Clip Taken From JRE #1968 w/ Jason Everman Host: Joe Rogan Guest: Jason Everman Producer: Jamie Vernon #youtube #jre #joerogan #joeroganexperience #clips
Jason Eversmith.... badass From grunge rock star in Sound Garden and Nirvana to joining the military to going through Ranger School and becoming a Green Beret. Dude is a legend! If you didnt know him and looked at him you wouldnt know it. Much respect!
I resonate with what Mr. Everman has said. I saw the Elephant in 2008 in Iraq as an Infantryman.... and every moment till the day I left in 2016, having been there, survived and done my part it is still one of the most profound moment in my life. It will always be a part of you.
I was in the Army when 9-11 happened. Drove on base for PT and it was locked down. We were 6 hours behind and last ones to find out. 3 months later after train up, we deployed. That would be one of 7 combat deployments. I became a man during my first deployment.
@@rh81454 lol apparently you haven't heard of the imperial germans. Im' not even a 'nazi' im' a national socialist/heathen. Afghanistan will be Aryan again.
Renaissance Man! Warrior, Musician, Adventurer! A true Johnny Quest! Your insight and ability to communicate it helps me understand why we do the things we do. “Had to get out of the funk…” Takes a lot of courage to move forward from a life changing setback. Thank you!
Astounding! This dude is so intelligent and gifted describing the war affect. talk about a renaissance man...this is what it means to be "cream of the crop". He needs to be an educator.
What? This guy sucks. He doesn't say anything. Literally nothing, Joe is scrapping questions to open up. He is not very smart, he worried there will be reprocutions. Please educate me on what he said is revolutionary. I've watched over 50 interviews of soldiers who served in Afghanistan and he is far and away the worst. Painful interview.
@Yggdra sild I'm not. I'm coming from the angle of a person who can explain his point of view/stance articulately. I'm against any form of subjugation/ war. I'm fascinated that at one time this guy was a musician in two successful bands and that he chose a distinctly different path in life.
@@jamesgilliland8551 This is 100 percent both a reasonable and responsible perspective to have there is always something to learn from everything because every unknown has the potential of becoming known and every new known has the potential of enhancing one’s own life depending on how acquired knowledge is applied and incorporated into one’s daily lifestyle.
I read somewhere that he hasn't done many long interviews like what you get on a podcast format. He might just be a little uncomfortable because it's his first time. I hope he comes on again because I think this guy has a lot of interesting stories.
My brother was in the Marines during 9/11.. He called my mom that night and told her he loved her and was getting on a plane but couldn't tell her where he was going. He got out of the Marines and had some serious demons.
I was stationed at Marine Barracks 8th and I Washington D.C., Alpha Company First Platoon when 9/11 went down. My duty station was roughly 7 miles away from the Pentagon. I watched the black smoke fill up the sky from my platoon floor. I spent the month of October doing special guard duty afterwards and also during that time the anthrax being sent via the mail to Washington D.C.. It was a crazy time.
The anthrax was another good one. They were saying Saddam was releasing piles of anthrax in the hands of terrorists and these letters were just to scare people into supporting the war. It all went away very quickly. The whole war on terror debacle was such a low point in our history. We fell for it like suckers
@@christianvasquez9339 Hi sorry no, they would have been considered 3rd Platoon in Alpha Company. At 8th and I there was two companies, Alpha and Bravo, with three platoons in each company, who were ceremonial duty. I wish though! Those guys are legendary! It's really hard to get selected.
I remember playing in the living room at five or so when the planes hit. I thought it was a movie and got my grandmother. When she broke down is when I knew shit was really hitting the fan.
Idk. Usually people who’ve seen combat including myself, the adrenaline is like no other but WAR itself is definitely something I’m not hooah about. It fuckin sucks
Hes a shy personality so coming up with words would be difficult, most shy people interview awkward, considering what he's been through its incredible that he is able to talk properly without the ptsd interfering
Never in combat, but I think I have a glimpse into what he is saying. I never understood why people went hunting, until I was around 30. I worked at a retail store and with loss prevention we chased down someone who had stolen something and it happened. I had a strong instinctual reaction that I never experience, an absolute primal sensation. Still don't hunt but now I understand why people enjoy it.
Honestly, I have mixed-but-mostly-negative feelings about retail thugs who believe they have the right to accost people over merchandise which is already covered by millions in insurance. I've seen a loss.prevention asshole get properly laid-out for just randomly picking a guy (my brother) who sort of matched the description of someone who was stealing athletic tape and hairspray. A loss prevention guy wrongly accused my brother of taking items because my brother looked a *little bit* like some other guy who apparently was taking things, and he proceeded to grab my brother by the lapels and try to muscle him to a nearby wall, and my brother knocked him out. Not cold, but enough to where he was on ice skates and fell on his big ol butt. My brother got arrested for assault!! My brother is 5'6 145 pounds and this Securitas gumba was about 6'2 240. My brother was a multiple time all-state wrestler and an HS all-american, so he put hands on the wrong "little guy." Naturally, when it went to court, the charges were dropped because he did absolutely nothing wrong and never stole a thing. A lot of those loss-prevention clowns are corporate merchandise warriors who wish they had a legitimate patrolman's badge. Not saying you're one of them, but anyone who gets paid a pittance to put their hands on random people because of CD players and cold cereal deserves the same fate as big baldy, who sat there beat red for a half hour while the medics shined a little light in his face and the ACTUAL thief walked out the front door with a cart full of stolen goods.
@Richard Horrocks but you'll sit there and eat steak chicken strips hamburger ect so as long as someone else has to kill the animal your all good with it?
@VanishedPNW he should have gotten fired for that bullshit and the store should've been sued for since he was wrongfully stopped which ended up in him being arrested
Some of my young troopers asked me what was the difference between fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan. I told them the Taliban and ACM were not afraid to engage and stay engaged in the fight. The Iraqi insurgents hit and run. The Taliban actually scared me.
@@kless001 Yeah you were there? You realize how long that war was, and the differences depending on location & year? Everyone had differing experiences it's common sense. "I served" lmao
You def tap into your primal in war. You can feel it. Same thing in a fight, especially when they're on the ground and your mind is telling you to kill them. You gotta catch it before you do potentially severely hurt them.
Do with the fact that you get to experience, natural body, chemistry, fluctuations as you would, if you were an animal living in nature, or if we were living like we used to live being more alert with occasional bursts of adrenaline when it comes to survival. And now we live in a world where we have dopamine just fit to us consistently with no real downtime or recovery. For body chemistry to level out in balance.
Every sentence of this podcast could be valuable in a philosophy book. I think Joe Rogan is great at discourse when he isn't sitting next to comedians. He is funny but I like his old man insight more.
This just makes me respect Afghans so much more hearing him talking about them being the toughest opponents and the only reason why he was confident was because of the overwhelming advantage in technology they had. It's not the first time I hear a soldier say that. I heard another one claim the only reason why the war lasted as long as it did was because they had way better equipment than the Afghans but if they had the same stuff with their tenacity and fighting skills....it would've been over sooner
The reason Afghan was tougher is because the Afghans hide in the foothills and mountains and use guerrilla warfare. Often times you cant even see the people shooting at you and you literally return fire in the area you think it is coming from and then suddenly it stops. Theyve left. Then you get blown up by an IED on the road. If it was 1200 years ago and No Quarter. Domination. No "geneva convention" etc. Afghan would get crushed and subjegated.
@@danielleclair1360 you're dreaming lol. The reason they fight like lions is because they're a nation of warriors who are always fighting. They had experience with the Soviets. Not only that but they fight to defend their religion, their families and their future against an invader which automatically makes them more enthusiastic than low paid grunts from Kentucky and Alabama who don't even know where they are or what they're there for. You're also dreaming about the Geneva convention being the only reason they weren't obliterated. If you opened a book you'd know they fought the British empire and defeated them, they defeated the Soviets who couldn't care less about war crimes and the Geneva convention and they defeated a coalition of the most powerful armies in the world just now.
@@amg863 Anytime you have terrain like Afghanistan and you go up against the "home team", you're at a disadvantage. Especially a "home team" that's been fighting every generation again and again because it's a "warlord" culture. When you "try to nation build" in a country like Afghanistan, it just shows how "piss poor" your countries leadership is to think that's the answer in Afghanistan. Afghanistan for the Americans was literally like Vietnam 2.0. What a shit show. I feel truly sorry for the Afghan's who gave the Americans the time of day and had to pay the price for it.
@@danielleclair1360 1200 years ago empires tried to conquer Afghanistan and failed, they call it the graveyard of empires for a reason, you’re an uneducated idiot, you just don’t want to admit that america with all of its money and technology lost to a group of mountain men with Ak 47s and a quran
I agree that Sebastian Junger is correct about PTSD. Our culture is so atomized and the military in war is the complete opposite of that. Then you come home and you aren't a member of a tribe anymore, i think your lizard brain tells you you've been banished and you're fucked or something. That's not all PTSD is, but for a lot of folks that's one of the main drivers.
Well the reason he’s so eloquent at describing the art of war, is because he was an artist first. He was a musician & then joined SF. Artists who mix with martial arts or combat. Tend to make very great warriors.
I dont agree...have listened to other veterans in JRE?...JR doesn't invite people that can not comunicate, you have to remember that the podcast duration is aprox 3 hours long.
@@jeanmicheldesjardins6793 You don’t agree but you don’t give a single real reason as to why. Other then “he invites people that can communicate” Your brain is 90% corn syrup. Can’t even spell right bruh. Look up miyamoto musashi and gain some intelligence my friend. Warrior and artist.
Finally. I am tired of the action heroes and their tendency to exaggerate. Understand fully I respect the ability and situations but here is a man equitable experience not trying to big it up. Reminds me of a conversation I had with another veteran nobody was trying to impress anyone just talk about our experience.
ey Mates Joe Guest guy i agree its just a nother day Makin bread thats what you do in a bread factory unless there's other missions like in the cookie and cake division who know deluxe pastry like Beef patty or ham and cheese croissant no meat just go get a leg off the target and roast it a little general chow sauce couple of onions cook until GBD
👍👍👍 it was the same for us standing around in the morning waiting to go to a machine gun range and then planes started hitting buildings on the television. That was the last normal moment we ever had. Nothing has been the same since. A year and a half later I was invading Iraq
Would that they'd bring some of those tribal drives back to civvy street. We mostly live in cities, on reservations, or as isolated individuals in the crowd. I live in a remote village. We all know each other and we all pull together in a crisis. This stuff's innate, and has to be repressed by those corporate vested interests who know they can only control the disposessed masses, and that self reliant communities could spell their doom.
The same scenario happens to these poor Black athletes in the inner city. Once they lose that tribal group effort winning of the sports team they look for it elsewhere in a gang
@@colico14 absolute nonsense.. wtf would your idiot ass say such a thing ?? You're not worthy to shine his boots or wipe his ass.. go back to bed fuktard
Joe hasnt met too many major leaguers. Hes used to navy seals uppump trying to act like they arent a platoon level fighting force. "SF doesnt pick the best guy they pick the right guy"
Damn I’m getting old. Early Afghanistan and Iraq vets are starting to look like Vietnam vets did when I was young. Born in 1990. I’m also a Veteran 2012-17… as are most men on my dads side. No career men though. We just for some way or another find ourselves enlisted.
..dude lost me after nirvana Soundgarden, i wish you could've gotten him to spend alittle more time on why he couldnt make it work with Chris in Soundgarden if he loved that group so much, ..chris also glossed over the subject when he was alive, saying only that he was given the sack because he wasn't a team player, kind of vague, consideing he obviously Was a team player or else he wouldve failed in the military too. I mean, ..the guy's introspective and emotive enough that you could've probably gotten him to open up on that subject more. On the military stuff, he was special ops so he's not really at liberty to divulge much info on that subject anyway. You might've asked if he still plays Bass.
Poor people over there just saw tanks and machine guns kill everyone and they didnt have anything to fight back with except stones. all the kids who died until the taliban came from pakistan with rocket lauchers and ak 47s. most of the villagers was peaceful goat herders. 😢😢
Taliban are/were the normal civilian Afghans defensing their homeland and families from a coalition of the most powerful military power on earth. The Afghans have been defending their homeland from powers like the Sikhs from India, the British India Raj(3 Anglo-Afghan wars), the Soviets during the 80s and now the American Coalition for 20 years!!, The Afghans area Tribal people spread from Afghanistan and into half of Pakistan. The Pakistani section of the Tribes have always defended their brothers and cousins against a the aggressors, which is what the foreign invaders do not factor in when invading the country. The Americans paid the Pakistani military regime and the then the "civilian governments" millions of dollars in so-called "coalition support fund" to prevent the Afghan/Pathan/Pakhtun Tribes from crossing over the "border" into Afghanistan, but it turned into a disaster for Pakistan, loosing thousands of troops and civilians. Whoever read the history of Afghanistan always knew the Afghans/Taliban will ultimately win and be back in power. There are two very famous age old sayings in Afghanistan: 1:"You come into our country with YOUR choosing but you leave with OUR choosing!" and 2: "You have the WATCH, we have the TIME!" It's a pity that millions of civilians have been killed to make owners of military industrial complex rich.
Look up the general talking about invading / destabilizing 7 countries after 911 and even he says he has no idea Partial Answer is proxy war against Russia
Anyone that judges this man's essential worth by how he interacted with the lead members of what was inarguably one of the most dysfunctional, and self-destructive, rock bands of all time, is an extremely shallow person. The three surviving members of Nirvana have all admitted to ongoing mental health issues, most of which stem from the drug & alcohol abuse that they sustained while in the band. I find this incessant need to idolize, and defend celebrities to be extremely puzzling. Perhaps, I'm just very pragmatic. But, I can admire, and appreciate the talent of any writer, singer, athlete, musician, actor, painter, sculptor, etc. without conflating that extraordinary gift from God with what is very often a narcissistic, egotistical, selfish, and sociopathic personality. Kurt Cobain was a gifted writer, musician, and vocalist. He was a complete shit of a human being. Using Kurt Cobain as a benchmark with which to judge another human being is just *WRONG.*
As a deaf person, im thankful for the subtitles.❤
That’s awesome to hear!
Jason Eversmith.... badass
From grunge rock star in Sound Garden and Nirvana to joining the military to going through Ranger School and becoming a Green Beret. Dude is a legend! If you didnt know him and looked at him you wouldnt know it. Much respect!
Don't forget spending time studying in a bhuddist temple in Tibet before joining the rangers. Musician, Philosopher, and Warrior.
Jason Everman 👌
I resonate with what Mr. Everman has said. I saw the Elephant in 2008 in Iraq as an Infantryman.... and every moment till the day I left in 2016, having been there, survived and done my part it is still one of the most profound moment in my life. It will always be a part of you.
To true bro , still can't sleep more then 4hrs at a time mentally in qrf for life
@@c431inf tell me about it. We stuck in QRF mode.
I’ve never heard a spec ops dude “up talk” like this. He sounds like Paul Stamets but he’s a trained killer. It’s just odd to hear
Probably because he was a famous musician in nirvana and sound garden. Do you not know who he is?
No because most guys in SOF are fairly smart and articulate and could think circles around most people.
Dude, I was thinking the exact same thing.
That’s just a northwest accent
This one time, at band camp...
It’s awesome to hear a group guy show respect for the line unit, dont usually hear that very often
It's being in the face of danger and making it back with your guys alive..all to do it again tomorrow.its euphoric, addictive, and unforgettable.
This is great. I deployed as a civilian and I get this vibe..some of the best at the tip of the spear. Good people and friends for life
I was in the Army when 9-11 happened. Drove on base for PT and it was locked down. We were 6 hours behind and last ones to find out. 3 months later after train up, we deployed. That would be one of 7 combat deployments. I became a man during my first deployment.
you mean a war criminal
God bless you and thank you for your service.
I’m Canadian but thank you for your service. I hope you and family are well.
IED's await you and your kind
@@Nebul3r well that was 20 years ago and he’s still alive to make this comment so f you
Thanks for your service, Jason.
I got out of army in 93 I got , Mindfunk's dropped cd. Which Jason Everman plays on. One my all-time favorite cds!
His decorations are outstanding Ranger Tab, Special Forces Tab, CIB on and on...
I wish Jason the very best of everything.
why are you so respectful of people fighting illegal wars for israel ?
@@yggdrasild755 USA doesn't fight for Israel. Israel just rides USA's coattail.
@@yggdrasild755 The nazis lost. You need to let it go, Hans.
@@yggdrasild755 Also, your SS avi is very gay.
@@rh81454 lol apparently you haven't heard of the imperial germans. Im' not even a 'nazi' im' a national socialist/heathen. Afghanistan will be Aryan again.
Renaissance Man! Warrior, Musician, Adventurer! A true Johnny Quest! Your insight and ability to communicate it helps me understand why we do the things we do. “Had to get out of the funk…” Takes a lot of courage to move forward from a life changing setback. Thank you!
hell of an interview!
Once you see mom's cry, you won't war anymore
this was so calming it put me almost to sleep in a good way
Wow ! Jason ! I know him from Nirvana ! Thank you for serving our country sir ! ❤❤❤❤❤
This cast struck a cord, thank you so much for sharing. SFMF
It's hard for a lot of people to put their experience with war Into words that make sense. It's hard to explain.
Damn Joe, deep. Great segment.
Astounding! This dude is so intelligent and gifted describing the war affect. talk about a renaissance man...this is what it means to be "cream of the crop". He needs to be an educator.
What? This guy sucks. He doesn't say anything. Literally nothing, Joe is scrapping questions to open up. He is not very smart, he worried there will be reprocutions. Please educate me on what he said is revolutionary. I've watched over 50 interviews of soldiers who served in Afghanistan and he is far and away the worst. Painful interview.
@Yggdra sild I'm not. I'm coming from the angle of a person who can explain his point of view/stance articulately.
I'm against any form of subjugation/ war.
I'm fascinated that at one time this guy was a musician in two successful bands and that he chose a distinctly different path in life.
@@jamesgilliland8551 This is 100 percent both a reasonable and responsible perspective to have there is always something to learn from everything because every unknown has the potential of becoming known and every new known has the potential of enhancing one’s own life depending on how acquired knowledge is applied and incorporated into one’s daily lifestyle.
All rings true with my experience. Salute
Awesome Insight
Amazing clip.
This episode was tough. It's like he didn't want to be there
I read somewhere that he hasn't done many long interviews like what you get on a podcast format. He might just be a little uncomfortable because it's his first time. I hope he comes on again because I think this guy has a lot of interesting stories.
My brother was in the Marines during 9/11.. He called my mom that night and told her he loved her and was getting on a plane but couldn't tell her where he was going. He got out of the Marines and had some serious demons.
I was stationed at Marine Barracks 8th and I Washington D.C., Alpha Company First Platoon when 9/11 went down. My duty station was roughly 7 miles away from the Pentagon. I watched the black smoke fill up the sky from my platoon floor. I spent the month of October doing special guard duty afterwards and also during that time the anthrax being sent via the mail to Washington D.C.. It was a crazy time.
The anthrax was another good one. They were saying Saddam was releasing piles of anthrax in the hands of terrorists and these letters were just to scare people into supporting the war. It all went away very quickly.
The whole war on terror debacle was such a low point in our history. We fell for it like suckers
Silent drill platoon?
@@christianvasquez9339 Hi sorry no, they would have been considered 3rd Platoon in Alpha Company. At 8th and I there was two companies, Alpha and Bravo, with three platoons in each company, who were ceremonial duty. I wish though! Those guys are legendary! It's really hard to get selected.
SEMPER FI
Ask your superiors where all the camera footage of the crash disappeared to.
The key is not to jump on the grenade.... it's to grab the closest Private standing near you and toss HIM on the grenade!😅
He just described the feeling of belonging to a gang...funny how ppl don't see both sides but I get it
Best rogan podcast i have ever heard- rogan is showing the up most honor to the spec ops soldier- its great
1st recon all day eerah
@@christianvasquez9339 10th mountain all live long day .-.
That’s so weird, I find this to be near the worst podcast I’ve ever heard. It’s crazy how much people’s views can differ. I’m glad you like it though!
That was sarcasm right
Worst ever
Great questions by Joe here.
I remember playing in the living room at five or so when the planes hit. I thought it was a movie and got my grandmother. When she broke down is when I knew shit was really hitting the fan.
Idk. Usually people who’ve seen combat including myself, the adrenaline is like no other but WAR itself is definitely something I’m not hooah about. It fuckin sucks
Super interesting!
Hes a shy personality so coming up with words would be difficult, most shy people interview awkward, considering what he's been through its incredible that he is able to talk properly without the ptsd interfering
Never in combat, but I think I have a glimpse into what he is saying. I never understood why people went hunting, until I was around 30. I worked at a retail store and with loss prevention we chased down someone who had stolen something and it happened. I had a strong instinctual reaction that I never experience, an absolute primal sensation. Still don't hunt but now I understand why people enjoy it.
Honestly, I have mixed-but-mostly-negative feelings about retail thugs who believe they have the right to accost people over merchandise which is already covered by millions in insurance. I've seen a loss.prevention asshole get properly laid-out for just randomly picking a guy (my brother) who sort of matched the description of someone who was stealing athletic tape and hairspray.
A loss prevention guy wrongly accused my brother of taking items because my brother looked a *little bit* like some other guy who apparently was taking things, and he proceeded to grab my brother by the lapels and try to muscle him to a nearby wall, and my brother knocked him out. Not cold, but enough to where he was on ice skates and fell on his big ol butt. My brother got arrested for assault!! My brother is 5'6 145 pounds and this Securitas gumba was about 6'2 240. My brother was a multiple time all-state wrestler and an HS all-american, so he put hands on the wrong "little guy." Naturally, when it went to court, the charges were dropped because he did absolutely nothing wrong and never stole a thing. A lot of those loss-prevention clowns are corporate merchandise warriors who wish they had a legitimate patrolman's badge. Not saying you're one of them, but anyone who gets paid a pittance to put their hands on random people because of CD players and cold cereal deserves the same fate as big baldy, who sat there beat red for a half hour while the medics shined a little light in his face and the ACTUAL thief walked out the front door with a cart full of stolen goods.
I can easily imagine it being amazing fun... BUT, I'm not killing an animal. No way, Jose.
Warrior Spirit takes hold
@Richard Horrocks but you'll sit there and eat steak chicken strips hamburger ect so as long as someone else has to kill the animal your all good with it?
@VanishedPNW he should have gotten fired for that bullshit and the store should've been sued for since he was wrongfully stopped which ended up in him being arrested
Kandahar was profound to me for sure
This guy is a genius! Wow!
When is this coming Out????
Some of my young troopers asked me what was the difference between fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan. I told them the Taliban and ACM were not afraid to engage and stay engaged in the fight. The Iraqi insurgents hit and run. The Taliban actually scared me.
That’s not true at all I was there.
@@kless001 I’m sure you were there. With Thomas the tank engine and Winnie the Pooh
@@deadmanwalking915 you never served, unless we’re talking ice cream as a summer job
@@kless001 Yeah you were there? You realize how long that war was, and the differences depending on location & year? Everyone had differing experiences it's common sense.
"I served" lmao
@@pulse3732 yep and then I became a firefighter. You wouldn’t know though
Depressing
I love his honesty he is not trying to be a politician or something he speaks the truth.
I like that he was attached to 4th ID. They were at Fort Hood during that time, I think. 😊
"We're still hominids on the Savannah." Quote of the day.
right on, bro. but we're not just Killer Apes. we're rational artistic spiritual killer apes.
This guy is a walking PTSD 😂
He know why he was studying Thai...
Ever see that dosaquis commercial about the most interesting man in the world ?
I think we found him❤
You def tap into your primal in war. You can feel it. Same thing in a fight, especially when they're on the ground and your mind is telling you to kill them. You gotta catch it before you do potentially severely hurt them.
Do with the fact that you get to experience, natural body, chemistry, fluctuations as you would, if you were an animal living in nature, or if we were living like we used to live being more alert with occasional bursts of adrenaline when it comes to survival. And now we live in a world where we have dopamine just fit to us consistently with no real downtime or recovery. For body chemistry to level out in balance.
This guy sounds like the hippie teacher on Beavis and Butthead, anyone remember that guy?
Every sentence of this podcast could be valuable in a philosophy book. I think Joe Rogan is great at discourse when he isn't sitting next to comedians.
He is funny but I like his old man insight more.
Amen!
Why isn’t this episode on Spotify?
Wouldn’t show up until I searched for it but in the standard episode list it wouldn’t show
We are not monkeys guys! We are not an accident.
Sup with joes underlip
This just makes me respect Afghans so much more hearing him talking about them being the toughest opponents and the only reason why he was confident was because of the overwhelming advantage in technology they had.
It's not the first time I hear a soldier say that. I heard another one claim the only reason why the war lasted as long as it did was because they had way better equipment than the Afghans but if they had the same stuff with their tenacity and fighting skills....it would've been over sooner
The reason Afghan was tougher is because the Afghans hide in the foothills and mountains and use guerrilla warfare. Often times you cant even see the people shooting at you and you literally return fire in the area you think it is coming from and then suddenly it stops. Theyve left. Then you get blown up by an IED on the road.
If it was 1200 years ago and No Quarter. Domination. No "geneva convention" etc. Afghan would get crushed and subjegated.
@@danielleclair1360 you're dreaming lol. The reason they fight like lions is because they're a nation of warriors who are always fighting. They had experience with the Soviets. Not only that but they fight to defend their religion, their families and their future against an invader which automatically makes them more enthusiastic than low paid grunts from Kentucky and Alabama who don't even know where they are or what they're there for.
You're also dreaming about the Geneva convention being the only reason they weren't obliterated. If you opened a book you'd know they fought the British empire and defeated them, they defeated the Soviets who couldn't care less about war crimes and the Geneva convention and they defeated a coalition of the most powerful armies in the world just now.
@@danielleclair1360 some of the toughest for sure. Glad we could come to an agreement 🤝
@@amg863 Anytime you have terrain like Afghanistan and you go up against the "home team", you're at a disadvantage. Especially a "home team" that's been fighting every generation again and again because it's a "warlord" culture.
When you "try to nation build" in a country like Afghanistan, it just shows how "piss poor" your countries leadership is to think that's the answer in Afghanistan. Afghanistan for the Americans was literally like Vietnam 2.0. What a shit show. I feel truly sorry for the Afghan's who gave the Americans the time of day and had to pay the price for it.
@@danielleclair1360 1200 years ago empires tried to conquer Afghanistan and failed, they call it the graveyard of empires for a reason, you’re an uneducated idiot, you just don’t want to admit that america with all of its money and technology lost to a group of mountain men with Ak 47s and a quran
Rip nick berg
We all know why he did Thai 😂
Bring him on again he’s very intelligent
I agree that Sebastian Junger is correct about PTSD. Our culture is so atomized and the military in war is the complete opposite of that. Then you come home and you aren't a member of a tribe anymore, i think your lizard brain tells you you've been banished and you're fucked or something. That's not all PTSD is, but for a lot of folks that's one of the main drivers.
also because humanity need strive and progress to a certain extent
Well the reason he’s so eloquent at describing the art of war, is because he was an artist first. He was a musician & then joined SF. Artists who mix with martial arts or combat. Tend to make very great warriors.
I dont agree...have listened to other veterans in JRE?...JR doesn't invite people that can not comunicate, you have to remember that the podcast duration is aprox 3 hours long.
@@jeanmicheldesjardins6793 You don’t agree but you don’t give a single real reason as to why. Other then “he invites people that can communicate” Your brain is 90% corn syrup. Can’t even spell right bruh. Look up miyamoto musashi and gain some intelligence my friend. Warrior and artist.
ey Mate where s your dog tags
Finally. I am tired of the action heroes and their tendency to exaggerate. Understand fully I respect the ability and situations but here is a man equitable experience not trying to big it up. Reminds me of a conversation I had with another veteran nobody was trying to impress anyone just talk about our experience.
ey Mates Joe Guest guy i agree its just a nother day Makin bread thats what you do in a bread factory unless there's other missions like in the cookie and cake division
who know deluxe pastry like Beef patty or ham and cheese croissant no meat just go get a leg off the target and roast it a little general chow sauce couple of onions
cook until GBD
👍👍👍 it was the same for us standing around in the morning waiting to go to a machine gun range and then planes started hitting buildings on the television. That was the last normal moment we ever had. Nothing has been the same since. A year and a half later I was invading Iraq
A country that had nothing to do with it, wtf,,,,
Thank you for your service
I like your bio
Chickens will always come home home to roost, murica
So I see the Facebook doctors of philosophy, military science and politics made their way to this thread
War, what is it good for?
Would that they'd bring some of those tribal drives back to civvy street. We mostly live in cities, on reservations, or as isolated individuals in the crowd. I live in a remote village. We all know each other and we all pull together in a crisis. This stuff's innate, and has to be repressed by those corporate vested interests who know they can only control the disposessed masses, and that self reliant communities could spell their doom.
The same scenario happens to these poor Black athletes in the inner city. Once they lose that tribal group effort winning of the sports team they look for it elsewhere in a gang
All blacks are terrorists after the riots
It's XCOM.
I can just see this guy sniping people with big cheese playing in background.
Oh, shit....pretty amazing comment.
good fucking song!
@@colico14 absolute nonsense.. wtf would your idiot ass say such a thing ?? You're not worthy to shine his boots or wipe his ass.. go back to bed fuktard
He talking like he not doing a interview about him
Joe hasnt met too many major leaguers. Hes used to navy seals uppump trying to act like they arent a platoon level fighting force. "SF doesnt pick the best guy they pick the right guy"
Damn I’m getting old. Early Afghanistan and Iraq vets are starting to look like Vietnam vets did when I was young. Born in 1990. I’m also a Veteran 2012-17… as are most men on my dads side. No career men though. We just for some way or another find ourselves enlisted.
How did it feel to kill and die for nothing?
You see these guys are fucking haunted.
But enlightened
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Imagine the rage in the country if they loose a career in the South China Sea
Dry
What about Afghanistan experience + democracy = now innocent people are suffering 🇦🇫❤️
Civilians will never understand it 💯💯💯
Considering war is the world orders battles over the transfer of money why should any of do thier bidding. Let them should a riffle
Jason's got to be the largest walking contradiction on Earth
Duality of man.
“Targets”=civilians
How tf do u know. U werent there. Ur some keyboard warrior donut stomach behind computer screen
subtitles why? annoying af
..dude lost me after nirvana Soundgarden, i wish you could've gotten him to spend alittle more time on why he couldnt make it work with Chris in Soundgarden if he loved that group so much, ..chris also glossed over the subject when he was alive, saying only that he was given the sack because he wasn't a team player, kind of vague, consideing he obviously Was a team player or else he wouldve failed in the military too. I mean, ..the guy's introspective and emotive enough that you could've probably gotten him to open up on that subject more. On the military stuff, he was special ops so he's not really at liberty to divulge much info on that subject anyway. You might've asked if he still plays Bass.
Finally a vet who isn’t like the stereotypical “WAR IS HELL, BUY MY SUPPS!” These are the soldiers we need, not snooze fest whiners like Shawn Ryan
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Yeah we're the war apes
Bad mf
Wow I just realized my heroes were idiots
Oh well great music
Rockstars shouldn't be heroes to you haha what are you 15
The dumbar number....i think the success of JRE is based on nurturing curious people curiosity....
Poor people over there just saw tanks and machine guns kill everyone and they didnt have anything to fight back with except stones. all the kids who died until the taliban came from pakistan with rocket lauchers and ak 47s. most of the villagers was peaceful goat herders. 😢😢
Taliban are/were the normal civilian Afghans defensing their homeland and families from a coalition of the most powerful military power on earth. The Afghans have been defending their homeland from powers like the Sikhs from India, the British India Raj(3 Anglo-Afghan wars), the Soviets during the 80s and now the American Coalition for 20 years!!, The Afghans area Tribal people spread from Afghanistan and into half of Pakistan. The Pakistani section of the Tribes have always defended their brothers and cousins against a the aggressors, which is what the foreign invaders do not factor in when invading the country. The Americans paid the Pakistani military regime and the then the "civilian governments" millions of dollars in so-called "coalition support fund" to prevent the Afghan/Pathan/Pakhtun Tribes from crossing over the "border" into Afghanistan, but it turned into a disaster for Pakistan, loosing thousands of troops and civilians. Whoever read the history of Afghanistan always knew the Afghans/Taliban will ultimately win and be back in power. There are two very famous age old sayings in Afghanistan:
1:"You come into our country with YOUR choosing but you leave with OUR choosing!" and
2: "You have the WATCH, we have the TIME!"
It's a pity that millions of civilians have been killed to make owners of military industrial complex rich.
Aman America don't worry I remember cuz
and until today still zero WMD found in Iraq. Also the Taliban won in Aftanistan
I still don't understand what lraq had to do with 9/11 😅
Look up the general talking about invading / destabilizing 7 countries after 911 and even he says he has no idea
Partial Answer is proxy war against Russia
So Iraq compared to Vietnam and world war2!!! Please stop Iraq that was not a war!!
Anyone that judges this man's essential worth by how he interacted with the lead members of what was inarguably one of the most dysfunctional, and self-destructive, rock bands of all time, is an extremely shallow person.
The three surviving members of Nirvana have all admitted to ongoing mental health issues, most of which stem from the drug & alcohol abuse that they sustained while in the band.
I find this incessant need to idolize, and defend celebrities to be extremely puzzling. Perhaps, I'm just very pragmatic. But, I can admire, and appreciate the talent of any writer, singer, athlete, musician, actor, painter, sculptor, etc. without conflating that extraordinary gift from God with what is very often a narcissistic, egotistical, selfish, and sociopathic personality.
Kurt Cobain was a gifted writer, musician, and vocalist. He was a complete shit of a human being. Using Kurt Cobain as a benchmark with which to judge another human being is just *WRONG.*