'68 Shelby 428SCJ vs '70 Challenger 440-6pk ('80s Pure Stock Drags) Mustangs vs Muscle Cars!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ส.ค. 2024
- #V8ponycars #MustangTown - '80s Pure Stock Drags featuring Ford's '68 428SCJ and '69 429SCJ powered Mustangs taking on '70 440-6pk Challenger, '68 HEMI Roadrunner Mopars and other big block Muscle Cars of the '60s-'70s era!
These are some of my favorite drag videos on TH-cam. Clear, concise narration without a lot of worthless babble and no suffering through boring burnouts and staging.
Thanks Keith
These are some really good videos, I have no idea how any of them have a thumbs down.
Good, no nonsense, presentation of vintage drag racing. These are realistic times for stock cars from that era and correlate within reason to published tests of the day.
Yes Daniel, you are exactly spot on. These cars were showroom stock with everyday drivers. Thanks for your input!
I agree 100%, i am 65 and remember them running mid to high 14's under 100 mph unless something like a 427/425 Corvette with say 410/456 gears. I hate to say it but a new Challenger or Camaro would take them to the cleaners, they need to be compared to other vehicles of that era not todays though. I used to love 1st Gen. Camaro's, i build a 67 RS Yenko clone in 1975, it had the 427/425 solid lifter with 12 bolt, 456 gears and a 4 speed
@@zxtenn you know what's going on Jim lol. Sadly so many folks out there don't and believe everything they hear lol. I have a library of vintage car magazines in the thousands, mostly from the 70s & 80s up through the 90s until around 2004 or so I stopped getting subscriptions. Road & Track, Hot Rod, Car & Driver, Motor Trend, Car Craft and many others. I always enjoyed the road tests and shootouts.
Performance cars of today are far superior to the cars of yesterday.
Publications back in the day recorded 14.2 from a 428 powered GT500 Shelby. They also recorded 14.2 from a 1969 Camaro Z/28 DZ-code 302. Sure a skilled driver and some minor tuning, tweaking, etc, could put them in the 13s, but off the showroom floor, these are the times they ran.
@@nedaCFilms Thanks, the old TV show Road and Track tested a 428 Shelby auto. and 14.5 was the best they could get out of it.. Lots of the improvements in the new cars have to do with the heads flowing so much better than the castings they had available then, it wasnt always about just having bigger valves but the flow. Check out Performance engine rebuilding, he has a full series on the BB Chevy and he can get 625 HP from 454 using stock crank, rods and EVEN cast heads but he knows exactly how to port them to flow serious numbers, balancing tricks, he got mid 10's in a 68 Chevelle with a turbo 350 and 456 gears, naturally slicks, good suspension, etc. He also shows that many aluminum heads brands out of the box dont have the best valve job and other things, he's very smart and knows what works.
Most of those DZ Z-28's were even slower than 14.2, they revved high that was about it, absolutely no torque so if i was going to buy/build a 1st gen. Camaro i would get a 502 or 572 or a good GM crate SB if i wanted to run a SB, 302 ONLY good to keep a Z original
@@nedaCFilms The 69 Camaro Z28 was never that quick. Chevy was also known for creating "ringer" cars that were not stock when testing for public numbers bragging.
Awesome that they are driving and racing these extremely valuable cars. Fathers talking to sons and daughters with stories of when these rare cars ruled the streets.
Crazy to see a GT500KR getting ran hard!
Well it was 30-40yrs ago and we'd actually still see ultra-rare muscle cars pounding the drag strips lol. Nowadays these cars are zipped up in a climate controlled bag in a garage nicer than my house lol.
Great stuff! Good to see these cars run the way they were intended.
These were the real times back in the day 1970. I had a 1964 GTO 4bbl, 4 speed 3.23's and a 1966 Chevelle 396ci 325hp, 4bbl, 4 speed 3.36's. Both ran high 13's stock. I had a lot of fun in those days...
Love this type of drag racing no turbo's or bottle babies.
Finally a true drag race of vintage muscle cars as we all know back then they didn't have the technology that we have today the tires could hook up anywhere near the way they can today and all the cars varied as far as what they offered lot of people just because it had a emblem on it thought it was a race car doesn't mean it was a race car they made very few race cars from the factory most of them were just production cars to get people to buy them the only people who are really serious about racing was Mopar hence the reason they usually win most of the time.
Wow realistic drag racing. The newer pure stocks run 12's. Like the dual cameras also....Thanks
Valerie is one hell of a woman
Yes she is!!!
Goddam right!
WOW, now those are REAL stock times not these thoroughly internally 'warmed up' cars!!!!!
Mid/high 14 at below 100 was an average time for most of them
You are exactly right!
Cool video! Pure Stock is cool
I think so too👍
Drag racing is faaar out!!!
Just found this channel:: Great vid, and myself being an Mustang owner, Im just loving that Valerie!! She is uncredible on thd Tree !!! To see these great stock muscle cars out there like this is a sight long gone and now unfortunately garage queens. But I get it sorta!! Sped that kinda money on any one of these cars .But still great to see them in they're true element thank you
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!! We have many many more like this.
@@nedaCFilms Ok Hey Im ready
I'll just say, I ran a 351 C mustang mildly modified, intake and headers, in Montana at 2000' elevation from 70 to 72, automatic with 390's, ran well at 15.05 all the time. Beat all SS 396's, the best cars, SS 454's and hemi's and 6 packs were running in the mid to low 14's. Just a bunch of farmers running their rides. No slicks, we drove them there. I cringe when I see the so called stock big block racers now, running in the 11's or 12's stock, just my opinion, not possible where I was...
what a great vid.
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I ran a 14,9 in my 65 temtist wagon with a sbc out of a 67 elcamino full tank of gas 2 barrel single track first time at the drag Strip test and tune the duster beside me blew my doors off 10.8 still such fond memerys they shure don't make them like that anymore!!!
Love to have a 1965 Tempest Wagon or a 1967 El Camino lol.
Thanks for sharing that memory!
Thank you M town greatly appreciated tops are tops!!!
Great video! I think I saw 1987 on a sign board by the tree? And Bob K still doin’ it today.
Yes this was filmed in 1987.
Aint nothing like a HEMI
Once again an amazing video!! Just wanted to thank you for all your retro videos. I always get my balls busted because I own a 91 Z28 and I love 80s muscle cars. People don't give them enough love. I've owned plenty of 60s and muscle as well but 80s cars have a special place in my heart. Funny thing is even with all their smog , low compression and small cubes they were still able to run mid to low 14s , equivalent to what a lot of these huge cubed muscle cars run. Thoughts??
84' GT loaded showroom 15-0s at 92 mph. 126 top end with tohelp of aftermarket speedo. It was fun to be young
Modern Honda Civic Type R will outrun all of this stuff and your Maro!
With all that being said I love all the Vintage muscle cars if you ask me I think the real brutes were around the 63 through 70 error if you look back the power between 63 and 70 that these motors put out was unbelievable if you took that power today and gave it new technology you can knock at least two seconds off your time slip
A long time ago there was a radio DJ in Tampa Florida named Mason Dixon and he also had Mopars , I wonder if it's the same guy
nice to see the realistic times by average drivers...........where are all of the guys whose "uncle" had one of those cars that ran 10s??????
Exactly right man. It's like the game of "telephone" we played in kindergarten back in the day. Once the story comes back around to the 1st kid, it's exaggerated and changed lol. Seriously though, these cars are 100% bone stock is why they are running low 14s. But if you remember back in the day, publications run many of these cars like the Ford 428 powered Shelby GT500 to low 14 second times. The '69 Camaro Z/28 with the destroked 302DZ engine also ran the same 14.2 times as the Shelby. Certainly tuning, tweaking, tires and good driver can squeeze much better times.
Have to remember none of these cars were the real beast of the era. Stock W-30 got into the 11s.
@@markperry2827 lol here we go.......the BEST NHRA superstocks were barely in the 11s.
@@markperry2827 hahahaha, no
@@markperry2827Yes, but these cars are racing quarter mile, not eighth like the Olds.
Times have changed lol.. my f150 on e85 runs a 13.6 stock. 5.0, 10 speed, 3.55 gears, single cab short bed. I lied.. it’s got a magna flow custom true dual setup with x-pipe but no tune.
I believe track prep and tires have changed a lot as well. Go watch @carsandzebras channel, he has current videos of these old muscle cars in the factory stock class racing and they are surprisingly quick.
@@CALISPEC1 these cars were unaltered showroom pure stock, most running original engines, the cars from the current pure stock races have done every trick in the book from bored, stroked, machine ported & polished and extrude honed components and every other trick that wasn't used on these cars.
@@CALISPEC1 this is what these cars "really" ran off the proverbial "showroom floor" lol
Valerie was very tough but the big Hemi made her cut it too close in the final.
Yeah, she knew she needed every edge against that car.
Something wrong with the 428scj running over 14 seconds. Should be in the 13's easy.
I very skilled drag racer can get them in the 13s. Keep in mind these are 100% pure factory stock and almost all major publications of the times in the late '60s averaged low 14s with them. With a really skilled driver and some timing, tweaking & tuning they are certainly 13 second cars.
When I got my 1970 428 CJ Mach 1 in early 90's it ran 14.0's on BFG'S with 3.50 gears. Swapped to 4.30's and street strip tires and went 13.34 at 101. With the sticky tires I could launch at 4500 which really helped. The BFG's didn't like anything over 2500.
@@docbhowe I have a 1970 428 CJ Cougar and a 1970 Boss 429. Never run them on the drag strip. Have some other muscle cars too. Going to sell some this Summer.
@@ajw6715it sounds like you have 2 awesome cars in your collection. As I'm sure you know those 2 engines make power entirely differently. In stock form anyway I have found the CJ to be a better engine for driving around town. When prices started to rise I decided not to continue to enjoy my CJ car at the track. I have other BBF cars (429, 460, 598) that I use now. The 385 series engines respond better for performance and expense.
@@docbhowe Believe it or not the Boss 429 isn't that bad if I don't get on it much. I even put a 750 cfm Holley on it. The 735 cfm is way to small. If I were going to drive it a lot I would replace the 3:91 gears with 3:25 gears. I have a 70 429 scj Torino cobra also and a 71 Torino 500 429 thunder jet. That runs the 1/4 at 107 mph 13.20 with slicks. Also have my first car which was a 1970 340 dart swinger 4 speed with 3:91 gears from the factory. Bought it in 1970. I am 70 but look and feel 50. God is good.
Great video!! ❤️
Well done!
thanks !
Those stock engines were so slow, but I love them. All those boat anchors need is a little love and you can get some serious power out of them.
They are fast enough.
Hell yeah!
that 6 pack Challenger is a clone.That black hemi RR won a Buick Hemi shootout
i need my vhs eyes but a cool vid
How far do racers take this, are they building cars from the ground up just for this? Do the cars need to be numbers matching and legit cars or are they running clones?
This was shot in 1987 and was showroom pure stock class racing
This why I quit FoMoCo. They always get their ass whooped unless the other guy goes completely asleep.
That boss was Def not full out or was one of those detuned ones the fuck a 15 second in a boss?
He spun the entire 60ft. if not more lol.
@@nedaCFilms ahh I see bad day 😂
@BLACKEYE333 lol, yeah, he was smoking the heck out of the tires.
@@nedaCFilms lol
Mr. SixPack wins!
Where is this drag strip
Beach bend dragway outside of Bowling Green KY
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I think the guys could take a lesson from Valerie get off the line don't go to sleep there
👊🇺🇸, that fuckin music is so horrible lol
Fords not doing so well