IDK. It lets people get what works for them. Most other companies force you into a lane (Apple) and then force you to upgrade every year. Garmin isn't afraid to make something for everyone, improve it often, offer those improvements to existing customers for free and then if you have a problem they offer to replace the watch for free with a new one or offer you to buy it (if out of warranty) for 1/4 the MSRP. Garmin rocks!
Great watch, terrible price tag!! 😮💨 What Garmin is doing gives a great commercial: "Don't be stupid, forget the Fenix 8... for that price you can buy 2 Garmin Epix... spend you money wisely..." 😉
@@BrandonTalbot Go get it. Most of my in-laws are world class athletes and they all just converted from Apple over to Garmin after I showed them how much they can do.
Got fenix 5....love it. I have omegas and a rolex. I just cant help but use my garmin as my primary. Fenix 8 finally looks like the upgrade ive been looking forward to
It would make more sense if you were to say the Epics lineup but saying Fenix8 is worth the upgrade, that doesn't makes sense. This watch does everything the older model does but just adds a $200 bill to it. It doesn't come with better GPS. It doesn't come with a better heart rate monitor. It doesn't come with better health metrics so what are you paying for?
@@JohnnyGificationa microphone and speaker, a completely sealed watch good to depth of 40 meters, new aesthetic, new solar tech, new firmware. Might not be worth an upgrade from the 7pro, but for someone who hasn't bought a Fenix/Epix and is in the market it's definitely offering reasons to go with the new model vs old.
I ended up purchasing a 47 OLED Sapphire to upgrade from my 6pro. Yes it's expensive, but the difference between the 2 watches seems pretty massive and after watching your previous video about if the sapphire screen was worth the update, I went with that. Great vids as per.
I will be buying the Fenix 8 Solar 47mm. It’s exactly what I’ve wanted for so long. The microphone was something I’ve needed for so so long. It’s worth it to me. I view it as a 3-4 year investment.
I made the leap from Epix Gen 2 and I’m super happy. It’s more comfortable to wear and sleep in, has a bigger screen, a nice UI, and looks stunning on the wrist. I used Watch 6 & ultra before Epix and I have to say the Fenix 8 is everything I wanted from all of those watches but never got. It’s a complete product.
I have epix gen 2, too. So, you are saying fenix 8 display is larger but watch case itself is less bulky than epix gen 2? Going to look in person tomorrow. I also might switch things up and go with the silver titanium vs the black like I had on my epix. Not sure, need to see in person. Which one did you go with? I'd switch out the orange band for a black or blue one if I go with the silver, I think. Everyone's style is different.
@Thomas-fk3cw yeah the case is thinner plus bezels are trimmed. It makes a huge difference. Suddenly the epix looked a bit dated compared to the Fenix 8 both in terms of design and UI. I chose black as i read the silver scratches up easily. The battery lasts a week even when I work out everyday with highest accuracy satellites and always on display. I don't regret it though I must add it wasn't a necessary purchase. It is a luxury.
Great work as always Dave! Ordered the 47mm variant as it has the same screen size as the 51 but with a smaller form factor (but also less battery life). Thanks again Dave 👌
Bruh. You could get a Fenix 6 and it would be better than a Suunto. If you want something price competitive get a Fenix 7 or Epix gen 2/Pro and you'll have something infinitely better than the ancient hardware Suunto and Polar have been putting out. Garmin is only competing with themselves at this point.
Just ordered 47mm version that you reviewed. I had been waiting for this release for some time. The microphone feature is critical as well as the flash light. Thank you for your pretty awesome review!
The chart at 1:53 was quite useful for me as I initially wanted the green 47mm one, but now I see its screen isn't AMOLED, so I need to go for the orange or black one instead. Thanks a lot!
Looking at new Fenix 8 design where they used thin flat tactix bezel … I’m afraid there won’t be any tactix for a while. I love my 7 amoled and only feature I wish to have from fenix 8 is mic/speaker to answer those calls occasionally.
If you take the Fenix 8 and load the Applied Balistics app, you have accomplished the same thing plus, you have a dive computer (if you are into that sort of thing). I bought the Tactix 7 AMOLED this past year and wish that I had waited. I know that this is an early review but, this watch with the new software and added features makes this a perfect watch. I am seriously considering putting my Tactix 7 AMOLED on eBay and grabbing this one.
Maaannnnnn I was SO READY to upgrade my Fenix 7S Sapphire Pro but I dunno if I will. I love the gold faces as a watch I can train with but also wear to work but I was really hoping for a battery life improvement and still have the Solar - as that is handy as a sports teacher and also while out on longer runs. Honestly my dream watch would be the Enduro 43mm gold face with the battery life! I'm happy to sacrifice the Amoled lol. Thank you heaps for these videos. Will be keen to see the later reviews when you've had a chance to use them more.
That was a very positive early review that tried to keep the criticism as dialed down as possible. As an Epix Pro 51mm owner, I think this is a seriously underwhelming release. No processing power improvements, same hr and gps sensors. Hard pass for me
Garmin is struggling and they are basically remarketing their unused inventory with slight tweaks. Their sales for the Fenix and Epix have not been great.
Not sure how much more batter we need? Biggest upgrade is for rec scuba divers like myself that dive 4 or 5 times a year on vacations and want a dive watch with their standard rented equipment. Now i dont have to have a separate expensive dedicated dive watch.
Hmm but for some of us that have never bought a training/smartwatch, this thing is the bomb. Glad I waited a few more days to order as I was about to pull the trigger on the Epix2.
I hear you. Which watch would you pick is GPS speed tracking was important to you? I would like it to be able to detect spikes in speed and ignore them unless the speed is sustained for at least 1 or 2 seconds. Is that even possible?
Agreed. I don’t want to carry my phone around for runs and short hikes, but still want the ability to stay connected. I’ll stick with my Ultra 2 for now while being jealous of Garmin’s battery life
@@Chad-ee2ko For real! It's like, listen, Garmin, I get that I won't use LTE in the backcountry, but that is 3% of my year. My short runs and hikes are 97% of my year, and I want to avoid carrying a brick around while doing those things. Let me choose to turn it off or on!
I do not think that this feature will ever be a good fit due to the way the phone OS’s are tied with the number sharing capabilities. I actually struggled a lot on a recent business trip where i could not have my iPhone with me but, a cellular option on my Tactix would have saved me a lot of pain. On these trips, i am now using my Apple Watch Ultra to keep that connectivity going.
Been waiting for this for a long time. Was about to get up and go to the gym but had to watch this first. Def thinking about buying one. Nervous about the price here in the uk but I’m gonna have a look now. Love the steel bezel. Great review. Thanks Dave.
Thanks for the great review as usual. I was waiting for the speaker and microphone feature as that will come in very handy during many of my activities. Looks like the new software is a big improvement both visually and functionality so that is great to see. I ordered mine from Garmin today and should have it in next day or two and can’t wait to try it out. Will be selling my EPIX Gen 2. Thanks again for your hard work.
lets gooo! im super excited to see this. its a shame the S version is unavailable in MIP based but im just glad there is a MIP option. long live MIP. i have a 7 pro so im not going to upgrade
@@olirc yeah, but no dive rating. not something i need but its a good peace of mind thing against water damage - i'd like it if i could afford it. but theres no reason other than that realistically to get the fenix 8. i really hope the advanced strength training and strength training plans are added to 7pro though
Just got my first Garmin a week ago coming from Apple. Got a Fenix 6 Pro to see if I wanted to convert. Loving the battery life so far. The 8 seems like it now has the features Apple has that really set the 2 apart other than battery life. Text dictation is a feature I used all the time. Not sure it's worth the extra cost to jump to an 8. It's a pretty hefty price. Great video. Thanks!
Just the video I've been waiting for! Thank you mate 👍🏾 As an EPIX Pro wearer for the past 6 months (damn I should have waited) I'm very much leaning towards a new purchase. Appreciate your content!
Thanks for another great video Dave! You never disappoint! Now I've always appreciated Garmin's fantastic build quality, industry leading metrics and hyper focus on fitness. I've been a fan for many years owning the Venu, Instinct, Fenix and Epix models. While I recently left the Garmin universe to go all in on the Samsung Galaxy Watch Ultra (some might cringe, I know), charging $1,100 for the 47mm Fenix 8 is in a word...exorbitant. Garmin's increasing price tiers will no doubt keep people away and perhaps that includes me as I was contemplating a return. I know that the Fenix has always been their flagship and I recognize that they don't make you sign up for a silly subscription to access all of the data but...with these prices they're motivating people to buy older Garmin models that are on sale, used Garmin's on Facebook Marketplace or perhaps, other brands (Apple, Samsung, ??). Ok...my rant is over. It is an amazing watch...but that price tag. Whoa.
@@ZacTexC I have bought the instinct 2x solar in addition to the Fenix 8. I plan to make the Fenix 8 my race watch and the instinct 2x solar my day to day use
First Fenix 8 video I’m seeing, so the algorithm seems to be working well. Will definitely use your links if I decide on the 51mm as an update to my 3 yr old Epix 2.
I really don't see many differences between the Fenix 8 Solar and Fenix 7 Pro, except for the microphone and speaker. Same for the Fenix 8 AMOLED vs the "old" Epix Pro. Even battery life is pretty similar. All in all, at first sight it looks like un underwhelming release to me. But yes, it looks great and I want one :)
For Scuba divers it is pretty nice, most do not exceed 30 meters, having 40 meters is good enough for 90% of Scuba divers. But yes, the extra features are reaching a saturation point. For us here in europe, we can't use the ECG app in any of the garmin watches, so sensor wise it doesn't feel like much of an upgrade from even the 6 pro. Don't get me wrong, it looks like a great watch, and I am seriously considering buying one because of the Dive functions.
@@EEDIR-DKECG might still come to Europe, no? Dive functionality is rather limited though compared to their descent line, also not sure I'd trust a watch I wear as a daily driver for other activities to be a diving watch, anything happening there would spell disaster.. Cool looking watch, just not sure the price tag is worth the upgrade from my 6 pro, considering it's just diving / voice commands..
3rd Fenix8 video I saw & you're the only 1 to note about the dedicated flashlight! MiP display had gotta be the win, but totally need to save for the HIGH price tag That was a huge feature I wouod have jumped ship on if they didn't include it. Thx for going in depth for the voice recording/mic/ voice command response.
I would love to see the voice feature integrate with setting workouts easily. Right now Garmin's workout builder is slow and clunky, I would love to use the voice feature to say something like start a run with 2 miles at x pace, then 5x0:20 sprints, then recover 5 minutes, repeat sprints, etc or start a hiit workout with 5 rounds of 5 exercises 30 seconds each with no rest in between. That would be amazing!
a really nice watch, but when I saw the price, I realised that I still love my Fenix7 Pro very, very much and will continue to do so for a long time to come
Nice early review! I have a Fenix 6S and am debating on upgrading. The new features and software are enticing for sure. I love MIPS and not sure if I want to transition to AMOLED, but there is no small Fenix 8 with MIPS 😢
Ha. I just bought a refurbished Fenix 6 Pro. I like some of the updates, but can't afford spending that much. I figured buying the 6 Pro gives me the functionality I need at a better price.
I have the Fenix 6x Pro which I bought it back in 12/2020. Still works great and the battery life is still decent. I can't see buying an 8x at that price. I am, however, looking a the Polar Grit X Pro 2 which is cheaper and offers a plethora of features along with excellent battery life. So, when the time comes, let's see what happens. Enjoy your 6 Pro, it's a great watch.
@@bilaltahir9978 tbh i haven't really used those features. I've used the microphone to set a timer a few times which has been super handy to do on the fly. But as far as playback I haven't tested really.
I’ve used my Fenix 3 HR Sapphire for the past 8 years and love it! I’m thinking about upgrading to the Fenix 8 🤔 the price is the only thing holding me back
The price is insane taking into account that at least for now there are no must-have features compared to Fenix 7 just a never-look with the same functionality.
Love the look of this watch, I think that I will be getting the 43mm one. I currently have the Venu 3S . I really like that fact the you can set a route for a run or walk if you are in a new place and done know the area.
The addition of the diving feature has made me reconsider purchasing the Descent MK3. I believe there are significant innovations in both design and functionality. First and foremost, the internally sealed buttons are crucial, as many of my friends have experienced issues with the buttons on the Fenix series. The new button design seems more durable. I also notice improvements in the software. Is the $300 price difference for the base version worth it? Considering the diving feature, voice commands, and the inclusion of a speaker and microphone, I think it is.
This was an awesome review and a beautiful watch! This will be a great device despite the increase in price. And I understand why it’s so expensive now with all of the modernized improvements on the software side & screen technology. Garmin could have lowered the price slightly of the current Fénix & Epix lines and reduced the cost of this watch by $100. And I believe this is direct competition for people who like the AWU but know its features & battery are currently lacking. I recently bought the Fénix 7 Pro SS and absolutely love it. As you mentioned, hopefully some of these software updates get passed down to the recent watch generations.
Thanks for this good video, but so much work init. I'll wait for the coming Fenix (9 or 10) Fenix 8 sounds good but also, kinda the first smart-multisport watch and guess will see where it's headed. I am still so happy with my Fenix 6x sapphire, I bought it years ago thanks to you and your videos!
Just ordered F8 AMOLED 51mm, moving from Apple Watch Ultra 1. Tired of getting health info and training suggestions collected in 10 different subscriptions based apps.
@@curtisgoodwin8962Agree. Garmin is way behind at this price point. UI is archaic. Only reason to get a Garmin over AWU would be the insane battery life offered by Garmin relative to Apple
Ive got the Fenix 6 pro solar and love it, the battery life has spoiled me from getting any other mainstream smartwatch. Was wanting to upgrade to the 8 but that price... Think I'll hold onto the 6 a little longer!
I have Fenix 6x pro and now it is time to get the new one Fenix 8 51mm AMOLED. Using it for exercising and diving. And of course for the mobile phone friend.. ☺️ Just waiting for the to get it. Just ordered it.. 🙃👌
Just ordered my 51mm Fenix 8 Solar. It's crazy expensive, but I'll recoup some of that after I sell my Fenix 7x Sapphire Solar. I'll have it for 4 years easy, and they retain their value quite a bit, so I feel like I can justify the purchase.
Wearing a Fenix 7X Solar and it is simply a power bank beast with all the activities I do. Fenix 8 Solar is looking great though and I am glad they kept the MIP display with solar version in 51mm, which obviously will be my next watch. Apple watches are completely non-sence to me with a day or two battery life 😅
I was excited to hear that the MIP solar version got rid of the solar lens. I’m hoping the MIP looks as good as it did on the fenix 6. It’ll be hard to choose between the MIP and amoled though, the titanium amoled with the orange band looks so good!
Was thinking I would go with the 51 mm to gain screen size, but since the screen on the 47 mm is the same size going with Amoled sapphire 47 mm. Looking forward to the speaker & microphone
Happy with my tactix 7 amoled. All the features I want, except those button from the new one would be nice to have. Other than that - reallt glad to have all the needed features on mine. Altough looking forward TACTIX 8 series. I think that one will be even crazier than epix 8. Will see.
When is your Garmin Fenix E video out? I know you literally just released this one. But interested to know what the E has to offer. The fenix 8 is nice but very expensive.
Great review! I prefer the forerunner, especially the price point. $1,200 is not justifiable. I'd like to know when the next gen forerunner is expected.
Well its cool that they offer different sizes the 47 and 51 just look dorky on a small to medium size wrists plus it seems like such a large watch would be uncomfortable to run with. The 43 seems like a good balance between being too large and too small.
Dear Dave. Thanks for always making "straight to the point" reviews. You have a really good pace and I always watch your videos. I have a question that I hope you will answer. Is the screen the same as from the Garmin Epix 2 series? I wonder if the screen has become brighter?
I know it's not a lot of new additions to the watch, but the one I really wanted was a speaker/microphone. Glad to see it's on. If the next Apple Watch is a flop I'll finally make the switch to Garmin
For years I am waiting for a rectangular Garmin watch which extends its landscape format asymmetrically to the left side (under sleeve). With a larger screen, bigger solar panel and lots more screen real-estate so you can better see the map, or a video, or an e-mail, or be able to use larger fonts! My ideal size: 2 inch height x 3.5 inches wide (asymmetrically mounted to have more watch to the left side of the watch strap). That is a 3.9 inch diagonal screen (assuming a thin frame). Better sound and much more useful even if a tad more heavy - it could even take phone calls and replace the cell altogether while in vacation!! Of course smaller sizes could also be offered. I guess Apple has a better chance of doing this than Garmin - the iPhone Wrist.
thanks for making this video. I like the proof leak buttons and that will be my primary reason to get upgrade. I own a fenix 7x and i love my 7x so much. The only issue for my 7x is the button. Not sure is it a design flaw or mechancial wearing off, sometimes the start button and the down button get jammed. If i need to get the fenix 8, i will probably choose the 51mm size. My dilemma is whether choosing the amoled or solar mip version.
Very nice review 👍 . All in all I mostly care about sport tracking features and not about smart watch features, so except for the scuba tracking there seems to be nothing else. I'm going to keep my Fenix 7 for now. It's a solid update if you like OLED screens, which I don't, and voice assistant and features more on the smart spectrum.
Thanks for another wonderful review. Do you see the Fenix 8 47mm to be easier to read than the forerunner 965? As an older runner presbyopia makes it harder to read at closer distances, I switched from the Epix gen 2 to the forerunner 965 because the font and size of the letters/numbers was way more readable. I would definitely buy if it is even slightly easier to read.
I am starting to regret buying my Tactix 7 AMOLED. I was torn between the Tactix and the MK3i. With this early review, I can see clearly that this will support the basic shooting solutions and diving. I did not need air integration so, this will serve as a very well qualified dive computer. I look forward to an in depth, long term review to see how it goes but, this checks a lot more boxes and, with the dive computer component, this price tag is very effective. Having a sports watch and a dive computer can easily cost half again what this all-in-one combo brings to the table. Side note - you really should try SCUBA. Some of the most beautiful parts of this planet are under water.
I can’t find this watch anywhere day one, Best Buy also shows sold out already. Amazon’s quiet too. Strange! Got the Epix Pro from Amazon on launch last year.
I appreciate you putting effort in to explain that crazy lineup! 😂 I have the 6 Pro solar (which after watching your review of it I finally bit the bullet and got it years ago). I like the Fenix 8 looks, the battery life is definitely an improvement especially from my 6 Pro Solar, but I don’t think having a new menu and being able to take phone calls is worth it for me. I like the voice actions though and the addition of a flashlight is nice. I don’t think it justifies a $1000+ upgrade for me. If I were in the market for a new one, I’d get it though. For now, I’ll wait until the Fenix 9 lineup and then scoop up an 8 Solar on sale 💯
Love Garmin but having 58 different watches where most of them do the same thing is wild.. Love my Fenix 7. Great Video
You're telling me! Trying to make sense of it in a video is a monumental effort lol.
This is one of the reasons I'm glad they got rid of the epix. Just too many lines with like 1 small difference.
IDK. It lets people get what works for them. Most other companies force you into a lane (Apple) and then force you to upgrade every year. Garmin isn't afraid to make something for everyone, improve it often, offer those improvements to existing customers for free and then if you have a problem they offer to replace the watch for free with a new one or offer you to buy it (if out of warranty) for 1/4 the MSRP. Garmin rocks!
Thanks for putting this out. I'm sure it was a monster to try and organize all of these options. I might finally buy my first Garmin.
Great watch, terrible price tag!! 😮💨
What Garmin is doing gives a great commercial:
"Don't be stupid, forget the Fenix 8... for that price you can buy 2 Garmin Epix... spend you money wisely..." 😉
@@barreirovv Not yet. The epix, even used, is still close to $900 USD unless it's damaged.
@@BrandonTalbot Go get it. Most of my in-laws are world class athletes and they all just converted from Apple over to Garmin after I showed them how much they can do.
Got fenix 5....love it. I have omegas and a rolex. I just cant help but use my garmin as my primary.
Fenix 8 finally looks like the upgrade ive been looking forward to
I also still have my Fenix 5x plus and really wanted to upgrade to 8 but was so disappointed that LTE is still not available on 8…
@@collintuaundu7765 lte - radiation on the go haha
It would make more sense if you were to say the Epics lineup but saying Fenix8 is worth the upgrade, that doesn't makes sense. This watch does everything the older model does but just adds a $200 bill to it. It doesn't come with better GPS. It doesn't come with a better heart rate monitor. It doesn't come with better health metrics so what are you paying for?
@@JohnnyGificationa microphone and speaker, a completely sealed watch good to depth of 40 meters, new aesthetic, new solar tech, new firmware.
Might not be worth an upgrade from the 7pro, but for someone who hasn't bought a Fenix/Epix and is in the market it's definitely offering reasons to go with the new model vs old.
Fenix 7 pro for the win!
Agree..
I ended up purchasing a 47 OLED Sapphire to upgrade from my 6pro. Yes it's expensive, but the difference between the 2 watches seems pretty massive and after watching your previous video about if the sapphire screen was worth the update, I went with that. Great vids as per.
Ordered the same 👍
Feel same but have Fenix 6
They are crazy with prices! No need to change my Epix 2 pro
Keep on truckin!
Consider COROS VERTIX 2 (or later) when upgrading. Half the money for the same features.
It's called inflation so don't blame Garmin. Blame your government for printing like there's no tomorrow.
I've changed from epix pro gen 2 to fenix 8.
The fenix IS the better watch but is it worth yhe money having an Epix already?
No, you're right
@@JohnnyGification it's called corporate greed and is lead by Apple. I'll vote with my money and take my business elsewhere.
I will be buying the Fenix 8 Solar 47mm. It’s exactly what I’ve wanted for so long. The microphone was something I’ve needed for so so long. It’s worth it to me. I view it as a 3-4 year investment.
Definitely going to get the 47mm AMOLED. Aesthetics of the watch is awesome!
I made the leap from Epix Gen 2 and I’m super happy. It’s more comfortable to wear and sleep in, has a bigger screen, a nice UI, and looks stunning on the wrist. I used Watch 6 & ultra before Epix and I have to say the Fenix 8 is everything I wanted from all of those watches but never got. It’s a complete product.
I have epix gen 2, too. So, you are saying fenix 8 display is larger but watch case itself is less bulky than epix gen 2? Going to look in person tomorrow. I also might switch things up and go with the silver titanium vs the black like I had on my epix. Not sure, need to see in person. Which one did you go with? I'd switch out the orange band for a black or blue one if I go with the silver, I think. Everyone's style is different.
@Thomas-fk3cw yeah the case is thinner plus bezels are trimmed. It makes a huge difference. Suddenly the epix looked a bit dated compared to the Fenix 8 both in terms of design and UI. I chose black as i read the silver scratches up easily. The battery lasts a week even when I work out everyday with highest accuracy satellites and always on display. I don't regret it though I must add it wasn't a necessary purchase. It is a luxury.
51mm is arriving today. Thanks for the thorough review, Dave! Love your content!
Love how you do the reviews and you talk better than others.
Thanks and more power.
Great work as always Dave! Ordered the 47mm variant as it has the same screen size as the 51 but with a smaller form factor (but also less battery life). Thanks again Dave 👌
Voice notes audio example: creative, helpful and different than the other guys. Way to go.
I might switch to Suunto in the year to come. In Canada it’s 1620$ (without taxes). Great product but it’s way to expensive
haha i was also thinking, damn Garmin really exploded in price last couple of years, also started to be wanting new alternatives
Bruh. You could get a Fenix 6 and it would be better than a Suunto. If you want something price competitive get a Fenix 7 or Epix gen 2/Pro and you'll have something infinitely better than the ancient hardware Suunto and Polar have been putting out. Garmin is only competing with themselves at this point.
Enduro 3 is the fenix 8 without the dive feature and external speaker .
Or you could just buy 1 generation behind which is still excellent
Wait for the used/renewed Amazon listings. Same exact product but a few hundred dollars cheaper
Just ordered 47mm version that you reviewed. I had been waiting for this release for some time. The microphone feature is critical as well as the flash light. Thank you for your pretty awesome review!
The chart at 1:53 was quite useful for me as I initially wanted the green 47mm one, but now I see its screen isn't AMOLED, so I need to go for the orange or black one instead. Thanks a lot!
I have a Fenix 3 HR and this generation's set of improvements and new features might make me finally upgrade once I save up enough.
The price of a new release iPhone, they are out of their mind
The watch has more settings and features than an iPhone... particularly useful for an Android phone user?!
If the watch is better than an I phone…. No brainer. Bought it. Love it .
Just ordered my fenix8 Amoled 51mm. Great video thanks for sharing your experience with the watch.
cool watch. Good buy in a year on two, when this ridiculous price will drop a bit :D
Totally agree. This is crazy.
Always the first reviewer I go to. Thanks Dave!
Still waiting for my delivery. I will let you know. Thanks for the Video, I am excited to receive mine now!
I hope Tactix 8 will come soon 🙂
Looking at new Fenix 8 design where they used thin flat tactix bezel … I’m afraid there won’t be any tactix for a while. I love my 7 amoled and only feature I wish to have from fenix 8 is mic/speaker to answer those calls occasionally.
If you take the Fenix 8 and load the Applied Balistics app, you have accomplished the same thing plus, you have a dive computer (if you are into that sort of thing). I bought the Tactix 7 AMOLED this past year and wish that I had waited. I know that this is an early review but, this watch with the new software and added features makes this a perfect watch. I am seriously considering putting my Tactix 7 AMOLED on eBay and grabbing this one.
Maaannnnnn I was SO READY to upgrade my Fenix 7S Sapphire Pro but I dunno if I will. I love the gold faces as a watch I can train with but also wear to work but I was really hoping for a battery life improvement and still have the Solar - as that is handy as a sports teacher and also while out on longer runs. Honestly my dream watch would be the Enduro 43mm gold face with the battery life! I'm happy to sacrifice the Amoled lol. Thank you heaps for these videos. Will be keen to see the later reviews when you've had a chance to use them more.
That was a very positive early review that tried to keep the criticism as dialed down as possible.
As an Epix Pro 51mm owner, I think this is a seriously underwhelming release. No processing power improvements, same hr and gps sensors. Hard pass for me
Garmin is struggling and they are basically remarketing their unused inventory with slight tweaks. Their sales for the Fenix and Epix have not been great.
Not sure how much more batter we need? Biggest upgrade is for rec scuba divers like myself that dive 4 or 5 times a year on vacations and want a dive watch with their standard rented equipment. Now i dont have to have a separate expensive dedicated dive watch.
Hmm but for some of us that have never bought a training/smartwatch, this thing is the bomb. Glad I waited a few more days to order as I was about to pull the trigger on the Epix2.
I hear you. Which watch would you pick is GPS speed tracking was important to you? I would like it to be able to detect spikes in speed and ignore them unless the speed is sustained for at least 1 or 2 seconds. Is that even possible?
@@ChewieTomatoes1 If their sales havent been great then why would they increase the price
I was really hoping for LTE connection so I’m sad Garmin didn’t roll that out. Great video, though!
Agreed. I don’t want to carry my phone around for runs and short hikes, but still want the ability to stay connected. I’ll stick with my Ultra 2 for now while being jealous of Garmin’s battery life
@@Chad-ee2ko For real! It's like, listen, Garmin, I get that I won't use LTE in the backcountry, but that is 3% of my year. My short runs and hikes are 97% of my year, and I want to avoid carrying a brick around while doing those things. Let me choose to turn it off or on!
I do not think that this feature will ever be a good fit due to the way the phone OS’s are tied with the number sharing capabilities. I actually struggled a lot on a recent business trip where i could not have my iPhone with me but, a cellular option on my Tactix would have saved me a lot of pain. On these trips, i am now using my Apple Watch Ultra to keep that connectivity going.
Been waiting for this for a long time. Was about to get up and go to the gym but had to watch this first. Def thinking about buying one. Nervous about the price here in the uk but I’m gonna have a look now. Love the steel bezel. Great review. Thanks Dave.
I recently bought the Fenix 7PRO SAPPHIRE SOLAR for 700€ when it was discounted and I will stay here for a long time. Fenix 8 looks awesome though!
Thank you, Dave ! Your review is the first thing that I've watched when it comes to Fenix 8 🤙💪
Thanks for the great review as usual. I was waiting for the speaker and microphone feature as that will come in very handy during many of my activities. Looks like the new software is a big improvement both visually and functionality so that is great to see. I ordered mine from Garmin today and should have it in next day or two and can’t wait to try it out. Will be selling my EPIX Gen 2. Thanks again for your hard work.
lets gooo! im super excited to see this. its a shame the S version is unavailable in MIP based but im just glad there is a MIP option. long live MIP. i have a 7 pro so im not going to upgrade
Enduro 3 is the way to go. Much better price, huge battery life and the MIP.
@@olirc yeah, but no dive rating. not something i need but its a good peace of mind thing against water damage - i'd like it if i could afford it. but theres no reason other than that realistically to get the fenix 8. i really hope the advanced strength training and strength training plans are added to 7pro though
@@olircIf a 7s fits your wrist you would look funny with an Enduro. It would be nice if they made a smaller version of Enduro.
"lets gooo!"
Cringe AF
@@channul4887 ok?
Just got my first Garmin a week ago coming from Apple. Got a Fenix 6 Pro to see if I wanted to convert. Loving the battery life so far. The 8 seems like it now has the features Apple has that really set the 2 apart other than battery life. Text dictation is a feature I used all the time. Not sure it's worth the extra cost to jump to an 8. It's a pretty hefty price. Great video. Thanks!
Just the video I've been waiting for!
Thank you mate 👍🏾
As an EPIX Pro wearer for the past 6 months (damn I should have waited) I'm very much leaning towards a new purchase.
Appreciate your content!
What will u do with your epix?
They are pretty much the same what you wished you waited for?
@evilphuk Sell it I guess. It's in mint condition
@phehibs My old Galaxy watch had the speaker & microphone function, which I loved and used often.
Also like the smaller bezel = bigger screen.
I use a Fenix 5x saphire, it is indestructible and battery life is awesome 5 years so far. I hope I can change it with this new Fenix 8 saphire 51 mm
Thanks for another great video Dave! You never disappoint! Now I've always appreciated Garmin's fantastic build quality, industry leading metrics and hyper focus on fitness. I've been a fan for many years owning the Venu, Instinct, Fenix and Epix models. While I recently left the Garmin universe to go all in on the Samsung Galaxy Watch Ultra (some might cringe, I know), charging $1,100 for the 47mm Fenix 8 is in a word...exorbitant. Garmin's increasing price tiers will no doubt keep people away and perhaps that includes me as I was contemplating a return. I know that the Fenix has always been their flagship and I recognize that they don't make you sign up for a silly subscription to access all of the data but...with these prices they're motivating people to buy older Garmin models that are on sale, used Garmin's on Facebook Marketplace or perhaps, other brands (Apple, Samsung, ??). Ok...my rant is over. It is an amazing watch...but that price tag. Whoa.
Just bought the Fenix 8 Sapphire AMOLED 47 mm. So excited to try it out 😊😊😊
Are you happy with it? Would you’ve gone with the solar instead?
@@ZacTexC I have bought the instinct 2x solar in addition to the Fenix 8. I plan to make the Fenix 8 my race watch and the instinct 2x solar my day to day use
Thanks for the awesome video ❤I’m definitely going to get the 51mm in solar !! I never had a Garmin watch before but I’ve always wanted one
First Fenix 8 video I’m seeing, so the algorithm seems to be working well. Will definitely use your links if I decide on the 51mm as an update to my 3 yr old Epix 2.
Nice review. Just placed my order in for the 43mm version!
I really don't see many differences between the Fenix 8 Solar and Fenix 7 Pro, except for the microphone and speaker. Same for the Fenix 8 AMOLED vs the "old" Epix Pro. Even battery life is pretty similar. All in all, at first sight it looks like un underwhelming release to me. But yes, it looks great and I want one :)
Release to release there won’t be much change, it’s like phones, but if you wait 2-3 versions you’d see an improvement
For Scuba divers it is pretty nice, most do not exceed 30 meters, having 40 meters is good enough for 90% of Scuba divers. But yes, the extra features are reaching a saturation point. For us here in europe, we can't use the ECG app in any of the garmin watches, so sensor wise it doesn't feel like much of an upgrade from even the 6 pro.
Don't get me wrong, it looks like a great watch, and I am seriously considering buying one because of the Dive functions.
The bonus is the fenix 7 pro is cheaper now ;)
It’s a great release coming from fenix 5. You should not upgrade every time
@@EEDIR-DKECG might still come to Europe, no?
Dive functionality is rather limited though compared to their descent line, also not sure I'd trust a watch I wear as a daily driver for other activities to be a diving watch, anything happening there would spell disaster..
Cool looking watch, just not sure the price tag is worth the upgrade from my 6 pro, considering it's just diving / voice commands..
Great video as usual. It reminds me of the Coros. I’m still keeping my Ultra 2.
Still waiting for LTE...9th rendition maybe?
3rd Fenix8 video I saw & you're the only 1 to note about the dedicated flashlight! MiP display had gotta be the win, but totally need to save for the HIGH price tag
That was a huge feature I wouod have jumped ship on if they didn't include it. Thx for going in depth for the voice recording/mic/ voice command response.
Great review, as always. It is an amazing watch. Thank you so much, Dave.
Fantastic review, as always! Thank you!
I would love to see the voice feature integrate with setting workouts easily. Right now Garmin's workout builder is slow and clunky, I would love to use the voice feature to say something like start a run with 2 miles at x pace, then 5x0:20 sprints, then recover 5 minutes, repeat sprints, etc or start a hiit workout with 5 rounds of 5 exercises 30 seconds each with no rest in between. That would be amazing!
a really nice watch, but when I saw the price, I realised that I still love my Fenix7 Pro very, very much and will continue to do so for a long time to come
Nice early review! I have a Fenix 6S and am debating on upgrading. The new features and software are enticing for sure.
I love MIPS and not sure if I want to transition to AMOLED, but there is no small Fenix 8 with MIPS 😢
This is exactly where I am
I'm there too, but with a Fenix 5X (even older and fewer features).
Just bought the Epix Pro about 6 months ago. Hope Garmin continues to send software updates.
Great video! good points & comparisons to epix! I just got my epix Pro G2 Sapphire 51 in Jan this year so no upgrades for a while :). Thanks!
Ha. I just bought a refurbished Fenix 6 Pro. I like some of the updates, but can't afford spending that much. I figured buying the 6 Pro gives me the functionality I need at a better price.
I have the Fenix 6x Pro which I bought it back in 12/2020. Still works great and the battery life is still decent. I can't see buying an 8x at that price. I am, however, looking a the Polar Grit X Pro 2 which is cheaper and offers a plethora of features along with excellent battery life. So, when the time comes, let's see what happens. Enjoy your 6 Pro, it's a great watch.
Picked up the 51mm Amoled today. 🙂 Thanks for the video definitely helped with all the extra(new) features it has.
How do you find the microphone and speaker?
@@bilaltahir9978 tbh i haven't really used those features. I've used the microphone to set a timer a few times which has been super handy to do on the fly. But as far as playback I haven't tested really.
@@Five7weezy what about the other things? do you like the watch? are you satisfied?
1200 EUR... come on...
I’ve used my Fenix 3 HR Sapphire for the past 8 years and love it! I’m thinking about upgrading to the Fenix 8 🤔 the price is the only thing holding me back
The price is insane taking into account that at least for now there are no must-have features compared to Fenix 7 just a never-look with the same functionality.
Love the look of this watch, I think that I will be getting the 43mm one. I currently have the Venu 3S . I really like that fact the you can set a route for a run or walk if you are in a new place and done know the area.
Aaand my 3rd and laast comment is, I`m gonna get the Enduro 3, because of the price, great battery life and the sapphire lens.
very good review! your videos are very good. i am one of those who still prefer mips. :)
the best fenix 8 review
Thank you for the review
Looking forward for the full review🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
The addition of the diving feature has made me reconsider purchasing the Descent MK3. I believe there are significant innovations in both design and functionality. First and foremost, the internally sealed buttons are crucial, as many of my friends have experienced issues with the buttons on the Fenix series. The new button design seems more durable. I also notice improvements in the software. Is the $300 price difference for the base version worth it? Considering the diving feature, voice commands, and the inclusion of a speaker and microphone, I think it is.
My first stop when checking out the new watches! Great stuff Dave 💪🏃
Thanks Dave! Keep up the great work!
I'm still happy with my Forerunner 955. I would like to have a Fenix series tho,... one day
This was an awesome review and a beautiful watch! This will be a great device despite the increase in price. And I understand why it’s so expensive now with all of the modernized improvements on the software side & screen technology. Garmin could have lowered the price slightly of the current Fénix & Epix lines and reduced the cost of this watch by $100.
And I believe this is direct competition for people who like the AWU but know its features & battery are currently lacking. I recently bought the Fénix 7 Pro SS and absolutely love it. As you mentioned, hopefully some of these software updates get passed down to the recent watch generations.
Thanks for this good video, but so much work init. I'll wait for the coming Fenix (9 or 10) Fenix 8 sounds good but also, kinda the first smart-multisport watch and guess will see where it's headed. I am still so happy with my Fenix 6x sapphire, I bought it years ago thanks to you and your videos!
Just ordered F8 AMOLED 51mm, moving from Apple Watch Ultra 1. Tired of getting health info and training suggestions collected in 10 different subscriptions based apps.
Garmin is a downgrade on the HR sensor, training metrics accuracy and sleep metrics. My Epix2 is a POS compared to my AW ultra.
@@curtisgoodwin8962Agree. Garmin is way behind at this price point. UI is archaic. Only reason to get a Garmin over AWU would be the insane battery life offered by Garmin relative to Apple
Ive got the Fenix 6 pro solar and love it, the battery life has spoiled me from getting any other mainstream smartwatch. Was wanting to upgrade to the 8 but that price... Think I'll hold onto the 6 a little longer!
Great review as always. Very to the point,
I have Fenix 6x pro and now it is time to get the new one Fenix 8 51mm AMOLED. Using it for exercising and diving. And of course for the mobile phone friend.. ☺️ Just waiting for the to get it. Just ordered it.. 🙃👌
How big is your wirst? My wirst is 18 cm... I can't decide between 47 mm or 51 mm😢😢
@@alessandromurgia9895what did you end up with?
Just ordered my 51mm Fenix 8 Solar. It's crazy expensive, but I'll recoup some of that after I sell my Fenix 7x Sapphire Solar. I'll have it for 4 years easy, and they retain their value quite a bit, so I feel like I can justify the purchase.
Wearing a Fenix 7X Solar and it is simply a power bank beast with all the activities I do. Fenix 8 Solar is looking great though and I am glad they kept the MIP display with solar version in 51mm, which obviously will be my next watch. Apple watches are completely non-sence to me with a day or two battery life 😅
I have the epix pro and after watching this I really want fenix 8
I was excited to hear that the MIP solar version got rid of the solar lens. I’m hoping the MIP looks as good as it did on the fenix 6. It’ll be hard to choose between the MIP and amoled though, the titanium amoled with the orange band looks so good!
I'm excited to get my hands on a Solar version. From what I've heard they look much better!
Was thinking I would go with the 51 mm to gain screen size, but since the screen on the 47 mm is the same size going with Amoled sapphire 47 mm. Looking forward to the speaker & microphone
Happy with my tactix 7 amoled. All the features I want, except those button from the new one would be nice to have. Other than that - reallt glad to have all the needed features on mine. Altough looking forward TACTIX 8 series. I think that one will be even crazier than epix 8. Will see.
When is your Garmin Fenix E video out? I know you literally just released this one. But interested to know what the E has to offer. The fenix 8 is nice but very expensive.
The Fenix E is a bizarre thing to offer.
I will stay with my FR 955 solar :D. Simply because it still works great and will upgrade to Fenix 10 :D
Great review! I prefer the forerunner, especially the price point. $1,200 is not justifiable. I'd like to know when the next gen forerunner is expected.
Well its cool that they offer different sizes the 47 and 51 just look dorky on a small to medium size wrists plus it seems like such a large watch would be uncomfortable to run with. The 43 seems like a good balance between being too large and too small.
Dear Dave. Thanks for always making "straight to the point" reviews. You have a really good pace and I always watch your videos. I have a question that I hope you will answer. Is the screen the same as from the Garmin Epix 2 series? I wonder if the screen has become brighter?
I know it's not a lot of new additions to the watch, but the one I really wanted was a speaker/microphone. Glad to see it's on. If the next Apple Watch is a flop I'll finally make the switch to Garmin
For years I am waiting for a rectangular Garmin watch which extends its landscape format asymmetrically to the left side (under sleeve). With a larger screen, bigger solar panel and lots more screen real-estate so you can better see the map, or a video, or an e-mail, or be able to use larger fonts! My ideal size: 2 inch height x 3.5 inches wide (asymmetrically mounted to have more watch to the left side of the watch strap). That is a 3.9 inch diagonal screen (assuming a thin frame). Better sound and much more useful even if a tad more heavy - it could even take phone calls and replace the cell altogether while in vacation!! Of course smaller sizes could also be offered. I guess Apple has a better chance of doing this than Garmin - the iPhone Wrist.
thanks for making this video. I like the proof leak buttons and that will be my primary reason to get upgrade. I own a fenix 7x and i love my 7x so much. The only issue for my 7x is the button. Not sure is it a design flaw or mechancial wearing off, sometimes the start button and the down button get jammed.
If i need to get the fenix 8, i will probably choose the 51mm size. My dilemma is whether choosing the amoled or solar mip version.
Thank you Dave, amazing watch !!!!! Now Garmin is ready to compete Apple & Samsung even if the competition never existed 😁
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excited for the tactix! whenever that comes out lol.
Very nice review 👍 . All in all I mostly care about sport tracking features and not about smart watch features, so except for the scuba tracking there seems to be nothing else. I'm going to keep my Fenix 7 for now. It's a solid update if you like OLED screens, which I don't, and voice assistant and features more on the smart spectrum.
Good review! ❤
Amazing review and product!
Enough said Dave thank you so much
Thanks for another wonderful review.
Do you see the Fenix 8 47mm to be easier to read than the forerunner 965?
As an older runner presbyopia makes it harder to read at closer distances, I switched from the Epix gen 2 to the forerunner 965 because the font and size of the letters/numbers was way more readable.
I would definitely buy if it is even slightly easier to read.
I got the 51mm F8 solar today. It was between that and the enduro 3.i currently have an instinct 2x solar.
Dammit, I just bought this. Hopefully this 47mm titanium version with this pop of color will be for me.
I like the diving option, I dont have to change to my Germin Descent MK2 when going diving.
I am starting to regret buying my Tactix 7 AMOLED. I was torn between the Tactix and the MK3i. With this early review, I can see clearly that this will support the basic shooting solutions and diving. I did not need air integration so, this will serve as a very well qualified dive computer. I look forward to an in depth, long term review to see how it goes but, this checks a lot more boxes and, with the dive computer component, this price tag is very effective. Having a sports watch and a dive computer can easily cost half again what this all-in-one combo brings to the table. Side note - you really should try SCUBA. Some of the most beautiful parts of this planet are under water.
I can’t find this watch anywhere day one, Best Buy also shows sold out already. Amazon’s quiet too. Strange! Got the Epix Pro from Amazon on launch last year.
I appreciate you putting effort in to explain that crazy lineup! 😂 I have the 6 Pro solar (which after watching your review of it I finally bit the bullet and got it years ago). I like the Fenix 8 looks, the battery life is definitely an improvement especially from my 6 Pro Solar, but I don’t think having a new menu and being able to take phone calls is worth it for me. I like the voice actions though and the addition of a flashlight is nice. I don’t think it justifies a $1000+ upgrade for me. If I were in the market for a new one, I’d get it though. For now, I’ll wait until the Fenix 9 lineup and then scoop up an 8 Solar on sale 💯
awesome. As a epix pro sapphire owner the only thing i miss is mic and speaker
Oh man the voice note feature would be awesome to have.
Fenix 8 arriving tomorrow, Epix 2 has been good for two years....