Nice review!! As an i5 Slate owner and Ipad pro owner, it is nice to see a review that doesn't exploit the limitations but rather shows the capabilities of this machine.
Bought and used the core m slate... Zippy with no issues at all. I was very pleasantly surprised because I originally didn't get one due to bad reviews. I was so wrong. Everything I did just worked.
Yeah, I never tried that model. But folks were trying to compare that against the iPad pro.... Which had the performance of an i7 and it's twice the price! What do you use it for?
Thanks For The Awesome Review!! I Have The Pixel Slate i7 And It Flies!! All The Sad Reviews Have Been Based On The Slate Running The Low End Celeron.....I Wouldnt Own A Windows Laptop Running A Celeron. So Im Always surprised that anyone would buy the celeron version and expect top not performance......
That's not entirely true. Google sent out the i5 model for review. There were software issues on the Overview menu in tablet mode at launch. They've since been fixed.
Most of the problems were people's expectations. They love iPads, overlook it's failings and expect all tablets to operate like iPads or they're trash. You get a proper desktop browser that works well with your finger. IPad with IPadOS still doesn't offer this.
I think Pixel Slate is like 2 years ahead of everything and itself. I mean all the concepts are placed strategically but yet not realised. The world is moving towards the Cloud. Thus entire operating system is based on cloud. With Crostini, it becomes a great OS for both web devs as well as other devs. With Android apps, it has opened a host of services and I could see full desktop class games and other apps coming to Google Play. But, you probably shouldn't buy this device now. Why? Because all these concepts are not yet fully baked and not matured at all. It would take at least two years when almost every native/desktop based task will be migrated to the cloud. Cloud gaming is coming, I think in at least two years, it could go mainstream. Chrome OS would be the best OS for a cloud based gaming service. Google could also push gaming on Chromebooks and ARM chips are getting better as well. Heavy duty video, audio and photo editing has yet to come to mobile devices as well as these services getting entirely moved to the cloud. Google Cloud has paid services which even allows huge studios to design and render Blockbuster quality movies, entirely in the cloud. This could come to professional market pretty soon, after that. Android apps are still buggy, it would take at least two years for them to be properly optimized for Chromebooks, given that consumers adopt Chromebooks rapidly. Microsoft is coming up with Chrome OS like Windows lite OS. Apple is moving towards one app platform for their entire lineup of devices. These all concepts are nothing new but Chrome OS is strategically placed to gain the most in a cloud and mobile first world.
you can get desktop version just by holding down the refresh button their a lot of secret features that can fix those limited issues you claim without runarounds
Excellent videos thank you for all the information. Only question I have is why not buy a Macbook Air 13 (2018) for $1049 right now at Best Buy or another powerful laptop like the Razer Stealth 13 instead of spending $1,500 for the Slate w/ i7? I am just asking to see if there are any benefits that I am missing because I also love using tablets instead of laptops when possible. I am also in IT so it is important for me to remote into my workstation for more power from anywhere.
The benefit is that its that the OS is super optimized it has no Fans.... Its small, I know the Air is small too. But this can handle IT/Photo culling which are my main uses. It tethers automatically via bluetooth to my phone the second I power it on. It just works (for me)
It's nice to see a review on the slate a couple of months later through updates. The one that got the most critique was the m3 processor version which isn't available to buy anymore. The i5 and i7 versions were much better.
People keep saying the iPad is faster but the problem is... How does that extra speed and power benefit the end user day to day? If it doesn't, it's a mute point. I think what the slate, specifically chrome os, represents is the evolution necessary to make tablets viable laptop replacements.
Agreed, the CPU/GPU on the iPad are great.... but you cant really use them. The apps are limited, you cant hook up two monitors and run apps on them. I think the lower-end ipads make more sense.
The laginess reviewers conmented on was mostly in the overview multitask window. I believe it's now fixed. That and reviewers seem to think tablets have to operate like iPads or they're trash. When in fact ChromeOS is a decent tablet os.
Spotify is very buggy on ChromeOS (can take ages to load, freezes) in tablet or laptop mode. Facebook looks terrible, it's stuck in a phone shape and won't expand to fill the screen. Wikipedia the text has gaps because it forced into a tablet shape. Yes lots run well, Netflix in particular, but lots don't. I'm a fan of ChromeOS but Android apps still need work. ChromeOS is still best with its original intention: Web Apps.
Hi - referring to your iPad x1 video I thought it might be possible to do the office stuff you mentioned via jump desktop on the client / your desktop computer remotely - does this make sense - or is the jump scenario too laggy ?
Please do a comparison of i7 and i5. Also some of the reviews were self inflicted. Google sent the Celeron models to reviewer, they should fire the person who made that decision. Especially since I was using my i5 pixel book watching those reviews
@@allstarkidXD this is Apple.... They won't change mouse and external file access. For the price of the Pro.... You can get something more capable. The lower end iPads are a great deal.
Has the slate improved in the software department? Debating between these 2 now that google dropped the price on the slate. Btw I have a pixel phone and am not sure how well it plays with the iPad
What's your main use? The Slate runs Android apps really well. It runs Chrome with all it's extensions.... It plays nice with external peripherals. The iPaq is a great media consumption device.
@@flowingcolor Media consumption and mainly chrome browser stuff for work. Was hoping the software has improved a lot since the early reviews were so bad
@@ramolifee it's very stable.... The bad reviews were for the very cheap release. If you need a desktop class browser the Slate is it. I like the firm factor of the iPad but it's too limited did it's price. Unless you get the iPad air. Another thing to mention. There's no cases for the Slate... I think there's one for $70 which is insane. Skip the brydge keyboard. Use the Google one as it doesn't stress the screen.
I did, I switched to i7. Mainly for future proving... They behave the same, I dont think you can really tell which is which. If its too much of a difference in price you might want to stay on the i5. I got a great deal on the i7 so I couldn't refuse it.
@@flowingcolor Okay, thanks. I was curious if the 16GB of RAM vs the 8 made a big difference in photo editing, which I also do. I may still make the jump, for future growth. Just trying to get a feel for the potential benefits.
you clearly don't understand the ord gpu. by it loading the pictures saying it isn't faster by too much is eh... ike if you do 3D stuff or AR pixel slate is pretty kuch screwed. That's more GPU.
Hi, A couple of questions, I’m looking to switch from my iPad Pro 12.9 2017 to the i5 or i7 Slate (mainly due to hard drive access etc). What kind of battery life are you getting with the i5 and i7? Also, is the version of Lightroom for the Slate a Chrome Os version, or the Android version, and how does the version compare to the iPad Pro version. This will be the software I’d use the most. Many thanks for your time. :) Cheers, Shane.
Hey Shane, the battery life is a little less than the iPad Pro. Around a full day of work. It uses the Android version of Lightroom but I thinks a special build for the Slate. The iPad Pro graphics engine seems a little faster. But if you need to use peripherals and have more software choices the Slate is great. It replaced my laptops and tablet. What are your main uses?
Alberto - thanks for responding so quick. I use my iPad Pro for everything - so the main apps on it that I would need are Google Docs or MS Word, Adobe Lightroom CC mobile, Adobe Photoshop Mix and Fix, Polarr, Facebook, Twitter, and Flickr. I use Affinity Designer and Photo - but can live without them. I use Adobe Lightroom the most - that is the key app. As long as it’s as fast on the Slate than the iPad than it sounds good. I use Pixelrights for my website, I can do most of the layout on the iPad but for a few things I still have to use a device with a full browser right than a ‘mobile’ version. That along with the lack of a full file structure is why I was looking at a device like the Slate. I prefer the tablet form rather than a laptop, and ideally don’t want to go to Windows, I work in IT Support and have enough of Windows in my day job :)
@@shaneferguson2856 the cool thing is that it runs "real" chrome so if you use any extensions they will carry over. Any website will display as desktop with all the tools. I felt very limited by browsers on iOS
@@shaneferguson2856 you dont need to switch, Ipad support external hard drive after iPadOS update, beside that iPad still does better than pixelslate and had way more app
@@sairan1364I won't argue it. No mouse support this time around for iOS13 or ipados... They could make the pro into a powerhouse by enabling some features. But they don't because they have to sell MacBooks.
Nice review!! As an i5 Slate owner and Ipad pro owner, it is nice to see a review that doesn't exploit the limitations but rather shows the capabilities of this machine.
which do you prefer?
Geonade the slate can do *WAY* more but the iPad is probably faster and smoother and cheater
That was a great review man thumbs up! For you
Bought and used the core m slate... Zippy with no issues at all. I was very pleasantly surprised because I originally didn't get one due to bad reviews. I was so wrong. Everything I did just worked.
Yeah, I never tried that model. But folks were trying to compare that against the iPad pro.... Which had the performance of an i7 and it's twice the price! What do you use it for?
@@flowingcolor browsing, media, light computing, email and logging into work databases when needed.
When it originally came out of lagged really bad, and the Celeron didn't help, 3 months after it got updates that bad it run nice and smooth.
Thanks For The Awesome Review!! I Have The Pixel Slate i7 And It Flies!! All The Sad Reviews Have Been Based On The Slate Running The Low End Celeron.....I Wouldnt Own A Windows Laptop Running A Celeron. So Im Always surprised that anyone would buy the celeron version and expect top not performance......
Specially when they are comparing it with the iPad Pro which has an i7 level CPU. I agree with you.
@@flowingcolor yeah I know right. Muppets.
That's not entirely true. Google sent out the i5 model for review. There were software issues on the Overview menu in tablet mode at launch. They've since been fixed.
Most of the problems were people's expectations. They love iPads, overlook it's failings and expect all tablets to operate like iPads or they're trash. You get a proper desktop browser that works well with your finger. IPad with IPadOS still doesn't offer this.
Love my i7 as well! Got it for $899 with free keyboard and pen!
Wow! Thank you very much for thorough reviews! Highly appreciated :)
Thanks for a great and informative video. Did you buy any Google Pixel Slate i7 and if so what is your impression?
Didn't you deliberately pick an iPhone app to show how bad iPad apps are when there are thousands of iPad apps?
I think Pixel Slate is like 2 years ahead of everything and itself. I mean all the concepts are placed strategically but yet not realised.
The world is moving towards the Cloud. Thus entire operating system is based on cloud.
With Crostini, it becomes a great OS for both web devs as well as other devs.
With Android apps, it has opened a host of services and I could see full desktop class games and other apps coming to Google Play.
But, you probably shouldn't buy this device now. Why? Because all these concepts are not yet fully baked and not matured at all.
It would take at least two years when almost every native/desktop based task will be migrated to the cloud. Cloud gaming is coming, I think in at least two years, it could go mainstream. Chrome OS would be the best OS for a cloud based gaming service. Google could also push gaming on Chromebooks and ARM chips are getting better as well.
Heavy duty video, audio and photo editing has yet to come to mobile devices as well as these services getting entirely moved to the cloud. Google Cloud has paid services which even allows huge studios to design and render Blockbuster quality movies, entirely in the cloud. This could come to professional market pretty soon, after that.
Android apps are still buggy, it would take at least two years for them to be properly optimized for Chromebooks, given that consumers adopt Chromebooks rapidly.
Microsoft is coming up with Chrome OS like Windows lite OS. Apple is moving towards one app platform for their entire lineup of devices. These all concepts are nothing new but Chrome OS is strategically placed to gain the most in a cloud and mobile first world.
@@dohoof I am sorry, but I don't understand a thing about what you said.
you can get desktop version just by holding down the refresh button their a lot of secret features that can fix those limited issues you claim without runarounds
What are you talking about? What secret features?
Alberto th-cam.com/video/y5tgaH9_ghk/w-d-xo.html their also more features if you want me to send you more links
Excellent videos thank you for all the information. Only question I have is why not buy a Macbook Air 13 (2018) for $1049 right now at Best Buy or another powerful laptop like the Razer Stealth 13 instead of spending $1,500 for the Slate w/ i7? I am just asking to see if there are any benefits that I am missing because I also love using tablets instead of laptops when possible. I am also in IT so it is important for me to remote into my workstation for more power from anywhere.
The benefit is that its that the OS is super optimized it has no Fans.... Its small, I know the Air is small too. But this can handle IT/Photo culling which are my main uses. It tethers automatically via bluetooth to my phone the second I power it on. It just works (for me)
It's nice to see a review on the slate a couple of months later through updates. The one that got the most critique was the m3 processor version which isn't available to buy anymore. The i5 and i7 versions were much better.
You're mean the Celeron processor got the most critiques and isn't available.
People keep saying the iPad is faster but the problem is... How does that extra speed and power benefit the end user day to day? If it doesn't, it's a mute point.
I think what the slate, specifically chrome os, represents is the evolution necessary to make tablets viable laptop replacements.
Agreed, the CPU/GPU on the iPad are great.... but you cant really use them. The apps are limited, you cant hook up two monitors and run apps on them. I think the lower-end ipads make more sense.
Alberto If you're not those people who uses AR for work. I agree. But like devs. it's be crucial to have such horsepower when doing coding.
The laginess reviewers conmented on was mostly in the overview multitask window. I believe it's now fixed. That and reviewers seem to think tablets have to operate like iPads or they're trash. When in fact ChromeOS is a decent tablet os.
why does my head say surface pro or Lenovo X1
I dont want a fan..... or Windows. I have Surface Pro 4 and Surfacebook 2 and they barely get used these days.....
Why Pixel Slate over Surface Pro?
great content
Spotify is very buggy on ChromeOS (can take ages to load, freezes) in tablet or laptop mode. Facebook looks terrible, it's stuck in a phone shape and won't expand to fill the screen. Wikipedia the text has gaps because it forced into a tablet shape. Yes lots run well, Netflix in particular, but lots don't. I'm a fan of ChromeOS but Android apps still need work. ChromeOS is still best with its original intention: Web Apps.
Hi - referring to your iPad x1 video I thought it might be possible to do the office stuff you mentioned via jump desktop on the client / your desktop computer remotely - does this make sense - or is the jump scenario too laggy ?
Please do a comparison of i7 and i5. Also some of the reviews were self inflicted. Google sent the Celeron models to reviewer, they should fire the person who made that decision. Especially since I was using my i5 pixel book watching those reviews
I have an iPad Pro👌👌, but i need iOS 13
I sold mine.... iOS won't bring what I need. Apple needs to sell MacBooks
Alberto should’ve waited for ios 13 its gonna bring a huge change for the iPad Pro
@@allstarkidXD this is Apple.... They won't change mouse and external file access. For the price of the Pro.... You can get something more capable. The lower end iPads are a great deal.
Alberto what can i get something other than ipad pro 2018 For note taking via pen,video consumption and presentations? Also slim bazels preferred
Alberto YES FINALLY SOMEONE WHO KNOWS APPE WONT CHNAGE THE IPAD AT ALL WITH IOS 13! GET A MACBOOK INSETAD
amazing!! thanks you!!
Has the slate improved in the software department? Debating between these 2 now that google dropped the price on the slate. Btw I have a pixel phone and am not sure how well it plays with the iPad
What's your main use? The Slate runs Android apps really well. It runs Chrome with all it's extensions.... It plays nice with external peripherals. The iPaq is a great media consumption device.
@@flowingcolor Media consumption and mainly chrome browser stuff for work. Was hoping the software has improved a lot since the early reviews were so bad
@@ramolifee it's very stable.... The bad reviews were for the very cheap release. If you need a desktop class browser the Slate is it. I like the firm factor of the iPad but it's too limited did it's price. Unless you get the iPad air. Another thing to mention. There's no cases for the Slate... I think there's one for $70 which is insane. Skip the brydge keyboard. Use the Google one as it doesn't stress the screen.
Did you switch to the i7? I have the i5, and I have been wondering if I should return for the i7 for the same reasons as you.
I did, I switched to i7. Mainly for future proving... They behave the same, I dont think you can really tell which is which. If its too much of a difference in price you might want to stay on the i5. I got a great deal on the i7 so I couldn't refuse it.
@@flowingcolor Okay, thanks. I was curious if the 16GB of RAM vs the 8 made a big difference in photo editing, which I also do. I may still make the jump, for future growth. Just trying to get a feel for the potential benefits.
Tyler Mikulka are you on Reddit too?
@@flowingcolor I am indeed.
@@MegaWholeMilk I figured it was you :) on other news I just got the Brydge keyboard for $99 and I'm selling the Google one. You should check it out!
Compare it with macbook air
The MacBook Air is not a solid state machine. It has fans no touch screen. It's slower in Lightroom.
you clearly don't understand the ord gpu. by it loading the pictures saying it isn't faster by too much is eh... ike if you do 3D stuff or AR pixel slate is pretty kuch screwed. That's more GPU.
Do you think the slate with a m3 processor is good enough?
I've only used the i5 & i7 and those two are great. I've seen some bad reviews for the m3. I guess it depends on what you're going to do with it?
Hi, A couple of questions, I’m looking to switch from my iPad Pro 12.9 2017 to the i5 or i7 Slate (mainly due to hard drive access etc). What kind of battery life are you getting with the i5 and i7? Also, is the version of Lightroom for the Slate a Chrome Os version, or the Android version, and how does the version compare to the iPad Pro version. This will be the software I’d use the most. Many thanks for your time. :) Cheers, Shane.
Hey Shane, the battery life is a little less than the iPad Pro. Around a full day of work. It uses the Android version of Lightroom but I thinks a special build for the Slate. The iPad Pro graphics engine seems a little faster. But if you need to use peripherals and have more software choices the Slate is great. It replaced my laptops and tablet. What are your main uses?
Alberto - thanks for responding so quick. I use my iPad Pro for everything - so the main apps on it that I would need are Google Docs or MS Word, Adobe Lightroom CC mobile, Adobe Photoshop Mix and Fix, Polarr, Facebook, Twitter, and Flickr. I use Affinity Designer and Photo - but can live without them. I use Adobe Lightroom the most - that is the key app. As long as it’s as fast on the Slate than the iPad than it sounds good. I use Pixelrights for my website, I can do most of the layout on the iPad but for a few things I still have to use a device with a full browser right than a ‘mobile’ version. That along with the lack of a full file structure is why I was looking at a device like the Slate. I prefer the tablet form rather than a laptop, and ideally don’t want to go to Windows, I work in IT Support and have enough of Windows in my day job :)
@@shaneferguson2856 the cool thing is that it runs "real" chrome so if you use any extensions they will carry over. Any website will display as desktop with all the tools. I felt very limited by browsers on iOS
@@flowingcolor Great stuff :) Cheers for the help. Are you planning to do more Slate videos?
@@shaneferguson2856 you dont need to switch, Ipad support external hard drive after iPadOS update, beside that iPad still does better than pixelslate and had way more app
The hate on the slate is from this video th-cam.com/video/HOh6d_r63Bw/w-d-xo.html xD
Oof
Goodluck switching 😂
It's done. Much more capable. iPad sold!
Alberto goood for you. My IPad Pro is awwesome especially iOS 13 is a holy heck!!
@@sairan1364I won't argue it. No mouse support this time around for iOS13 or ipados... They could make the pro into a powerhouse by enabling some features. But they don't because they have to sell MacBooks.
Alberto waitt.. actually mouse support is in accessibility lol.
in ios 13...