Master-batching Oils and Lye Why I do it this way!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ต.ค. 2024
- I first tried Master-batching in 2018 and ran into a number of issues. To this day, I still don't like using the more common ways of Master-batching so I thought of a way that suits my way of soaping. I thought I would take you along and show you how I master batch and explain the issues I have overcome by doing it this way as many others may find this an easier way too.
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You really are an Angel on Earth for always being so honest with the things that have not worked for you and for always being so kind in sharing with us all 💜
Thank you 🧡 I think its important to share what doesn't work as others may be feeling the same way.
This is exactly what I do with my lye. Keeps it simple when your recipe is the same for all. Thanks for this very well explained video :)
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So pleased yt popped up your video. Completely agree with you in regards to leaving master batch lye about with concern of accident. Here in California, always being mindful of earthquakes, prepared lye stays in commercial sinks overnight only, unless in use. Possible idea for you to use the fresh warm lye to heat hard oils allowing Soaping to commence with no waiting. ~ If you don't mind my asking: How your city / country responds to your business at home?
Oh gosh, I'm so pleased that is not an added concern for us! I have felt earthquakes but only trembles where you question what it was for 5 seconds before moving on.
I have tried the heat transfer method but not a fan of it. Must try again though.
I'm lucky where I live as I can quite easily have a home business. There are several in out street and local area. As long as we are respectful of neighbours, we can usually run a business with no problems. Not all local areas are the same though. The neighbouring council frowns upon home businesses
Here in Texas, I’ve learned to weight out my oils and leave them on my deck in the sun. Amazing the energy I save by pre heating naturally.
That's a great tip. Sadly I can't leave items outside my shop - we have too many cheeky birds here not to mention people who would want to touch it.
@@SoyandShea oh we’ve got birds and bugs. I just cover it with a giant glass lid for my skillet. Heats up quick and clean. Texas heat has to have some redeeming factor. This is just about it.
I’m a bit late to the party but thanks! This is so much easier to understand.
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Thanks for the explanation!! Like the way you do it
Thank you 🧡 it definitely made it more enjoyable for me
Thanks so much for this information on Master batching oils and lye water. I’ve been watching as many videos on this subject and you are the first one to give a lot of information on the Lye water prep. Love your videos💞💞💞
Thank you for watching 🧡 I found information on lye was hard to find when master batching
Thank you for your insight on Master batching lye.
Thank you for watching.
I have had the same issue as well. At first, I thought I was over thinking it, but then again, I also didn't want to waste, or at the risk of wasting, my oils and lye, by messing up somehow. I also was put off of it until I found my own way of master batching that made sense to me, as you did here. Such an interesting and informative video. Thanks for putting it out there! I'm sure it helps makes sense of it all to alot of other soap makers!
So much of what we do is finding what works best for us. As long as we're not being dangerous, there really is not right or wrong ways
Even tho I’m a MP soaper, I thoroughly enjoy your video’s, thank you for sharing your tips
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FINALLY!! Someone talks about the lye solution heating back up!! I, too, tried masterbatching lye because "it's faster," and like you, I also found it to be a waste of time because I had to wait on my solution to cool back down after I added the rest of the water. I quit masterbatching lye and now I do heat transfer. So much faster, and it works for me, because I want my oils to be fresh, but I'm not a consistent soaper (only maybe twice a month).
It's definitely something that is not talked about it in most videos. Occasionally if there is a follow on video, it gets explained but you don't always see them if your not looking for it.
I have tried the heat transfer method but it's not a method I enjoy. I'm not sure if it's got to do with out weather conditions affecting how the soap behaves.
Thank you so much. I also used to have the same problems as you when masterbatching the lye solution at 1:1. Will definitely be giving it another go :-)
I hope it helps. It does make it easier to have a master batch
Thank you for this video! And you are right its not explained correctly!❤❤❤
Thank you for watching 🧡 hope it helped
Thank you for sharing this Keeley. I’ve started masterbatching recently (on a much smaller scale 🤣) but I find it really useful, especially if you just want to do a small tester batch...or if you have a small mould. I have some moulds which take 825g of oils...which is a pain to weigh the oils because of the small amounts!
Thank you for watching 🧡 I'm with you on uneven numbers. I always round to an even number and then have samples
Thank you so much for the explanation of how you master batch your lye solution. I haven’t seen anyone explain it this away before. I had the same concerns about adding the additional liquid to my oils. So I came to the same conclusion as you for the lye solution tank that I’m going to purchase soon. Thank you again.
It's such a great way of doing it and I still do it this way now. I just wish I could find a lye tank here to store it in.
It took me quite some time to find a company in the US that had one at a decent price and good quality. Hope you find one soon. I’ll let you know if I come across anything I your region or area. Happy soaping
@@gigissoaperyandmore thank you 😊
Thanks for the being so informative. I was put off master batching lye, but yours makes so much more sense 😊
I'm happy it has helped. It can be enjoyable to Master batch once you have a way that works for you.
GREAT INFO!!! Thanks for sharing your gotchas!
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Good morning … thanks for this ….. masterbatching makes soap making so easy, I tend to use Lisa’s calculations as I love to be able to make very small amounts for embeds etc …. Have a great day 🧼🧼🧼🧼🐝
Yes Master batching does make it so much easier. I use my master batch for embeds and piping too so I can make as I feel like it.
Love this video. I had the same problem when I tried master batching.
I've just seen your recipe on your sheet and would you believe it, our recipe is almost identical! I have cocoa instead of Shea but everything else is the same. Even the ratios are almost identical. Even to the point of your lye concentration AND that your oil weight comes to 1700g!! Mind blown!!✊🙈🙉🙊🤯😅🤩
It's a small world. It's why you do see so many similar soaps. Not because we copy but because we all think alike 🧡
A very good video with tips for newbies that have never master batched. 👍 I have always master batched my lye water solution at my usual strength and I have never had any issues. Special recipes, I make it fresh to accommodate my changes. I don't like tons of extra containers to wash is the reason why, as I always hand wash all my dishes. 😒 Proper labeling, like you say, and a stable wide bottom chemical resistant container, with a tight lid, is a must. Awesome video, again.
Cheers and Blessings 💕💕
Thank you 🧡 I definitely find it easier master batching at usual strength and making fresh for the unusual soaps.
I master batch...I LOVE it! I make ready-to-use Lye Solution...about two gallons at a time, stored in gallon jugs in the back of my soap cart. I make up 640 oz of oil/butter at a time...goes in a 5-gal bucket. I use a commercial paint stirrer on a drill. During the Spring/Summer it’s the consistency of pancake batter, during the Fall/Winter, it’s more like cornbread batter. And when it comes time to make soap, I keep it simple. I have a spreadsheet on the wall that has every mold and it tells me how much oil/butter and how much Lye Solution I need. When it’s time to make soap, I stir the oil/butters well, but I don’t whip it. I then weigh my bowl, tare the scale, then take my ladle that hold about 4 oz and scoop, add xx number...weigh, adjust. Put it in the microwave for 20 to 40 seconds per pound depending on the weather. I then pour my Lye Solution and then I rock and roll.
Sounds like how I do it. Just not a way often talked about or shared
@@SoyandShea - I’m always happy to share how “I” do things, but I do make it a point to tell folks that I don’t recommend doing it until 1) you’ve been making soap for at least a year, and 2) that you have a solid recipe under your belt. I think some people feel that it’s cheating or it’s boring, but it’s just making efficient use of your time.
For me, it’s was a necessity. I work full-time and at the time I started MBing, I also had a 2 1/2 commute so I didn’t have time in the evening to make soap. Then the weekend would come along with housework, shopping, laundry and after making a couple of small batches...I was done. The spirit was willing, but the body said no...no more measuring, no more melting, nor more ice cubes or heat transfer. But with MBing...making soap is a breeze. Of course I do have to refill my buckets and jugs, but that can be done in between loads of laundry.
There are limitations to MBing...like adding additives. I use Sodium Lactate and Kaolin Clay, but add them later. And you can’t MB a goat milk Lye Solution.
@@LadyGecko sharing is always good. The only videos and information I found when I looking was using the 1:1 ratio which just didn't work for me 🧡
@@SoyandShea - It didn’t work for me either. The math isn’t difficult, but I didn’t want to make a mistake and end up with a lye-heavy soap. The advantage of master batching is just to be able to get in there and make soap.
Great!! Thank you. -Momo
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Excellent information that's not out there anywhere! Thanks so much, Keeley!! Hugz, Tree
Thank you 🧡 it was why I struggled with it so much. Didn't mind the calculations but all the little hiccups along the way made it unpleasant
Thank you so much that was super helpful! 🥰
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Keeley. I fully agree with your process it is much simpler and less risk of error. I’ll never need to do master batching as not selling but I think this will really be useful to those who do. Well done and thank you for sharing.
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Very helpful! Thank you!
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Thank you so much for sharing.
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Thank you for sharing all your thoughts through this process--very helpful! And using the square buckets is a space saver too.
Thank you for watching 🧡 the square buckets are great as they stack well when empty or full
Thank you so much for sharing this info! I was masterbatching my oils and lye solution and was getting a super fast trace within seconds and couldn't figure out what I was doing wrong. So frustrating. I'm going to try your tip and add my extra water during light trace. That makes a lot of sense to me. Thanks again =)
I'm not sure if my theory is right but it makes sense in my head 😆 hope it helps
Great explanation... Thank you for sharing 👍. I too have tried the 1:1 ratio of lye master batching... But struggled a lot in the math to calculate the remaining liquid amount when actually making soap of various batch size...so I quit master batching. Now I only master batch my oils n prepare fresh lye using ice cubes to save sometime
Try doing it this way. When you have different size batches, run through soapcalc and add up the lye and water amounts to know how much you need to pour off 😊
@@SoyandShea Sure...will try out definitely. 👍 Have a good day
Great tips, thanks for sharing
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It's so weird that you get acceleration like that. As you'd know, that's how I make all my soap. Have you tried stick blending your extra liquid into your oils before adding the lye? I always do that with my GM and my batter can stay pretty fluid for quite awhile (dependent on FO of course). Glad you showed another way to do things though. New and experienced soapers can always find things like this helpful, and the more info we get out there, the more awesome everyone's soaps will be :) And whoever gave this a thumbs down is a dick :/
It is interesting. My only thought would be that the goats milk may emulsify with the oils more than when just water is added. I don't even know if my theory had any credit 😆
I honestly think there are bots out there putting 👎it's still an interaction so never bothers me.
@@SoyandShea I'll give water a go and see if it makes a difference for me :)
@@wickedlee it will behave for you 🤣🤣🤣
Your masterbatching makes so much more sense to me, I wonder if the hard oils would stay liquid in our winter I New Zealand? I will have to give it a go. Thanks Keely
The hard oils don't set solid but they do get thicker. I find a quick blitz with the stick blender before pouring off helps. I'd they are too cool, I then put that little bit in the microwave for 10-20seconds
Thanks Keely, I will definately give it a go 👍
Thank you!! So helpful!!
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Thanks so much for this very informative video!!! I desperately needed this educational lesson!!! I just received my loaf mold with silicon liner and two cutters!!! I have used soapcalc to play and create a soap recipe that I feel will be great, fingers crossed that it works!!
Happy soaping!
Thank you for your very helpful tutorial! I can see the benefit of master batching. I have made a few mistakes by accidentally mismatching the amount of oils to lye and the more streamlined the process, the better.
Thank you 🧡 happy to hear this helps
Does it matter that the premade lye solution is cold/room temp? Thank you for your vids, love them!
I soap at room temperature, so this isn't an issue for me. You can easily heat lye water by warming slowly in a microwave if you soap warmer.
Thank you so much. I "get it" now.
Happy I could help 🧡
Great video - master batching definitely saves me time 😀
It does now 😆 I used to get so frustrated with how the soap behaved when I originally tried but this way suits me well
Wow ! Keely thank you for that information. That is a fantastic idea. I'm gonna give your way a try.
Thank you for watching 🧡 hope you enjoy this way
Thank you so much for your in depth explanation!
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Thank you so much Keely!! This is a brilliant explanation and much easier I think.
Thank you 🧡 hope it helps
That was very helpful Keeley. I get it now. Thank you
Thank you 🧡 I will cover more of this on Patreon on coming months
This was very helpful. Thank you for sharing 😊
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Awesome info Keeley 👍
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This was an amazing video! Thankyou Keeley.
Thank you 🧡
Love the info. Quick question, the hard oils, do they harden again after melting and combining with liquid oils in the container? Thanks Keeley
They don't set solid but they do thicken up. Before pouring out my oils, I'll give a quick mix with the stick blender and the heat of the mixing melt it and combine them again
Yes! That’s how I do the lye water also! I think we could be friends!! Ha!
🧡 it is definitely easier doing it this way
Great video Keeley! I'm going to use your method of master-batching my soap today. I'm wondering about the lye solution though. I dissolve sugar in my water before adding the lye, can I still do this when master-batching the lye solution?
Thank you 🧼 yes you can add additives into you batch. I've done this without issue
This was very informative. Can you masterbatch with additives, such as citric acid or tussah silk?
Yes you can. I always add my silk to my lye water. I would add Sodium Lactate too but sometimes I don't need it.
@@SoyandShea thank you for your time & response
Hi Keeley
Thank you so much for the info.
How long would I be able to store the lye batch and mixed oil batch for ?
And do you need to warm up anything like lye or oils before soaping ?
What degree do you soap this way at ?
I usually don't store mine long as I'm constantly making. I know you can store lye for quite a long time as long as stored correctly. In terms of temperature, it depends what you soap at and what works best for your oils. What I soap at may not work for you.
Very nice! thanks for sharing such precious info! Just one question, What about temperatures when master batching, Once a have my Lye and oils master bached can I just use these as let's say room temperature to make my soap? Thanks!
I only soap at room temperature, so I master batch and let cool to use the next day or when needed
@@SoyandShea Grazie mille!
Great approach to master batching, so glad I came across this video. Question, what was it you added to your lye solution? Wasn't able to make it out. Thank you!
Thank you 🧡 I add Tuscan Silk to my solution. It gives a smooth silky feel to the soap
Hi J Parker. I know this is an old post. Keeley's autocorrect must've made a boo boo. It's Tussah Silk she adds to the lye solution.
Hi Keeley , I have another question pls. Can you add citric acid and sodium lactate to the master batch of Lye ?
I usually add my sodium lactate just before making. I dont use Citric acid so not sure how it affects bulk batching
Hello :) Thank you very much for your video. I think you brought up some things that I actually been thinking about as well. I had a question. Is masterbatching for use over a period of time? Or is masterbatching for making large amounts of soap immediately/at once? The reason I ask is because I was wondering what we are to do when the lye solution cools down and there is still soap to be made with the oil solution? What is your suggestion for making large amounts of soap (about 500 bars) from a home kitchen? Is it possible to make that amount of soap at once? I am not sure how to go about doing this. Is there a stockpot and materials that you can suggest using? Thank you so much.
I generally batch enough oil and lye to last me one to two weeks. I dont like to keep mine any longer but people do. As I soap at room temperature it doesn't matter if my lye is cold/room temperature. If you are looking to make that much masterbatch, I would invest in a oil tank to minimise the amount of storage space.
@@SoyandShea thank you so much! I am just seeing your message ;) thanks again
Thank you, this topic was on my mind. How long can we store lye that way?
I personally never store for more than a couple of weeks. I would suspect it can be stored longer as you can buy lye tanks which hold a lot more solution and would take longer to use.
Do the hard oils in your master batch solidify again when left for a week or so?
No they don't solidify on me but I think that may be because our temperatures are quite mild and I keep my workshop locked at night so it stays quite warm
j'aime beaucoup ta vidéo . j'ai essayé le masterbatching pour les huiles. mais pour la soude non parce que je ne sais pas comment calculer la différence entre le 50/50 masterbatching of lye et mon utilisation de soude qui en général tourne autour de 30 %. ça me semble bien compliqué même si l'idée de pouvoir y rajouter du liquide supplémentaire est bienvenue.
I will try to do another video in the future showing how to calculate work out how much Lye solution and additional water you need when master batching at the 1:1 ration
@@SoyandShea waouhhhhh génial. J'attends avec impatience merciiii
Isnt the lye water solution supposed to be warm when making soap? How is this achieved when masterbatching
It really depends how you prefer to soap. If you do the heat transfer method, then the lye can be made fresh as its used hot to melt the oils and butters. Some people soap warm but I prefer to soap at room temperature which is between 21-27°c. If you prefer to soap warm, you just need to gently heat in the microwave.
I only "masterbatch the oils", I'm too afraid of having a lye solution just sitting there without supervision trusting none will touch it, get curious or be clumpsy...🙈🙈
I know what you mean. I am lucky with my work space that this isn't to much of an issue. Plus hubby asks me of something is soap or food - learned the hard way 😆
Mam my laundry soap bar is dry hand after use
Most laundry soaps are designed to clean material and don't consider the users hands.
@@SoyandShea Okk mam ...happens in all
Completely confused 😕
If you could explain a little about what has confused you, perhaps I could explain a little more. Have you ever master batched before?
Thank you so much for this! Very helpful!
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