.
may they be led by you, and you by them, to even greater virtue.
I have a hard time finding groups bc of my skin color any advice ?
@@DeoSiege are you sure it’s that?
What happened to the Azure meteor after the campaign ended?
@@dominicthegamingnerd8650 He wound up getting killed and put back together with more construct parts. As his player put it, he was basically “a high fantasy Robocop” with a wyvern mount.
Before being rebuilt, he was able to have a son with a lvl.18 Tiefling witch. They didn’t become an official couple or get married, but they maintained a cordial relationship.
If you want an ever better example of the anti-murderhobo story, I recommend you look into the tale of Noh.
Lots of nohs on YT, do you have a link?
@@GrifoStelle 1d4chan has a good entry talking about Noh and the rest of the story.
@@Alurkerdood The story can be found, in its entirety, on 1D4 chan. I won't include a link, since there was one NSFW image on that page, last I looked. The story itself, however, is the very definition of wholesome.
Hello~
Or check out ShiftQuest.
Nice! It was interesting to hear how another group tackled the Hell's Rebels AP. In my own group's playthrough of the Menador Keep, we had a noble-born Bard that managed to keep Lucian distracted with drink while the Rogue went invisibly exploring all over the keep. But the Erinyes with True Seeing and Telepathy spotted the Rogue, raised the alarm, and a massive fight broke out. Lucian got onto the Wyvern mount, and was busy dive-bombing us, but a well-timed Fear spell panicked Lucian, making him lose control of his mount while fleeing in mid-air (he failed his Ride check) and eventually suicidally jumping off the cliff into the valley. We eventually managed to talk the wyvern out of depression over losing its master, and transformed it into a statue to carry around until we could find a better home for it.
Two weeks ago I started a campaign that ended up the centaur necromancer and goblin bard singing songs from the greatest showman
Our DM ended up deciding that this would be a musical campaign where the BBEG was elsa from frozen played by one of our regular players
With the power of song we were able to stop the evil ice witch and talk her down from the mountain where she could take back her kingdom from the evil prince hans
An all diplomacy win no fighting at all and I call that a 100% positive result
I wish i could take part in a campaing like this lmao
@@PBStriker101 my previous comment explain this campaign is in the comment section of AllThingsDnD's video from 3 weeks back "how I killed 2000+ zombies" if you are interested
Honestly, I could imagine a final boss fight where you all are singing at each other like metal operatic metal singers. And the combat will be like Gitaroo man with increasing metal intensity.
I see that as an absolute win
one: cool
two: da fuq
Him "how a proper civilization organizes itself"
Me "So I feel the need to switch my alignment from NG to CE as THE URGE TO BURN RISES"
evil? you’re doing justice
"He must have had a fetish for small folk and... Overcompensated in his efforts to hide it."
This is the problem with a lot of evil douchebags it seems, and just another reason xenophobia sucks. Gnomes are awesome!
And good writing on part of the campaign creators. This was actually a common occurance in totalitarian governments, where various bloody figures would be especially cruel to groups they could have been blamed to be connected to
@@warwolf3005 yep, like French Nazi supporters being especially cruel to French Resistance fighters. My favorite example is Pastors that preach hellfire and damnation for gays themselves being caught with cocaine while playing swords with a male prostitute.
Its nice to see the intro and recognise the characters
That was an amazing story Ian. Really wish we had more Pathfinder stories like this
Nice, that was both wholesome and quite cool.
Have you ever bonded with an NPC companion in any of your campaigns?
Billy the bandit
In my current game, my Wizard is the father of twins with an NPC, and the Lord of the city the party has their home base in, we brought his daughter back from the dead, so he pretty much loves us. :)
I have a goblin companion in the campaign I'm playing right now
Ezmerelda d'Avinir from Curse of Strahd. Quite the roller-coaster trying to cure her of vampirism.
Could you upload to spotify as a podcast so i can listen while driving?
How my players proved they weren't murderhobos .
Wait, you can do that ?
I mean, my party had a game where we killed a wyvern's rider, adopted the wyvern, and then adopted a small mimic.
The very first speaking NPC in one of my first campaigns. We were clearing out a cave full of goblins. We left the last goblin alive so we could talk to it. He called himself Snigbat. We all decided right then and there to pledge our fealty to this very confused goblin. From then on out, our party was Snigbat Squad. That's even the name of our Discord channel. Our DM was annoyed at the time that we memed on day one, but in the years since he's developed an entire naming system for goblins based on this encounter.
Want a good future?
_Make it happen._
- Courage Wolf
So to preface this, I listen to these while I’m doing chores or playing games. Anyone else get confused and then realize he was saying duchy (duh-chee) as (du-she)? I honestly thought for a minute the story was talking about, *ahem* ‘feminine product’ or an unpleasant person until I rewound and started again, lol.
my current charachter seems to leave behind reformed criminals who find joy in art and culture wherever he goes. a chef, an archeologist, a tailor, and one even found religion.
First time in a long while I've made it here within 30 minutes of upload
3 weeks for me
@@LuisReyes-qk1ew 3 weeks after your 3 weeks I'm here.
Been a while since I've been first on a new video! Love the content you guys put out ❤️❤️❤️
haha Haha hentai 👍👍👍👍👍🎭
I think you’ll find a problem with that, I posted a moment before you(I reloaded to make sure) :) lol have a nice day
TLDR: Instead of killing the poor bound wyvern they adopted it as a mount.
My bard who’s entire spell list was made for the sole purpose of looking awesome in performances: ok?
YIRBEL LIVES! You know its times like this when i wonder just where the term murder hobo came from. Who could have been the first to utter the phrase and what horror must the person have witnessed to utter them.
All hail astoshan
Ow that was very heart warming and super cute story also all things DND this was another great video keep up the Dame good job my man!!!!! 😁😃😀
The one Dislike is ,Lucien
this is probably one of my favorite stories now :)
I'm running a group that is very open-ended, and they proved themselves not to be murderhobos by NOT participating in a ship mutiny, on either side.
That Lucian fellow would have gotten a fireball from me. It would’ve taken a lot of resistance not to kick his shit in. Royalty or not any character I have you mess with their friends they kick your ass
Y’know, I used to think that the slightly moving backgrounds in your videos were dumb. But your videos are really easy to not get bored of and the little movements in the background really keep your attention.
Rise of the runelord is a great campaign I've played a couple times.
In one I was a half elf alchemist with a massive archeology bent who had figured out some of the basics of the ancient thasalonian language.
and our second game I ended up rolling randomly a lawful neutral elven cavalier. He had a human adopted little sister who eventually became a bard.
I really loved both games as our group where not murderhobos and did alot to form connections and even friendships with the npcs. They where very attached to the starting town, knowing all the npcs and even mourned the loss of any if them. Even the not so nice ones. (well, except one guy.. lol)
Had a few "specialized" or "earned in-game" mounts over the years... I generally ruled by "Ego Contest" which you can look up in older editions of D&D... Basically a Character's ego is IQ plus "primary stat" (unless Wis is the better call at GM's discretion or Table convo') Divided by 2 (averaged together basically)... AND you can let the PC's actions and efforts effect the contests over time, while you work out the "narrative license" (build story reasons why) the two bond in such a way.
One noteworthy Companion-bond was when a Ranger decided to raise a Displacer Beast instead of getting rid of the thing... OBVIOUSLY, there were incidents and antics galore, but we were kind of "that sort of group"... Some of my Players can get an idea stuck in their head(s) and just turn "iron core" in their resolve to either commit to the thing or die trying...
Around the terms of "young adult"(?) it was both hilarious and heartwarming when the Displacer Beast (by then having gone through monikers like "damned tentacle cat" and "the popping pervert") saved the Ranger after a critical fumble nearly got him killed (tripped and sent prone)... Shadow was always "Shadow" to the Ranger, though... and I was partly running what the dice decided (as I'd assigned them to decide) and partly I was signalling that they'd reached their bond all together... It would still be time while the young-ish Displacer Beast finished growing up and "filling out" but I had a Character Sheet (for what it was worth) to hand over...
Funny enough, that Campaign eventually got retired... AND both the Ranger and Shadow were famed across the land for being companions... as they were.
...I've found that even as an "evil GM" it helps not to present myself as always "the evil GM if I don't want murderhobo's to be an issue. ;o)
Exactly. My group that's played "The Shackles" before was *hurt,* and it shows. It's fun to do hardcore games, but it's only natural that when weaknesses are punished severely, players will make characters that lack them to survive.
@@jacobp.2024 It's a bit of a tricky balance... On the one hand, weaknesses are there to be exploited. It's a cornerstone of storytelling, and lessons should be learned about reinforcing things strategically or suffering consequences...
BUT as a GM, you've also got to temper that with the ease at which you "wear it out" for the group if you repeat it too often, or if you overdo the punishment.
SO... you pick and choose.
I'd advise you to ease back on them around favored NPC's and Creatures and the like... Show that you're a consistently beneficent force in the Game, and they'll start building trust.
Personally, I like to deal with a favorite NPC's death pretty much the same as a PC... I try to keep them just as rare simply because they SHOULD carry the weight and meaning in-Game just like a PC-death should. Some people simply are not destined to die of Cancer or Slipping on the soap and breaking their neck. ;o)
Warlock? There is no warlock if pathfinder. There is a witch which is a similar idea but very difrent in practice.
It was one of the archtypes of the vigilante.
The Vigilante class has an archetype called Warlock. It swaps out a lot of the Vigilante Talents for the spellcasting of a Magus. I.E. Wizard/Sorcerer spellcasting up to spell level 6.
Wyvern mount huh? Nice
What a wholesome story! It's great to have a point of light in the middle of the dark and edgy stories that often occur in DnD campaigns.
Especially considering what happened... later.
@@reapergrimm8 Meaning what?
@@jonathanmarks3112 Things got very dark after this point.
Once i run a evil campain, they torture hobo's, contract killing harpers but never gona murderhobo.
I recommend highly of you're not a dungeon delver. Cavalier classes are awesome.
We have a dwarven battlemaster with a giant goat. He took mounted combatant, and begun his multiclass as fighter6/ranger1 into revised beastmaster. It will be awesome - if we ever get to it.
In a campaign that I am DMing the party were planning to capture a guy for info on where he’d left a woman’s remains (she came back as a violent spirit and I homebrewed some rules for handling it). Part of the plan involved convincing his horse to go along with their plan. The Druid pulled this off, as they had Speak with Animals and managed to get advantage on persuasion by giving the horse an apple and appealing to its dislike of its own name (Ironclad), the smell of its master (he drank a lot) and generally being nicer to it.
When the plan was executed, Ironclad did his part and his rider was captured. He then stuck with the party, who renamed him Stardancer (much to his delight). The responses that I had from him usually consisted of ‘What is blank’ or ‘I like blank’ due to his very low intelligence. But that led to answers which resulted in things like ‘What are friends? Are you my friends? I like having friends!’ Or ‘What is family? Family is like a herd? You are my herd now? You’re my family!’ And by the end of that session (third session so far, on December 26th of this year) the three party members just loved this horse.
Now they have him as an NPC companion.
The last time they took this well to an NPC of mine was when I made an intelligent raven familiar (Really an ancient amnesiac and guilt ridden sorcerer in disguise) whose main running gag was that he would do anything if he was given mead and agreed to become a familiar to the group’s necromancer in such a deal.
Sadly, I never had the chance to have a favorite NPC... my DMs and GMs usually had the classic "go here, task done, go away" style. The only exception was my superhero character's wife in a Champions campaign. She was one of the two last members of an extended stage magician family (the other was her brother, an ex superhero who got blinded during a calamitous event), and I was the one who had taken the identity of his brother and his two teammates after they were almost killed during the above mentioned event (gadgeteer + variable equipment = three different heroes in one). Basically, as her brother was a stage magic themed hero, my character needed someone to train him, and she was available.
Cue bonding, falling in love and finally marrying.
Mind you, many of my other characters had lots of social abilities, from the samurai that started studying as a kabuki actor to the dwarf warpriest being a pastry chef to the hardboiled irish detective with a true passion for the saxophone. They had the means, but they didn't have the chance. Which sucks.
In kingmaker, one of my players had an undead dragon mount. I modified the AP for my home campaign. when the players turnde the evil weapon of ares champion into the church of Athena(there is alot of enmity between the two deities in my setting), the whole party received dietic wishes. The player with an undead dragon wished for a living and loyal dragon mount. cue a brand new soul for her formerly undead dragon mount and many "mommy" issues. 🙂
First, I expect laughter
One time with my party after clearing a dungeon we leveled up, I was a paladin 3 and after the lvl up fighter 3, so I went dragoon archetype. I wanted a dragon but my dnd didn’t know how to do stuff for dragoon’s so he said I couldn’t have a dragon but anything else was ok. Close enough I guess. Lol
now cri
You guys and girls are first
I wish my party could prove this 😂
So basically, there was never any need to worry they would be murder hobos in the first place.
Nice title
tittle bittle omg is that tigger on a bigger human
How my players proved they weren't murderhobos:
They bought a house and became murder homeowners
first time being on time
ayyyyyyyy
Nice
Same here man
On god
Not bad- not bad at all...
just wanna ask... what are the stories from the intro? I recognised part 1is from the story of Astoshan, the grey necromancer, but the rest is still to be found.
Oddly the best not murderhobo story from my players was them exploring the sewers under the city. Too many frightened tales of terrifying noised for them to ignore. So down they went. Well this turned into a nervous fright fest for the players. The sewers were real. Foul things floating in the water and a few pockets of methane that loved their torches. And to really frighten them. Someone or something had shredded practically all the ladders they found leading out. And very little life either. And every once in a while a mournful painfilled cry echoing through the tunnels. After hours of searching they came to a shaft with an intact ladder. And a young red dragon. They kept quiet but forgot to douse their lights. They watched the thing search around the chamber till it found the ladder. Then it began to try and climb its way out. But halfway up the ladder tore out of the wall from its weight and the creature slammed to the ankle deep filthy water on its already ruined wings. And they heard its pain filled wailing. That was when they realized it was also blind. Never even seeing their lights, it was injured, sick, and starving. It was the paladin that decided they needed to tend to the poor thing. "This isn't a monster. It is an injured child. And my place is to defend the weak and help the helpless." So the party managed to approach and calm the dragon and eventually lead him to the sewer exit by the river. The cleric working to heal the poor thing.
Sadly the campaign ended due to schedule changes. But it is one I remember.
Any tips for a campaign to run? I did lmop
lmop? idk what that is
My DM is running dragon of icespire, and it’s been a lot of fun
@@lamiyaalshraideh7412 im glad to hear it 😁
Curse of Strahd is fun, but I reeeeeeally enjoyed Descent into Avernus.
@@xdwindy504 it is lost mines of phandavilen (I misspelled it Ik)
numbereth?
numero seite
My Human Barbarian/Rogue Faileas fought a bunch of thugs, as he tackled the last surviving one he shouted. "DO YOU YIELD?!" and when the bloodied thug whimpered a yes, Faileas headbutted him for non-leathal damage 'for being a coward' but let him live 'with the shame of fleeing from battle.'
Woo made it on time
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PC: has robot arms
Artwork: normalass arms
I love dnd
there seams to be a peace missing from the audio. The party rolls for initiative against the guy who was going to feed a halfling to his pets, then all of a sudden everyone is running, and something about a pass, then the party is looking for more prisoners.
I assume there was EPIC COMBAT! Which is all I really need to know, but still.
@@dillonrichard2541 That is indeed what happened.
Well, most parties (in my experience) would think of trying to get a wyvern mount rather than kill it right away. As a matter of greed for a mount if nothing else.
Does anyone know where I can watch this campaign
Interesting characters
So many proper nouns.
I feel like among the magical races of DnD, the "jack of all trades with no magical traits" would not be the species to hold superiority over others.
Does these stories make anyone else wanna start playin DnD..
Although i always tend to make my characters with the original intent of them being edgy and evil and murder-y, I somehow always end up having to remake my backstory and alignment a bit because i always end up playing (sort of) good
It is a curse, my friends. One, that I have proven unable to defeat. So, I stopped fighting it. I decided that my characters shall be either good, or neutral (or that devilish slashbuckler who is like a charmimg banker - he will presuade you into signing a very VERY bad (for you) contract. He will still do his part though)
So one time recently according to the time I made this post my brother made a Homebrew game it was like d and d slash a couple other games but d and d was most of the inspiration including some of the characters the magic system but most of it was still Homebrew so we got in the game with two other people who I forget their names let's call them a dancer and Hunter no for Shadowing yeah that's what their characters were basically one was a dancer or who was nude most of the time and only had a rag the other one was a vampire blood mage who also was a bit of a hunt was also bit of a night I guess the fighter class is the closest thing I can say to it and I was an elemental Master basically I wanted to have all the elements under my control because that let me do a lot of shenanigans so we start and it's supposed to be that we're storming Dracula's castle as he's getting resurrected it yeah seeing as one of us was a vampire hunter we were actually able to sneak past the guards roll encounter you see three hallways and a group of guards is chasing you down a hallway dancer rules to hide behind a pillar or a statue and I try and hide behind a different one Hunter goes and tries to face them which was a bit terrifying seeing as we rolled terribly for hide checks two soul dancer in all of them sold me so the answer was able to talk his way out of it and make them think he was with them however I am very happy for this moment because the blood mage can learn summoning magic in a lesser imp which I was can be is a summon familiar or maybe not a familiar but it can be summoned so I give them a story about Hunter is a mercenary and he summoned me to try and and take out the people in this Castle if they ever ask questions of of then what's a mercenary doing here or you say well the King was well Dracula was the people that were resurrecting Dracula we're getting suspicious that people might want to kill him so seeing as there were two preoccupied resurrecting Dracula they were wanting to pay a mercenary in order to kill them even though that was us so we snuck past them seeing as everything checked out we all went down different hallways to go out dancer went straight to the throne room or where Dracula was almost instantly I think he may have had a couple of encounters but I don't remember he made up for it I went down on mine and went to their explosives armory before encountering some more guards my brother who is the DM wanted me to just use two or three bombs and go and meet up with dancer who was at Dracula however I rolled bluff we were using bluff instead of for our persuasion checks I don't know if I said that earlier and it worked so I kept up my bluff and didn't have to use any of the bombs however Hunter his path he went and saw banshees however seeing as he was a mage he was immune to him seeing as he was a vampire he was immune to them so there is nothing that they could do then he found Dracula's son because apparently he has a son and he decided not to kill the child who was a master illusionist and would become the dmpc we all met up at the door to Dracula's throne roomand that's when dancer had a really good idea it wasn't a good idea but it worked perfectly so the answer had a cloak of healing potions basically whenever he took damage they'd shower for him and helped you would heal his injuries however seeing as vampires are classified as I'm dead it isn't like acid or anything like that in case you're wondering but it was still enough basically his he looked like a vampire tall pale skin so yeah he was able to trick Dracula using bluff into him being in exotic dancer which he actually was a dancer and he was well very exotic so he went and sat on Dracula's laugh he was an exotic dancer so he ruled that he probably would be able to do this and then he showered Dracula in health potion as well as stab him two times with razor claws we could have used Dracula's son to easier to make a fight easier but seeing as he took Dracula out in one turn I don't think it would have made it easier so that's how it oh an exotic dancer beat Dracula in one turn bite by a sitting on his lap and clawing at his neck
Hey people I need some help.bim creating my own spell called [True Hand of Annihilation] lvl N/A, at the cost of the users life it will kill what ever the user wants in its entirety. So far the only one that can use it has not been introduced yet but how do I put it in my game
Well what kind of mage can use that spell?
It had better be at the cost of the casters soul, because being able to oneshot things tends to be easily worth the cost of resurrection.
lol pugilist brawler, I wonder how many people know about that marital art
"Bonding with an NPC companion has to be one of the greatest feelings in D&D"
No offense intended, but a cynical part of me immediately thought that this sounds like one of the loneliest, most "Yunyun"-like statements a person could make about D&D lol
"Yunyun" as in Yuki-kun?
Fruits Basket reference ?
@@amyliaclenny1866 Nah, Yunyun as in Yunyun from Konosuba
Good guess though!
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@@jacobp.2024 QUICK INITIATE THE JOJO REFERENCE
@@mysteriousjester4046 YES, YES, YES, YES
I've been wanting to play a cavalier myself...
I want to know now where the rest of this story went.
havent made a comment of my own yet so now i do
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Nice
Archduchy...heh... You said arch.
How is everyone doing today
I'm doing very well today
nice
@@jonasvogt3278 glad to hear
Better today than I was yesterday. Thank you for asking. Good vibes your way, and to anyone who needs them today. :)
@@river7874 glad to hear. Your welcome. And thank you. And right back
I am building a character that's a Ranger with a wyvern companion that I can ride. I'm working to make it so that it's not op!
Upload to spotify as a podcast so i can liaten while driving?
My philosophy as a player: If it breathes, it dies
Also me: The Party's Paladin
My players were given a murder mystery that involved a succubus, the succubus was innocent in the event & the players had found evidence to convince them She was innocent & after it was solved they decided to let her keep doing what she does
People is really weird.
weird really is people
People weird is really?
Is really people weird?
Another note on... Pregante how to?
Why does everyone pick dire wolves as animal companions? No love for the adorable pseudo dragon.
Murder hobo gets old after a while,got to actually have some good Roleplaying as well.
i dont understand how this would be a DND story when the rpg told is a Pathfinder rpg
Sooo.... they proved they weren't murder hobos.... by not killing a captive wyvern.
Ok.
im about 6 minutes in and i cant help but think that this dude would be an awsome ace combat mission narrator. or any briefing/debriefing narrator. try to make that happen and let me know if you do as i would love to listen to you go on about political complexities as im about to go shoot some planes or whatever.
I don't know if it's due to the fact that I'm high or not, but I can't say that I understood anything due to the names
Stoped at 10:07. I just wanted to know the story of how they didn't kill everything. I don't need to know you're whole campaign
Awww...
I want to applaud the video but I'm broke
856th Like, 8.4 thousandth something view, but hey, I'm still here. :D
Huh. Got here 15 min after posted. Earliest I've been.
At first, I was annoyed by how you kept mispronouncing "archduchy", but now I think you're right; it is a land ruled by an archdouche.
Nevermind, I was wrong.
Do you think this is a happy ending for the wyvern? Well its not. The wyvern is going to be single for the rest of its life. Because no one wants to have sex with someone who talks like a child.
Zailosorn got much better as the campaign went on. The Silver Ravens were able to help him overcome his mental trauma and got him to start speaking Draconic properly.
Why do people insist on naming their adventuring group?
Because it's cool?
@@Reddotzebra Ehhh...
Actually, the name is given by the AP itself.
this was full of so many pronouns that it helped me to get ready for bed. thanks, endless attempts at fantasy sounding people, places, and things :D
Ah, giving the players the same privileges as the enemy. Many DMs balk at the idea, but that's exactly what creates frustrated murderhobos.
Because when creativity doesn't work, all that's left of the game are stat blocks for combat.
Isn't pathfinder and dnd separate 😑
Yes and no. Pathfinder 1e follows most of the same rules of 3.5e. So much so it’s unofficial nickname was 3.75e. So it’s more like an offshoot of DnD than something completely different.
None of this feels... murderhobo-y. None of their listed actions are, so the title kinda gives the wrong impression
Not gonna lie there were far too many technicalities and definitions in this story. I gave up at the 4:42 mark when I realized I had absolutely no idea what was going on.
What a waste of experience.
I pack bond with random unnamed pc and forcefully drag them in my character's adventure, had one that bonded with an Inn maid, which was secretly a random assassin meant to introduce us to the big bad devil worshipping crime syndicate, I rolled a 3 on a secret insight check and the DM told me the girl looked like dissatisfied with her life while she was actually inspecting our weapons. Then I rolled a 20 trying to persuade her to look for a better career, offering her help. 7 months later we were sidetracking the main quest marching straight to hell to free the soul of my character wife, which was swore to hell. Yup the random unnamed assassin.