I think interviews like this are the biggest reason Joe has become such a mega name. He finds incredibly interesting people, well known or not, and has the ability to speak with them in a way that gives the audience a pretty solid insight to their disposition. I had heard of Jason before and thought his story would be interesting to learn about, but never made the effort to do so. Thanks Joe for introducing us to yet another fascinating person.
@@jacobj6376 you mean joining the military industrial complex to fight for a governments control of oil and resources and regimen changes? So being brainwashed is the right path? 😂
Jason was in nucleus of 2 bands that would go on to be legendary right before grunge burst, I’ve always wondered why he hasn’t been interviewed or sought after more. Such a fascinating person with an amazing story
Hey Eric. Love your channel. Absolutely. Incredible stories jason has . I preferred nirvana with more bare sound . Just the one guitar . Kurt managed pretty well but jason and Chad are the missing members . Snubbed from hall of fame ( when pat got inducted despite not playing on an album).
@@wantutosigh1117 he should have but I was glad that Dave mentioned all the previous drummers and made sure people knew that the drums on “In Bloom” was all Chad’s idea. Thought that was really cool and humble of him, basically saying “I just happened to come in at the right time, the others were just as important.”
This makes me miss Cornell even more! Jason hit nail on the head when he said CC was made to be a rock star. Had the looks, voice and was helluva good song writer.
Because it caught on and record labels were scrambling for the Seattle sound.. but they did dig up quite a few amazing song writers, and alot of other great ones got overlooked by mainstream .. I love 7 year bitch and the gits!
Jason actually paid the full fee for the production of the first Nirvana album Bleach. Only $606.17 dollars at the time. He was credited on the album, but didn't play on it. They also put him on the front cover. He played a huge role in Nirvana history . Also, think of how many Bleach albums were sold after Nevermind came out. Hope he gets paid his dues !!
I think in a interview with Rolling Stone he mentioned that he paid because he was the only one in the band that had the money and they promised to pay him back but never did. Bleach is my favorite Nirvana album so Im glad he did.
Jason Everman’s tour with Nirvana in 1989 is one of the band’s most overlooked yet interesting periods of time, definitely look into the details of that tour if you’re a Nirvana fan
Hey Daniel, I'm subscribed to your channel dude. You have done a great job with it. The quality of your video's are amazing and you're a phenomenal interviewer.
@Matty Kelly Why are they called Ivy League? The term 'Ivy League' was coined in 1937, by sports writer Caswell Adams in an article published in the New York Herald. Adams used the term as a reference to the powerful eastern football league, which was assembled by eight universities: Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Penn, Dartmouth, Cornell, Columbia and Brown. Google is a helluva thing. You should try it sometime. You just type what you wrote in responses into a Google search engine and VOILA!! You get an answer right away. You don't have to wait for a kind soul like me to copy and paste the answer in a reply for you. 👏👏
" After breakfast I was kicked outside and not expected to be seen until dinner "....Basically sums up the majority of my childhood... Glad to know my brother, and the kids from my town were not alone...Amazing Interview. Thanks Joe..
Part of it is that Joe asks horrible music questions and doesn’t know even the baseline of who he’s interviewing. So many interesting questions that weren’t asked.
Archer, Rangers are hardcore dudes, but I’ve always felt that SF is where it’s at because those are the guys who have to be very smart besides being tough. A big part of SF training focuses on language and cultural training because SF are usually the guys making first contact with potential allies on the ground. Plenty of SF guys can do what Rangers do, but I doubt that too many Rangers can do what SF does.
I meet a "special forces" guy once every few months working in hotels, so many Walter Mittys. Glad to see occasionally they actually are what they say they are.
I remember seeing him with SG at Tipitina's for their first show there. He came out - hit his low string and caused a minor earthquake. I could not believe how loud and thunderous his bass was. Loved it. What a show. There were only 50 or so people there. They played Beyond the Wheel in almost total darkness - a blacklight lit behind Matt - and I thought I was witnessing witchcraft or the devil on earth. Killer stuff.
not to glorify drugs , I'm not but my 1st SG experience I was on LSD and the rest is much like you said , it was getting the best of me . or the LSD was either way it as special
Wow. He was with Nirvana back in 88'-89' and Sound Garden in 93', right before both bands blew up! Very interesting timing. Regardless, still amazing experiences; especially, for me growing up as a teen in the 90's. So many good bands back then. Wish Kurt and Chris were still here.
Jason truly has had a one of a kind life and is a certified badass. As a massive fan of Soundgarden and Nirvana I’d love to hear more detail about his time in the bands, but from this clip it seems like he isn’t ready to go too far into that, maybe due to some unresolved feelings and resentment. Hopefully someday he will be ready to share his stories and bless the fans!
@Richard Schiffman 😂 very true but a person still has to be somewhat...personable?...to get along in band for an extended time, especially ones like those that took it real seriously & were basically destined for BIG but challenging success
There's been stories from fans who got a chance to interact with Soundgarden during the 90s that have stated that nearly every member was extremely nice and laid back except for Cornell, who was an immature drunk wandering off in his own mind.
Fun fact: he also was in Mind Funk for their 2nd album, Dropped, from 93. One of my favorite albums. Not nearly the same name recognition, but an awesome stoner rock album.
It's called being an adult and man you goof 🤦 your generation is used to just word vomit and saying things without thinking about what they are actually saying
Or he thinks before he speaks... kind of a common trait of Vets... which is such rarified air these days that people like you think there's something wrong with it.
@@JB-hq9yj Show me where I made fun of him or where I said there was something wrong with it. It never happened. Everything wrong with society is represented in your false claims.
My childhood was full of adventure. I left after breakfast and would b gone most of the day. Times were different growing up in the 1960s and 70s. Thank God no cell phones or computers.
Listened/watched the podcast on Spotify, had to come to TH-cam to give feedback - hands down the best JRE podcast ever!!! Jason Everman is the most remarkable journeyman ever (in the surname I guess), extremely insightful and able to convey really deep understandings. Thank you, Jason Everman!
Western Washington was a crazy place to grow up. Love this story of climbing high tension power lines! We would jump from the top of Hemlock trees, and ride the limbs down as they bent, but don't break, amazing wood fiber. Lots of Western Washington was near rain forest, little rain micro climates, getting like 80 or 90 inches of rain annually, well away from the real Olympic Rain Forest. When I was 4 or 5, I'd be climbing big maple trees, just hanging onto thick moss, and digging my feet in. These were monster trees, the first limbs being like 30 feet up. Thanks for making me think of the good parts of my childhood!
I remember reading an article about this dude Jason years ago. So cool to actually see and hear him. His story is impressive yet he seems modest - does not need recognition or validation from anyone despite the exceptional things he's done. Freaking solid man!
Toward the end of this interview, he says he didn’t even get paid royalties for playing on material on the Nirvana box set released in 2004. He said he didn’t want the hassle of suing for what he was owed. Great interview!
@scsherman207 yeah. But nobody will think of this guy or no his name in a century from now or a millenia. But they most likely will those band mates 💁♂️ So you can see it however you like. I think being a green beret is badass and love and appreciation our soldiers. But I also understand it's in our DNA as men to want to leave a legacy. And to be fair. You call music trivial? Yet many times that music has MASSIVE impacts felt by millions and saves lives and changes them around or helps with mental strife and struggle. So if that to you is trivial I feel sorry cause it's far from it. It's just like the people who say "it's just a game" when talking about sports. Never considering how many children are saved or avoid horrible life paths or learn amazing traits because of sports. Like self accountability, structure, critical thinking, how to live for something more important then one's self and being apart of a group/community which vastly has a positive impact. And they don't even cover how sports bring together entire communities regardless of differences, races, politics and all that and has everyone rooting for one cause which helps keep communities doing well. So many people never can see the big picture in these things
@Steve Sherman Music is way cooler. Better to have fun than serve political greed. But yeah, drugs and living away from God is not worth it. Without God, even the green berets can't save you.
Everman was the bassist in OLD (previously called "Old Lady Drivers"), too. Check out their 'Lo Flux Tube' record. He's credited & pictured on there, although it was actually Plotkin (the guitarist) who laid down the bass tracks in the studio. Anyway, it's a good/crazy record.
This was a REALLY hard listen for me for THAT very reason. Joe was like a spark plug 😂😂😂 Dude would just stop talking and I was like... HELLO??? My app stop? Haha Then Rogan was finally like...AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED? 😅
@@bradydeangelo284 Exactly. Then it finally got rolling towards the last 30-40 minutes when the conversation was more philosophical. The beginning was ROUGH.
I will NEVER, EVER, forget the first time I heard "Outshined". I was an instant Soundgarden fan from that moment on. I also cried like a little girl when CC passed because I had a lot of great memories from the 90's while listening to Soundgarden 😢
Could Joe and Jaime PLEASE put a VR camera in one of the seats so that we can "sit" with every guest thru our VR headsets!? Please like this comment so that Jaime and Joe can see it!!!
I was his Drill Sergeant when he was in basic training. I could smoke them physically and he was like hummm ok still here. I talked to him alot because even back than he was very interesting. Different mentality than the others. His views were completely different and that is what was amazing.
I love hearing nirvana stories, it's hard to find new info I haven't already heard but Jason has new stories so that's nice. Thanks for having him on Joe❤
mine is not really much of a story but I saw them on their final Tour before Kurt died. Not a big Venue either which made it all the more special. Stabler Arena @ Lehigh University. The Breeders warmed up for the Nirvana set. one of the coolest concerts I ever attended. in 10th Grade...it was also my 1st.
I just started listening to you and my mind is blown you are amazingly smart and finally something I finally found a age appropriate and stimulating for me I am a 90 kid and needed all people aspects you bring to you show thank you I’m 39 and never really got on TH-cam until about four years ago because everything made me sick but now I get sick with out your show thanks 🙏
I can so relate to having my mother kick me out of the house in the morning and not having to return until the street lights came on. I did so much crazy, dangerous stuff-hunting, fishing from one bank of canals in the Everglades while alligators were sunning themselves on the opposite bank.
Alligator 1: See that kid alone across the canal? I hear them free-range kids taste _way_ better. Alligator 2: Sun's feeling too good right now. He's yours. Alligator 1: Nah, feel the same.
Same here. Like Jason said, growing up kinda feral in the country I did a lit of dangerous stuff, and got hurt. I made me tough and independent and smart and had a lot of fun doing it.
He was actually the reason why I decided to try out to be a green beret. Long story short, just a non select, but I remember reading about his journey when I deployed and that made me wanna try it
18X? I almost went for a rep63. I was hoping for 20th group. I backed out because I was not 110% sure it was for me. That little bit of doubt... Not sure if I made the right decision or not. I just re-read your post. I guess you wouldn't have been in the 18x program since it sounded like you were already in. Did your unit try to guilt trip you as if you were "abandoning" them?
@@Joe_Friday no not 18x, and honestly I was sent unprepared, so the program was supposed to be 6 months before the sfrb sent me from my base to selection. The sent me 3 weeks in, I was like 150 pounds soaking wet, not in amazing shape. I thought I was gonna be a week 1 drop, then I made week 2 and 3. I was honestly really proud of myself because i put a hunger out for something I never knew I could achieve. It's awesome when you find out that there is something deep in you that will push you past what you think you can achieve. I lost a strobe light in week 2, so iut of my class of 350, it was 30 of us left and they chose 15. Because I lost a strobe light I had a gig and that is it. I did have high peer reviews, I asked what got me to a cadre later in the day and he just told me. Was gonna do it again but pulled orders from germany and my body was hurting bad.
Yeah.. That’s why he was listed in the credits, as a way to say thanks. A better thank you would’ve been paying him back in full, but still, kinda cool
@@user-ux1vj9vx7s Is he not credited with royalties? I'd be real fuckin bitter if I'd fronted the bill for an album as iconic as Bleach and never recieve a cent off the millions of copies sold lol
Haven’t watched it all but been intrigued by him for 15 years. but I’ve read how he wanted to fulfill the laws of the well rounded man. Warrior artist philosopher. What a life
Jason Everman is a tremendous musician, and very underrated. He also played on Mindfunk "dropped", which is an album which should've been massive but wasn't marketed very well.
I was about to mention that, thanks for referencing it here! Actually also one of my favorite albums. I had the entire band including Jason sign on a dollar bill when I bumped into them at a Nudeswirl concert in SF in October 1993 -- the note is still in the jewel case of my CD.
This guy could write a book that could be a best seller. He seems to want to downplay some of his experiences but what an interesting life. I would love to hear more.
I found him a bit boring and mundane. Dude basically said at the end of the podcast he wanted to come on JR to promote his around the world boat tour. I think that caught Joe off guard.
@@410Gregjthe story is amazing, and possible untold stories are probably too, but I agree, it was told in such a mundane way, like he was bored of everything, it impacted the listening and experience for me. (Says a lot about me I guess- hes had an amazing life but it sounds like thats beaten the life out of him here- just my opinion)
I am so grateful I grew up around the same area. Life was so much easier then it is now. It’s beautiful is Washington. We literally have it all here within a few hours drive
Everman is one of a kind. Hardly anyone mentions the he was also in Old Lady Drivers playing bass on the album Lo Flux Tube. A mind melting album to say the very least, lol
If you look into Jason's life a little it seriously seems like he was apart of MKUltra. Maybe he leaves out alot of information because he doesn't remember it. The man played in MINDFUNK as well from 93-94 played big festivals did interviews on Headbangers Ball over in Europe. Why leave all that out
Been waiting for this guy to be on for years. I've read all about his life and talked about his crazy cool career with military buddies over the years. I'm doing my own version of what he did from military to MBA to my creative/artistic side.
I was recently reading a Chris Cornell biography, and Jason was mentioned in a few pages. He was considered too quiet for the band to handle that it annoyed the rest of the band. The same problem he had in Nirvana. They felt as though he was too distant and lacked a sense of humor. But all that time, he knew that he didn't want to be in a rock n roll band whatsoever. Had different dreams than the rest of the band members. Side note: He payed for the whole Bleach album session and was never reimbursed. Didn't even ask for his money back. Tells you a lot about what a good soul he has. Edit: I know everyone is going by quotes here and there, trust me I get it, but I just came back from reading Chris Cornell's biography this past January for the first time, I knew very little about Jason and the details as to why he was fired and these sources that I got my from information, came from the members of those bands and the people who were actually there. This is still freshly new information that a year ago I never knew before. After reading the biography and then seeing Jason on the Joe Rogan podcast, it's clearly obvious that he is a very shy and quiet dude. I'm an introvert myself so I can pick up the vibe he presents. Trust me read the book .. or don't. Lol.
That's weird, cause in an interview with Soundgarden in the 90s, Chris Cornell said that Everman was too outgoing as opposed to the rest of the band ,who "weren't exactly social butterflies."
Doesn't sound accurate to me. I highly doubt the guys in Soundgarden would fire someone because they were an introvert. It probably came down to he wasn't that good of a musician just like what happened to Pete Best with the Beatles. He obviously wanted to play in Soundgarden and would have stayed with the band if he had not been fired. Either way, he seems like a good dude.
@@tharp42 Go ahead and read Chris Cornell's biography called Total Fucking Godhead and it will explain in more details than just being a metal guy.. it was way more than just that.
@@shinybeast8946 I'll say this, if you read Chris Cornell's Total Fucking Godhead (a biography of his life up to his death, a really good book -- highly recommend it), it really gives you a in depth details of what kind of guy Jason was. He is by far a really cool dude, but a total buzz kill.
Yeah. I’ve been wanting Joe to have him on for years; been a fan of Jason since I read the article the New York Times did on him nearly a decade ago. Man has led a singular life.-
@@dylanswrld “and what happened next” Nobody is making you be here. Nobody put a gun to your head. If you didn’t want to tell your story then don’t come on a long format interview on a huge podcast. Not hard. I had to turn it off and not finish it because I was tired of hearing Joe asking him every 5min “and what happened then?”
@Oscar M dang that's disappointing I love Jason lifepath and I usually listen to these on Spotify at work I just so happened to see the clip on my TH-cam feed
Seattle was a backwater logging city in the 80s 90s. I’m the middle of nowhere. Even other bands didn’t go up there on tour that’s one reason why Seattle had its own little scene.
What a humble dude Chris Cornell is probably the greatest voice I've ever heard along with Freedie Mercury of course five octave range! Then there's Kurt's gutteral scream! Nirvana changed my life forever made me learn guitar and I felt such a connection to Cobain from his childhood, artistry and his struggles with addiction Love this story ❤
JOE PLEASE get more Seattle artists on... theres more to the music with the grunge artists. They re-wrote music history and turned the tides of music forever. Barret Martin, Jerry cantrell, Mike McCready, can't think of much more. All great dudes to talk with.
From Joe’s perspective this had to be one of the most difficult episodes he’s done. It really show cases Joe’s ability to keep the conversation alive and moving. I think sometimes we forget just how good of a conversationalist he is.
I saw Soundgarden with Jason on bass in LA in 1990 - they did two nights at two different clubs, and the second night was filmed and used as their Louder Than Love video.
i love people like this. thoughtful, well spoken, interesting and not without a sense of humor...this is the jre content i once became a fan of. glad to see its not all weird grifters these days.
This guys honesty integrity and humbleness makes the interview a bit painful getting answers out of him but I preferred that to be lied to for entertainment. Great stuff. Thank you Jason. Cool story.
I think interviews like this are the biggest reason Joe has become such a mega name. He finds incredibly interesting people, well known or not, and has the ability to speak with them in a way that gives the audience a pretty solid insight to their disposition. I had heard of Jason before and thought his story would be interesting to learn about, but never made the effort to do so. Thanks Joe for introducing us to yet another fascinating person.
100% agree
What I enjoy is FAKE THUMBS UP AND BULLSHITT COMMENTS
this comment is 10000% true dude
I agree with the two comments above. You said exactly what I was thinking 👍🏼👍🏼
It’s weird tho if you watch the episode all Joe does was ask “so what happened next” it was kind of annoying he usually has more to add
This guy has lived one hell of a life.
Found the right path in the end
The Chit ain't he?
I hope he believes in Jesus so his afterlife is fulfilled
@@jacobj6376 you mean joining the military industrial complex to fight for a governments control of oil and resources and regimen changes? So being brainwashed is the right path? 😂
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Jason was in nucleus of 2 bands that would go on to be legendary right before grunge burst, I’ve always wondered why he hasn’t been interviewed or sought after more. Such a fascinating person with an amazing story
Hey Eric. Love your channel.
Absolutely.
Incredible stories jason has . I preferred nirvana with more bare sound . Just the one guitar . Kurt managed pretty well but jason and Chad are the missing members . Snubbed from hall of fame ( when pat got inducted despite not playing on an album).
@@twomindz79 Pat did not get inducted. Channing should have though.
@@wantutosigh1117 he should have but I was glad that Dave mentioned all the previous drummers and made sure people knew that the drums on “In Bloom” was all Chad’s idea. Thought that was really cool and humble of him, basically saying “I just happened to come in at the right time, the others were just as important.”
because he is hard to get ahold of plain and simple.
I don’t think he wanted to be
This makes me miss Cornell even more! Jason hit nail on the head when he said CC was made to be a rock star. Had the looks, voice and was helluva good song writer.
Voice didn't last long though.
He sounded like shit after the 90's.
@@vorpalbladesheroin destroyed all the best singers voices look at Scott Weiland & Layne Staley
What a powerful music scene Seattle had in the 90's . so many bands doing well
The last great music generation....
@@bobbertee5945 Great music, but some shitty living. Think of all the idiots that had the world in their hands and died from heroin addiction...
Mark Lanegan
San diego was a powerful scene too in the 90s. Lots of great punk bands from here
Because it caught on and record labels were scrambling for the Seattle sound.. but they did dig up quite a few amazing song writers, and alot of other great ones got overlooked by mainstream .. I love 7 year bitch and the gits!
Jason actually paid the full fee for the production of the first Nirvana album Bleach. Only $606.17 dollars at the time. He was credited on the album, but didn't play on it. They also put him on the front cover. He played a huge role in Nirvana history . Also, think of how many Bleach albums were sold after Nevermind came out. Hope he gets paid his dues !!
He didn't play on it? Had no idea
If "Bleach" was a $606.17 share of stock he bought...He could've retired at 30 years old.
I also read the wikipedia page
I think in a interview with Rolling Stone he mentioned that he paid because he was the only one in the band that had the money and they promised to pay him back but never did. Bleach is my favorite Nirvana album so Im glad he did.
@@Terminxman Well done 👍
Jason is just like the coolest guy ever, adventure childhood, rockband, specialforces, the dude has done it all
COLUMBIA grad in Philosophy and did a pilgrimage to Tibet with monks a few years
Jason Everman’s tour with Nirvana in 1989 is one of the band’s most overlooked yet interesting periods of time, definitely look into the details of that tour if you’re a Nirvana fan
Hey Daniel, I'm subscribed to your channel dude. You have done a great job with it. The quality of your video's are amazing and you're a phenomenal interviewer.
@@westcoasthighway379 Hey man I really appreciate that! Means a lot :) Thanks for the support!
I subscribed to your channel yesterday too. Had to check your name when I seen it here.
The early days when they were in the UK is amazing.
I know you ! not personally but through grunge
This dude has the life story everyone wished they had but yet is so grounded. He seems true to himself and what he wants.
Wait are you talking about Jason Everman? Or you talking about Joe “Everyman” Rogan
@@CantTellYou yes
@@CantTellYou okay
You kidding? This dude is a trumper just like joe. Stop influencing fasicim.
How his contributions to Nirvana and Soundgarden was minimal to say the least
He didn’t even mention he went to an Ivy League university after his stint on the army. Certified badass
Which college?
@@pfossful Columbia
Dang that makes him even cooler and more well rounded. Definitely a certified badass.
@@kstrongtree22 makes him a tranny loving let's go die for Ukraine kinda guy
@Matty Kelly
Why are they called Ivy League?
The term 'Ivy League' was coined in 1937, by sports writer Caswell Adams in an article published in the New York Herald. Adams used the term as a reference to the powerful eastern football league, which was assembled by eight universities: Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Penn, Dartmouth, Cornell, Columbia and Brown.
Google is a helluva thing. You should try it sometime. You just type what you wrote in responses into a Google search engine and VOILA!! You get an answer right away. You don't have to wait for a kind soul like me to copy and paste the answer in a reply for you. 👏👏
" After breakfast I was kicked outside and not expected to be seen until dinner "....Basically sums up the majority of my childhood...
Glad to know my brother, and the kids from my town were not alone...Amazing Interview. Thanks Joe..
His life has been way more incredible than he leads it on to be. Humble guy
I agree.We went down the Ho River in an inflatable
Part of it is that Joe asks horrible music questions and doesn’t know even the baseline of who he’s interviewing. So many interesting questions that weren’t asked.
One of the few dudes who can say “oh btw I was also a Green Beret too”
@@killdizzle SF is kind of a joke
Archer, Rangers are hardcore dudes, but I’ve always felt that SF is where it’s at because those are the guys who have to be very smart besides being tough. A big part of SF training focuses on language and cultural training because SF are usually the guys making first contact with potential allies on the ground. Plenty of SF guys can do what Rangers do, but I doubt that too many Rangers can do what SF does.
AoNV >
I meet a "special forces" guy once every few months working in hotels, so many Walter Mittys. Glad to see occasionally they actually are what they say they are.
@@famebrightstudio451 here's a tip. Most wouldn't voluntarily give that information, much less to a stranger.
Nirvana. Soundgarden. Army Ranger. Just downplays it and humble. What a great American story. Respect
It didn’t stop at Ranger. He went full SF
And then an Ivy League degree
He was a green beret as well.
I remember seeing him with SG at Tipitina's for their first show there. He came out - hit his low string and caused a minor earthquake. I could not believe how loud and thunderous his bass was. Loved it. What a show. There were only 50 or so people there. They played Beyond the Wheel in almost total darkness - a blacklight lit behind Matt - and I thought I was witnessing witchcraft or the devil on earth. Killer stuff.
not to glorify drugs , I'm not but my 1st SG experience I was on LSD and the rest is much like you said , it was getting the best of me . or the LSD was either way it as special
I just listened to Beyond the Wheel when I was working out, thats how my Soundgarden mix starts. into Hunted Down and Superunknown
Same😮
I saw chris get his ass whipped outside the dungeon…that was a fun night
He wasn't a bass player....
Most powerful deadly stoner I have ever seen. Pure balance and harmony with himself and the universe
Wow. He was with Nirvana back in 88'-89' and Sound Garden in 93', right before both bands blew up! Very interesting timing. Regardless, still amazing experiences; especially, for me growing up as a teen in the 90's. So many good bands back then. Wish Kurt and Chris were still here.
Soundgarden had already been going for almost 10 years by 93, they were already massive dude!
Nah he was Soundgarden in 89-90. He didn't play on any albums.
I guess he was mentally stronger than both of them
He was in Soundgarden for one tour to promote the Loud Love album in 1990 and appeared in the music videos. He was quickly replaced by Ben Sheppard
Jason truly has had a one of a kind life and is a certified badass. As a massive fan of Soundgarden and Nirvana I’d love to hear more detail about his time in the bands, but from this clip it seems like he isn’t ready to go too far into that, maybe due to some unresolved feelings and resentment. Hopefully someday he will be ready to share his stories and bless the fans!
I've read a couple of interviews from musicians back then who said that Jason had a really bad temper. Could be why he's not getting that into it.
Apparently he got fired from both bands for being moody
@Richard Schiffman 😂 very true but a person still has to be somewhat...personable?...to get along in band for an extended time, especially ones like those that took it real seriously & were basically destined for BIG but challenging success
A lot of times, Jason would smash his bass on stage for no reason in Soundgarden, I think that didn't jell well with the rest of the band.
There's been stories from fans who got a chance to interact with Soundgarden during the 90s that have stated that nearly every member was extremely nice and laid back except for Cornell, who was an immature drunk wandering off in his own mind.
Congrats Joe.. you just got dialed back to Regular Joe status. Went from an awkward interview to one of the best in a long time. Love it
Fun fact: he also was in Mind Funk for their 2nd album, Dropped, from 93. One of my favorite albums. Not nearly the same name recognition, but an awesome stoner rock album.
Back then these bands ruled the world and had an incredible impact on my life. Man I miss those days
This guy knows so much more than he is letting on. Spends a lot of time choosing his words.
It's called being an adult and man you goof 🤦 your generation is used to just word vomit and saying things without thinking about what they are actually saying
Or he thinks before he speaks... kind of a common trait of Vets... which is such rarified air these days that people like you think there's something wrong with it.
@@JB-hq9yj Show me where I made fun of him or where I said there was something wrong with it. It never happened. Everything wrong with society is represented in your false claims.
I love how humble he is about his experiences and his journey.
My childhood was full of adventure. I left after breakfast and would b gone most of the day. Times were different growing up in the 1960s and 70s. Thank God no cell phones or computers.
Louder Than Live is still my favorite Soundgarden concert video. It goes hard from start to finish. Totally badass.
Not just a soldier, a freakin RANGER!! Thank you for your service!
And a Green Beret…. If only he’d started younger, he’d have gone CAG, no doubt…
@@scsherman207ypu dont know any CAG guys stop the cap
"Genetically engineered rockstar"
That is a good description of Chris.
What a legend. I remember hearing about this guy years ago, cool to hear him talk about his experience.
He is a true inspiration and great idol to look up too. Dude jammed with some of the best and kicked phucken ass with The Best. Thank you sir
thanks for killin' people, baby. in the name of chiquita banana.
He complains a lot
yes. without a doubt right!
What an inspiring human... Thank you for all you've done and do, Jason!
Jason is a very small but real part of Nirvana's story and it's cool to hear him speak about his experience.
Listened/watched the podcast on Spotify, had to come to TH-cam to give feedback - hands down the best JRE podcast ever!!! Jason Everman is the most remarkable journeyman ever (in the surname I guess), extremely insightful and able to convey really deep understandings. Thank you, Jason Everman!
Western Washington was a crazy place to grow up. Love this story of climbing high tension power lines! We would jump from the top of Hemlock trees, and ride the limbs down as they bent, but don't break, amazing wood fiber. Lots of Western Washington was near rain forest, little rain micro climates, getting like 80 or 90 inches of rain annually, well away from the real Olympic Rain Forest. When I was 4 or 5, I'd be climbing big maple trees, just hanging onto thick moss, and digging my feet in. These were monster trees, the first limbs being like 30 feet up. Thanks for making me think of the good parts of my childhood!
Fascinating, thanks for this. As a Soundgarden fan, brilliant to hear how much he liked them too.
Went to school with Jason. I really miss those days in Poulsbo Washington back in the 80's
I remember reading an article about this dude Jason years ago. So cool to actually see and hear him. His story is impressive yet he seems modest - does not need recognition or validation from anyone despite the exceptional things he's done. Freaking solid man!
Toward the end of this interview, he says he didn’t even get paid royalties for playing on material on the Nirvana box set released in 2004. He said he didn’t want the hassle of suing for what he was owed. Great interview!
This was a phenomenal interview. Genuine dude
I'm 34, the Johnny Quest part invoked a deep memory of the show I haven't thought of in almost 30 years lol. It is a great show.
What a transition, rock star to a bad ass soldier. And he’s got a really chill vibe that I dig. Glad I heard your story!
So glad he’s on. I’ve always wanted to know more of his story.
I was stoked to see Jason made it onto Rogan. This guy would have a million stories to tell from the Nirvana and Soundgarden days, fascinating stuff.
I discovered Jason Everman years ago and even tried to do a little research on him but only found one interview he did. Thank you Joe!
You can tell that those days really broke his heart.
Imagine being in 2 of the world's biggest bands and leaving before the ultimately became mega famous
@scsherman207 yeah. But nobody will think of this guy or no his name in a century from now or a millenia. But they most likely will those band mates 💁♂️
So you can see it however you like. I think being a green beret is badass and love and appreciation our soldiers. But I also understand it's in our DNA as men to want to leave a legacy.
And to be fair. You call music trivial? Yet many times that music has MASSIVE impacts felt by millions and saves lives and changes them around or helps with mental strife and struggle. So if that to you is trivial I feel sorry cause it's far from it. It's just like the people who say "it's just a game" when talking about sports. Never considering how many children are saved or avoid horrible life paths or learn amazing traits because of sports. Like self accountability, structure, critical thinking, how to live for something more important then one's self and being apart of a group/community which vastly has a positive impact.
And they don't even cover how sports bring together entire communities regardless of differences, races, politics and all that and has everyone rooting for one cause which helps keep communities doing well.
So many people never can see the big picture in these things
@Steve Sherman Music is way cooler. Better to have fun than serve political greed. But yeah, drugs and living away from God is not worth it. Without God, even the green berets can't save you.
@@chaoticchaos894 soundgarden was already pretty big then but not like superunknown big but still big
@Steve Sherman Yeah imagine dedicating your life to art and having fun versus being a piece of meat used by the government to kill people
What an amazing journey…. So many experiences and truthful lessons… much respect 💯
Everman was the bassist in OLD (previously called "Old Lady Drivers"), too. Check out their 'Lo Flux Tube' record. He's credited & pictured on there, although it was actually Plotkin (the guitarist) who laid down the bass tracks in the studio. Anyway, it's a good/crazy record.
He was also in a band called MINDFUNK in 1993-94. Saw him being interviewed on Head Bangers Ball in like Holland.
Joe really showed off his skill in this pod. He was constantly having to keep the story going.
This was a REALLY hard listen for me for THAT very reason. Joe was like a spark plug 😂😂😂 Dude would just stop talking and I was like... HELLO??? My app stop? Haha Then Rogan was finally like...AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED? 😅
@@bradydeangelo284 Exactly. Then it finally got rolling towards the last 30-40 minutes when the conversation was more philosophical. The beginning was ROUGH.
Dude is a reluctant storyteller because all of his insane stories seem like some day in his life shit
Joe knew 0 of the name drops this dude was making. 😂
@opluxna2120 It seems like he also doesnt want to acknowledge why he actually got fires twice.
I've been waiting for Everman to get on ANY podcast forever
I’m so glad he finally made it on . He’s a legend
I will NEVER, EVER, forget the first time I heard "Outshined". I was an instant Soundgarden fan from that moment on. I also cried like a little girl when CC passed because I had a lot of great memories from the 90's while listening to Soundgarden 😢
What a gift his voice & intensity were to us
Could Joe and Jaime PLEASE put a VR camera in one of the seats so that we can "sit" with every guest thru our VR headsets!? Please like this comment so that Jaime and Joe can see it!!!
Goes from being in Nirvana, Soundgarden to Military to being a Green Beret that’s a Badass Life
Not to mention a stint as a Ranger in the 2/75th Ranger Regiment.
This episode made me download Spotify I needed to hear this guy's story what a life
I was his Drill Sergeant when he was in basic training. I could smoke them physically and he was like hummm ok still here. I talked to him alot because even back than he was very interesting. Different mentality than the others. His views were completely different and that is what was amazing.
Sure dude. 😂
@@elcid6301 I know, right. Lol
@@elcid6301 lol
I love hearing nirvana stories, it's hard to find new info I haven't already heard but Jason has new stories so that's nice. Thanks for having him on Joe❤
mine is not really much of a story but I saw them on their final Tour before Kurt died. Not a big Venue either which made it all the more special. Stabler Arena @ Lehigh University. The Breeders warmed up for the Nirvana set. one of the coolest concerts I ever attended. in 10th Grade...it was also my 1st.
@@Original-Juice that's awesome, I never got to see them sadly but I'm always a fan and I cover alot of nirvana songs
@@Original-Juice saw them at a small venue also in '93. William and Mary Hall in Va. Breeders opened for them.
I would LOVE to see Krist Novoselic on JRE!!
Jason - thank you for sharing your story. Heck we all wanted to be in those bands.
Loved this interview, grounded and hard working human being 👍🏽
This dude is a certified OG 🔥
oh you want me to talk about the main reason you had me on? i wasn't ready for that.
I just started listening to you and my mind is blown you are amazingly smart and finally something I finally found a age appropriate and stimulating for me I am a 90 kid and needed all people aspects you bring to you show thank you I’m 39 and never really got on TH-cam until about four years ago because everything made me sick but now I get sick with out your show thanks 🙏
I can so relate to having my mother kick me out of the house in the morning and not having to return until the street lights came on. I did so much crazy, dangerous stuff-hunting, fishing from one bank of canals in the Everglades while alligators were sunning themselves on the opposite bank.
Alligator 1: See that kid alone across the canal? I hear them free-range kids taste _way_ better.
Alligator 2: Sun's feeling too good right now. He's yours.
Alligator 1: Nah, feel the same.
Same here. Like Jason said, growing up kinda feral in the country I did a lit of dangerous stuff, and got hurt. I made me tough and independent and smart and had a lot of fun doing it.
He was actually the reason why I decided to try out to be a green beret. Long story short, just a non select, but I remember reading about his journey when I deployed and that made me wanna try it
Respect
18X? I almost went for a rep63. I was hoping for 20th group. I backed out because I was not 110% sure it was for me. That little bit of doubt... Not sure if I made the right decision or not. I just re-read your post. I guess you wouldn't have been in the 18x program since it sounded like you were already in. Did your unit try to guilt trip you as if you were "abandoning" them?
respect for sending it
You bitched out🤣 I get it brother! I did my ranger training in FT Benning and came damn near to bitching out.
@@Joe_Friday no not 18x, and honestly I was sent unprepared, so the program was supposed to be 6 months before the sfrb sent me from my base to selection. The sent me 3 weeks in, I was like 150 pounds soaking wet, not in amazing shape. I thought I was gonna be a week 1 drop, then I made week 2 and 3. I was honestly really proud of myself because i put a hunger out for something I never knew I could achieve. It's awesome when you find out that there is something deep in you that will push you past what you think you can achieve. I lost a strobe light in week 2, so iut of my class of 350, it was 30 of us left and they chose 15. Because I lost a strobe light I had a gig and that is it. I did have high peer reviews, I asked what got me to a cadre later in the day and he just told me. Was gonna do it again but pulled orders from germany and my body was hurting bad.
as a 90's kid... perfect guest.
Loved this interview, grounded and hard working human being
This dude is very modest with his story and words. Hes lived the life of an old man but hes being very humble, not speaking about much. Respect.
What an incredible story this guy has.
He’s being reserved out of respect. I really appreciate that.
This podcast was sooo good! Started out a bit rough. But turned into a gem!
This is one of those stories that would be turned down in entertainment but is so compelling and awesome!
saw him live with Soundgarden on the Louder than Love tour. His picture is on the CD but I think Hiro played on the album.
Yeah, he toured with them from 1989-1990, but never played on an album.
Hiro is pictured on the cover. Jason was in the press photos and videos for the album.
Another fun fact, Jason Everman paid for the studio time to record Bleach .
Also, he's on the album cover but he doesn't actually play anywhere on the album.
Yeah.. That’s why he was listed in the credits, as a way to say thanks. A better thank you would’ve been paying him back in full, but still, kinda cool
@@user-ux1vj9vx7s I'd much rather be mentioned on Bleach than to be paid back $606.17 😶
@@user-ux1vj9vx7s Is he not credited with royalties? I'd be real fuckin bitter if I'd fronted the bill for an album as iconic as Bleach and never recieve a cent off the millions of copies sold lol
Knowing you are one of us helps Jay. TY for this.
Haven’t watched it all but been intrigued by him for 15 years. but I’ve read how he wanted to fulfill the laws of the well rounded man. Warrior artist philosopher. What a life
So many interesting people in this world and JR is the MASTER of finding them and helping them tell their story. 👏👏👏
Jason Everman is a tremendous musician, and very underrated. He also played on Mindfunk "dropped", which is an album which should've been massive but wasn't marketed very well.
thanks!
Out of my 2000 CD collection MINDFUNK album Dropped is my favourite of all time ... # 1 ✊ 🎸😎
I was about to mention that, thanks for referencing it here! Actually also one of my favorite albums. I had the entire band including Jason sign on a dollar bill when I bumped into them at a Nudeswirl concert in SF in October 1993 -- the note is still in the jewel case of my CD.
This guy could write a book that could be a best seller. He seems to want to downplay some of his experiences but what an interesting life. I would love to hear more.
I found him a bit boring and mundane. Dude basically said at the end of the podcast he wanted to come on JR to promote his around the world boat tour. I think that caught Joe off guard.
@@410Gregj - No it didn't; he said it in a very humble way and Joe had no problem with it at all.
@@410Gregjthe story is amazing, and possible untold stories are probably too, but I agree, it was told in such a mundane way, like he was bored of everything, it impacted the listening and experience for me. (Says a lot about me I guess- hes had an amazing life but it sounds like thats beaten the life out of him here- just my opinion)
I am so grateful I grew up around the same area. Life was so much easier then it is now. It’s beautiful is Washington. We literally have it all here within a few hours drive
listen to this on my 32km long run today. Such a good podcast. Enjoyed it.
This guy's life is so much cooler and more amazing than any of the band life he could have kept having. Incredible.
Subjective
Why?
Idk being a rockstar is pretty cool
Everman is one of a kind. Hardly anyone mentions the he was also in Old Lady Drivers playing bass on the album Lo Flux Tube. A mind melting album to say the very least, lol
If you look into Jason's life a little it seriously seems like he was apart of MKUltra. Maybe he leaves out alot of information because he doesn't remember it. The man played in MINDFUNK as well from 93-94 played big festivals did interviews on Headbangers Ball over in Europe. Why leave all that out
Thanks for your service, Jason Everman.
Speed Racer and Johnny Quest - wow! That is such a memory.
This guy has experienced so much. So great.
Also his mom sounds awesome!
Been waiting for this guy to be on for years. I've read all about his life and talked about his crazy cool career with military buddies over the years. I'm doing my own version of what he did from military to MBA to my creative/artistic side.
I was recently reading a Chris Cornell biography, and Jason was mentioned in a few pages. He was considered too quiet for the band to handle that it annoyed the rest of the band. The same problem he had in Nirvana. They felt as though he was too distant and lacked a sense of humor. But all that time, he knew that he didn't want to be in a rock n roll band whatsoever. Had different dreams than the rest of the band members. Side note: He payed for the whole Bleach album session and was never reimbursed. Didn't even ask for his money back. Tells you a lot about what a good soul he has.
Edit: I know everyone is going by quotes here and there, trust me I get it, but I just came back from reading Chris Cornell's biography this past January for the first time, I knew very little about Jason and the details as to why he was fired and these sources that I got my from information, came from the members of those bands and the people who were actually there. This is still freshly new information that a year ago I never knew before. After reading the biography and then seeing Jason on the Joe Rogan podcast, it's clearly obvious that he is a very shy and quiet dude. I'm an introvert myself so I can pick up the vibe he presents. Trust me read the book .. or don't. Lol.
Kurt didn't like him because he thought Jason was too "metal."
That's weird, cause in an interview with Soundgarden in the 90s, Chris Cornell said that Everman was too outgoing as opposed to the rest of the band ,who "weren't exactly social butterflies."
Doesn't sound accurate to me. I highly doubt the guys in Soundgarden would fire someone because they were an introvert. It probably came down to he wasn't that good of a musician just like what happened to Pete Best with the Beatles. He obviously wanted to play in Soundgarden and would have stayed with the band if he had not been fired. Either way, he seems like a good dude.
@@tharp42 Go ahead and read Chris Cornell's biography called Total Fucking Godhead and it will explain in more details than just being a metal guy.. it was way more than just that.
@@shinybeast8946 I'll say this, if you read Chris Cornell's Total Fucking Godhead (a biography of his life up to his death, a really good book -- highly recommend it), it really gives you a in depth details of what kind of guy Jason was. He is by far a really cool dude, but a total buzz kill.
You can hear the genuineness in his voice.
This is one truly amazing human being!
I've always thought Jason would be an amazing guest, so glad to see this
except joe had to pull every word out of him
Yeah. I’ve been wanting Joe to have him on for years; been a fan of Jason since I read the article the New York Times did on him nearly a decade ago. Man has led a singular life.-
But you were wrong
@@dylanswrld “and what happened next”
Nobody is making you be here. Nobody put a gun to your head. If you didn’t want to tell your story then don’t come on a long format interview on a huge podcast. Not hard. I had to turn it off and not finish it because I was tired of hearing Joe asking him every 5min “and what happened then?”
@Oscar M dang that's disappointing I love Jason lifepath and I usually listen to these on Spotify at work I just so happened to see the clip on my TH-cam feed
Seattle was a backwater logging city in the 80s 90s. I’m the middle of nowhere. Even other bands didn’t go up there on tour that’s one reason why Seattle had its own little scene.
@Steve Sherman Still it was geographically and culturally isolate from the rest of the country which made us all entertain ourselves (I'm from there).
@Steve Sherman Uh, I grew up there you nitwit. Jog on.
Aberdeen was a backwoods logging city, I grew in West Seattle during the late 80’s through the 90’s it was not at all a backwoods logging city lol
What a humble dude Chris Cornell is probably the greatest voice I've ever heard along with Freedie Mercury of course five octave range! Then there's Kurt's gutteral scream! Nirvana changed my life forever made me learn guitar and I felt such a connection to Cobain from his childhood, artistry and his struggles with addiction
Love this story ❤
That’s crazy about the rafting! I remember taking an inflatable kayak down Boxcar on the Deschutes River in Oregon 🤘
JOE PLEASE get more Seattle artists on... theres more to the music with the grunge artists. They re-wrote music history and turned the tides of music forever. Barret Martin, Jerry cantrell, Mike McCready, can't think of much more. All great dudes to talk with.
From Joe’s perspective this had to be one of the most difficult episodes he’s done. It really show cases Joe’s ability to keep the conversation alive and moving. I think sometimes we forget just how good of a conversationalist he is.
Dude didn’t want to talk did he? I wondered how he even got on the show
Thank you for your service
I saw Soundgarden with Jason on bass in LA in 1990 - they did two nights at two different clubs, and the second night was filmed and used as their Louder Than Love video.
i love people like this. thoughtful, well spoken, interesting and not without a sense of humor...this is the jre content i once became a fan of. glad to see its not all weird grifters these days.
So humble for such a Extraordinary life he's been through!
It's wild that the 2 guys he didn't work well with, both ended up taking their own lives
Hmmmmm
"taking their own lives"
Or did they? Mmmmm
PLOT TWIST: he killed them both!
DUN DUN DUUUUUUUUUUUUN !!!
Man joe and Jason?! What a great show! I thoroughly enjoyed this program cheers to you both.. 💪
This guys honesty integrity and humbleness makes the interview a bit painful getting answers out of him but I preferred that to be lied to for entertainment.
Great stuff. Thank you Jason. Cool story.