I greatly appreciate the no BS real life assessment to include the money analysis. That's pretty incredible and honestly what is missing from the review space. Nice work!
I just got the Fenix 8 43mm AMOLED a week ago. I had the Fenix 7S. And its a huge upgrade for me! I loveeee the new Fenix 8!! It's just so much better. There's alot of upgrades for me! The Fenix 8 is just everything!
@@ceciliafourie334 yes that's what I was trying to convey, it's all the subtle differences that add up to a different experience across-the-board, for me at least. Thank you so much for commenting and glad you are loving it!
@michaelgiammarino7313 Hi Micheal! The 43mm fits perfectly on my wrist. Using a nylon band also sometimes and no problems. Really have only great and awesome things to say about the Fenix 8! Had the 6 and 7 also. But the Fenix 8 is just chefs' kiss!
I just subscribed cuz, you speak with logic and give total honesty about your opinion .. Have a variety of perspectives. Thank you for that + thanks for sharing ❤ - I forgot to add, i just bought the Fenix 8. It is expensive but, im looking forward for the premium experience.
It's been driving me crazy that I haven't seen anyone put it in this context/POV, until now. You put it perfectly. It is a lot of small very noticeable upgrades and twiks that together make a big difference. I got Epix Pro for $650 new, and I'm still debating if I should've gotten the 8, because of a slimmer case alone!!
I went from Epix gen 2 to Fenix 8. Those small differences do it for me. It’s exactly what I wanted from a watch. The watch face in the video I’m currently using too and it looks awesome. It really looks like a complete product and I’m glad I took the plunge. Plus side is wife now has the Epix for hiking.
@@Five7weezy interesting! I'm usually the same way but didn't find it bothersome - but I was and have always used always on display so you are right, if there is a lag it would get annoying!
I've started to explore fenix 6 on paper and I ve looked at bunch of videos. Finally I see nice sports watch for everyday. Decision maker was exactly besel, ratio, thickness, feel and lastly functions. Love it. Mix discounts with tax free during your travel and you will have it. Thanks for review.
I have the fenix 7 solar and forerunner 955 . Bought last week the fenix 8 47 titanium orange. They nailed in the design and the size of the bezel. Is beautiful. I the same day i bought i saw the epix pro 47 460 euros less than the fenix 8 but in my perspective,was just the same of my fenix 7 with an amoled screen. And I'm a long time user from Garmin and i know when the new features arrive,the 7 series and epix series for sure don't gonna get none of them. For now it may seem its only minor upgrades but if you look back since the 7 was launched until now you will see how many features was added since them and how many of them went to fenix 6 series . People tend to forget that. And if you look closely,ok they overshoot on the mip base screens,but,here in Europe,the epix pro sapphire when was launched, came with a price of 1050 euros. The fenix 8 sapphire edition costs 1100 euros,so was a 50 euros increase in the price. I skipped that one, because even with the desire of getting a amoled screen,i knoweth it will be the same of having my Fênix 7 with an amoled screen and the and a couple of months later the Fênix 8 and epix 3 gonna came and no more features gonna be added on 7 series and epix 2. They surprise everyone merging fenix and epix in one brand and im glad i skipped the epix pro series. This is a great evolution from a design standpoint,is beautiful, the new interface, everything. I think people who can afford to buy it, will be very happy with the device. By the way, today we get the software version 11.89 and is way more stable than when was launched. Almost every complaints were addressed. Thanks for your video 😊 cheers from Portugal
I need to see more of the voice command features. That was the only thing I was waiting for. The fact it can do that without a connection to the phone is a PLUS! I'm worried about the new buttons but hopefully they last the test of time. I still like the MIP display because of battery usage and longevitiy.
@@Witcherworks yes totally understand! The list of Voice Command commands is not as extensive as I would have liked, but does a few basic things you might need it to do. I definitely like using the timers!
All the things I like about my epix pro, the 8 does not really improve. And all the things I don’t like about it, have not been addressed in the 8. 🤷♂️
@@Seanonyoutube yes others have felt that too! It, to me, just feels like it does the opposite - brings the core features to a more up to date package and UI design, etc. - the Epix pro is still an awesome watch - thank you for commenting!
@@fitgearhunter I feel no need to upgrade this time around. Real updates for me would be around sleep cycle accuracy and navigation features. Enjoy your new watch man!
I was about to buy the Fenix 7 that's on sale for $449. Your review now makes me wanna change my mind. (I scuba dive once in a while so that's another point for the 8)
Another informative review! I got my Fenix 8 because of your previous video, and I love it. Thanks for the great content! Also, I noticed the Whoop on your arm-are you using it again?
@@tivadarorosz so sorry for the delayed response! Yes I totally love the WHOOP and use it daily as well as my secondary recovery review device. Thank you for the response on the video and glad it helped!
thanks for your review. These are my views after 1 week of owning it 1:the sound that comes out of it when it beeps is way more high end and pleasant than the 7. 2:i like how it now speaks directly from the watch isntead of having to go through the phone "timer stopped" 3:i actually like the new buttons . 4:I went with MIP because as a time piece collector i appreciate the fact that it still looks like a watch and not some sort of phone on your wrist .
@@ROrneli appreciate this! Great points all around and really appreciate the specifics. It's so dumb but I love the stupid beeps - actually have tones on w morning alarm!
Unfortunately the Fenix 8 Solar seems to be none existent to most Reviewers here on TH-cam. Looking at the Display changes between the 8 and the 7 solar, I see a huge reason for upgrading, if you want to stay at 47mm. Even more than from the Epix.
@@fitgearhunter I totally understand and please don't take it as a complaint towards you. Since Garmin pushed the AMOLED in the market to reach out for AW users, all the reviews concentrates sole on that. It's almost impossible to find one on the Solar Model.
@@hojo5081 no I totally get it and I think you are actually right that the MIP reviews have been lacking. I think the Enduro three has taken over that side of the review market actually
Can you use the map when you are in dive mode? I have the Descent G1 today, and i'm thinking about switching to Fenix 8, but i wonder ho the map works when you are in the sea?
Fenix 8 will be my big Garmin upgrade from Vivosmart 4 band, and I am so excited. I dumped Apple Ultra on my brother to go back to Vivosmart 4 and I was happy. The Apple Ultra was supposed to be the future and instead was a damn trick being strung along and always left me empty. Apple is for office worker feel good prisoners. Garmin sets me free. I want health, adventure not an office!
@@theartificialsociety3373 yes yes yes! All of this! That is a huge step forward and you are going to absolutely love it. I hope you move forward with the purchase because I think it'll be a great experience!
I aprecciate your thougts. People are giving too much heat because of expectations, And most of it is true. Nerveless i think you're review is point on! Congratulations.
Thanks for the review. I had an Epix pro on order and it got lost in transit so they canceled it.. I feel better about the Fenix with the updated UI and more support going forward. I am coming from an apple watch and can't wait to use the F8 for training and living. I used a garmin bike computer a decade ago, but been with apple since they first came out. Excited for the increased battery life and nerd features of the garmin!
Great points - coming from previous models, they just feel dated and unfinished. The Fenix 8 feels like everything coming together for something really special and “polished”.
@@LouisStephans no I definitely think if it's just for workouts and not for daily living then you would probably save some money to get a used F7 pro or Epix pro on eBay!
Thank you so much for this review. I've been watching the Fenix series for a couple years now. It's a shame that they've gone from approximately $600 to $800 all the way to $1,000+ now. I'm happy to say though that the Forerunner 965 would work perfect for me. You saved me a lot of money. Thank you soo much! Yes it is about the money. Im a huge tech guy and have problems spending the money that they want for graphics cards nowadays.
No but it makes it look more premium and justifies the price for many people. If you don't like it fine but no need to belittle those that do. I couldn't go back to MIP. It looks horrible to me after having Amoled @@auricschiller
@@auricschiller Oh yes. I was enjoying old reruns on my AMOLED and pretty sure I shaved off 10mins from Marathon timing...Buy what you like! Garmin makes a lot of watches, BUY WHAT YOU WANT and don't trash everything else.
I appreciate your say,but instead of all those changes& upgrades I would like to have one that has not come into use- a usb interface . The more I use F7 the more I think I do not need all that data gathered by the watch. Just distance,time & maps/navigation .It is crucial for me.
Great review, like always. I really appreciate you giving your definitive opinion on if it’s worth the price premium and what to pay vs an epix pro. I do wish they would have given us a version that had the new form factor minus the dive and mic, but with sapphire glass. That would have been the sweet spot IMO. I also wish they would start offering sapphire glass on more of their lineup (965) for those who want something lighter.
@@richxps yes on whoop! I just like its approach to summary, but it's worthless for tracking training load or intensity monitoring. And totally negative on the AWU! Just lacks all main components needed in today's world. Sorry! I am thinking of doing a 'thoughts' review on apple - super disappointed in release
I know you said that you don’t like the new buttons, but do you think that they are more durable than the ones that use o-rings ? Even if you don’t use it for diving? I currently I’m using an Apple Watch 6 and if I spend the money for a fenix 8, I plan on using for a long time.
@@anthonyrampino7734 good point I hadn't thought of that! I tend to test or use devices probably three years of the longest and haven't had a button problem, especially not on the higher end versions, but that makes it even more of a non-fear or non-issue!
@@fitgearhunter thanks, that’s kinda what I’m thinking. I’m going to get a fenix 8 but not sure if I should go with the amoled or the MIP. Which one do you prefer?
@@fitgearhunter sounds good. I’m sure I’ll be using the maps for hikes and trails and I also workout in the gym. I was wondering how the maps look in the sun with the oled vs the MIP.
I have it and it's amazing, my previous Garmin was a Fénix 6 pro and the difference is huge. About the price, these watches are not for everyone, you are paying for a luxury product, it costs 700 or 1000 dollars the difference is minimal for a luxury product. Each person has to think about whether or not the cost is worth it based on their needs, you can have an opinion, obviously, but your needs are different from mine and what is little for you can be a lot for me. Greetings
@@dimi-88Friend, Apple Watch is a smart watch with some sports features, Garmin is a sports watch with some smart features, they will never be comparable and if you do you are not really an athlete, you just do sports. Enjoy your Apple Watch, when you take your training seriously you'll have a Garmin. Greetings
@@motfiner that's an awesome upgrade! Going from the F6 to the F8 is next level! It's obviously a luxury item, but at least with Garmin you are getting the most extensive training watch and most extensive recovery watch you can on the market
@@marthalampropoulou so sorry for the delayed response! It comes down to what you can afford, but I really think the F8 is an absolutely awesome solution. And if looked at F7 then only the Pro, or definitely the F8
@@fitgearhunter i feel the fenix line is not 100% well proportional between case size / strap width. the ideal would be 0.2mm more on the 2 smaller sizes and stay with 26mm on the 51mm case. had the 51mm sold it for the 47mm. the 51mm felt inessesary big (almost ridiculous), and the 47mm feels nice But does not have all that presence and i feel this is due to the thin strap.
I just switched from 47mm to 51mm and I think it's more comfortable over all actually!! I know it sounds counter-intuitive, and I didn't expect it (went for 51 only because of battery and got a great deal). However, when wearing the watch tightly, 26mm digs not as much into the skin as 22mm, it's really great
I tried out the Fenix 7 Pro for a week and ended up going for the Fenix 8 47mm Sapphire. Coming from an Apple Watch, I really enjoyed the crispness of the AMOLED screen over the MIP. Did still enjoy the MIP screen, but prefer the AMOLED if I'm going to be spending >= $1000 on a watch.
if the suunto race had the garmin fenix8 optical heart senor thats the game changer, plus it would need other software/app upgrades like 3rd apps loading into suunto watch/app to correct fatigue numbers
What is difficult to understand is that you can have two Suunto Race Titanium for the price of one Fenix 8....do you think the difference is huge between these two watches ? (sorry for my english 😉)
@@jeremydelrieu5656 I do! Race titanium has a very faulty HR sensor and lacks a lot of wellness and recovery depth - my feelings at least, and I love Suunto as the second choice!
@@mortenvinther8940 hey! No - I feel the extensive testing I did when the elevate 5.0 came out was enough - and it's performed much the same since for me, although I use a chest strap exclusively now to make sure it's accurate, and also to not have to wear the watch bc of workouts.
I am in 2 minds...Still have the Epix Gen 2...and it is working like a charm...I would love the flash light and the new graphics on the golf app...but that is it...have 2 other dive computers so no need for a new one...but my arse is always itching for something new...$1k is a lot of money
good one... everybody else is saying it is glitchy and now to buy it but, I like your logic and am going to see if I can get it on sale or the Epix pro 2 saphire brand new for about $700 might be better deal but I do like the fenix 8 has a flashlight don't know if the Epix has that flashlight feature
Hi, great video I just want to know some more feature regarding receiving calls. Normally i wear wireless bluetooth, so if i answer the incoming call from the watch, so the voice of the other person will come from the watch, mobile or my connected wireless bluetooth? If, by answering the call from the watch, the voice of other person comes from the watch, so does the watch has the option to switch the voice of other person to my connected bluetooth from the watch itself..? Or do i need to pull out my phone from my pocket to do so..? Please make a detail video of it Thanks....
@@mohammedsalmaancharolia0786 hey so sorry for the delay! Yes it uses Bluetooth connection and you don't have to get your watch out of your pocket, but the speaker is a little bit quiet so not as functional as I would have liked!
I found a Marq Athlete for $1k, would you do that or go with the Fenix 8 if price was truly equal or very equivalent? Thank you again for all of the videos, so informative and well presented.
@@zarammaraz thank you so much for the compliments on the review! I would go with the F8, honestly. Sorry for the delayed response I was traveling. But I think the F8 and the newer sensor, and likely new feature updates along the way, make it the superior device if the same price
So if the design and the new software (it just looks nicer) is pretty much the only thing that has changed compared to the previous version, the price increase is hardly justifiable. Especially because the things that are really new, namely the smartwatch functions with the microphone and the loudspeaker, apparently do not work satisfactorily (yet) and the new buttons do not convince everyone either.
@@heinzmuller8831 price increase technically is just $100, and based on that is totally justifiable because you get a bigger literal display on the 47 mm, plus the diving capabilities are significant if that is important to you, and then overall yes the new UI and design
@@beny79kb it's funny it's gonna seem crazy but these are the ones that worked perfectly for me - an old 965 one that technically did not work for the 965 because of the curved edges actually fit perfect perfectly amzn.to/4gVwszm
After reading a bunch of comments on various websites where the user returned their OLED model to go back to MIP, I'm not sure "OLED is where it's at".
A bunch of comments is representative of .0000001% of the population. Look at garmin's sales call to investors and overall market trends. OLED is more sought after whether it's better suited to your needs or not. Average ppl prefer OLED, and Garmin has already ingrained itself in the enthusiast crowd for years, so the new customers aren't Garmin classic fans, but incoming adopters. Garmin is extending its mass market appeal and that market is OLED. Whether we like it or not, MIP is going the way of the headphone jack
@@seanlinehan1136 Not as long as something else comes along with the same advantages: no weird hand motion needed to turn on the watchface, no burn-in (I've seen a lot of OLED Garmin users, even with the recent Epix 2, posting on Reddit the heavily deteriorated state of their OLED screen in less than 2 years without it being even set to always-on), way longer battery life, great daytime visibility and no distraction from the watch in lower light conditions due to the LED light. While I don't think this will 100% be that future, a Garmin Connect build recently leaked a MicroLED version of the F8. So who knows, we may end up with the best of both worlds with a two-layered system combining a transflective MIP AOD for "passive use" below a transparent MicroLED screen for "active use", but at which cost… As for me, coming from a Tactix Delta (F6X family) and after having used an AMOLED watch too (Galaxy Watch 6 Classic) I'll stick to MIP with a F8 51 Solar which is on its way to my door.
@@Ruzgfpegk haha I think it depends on the specifics about the comments! The fact that you can get a week or longer with a bright brilliant display that gives many times the detail to the mapping to me is really awesome!
Fenix watches are like iPhones if you upgraded from the last model (Fenix 7) it’s only an incremental upgrade and ultimately comes down to your disposable income. But if you’re upgrading from a model 2+ iterations ago (Fenix 6 and prior) it’s going to feel like a big upgrade. It’s not that hard to see folks.
Is there a way to answer calls on it without having default to using the watch speaker? I had a Samsung watch with a speaker on it and I hated using it for calls. It was a terrible experience
agree with you but disagree on speaker and buttons. for me buttons is the biggest miss vs speaker. and that’s because the buttons you are going to use them whereas the speaker you can just ignore. can’t ignore the buttons though…
good vid - thanks. But at what point in time in this crazy world did we ever think that the intended market for a fenix8 is an epix pro or F7pro?? These watches are not APPLE iphones designed to be upgraded every year. This madness started with phones and youtube creators are pushing the same mentality to high end fitness watches. These are not the same. There are so many comments "the upgrade isnt worth it" haha course its not. Epix gen2 pro or even a fenix 7 is not the intended market. Sure an odd one in a hundred might upgrade for various reason but compare it to a 5 or 6 and those users will see a substantial upgrade.
@@2312dean yes can totally see that! It's really more of an upgrade for the F6 or even F7 non-pro at more of a stretch and only if somebody can afford it
Ma non ti viene il dubbio che a qualcuno possa dare fastidio la luce dello schermo super colorato che continua ad accendersi? MIP anche per fenix 8, senza alcun dubbio.
Im surprised you dont like the buttons I think they are nice. I think they are much better than my Epix 2 anyways but dont know about the pro. The only real negative for me at the moment is that the dim screens are like impossible to see in most situations. My Epix 2 was was easier to see in the dim mode. This seems like an easy fix by just making the numbers a little thicker or fill them in. I cant imagine that would impact the battery by much if at all. Overall for me its a really solid upgrade from the Epix 2. Did I need it? Probably not but you could say that about a lot of things.
@@dallasdevries9421 interesting thoughts and totally appreciate the feedback! Yes for some reason the buttons just don't register consistently enough for me. Can see what you're saying about the Epix pro experience, but F8 has just been such a great step up, although definitely expensive!
Ive had plenty of Fenix’s and the Epix 2, went for the Fenix 8 and after a week retuned it for a few reasons. 1. Software is v buggy and crashes (which is a first for Garmin in my experience) 2. UI is sluggish 3. My AW Ultra vs the Fenix 8 is a bargain 4. AW app ecosystem really is getting strong to compete with Garmin now (Athlytic, Work Outdoors, Zones, Bevel etc). 5. Vitals on AW is a nice simple way of bringing things together …but arguably for £950, it’s really not worthy of that given the software issues and competition 😢 which is a shame as I usually love Garmin and the hardware of the watch is awesome. Great review btw as ever, always good to hear your perspective. 😀
@@bedfondo thanks so much and really appreciate your alternative viewpoint! I just did a review release for the AW 10 and AWU 2 Black, and stand on the opposite side, but your feedback really helps!
Bugs are still there.. no solution from Garmin!!! Amoled screen in the night is unreadable because of the auto-dimming.. never had such issue with EpixPRO 51 amoled or Fenix7x.. also software is still laggy
I have mine since 2 weeks and no issues at all. I was scared about the comments of these issues, as I've seen many, However, is the people without issues saying it? Mostly not. And most people does not have any issues, so am I. Totally worth buying it for me.
@@whiteran sorry to hear that! I did not have that issue at all, so you might want to do a hard reset of the watch going back to factory, and then see if it still happens. There are ancillary cases where sometimes that has to be done in order to rectify some minor tweak that doesn't get caught in the firmware updates because it's not specific to a firmware update
I used to like your honest reviews. But this is a Garmin commercial. People with an epix gen2 non pro or pro or fenix 7 who are not in the market for a dive watch can better spend the money on something else.
@@renevh2832 interesting! I'm literally coming from an Epix pro and 965, and have to buy all watches w my own money - so nothing can be more honest than sharing thoughts in that backdrop. I get literally zero handouts - plus I listed multiple reasons for my thoughts. I think looking back I honestly feel like the Epix pro and F7 pro just weren't worth the price tag, and this one more is.
Everything you just said, that you like with the watch, apart from the different screen, is a software improvement... It's not worth the 400 dollars more.
Don’t agree, what because it the latest and greatest Garmin, I will keep my Epix Gen 2 and keep my hard earned cash in my pocket thanks, just like mobile phones unless I see big upgrade I’m done with changing my Apple Pro Max or Ultra S24 every year. I take it they paid you to say bs 😂
So, because the marq series is dramaticly overpriced, makes the fenix 8 a great deal? That makes no sense at all. For non divers, except from the new design, there is literally no useful new feature compared to the epix pro. TH-camrs shoult start to think like they had bought the watches from theire own money and not just got it from Garmin to test (promote). This watches (even the marq 2) will be Electronic Waste in 5-6 Years and no one will wear it just for the design. Also there will be a new model with even better design, there is no point at all. In my opinion, fenix 8 is now at a point, where it is more like a lifestyle Gadget to show others. It is not about the features anymore... Well played Garmin marketing Team.
He typically doesn’t get review units. And the Fenix 8 design is objectively better now, not on the Marq level but it is quite a bit nicer than before.
Agree, love my Fenix 8. Design and screen size are the main atraction for me coming from an epix 2. It just feels all new now with the bigger font and style in the 1.4 inch display. Ui also feels faster to me. Got 450€ for my old epix so 550€ extra for the titanium/saphire version Isnt to bad 🤟🏾. LTE and a descent speaker are missing but that will come for sure in the future releases. And then the 8 will be sold and the 9 will be bought. Its that simpel 😂🙏
Don't get a Garmin...the customer service is the absolute worst. My fenix screen failed after three years....complete waste of money...1000.00 down the drain. Garmin sucks!
This seems like a great time for new to Garmin folks - like me. Not all products are for an upgrade process, but as a first Garmin product it seems to be as a polished product. I’m hoping to see my Fenix 8 51 MIP arrive today - where I will test if I prefer it over my AWU 2. Yes I could have got a discounted 7X Pro or Enduro 3 cheaper but this expensive watch drew me in as it feels like it will tick some of the boxes that only the AWU has checked. And even before seeing MIP - I know it’ll be for me. (However there is also a sneaking feeling that I may keep the AWU and brazen out the process of wearing two watches 🤣🤦)
@@mindbalance_cc that's great! So glad you have it on arrival - hope you love it! And hope the alternate screen tech is okay vs the AWU. Let me know how it goes!
"Worth every penny." You're delusional. Desperate to post-justify the money you spent. Scuba diving feature for a guy who doesn't dive, and a half-assed microphone implementation that doesn't fully interface with the phone properly. Same slow CPU as watches released 4 years ago. Bugs galore crashing when saving activities, causing users to lose the activity they just completed. Battery consumption bug resulting in one third the promised battery endurance. Double the street price of the last generation. You're delusional.
It sounds like if you are coming from a Gen 1 watch, the Fenix 8 is a massive upgrade. If you are coming from a Gen 2 watch to the Fenix 8, it isn’t a massive upgrade. Gotcha.
absurd review....battery lasts less, no new REAL functions, amoled it's for consume multimedia, when you are on the trails with the sun you want transflective screen....it's almos double the price... OMG hahahahah
I greatly appreciate the no BS real life assessment to include the money analysis. That's pretty incredible and honestly what is missing from the review space. Nice work!
@@nategordon7383 thanks so much for saying! Lord - I really appreciate that! So glad it helped!
I just bought the 43mm version of Fenix 8, an upgrade from my current Forerunner 265S! Cant wait to experience it!!! 😀😀
I just got the Fenix 8 43mm AMOLED a week ago. I had the Fenix 7S. And its a huge upgrade for me! I loveeee the new Fenix 8!! It's just so much better. There's alot of upgrades for me! The Fenix 8 is just everything!
@@ceciliafourie334 yes that's what I was trying to convey, it's all the subtle differences that add up to a different experience across-the-board, for me at least. Thank you so much for commenting and glad you are loving it!
@@ceciliafourie334 how does the 43mm sit on your wrist? My wrist size is 7.5 inches torn between 43 and 47mm
@michaelgiammarino7313 Hi Micheal! The 43mm fits perfectly on my wrist. Using a nylon band also sometimes and no problems. Really have only great and awesome things to say about the Fenix 8! Had the 6 and 7 also. But the Fenix 8 is just chefs' kiss!
@@ceciliafourie334 thanks for that info! Looks like 43mm it's going to be!!! God bless
I'm waiting for the fenix 8 pro. I'm hopefully an s version for us thin wrist people.
I just subscribed cuz, you speak with logic and give total honesty about your opinion .. Have a variety of perspectives. Thank you for that + thanks for sharing ❤
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I forgot to add, i just bought the Fenix 8. It is expensive but, im looking forward for the premium experience.
I found myself using crocodile Dundee GIFs at work twice last week and nobody knew what the heck I was talking about. I'm glad I'm not alone!
@@dadandvideogames bahaha I know! The comment slipped out and it was so funny to think no one likely even knew what I was talking about. Thank you!
It's been driving me crazy that I haven't seen anyone put it in this context/POV, until now. You put it perfectly. It is a lot of small very noticeable upgrades and twiks that together make a big difference. I got Epix Pro for $650 new, and I'm still debating if I should've gotten the 8, because of a slimmer case alone!!
I went from Epix gen 2 to Fenix 8. Those small differences do it for me. It’s exactly what I wanted from a watch. The watch face in the video I’m currently using too and it looks awesome. It really looks like a complete product and I’m glad I took the plunge. Plus side is wife now has the Epix for hiking.
I actually returned my amoled fenix 8 to get the mip version. Couldn't deal with the gesturing, response time.
Good to know I hated the gesture response on 965. It was awful “always on display” I returned it in one day
@@Five7weezy interesting! I'm usually the same way but didn't find it bothersome - but I was and have always used always on display so you are right, if there is a lag it would get annoying!
Great comparative review with easy to understand and easy to follow bullet points without being too technical!
@@johnfricano2591 thank you so much for the comment and so sorry I missed it initially! Really appreciate the feedback and glad it helped!
I've started to explore fenix 6 on paper and I ve looked at bunch of videos. Finally I see nice sports watch for everyday. Decision maker was exactly besel, ratio, thickness, feel and lastly functions. Love it.
Mix discounts with tax free during your travel and you will have it.
Thanks for review.
Sold. Or, rather bought! You talked me into a 47mm Fenix 8. Switching from my Tactix 7 pro
I’ve had every fenix since the 5. Switched to an ultra 2 last month. HATED IT. Sold on eBay last night 😂. Fenix 8 MIP is en route from garmin.
I have the fenix 7 solar and forerunner 955 . Bought last week the fenix 8 47 titanium orange. They nailed in the design and the size of the bezel. Is beautiful. I the same day i bought i saw the epix pro 47 460 euros less than the fenix 8 but in my perspective,was just the same of my fenix 7 with an amoled screen. And I'm a long time user from Garmin and i know when the new features arrive,the 7 series and epix series for sure don't gonna get none of them. For now it may seem its only minor upgrades but if you look back since the 7 was launched until now you will see how many features was added since them and how many of them went to fenix 6 series . People tend to forget that. And if you look closely,ok they overshoot on the mip base screens,but,here in Europe,the epix pro sapphire when was launched, came with a price of 1050 euros. The fenix 8 sapphire edition costs 1100 euros,so was a 50 euros increase in the price. I skipped that one, because even with the desire of getting a amoled screen,i knoweth it will be the same of having my Fênix 7 with an amoled screen and the and a couple of months later the Fênix 8 and epix 3 gonna came and no more features gonna be added on 7 series and epix 2. They surprise everyone merging fenix and epix in one brand and im glad i skipped the epix pro series. This is a great evolution from a design standpoint,is beautiful, the new interface, everything. I think people who can afford to buy it, will be very happy with the device. By the way, today we get the software version 11.89 and is way more stable than when was launched. Almost every complaints were addressed. Thanks for your video 😊 cheers from Portugal
I need to see more of the voice command features. That was the only thing I was waiting for. The fact it can do that without a connection to the phone is a PLUS! I'm worried about the new buttons but hopefully they last the test of time. I still like the MIP display because of battery usage and longevitiy.
@@Witcherworks yes totally understand! The list of Voice Command commands is not as extensive as I would have liked, but does a few basic things you might need it to do. I definitely like using the timers!
I have to agree, that Bezel is gorgeous! This next generation of Garmin watches look great 🔥
@@ActiveIdeas yes can't wait see what comes next! Thanks, mate
All the things I like about my epix pro, the 8 does not really improve. And all the things I don’t like about it, have not been addressed in the 8. 🤷♂️
@@Seanonyoutube yes others have felt that too! It, to me, just feels like it does the opposite - brings the core features to a more up to date package and UI design, etc. - the Epix pro is still an awesome watch - thank you for commenting!
@@fitgearhunter I feel no need to upgrade this time around. Real updates for me would be around sleep cycle accuracy and navigation features. Enjoy your new watch man!
I was about to buy the Fenix 7 that's on sale for $449. Your review now makes me wanna change my mind. (I scuba dive once in a while so that's another point for the 8)
Another informative review! I got my Fenix 8 because of your previous video, and I love it. Thanks for the great content! Also, I noticed the Whoop on your arm-are you using it again?
@@tivadarorosz so sorry for the delayed response! Yes I totally love the WHOOP and use it daily as well as my secondary recovery review device. Thank you for the response on the video and glad it helped!
thanks for your review.
These are my views after 1 week of owning it
1:the sound that comes out of it when it beeps is way more high end and pleasant than the 7.
2:i like how it now speaks directly from the watch isntead of having to go through the phone "timer stopped"
3:i actually like the new buttons .
4:I went with MIP because as a time piece collector i appreciate the fact that it still looks like a watch and not some sort of phone on your wrist .
@@ROrneli appreciate this! Great points all around and really appreciate the specifics. It's so dumb but I love the stupid beeps - actually have tones on w morning alarm!
Did you go with the 47mm or the 51mm MIP?
@@Wasabi_Master 51MM
Unfortunately the Fenix 8 Solar seems to be none existent to most Reviewers here on TH-cam. Looking at the Display changes between the 8 and the 7 solar, I see a huge reason for upgrading, if you want to stay at 47mm. Even more than from the Epix.
The solar still has a 1.3 inch screen at 47mm
but they removed the solar panel over the screen. Huge difference in clarity.
@@hojo5081 so appreciate you saying this! I can't review all that I want bc smaller channel - so this is great for others to see - thank you!
@@fitgearhunter I totally understand and please don't take it as a complaint towards you. Since Garmin pushed the AMOLED in the market to reach out for AW users, all the reviews concentrates sole on that. It's almost impossible to find one on the Solar Model.
@@hojo5081 no I totally get it and I think you are actually right that the MIP reviews have been lacking. I think the Enduro three has taken over that side of the review market actually
From my Descent G1 .. it’s a perfect step up.
Loving it.
@@Pedro285 me too - thanks for commenting!
Can you use the map when you are in dive mode? I have the Descent G1 today, and i'm thinking about switching to Fenix 8, but i wonder ho the map works when you are in the sea?
@@Crossboard I don’t believe so .. would need GPS
Fenix 8 will be my big Garmin upgrade from Vivosmart 4 band, and I am so excited. I dumped Apple Ultra on my brother to go back to Vivosmart 4 and I was happy. The Apple Ultra was supposed to be the future and instead was a damn trick being strung along and always left me empty. Apple is for office worker feel good prisoners. Garmin sets me free. I want health, adventure not an office!
@@theartificialsociety3373 yes yes yes! All of this! That is a huge step forward and you are going to absolutely love it. I hope you move forward with the purchase because I think it'll be a great experience!
I aprecciate your thougts. People are giving too much heat because of expectations, And most of it is true. Nerveless i think you're review is point on! Congratulations.
@@eljavix thank you so much! Yes I think the same w expectations vs the nuances that culminate to a final conclusion
What is the watch face called? Please and thanks
It appears to be a customized version of one of its standard watch face options.
Thanks for the review. I had an Epix pro on order and it got lost in transit so they canceled it.. I feel better about the Fenix with the updated UI and more support going forward. I am coming from an apple watch and can't wait to use the F8 for training and living. I used a garmin bike computer a decade ago, but been with apple since they first came out. Excited for the increased battery life and nerd features of the garmin!
Great points - coming from previous models, they just feel dated and unfinished. The Fenix 8 feels like everything coming together for something really special and “polished”.
I need second watch just for workouts! What with Enduro 3? Isn’t better?
Less lags?
@@LouisStephans no I definitely think if it's just for workouts and not for daily living then you would probably save some money to get a used F7 pro or Epix pro on eBay!
Tanks for this video ! What’s the keybord look like ?
Thank you so much for this review. I've been watching the Fenix series for a couple years now. It's a shame that they've gone from approximately $600 to $800 all the way to $1,000+ now. I'm happy to say though that the Forerunner 965 would work perfect for me. You saved me a lot of money. Thank you soo much! Yes it is about the money. Im a huge tech guy and have problems spending the money that they want for graphics cards nowadays.
I got the enduro 3. longer battery life was the deciding factor. I do not need a fancy screen as I am not watching movies on my watch.
This hits it on the head. The fancy screens offer no meaningful difference for the actual purpose of the watch.
@@auricschiller No meaningful difference? lol
@@Shawn-ky2tw are you watching movies on your watch? Does the AMOLED make you run faster?
No but it makes it look more premium and justifies the price for many people. If you don't like it fine but no need to belittle those that do. I couldn't go back to MIP. It looks horrible to me after having Amoled @@auricschiller
@@auricschiller Oh yes. I was enjoying old reruns on my AMOLED and pretty sure I shaved off 10mins from Marathon timing...Buy what you like! Garmin makes a lot of watches, BUY WHAT YOU WANT and don't trash everything else.
Have the 955 forerunner would love a Fenix 8 but the price is hard to stomach
I appreciate your say,but instead of all those changes& upgrades I would like to have one that has not come into use- a usb interface . The more I use F7 the more I think I do not need all that data gathered by the watch. Just distance,time & maps/navigation .It is crucial for me.
@@marioplus321 yes completely can see what you're saying!
Pretty sure I know the answer to this but if you had to choose between the Fenix 8 or the Apple Watch Ultra which one would you choose?
Yes, the beeps are nice and they make sense!
@@FrankFritsen yep!
You may have covered this in a different video, why 47mm not 51mm? Am considering the giant 8 for ultras (cos longer battery life)
Great review, like always. I really appreciate you giving your definitive opinion on if it’s worth the price premium and what to pay vs an epix pro. I do wish they would have given us a version that had the new form factor minus the dive and mic, but with sapphire glass. That would have been the sweet spot IMO. I also wish they would start offering sapphire glass on more of their lineup (965) for those who want something lighter.
@@ThunderRunner yes totally! And thank you so much for saying. I agree w the non-diving variant - that would've been a great idea.
How about this vs the Ulta 2 black , curious what your options are.. also do you still run a whoop with your watch?
@@richxps yes on whoop! I just like its approach to summary, but it's worthless for tracking training load or intensity monitoring. And totally negative on the AWU! Just lacks all main components needed in today's world. Sorry! I am thinking of doing a 'thoughts' review on apple - super disappointed in release
Any ideas if you can now dim the screen more than just 3 steps?
Good review!
@@fnmby thanks so much!
I know you said that you don’t like the new buttons, but do you think that they are more durable than the ones that use o-rings ? Even if you don’t use it for diving?
I currently I’m using an Apple Watch 6 and if I spend the money for a fenix 8, I plan on using for a long time.
exactly - as do almost every single person on the planet. so sad to see all the vids asking if an upgrade from a 7 or epix gen is worth it :)
@@anthonyrampino7734 good point I hadn't thought of that! I tend to test or use devices probably three years of the longest and haven't had a button problem, especially not on the higher end versions, but that makes it even more of a non-fear or non-issue!
@@fitgearhunter thanks, that’s kinda what I’m thinking. I’m going to get a fenix 8 but not sure if I should go with the amoled or the MIP. Which one do you prefer?
@@anthonyrampino7734 I am 100% all in on OLED now because of the battery life and enjoyment of experience and detail of the maps
@@fitgearhunter sounds good. I’m sure I’ll be using the maps for hikes and trails and I also workout in the gym. I was wondering how the maps look in the sun with the oled vs the MIP.
I have it and it's amazing, my previous Garmin was a Fénix 6 pro and the difference is huge. About the price, these watches are not for everyone, you are paying for a luxury product, it costs 700 or 1000 dollars the difference is minimal for a luxury product. Each person has to think about whether or not the cost is worth it based on their needs, you can have an opinion, obviously, but your needs are different from mine and what is little for you can be a lot for me. Greetings
Luxury product😂😂😂Yes sure.1099 euros for watch that lagging every fucking single day.APW for ever
@@dimi-88Friend, Apple Watch is a smart watch with some sports features, Garmin is a sports watch with some smart features, they will never be comparable and if you do you are not really an athlete, you just do sports. Enjoy your Apple Watch, when you take your training seriously you'll have a Garmin. Greetings
I agree with you @@dimi-88
Luxury Garmin UI 😂
@@motfiner that's an awesome upgrade! Going from the F6 to the F8 is next level! It's obviously a luxury item, but at least with Garmin you are getting the most extensive training watch and most extensive recovery watch you can on the market
Great video !! I would like to ask I am upgrading from fenix 6 should I go to fenix 7 or 8?
@@marthalampropoulou so sorry for the delayed response! It comes down to what you can afford, but I really think the F8 is an absolutely awesome solution. And if looked at F7 then only the Pro, or definitely the F8
@@fitgearhunter thank you very much for your response
Will you come with a Amazfit t rex 3 review? Than you for your fantastic work🙏
I really liked mine too. I traded in my Apple Watch Ultra 2 for it.
I had the 7xpro sapphire [great watch] switched to AWU II [will sell - pain in the …], incoming Tactix 7 amoled [happy camper].
i d like the strap width to be 24mm on 47 f8
@@georgegiannopoulos that is a great point! I do think that would be more ideal too
@@fitgearhunter i feel the fenix line is not 100% well proportional between case size / strap width. the ideal would be 0.2mm more on the 2 smaller sizes and stay with 26mm on the 51mm case.
had the 51mm sold it for the 47mm.
the 51mm felt inessesary big (almost ridiculous), and the 47mm feels nice But does not have all that presence and i feel this is due to the thin strap.
I have the Fenix 8 43mm and same as you, it has quite a big case and I think It would have benefit a 22mm And longer strap !
I just switched from 47mm to 51mm and I think it's more comfortable over all actually!! I know it sounds counter-intuitive, and I didn't expect it (went for 51 only because of battery and got a great deal). However, when wearing the watch tightly, 26mm digs not as much into the skin as 22mm, it's really great
Same. I wish 47mm has 24mm strap
I tried out the Fenix 7 Pro for a week and ended up going for the Fenix 8 47mm Sapphire. Coming from an Apple Watch, I really enjoyed the crispness of the AMOLED screen over the MIP. Did still enjoy the MIP screen, but prefer the AMOLED if I'm going to be spending >= $1000 on a watch.
@@natemb02 yep yep yep. Completely agree. Good choice! Hope you love it
if the suunto race had the garmin fenix8 optical heart senor thats the game changer, plus it would need other software/app upgrades like 3rd apps loading into suunto watch/app to correct fatigue numbers
@@stubestrong yes totally agree. They need to get the HR sensor right and then it will be a crazy strong competitor in the market
What is difficult to understand is that you can have two Suunto Race Titanium for the price of one Fenix 8....do you think the difference is huge between these two watches ? (sorry for my english 😉)
@@jeremydelrieu5656 I do! Race titanium has a very faulty HR sensor and lacks a lot of wellness and recovery depth - my feelings at least, and I love Suunto as the second choice!
are youi gonna put it through some HR testings?
@@mortenvinther8940 hey! No - I feel the extensive testing I did when the elevate 5.0 came out was enough - and it's performed much the same since for me, although I use a chest strap exclusively now to make sure it's accurate, and also to not have to wear the watch bc of workouts.
@@fitgearhunter thank you 😊 how did you make the correlation value graph with data points ? Any software you use ?
@@mortenvinther8940 no just excel!
I am in 2 minds...Still have the Epix Gen 2...and it is working like a charm...I would love the flash light and the new graphics on the golf app...but that is it...have 2 other dive computers so no need for a new one...but my arse is always itching for something new...$1k is a lot of money
Save your money and go on a holiday instead 😂Epix still working for you
good one... everybody else is saying it is glitchy and now to buy it but, I like your logic and am going to see if I can get it on sale or the Epix pro 2 saphire brand new for about $700 might be better deal but I do like the fenix 8 has a flashlight don't know if the Epix has that flashlight feature
Hi, great video
I just want to know some more feature regarding receiving calls.
Normally i wear wireless bluetooth, so if i answer the incoming call from the watch, so the voice of the other person will come from the watch, mobile or my connected wireless bluetooth?
If, by answering the call from the watch, the voice of other person comes from the watch, so does the watch has the option to switch the voice of other person to my connected bluetooth from the watch itself..? Or do i need to pull out my phone from my pocket to do so..?
Please make a detail video of it
Thanks....
@@mohammedsalmaancharolia0786 hey so sorry for the delay! Yes it uses Bluetooth connection and you don't have to get your watch out of your pocket, but the speaker is a little bit quiet so not as functional as I would have liked!
@@fitgearhunter thanks, I really appreciate
Can you make a small video with bluetooth headset connected to your phone..?
does the screen guard mess with the screen touch sensitivity?
@@reactionsok no not at all! Sorry for a delayed response
I found a Marq Athlete for $1k, would you do that or go with the Fenix 8 if price was truly equal or very equivalent? Thank you again for all of the videos, so informative and well presented.
@@zarammaraz thank you so much for the compliments on the review! I would go with the F8, honestly. Sorry for the delayed response I was traveling. But I think the F8 and the newer sensor, and likely new feature updates along the way, make it the superior device if the same price
I’m still happy with the Fenix 6x 51mm but really leaning towards the 8 🤷♂️
@@661larry completely agree! That's a really worthwhile upgrade if you can afford it. F6 to F8 is a big jump!
@@fitgearhunter I broke down and got it! Lol. And I don’t regret it! 😂
So if the design and the new software (it just looks nicer) is pretty much the only thing that has changed compared to the previous version, the price increase is hardly justifiable.
Especially because the things that are really new, namely the smartwatch functions with the microphone and the loudspeaker, apparently do not work satisfactorily (yet) and the new buttons do not convince everyone either.
@@heinzmuller8831 price increase technically is just $100, and based on that is totally justifiable because you get a bigger literal display on the 47 mm, plus the diving capabilities are significant if that is important to you, and then overall yes the new UI and design
I have the garmin s70 and trying so hard to find that dial watch face in the iq store but no luck!
@@michaelgiammarino7313 the s70 is a sharp looking watch! I actually love that one. Sorry you can't find it!
Do you mind linking the screen protector you're using.
@@beny79kb it's funny it's gonna seem crazy but these are the ones that worked perfectly for me - an old 965 one that technically did not work for the 965 because of the curved edges actually fit perfect perfectly
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@@fitgearhunter Thank you! Enjoying your videos!
After reading a bunch of comments on various websites where the user returned their OLED model to go back to MIP, I'm not sure "OLED is where it's at".
A bunch of comments is representative of .0000001% of the population. Look at garmin's sales call to investors and overall market trends. OLED is more sought after whether it's better suited to your needs or not. Average ppl prefer OLED, and Garmin has already ingrained itself in the enthusiast crowd for years, so the new customers aren't Garmin classic fans, but incoming adopters. Garmin is extending its mass market appeal and that market is OLED. Whether we like it or not, MIP is going the way of the headphone jack
@@seanlinehan1136
Not as long as something else comes along with the same advantages: no weird hand motion needed to turn on the watchface, no burn-in (I've seen a lot of OLED Garmin users, even with the recent Epix 2, posting on Reddit the heavily deteriorated state of their OLED screen in less than 2 years without it being even set to always-on), way longer battery life, great daytime visibility and no distraction from the watch in lower light conditions due to the LED light.
While I don't think this will 100% be that future, a Garmin Connect build recently leaked a MicroLED version of the F8.
So who knows, we may end up with the best of both worlds with a two-layered system combining a transflective MIP AOD for "passive use" below a transparent MicroLED screen for "active use", but at which cost…
As for me, coming from a Tactix Delta (F6X family) and after having used an AMOLED watch too (Galaxy Watch 6 Classic) I'll stick to MIP with a F8 51 Solar which is on its way to my door.
@@Ruzgfpegk haha I think it depends on the specifics about the comments! The fact that you can get a week or longer with a bright brilliant display that gives many times the detail to the mapping to me is really awesome!
Fenix watches are like iPhones if you upgraded from the last model (Fenix 7) it’s only an incremental upgrade and ultimately comes down to your disposable income. But if you’re upgrading from a model 2+ iterations ago (Fenix 6 and prior) it’s going to feel like a big upgrade. It’s not that hard to see folks.
Is there a way to answer calls on it without having default to using the watch speaker?
I had a Samsung watch with a speaker on it and I hated using it for calls. It was a terrible experience
At this point just directly connect your headphones to your phone.
@@Nick-id1yk I just want to answer it on my phone. I don't wear headphones throughout the day and I take a lot of calls
@@Tmacademia yes other than headphones not sure, and would be easier to answer on headphones linked directly to phone. Sorry!
51 mm was my choice, better battery plus wider band makes the watch feels better.
@@Elzan01 a number of people have said the same! Glad you are liking it
My Fenix 3 died. Was looking at epic 2 pro 51. When it goes on sale
Maybe fenix 8 if my budget calls for it
I'd go with the $300 Forerunner 955 any day. All the same functions, less than 1/3 the price.
Can you dive with a Forerunner 955
Why not get the sapphire version?
This over 965?? If both were same price
@@scottwiggans6292 that's easy if both were same price F8 1 million times over!
agree with you but disagree on speaker and buttons.
for me buttons is the biggest miss vs speaker.
and that’s because the buttons you are going to use them whereas the speaker you can just ignore. can’t ignore the buttons though…
@@georgegiannopoulos good point! Hadn't thought of that. Thanks for sharing!
good vid - thanks. But at what point in time in this crazy world did we ever think that the intended market for a fenix8 is an epix pro or F7pro?? These watches are not APPLE iphones designed to be upgraded every year. This madness started with phones and youtube creators are pushing the same mentality to high end fitness watches. These are not the same.
There are so many comments "the upgrade isnt worth it" haha course its not. Epix gen2 pro or even a fenix 7 is not the intended market.
Sure an odd one in a hundred might upgrade for various reason but compare it to a 5 or 6 and those users will see a substantial upgrade.
@@2312dean yes can totally see that! It's really more of an upgrade for the F6 or even F7 non-pro at more of a stretch and only if somebody can afford it
Compared to Apple Watch Ultra 2?
@@beanb sorry for delay and great question - in my opinion it dominates in every way other than smartwatch ways!
Ma non ti viene il dubbio che a qualcuno possa dare fastidio la luce dello schermo super colorato che continua ad accendersi? MIP anche per fenix 8, senza alcun dubbio.
Im surprised you dont like the buttons I think they are nice. I think they are much better than my Epix 2 anyways but dont know about the pro.
The only real negative for me at the moment is that the dim screens are like impossible to see in most situations. My Epix 2 was was easier to see in the dim mode. This seems like an easy fix by just making the numbers a little thicker or fill them in. I cant imagine that would impact the battery by much if at all.
Overall for me its a really solid upgrade from the Epix 2. Did I need it? Probably not but you could say that about a lot of things.
@@dallasdevries9421 interesting thoughts and totally appreciate the feedback! Yes for some reason the buttons just don't register consistently enough for me. Can see what you're saying about the Epix pro experience, but F8 has just been such a great step up, although definitely expensive!
Ive had plenty of Fenix’s and the Epix 2, went for the Fenix 8 and after a week retuned it for a few reasons.
1. Software is v buggy and crashes (which is a first for Garmin in my experience)
2. UI is sluggish
3. My AW Ultra vs the Fenix 8 is a bargain
4. AW app ecosystem really is getting strong to compete with Garmin now (Athlytic, Work Outdoors, Zones, Bevel etc).
5. Vitals on AW is a nice simple way of bringing things together
…but arguably for £950, it’s really not worthy of that given the software issues and competition 😢 which is a shame as I usually love Garmin and the hardware of the watch is awesome.
Great review btw as ever, always good to hear your perspective. 😀
@@bedfondo thanks so much and really appreciate your alternative viewpoint! I just did a review release for the AW 10 and AWU 2 Black, and stand on the opposite side, but your feedback really helps!
Bugs are still there.. no solution from Garmin!!! Amoled screen in the night is unreadable because of the auto-dimming.. never had such issue with EpixPRO 51 amoled or Fenix7x.. also software is still laggy
Grazie di aver detto la verità. Nel video sembra che non la dica tutta giusta.
I have mine since 2 weeks and no issues at all. I was scared about the comments of these issues, as I've seen many, However, is the people without issues saying it? Mostly not. And most people does not have any issues, so am I. Totally worth buying it for me.
@@dobro01 my experience as well!
@@whiteran sorry to hear that! I did not have that issue at all, so you might want to do a hard reset of the watch going back to factory, and then see if it still happens. There are ancillary cases where sometimes that has to be done in order to rectify some minor tweak that doesn't get caught in the firmware updates because it's not specific to a firmware update
you recommending it now but in next 3 years this oled screen will burn in and you have to throw away whole watch without and resale value
Got epix pro gen 2 2 months ago gonna buy 8 🤣
@@scottwiggans6292 I know the feeling! Haha
I’m waiting for the 8Pro…the upgrade from EpixPro is not worth the admission…but I would get the 47mm, same screen diameter as the 51 but less bulky
You'll be waiting until atleast September 2025.
@@Five7weezy True. Hopefully Garmin will add some interesting features
I used to like your honest reviews. But this is a Garmin commercial. People with an epix gen2 non pro or pro or fenix 7 who are not in the market for a dive watch can better spend the money on something else.
@@renevh2832 interesting! I'm literally coming from an Epix pro and 965, and have to buy all watches w my own money - so nothing can be more honest than sharing thoughts in that backdrop. I get literally zero handouts - plus I listed multiple reasons for my thoughts. I think looking back I honestly feel like the Epix pro and F7 pro just weren't worth the price tag, and this one more is.
Feels suspiciously like a stealth ad
@@blairansellfraser bahaha - nope I had to save and pay!
Everything you just said, that you like with the watch, apart from the different screen, is a software improvement... It's not worth the 400 dollars more.
Don’t agree, what because it the latest and greatest Garmin, I will keep my Epix Gen 2 and keep my hard earned cash in my pocket thanks, just like mobile phones unless I see big upgrade I’m done with changing my Apple Pro Max or Ultra S24 every year. I take it they paid you to say bs 😂
So, because the marq series is dramaticly overpriced, makes the fenix 8 a great deal? That makes no sense at all. For non divers, except from the new design, there is literally no useful new feature compared to the epix pro. TH-camrs shoult start to think like they had bought the watches from theire own money and not just got it from Garmin to test (promote).
This watches (even the marq 2) will be Electronic Waste in 5-6 Years and no one will wear it just for the design. Also there will be a new model with even better design, there is no point at all. In my opinion, fenix 8 is now at a point, where it is more like a lifestyle Gadget to show others. It is not about the features anymore... Well played Garmin marketing Team.
He typically doesn’t get review units. And the Fenix 8 design is objectively better now, not on the Marq level but it is quite a bit nicer than before.
Sorry you couldn't be more wrong!
The new ui is full of bugs....... 1300 for an unfinished product that will be obsolete in 2 years
Save your money
Grazie della verità. Tu sei onesto.
You can’t afford it.
@BobJones-zw3ui and you know this how? What are you my banker?! 🤫
@@BilloBob1231 Did I hit a nerve🤣😄🥳😅😆😁
Agree, love my Fenix 8. Design and screen size are the main atraction for me coming from an epix 2. It just feels all new now with the bigger font and style in the 1.4 inch display. Ui also feels faster to me. Got 450€ for my old epix so 550€ extra for the titanium/saphire version Isnt to bad 🤟🏾. LTE and a descent speaker are missing but that will come for sure in the future releases. And then the 8 will be sold and the 9 will be bought. Its that simpel 😂🙏
@@bram2254 hahaha - yes my thoughts! Totally feel the same! Thanks so much for sharing, and for specificity.
Don't get a Garmin...the customer service is the absolute worst. My fenix screen failed after three years....complete waste of money...1000.00 down the drain. Garmin sucks!
True all that you said.Plus the lagging is from another planet😂I return it back and I buy Apple watch Ultra and i male my job fast.Never again Garmin
This seems like a great time for new to Garmin folks - like me. Not all products are for an upgrade process, but as a first Garmin product it seems to be as a polished product.
I’m hoping to see my Fenix 8 51 MIP arrive today - where I will test if I prefer it over my AWU 2. Yes I could have got a discounted 7X Pro or Enduro 3 cheaper but this expensive watch drew me in as it feels like it will tick some of the boxes that only the AWU has checked.
And even before seeing MIP - I know it’ll be for me.
(However there is also a sneaking feeling that I may keep the AWU and brazen out the process of wearing two watches 🤣🤦)
@@mindbalance_cc that's great! So glad you have it on arrival - hope you love it! And hope the alternate screen tech is okay vs the AWU. Let me know how it goes!
"Worth every penny." You're delusional. Desperate to post-justify the money you spent. Scuba diving feature for a guy who doesn't dive, and a half-assed microphone implementation that doesn't fully interface with the phone properly. Same slow CPU as watches released 4 years ago. Bugs galore crashing when saving activities, causing users to lose the activity they just completed. Battery consumption bug resulting in one third the promised battery endurance. Double the street price of the last generation. You're delusional.
It sounds like if you are coming from a Gen 1 watch, the Fenix 8 is a massive upgrade. If you are coming from a Gen 2 watch to the Fenix 8, it isn’t a massive upgrade. Gotcha.
absurd review....battery lasts less, no new REAL functions, amoled it's for consume multimedia, when you are on the trails with the sun you want transflective screen....it's almos double the price... OMG hahahahah
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The text size can be made bigger but not the data on the sub dials, way too small as compared to the 965, I wish Garmin would address this.
@@rollie5579 yes that is true! I think it is still a big step forward!