This was helpfull. I clearly have a babyplant off P.Sodiroi. It was a bit hard to identify when its a small babyplant but the caracteristic you mentioned was there. Thank you😊🌻
What should I call my sodiroi aff then? It feels strange calling it a sodiroi, when it looks more like a mamei :O I still love it tho the silver is still quite striking
Some people call them ‘Philodendron Silver Pastazanum’ or ‘Philodendron Peltatum’ but really it’s an undescribed species that hasn’t been properly classified yet!
This was informative. I just bought a Sodiroi (small rooted, propagation). I hope its a Sodiroi and not a Sodirni :( Do you know the differences between these two? :(
Sodirini are smaller Sodiroi with stunted growth, said to have been created by man. They won't ever get large leaves or truly resemble mature Sodiroi leaves. There are many more Sodirini on the market than Sodiroi it seems, but you might be fine just have to wait!
@@iAdrianT I would massively recommend it. Leaf size will increase marginally with time without one but for best results I 100% recommend you either make or buy a sphagnum moss pole. Avoid coir as it doesn’t work as well.
Thanks for the video. I'm always trying to figure out how to tell them apart. Here's the kicker, I have one that was purchased as aff (from Ecuagenera) and it definitely matches your aff criteria. I have a second that was purchased as true Sodiroi. It has three leaves and is somewhat immature. There is no pink center but the stems also have no reddish hue or bumpy texture where they meet the leaf. I'm not exactly sure now if that one is true sodiroi.
Hey Kyra, I would give it some time as I could be led to believe that the red petiole may be a maturity issue. If you message me on Instagram @waterfallplants and show me some photos of your 'true' Sodiroi I might be able to help with an ID. Thanks!
@@tomwaterfall5423 Thank you so much, Tom! I would love that. Unfortunately I don't do FB or Insta. So I'm at a bit of a disadvantage there. If we can figure out another way, I'd sure love a second opinion!
@@kyrad6543 Thanks Kyra, just had a look. I am not 100% sure on these but I think you could have a Philodendron Peltatum on your hands there. It has the leaf/lobe shape (close together and elongated) combined with the smooth green petiole that gives me enough confidence to say that it is not likely at all to be a true Sodiroi. Although lacking the red sinus, P. Peltatum is another species sometimes sold as a Sodiroi aff. I don't believe P. Peltatum has been properly described and there is little information about it online. Have a Google and see what you think but that's my best guess! I am going to consult a knowledgeable friend for you to get a second opinion too.
Are there any Price differences between the aff and the true one? Somebody gifted me a sodiroi and I just found out it’s a real one 😂 thank you for your help!!
Hey Gioia, yes there are quite considerable price differences, you are very lucky! True plants are much harder to come by, particularly in the UK/Europe, and usually command a much higher price. In my experience, unrooted cuttings go for between £100 and £250 depending on the size.
So I have a sodiroi aff, I haven’t found too many folks with this plant but mine has two leaves and is VERY bright colored/yellow and one leaf is drooping heavy. I’d love mine to be a darker color! Any advice? I’ve had it for a week and I can tell it’s slowly deteriorating. :(
Get it out of any bright light, as over-exposure to grow lights can cause the leaves to turn lighter and yellower. You might lose the 'drooping' leaf if it's a recent import or has recently arrived in your care. If I was you I would focus on getting some new roots going by potting it up into some sphagnum moss soaked with a drop of Superthrive and getting it onto a heat mat. I'm actually going to lose the Sodiroi leaf shown in this video due to the plant arriving with pests, but I'm not too worried as it's putting roots out which is most important. Message me on Instagram @waterfallplants if you want any further help. Good luck!
@@tomwaterfall5423 So I actually went into work today and the droopy leaf perked back up. Don't know why. I don't use any grow lights. My plant was already pretty root-y, it had a load of roots, I got it from a FB group. Its just super yellow still. Hopefully moving it into a shady spot in my work space will help it darken with time. Just needs to acclimate I guess.
Fantastic explanation! Can I request a future video explaining the difference between White Wizard, White Princess and White Knight, please?
This was helpfull.
I clearly have a babyplant off P.Sodiroi.
It was a bit hard to identify when its a small babyplant but the caracteristic you mentioned was there.
Thank you😊🌻
Hi tom, thanks again for identifying my plants 🌱 and this video is awesome 👏🏽
Thanks for letting me use your photos Mella :-)
currently looking for a true sodiroi and this has been a super helpful guide!
I am glad you found it useful!
Great video. Thanks.
New sub. 👍🇦🇺
This is so informative, many thanks!
Also
True form has a D shaped petiole. Aff has a round shape.
thank you for the explanation!!
There's are fabulous. If you could do Mamei vs plowmanii.
would be interested in a video about verrucosum varieties!
Yes that's a good idea. I need to get my head around them myself first though haha, so many out there!
Thank you!!
Make more video's!
What does “AFF” mean?
This explains it pretty well: www.houzz.com/discussions/1972264/what-does-aff-mean
What should I call my sodiroi aff then? It feels strange calling it a sodiroi, when it looks more like a mamei :O I still love it tho the silver is still quite striking
Some people call them ‘Philodendron Silver Pastazanum’ or ‘Philodendron Peltatum’ but really it’s an undescribed species that hasn’t been properly classified yet!
So basically the Sodiroi aff that’s being sold around is a Pastazanum Silver….?
Mine was sold to me as pastazanum silver too, and it's the very same that is shown here as the sodiroi aff.
This was informative. I just bought a Sodiroi (small rooted, propagation). I hope its a Sodiroi and not a Sodirni :(
Do you know the differences between these two? :(
Sodirini are smaller Sodiroi with stunted growth, said to have been created by man. They won't ever get large leaves or truly resemble mature Sodiroi leaves. There are many more Sodirini on the market than Sodiroi it seems, but you might be fine just have to wait!
@@tomwaterfall5423 guess I'll wait up 🤣
Is a moss pole a 100% requirement to get bigger leaves?
@@iAdrianT I would massively recommend it. Leaf size will increase marginally with time without one but for best results I 100% recommend you either make or buy a sphagnum moss pole. Avoid coir as it doesn’t work as well.
Thanks for the video. I'm always trying to figure out how to tell them apart. Here's the kicker, I have one that was purchased as aff (from Ecuagenera) and it definitely matches your aff criteria. I have a second that was purchased as true Sodiroi. It has three leaves and is somewhat immature. There is no pink center but the stems also have no reddish hue or bumpy texture where they meet the leaf. I'm not exactly sure now if that one is true sodiroi.
Hey Kyra, I would give it some time as I could be led to believe that the red petiole may be a maturity issue. If you message me on Instagram @waterfallplants and show me some photos of your 'true' Sodiroi I might be able to help with an ID. Thanks!
@@tomwaterfall5423 Thank you so much, Tom! I would love that. Unfortunately I don't do FB or Insta. So I'm at a bit of a disadvantage there. If we can figure out another way, I'd sure love a second opinion!
If you upload them to imgBB: imgbb.com and send me the share link on here I'll take a look for you :-)
@@tomwaterfall5423 Hey thanks so much! I made a post in my imgur. I think you can even add comments there! imgur.com/gallery/Eioiuw0
@@kyrad6543 Thanks Kyra, just had a look. I am not 100% sure on these but I think you could have a Philodendron Peltatum on your hands there. It has the leaf/lobe shape (close together and elongated) combined with the smooth green petiole that gives me enough confidence to say that it is not likely at all to be a true Sodiroi.
Although lacking the red sinus, P. Peltatum is another species sometimes sold as a Sodiroi aff. I don't believe P. Peltatum has been properly described and there is little information about it online. Have a Google and see what you think but that's my best guess! I am going to consult a knowledgeable friend for you to get a second opinion too.
Are there any Price differences between the aff and the true one? Somebody gifted me a sodiroi and I just found out it’s a real one 😂 thank you for your help!!
Hey Gioia, yes there are quite considerable price differences, you are very lucky! True plants are much harder to come by, particularly in the UK/Europe, and usually command a much higher price. In my experience, unrooted cuttings go for between £100 and £250 depending on the size.
Thats really interesting thank you very much for your information!! ☺️
So I have a sodiroi aff, I haven’t found too many folks with this plant but mine has two leaves and is VERY bright colored/yellow and one leaf is drooping heavy. I’d love mine to be a darker color! Any advice? I’ve had it for a week and I can tell it’s slowly deteriorating. :(
Get it out of any bright light, as over-exposure to grow lights can cause the leaves to turn lighter and yellower. You might lose the 'drooping' leaf if it's a recent import or has recently arrived in your care. If I was you I would focus on getting some new roots going by potting it up into some sphagnum moss soaked with a drop of Superthrive and getting it onto a heat mat. I'm actually going to lose the Sodiroi leaf shown in this video due to the plant arriving with pests, but I'm not too worried as it's putting roots out which is most important. Message me on Instagram @waterfallplants if you want any further help. Good luck!
@@tomwaterfall5423 So I actually went into work today and the droopy leaf perked back up. Don't know why. I don't use any grow lights. My plant was already pretty root-y, it had a load of roots, I got it from a FB group. Its just super yellow still. Hopefully moving it into a shady spot in my work space will help it darken with time. Just needs to acclimate I guess.
@@skankfaceBECCA Exactly, gotta be patient and often stressing and changing the conditions over and over can upset the plant more!