While I agree that a polar coaster would likely never happen at cedar point, I actually think it could fit into the parks lineup. Most polar coaster concepts were more like complex’s right? A polar coaster could have room for a drop tower and an observation tower (emphasis on the observation tower, after CP removed space spiral they could use a new one in my opinion)
It's a tough pill to swallow but consider this, when Magnum reaches the end of it's operating life (probably sooner rather than later) CP calls Intamin and uses the plot of land to build "Magnum XL 500". It would probably extend north beyond where Magnum currently sits but this is totally doable. It would have a similar layout (just super sized) and in a tip of the hat to it's predecessor would still have a very airtime filled finale.
Intamin? Not a chance in hell. Intamin makes great rides for enthusiasts but not for parks. We already know how CF feels about them. And Hersheypark, if they were completely candid, might admit they’re none too happy, either. CF has had great luck with B&M. If CP are going to go big on their next major coaster-I’m not convinced this is where the park is going, but anyway-why not ask B&M to build something along the lines of Fury 325?
Oh snap that would be sick. I love magnum like the next guy but it will die someday long from now. Kings Island did a tribute to the Bat, so I feel this is total feasible and awesome. But I do have to doubt that cedar point would build something that large anytime soon. It's not financially practical to do record breakers anymore.
As cool as it would be, I’m pretty sure Tony Clark has already said CP has no interest in going any taller than Dragster ever again. The wind and weather out on the Point make it inhibitively difficult to make a ride that tall operate consistently
@@chrismalinowski654 Wind would be a major factor above 400 ft if the coaster would have any elements. The coaster would need to be designed to take elements with a speed variance due to wind where it can both easily navigate inversions and hills with the worst headwind, and not get too much speed from the worst tailwind to be too intense. Ensuring that kind of window on a coaster that's has no real world analog at the point is impossible. So unless you want a coaster that's a 2 minute lift hill, a drop then a break run, it's not happening there.
I LOVE your speculations! They're always so thoughtful and make me excited about the future! I actually REALLY like the idea of a coaster (whether 500 foot or not) extending out into the peninsula parking lot. I think Cedar Point still has some incredible days ahead of itself!
I agree! I'm getting to that age, 54, so I hope to see new coasters before my body gives out but I'm the type óf person that will just do whatever & deal with the pain for a week,,, lol. Going next month
#1 roller coaster hype man on TH-cam lol. I like location 1 the best as well. I would think a lot of future planning would put a heavy emphasis on crowd control. I also hope they consider RMCing Gemini before ever removing it. I'd feel less obligated to make a trip to California to ride Twisted Colossus 🤙
I can’t imagine Cedar Point building a launched 500ft coaster with one launch. One of the issues with Top Thrill Dragster is the wind. Since this ride would be 100 feet taller, that would only amplify the issues. Maybe your idea of a booster launch could work, but I think there could be an amendment. Something I could maybe see working is if they mimicked something like Wicked at Lagoon with a launched vertical lift hill that quickly follows a short launch. This booster launch would begin as soon as the coaster track goes vertical.
I never thought of your suggestions- great ideas! I like #2 since it would make such a statement. I've often thought they could build a 500' coaster with a vertical lift hill (Fahrenheit, Gerstlauer) or elevator lift (Cannibal, Kärnan).
The elevator lift might actually be the only way to achieve it, at least at CP with weather and space limitations. At that point they theoretically can go as high as they can build a skyscraper while considering ride time
Instead of a launch or lift hill, they could go with an elevator lift. Given the space limitations, it's likely the most feasible option for a coaster that large. Certainly would give them more flexibility with layout and location.
My god would I love a 500 foot circuit coaster. No strata BS! I would go there everyday 100% A 500 foot Diamond back layout or intimidator layout (not 305) even a Orion layout would be amazing!
I think Location 2 along the parking lot would make the most sense. And the views of the lake would be immaculate! Perhaps the lake could even tie into the theme of the coaster somehow.
It's gonna take alot of mods to keep Dragster , a new ride almost as tempting ...it can't be easy discussion in Sandusky ....I talked to a very high "park official " last year and they straight responded dead silence when I asked about a 500 ft coaster ....🤔
Great video, never thought about the maintenance building area for a coaster but had wish they would open it up as a walking trail from SV to Gemini. How about the space where Iron Dragon and TTD with Millennium Island now there is some space.
TTD needs to stay because of its extreme launch. If they built a 500 ft coaster without an equivalent or more extreme launch, TTD would remain my favorite.
My favorite idea would be if CP would get rid of Corkscrew, Power Tower, and all the rides in that area, and build a 500 foot polar coaster. The polar coaster would go right where power tower is, and it would also include an observation deck and drop tower, right at the center of the park. The polar coaster can pay homage to corkscrew by going outside the tower area at the end of the ride and go along Corkscrew's course including the iconic double corkscrew. This has been my favorite idea since I first visited the park and while I think it's unlikely to happen, you never know with Cedar Point.
It would be really sweet to be driving up the causeway and seeing a 500 foot coaster yes I know it would take away the views of the other coasters but there’s so many places to get good views of the coasters
Everyone knows Dragster is never reopening and its spot is by far the best spot for a new coaster, especially one you want to be the park’s marquee ride. Even before its accident it didn’t work half of the time. Like Son of Beast at Kings Island, despite the massive investment in both money and pride, the reasons to cut losses and get rid of it far outweigh the reasons to keep it at this point.
I'm all for an elevator lift - maybe something by Mack Rides? They're in the Hyper game now, and as a one-off, that would be interesting to see what they could come up with. Due to high winds, I think it's less likely here, but I could see King's Island break the 400-ft barrier one day.
If anybody can do it, it's the Point! I also do believe that it will happen because there's no way if other parks are building bigger that they don't decide to get in on the action. I'm with you on plot #1 because the park really needs more shade and it keeps the layout of the park nice and tight. Also, I've resubbed!
I think that location 2 is the most likely out of the three. Number one didn’t make all that sense because of the amount of space around it, because of Steve, Gemini, dragster, and magnum. I think if they remove the maintenance building would go and be for a new Gci woodie not a 500 ft coaster. Number 3 like Brandon said, would take away two many trees and would make Millie’s drop look way different. But I like the 2nd one because of the possibilities of it like it could be a bunch of airtime hills Or a low to the ground coaster and be the gate to gatekeeper or something like that. But I think if we do see a 500 ft coaster it would probably be at kings island because of the winds of Lake Erie. If I had to place a bet the first 500 ft coaster will be for a while
I think that if a t-rex shows up then maybe Energylandia will take the bait and really outdo everyone else. We already know that with the mine train, family coaster, and tilt, they will have 21 coasters by 2023, and with their relationship with vekoma, maybe they could be a sneak player for the manufacturer. They'll probably get a new vekoma flyer fist instead.
cedar point doesn't need to keep that giant surface lot, they could build a 7 story parking garage,which is a pretty common thing in any major city and bam, same parking capacity and a ton more space.
Another awesome vid Brian If anyone could build it Cedar point will SF just lost their mojo when it come to record breaking a polar coaster would be a great fit they could include a drop tower and even a restaurant or a spinning tower on top for a great view of the lake and park in the middle of CP.
Of course Cedar Point would build this giga coaster, they have a rep to protect. And seeing all the trouble with Top Thrill, this would be a logical replacement.
I wonder if Cedar Point could put some crazy 500 foot coaster in TTD’s spot, over the midway, and into Gemini’s plot too. It would mean taking out two coasters, but the end result would just be insane.
If the T-rex is still going to happen I don't see Cedar Point getting the first one. Other than the Intamin Blitz, they usually haven't wanted Cedar Point to be a pioneer park for the last several decades. Just like with the RMC I-Box, Intamin Mega coaster and Intamin Accelerator, I see them letting other parks experiment for a while and then build a record breaker once the model had proven itself effective. I could see a mid tier Cedar Fair park or a Herschend park getting the first T-rex as either a hypercoaster or a giga and then if it is reliable Cedar Point would build one and want it to break some serious record, possibly even the height record.
Location 2 is the employee parking lot. Except on predicted extremely heavy weekends where all the employees get bused in from the parking lot right before the causeway.
I feel like it’s possible to fit a 500 ft coaster in between Milli, idk but I think there is some space in the area. I’d love to see the Station go in the north side plot next to the Marina, expand it a bit and swerve between Milli without removing Snake River Falls and Thunder Canyon. How cool would that be?
They shouldn't do it at Cedar Point because Dragster is already there and a 500 foot coaster would not operate much at all because the wind up at the top be worse than Dragster.
your first location...NO!!! They'd have to remove the charming boneville skeletons...please don't. I've enjoyed that since going to the park in the 70's.
Does anyone remember before the pandemic cedar point made a video that show a large board and it had magnum, another coaster I can't remember the name it also had T Rex track and the number 500 with a ? mark after it. Cedarpoint is notorious for record breaking coasters. And I see them actually breaking the 500 ft barrier.
Hey Brandon, a few of your predictions from your Six Flags Over Texas video has recently taken place! HQ Spinsanity, the Amphitheater, and Rodeo attractions have been removed from the park map. In addition to many buildings getting a facelift or TLC. What’s really interesting is that not just the Rodeo ride, but also the buildings around it have been taken off the map. Interesting!
I joked around with Brandon in previous comments saying I think he works in the industry because of his all too well thought out and realistic predictions LOL
Hi, me again, just thinking: I know you'd be removing two classics, but imagine the station being on Iron dragons plot of land, with a massive airtime hill over dragsters launch and the midway, with a turnaround and cool elements on Corkscrew plot before a zero g stall back over dragster to finish with more elements in the woods. I feel like it would do good with traffic. You just have Millennium force in that area near Rougarou, and it won't further clog up the back with the masterpieces or the front with the crowd favorite B&Ms. If this were an intamin, I'd love to see something like a double mosasaurus roll over the midway to replace the corkscrews, or they could leave them like Alton towers did.
They may need a new 400 foot coaster ... Maybe go to LSM swing launch, replacing both Wicked Twister and TTD at the same time, (starting) in TTD's location, surely the most likely for 400' or 500'. But another idea would be station>track switch>reverse vertical cable lift, either 500' or ~250'+launch+boosters.
OK I've got it now: track-switched reverse vertical cable lift spike, 500 feet, into TTD's 420 foot spike. No long horizontal launch, reducing space and allowing restructuring of the queue etc. layout.
You're also right that #1 wouldn't really work. It's yucky back there and it needs to be cleaned up, but I don't think they would do it for a coaster. Option #2, the employees have it terrible enough as it is, that's the employee parking lot you would build in. It's bad enough having to park way out there and WALK all the way to the back if you're working in the back of the park. Option #3, yes; the removal trees would not be good. They are needed for shade and to make the area feel more "Frontier". Plus, people are still sad for losing their log ride, losing 2 more and having no water rides at all unless you go to CP Shores would make the families complain.
If the mythical falcons flight is built in the next few years, I’ll happily go. That said as an Ohio resident I’d much prefer cedar point focus on quality over sheer height. Another giga would be fantastic. Or even something small and strong like VCstr and MVRck
If Have A Few Ideas On Where Cedar Point Could Put A 500 Ft Ride 1 Take The Time Dragsters Closed To Expand The Height Of It 2 Make A Coaster That Goes Through Another Like In Between Top Thrill Dragster
I kind of agree but I feel like they will add a smaller coaster because they have been going crazy for years and I think they need to focus on the younger people visiting the park. But o think that the smaller coaster wouldn’t be expensive so I think that they would both be under construction on the same year or one would open and the other would start construction right after.
Location #1 is the cedar Fair planning and design building it most likely wouldn't be moved as there is no more office space to move those people. Which is also why a lot of Cedar Fair corporate employees are moving to the Charlotte NC office. The main corporate office is all full as well 1st floor is all Corp IT 2nd floor is accounting and 3rd floor is executive there's just no where left to move them
It should be noted that it is very well possible that Top Thrill Dragster is being moved/ and or being torn down. Given that, building the new worlds tallest coaster could replace it in the same spot being that it’s in the middle of the park and would be a staple to the parks progression.
Cedar point already has a 100, 200, 300, 400 footer... if they build a 500 it's gonna be INSANE. (TTD is down, what if they add some extra bracing and a faster launch and make it 80 feet taller?) Kingda Ka is basically the same thing and it only needs 45 more feet.
If anyone is going to build a 500 foot coaster, it would have to be the coaster capital of the world. But I've been hearing that there is 1 on the horizon in Japan. Time will tell
I find it unlikely that cedar point adds a 500 ft coaster. If they did I think it would be something like this: It would be a coaster in the same style as the polar coaster concept. A large tower with the roller coaster built on to it. The coaster itself would be manufactured by either gerslauer or zeirer and would feature a vertical lsm lift and 7-11 inversions. On top of the tower there would be a high end restaurant, giving great views of Lake Erie. And finally, the tallest drop tower in the world would also be built into the tower. I think that they could probably fit this sort of thing on Dragsters plot of land. To be honest, I think that this is the only way Cedar Point breaks 500 ft. They don't have a ton of space so I don't think they would blow a ton of it on a single attraction.
while I like the idea of a 500+ you really need the space to enjoy the speed, and none of the locations are big enough. you have to look how big Millinium footprint is, and your talking probably 30mph faster. If you remove Gemini and Top Thrill, you might have enough space but it would make more sense to keep station near where top thrill is. Along the causeway could be cool, but I don't know if they own the land. I am thinking a near 100mph B&M standing around 380ft tall, and with the right elements it will be everyones #1. the one thing to point out you can interact with existing rides, especially if it keeps a low profile and utilizes tunnels. While I would like to think they would go at least 400ft to be first Tera..Orion didn't make it to 300ft and is still a good ride. The competition between Six Flags and Cedar Point isn't there anymore, and while I believe we are going to see amazing things from Busch Gardens/Sea World, They don't really compete with Cedar Point because of distance.. Also how tall does a T-Rex have to be to be awesome, I am thinking 250ft and its my #1..
Location 1. Rather than run beside Gemini..go out and back with this monster. There is a massive plot of unused land at the farthest tip of the peninsula and everything in its path is on wheels or an RV site and can be relocated.
No they won't. They already have the second tallest in the world they ain't gonna build one at 500 ft dude. And it already gives them a massive headache.
Wait, you don't think B&M is capable of doing a 500 footer? They may turn it down due to riskiness though. They're notoriously conservative on the projects they take on.
Height doesn’t matter to me any more. G forces are more important! Seems like every B&M (boring&mild) giga I ride I’m about to fall asleep. Intamin’s Maverick and RMC coasters prove that height doesn’t matter.
It won't ever happen any time soon. They already have the second highest coaster and that's closed right now since maintenance stored the trains outside and it hurt someone. So it won't happen anytime soon.
Comparing a 500 ft coaster to top thrill dragster just because it's the tallest in the park is not accurate. It would not be a coaster with that kind of launch since intamin has already retired it. If it has a launch it would use different technologies. I suspect it would be a cable lift. I also believe it's just a matter of time because whatever park pulls off a reliable 500 ft coaster will reap the benefits big time.
I doubt it will be the next coaster. I would like a replacement for magnum with a mack hyper coaster. Since it's a hyper it will pay tribute to the original. Think a longer version of exodus at thorpe park.
I'm sure we're all thinking the obvious, in Dragsters spot if Dragster gets removed. I sure don't want to see Top Thrill go but I could picture an S&S compressed air launch 500 footer with a spiral drop to pay homage.
As awesome as it'd be, I just don't think a 500 ft coaster is the best idea for CP business wise at this point. They've already solidified themselves in the minds of most people as the destination for record breaking coasters, and most of those people don't follow the industry to see the latest coasters, they just remember that Cedar Point is wild and that's all the marketing team needs to work with. Especially with the limited space left on the peninsula, I feel like rounding out the park with stuff such as dark rides and full-service restaurants to make it more of a resort destination would be better for the future of the park business-wise. Again, they are already known country-wide as the park that breaks all the records and has all the crazy coasters; the park has made their point, and I feel a 500 ft coaster just to continue proving what they already proved wouldn't be the best way to spend that much money
It's too bad things are so expensive nowadays, they could build a monster in Dragster's spot. It would be cool to see a typical Giga layout but then a rolling into LSM launch up to a 500 foot top hat to pay homage to Dragster as a finale. They could market it as "is it a Giga or"? Whatever they end up calling a 500 foot tall ride. But, that's just me with my RCT or PC brain rolling.
They will not ever! Disney guy is CEO, he's gonna dismantle the park as much as possible before it's too late for anyone to notice what's really going on.
Location 1 seems too small unless your doing a shuttle or something way too similar to ttd. For something of that size the parking lot along the lake location seems more viable to host something like that. Thinking a silver star or hyperion situation, but i really don't think being next to the parking lot would be all that big of a deal. After all are you really looking out at the parking lot that much while riding gate keeper?
A 500' coaster can go just about anywhere because it just scales differently, you're probably talking at least a 7,000' or 8,000' ride. Almost no matter what it's going to have to weave throughout other rides, paths and open areas so it's best not to be attached to the thought of a large contiguous plot of land.
At what point would ride manufacturers and designers stop pushing the limits. I personally don’t believe I would ever ride a 500 ft attraction of any kind.
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While I agree that a polar coaster would likely never happen at cedar point, I actually think it could fit into the parks lineup. Most polar coaster concepts were more like complex’s right? A polar coaster could have room for a drop tower and an observation tower (emphasis on the observation tower, after CP removed space spiral they could use a new one in my opinion)
It's a tough pill to swallow but consider this, when Magnum reaches the end of it's operating life (probably sooner rather than later) CP calls Intamin and uses the plot of land to build "Magnum XL 500". It would probably extend north beyond where Magnum currently sits but this is totally doable. It would have a similar layout (just super sized) and in a tip of the hat to it's predecessor would still have a very airtime filled finale.
Intamin? Not a chance in hell. Intamin makes great rides for enthusiasts but not for parks. We already know how CF feels about them. And Hersheypark, if they were completely candid, might admit they’re none too happy, either. CF has had great luck with B&M. If CP are going to go big on their next major coaster-I’m not convinced this is where the park is going, but anyway-why not ask B&M to build something along the lines of Fury 325?
I hope Magnum never gets removed. It's one of my favorites.
Magnum will never be removed from the park. I'm so sick of people always saying this. 🙄
@@duanebooks8508 Eventually it will be. Probably not anytime soon, but one day it will go. It cannot literally live forever.
Oh snap that would be sick. I love magnum like the next guy but it will die someday long from now. Kings Island did a tribute to the Bat, so I feel this is total feasible and awesome. But I do have to doubt that cedar point would build something that large anytime soon. It's not financially practical to do record breakers anymore.
As cool as it would be, I’m pretty sure Tony Clark has already said CP has no interest in going any taller than Dragster ever again. The wind and weather out on the Point make it inhibitively difficult to make a ride that tall operate consistently
Wind would only be a factor if it was a launch lift like dragster. Why not a traditional lift hill?
Are you sure?
@@chrismalinowski654 Wind would be a major factor above 400 ft if the coaster would have any elements. The coaster would need to be designed to take elements with a speed variance due to wind where it can both easily navigate inversions and hills with the worst headwind, and not get too much speed from the worst tailwind to be too intense. Ensuring that kind of window on a coaster that's has no real world analog at the point is impossible.
So unless you want a coaster that's a 2 minute lift hill, a drop then a break run, it's not happening there.
A hyper layout that's 500 ft tall would be ideal. Massive camel back hills.
I would die to ride that. it'd be drop tower type air over and over again.
Magnum = 205 ft
Millennium= 310
Top thrill = 420
New coaster = 540
Cedar point do be like that though
I LOVE your speculations! They're always so thoughtful and make me excited about the future! I actually REALLY like the idea of a coaster (whether 500 foot or not) extending out into the peninsula parking lot. I think Cedar Point still has some incredible days ahead of itself!
Same here on both fronts
I agree! I'm getting to that age, 54, so I hope to see new coasters before my body gives out but I'm the type óf person that will just do whatever & deal with the pain for a week,,, lol. Going next month
#1 roller coaster hype man on TH-cam lol. I like location 1 the best as well. I would think a lot of future planning would put a heavy emphasis on crowd control. I also hope they consider RMCing Gemini before ever removing it. I'd feel less obligated to make a trip to California to ride Twisted Colossus 🤙
A T-Rex where Gemini is would be awesome.
I can’t imagine Cedar Point building a launched 500ft coaster with one launch. One of the issues with Top Thrill Dragster is the wind. Since this ride would be 100 feet taller, that would only amplify the issues. Maybe your idea of a booster launch could work, but I think there could be an amendment. Something I could maybe see working is if they mimicked something like Wicked at Lagoon with a launched vertical lift hill that quickly follows a short launch. This booster launch would begin as soon as the coaster track goes vertical.
Boosters could allow more correction for wind.
@@spentron1 yes they can
Shut up
If it ever happens I hope it isn't just a launch with a top hat like TTD or kingda ka but a coaster with an actual layout.
dude they literally just removed wicked twister, its clearly gonna be there
I never thought of your suggestions- great ideas! I like #2 since it would make such a statement. I've often thought they could build a 500' coaster with a vertical lift hill (Fahrenheit, Gerstlauer) or elevator lift (Cannibal, Kärnan).
Kärnan has a vertical lift, not elevator. Its a special case anyways, but I won't tell ;)
The elevator lift might actually be the only way to achieve it, at least at CP with weather and space limitations. At that point they theoretically can go as high as they can build a skyscraper while considering ride time
Instead of a launch or lift hill, they could go with an elevator lift. Given the space limitations, it's likely the most feasible option for a coaster that large. Certainly would give them more flexibility with layout and location.
Great idea. And much easer to offload passengers if there's an issue! Like a smaller backup elevator
I actually just became frightened and excited at the thought of waiting in a line queue 500 ft high 🤣
I'm 53 and I'd love to see q 500 foot coaster, before I'm to old to enjoy it.... SO LET'S WORK PEOPLE!!!
Love to see comments like these. Makes me hopeful for my future 😁
Yes my Husband & I, are literally kids at parks.. it's like time turns back. 😆
You're never too old to enjoy it.
I love the idea of a white track roller coaster with lights at night in location #2
My god would I love a 500 foot circuit coaster. No strata BS! I would go there everyday 100% A 500 foot Diamond back layout or intimidator layout (not 305) even a Orion layout would be amazing!
I think Location 2 along the parking lot would make the most sense. And the views of the lake would be immaculate! Perhaps the lake could even tie into the theme of the coaster somehow.
That would be awesome! I agree! Thanks for watching!!
Lake monster theme?
Lake Erie has the legend of a monster called Bessie.
@@Danrarbc Yeah that’s exactly what I was thinking, I just couldn’t remember the name haha!
It would help if they built a parking deck. A lot of space would then become available.
Yes, but that would cost an incredible amount of money! lol but I wish!
It's gonna take alot of mods to keep Dragster , a new ride almost as tempting ...it can't be easy discussion in Sandusky ....I talked to a very high "park official " last year and they straight responded dead silence when I asked about a 500 ft coaster ....🤔
🤔 thanks for sharing :)
We have to get a 400 for lift hill before a 500 so let’s keep things achievable!
Great video, never thought about the maintenance building area for a coaster but had wish they would open it up as a walking trail from SV to Gemini. How about the space where Iron Dragon and TTD with Millennium Island now there is some space.
TTD needs to stay because of its extreme launch. If they built a 500 ft coaster without an equivalent or more extreme launch, TTD would remain my favorite.
@@eddieholt8222 Imagine if TTD is down because they're gonna add 80 feet to it and give it a faster launch.
@@N9197U That would be cool, especially if it caused TTD to claim fastest coaster in the world again.
6:45 just imagine the views of beautiful parking lot on your left side on a record breaking coaster! lol good vid!
Thank you! 🎢
My favorite idea would be if CP would get rid of Corkscrew, Power Tower, and all the rides in that area, and build a 500 foot polar coaster. The polar coaster would go right where power tower is, and it would also include an observation deck and drop tower, right at the center of the park. The polar coaster can pay homage to corkscrew by going outside the tower area at the end of the ride and go along Corkscrew's course including the iconic double corkscrew. This has been my favorite idea since I first visited the park and while I think it's unlikely to happen, you never know with Cedar Point.
I like that idea
I personally think 500ft is overhyped. I’ll take a good woodie at the park!
They need a rotating lift GCI called Jumbo Jet
I'd loooove to see B&M make that monster
It would be really sweet to be driving up the causeway and seeing a 500 foot coaster yes I know it would take away the views of the other coasters but there’s so many places to get good views of the coasters
Everyone knows Dragster is never reopening and its spot is by far the best spot for a new coaster, especially one you want to be the park’s marquee ride. Even before its accident it didn’t work half of the time. Like Son of Beast at Kings Island, despite the massive investment in both money and pride, the reasons to cut losses and get rid of it far outweigh the reasons to keep it at this point.
If it happens, it's going on the Dragster plot
It could for sure!!
I'm all for an elevator lift - maybe something by Mack Rides? They're in the Hyper game now, and as a one-off, that would be interesting to see what they could come up with. Due to high winds, I think it's less likely here, but I could see King's Island break the 400-ft barrier one day.
If anybody can do it, it's the Point! I also do believe that it will happen because there's no way if other parks are building bigger that they don't decide to get in on the action. I'm with you on plot #1 because the park really needs more shade and it keeps the layout of the park nice and tight. Also, I've resubbed!
I think that location 2 is the most likely out of the three. Number one didn’t make all that sense because of the amount of space around it, because of Steve, Gemini, dragster, and magnum. I think if they remove the maintenance building would go and be for a new Gci woodie not a 500 ft coaster. Number 3 like Brandon said, would take away two many trees and would make Millie’s drop look way different. But I like the 2nd one because of the possibilities of it like it could be a bunch of airtime hills Or a low to the ground coaster and be the gate to gatekeeper or something like that. But I think if we do see a 500 ft coaster it would probably be at kings island because of the winds of Lake Erie. If I had to place a bet the first 500 ft coaster will be for a while
Interesting and smart idea on the wind factor!!!
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I think that if a t-rex shows up then maybe Energylandia will take the bait and really outdo everyone else. We already know that with the mine train, family coaster, and tilt, they will have 21 coasters by 2023, and with their relationship with vekoma, maybe they could be a sneak player for the manufacturer. They'll probably get a new vekoma flyer fist instead.
It's most definitely coming..whether it be magic mountain or cedar point. .we will all benefit from this. .if I had to guess I'd say cedar point...
I would love to see Intamin's vertical launch used. That would be easy to implement in a small footprint.
When I was stuck in the station on millennium force. A ride operator told me the same thing about the ride could’ve been 750 feet tall.
I would imagine that maybe Cedar Point will make more room for a 500ft tall roller coaster if they can make space for the new roller coaster.
they could add a parking garage and make it 4 or 5 stories high. Then use half the current parking lot for a ride.
Wow, that would be expensive, that could possibly work way down the road. It’s fun to think about. Thank you for watching.
cedar point doesn't need to keep that giant surface lot, they could build a 7 story parking garage,which is a pretty common thing in any major city and bam, same parking capacity and a ton more space.
Cedar Point will build a 500 foot tall coaster before a Six Flags park gets a giga.
Cedar Point won't build a 500 ft coaster anytime soon. They already have a second tallest coaster with gives them enough problems itself.
@@Octuly that was the pint of my comment
@@CoasterCheetah but the new management for six flags they might do one but my isn't likely a different model coaster
Build it over the main midway in front of park, even extending it over part of parking lot.
Another awesome vid Brian If anyone could build it Cedar point will SF just lost their mojo when it come to record breaking a polar coaster would be a great fit they could include a drop tower and even a restaurant or a spinning tower on top for a great view of the lake and park in the middle of CP.
Thank you! And great & interesting idea! Thank you for sharing!!
Yes!!!
They should build a 900 foot coaster that goes 250 MPH and has a 600 foot inverted loop. They could put it in camp snoopy.
That would be perfect and offer a 30in height requirement. Lol
@@TP_Recommendations actually laughing really hard at that cheers!
😂 enjoy my friend! Thank you for watching!
Is it just me or dose Millis music give anyone else chills?
I'd say number 3 because it would have the opportunity to be a twister layout
Of course Cedar Point would build this giga coaster, they have a rep to protect.
And seeing all the trouble with Top Thrill, this would be a logical replacement.
I wonder if Cedar Point could put some crazy 500 foot coaster in TTD’s spot, over the midway, and into Gemini’s plot too. It would mean taking out two coasters, but the end result would just be insane.
If the T-rex is still going to happen I don't see Cedar Point getting the first one. Other than the Intamin Blitz, they usually haven't wanted Cedar Point to be a pioneer park for the last several decades. Just like with the RMC I-Box, Intamin Mega coaster and Intamin Accelerator, I see them letting other parks experiment for a while and then build a record breaker once the model had proven itself effective. I could see a mid tier Cedar Fair park or a Herschend park getting the first T-rex as either a hypercoaster or a giga and then if it is reliable Cedar Point would build one and want it to break some serious record, possibly even the height record.
Location 2 is the employee parking lot. Except on predicted extremely heavy weekends where all the employees get bused in from the parking lot right before the causeway.
I feel like it’s possible to fit a 500 ft coaster in between Milli, idk but I think there is some space in the area. I’d love to see the Station go in the north side plot next to the Marina, expand it a bit and swerve between Milli without removing Snake River Falls and Thunder Canyon. How cool would that be?
I think they are reaching the limits already--Heck, I gray out on Millennium Force, so I can't imagine 200 feet more... pass out.
They shouldn't do it at Cedar Point because Dragster is already there and a 500 foot coaster would not operate much at all because the wind up at the top be worse than Dragster.
your first location...NO!!! They'd have to remove the charming boneville skeletons...please don't. I've enjoyed that since going to the park in the 70's.
Does anyone remember before the pandemic cedar point made a video that show a large board and it had magnum, another coaster I can't remember the name it also had T Rex track and the number 500 with a ? mark after it. Cedarpoint is notorious for record breaking coasters. And I see them actually breaking the 500 ft barrier.
Interesting Greg… 🤔
I remember that. :)
Hey Brandon, a few of your predictions from your Six Flags Over Texas video has recently taken place! HQ Spinsanity, the Amphitheater, and Rodeo attractions have been removed from the park map. In addition to many buildings getting a facelift or TLC. What’s really interesting is that not just the Rodeo ride, but also the buildings around it have been taken off the map. Interesting!
I joked around with Brandon in previous comments saying I think he works in the industry because of his all too well thought out and realistic predictions LOL
@@j.johnson7891 Hahaha I have no doubt! What was his reply?
@@praetorian1877 "i wish" or something like that 😅
@@j.johnson7891 Sounds like a miss direct. Haha
Hi, me again, just thinking: I know you'd be removing two classics, but imagine the station being on Iron dragons plot of land, with a massive airtime hill over dragsters launch and the midway, with a turnaround and cool elements on Corkscrew plot before a zero g stall back over dragster to finish with more elements in the woods. I feel like it would do good with traffic. You just have Millennium force in that area near Rougarou, and it won't further clog up the back with the masterpieces or the front with the crowd favorite B&Ms. If this were an intamin, I'd love to see something like a double mosasaurus roll over the midway to replace the corkscrews, or they could leave them like Alton towers did.
They may need a new 400 foot coaster ...
Maybe go to LSM swing launch, replacing both Wicked Twister and TTD at the same time, (starting) in TTD's location, surely the most likely for 400' or 500'.
But another idea would be station>track switch>reverse vertical cable lift, either 500' or ~250'+launch+boosters.
That would be wild!!! Thanks for sharing!!
OK I've got it now: track-switched reverse vertical cable lift spike, 500 feet, into TTD's 420 foot spike. No long horizontal launch, reducing space and allowing restructuring of the queue etc. layout.
You're also right that #1 wouldn't really work. It's yucky back there and it needs to be cleaned up, but I don't think they would do it for a coaster. Option #2, the employees have it terrible enough as it is, that's the employee parking lot you would build in. It's bad enough having to park way out there and WALK all the way to the back if you're working in the back of the park. Option #3, yes; the removal trees would not be good. They are needed for shade and to make the area feel more "Frontier". Plus, people are still sad for losing their log ride, losing 2 more and having no water rides at all unless you go to CP Shores would make the families complain.
A 500 foot coaster with just a top hat could easily be done with a launch as fast as formula rosa’s it doesn’t need a booster launch half way up
If the mythical falcons flight is built in the next few years, I’ll happily go. That said as an Ohio resident I’d much prefer cedar point focus on quality over sheer height. Another giga would be fantastic. Or even something small and strong like VCstr and MVRck
If Have A Few Ideas On Where Cedar Point Could Put A 500 Ft Ride
1 Take The Time Dragsters Closed To Expand The Height Of It
2 Make A Coaster That Goes Through Another Like In Between Top Thrill Dragster
Both options seem possible honestly… if the park wanted to build that Large…
I kind of agree but I feel like they will add a smaller coaster because they have been going crazy for years and I think they need to focus on the younger people visiting the park. But o think that the smaller coaster wouldn’t be expensive so I think that they would both be under construction on the same year or one would open and the other would start construction right after.
Location #1 is the cedar Fair planning and design building it most likely wouldn't be moved as there is no more office space to move those people. Which is also why a lot of Cedar Fair corporate employees are moving to the Charlotte NC office. The main corporate office is all full as well 1st floor is all Corp IT 2nd floor is accounting and 3rd floor is executive there's just no where left to move them
Location #2 for sure!
It should be noted that it is very well possible that Top Thrill Dragster is being moved/ and or being torn down. Given that, building the new worlds tallest coaster could replace it in the same spot being that it’s in the middle of the park and would be a staple to the parks progression.
Cedar point already has a 100, 200, 300, 400 footer... if they build a 500 it's gonna be INSANE. (TTD is down, what if they add some extra bracing and a faster launch and make it 80 feet taller?)
Kingda Ka is basically the same thing and it only needs 45 more feet.
I really would love for them to do it. If it’s possible. Thank you for watching! 🎢
If anyone is going to build a 500 foot coaster, it would have to be the coaster capital of the world. But I've been hearing that there is 1 on the horizon in Japan. Time will tell
I find it unlikely that cedar point adds a 500 ft coaster. If they did I think it would be something like this:
It would be a coaster in the same style as the polar coaster concept. A large tower with the roller coaster built on to it. The coaster itself would be manufactured by either gerslauer or zeirer and would feature a vertical lsm lift and 7-11 inversions.
On top of the tower there would be a high end restaurant, giving great views of Lake Erie.
And finally, the tallest drop tower in the world would also be built into the tower.
I think that they could probably fit this sort of thing on Dragsters plot of land. To be honest, I think that this is the only way Cedar Point breaks 500 ft. They don't have a ton of space so I don't think they would blow a ton of it on a single attraction.
im not riding a 500ft coaster. at some point we gotta stop. bigger does not always mean better.
while I like the idea of a 500+ you really need the space to enjoy the speed, and none of the locations are big enough. you have to look how big Millinium footprint is, and your talking probably 30mph faster. If you remove Gemini and Top Thrill, you might have enough space but it would make more sense to keep station near where top thrill is. Along the causeway could be cool, but I don't know if they own the land. I am thinking a near 100mph B&M standing around 380ft tall, and with the right elements it will be everyones #1. the one thing to point out you can interact with existing rides, especially if it keeps a low profile and utilizes tunnels. While I would like to think they would go at least 400ft to be first Tera..Orion didn't make it to 300ft and is still a good ride. The competition between Six Flags and Cedar Point isn't there anymore, and while I believe we are going to see amazing things from Busch Gardens/Sea World, They don't really compete with Cedar Point because of distance.. Also how tall does a T-Rex have to be to be awesome, I am thinking 250ft and its my #1..
Yeah I think a 250 ft tall would be a good guess for a T-rex.
Yes please!!! 🙏🏼
We can wish right? Thanks for watching.
Location 1. Rather than run beside Gemini..go out and back with this monster. There is a massive plot of unused land at the farthest tip of the peninsula and everything in its path is on wheels or an RV site and can be relocated.
8:35 u also have to consider that you got rid of the water rides which is something I'd avoid,
Location 2, yes CP will most definitely build a ride of such size. The question is, when? Good video!!
No they won't. They already have the second tallest in the world they ain't gonna build one at 500 ft dude. And it already gives them a massive headache.
@@Octuly at the moment no one knows for sure but I hope so.
Well, that coaster is using 20 year old technology. So that’s a major reason why it suffers from so much downtime: :)
@@TP_Recommendations I agree!!
CP isn't gonna build a 500ft coaster with the issues they had with a 420ft coaster in TTD! Also with inflation the cost would be astronomically HIGH!
Wait, you don't think B&M is capable of doing a 500 footer? They may turn it down due to riskiness though. They're notoriously conservative on the projects they take on.
Commenting for the algorithm. Keep it up Brandon!
It also was the first to be 100 feet with Gemini
Height doesn’t matter to me any more. G forces are more important! Seems like every B&M (boring&mild) giga I ride I’m about to fall asleep. Intamin’s Maverick and RMC coasters prove that height doesn’t matter.
Give me maverick over Millie anyday!
It won't ever happen any time soon. They already have the second highest coaster and that's closed right now since maintenance stored the trains outside and it hurt someone. So it won't happen anytime soon.
Comparing a 500 ft coaster to top thrill dragster just because it's the tallest in the park is not accurate. It would not be a coaster with that kind of launch since intamin has already retired it. If it has a launch it would use different technologies. I suspect it would be a cable lift. I also believe it's just a matter of time because whatever park pulls off a reliable 500 ft coaster will reap the benefits big time.
Honestly, I would take a great GCI woodie over this. However, both wouldn't be bad.
8:18 Location #3 provides us a 500' roller coaster that includes a high protein snack after sunset. (Just like Millennium Force)
I think a 400 foot tall lift hill T-rex is possible
I think cedar point might expand their peninsula over the next few years if given time
thats what i always said! hopefully but idk
Location 3
I Like Number 3 Spot But Spot 1 Also Great What About 750 RollerCoaster made That Would Be Crazy Good
Imagine a compact 500 ft RMC Raptor
they are definitely removing top thrill dragster
Does anyone know what’s up with that huge section of the lake they drained and added roads around along the causeway?
I wish I knew
I doubt it will be the next coaster. I would like a replacement for magnum with a mack hyper coaster. Since it's a hyper it will pay tribute to the original. Think a longer version of exodus at thorpe park.
I'm sure we're all thinking the obvious, in Dragsters spot if Dragster gets removed. I sure don't want to see Top Thrill go but I could picture an S&S compressed air launch 500 footer with a spiral drop to pay homage.
As awesome as it'd be, I just don't think a 500 ft coaster is the best idea for CP business wise at this point. They've already solidified themselves in the minds of most people as the destination for record breaking coasters, and most of those people don't follow the industry to see the latest coasters, they just remember that Cedar Point is wild and that's all the marketing team needs to work with. Especially with the limited space left on the peninsula, I feel like rounding out the park with stuff such as dark rides and full-service restaurants to make it more of a resort destination would be better for the future of the park business-wise. Again, they are already known country-wide as the park that breaks all the records and has all the crazy coasters; the park has made their point, and I feel a 500 ft coaster just to continue proving what they already proved wouldn't be the best way to spend that much money
It's too bad things are so expensive nowadays, they could build a monster in Dragster's spot. It would be cool to see a typical Giga layout but then a rolling into LSM launch up to a 500 foot top hat to pay homage to Dragster as a finale. They could market it as "is it a Giga or"? Whatever they end up calling a 500 foot tall ride.
But, that's just me with my RCT or PC brain rolling.
They will not ever! Disney guy is CEO, he's gonna dismantle the park as much as possible before it's too late for anyone to notice what's really going on.
Ok but the CP fanboys will be livid if the TTD change is just the LSM launch and maybe a few elements of track
Location 1 seems too small unless your doing a shuttle or something way too similar to ttd. For something of that size the parking lot along the lake location seems more viable to host something like that. Thinking a silver star or hyperion situation, but i really don't think being next to the parking lot would be all that big of a deal. After all are you really looking out at the parking lot that much while riding gate keeper?
These people really be hyping them self's up for something that will never happen lmfao
btw cedar point was not the first 400 foot tall coster it was magic mountain superman
I think it's funny how there are two number ones🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
A 500' coaster can go just about anywhere because it just scales differently, you're probably talking at least a 7,000' or 8,000' ride. Almost no matter what it's going to have to weave throughout other rides, paths and open areas so it's best not to be attached to the thought of a large contiguous plot of land.
At what point would ride manufacturers and designers stop pushing the limits. I personally don’t believe I would ever ride a 500 ft attraction of any kind.