You should update this video after each major movie like endgame. And at the end you can have the prime versions of all the characters fight each other.
This is how I see this going down: Doctor Strange is using the time stone to slow down the Justice League, and Thor fries Cyborg off the bat, also Vison is not using contact but the mind stone, and being a lot of the time out of phase Falcon, Ant-Man, Wasp, Iron Man, Korg, Miek vs. Shazam Captain Marvel and Scarlet Witch vs Wonder Woman Thor, Vision vs. Superman Captain America, Black Widow, Hawkeye, and Bucky vs. Batman Doctor Strange, Wong and Spiderman vs. Flash War Machine, Black Panther, Hulk vs. Aquaman Aquaman destroyed Flash gets destroyed by Spiderman due to being stopped by the time stone but still RIP Spiderman Thor and Vision trying to deal with Superman keeping him occupied but looking for aid Wonder Woman is having a tough battle with Captain Marvel and Scarlet Witch it is a competitive battle Iron Man is avidly battling Shazam but the rest of the dudes are mere distractions Iron Man will take out Shazam Batman is struggling but looking for help Hulk just ends him So it is now still alive on the field: Wonder Woman, and Superman vs. Captain Marvel, Scarlet Witch, Iron Man, Hulk, Thor, Doctor Strange, Wong, Captain America, and Vision So then Superman noticing Wong, and Doctor Strange being the big assets try to go after them. So then it is Going to be a bunch of guys trying to stop Superman from getting to Doctor Strange then Iron Man and Superman have stand off RIP Stark, Hulk comes into aid Thor and Vision but not before he gets Wong So then it looks like Cap Marvel, Scar Witch, Cap America vs. Wonder woman Vision, Thor, Hulk vs. Superman RIP Captain America Doctor Strange equalizing speed of Superman and Wonder woman WW and SM team up take out Doctor Strange by having the Avengers distracted then they out sped Scarlet Witch, which causes Captain Marvel's case to go toe to toe with a Wonder woman who had to dodge threats from Witch so then RIP Captain Marvel but meanwhile a considerable energized Hulk along with exhausted Thor and Vision end up taking out Superman but then here is the final stand Exhausted Stormbreaker Wielding Thor, The Incredible Hulk, Infinity Stone Vibranium AI Vision standing off with a god-killing magic lasso, sword, and shield wielding superspeed basically god Wonderwoman (that fought intensely with Captain Marvel, who is probably the strongest avenger at this point or second to Thor, and also dealt with Scarlet Witch in this time). This is where the battle is take your pick I'd take Hulk but not before seeing the death of Vision, and Thor. Just my take also have not seen many of the DCEU movies so the Justice League may have powers to change this fight from what I am saying. Even with the guardians they would all get killed in the last parts of the fight if they survive that long around when Tony and Cap die...
They did state that if the Justice League didn't take Strange out before he used the time stone the Avengers win in a wash. However, the JL has 3 characters no one on the Avengers is nearly fast enough to stop (Sups, Flash, WW) so if they target Strange immediately there is really no hope for him. Again, assuming they just met up and fought without prep time. With prep time, Strange would already have a stasis loop going so it's Avengers without a fight.
@@shuvamacharya8001 well I could be wrong but those characters aren’t in the dceu and this video is about the character from the mcu and the dceu not the comics
Flash is the most powerful component in this video. No one moves in his perspective. Superman was only a problem because Barry didn’t consider his speed so he was holding back. Especially after Snyder cut.
ya, they were saying vision would lose, he was fucking weakened by a sneak attack in IW, ofc he was having trouble with corvus, these guys are kinda dumb. i was agreeing with them cuz i skipped through the video to where they were saying things about the avengers beating wonder woman and superman, but when they said that i was like no...
Arbal3st because Scarlet Witch has trash af durability and reaction speed. Considering DCEU Supes is FTL AT LEAST, he blitzes before she (and Vision) even know the fight started
He made the time LOOP before he even went to bargain but if he was surprised attacked or hit so fast that he couldn’t react then he wouldn’t be able to rewind time
@@thangtuang260 doctor strange always has secondary protection spells active just a case he’s blind sided so no, none of them would be able to get him.
Superman is a tank, always has been. He weighs his opponent strength only after being attacked first, this along with is moral code is his greatest weakness. No way he beats Doctor strange which possesses Supermans other greatest weakness, magic.
I think if Quicksilver was still alive his speed abilities would’ve developed like how Wanda’s abilities have gotten stronger. I imagine Quicksilver would’ve been like 10x faster than in Age of Ultron by now
@@lettucelanguage7588 Thanos couldn't use the full power of the gauntlet at Stormbreaker because if he did the gauntlet would be destroyed and he would not be able to do his snap.
@@KeyIssues because thanos has the most powerful weapon in the universe, and if you're gonna go round 2 with thanos you're gonna need a God weapon that is equally powerful
This needs to be redone with the real Justice League. Zack Snyder's Justice League I feel shows even more so how powerful Batman, Flash, and Cyborg are.
Dude vision was injured and couldnt use his powers for real in infinity war.... And come on now dude you need to redo this now that you've seen endgame.
Pretty sure they too biased to redo or too busy Also for justice league they giving pros to them for some stuff that haven’t but low balling avengers because of stuff that happened because of plot
@@justafan8556 Dude they claimed that the Justice League would beat Thanos even with the IG and all of the stones lmao. The reality stone alone would be enough for Thanos to completely nullify them.
@@handzofstone1152 literally no way thanos can loose with the infinity stones. He could snap and they all would be dead. Even if they kill him, he comes back through the soul stone.
Guys the beam Thanos shot at Thor was using all of the Infinity Stones combined, pay attention to the glow and the color of the beam, when it's just the power stone the beam is purple as seen on the battle on Titan.
@@samuelnegash6616 my guy that’s what I keep fxcking saying and no one remembers the man could time travel and kill them alllllllll with his vibrating hand over and over and over
@@jacocharzukanamericanautho2422 Do you understand how fast the Flash really is?. The man has unlimited speed and has gone faster than the speed of light. He's so fast that mid fight he could go buy ice cream, eat it, and come back and still kill the entire avengers team before they could blink.
@@jacocharzukanamericanautho2422 Flash has unlimited speed, which means he hs unlimited power. Wanda is not more skilled than Flash in terms of combat. She relies heavily on her telekentic/telepathic powers, but her hand to hand combat is child's play compared to a man who can punch you a million times before you blink literally. Flash also holds back a lot because similar to superman if he used even a fraction of his speed against Wanda, he could quite literally reduce her to her last atom.
@@saleem2724 bro it is stated in the movie that Shazam is as powerful as superman and superman can alone kick ass of cap and thor so just assume what Shazam can do together with him. Bro first increase your knowledge and then speak jerk...
@@saleem2724okay if we are talking about eternals and hypotheticals then to let you know flash can time travel and he can kill them all before they were even born and he doesn't require fake setups like Marvel's time machine he can just do it in a blink of an eye so even before they would be thinking of using time machine they would be dead
People understimate all this Nidavelir sequence (maybe the Russos). Thor shows a level of strength and durability that is far beyond everithing we saw before. To move that rings he need to press something like 4 moons. And survive that blast is like being hited by several nukes.
@@CountSnackula7 fair he could beat Shazam but what about every other justice League member? Superman is able to go 1v1 darkseid and I doubt hulk is stronger than darkseid so transitive property. And is DC and marvel Hercules same?
@@CountSnackula7 didn't he also wreck darkseid in other continuities like TAS superman? Also the avengers get wrecked by thanos Most of the time and it's general consensus at the least that darkseid is more powerful than thanos. I mean darkseid is the literal embodiment of tyranny. You can't kill him permanently so anyone who can stand to that would be overpowered. It wouldn't be easy to win though.
Firstly, it didn't destroy Thanos... secondly, the FULL power of the 6 infinity stones would be enough to repel Stormbreak, hell even the power stone alone would. The problem wasn't the stones, it was the gauntlet. After Thanos snaps, the gauntlet gets ruined, proving that it can't handle the power of the 6 infinity stones that good
@J Foster ? him snapping after that doesn't mean anything... and you can clearly see in Endgame that Thanos is perfectly able to withstand the power of Stormbreaker WITHOUT the gauntlet
That's completely false. Every DC comic, animated series, and animated movies are fantastic. They are every balanced and their stories are fantastic. Marvel doesn't compare in that region. However, DC's recent live action movies are disgusting and kind of a disgrace to movie-making. Marvel is god-tier in terms of live action movies.
Scarlett witch is one the strongest avengers, she would be a considerable threat Edit. A lot of people are talking about quicksilver, but I think he is just outmatched against flash. Flash is shown to be way faster. And quicksilver’s punches aren’t even that strong.
@@jacocharzukanamericanautho2422 did you drink? What kind of a stupid outcome is that quicksilver is slower than flash.... In the mcu has never moved so fast that he time traveled and how can captain america attack something he cant see like ur statement is beyond ridiculous and remember scarlet witch doesn't do well against short range attacks.
@@jacocharzukanamericanautho2422 well i broke it down and it is... Convince me otherwise..... And is fanboy supposed to be an insult if so u just insulted urself
They dont live in the same universe or even in the same multiverse for that matter. Theres a storyline in comics where the universes combined and created the Aggaldam Omniverse, but that's not what's happening so Tony cant have kryptonite.
@@tnt2293 Scarlet Witch, yes. But Vision...it's very possible none of them can even harm him. Keep in mind, Vision is made of Vibranium, which tanked a blast from the power stone(planetary level attack) in IW(Iron Man's shield). Therefore, Vision might not even be able to be harmed by them.
@@tnt2293 those laukeys are alien assassin's trained by Thanos mate not disagreeing with you since Batman stated Superman was more powerful then the planet Earth and then he could wipe them all out if he was evil anyway
@@tnt2293 Why is Wanda more bodied than Dr Strange? They have the same weaknesses. To me, Wanda seems stronger, but Strange is more hax. But they both have the speed and durability problem.
@@tnt2293 Wanda took on Thanos with more stones whilst destroying an infinite stone. Strange only seems to have human speed and durability, like Wanda.
@@centipedicmonster5084 the thing is Cyborg is still learning There is time to boom tube his ass Also like I said I could call john Constantine See how he dose against a real magic user
Ben Zmitty My nerd herd and I actually talked about this. I too considered Wanda, and was a little put off by the fact they ignored her (to an extent. They did talk about her.) as she’s a powerhouse in her universe. I personally thought of her mind powers, but her reaction times are so damn slow she wouldn’t be able to do much. Not unless some next to impossible events and conditions occurred first. Wanda is an absolute badass, don’t get anyone wrong, but she is a slowpoke. And I’m not just stroking DC’s ego. I prefer the MCU immensely, but this one definitely goes to the Justice League
Maria DeLaine de Lafayette she literally stopped a bomb explosion in milliseconds from like 4 meters away also watch her fight at the start of infinity war against proximal midnight. To you see how fast she’s deflecting her hits while trying to take on 2 people and save her lover
Ben Zmitty Yes, and? She’s still too slow. (Also time the bomb. I don’t think it was milliseconds. I believe it was still in the lower seconds. I could be wrong, but she’s still too slow.)
Ben Zmitty “too slow” not “to slow” my dude. Proper tense makes your argument more compelling. Not trying to be rude, but it’s a good thing to know. At any rate, everyone is much faster than her in the Justice League. Maybe Cyborg and Batman’ll have a hard time because they are on the slower side, but Superman could take her out instantly if you think about it. She’s too s l o w. Her reaction times are fast for a human, if you want to give a little, and you could say her physical speed is peak human if you want to continue to give a little, but that’s still not fast enough. Hell, flash could take her down e-z-peasy.
Doctor strange could trap them all in the mirror dimension if the 19 other avengers distracted the justice league, then avengers would clap the justice league easy.
avenger phase 2 infinity war still cant defeat "justice league" if superman quick enough to stole stormbreaker from thor, not even mirror dimension can hold him and wanda is not quick enough to react to superman's / wonder woman's speed
You know that people can react to Captain Marvel, who can cross galaxies in minutes. And dr strange can fight in plages with no time and escape black holes. Superman is not faster
Magic hasn’t been stated to be a weakness to superman. I know Wonder Woman was cutting doomsday with her sword and doomsday is a Kryptonian creature but that doesn’t confirm magic is a weakness to kryptonians. If anything it just shows how powerful her sword is. Scarlett witch’s magic could freeze superman in place probably. Wouldn’t hurt him though so if she focused on him someone else would take her out. She also doesn’t have reaction time feats that show she can react to superman. Atleast none I can recall.
You keep saying that Superman moved from one country to another really quick but Thor can use the Bi-frost and move to the other side of the universe in a matter of seconds soo.
Feats of Marvel: Wanda- Can increase and decrease physical mass, destroyed mind stone. Pushed Vision through hundreds of levels. Trapped an explosion in a force field. Thor- Took full force of star, survived in space for possibly hours, crossed universe in matter of seconds. Doctor Strange- Defeated the demolisher of universes using the time stone, held his own against four stones. Opened hundreds of portals for MCU characters. Hulk- Hurt Surtur, destroyer of Asgard, held champion on Sakaar for two Sakaaran years. Brought half of all life back. Held a building's rubble using one arm, whilst rushing water surrounded him. Captain America- Held open Thanos' Infinity Gauntlet, held helicopter down on the helipad using brute force. Managed to survive all of 2014 Thanos' attacks. Wielded Mjolnir and Stormbreaker. Star-Lord- Earned Thanos respect, survived in space, held infinity stone in his hand, literally killed a planet. Iron Man- Invented an army of robotic suits, injured Thanos minorly, survived getting a moon thrown at him, threw a nuke through a wormhole at a Chitauri ship, and earned Thanos' respect. Managed to dawn the Infinity Gauntlet. Outsmarted 2014 Thanos. Drax- Can stand so incredibly still he becomes invisible to the naked eye. Edit: Thanks for 125 likes! This is the most I've ever gotten! also the replies on this are a war zone btw
@@pimppengu7645 flash can literally manipulate time or create another flashpoint,plus he can just take the gauntlet from thanos since thanos will be caught by surprise because flash is faster than lightspeed
Did we not make it clear that she’s not even close to being fast enough I took her minutes to channel enough energy to destroy the infinity stone get out of here with that
Key Issues it took a while for her to overcome an Infinity Stone, yes, but she can still use her powers faster than that, watch how long it takes her to charge up her powers
@@KeyIssues She reacted to Crossbones' explosion, something calced at supersonic+ speed. You're seriously lowballing the MCU team and highballing the DCEU.
Vision was downplayed here big time. How could his fight with Corvus Glaive be considered when it started with Corvus stabbing him through the back with a magic spear?
You forgetting the part where they mentioned Wonder Woman, Superman, and Flash's speed? They literally said in a pure fight, ignoring speed, MCU would win, but because WW and Supes are both powerful AND fast, unlike Thor or Scarlet Witch, then it's basically no contest. Scarlet needs to cast her spells, but when they notice her as a threat, any of the 3 could blitz her easily. Thanos is strong, but he's not fast and thats why Scarlet almost beat him, he couldn't dodge or return a staggering attack, any of the DCEU 3 could do that though.
Poizin Rath yea they slept on vision so hard jus cuz he got surprised attacked by Corvus. If he didn’t get hit by that glave, he is damn near unstoppable.
"Batman is pretty similar to Captain America" Batman:. Rich No super powers Wears a suit to be op Smart Has a Helper (Alfred) Iron man: Rich No super powers Wears a suit to be op Smart Has a helper (jarvis) *Hmm 🤔 interesting*
Stormbreaker doesn't have the magic attached to it. Thor losing it does not cost him his powers as shown because Thor went almost all of Ragnarok without his hammer or axe and still had his powers. Please watch the movies before you debate about them.
Well, to be fair, Superman is the definition of OP without kryptonite. Honestly though, I think Thor, even without his weapon is a match for durability and almost a match for strength. Sups is much faster, but I don't think that's enough to take Thor out quickly enough to beat all of them. Honestly I think their assessment was pretty good, if the JL recognized the threat Dr. Strange was they would probably win, if not it's not really even a match. Although I think they under estimate how much trouble Sups would have taking out Thor, and, although Ironman, himself, is no match for Superman's speed, his computer is, you don't have to be as fast as him if you know where he's going to be. Ironman may not have the punch to hurt Superman, but he would just need enough to slow him down long enough for Stormbreaker to hit him, which I think he could do. But then you are not considering Wonder Woman although her lack of flight would limit her ability to intervene much. Then there is cyborg, sure, if given the opportunity he could probably hack Ironman's armor, but it's not likely he would really have that opportunity, there is no clear input port into the armor, unlike warmachine's wich can actually be radio controlled, so Cyborg could hack that easy enough, but I don't think that would really influence the outcome that much. MCU 3 Cap would be a match for JL Aquaman, and they definitely underestimate Spiderman to be honest, he's probably close to as strong and durable as Aquaman and is faster. Although he dose severely lack combat experience so Aquaman would probably still take him, just not in the off-hand manner suggested in the video. Ultimately though, despite these disagreements I have I think their final assessment is pretty good, 8 out of 10 for JL, assuming they recognize Strange's threat level.
@@jakeand9020 and that's fine. The outcome isn't the only thing that matters in versus. You have to honour the characters, use actual evidence with proof via statements or feats. Otherwise you're just spreading false information.
@@jakewilson1511 Ok, as far as Sup vs Thor. In the fight Thor apparently "lost" to the Hulk he got a bloody lip. That's the most hurt he's been despite being hit by pretty much everything the MCU has to offer. Without kryptonite Sups was only hurt by Doomsday, even fighting Zod he did not appear to be hurt at all, so I'd say durability is about even. For strength, there is not a lot to go off, Thor is a match for Hulk strength wise, and aside from the newspaper article, actual shown feats for Superman would put him on par with them, tossing vehicles crashing through buildings etc, nothing really seemed to pose any real trouble except another super-strength being. So by lack of feats I'm guessing about equal. Thor can travel fast with the byfrost but otherwise has never gone supersonic, while Sups is shown to go nearly the speed of light in the JL fight. So, Sups is faster. For Spiderman, the building falling on him didn't hurt him, and he was able to lift it once he stopped panicking and actually tried. He's able to move fast enough for bullets so he's not been shot. Aquaman has was stunned by Stepenwolf's back-hand that sent him crashing into a wall, but not actually hurt, and in his solo movie he is shot repeatedly with normal weapons to no notable effect, but is not shown to be fast enough to avoid being shot, and the grenade definitely slowed him down a bit. So Spiderman might have an edge there since he had a building fall on him without doing more than knock him down where similar impacts have at least dazed Aquaman. What else, Wonder Woman has not been shown to be able to fly other than the nonsensical scene at the end if her movie where she flew away, but apparently she forgot how to again by the time of Justice League. For durability she's right there with the rest as the only time she's been hit hard enough to even stun her was Sup's flying headbutt. Her strength is not really shown too much, though I don't recall her throwing around any vehicles other than when she hit god mode from Ares lightening attack (why would you use lightening against the daughter if Zeus?) What else am I missing?
@@jakeand9020 calm child. All i did was state that Thor doesn't lose his powers when he loses the axe. They were spreading false information and i edited it. Simple.
@@Nadie47 well let’s say they meet out of the blue, like these characters meet for the first time not being aware of each other, what’s strange gonna do in a split second of flash running behind him and snapping his neck. Let’s not forget that flash can manipulate time aswell, what’s gonna stop him from going back a few seconds and snapping his neck before strange can cast a spell that loops time….
@@Nadie47 Remember they ain’t even aware of each other so this “doramamu I hav a bargain” creates a pointless argument since strange was aware of his existence and potential power, how’s he supposed know flash is faster than the speed of light?
@A random space bean with internet access. remember this isn’t comic book doctor strange this is movie doctor strange, he is less developed in the movies then his comic book self, which means he doesn’t look forward into the future every-second of the day bc if he did, infinity war wouldn’t have happened and we wouldn’t have endgame, your problem is the fact that your comparing movie characters to comic characters
@Star Wars Fan Vision got back-stabbed when he was being soft and trying to say goodbye to his loved one, he got stabbed by a magical and a very powerful Glaive, and he was injured the entire movie because of it... It is not a reason to bash him and say he's weak, when he's not. He can take on Superman and arguably win (Superman's punches will be absorbed by the Vibranium, and supes has a weakness against magic, and vision has a frikkin infinity stone imbedded in his forehead... One blast and Superman is dead). Wanda literally made Thanos suffer, she literally kept up with him in a fight not letting him touch her once. She can take on Wonder woman without much problems, she can just mind control her to kill the other JL members or just do the same thing to her as Thanos... Thor is a goddamn Asgardian God! He literally wields the strongest weapon in the Universe, has more than a thousand years of battle experience fighting every kind of being throughout the nine realms and beyond. He can literally control the weather, he was durable enough to take the full force of a neutron star hours after being beat up with the power stone, get his head burned by the power stone (which is a planetary attack, cuz if the power stone touches the surface of a planet, it and the it's civilisation will get destroyed), and he did that for 47 seconds, which is basically tanking the strongest nuke ever created (tsar bomba) every seconds for 47 seconds... While supes died from a single nuke.... And please don't start whining about Thor's speed. Thor literally took on Imir (an asgardian) who forced the dwarves to make him a sword that breaks the fabric of reality, which gave him the ability to teleport. Thor was able to keep up with him while he was teleporting and give him a hell of a fight, eventually frying him to a crisp with his lightning! And that was pre-awakened Thor! Now Thor is awakened and is way stronger, he has stormbreaker which gives him the control over the Bifrost. He can travel anywhere he wants in the Universe in seconds using the Bifrost. Hell, even without it he can fly as fast if not faster than supes... Using his own flight ability speed and Stormbreaker's and that's guaranteed lightspeed...
@@saleem2724 If they didn't have have a movie to make, Vision would have reached into Thanos chest, partial faze and kill him or pulled his heart out and kicked it into the Forrest. Movie over. They had like the one character with a specific phase blocking weapon ambush him. Otherwise no one can touch him. And he can become super dense in the stratosphere and hit like an asteroid on someone, how he defeated Count Nefaria Supreme. Superman can't hit this guy and he can partial faze all day. And Hulk super crazy would kick his ass as well. We've seen Superman get trashed by way less strong characters. And sure bring in Shazam family. cap Marvel will destroy them all in 10 minutes. She's way too strong. Cap v Batman is a good fight, but Cap is superpowered, so Batman would have to be way more flawless. But the speed would get some power hits in that would ruin him. Don't even mention Scarlet Witch and reality chaos magic. Or there is not even the beginning of a debate. Even Thor could probably take Superman. There are thorough debates on TH-cam just on that.
@Star Wars Fan no, but Thor is close to it... Flash won't do shit to anyone, he's a human. He'd break his hand trying to punch Vision, Thor, Hulk, Iron Man, Captain Marvel, Worthy cap etc. Superman is the only speedy threat, and wonder woman isn't near the speed of light, and Thor is like as fast as her if not faster. You can't compare the speed of a demigoddess and a straight up Asgardian God, especially if that God has unlocked his full potential, wonder woman would be his chewing toy. Superman will cause trouble obviously, but only cuz of his speed. His strength isn't as great as Thor's, same with durability, versatility (ma dude can literally control the weather), experience etc. And supes is faster than Thor and I know that, but not much faster. Thor's reaction was always super fast, now that he's awakened, it became much faster, and now he also has Stormbreaker which increases his everything, which means he is now EXTREMELY fast like he never was before, and undoubtedly faster than WW. I'm not sure if he's as fast as supes (prolly not), but supes's speed blitzes won't be that effective cuz of Thor's durability... He literally tanked the full force of a Neutron star for 47 seconds after being hours after being slaughtered with the power stone. The amount of energy from that is WAY WAY beyond the amount of energy Supes will produce from his speed blitzes. So it ain't much of a problem. And Vision is as fast as pre-awakened Thor. Fast, but not enough. But he has a Vibranium body, meaning no speed blitz would penetrate the Vibranium, in fact, the Vibranium would just absorb the attacks and redirect them and send superman/Flash flying backwards (because to move at the speed of light you need energy, and that energy would he redirected on them, hurting them. But flash would just break his hand and die)
@Star Wars Fan bruv, I'm not biased. I'm saying the truth and I'm giving you logic. Superman's speed blitz attempts won't work on Thor, Vision, Hulk, Captain Marvel, worthy cap, Iron Man, Iron Spider etc. Same with Diana, because of the upgrade Thor achieved, she isn't able to speed blitz him. Flash would just break his hand trying to punch them. It's common sense. You don't give any reasons as to why the JL would win.
Dr. Strange took on Thanos and gave him a run for his money when Thanos had 4 infinity stones, while Dr. Strange didn't..... Why is this even a debate? Like, all he needs is beings like Thor, Hulk, Captain Marvel etc. While he traps everyone from the justice league in the mirror dimension, the same can be said for Scarlet Witch, she could just mind control Supes and Wonder woman to take out the rest of the league with some backup and that's it
The problem that has always existed when comparing these two universes is that the DC universe is primarily a fantasy based reality. By this I mean the abilities that most of the characters possess are just so far beyond what we could consider realistic and the only beings that can compare to them are each other. The Marvel universe, while having some fantastical elements, tries to base itself a lot closer to what we think of as reality. Hence we get Super Soldiers from drugs, Super scienced armored billionaires, superbly trained spies and “gods” that are actually aliens. The MCU tries to justify a lot if it’s characters abilities. The DCEU doesn’t feel the need to do this and thus a lot of it’s members scale way beyond what can think as realistic. While certain 1v1 matchups are fun to think about the overall power level of the DC universe dwarfs Marvels.
Yeah they say that at the end of the video, the verdict was that if Superman reacts fast enough to beat strange before he can do anything justice league wins since he’s kinda the only one who can possible stop Superman
Honestly if you’re going off the movies then flash is automatically rather useless. He of course has speed on his side but he has no knowledge of fighting in the movie nor any experience. This is shown multiple times in the justice league.
TOXIC SQUIRELS clearly you don’t remember him on “bug duty”. He could literally do that and zap black widow, Hawkeye, quicksilver etc. lol. Yes he’s inexperienced but his ability is just that absurd. Just being “fast” isn’t even close to describing flash’s true abilities. Anyways have a great day
@@rounakmahato67866 You mean those kids that all have Superman-like powers. They all can fly at the end which means they all have super-strentgh and super-speed too, not to mention lightning.
@Salim Abbesi there's 2 HUGE flaws in your theory tho, first, how would Thor know the Sun is one of Superman's strengths? and second, even IF Thor knew about that, Supes could just fly away at WARP speed from wherever the Bifrost would try to open up on him...not so easy
Actually when superman calls for Thor's hammer and gets it out of the hands of Thor iron man would just say "ok, that's a wrap, sorry shakespeare superman just stole your thunder"
@@bluefiremarkii how ..?? Whom did he killed someone who was about to destroy the entire Earth..?? Superman is any day worthy to pick up Thor's Hammer period..🤘
@@arjunprathap9101 yes. If he was the comics version. The DCEU version has not. He has sacrificed nothing, resorts to violence, and has shown little empathy to others but his own parents. If it was superman, totally. He'd lift it. But DCEU superman ain't superman.
I think vision was underappreciated in this, corvus glaives weapon is able to specifically counter the visions vibranium body, without that I think the vision would've been able to defeat app of the black order
@Fire storm Gamer lol how about the fact that Superman is stronger and more durable than Thor. Smh 🤦🏾♂️, Superman>>Thor. WW>>>>>>>Cap. Tony>>Cyborg. Hulk>>Arthur
Loki Odinson super man can’t take hits from stormbreaker or even mjolnir as both are magical. He has no special resistances to magic in general. Plus, super man would definitely get caught off guard by Thor hardly being affected by the heat vision cause he took the full heat of a neutron star for about a minute
@@wyattben123 lol Superman can easily take a hit from Mjolnir, it didn’t even hurt Tony, Thor is physically weaker than Superman,he’s less durable, slower and less versatile. He loses 10/10
Jack Sykkes DID YOU FORGET ABOUT THE CHARACTERS IN S TIER LIKE CELESTIAL PETER QUILL HES A FRIKN GOD FOR CRYING OUT LOUD AND THERES ALSO CHARACTERS LIKE DORMAMMU TOO SO 😐
Kevin The teletubie did you watch guardians two once ego is dead peter is no longer a celestial. And this is avenger vs justice league so what are you on about
@@dantemeza1 Strange can't make a loop when the enemy kills him before he can even react, though. When he 'fought' Dormammu, he had that loop ready before confronting him.
@@The-Capitalist why should we if it's not about comics. shit in the movies (including the protagonist's powers), and this video is based on the movies, not the comics so shhh
Here is what I think. If Dr. Strange saw how extremely powerful they are and how fast they are he could stop time and kill them all. He is definitely able to with how strong his magic is
Ok but I don’t see how anyone could take down a speedster. Realistically. Combining the speed of flash, Superman, and Wonder Woman, they could just smack everybody before they can move. Like what can you do? They move faster than you can think.
Exactly Superman by himself could take them all out if he tried. He can move at light speed, so that's faster than the human mind can even blink. He could chop off every avenger's head and call it a day.
Are we talking travel speed or reaction speed because travel speed, if we give Thor storm breaker, he is able to travel through entire realms in seconds, light takes 500 seconds to travel from the sun to earth so the bifrost is massively faster than light, again with reaction speed in ragnarok Thor had a fight with hela INSIDE the bifrost making his reaction speed very similar to his travel speed feat
Why? Thor has been with and without Stormbreaker in the films. Wonder Woman has only been without her sword once and she was at her most powerful lol. We've never seen Batman without his gadgets.
@@KeyIssues remember thor's mastery of lightning well he could just one shot one of the JL members, one person to another, remember the "biggest lightning blast in the history of lightning" he can use that against the JL members
@@solomonkitungu6525 even with the infinity stones who ever uses them just dies lol. And even with the snap it wont affect the justice league cause their not from that dimension cause they dont exist in that dimension
@@miguelordonez3323 thats comic canon and again if they are on the marvel universe they would still die even if they are from another uni. Thats not how it works
Even with Snyder cut and endgame and wamdavision considered Superman and flash would still solo everyone on mcu lol. Yes if Wanda manages to cast her spells she could kill supes and the others but she is too slow she would get speedblitzed before she can even think about casting anything. Same with dr strange
@@OdintheGermanShepherd however more training doesn’t mean you win. A random dude off the street could take out a MMA fighter, depends a lot on circumstances but the MMA fighter should and would win nearly every time.
@@harrisonbaylor1432 I don’t know it depends really since this justice league batman can be compared to peak human fitness which could make it a little more fair. They’re both incredibly smart but Batman has the advantage in overall smartness and technology. I think Batman would even know not to fight captain America head on which would make him act more stealthy
Good discussion. 😃👍 Talking with some details points. Considering each heroes abilities and powers. I support DC. DC is older than Marvel. Respect to DC (My childhood memories goes with them GREAT ).😃😃😃
Were forgetting the most powerful weapon aside from the Infinity Gauntlet. Scarlett Johansson's wonderful ass. All she has to do is wiggle it at Superman and he'll stop dead in his tracks.
@@geckwo even then she destroyed an infinity stone while holding back thanos w 5 stone, and I kno thanos was holding back but he still had to try a decent bit
Doesn't matter since Wanda is psychotic. She couldn't beat Thanos, so she'd be toast by Wonder Woman. Justice League is several times more powerful than the Avengers. Maybe if she could control her powers, but she can't really yet. Two strong warriors took out Vision and Scarlett Witch twice and those two wouldn't have lasted 10 seconds against Wonder Woman. She's the most deadly on the team really, as she doesn't have a weakness.
You're funny who would you like me to list the people that the justice league came together to take down thayhave defeated the gods of Olympus before also the new gods of The universe so stop it
Tom Barrett back to you:avengers and age of ultron.they pull of some great combos and ode each other’s weapon very well.On the other hand:justice league just take turns punching stepping wolf
Tom Barrett in my opinion infinity war had the best team work:which is the battle of planet titans.If is not for star lord they would have won it there
@@quistian69 Seeing how Thanos broke through the Mirror Dimension there is a possibility Thanos could have overcome the loop, plus Strange was trying to keep it protected. Also just because he didn't used it on Thanos doesn't mean he didn't easily do it to Dormmanu.
Bro that segment about Batman having more experience than Cap is such a huge steaming pile of bs. He's been fighting for over half a decade. He first fought in an actual war, then against villains, and then another war. What does batman do? Fight with his gadgets once he became a billionaire. And the villains he fights aren't even anything special compared to the enemies cap alwayd faces.
First odin maybe die but sometime he can comeback becauese Thor still prays to him Second Thor will stronger than odin BUT NOT FOR NOW but i know he will And Third even in this form i think Thor can handle superman DCEU and he has 65% to wins this fight
Vision should have been considered more, he literally can’t be hit unless a special tools are used Also what if Doctor Strange could warp Superman to another planet where the sun couldn’t help him we know from endgame he can Also I know this was before endgame
vision is basically martian manhunter and martian is vision with better training and more powers. plus doctor strange might be able to do that but if he does it to someone else they would remain the same and would have just as much fight damage
@@infxted9087 technically there are two Captain Marvels ... The DC version of Captain Marvel now goes by the name Shazam. The Marvel version of Captain Marvel used to be ms Marvel.
Thor can beat Wonder Woman easily with lightning only Wonder Woman can move at least hypersonic speed level and natural lightning itself is way faster than hypersonic and hypersonic doesn't even come close to that. +Thor's lightning is magical, so you can at least multiply the speed of natural lightning times 2 which is far beyond the speed of Wonder Woman and higher than high hypersonic speed. This is just only lightning strike speed not travel speed.
They didn't even consider Scarlet witchs ability she destroyed an infinity stone while holding back thanos with five stones at the same time, vision holds an infinity stone, thor overpowered thanos with all six infinity stones, dr strange is just a beast and he has mastered an infinity stone, shuri's technology and ingeniousness is out of this world and tony stark can call an iron legion whenever he wants, if tony perfected his iron legion to the state of power that the mark 50 has and the power pim particles provide would give the advantage over the dceu and what about every other avenger and guardians there is in the mcu plus captain marvel it was completely biased
Austin Hayden this was made before Endgame was released, Thor caught Thanos off guard and that’s why he overpowered the gauntlet. Thanos knew that he was going to have to use the time stone so he wasn’t trying when he was trying to get to vision. Doctor Strange might have been able to hold back Thanos but was still over powered. You are assuming that iron man has perfected the iron legion but the iron legion was blown up in iron man three. This was infinity war and guess what, Ant man wasn’t in that movie. You probably didn’t even finish the video and you are a marvel fanboy who isn’t seen a single DC movie.
@@thindac9598 Tony had back up suits, he's Tony Stark. Like Pepper said she couldn't make him stop. Dr. Strange , Scarlet Witch and Captain Marvel Alone would be enough to be Game Changers Thor's Storm Breaker Tank the Full Force of The Infinity Gauntlet
IceColdDarkElf RPG The directors of Infinity War states that their just caught him off guard and Thanos didn’t know the power of what was coming at him. Storm breaker can’t actually tank the Gauntlet. I also never said that DC would win, it’s just that the video wasn’t biased. They also had to lowball Superman’s strongest feat. I feel like marvel would win because of their numbers and powerful heroes.
@@archangel7772 lets not forget that Thor withstood a neutron star's full blast for about a minute, after basically shifting a planetary scale forge, with nothing but a space ship and his legs, all pre storm breaker, a nuclear missile took out superman and he needed the sun to heal him up, and a nuclear missile is 0.000000001% or even less of a neutron star, which thor withstood for a minute as opposed to an instant explosion for superman. His forge shifting feat is at least comparable to the tectonic plate feat, and this all lightning mastery (awakened) thor without storm breaker. I think it's safe to say that Thor is way way way more durable and at least as strong as superman without stormbreaker, and way stronger with stormbreaker, that speed is really the only issue, if not Thor takes care of the justice league
They also downplayed Supermans weakness to magic, which plays much more of a factor than they're making it seem,superman who is clearly stronger than wonder woman has been taken down by her on some occasions, although I know that only movies were taken into consideration
thor might survive, doesnt mean he wins though. he's still slow, that's his weakness. if he can hit superman with stormbreak then i give it to thor, but back again to speed. this is the reason why they always consider speed when fighting because it is a feat to be taken seriously.
@@archmad but you have to realize that it's not like they use their speed at all times, like wonder woman was still able to headbutt superman, I know she's still faster than Thor, but Thor will definitely be able to hit him, Strange will definitely be able to access the time stone, the only way these guys start using their speed immediately is if they already know what each avenger is capable of
Maybe Supes can just fly back his power won't just vanish because there is no yellow sun around he still has some store in his body in that case,but it might take a long time for him to come back anyway so I guess this is a pretty useful way to take Supes out temporally
Thor would have to know about that weakness, I doubt he could deduce something like that and supes could still fly to a sun usually, he can have power stored tho idk if dceu can
@@thedragon1363 If they were in the same universe and Krypton was within the 9 realms, Thor would likely know the weaknesses of the Kryptonians. He likely would have fought them before since he fights all of the realms inhabitants when he gets bored. Thor is a lot smarter than people give him credit for even in the MCU. These guys even mention it in another one of their videos. They also talk like Cap would be the one fighting Batman when it would likely be Iron-man v Batman.
@@numbersdontlie5954 krypton wouldn’t be in the 9 realms for one and kryptonians wouldn’t be a challenge on their planet and iron man would do better fighting someone stronger maybe trying to not die to Superman
Fr fucking milnior traveled to the edge of the galaxy and back in less than a minute tell me and im guessing stormbreaker is abt that so therefore thor woth stormbreaker could prolly travel way faster than the speed of light
@@kalewilson7756 I love marvel and dc but the flash said in the JLU animated series he can think and move at the speed of light. Yes, Thor may have light speed but if he can't react then that's no help. That like Sloth from Full Metal Alchemist where he was the fastest, but when he stopped moving he was slow.
Easy W
Alright listen. Did you delete my reply?
@@dakotatrue12 No, it was likely stopped by the TH-cam spam filter.
You should update this video after each major movie like endgame. And at the end you can have the prime versions of all the characters fight each other.
Key Issues you forgot about wanda in phase 3
@@Legend-gu6yp Yeah cause now DC has the Shazam Family, which is amazing that that included it within the DCEU
This is biased. Neither of you took Drax's ability to become invisible into consideration.
Lol
TOBLERONE TUBE doesn’t matter because sibord will direct his steps
Exactly
16:32
Bucky: Am I a joke to you?
This is how I see this going down:
Doctor Strange is using the time stone to slow down the Justice League, and Thor fries Cyborg off the bat, also Vison is not using contact but the mind stone, and being a lot of the time out of phase
Falcon, Ant-Man, Wasp, Iron Man, Korg, Miek vs. Shazam
Captain Marvel and Scarlet Witch vs Wonder Woman
Thor, Vision vs. Superman
Captain America, Black Widow, Hawkeye, and Bucky vs. Batman
Doctor Strange, Wong and Spiderman vs. Flash
War Machine, Black Panther, Hulk vs. Aquaman
Aquaman destroyed
Flash gets destroyed by Spiderman due to being stopped by the time stone but still RIP Spiderman
Thor and Vision trying to deal with Superman keeping him occupied but looking for aid
Wonder Woman is having a tough battle with Captain Marvel and Scarlet Witch it is a competitive battle
Iron Man is avidly battling Shazam but the rest of the dudes are mere distractions
Iron Man will take out Shazam
Batman is struggling but looking for help Hulk just ends him
So it is now still alive on the field:
Wonder Woman, and Superman
vs.
Captain Marvel, Scarlet Witch, Iron Man, Hulk, Thor, Doctor Strange, Wong, Captain America, and Vision
So then Superman noticing Wong, and Doctor Strange being the big assets try to go after them.
So then it is
Going to be a bunch of guys trying to stop Superman from getting to Doctor Strange then Iron Man and Superman have stand off RIP Stark, Hulk comes into aid Thor and Vision but not before he gets Wong
So then it looks like
Cap Marvel, Scar Witch, Cap America vs. Wonder woman
Vision, Thor, Hulk vs. Superman
RIP Captain America
Doctor Strange equalizing speed of Superman and Wonder woman
WW and SM team up take out Doctor Strange by having the Avengers distracted then they out sped Scarlet Witch, which causes Captain Marvel's case to go toe to toe with a Wonder woman who had to dodge threats from Witch so then RIP Captain Marvel but meanwhile a considerable energized Hulk along with exhausted Thor and Vision end up taking out Superman but then here is the final stand
Exhausted Stormbreaker Wielding Thor, The Incredible Hulk, Infinity Stone Vibranium AI Vision standing off with a god-killing magic lasso, sword, and shield wielding superspeed basically god Wonderwoman (that fought intensely with Captain Marvel, who is probably the strongest avenger at this point or second to Thor, and also dealt with Scarlet Witch in this time).
This is where the battle is take your pick I'd take Hulk but not before seeing the death of Vision, and Thor.
Just my take also have not seen many of the DCEU movies so the Justice League may have powers to change this fight from what I am saying.
Even with the guardians they would all get killed in the last parts of the fight if they survive that long around when Tony and Cap die...
Justice league: *Uses combined power*
Dr Strange: *Uses "bargain"*
SUPER EFFECTIVE
ِ ِdc: uses doctor fate
@@idontknow5470:not in the DC EU
Jayce Taylor Time looped
@@idontknow5470 Doctor Fate is stuck in a time loop! Avengers has won! Earned BRAGGING RIGHTS!
They did state that if the Justice League didn't take Strange out before he used the time stone the Avengers win in a wash. However, the JL has 3 characters no one on the Avengers is nearly fast enough to stop (Sups, Flash, WW) so if they target Strange immediately there is really no hope for him. Again, assuming they just met up and fought without prep time. With prep time, Strange would already have a stasis loop going so it's Avengers without a fight.
NoobMaster69 could take them all on
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Oh, yes, of course
Agreed
@Nintendo Theory do you know what a meme is?
Who is that tho
For those who are saying that Scarlet Witch was severely underappreciated in this video, let me remind yall that this vid is posted two years ago XD
Fact, she can take out Wonder Woman, Aqua Man, Cyborg and batman at the same time without a problem.
I'll call out John Constantine or Dr fate for that😌😌😌
@@shuvamacharya8001 well I could be wrong but those characters aren’t in the dceu and this video is about the character from the mcu and the dceu not the comics
@@mybek6197 Yah!... That's right.. they aren't in dceu... But they on dc series...
@@mybek6197 they exist in the dceu I bet dr fates daughter can put up a fight aginst Wanda
Which is better?
Marvel = Like
DC = Comment
Virtual HD dc
I like MARVEL way better but DC is way stronger.
DC ARE GODS
@@kingclampz6081 dc
@@masterchannel8440 that's why dc sucks
Physically Cap bodies Batman... that's no issue.
And you guys completely neglected Vision and Scarlet Witch.
Yea they neglected vis and scarlet.Your right physically and maybe speed wise cap beats bats but nothing else
Drax but I'm moving so slow, I'm invisible i know there missing them
Exactly those two would crush the justice league
Joshua Lombard no they wouldn’t
yes it would now superman have counter part and wanda is powerfull now its fair
If scarlet lifts flash into the air..
What’s he gonna do? Run fast in place?
Jarfield she has to catch him first if not he will faze right at that heart of hers
Jarfield HAHHAHA I CAN SEE THAT HAHAHA
Eden's Zero fan keyword bullets the flash is so much faster then a bullet
no she just stops the entire team in place and thor and iron man just make minced meat out of them
@@seykstyyppi1294 she would be blitzed by superman or flash target 1... the other 1 kills here, she's normal human durability.
Flash is the most powerful component in this video. No one moves in his perspective. Superman was only a problem because Barry didn’t consider his speed so he was holding back. Especially after Snyder cut.
Right, flash is the best character with very difference, 👌
Yes flash no diffs the majority of them. I like avengers but flash and superman can take OG avengers with one hand each
Vastly underrating Scarlet Witch and Vision's power.
Thank you
ya, they were saying vision would lose, he was fucking weakened by a sneak attack in IW, ofc he was having trouble with corvus, these guys are kinda dumb. i was agreeing with them cuz i skipped through the video to where they were saying things about the avengers beating wonder woman and superman, but when they said that i was like no...
Arbal3st because Scarlet Witch has trash af durability and reaction speed. Considering DCEU Supes is FTL AT LEAST, he blitzes before she (and Vision) even know the fight started
Yeaa broooo... hands down Phase III would have little difficulty against Justice League
The Real One you mean the Justice League would have little difficult against the Avengers?
26:04 “He can’t rewind something if he’s dead”
Dormammu I’ve come to bargain
MacCheesey he can actually
He made the time LOOP before he even went to bargain but if he was surprised attacked or hit so fast that he couldn’t react then he wouldn’t be able to rewind time
He has to set that up before he gets taken out and that only brings it to a draw he would only be able to make supes promise not to punch him
@@thangtuang260 doctor strange always has secondary protection spells active just a case he’s blind sided so no, none of them would be able to get him.
Superman is a tank, always has been. He weighs his opponent strength only after being attacked first, this along with is moral code is his greatest weakness. No way he beats Doctor strange which possesses Supermans other greatest weakness, magic.
But spider man has instant kill mode
İsatashi yea
Exactly!
@@Miikudo but spidermans suit is made by a rich person
İsatashi so is ironman
And spidersense
I think if Quicksilver was still alive his speed abilities would’ve developed like how Wanda’s abilities have gotten stronger. I imagine Quicksilver would’ve been like 10x faster than in Age of Ultron by now
Quicksilver doesnt actually move fast he slows time around himself
And yet he got caught by bullets…
But A) He's not B) Flash can still delete Quicksilver by going back in time and massacring the Avengers before they got all their powers.
Which would make him a million times slower than Barry
If quicksilver was still alive he would be op
Wanda held back thanks who had 5 infinity stones with one hand while killing vision in the other and don’t even consider her a top 5 avenger
she gets slapped by batman and she's dead.... can't take any damage flash would easily kill her without even thinking
If you look, thanos only used the space stone
BasedGod BasedGod Batman wouldn’t even get close and she could just go ultra rage and instantly kill everyone in the nearest vicinity
BasedGod BasedGod r u kidding ur a dumbass
Ok first off thanos was holding back but Wanda is very strong one of the most strongest and she could put up a one of the best fights
You forgot that stormbreaker is not thor's source of power its just channels thor's power.
Said in thor ragnarok
Sigh.... then why did he go and get it? He got destroyed by Thanos when he didn’t have it.
Dr. Astro you sound stupid af did it look like he got caught off guard or did it look like he shot a giant beam of all the stones
@@lettucelanguage7588 Thanos couldn't use the full power of the gauntlet at Stormbreaker because if he did the gauntlet would be destroyed and he would not be able to do his snap.
@@KeyIssues because thanos has the most powerful weapon in the universe, and if you're gonna go round 2 with thanos you're gonna need a God weapon that is equally powerful
It channels his lightning but, he clearly can't fly or summon the bifrost without it.
"Dr strange cant reverse time if he is dead"
Tell that to him when he comes to bargain
Shadowfox Gaming its called using the TIME LOOP with the stone
@@The.Sultan I know, thats the joke
But he can activate a time loop before the battle so even if he is dead he gets revived.
HE CANT CAUSE HES DEAD
GameAndroid Presslive TRUE
This needs to be redone with the real Justice League. Zack Snyder's Justice League I feel shows even more so how powerful Batman, Flash, and Cyborg are.
Dude vision was injured and couldnt use his powers for real in infinity war.... And come on now dude you need to redo this now that you've seen endgame.
Thats true
Pretty sure they too biased to redo or too busy
Also for justice league they giving pros to them for some stuff that haven’t but low balling avengers because of stuff that happened because of plot
Yes this is pretty bias
@@justafan8556 Dude they claimed that the Justice League would beat Thanos even with the IG and all of the stones lmao. The reality stone alone would be enough for Thanos to completely nullify them.
@@handzofstone1152 literally no way thanos can loose with the infinity stones. He could snap and they all would be dead.
Even if they kill him, he comes back through the soul stone.
Guys the beam Thanos shot at Thor was using all of the Infinity Stones combined, pay attention to the glow and the color of the beam, when it's just the power stone the beam is purple as seen on the battle on Titan.
And the same thor got beaten very badly when thanos didn't had infinity stones and that too with mjolnir and storm breaker
@@vijaypareek2700 Not the same Thor, future Thor, who hadn't been training or maintaining his physique from before.
If he had been training in those 5 years, and used Mjolnir and Stormbreaker and was at his full power, he could've swept Thanos ez
Then if the thanos in endgame had infinity stones he could easily have beaten all of the avengers
The question is not about future or past the question is about the present......who is powerful at present
Doctor Strange: lemme just throw everybody in another dimension and call it a day
Cyborgs boomtube might work
Wanda be like lemme make superman a waiter and wonder woman a clown in a circus
Flash like lemme go back in time and stop the from being super herose
@@based9018 Wanda taking the flashes legs out of existence like: going somewhere
@@demontiming3234 Flash takes stevens head off before he even cast a spell
Flash could honestly take out the whole Avengers by himself before any of them could even blink
Everyone forgets that the flash can time travel
@@samuelnegash6616 my guy that’s what I keep fxcking saying and no one remembers the man could time travel and kill them alllllllll with his vibrating hand over and over and over
@@jacocharzukanamericanautho2422 Do you understand how fast the Flash really is?. The man has unlimited speed and has gone faster than the speed of light. He's so fast that mid fight he could go buy ice cream, eat it, and come back and still kill the entire avengers team before they could blink.
@@jacocharzukanamericanautho2422 Flash has unlimited speed, which means he hs unlimited power. Wanda is not more skilled than Flash in terms of combat. She relies heavily on her telekentic/telepathic powers, but her hand to hand combat is child's play compared to a man who can punch you a million times before you blink literally. Flash also holds back a lot because similar to superman if he used even a fraction of his speed against Wanda, he could quite literally reduce her to her last atom.
@@controlman7490when have we seen flash do this
Now he needs to do this again with Captain Marvel, and the scarlet witch 😂😂
Bro just include Shazam family and they will devastate them all
Legend Clasher cap 🧢
@@saleem2724 bro it is stated in the movie that Shazam is as powerful as superman and superman can alone kick ass of cap and thor so just assume what Shazam can do together with him.
Bro first increase your knowledge and then speak jerk...
@@saleem2724okay if we are talking about eternals and hypotheticals then to let you know flash can time travel and he can kill them all before they were even born and he doesn't require fake setups like Marvel's time machine he can just do it in a blink of an eye so even before they would be thinking of using time machine they would be dead
@@saleem2724 even he assumed that flash is not at full power because with flash on your side no fight is fair 😂💪💪💪
Antman could get inside of cyborg and do some internal damage like he did to iron man
Or go Giant Man and just, y’know, step on him
Umm ant man is not in infinity war
@@deathlord_ smh he meant in endgame
He’s a cyborg there’s no way inside him
Adem how do u know? Jajaja 😃
Thor tanked the power of a star! I mean come on.
A neutron star, Superman would break his hand trying to hit Thor
Superman is healed by stars like that...
Thor died he came back from the magic from strombreaker
People understimate all this Nidavelir sequence (maybe the Russos). Thor shows a level of strength and durability that is far beyond everithing we saw before. To move that rings he need to press something like 4 moons. And survive that blast is like being hited by several nukes.
Superman would get destroyed trying to hurt thor because he lost to batman and were talking about if you take away his weapons batman is useless
DC universe is for Gods. Marvel is for Human. So it's a easy W for JL.
@@CountSnackula7 the JL has way more god's or at least god like people
@@CountSnackula7 iron man would lose, Shazam has the power of Zeus and Hercules.
@@CountSnackula7 wwh is a buffed version of hulk
@@CountSnackula7 fair he could beat Shazam but what about every other justice League member? Superman is able to go 1v1 darkseid and I doubt hulk is stronger than darkseid so transitive property. And is DC and marvel Hercules same?
@@CountSnackula7 didn't he also wreck darkseid in other continuities like TAS superman? Also the avengers get wrecked by thanos Most of the time and it's general consensus at the least that darkseid is more powerful than thanos. I mean darkseid is the literal embodiment of tyranny. You can't kill him permanently so anyone who can stand to that would be overpowered. It wouldn't be easy to win though.
Also Thanos didn’t use just the power stone, he used ALL the stones and stormbreaker still destroyed Thanos
GuitarFire 111 these guys are retarded storm breaker caught Thanos off guard even the director said it that’s the only reason it almost killed him
Firstly, it didn't destroy Thanos... secondly, the FULL power of the 6 infinity stones would be enough to repel Stormbreak, hell even the power stone alone would. The problem wasn't the stones, it was the gauntlet. After Thanos snaps, the gauntlet gets ruined, proving that it can't handle the power of the 6 infinity stones that good
@J Foster ? him snapping after that doesn't mean anything... and you can clearly see in Endgame that Thanos is perfectly able to withstand the power of Stormbreaker WITHOUT the gauntlet
@J Foster The directors stated that Thanos did not know that stormbreaker was coming if he did he would have easily stopped stormbreaker.
MCU Stormbreaker was built specifically to kill thanos
Justice league loses in character writing and character balancing.
Only in movie
Thanos is the master at balancing
That's completely false. Every DC comic, animated series, and animated movies are fantastic. They are every balanced and their stories are fantastic. Marvel doesn't compare in that region. However, DC's recent live action movies are disgusting and kind of a disgrace to movie-making. Marvel is god-tier in terms of live action movies.
Yeah, Superman is just an op God that can wipe the floor with any avenger.
@@ihavetoworktomorrowthanks8173
Yeah when it comes to literally everything else that isn't a live action movie or show, DC is way better than Marvel.
We all know creative mode Steve wins
*TNT PLACING INTENSIFIES*
Bro even survival mode Steve wins with his god like strength and ability to make a potion that lets him go light speed
@@krrunks there is nothing 'God like' about his strength ww would destroy him she lifted a *32 tonne* military tank
Raixnyrxses steve can literally destroy entire minecraft worlds which are infinite
20 Marvel heroes vs. Superman. My money's on Superman.
Scarlett witch is one the strongest avengers, she would be a considerable threat
Edit. A lot of people are talking about quicksilver, but I think he is just outmatched against flash. Flash is shown to be way faster. And quicksilver’s punches aren’t even that strong.
She would be done for the flash would wipe her out before she can lift a finger
Scarlet is shit in infinity war if we are talking about endgame I think avengers clap
@@jacocharzukanamericanautho2422 did you drink? What kind of a stupid outcome is that quicksilver is slower than flash.... In the mcu has never moved so fast that he time traveled and how can captain america attack something he cant see like ur statement is beyond ridiculous and remember scarlet witch doesn't do well against short range attacks.
@@jacocharzukanamericanautho2422 well i broke it down and it is... Convince me otherwise..... And is fanboy supposed to be an insult if so u just insulted urself
@Death247x Gaming he only reads the future when needed, for an event like this he wouldn't know.
You have to think, if they both live in the same universe, iron man would no doubt have kryptonite. Especially if batman had some.
AJ Rest its no prep time it's just they run into each other on the street and start fighting
They dont live in the same universe or even in the same multiverse for that matter. Theres a storyline in comics where the universes combined and created the Aggaldam Omniverse, but that's not what's happening so Tony cant have kryptonite.
AJ Rest up
But that would be considered as having prep time and by then Batman will figure out how to defeat every avenger
Ahmed H Batman isn’t smarter than tony or doctor strange
This is extremely biased and vastly underrated the power of vision and The Scarlett witch I can’t take this seriously
@@tnt2293 Scarlet Witch, yes. But Vision...it's very possible none of them can even harm him. Keep in mind, Vision is made of Vibranium, which tanked a blast from the power stone(planetary level attack) in IW(Iron Man's shield). Therefore, Vision might not even be able to be harmed by them.
@@tnt2293 those laukeys are alien assassin's trained by Thanos mate not disagreeing with you since Batman stated Superman was more powerful then the planet Earth and then he could wipe them all out if he was evil anyway
Vision can phase to almost anything plus he have a stone so he is planetary
@@tnt2293 Why is Wanda more bodied than Dr Strange? They have the same weaknesses. To me, Wanda seems stronger, but Strange is more hax. But they both have the speed and durability problem.
@@tnt2293 Wanda took on Thanos with more stones whilst destroying an infinite stone.
Strange only seems to have human speed and durability, like Wanda.
Very kind of you to put a whole army of mcu characters against 6 DCEU characters
Dr. Strange drops them all in a different dimension, fight over.
Dr. Strange: Dormammu?! I brought you guests. Play nice!
Cyborg doom tubs your magic freak into the middle of a random sun
Disintegrated and dead
Or should I call my friend john Constantine
Tony Stank so he fights him by not fighting him? lol
@@eeveemaster8902 but there are movies cyborg has never done anything like that in the movies
@@centipedicmonster5084 the thing is
Cyborg is still learning
There is time to boom tube his ass
Also like I said
I could call john Constantine
See how he dose against a real magic user
@@eeveemaster8902 I completely agree with you but he has hasnt learnt everything he can so he cant do that
In the infinity war battle why didn’t you count scarlet witch
Ben Zmitty My nerd herd and I actually talked about this.
I too considered Wanda, and was a little put off by the fact they ignored her (to an extent. They did talk about her.) as she’s a powerhouse in her universe. I personally thought of her mind powers, but her reaction times are so damn slow she wouldn’t be able to do much. Not unless some next to impossible events and conditions occurred first. Wanda is an absolute badass, don’t get anyone wrong, but she is a slowpoke.
And I’m not just stroking DC’s ego. I prefer the MCU immensely, but this one definitely goes to the Justice League
Maria DeLaine de Lafayette she literally stopped a bomb explosion in milliseconds from like 4 meters away also watch her fight at the start of infinity war against proximal midnight. To you see how fast she’s deflecting her hits while trying to take on 2 people and save her lover
Ben Zmitty Yes, and?
She’s still too slow.
(Also time the bomb. I don’t think it was milliseconds. I believe it was still in the lower seconds. I could be wrong, but she’s still too slow.)
Maria DeLaine de Lafayette how is she to slow
Ben Zmitty “too slow” not “to slow” my dude. Proper tense makes your argument more compelling. Not trying to be rude, but it’s a good thing to know.
At any rate, everyone is much faster than her in the Justice League. Maybe Cyborg and Batman’ll have a hard time because they are on the slower side, but Superman could take her out instantly if you think about it. She’s too s l o w. Her reaction times are fast for a human, if you want to give a little, and you could say her physical speed is peak human if you want to continue to give a little, but that’s still not fast enough.
Hell, flash could take her down e-z-peasy.
Doctor strange could trap them all in the mirror dimension if the 19 other avengers distracted the justice league, then avengers would clap the justice league easy.
If thanos can brake through the mirrow dimension superman cab too but the rest would be traped
@@scrd_mistreatedy7057 that wasnt him breaking through the mirror dimension lmao.
killer tostn he shot a fragment of the mirror demension at thanos, big difference
@@scrd_mistreatedy7057 thanos only broke out because of the infinity stones
killer tostn he had the reality stone, you know the one that allows you to travel to other reality
avenger phase 2 infinity war still cant defeat "justice league"
if superman quick enough to stole stormbreaker from thor, not even mirror dimension can hold him
and wanda is not quick enough to react to superman's / wonder woman's speed
You know that people can react to Captain Marvel, who can cross galaxies in minutes. And dr strange can fight in plages with no time and escape black holes. Superman is not faster
you got phase 2 wrong. you did not factor in Scarlet witch's magic on superman and vision's worthiness
And they forgot ironman
And also we are forgetting doctor strange who has the power to control space and time and he also has magic
Did u even listen
Magic hasn’t been stated to be a weakness to superman. I know Wonder Woman was cutting doomsday with her sword and doomsday is a Kryptonian creature but that doesn’t confirm magic is a weakness to kryptonians. If anything it just shows how powerful her sword is. Scarlett witch’s magic could freeze superman in place probably. Wouldn’t hurt him though so if she focused on him someone else would take her out. She also doesn’t have reaction time feats that show she can react to superman. Atleast none I can recall.
@@user-qw1ns7fq7o not in the dceu but in the comics that is a very powerful weakness
You keep saying that Superman moved from one country to another really quick but Thor can use the Bi-frost and move to the other side of the universe in a matter of seconds soo.
I don’t think he knows how to summon the bi frost right now he can do it with storm breaker but usually Somone has to summon the bi frost for him
@@blackmamba159 did u not see the other avengers he has summoned the bifrost
Chatha246, watch Infinity War bud.
Doesn’t help Thor in a fight whatsoever, unless he’s retreating
Imagine thinking the Bifrost gives Thor higher combat speed.
Feats of Marvel:
Wanda- Can increase and decrease physical mass, destroyed mind stone. Pushed Vision through hundreds of levels. Trapped an explosion in a force field.
Thor- Took full force of star, survived in space for possibly hours, crossed universe in matter of seconds.
Doctor Strange- Defeated the demolisher of universes using the time stone, held his own against four stones. Opened hundreds of portals for MCU characters.
Hulk- Hurt Surtur, destroyer of Asgard, held champion on Sakaar for two Sakaaran years. Brought half of all life back. Held a building's rubble using one arm, whilst rushing water surrounded him.
Captain America- Held open Thanos' Infinity Gauntlet, held helicopter down on the helipad using brute force. Managed to survive all of 2014 Thanos' attacks. Wielded Mjolnir and Stormbreaker.
Star-Lord- Earned Thanos respect, survived in space, held infinity stone in his hand, literally killed a planet.
Iron Man- Invented an army of robotic suits, injured Thanos minorly, survived getting a moon thrown at him, threw a nuke through a wormhole at a Chitauri ship, and earned Thanos' respect. Managed to dawn the Infinity Gauntlet. Outsmarted 2014 Thanos.
Drax- Can stand so incredibly still he becomes invisible to the naked eye.
Edit: Thanks for 125 likes! This is the most I've ever gotten! also the replies on this are a war zone btw
Batman: can stop a clown from taking over a city
Flash:goes back in time and kills every avenger when they were a kid, or steal the gauntlet and snaps the mcu away
jetli 123975 Well, too bad the flash can’t wield the gauntlet or even come in contact with the stones, or control time travel as easily as Strange.
@@pimppengu7645 flash can literally manipulate time or create another flashpoint,plus he can just take the gauntlet from thanos since thanos will be caught by surprise because flash is faster than lightspeed
@@jetli-tc3io what timeline? you said it like avengers cant travel in time Kappa.
Is there any way to watch the video where you guys made fun of Screenrant’s Avengers vs Justice League video?
Marvel- We are more powerful and better
DC- We are gods and we can destroy you all
John Wick- Where's my Dog ??
Stage empty
john wick vs dc and marvel
Lmao John wick would kick their ass in one miniute
@@fractured4176 no john wick would murder them in 20 seconds then spend the rest of the time looking for his dog
Mr exotic goldie haha
Even the living trivunal and the spectre cant beat john wick.
For the infinity War Avengers, Wanda destroyed a FREAKING INFINITY STONE! She could definitely help out
Did we not make it clear that she’s not even close to being fast enough I took her minutes to channel enough energy to destroy the infinity stone get out of here with that
Key Issues it took a while for her to overcome an Infinity Stone, yes, but she can still use her powers faster than that, watch how long it takes her to charge up her powers
Show me one time she reacted to a supersonic attack let alone a massively hypersonic attack
Key Issues fine, but she could at least take out Cyborg, Aquaman, and/or Batman
@@KeyIssues She reacted to Crossbones' explosion, something calced at supersonic+ speed. You're seriously lowballing the MCU team and highballing the DCEU.
Vision was downplayed here big time. How could his fight with Corvus Glaive be considered when it started with Corvus stabbing him through the back with a magic spear?
Seriously, that was dumb as hell. If he hadn’t been stabbed he would have easily beat him.
Yeah dude
Init vision can make he’s body go through objects and make attacks go through him
@@X3VisionZz the spear was preventing him from doing that.
Thane Krios same with scarlet witch but she was too busy protecting vision
Let’s be honest Superman and Wonder Woman alone can defeat all the Avengers, Flash can just phase into their hearts and rip it out....enough said...
I would say Superman, Aquaman, and WonderWoman.
Bruh. Flash solos.
You’re forgetting the fact that scarlet witch and vision
@@Scaroth1979 Scarlett Witch can’t stop Te Flash, he’s way faster than she can handle
Flash : I can rip your hearts out
Wanda :with what?
Flash:my hands?
Wanda :what hands
The moment I hear “Batman can dodge bullets” I’m out lol
Same..
Yeah, going from just the movies, batman was moving too fast for them to hit him, that is NOT the same as dodging. Wonder Woman can dodge bullets.
He can he have
PhantomYokes
batman:(CAN DODGE BULLETS)
STEVE ROGERS: AM I JOKE TO YOU I FIGHT ONE OF THE BLACK ORDERS
PhantomYokes ...💀
You guys didnt even... scarlet witch man.
Mind control
Hold her own against thanos
Telekinetic
👏👏
You forgetting the part where they mentioned Wonder Woman, Superman, and Flash's speed? They literally said in a pure fight, ignoring speed, MCU would win, but because WW and Supes are both powerful AND fast, unlike Thor or Scarlet Witch, then it's basically no contest. Scarlet needs to cast her spells, but when they notice her as a threat, any of the 3 could blitz her easily. Thanos is strong, but he's not fast and thats why Scarlet almost beat him, he couldn't dodge or return a staggering attack, any of the DCEU 3 could do that though.
Alex this came out before endgame👏
Lmao superman has beated darkseid alone which is more powerful than thanos
@@alby1464 oh yeah hey remember when. He died doing that???
@@alby1464 oh shoot nvm that big boy from Batman v superman want darkseid
Come on vision would destroy Aquaman. And Wanda has near reality stone level ability.
Poizin Rath yea they slept on vision so hard jus cuz he got surprised attacked by Corvus. If he didn’t get hit by that glave, he is damn near unstoppable.
Thank you
But it's the mind stone
Vision would get rekt by martian manhunter and Wanda would get rekt by shazam
nuff said
-Xsy_ neither of them were in the debate
"Batman is pretty similar to Captain America"
Batman:.
Rich
No super powers
Wears a suit to be op
Smart
Has a Helper (Alfred)
Iron man:
Rich
No super powers
Wears a suit to be op
Smart
Has a helper (jarvis)
*Hmm 🤔 interesting*
But Ironman is a a mechanic he could invent or make anything some type of device to wipe out the justice league
I would say DCEU Batman is not like the Batman from the comics so Captain America wins in just skill.
Nope. Don't see any similarities
Hey dude you said cap why did you use Iron man
Meanwhile Dr. Strange making a Timeloop and thor holding open a star....
Oh no, Superman's biggest weakness, a star.
@@toastitup3482 no, but he can go and get some kryptonine
@@toastitup3482 he can get a red sun superman is affected by that
@@griefwnl7641 You'd have to remind Thor next time he's out star shopping
@@dromerd1420 hmmm well batman can also get electricity 😂😂
Umm didn’t Thor take on the power of a star before stormbreaker? Bruv
Ok and super man can run into a sun.......
What's your point. Thor almost died in that star
@@NolansMovieTalk did that happen in the movies or in the comics
@@subzerog1813 comics. But that is apart of super man's powers. He gets stronger depending on the sun
@@subzerog1813 also when super man was hit by the nuke in batman v super man, super man gets close to the sun then heals himself
Stormbreaker doesn't have the magic attached to it. Thor losing it does not cost him his powers as shown because Thor went almost all of Ragnarok without his hammer or axe and still had his powers. Please watch the movies before you debate about them.
Yeah they just love talking about OP the Justice league is
Well, to be fair, Superman is the definition of OP without kryptonite. Honestly though, I think Thor, even without his weapon is a match for durability and almost a match for strength. Sups is much faster, but I don't think that's enough to take Thor out quickly enough to beat all of them.
Honestly I think their assessment was pretty good, if the JL recognized the threat Dr. Strange was they would probably win, if not it's not really even a match. Although I think they under estimate how much trouble Sups would have taking out Thor, and, although Ironman, himself, is no match for Superman's speed, his computer is, you don't have to be as fast as him if you know where he's going to be. Ironman may not have the punch to hurt Superman, but he would just need enough to slow him down long enough for Stormbreaker to hit him, which I think he could do. But then you are not considering Wonder Woman although her lack of flight would limit her ability to intervene much. Then there is cyborg, sure, if given the opportunity he could probably hack Ironman's armor, but it's not likely he would really have that opportunity, there is no clear input port into the armor, unlike warmachine's wich can actually be radio controlled, so Cyborg could hack that easy enough, but I don't think that would really influence the outcome that much.
MCU 3 Cap would be a match for JL Aquaman, and they definitely underestimate Spiderman to be honest, he's probably close to as strong and durable as Aquaman and is faster. Although he dose severely lack combat experience so Aquaman would probably still take him, just not in the off-hand manner suggested in the video.
Ultimately though, despite these disagreements I have I think their final assessment is pretty good, 8 out of 10 for JL, assuming they recognize Strange's threat level.
@@jakeand9020 and that's fine. The outcome isn't the only thing that matters in versus. You have to honour the characters, use actual evidence with proof via statements or feats. Otherwise you're just spreading false information.
@@jakewilson1511 Ok, as far as Sup vs Thor. In the fight Thor apparently "lost" to the Hulk he got a bloody lip. That's the most hurt he's been despite being hit by pretty much everything the MCU has to offer. Without kryptonite Sups was only hurt by Doomsday, even fighting Zod he did not appear to be hurt at all, so I'd say durability is about even. For strength, there is not a lot to go off, Thor is a match for Hulk strength wise, and aside from the newspaper article, actual shown feats for Superman would put him on par with them, tossing vehicles crashing through buildings etc, nothing really seemed to pose any real trouble except another super-strength being. So by lack of feats I'm guessing about equal. Thor can travel fast with the byfrost but otherwise has never gone supersonic, while Sups is shown to go nearly the speed of light in the JL fight. So, Sups is faster.
For Spiderman, the building falling on him didn't hurt him, and he was able to lift it once he stopped panicking and actually tried. He's able to move fast enough for bullets so he's not been shot. Aquaman has was stunned by Stepenwolf's back-hand that sent him crashing into a wall, but not actually hurt, and in his solo movie he is shot repeatedly with normal weapons to no notable effect, but is not shown to be fast enough to avoid being shot, and the grenade definitely slowed him down a bit. So Spiderman might have an edge there since he had a building fall on him without doing more than knock him down where similar impacts have at least dazed Aquaman.
What else, Wonder Woman has not been shown to be able to fly other than the nonsensical scene at the end if her movie where she flew away, but apparently she forgot how to again by the time of Justice League. For durability she's right there with the rest as the only time she's been hit hard enough to even stun her was Sup's flying headbutt. Her strength is not really shown too much, though I don't recall her throwing around any vehicles other than when she hit god mode from Ares lightening attack (why would you use lightening against the daughter if Zeus?)
What else am I missing?
@@jakeand9020 calm child. All i did was state that Thor doesn't lose his powers when he loses the axe. They were spreading false information and i edited it. Simple.
And Batman wasn’t dodging any bullets he was out running there aim
“He can’t rewind something if he’s dead”
Dormammu I’ve come to bargain
Yeah but he sets the loop before he dies? Good point though
@@tamatirichards4822 yep, he can put spells on the time stone as contingencies
@@Nadie47 well let’s say they meet out of the blue, like these characters meet for the first time not being aware of each other, what’s strange gonna do in a split second of flash running behind him and snapping his neck. Let’s not forget that flash can manipulate time aswell, what’s gonna stop him from going back a few seconds and snapping his neck before strange can cast a spell that loops time….
@@Nadie47 Remember they ain’t even aware of each other so this “doramamu I hav a bargain” creates a pointless argument since strange was aware of his existence and potential power, how’s he supposed know flash is faster than the speed of light?
@A random space bean with internet access. remember this isn’t comic book doctor strange this is movie doctor strange, he is less developed in the movies then his comic book self, which means he doesn’t look forward into the future every-second of the day bc if he did, infinity war wouldn’t have happened and we wouldn’t have endgame, your problem is the fact that your comparing movie characters to comic characters
I feel like this conversation is designed to trigger me
@Star Wars Fan well, they are wrong, and kinda biased. They tremendously underestimated Thor, Wanda, Vision and many others...
@Star Wars Fan Vision got back-stabbed when he was being soft and trying to say goodbye to his loved one, he got stabbed by a magical and a very powerful Glaive, and he was injured the entire movie because of it... It is not a reason to bash him and say he's weak, when he's not. He can take on Superman and arguably win (Superman's punches will be absorbed by the Vibranium, and supes has a weakness against magic, and vision has a frikkin infinity stone imbedded in his forehead... One blast and Superman is dead). Wanda literally made Thanos suffer, she literally kept up with him in a fight not letting him touch her once. She can take on Wonder woman without much problems, she can just mind control her to kill the other JL members or just do the same thing to her as Thanos... Thor is a goddamn Asgardian God! He literally wields the strongest weapon in the Universe, has more than a thousand years of battle experience fighting every kind of being throughout the nine realms and beyond. He can literally control the weather, he was durable enough to take the full force of a neutron star hours after being beat up with the power stone, get his head burned by the power stone (which is a planetary attack, cuz if the power stone touches the surface of a planet, it and the it's civilisation will get destroyed), and he did that for 47 seconds, which is basically tanking the strongest nuke ever created (tsar bomba) every seconds for 47 seconds... While supes died from a single nuke....
And please don't start whining about Thor's speed. Thor literally took on Imir (an asgardian) who forced the dwarves to make him a sword that breaks the fabric of reality, which gave him the ability to teleport. Thor was able to keep up with him while he was teleporting and give him a hell of a fight, eventually frying him to a crisp with his lightning! And that was pre-awakened Thor! Now Thor is awakened and is way stronger, he has stormbreaker which gives him the control over the Bifrost. He can travel anywhere he wants in the Universe in seconds using the Bifrost. Hell, even without it he can fly as fast if not faster than supes... Using his own flight ability speed and Stormbreaker's and that's guaranteed lightspeed...
@@saleem2724 If they didn't have have a movie to make, Vision would have reached into Thanos chest, partial faze and kill him or pulled his heart out and kicked it into the Forrest. Movie over.
They had like the one character with a specific phase blocking weapon ambush him. Otherwise no one can touch him. And he can become super dense in the stratosphere and hit like an asteroid on someone, how he defeated Count Nefaria Supreme.
Superman can't hit this guy and he can partial faze all day.
And Hulk super crazy would kick his ass as well. We've seen Superman get trashed by way less strong characters.
And sure bring in Shazam family. cap Marvel will destroy them all in 10 minutes. She's way too strong.
Cap v Batman is a good fight, but Cap is superpowered, so Batman would have to be way more flawless. But the speed would get some power hits in that would ruin him.
Don't even mention Scarlet Witch and reality chaos magic. Or there is not even the beginning of a debate.
Even Thor could probably take Superman. There are thorough debates on TH-cam just on that.
@Star Wars Fan no, but Thor is close to it... Flash won't do shit to anyone, he's a human. He'd break his hand trying to punch Vision, Thor, Hulk, Iron Man, Captain Marvel, Worthy cap etc. Superman is the only speedy threat, and wonder woman isn't near the speed of light, and Thor is like as fast as her if not faster. You can't compare the speed of a demigoddess and a straight up Asgardian God, especially if that God has unlocked his full potential, wonder woman would be his chewing toy. Superman will cause trouble obviously, but only cuz of his speed. His strength isn't as great as Thor's, same with durability, versatility (ma dude can literally control the weather), experience etc. And supes is faster than Thor and I know that, but not much faster. Thor's reaction was always super fast, now that he's awakened, it became much faster, and now he also has Stormbreaker which increases his everything, which means he is now EXTREMELY fast like he never was before, and undoubtedly faster than WW. I'm not sure if he's as fast as supes (prolly not), but supes's speed blitzes won't be that effective cuz of Thor's durability... He literally tanked the full force of a Neutron star for 47 seconds after being hours after being slaughtered with the power stone. The amount of energy from that is WAY WAY beyond the amount of energy Supes will produce from his speed blitzes. So it ain't much of a problem. And Vision is as fast as pre-awakened Thor. Fast, but not enough. But he has a Vibranium body, meaning no speed blitz would penetrate the Vibranium, in fact, the Vibranium would just absorb the attacks and redirect them and send superman/Flash flying backwards (because to move at the speed of light you need energy, and that energy would he redirected on them, hurting them. But flash would just break his hand and die)
@Star Wars Fan bruv, I'm not biased. I'm saying the truth and I'm giving you logic. Superman's speed blitz attempts won't work on Thor, Vision, Hulk, Captain Marvel, worthy cap, Iron Man, Iron Spider etc. Same with Diana, because of the upgrade Thor achieved, she isn't able to speed blitz him. Flash would just break his hand trying to punch them. It's common sense. You don't give any reasons as to why the JL would win.
Dr strange wasnt using an infinite stone fighting thanos
Vinx Honestly yeah he was he used the time stone
@@gabe_g1752 don't think so. Just mystic art magic and dimensions
@@gabe_g1752 are you high? Blind? Or both? Prolly both
Dr. Strange took on Thanos and gave him a run for his money when Thanos had 4 infinity stones, while Dr. Strange didn't..... Why is this even a debate? Like, all he needs is beings like Thor, Hulk, Captain Marvel etc. While he traps everyone from the justice league in the mirror dimension, the same can be said for Scarlet Witch, she could just mind control Supes and Wonder woman to take out the rest of the league with some backup and that's it
True, but he used the time stone to experience the fight millions of times before the actual fight
The problem that has always existed when comparing these two universes is that the DC universe is primarily a fantasy based reality. By this I mean the abilities that most of the characters possess are just so far beyond what we could consider realistic and the only beings that can compare to them are each other. The Marvel universe, while having some fantastical elements, tries to base itself a lot closer to what we think of as reality. Hence we get Super Soldiers from drugs, Super scienced armored billionaires, superbly trained spies and “gods” that are actually aliens. The MCU tries to justify a lot if it’s characters abilities. The DCEU doesn’t feel the need to do this and thus a lot of it’s members scale way beyond what can think as realistic.
While certain 1v1 matchups are fun to think about the overall power level of the DC universe dwarfs Marvels.
We neeeed an update. Captain marvel just existing and when scarlet witch almost completely ripped apart thanos are key parts in the fight
Captain marvel would easily destroy them all
THANOS’s gauntlet in one of the avengers hands could infinitely destroy the justice league
Charlie the Champion captain marvel was one shotted by a power stone. Superman destroyed steppenwolf, Zeus, Artemis, ares all struggled with him
Diss Gods prophet The power stone wipes out planets I don’t see Steppenwolf doing that
ZnK Beckkodi Superman is confirmed planetary by Bruce in JL. Lmao Superman alone can destroy a planet lol
Diss Gods prophet And so could some of the avengers l
Doctor strange would literally put everyone in the mirror dimension and then just wait until they give up or until Doctor strange dies of old age.
Yeah they say that at the end of the video, the verdict was that if Superman reacts fast enough to beat strange before he can do anything justice league wins since he’s kinda the only one who can possible stop Superman
@@rook_xs6903 Wanda while at full power, the Scarlett witch from the end of Wanda vision would easily take on anyone
@@voyd6676 ... no.
Wanda is a glass chin, superman would rip her head off so fast before scarlet witch even lifts her hands up
@@voyd6676 to be fair tho superman still bliztes her
Honestly if you’re going off the movies then flash is automatically rather useless. He of course has speed on his side but he has no knowledge of fighting in the movie nor any experience. This is shown multiple times in the justice league.
True but it's to early to call who wins wait for more jl movies
Flash fought in the end of JL decimating various Parademons
@@TheBlond49
Yeah, but those things were cyborg inhuman fodder like what Avengers fought. I don't think Flash would do that to regular humans.
@@TheBlond49 Parademons couldn't hold the jock of most enemies the Avengers have fough
TOXIC SQUIRELS clearly you don’t remember him on “bug duty”. He could literally do that and zap black widow, Hawkeye, quicksilver etc. lol. Yes he’s inexperienced but his ability is just that absurd. Just being “fast” isn’t even close to describing flash’s true abilities. Anyways have a great day
Wait till more members of the justice league get added such as green lantern Martian man hunter, Shazam
This needs an update. Everybody talks about bringing Captain Marvel, Dr.Strange and all, let's just bring the Shazam family then.
that kid?? haha. nice joke
Thor turns him into a kid
Yeah that kid who went toe to toe with superman and more is powerful than thor himself.
Rounak Mahato yea, that kid who is on the same level as Superman
@@rounakmahato67866 You mean those kids that all have Superman-like powers. They all can fly at the end which means they all have super-strentgh and super-speed too, not to mention lightning.
Can u talk about Thor being basically dead TWICE and resurrected by lightning??
Then let's talk about superman being resurrected by the sun (BVS)
He was not resurrected by lightning. He is immortal. He came back by himself
@@benjaminlimsowtin1633 Thor just Bifrosts Superman away from the sun... And takes care of him there... Easy
@Pratham what's wrong with being a DC fan?
@Salim Abbesi there's 2 HUGE flaws in your theory tho, first, how would Thor know the Sun is one of Superman's strengths? and second, even IF Thor knew about that, Supes could just fly away at WARP speed from wherever the Bifrost would try to open up on him...not so easy
Actually when superman calls for Thor's hammer and gets it out of the hands of Thor iron man would just say "ok, that's a wrap, sorry shakespeare superman just stole your thunder"
Of course, there is no way Supes would know to even try to take the hammer like that
This superman is a murderous lifeless physocpath, there's no way DCEU version worthy lol.
@@bluefiremarkii how ..?? Whom did he killed someone who was about to destroy the entire Earth..?? Superman is any day worthy to pick up Thor's Hammer period..🤘
@@arjunprathap9101 yes. If he was the comics version. The DCEU version has not. He has sacrificed nothing, resorts to violence, and has shown little empathy to others but his own parents.
If it was superman, totally. He'd lift it. But DCEU superman ain't superman.
@@arjunprathap9101 no he's not worthy at all. He is not mentally tough. Kill his gf and he destroyed the earth
I think vision was underappreciated in this, corvus glaives weapon is able to specifically counter the visions vibranium body, without that I think the vision would've been able to defeat app of the black order
Avengers: We use teamwork to defeat our enemies
Justice League: superman carry us ;_; pls i die
Over a thousand languages in this world and you chose to speak FACTS!!!🤣🤣🤣
@Fire storm Gamer you really said captain America can beat WM yeah gtfoh.
@Fire storm Gamer lol how about the fact that Superman is stronger and more durable than Thor. Smh 🤦🏾♂️, Superman>>Thor. WW>>>>>>>Cap. Tony>>Cyborg. Hulk>>Arthur
Loki Odinson super man can’t take hits from stormbreaker or even mjolnir as both are magical. He has no special resistances to magic in general. Plus, super man would definitely get caught off guard by Thor hardly being affected by the heat vision cause he took the full heat of a neutron star for about a minute
@@wyattben123 lol Superman can easily take a hit from Mjolnir, it didn’t even hurt Tony, Thor is physically weaker than Superman,he’s less durable, slower and less versatile. He loses 10/10
Thor without stormbraker is still the most durable character in the movies
Thies wrong
Kevin The teletubie he is still right can’t lie but he is weaker as a result
Jack Sykkes DID YOU FORGET ABOUT THE CHARACTERS IN S TIER LIKE CELESTIAL PETER QUILL HES A FRIKN GOD FOR CRYING OUT LOUD AND THERES ALSO CHARACTERS LIKE DORMAMMU TOO SO 😐
Kevin The teletubie did you watch guardians two once ego is dead peter is no longer a celestial. And this is avenger vs justice league so what are you on about
Jack Sykkes There’s Superman he’s more durable
"Doctor Strange can't rewind something if he's dead"
LMFAO
The loop, I don't think you've seen Doctor Strange and how did he survive when he bargained
@@dantemeza1 Strange can't make a loop when the enemy kills him before he can even react, though. When he 'fought' Dormammu, he had that loop ready before confronting him.
He lifted and moved tectonic plates in an article on the wall in man of steel.
Sorry it was in BvS
@@Pauline__ Stupid idiot, watch dr strange. Strange is so smart that he already opens the eye of agamotto before the fight to start the loop
Flash comes
Scarlet witch: Are u quicksilver, how do u survive
Flash:🗿
Aquaman strength is only legit in water its a completely different story if hes out of water
Ur a fucking idiot
Lol u most not follow comics
@@The-Capitalist why should we if it's not about comics. shit in the movies (including the protagonist's powers), and this video is based on the movies, not the comics so shhh
@@lucasisaacson3241 the video itself said that the feats are only based FROM the movies, try again when your iq rises past 20
Dio Brando even in the movies Shazam can demolish the weak as avenger and aqua man
Doctor Strange scarred Dormamu
DORMAMU HAS LEFT THE CHAT
THANOS HAS JOINED THE CHAT
Didn't scare dormamu
Here is what I think. If Dr. Strange saw how extremely powerful they are and how fast they are he could stop time and kill them all. He is definitely able to with how strong his magic is
Then why didn’t he do it to stop thanos. He clearly can’t or he would’ve done it.
Daniel Gonzalez Thanos had 4 infinity stones
The flash manipulate time
But then superman and Wonder Woman would stop him before doing that
Dude flash can literally go to the future to see what happens, and find doctor strange In just 1 sec,
Ok but I don’t see how anyone could take down a speedster. Realistically. Combining the speed of flash, Superman, and Wonder Woman, they could just smack everybody before they can move. Like what can you do? They move faster than you can think.
Heck - The JLA moves faster than they can think themselves! Yeah!
(Ha ha ha)
Exactly Superman by himself could take them all out if he tried. He can move at light speed, so that's faster than the human mind can even blink. He could chop off every avenger's head and call it a day.
Are we talking travel speed or reaction speed because travel speed, if we give Thor storm breaker, he is able to travel through entire realms in seconds, light takes 500 seconds to travel from the sun to earth so the bifrost is massively faster than light, again with reaction speed in ragnarok Thor had a fight with hela INSIDE the bifrost making his reaction speed very similar to his travel speed feat
@@joeytay5681 Yes. The bifrost is MFTL. Plus, the Snyder Cut isn't even cannon so Flash's feat of going FTL doesn't even factor.
@@aadritmedhi5741 prove this, I have not anything to suggest other wise
If u r considering thor without his stormbreaker i guess u should consider wonder woman without her sword and batman without his gadgets.
Why? Thor has been with and without Stormbreaker in the films. Wonder Woman has only been without her sword once and she was at her most powerful lol. We've never seen Batman without his gadgets.
@@KeyIssues remember thor's mastery of lightning well he could just one shot one of the JL members, one person to another, remember the "biggest lightning blast in the history of lightning" he can use that against the JL members
Everyone in the JL is faster than lightning besides Batman and Cyborg.
@@nomorechance4754 you think lightning will hurt Superman?
@@royalpain8996 you know that superman's weakness is magic so thor's lightning is magic so...
Hulk or Thor claps cyborg.
Edit: or Ironman with his nanotech suit.
Dakota True Cyborg!!...Dude wth
Cyborg has the most advanced tech to the point opening portals someting only infinity stone can do in the mcu he can even hack tonys tech with ease
It’s pointless telling them coz mcu is based on facts....DC is based on ethics. Let them keep yammering about their precious infinity stones 😅
@@solomonkitungu6525 even with the infinity stones who ever uses them just dies lol. And even with the snap it wont affect the justice league cause their not from that dimension cause they dont exist in that dimension
@@miguelordonez3323 thats comic canon and again if they are on the marvel universe they would still die even if they are from another uni. Thats not how it works
25:13 Dr. Strange didn’t use the stone! It was 4 stones vs just Strange!
Even with Snyder cut and endgame and wamdavision considered Superman and flash would still solo everyone on mcu lol. Yes if Wanda manages to cast her spells she could kill supes and the others but she is too slow she would get speedblitzed before she can even think about casting anything. Same with dr strange
Batman has more combat training lol cap is a superhuman why tf do ppl forget that he's not just human
Not to mention all of his combat training in war
No way Batman has more combat training than Cap. Right??
@@OdintheGermanShepherd cap has army training. Batman has world class martial arts skills.
@@OdintheGermanShepherd however more training doesn’t mean you win. A random dude off the street could take out a MMA fighter, depends a lot on circumstances but the MMA fighter should and would win nearly every time.
@@harrisonbaylor1432 I don’t know it depends really since this justice league batman can be compared to peak human fitness which could make it a little more fair. They’re both incredibly smart but Batman has the advantage in overall smartness and technology. I think Batman would even know not to fight captain America head on which would make him act more stealthy
The synder cut and endgame completely change this and we need a updated version
I totally agree I still think dc is winning tho they really don’t have anyone to counter Superman
YES
@@hugonavarro705 carol Danverse could definitely stand with superman
@@king_muskrat9576 as much as that makes me gag, you're right.
@@king_muskrat9576 Superman statues
Simple, Dr Strange goes into the future to see 10 million ways the fight could go, and chooses the one where the avengers win.
Right
Colin Dionne flash is faster than the speed of light. By the time strange is looking at the possibilities, flash will be digging his grave
But flash can kill him when he’s sitting there looking at the future
Colin Dionne but in he movie he was shown sitting down looking at all possible futures....remember?
The advengers will win 1000%
Good discussion. 😃👍
Talking with some details points.
Considering each heroes abilities and powers.
I support DC.
DC is older than Marvel.
Respect to DC
(My childhood memories goes with them GREAT ).😃😃😃
They didn’t even bring up vision and Wanda, 2 of the MCUs most powerful hero’s
Dipak Roy yes he is
Because they said original avengers MCU and that only has cap, iron man, Thor, hulk, hawkeye, and black widow Vs justice league DCEU
Vision and scarlet witch aren’t in original avengers
@@zekefaison7936 did you miss the part were they covered the avengers in the other movies
Lmao they did. Watch the video, also they said they would got killed immediately, Justice leave is too fast for them.
Were forgetting the most powerful weapon aside from the Infinity Gauntlet. Scarlett Johansson's wonderful ass. All she has to do is wiggle it at Superman and he'll stop dead in his tracks.
Your sick and immature
Wow just wow
that’s.....um
Pls be more mature and humane, this is disgusting, perverted and ridicules
They acted like scarlet witch doesn’t exist lmao
this was made in 2018 before endgame even happened
This was pre Wanda vision now avengers win
@@geckwo even then she destroyed an infinity stone while holding back thanos w 5 stone, and I kno thanos was holding back but he still had to try a decent bit
@@zavierrobertson5892 And Wanda also threw one of those wheel things previously in the movie which makes her even more powerful.
Doesn't matter since Wanda is psychotic. She couldn't beat Thanos, so she'd be toast by Wonder Woman. Justice League is several times more powerful than the Avengers. Maybe if she could control her powers, but she can't really yet. Two strong warriors took out Vision and Scarlett Witch twice and those two wouldn't have lasted 10 seconds against Wonder Woman. She's the most deadly on the team really, as she doesn't have a weakness.
Superman > avengers
DCEU can't defeat Rotten tomatoes but the MCU can so...
Well, Tomatoes are quite powerful creatures
Damm he is a guenis
Dipak Roy r/whooosh
tyrel ramnarine r/whooosh
You didn’t consider that justice league has little teamwork but avengers can work together really well
You're funny who would you like me to list the people that the justice league came together to take down thayhave defeated the gods of Olympus before also the new gods of The universe so stop it
Tom Barrett back to you:avengers and age of ultron.they pull of some great combos and ode each other’s weapon very well.On the other hand:justice league just take turns punching stepping wolf
Victory Mateen Is MOVIE not COMIC so suck it.Avengers almost killed thanos:a titan in MOVIE
Tom Barrett in my opinion infinity war had the best team work:which is the battle of planet titans.If is not for star lord they would have won it there
@@vernita4thewin343 The justice League didn't fight the Gods of Olympus in the dceu, wonder woman did
Dr. Strange would just put them in a time loop til they surrender
LOL, I honestly think he'll have to
Really? So why didn't he do that to Thanos?
@@quistian69 Seeing how Thanos broke through the Mirror Dimension there is a possibility Thanos could have overcome the loop, plus Strange was trying to keep it protected. Also just because he didn't used it on Thanos doesn't mean he didn't easily do it to Dormmanu.
It wouldn't work. The Justice League wouldn't remember any of the loops.
@@yfz01 well then he could see every future and do the ones where he would win or still do a time loop doing different things until he won
Bro that segment about Batman having more experience than Cap is such a huge steaming pile of bs. He's been fighting for over half a decade. He first fought in an actual war, then against villains, and then another war. What does batman do? Fight with his gadgets once he became a billionaire. And the villains he fights aren't even anything special compared to the enemies cap alwayd faces.
When Odin died in Thor ragnarok he said to Thor that he is stronger than him and the thing is Odin is a elder god
My mom says I’m handsome that doesn’t mean it’s true
Bluegill 013 LMAAOOOOOOO
First odin maybe die but sometime he can comeback becauese Thor still prays to him
Second Thor will stronger than odin BUT NOT FOR NOW but i know he will
And Third even in this form i think Thor can handle superman DCEU and he has 65% to wins this fight
Thanis oyee Superman solos Thor easily. He can go 5% light speed Thor has never gone that fast. And Superman is planetary strength
@@namaj3122 " Thor never gone that fast"
Dont made it up dude
Do you think bifrost isnt faster than supes?. Thats stupid Lmao
Vision should have been considered more, he literally can’t be hit unless a special tools are used
Also what if Doctor Strange could warp Superman to another planet where the sun couldn’t help him we know from endgame he can
Also I know this was before endgame
well remember its a random encounter so he wouldn't know about Supermans relationship to the sun.
Travelle framhein he could use the time stone to figure it out by going through alternate realities
Are we not factoring black panthers ability’s and the ability to re use the force he’s hit with back at them
vision is basically martian manhunter and martian is vision with better training and more powers. plus doctor strange might be able to do that but if he does it to someone else they would remain the same and would have just as much fight damage
and scarlet witch is dismissed too easily as well
No talk of Captain Marvel? She can travel the whole universe in mere seconds
He's not part of the Justice League.
@@hunterhenryk He who LOL? I was talking about Captain Marvel who's female and helped the Avengers in End Game. Sooo what are you talking about? :)
@@infxted9087 technically there are two Captain Marvels ... The DC version of Captain Marvel now goes by the name Shazam. The Marvel version of Captain Marvel used to be ms Marvel.
C May
Lmao, if you’re going to be condescending you should at least know what you’re talking about.
There is a ‘Captain Marvel’ in both DC and Marvel.
C May well she’s a feminist so she don’t count
Thor can beat Wonder Woman easily with lightning only
Wonder Woman can move at least hypersonic speed level
and natural lightning itself is way faster than hypersonic
and hypersonic doesn't even come close to that.
+Thor's lightning is magical, so you can at least
multiply the speed of natural lightning times 2 which is far beyond the speed of
Wonder Woman and higher than high hypersonic speed. This is just only lightning strike speed not travel speed.
WW can bend,channel,ride ,touch ,absorb and manipulate lightning
Her father Zeus owns it
@@REDBERRET1916 on point!!!
Lets also not forget what WW's bracelets can do and what more she can do when she removes them from her wrists.
@@REDBERRET1916 Thor's lightning is different. And he can still use his strength
@@tenet748 WW can just use her strength too lol and your statement about Thor's lightning Is literally made up
They didn't even consider Scarlet witchs ability she destroyed an infinity stone while holding back thanos with five stones at the same time, vision holds an infinity stone, thor overpowered thanos with all six infinity stones, dr strange is just a beast and he has mastered an infinity stone, shuri's technology and ingeniousness is out of this world and tony stark can call an iron legion whenever he wants, if tony perfected his iron legion to the state of power that the mark 50 has and the power pim particles provide would give the advantage over the dceu and what about every other avenger and guardians there is in the mcu plus captain marvel
it was completely biased
Austin Hayden this was made before Endgame was released, Thor caught Thanos off guard and that’s why he overpowered the gauntlet. Thanos knew that he was going to have to use the time stone so he wasn’t trying when he was trying to get to vision. Doctor Strange might have been able to hold back Thanos but was still over powered. You are assuming that iron man has perfected the iron legion but the iron legion was blown up in iron man three. This was infinity war and guess what, Ant man wasn’t in that movie. You probably didn’t even finish the video and you are a marvel fanboy who isn’t seen a single DC movie.
superman is much faster than her she would not be a factor really
@@thindac9598 Tony had back up suits, he's Tony Stark. Like Pepper said she couldn't make him stop.
Dr. Strange , Scarlet Witch and Captain Marvel Alone would be enough to be Game Changers
Thor's Storm Breaker Tank the Full Force of The Infinity Gauntlet
IceColdDarkElf RPG The directors of Infinity War states that their just caught him off guard and Thanos didn’t know the power of what was coming at him. Storm breaker can’t actually tank the Gauntlet. I also never said that DC would win, it’s just that the video wasn’t biased. They also had to lowball Superman’s strongest feat. I feel like marvel would win because of their numbers and powerful heroes.
King KRUSTY I don’t know why they gave him light speed. The movie version is fast, but not that fast. Tv version of flash has better feats.
“Without storm breaker Thor is just Thor”
Me: Has flashbacks to Ragnarok
Without storm breaker he is forced into a physical fight with Super Man which is extremely dangerous
@@archangel7772 lets not forget that Thor withstood a neutron star's full blast for about a minute, after basically shifting a planetary scale forge, with nothing but a space ship and his legs, all pre storm breaker, a nuclear missile took out superman and he needed the sun to heal him up, and a nuclear missile is 0.000000001% or even less of a neutron star, which thor withstood for a minute as opposed to an instant explosion for superman. His forge shifting feat is at least comparable to the tectonic plate feat, and this all lightning mastery (awakened) thor without storm breaker. I think it's safe to say that Thor is way way way more durable and at least as strong as superman without stormbreaker, and way stronger with stormbreaker, that speed is really the only issue, if not Thor takes care of the justice league
They also downplayed Supermans weakness to magic, which plays much more of a factor than they're making it seem,superman who is clearly stronger than wonder woman has been taken down by her on some occasions, although I know that only movies were taken into consideration
thor might survive, doesnt mean he wins though. he's still slow, that's his weakness. if he can hit superman with stormbreak then i give it to thor, but back again to speed. this is the reason why they always consider speed when fighting because it is a feat to be taken seriously.
@@archmad but you have to realize that it's not like they use their speed at all times, like wonder woman was still able to headbutt superman, I know she's still faster than Thor, but Thor will definitely be able to hit him, Strange will definitely be able to access the time stone, the only way these guys start using their speed immediately is if they already know what each avenger is capable of
What happens when thor takes stormbreaker and summons the bifrost, takes superman to a non yellow sun planet? Good night Irene.
lmao big brain
Maybe Supes can just fly back
his power won't just vanish because there is no yellow sun around he still has some store in his body in that case,but it might take a long time for him to come back anyway so I guess this is a pretty useful way to take Supes out temporally
Thor would have to know about that weakness, I doubt he could deduce something like that and supes could still fly to a sun usually, he can have power stored tho idk if dceu can
@@thedragon1363 If they were in the same universe and Krypton was within the 9 realms, Thor would likely know the weaknesses of the Kryptonians. He likely would have fought them before since he fights all of the realms inhabitants when he gets bored. Thor is a lot smarter than people give him credit for even in the MCU. These guys even mention it in another one of their videos. They also talk like Cap would be the one fighting Batman when it would likely be Iron-man v Batman.
@@numbersdontlie5954 krypton wouldn’t be in the 9 realms for one and kryptonians wouldn’t be a challenge on their planet and iron man would do better fighting someone stronger maybe trying to not die to Superman
This is like explaining calculus, algebra and geometry to preschoolers...
The bias is real on this channel. 😂
J Jw ikr
J Jw facts lol
Fr fucking milnior traveled to the edge of the galaxy and back in less than a minute tell me and im guessing stormbreaker is abt that so therefore thor woth stormbreaker could prolly travel way faster than the speed of light
@@kalewilson7756 I love marvel and dc but the flash said in the JLU animated series he can think and move at the speed of light. Yes, Thor may have light speed but if he can't react then that's no help. That like Sloth from Full Metal Alchemist where he was the fastest, but when he stopped moving he was slow.
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Everything that chiggers me
The power stone is not the most powerful
Scarlett Witch doesn't exist here
Neither does vision
Flash doesn't hit that hard
No one has any stones except strange and vision so shhh
flash does and he can get momentum and vibrate his hand into anyones heart
thank you, this video triggers me lol
@@xhen7928 Has DCEU Flash actually done the hand into heart move, I know that arrowverse Flash has been shown to but this is purely DCEU
At the speed of light yes, because no matter how hard you hit it's the speed your fist is going to do the damage
Doctor Strange will look into millions of future possibilities to see that one outcome which the avengers will win ....so boom
Doctor faith?
Theo Eric its movies not comics
money man it was in the movies u absolute spas
flash will only get a knife and cut his hands off before he make a spell...easy...
@@clarkkent8040 exactly