Your videos are awesome I predict your TH-cam channel will get a lot of subscribers. So keep the videos coming. I have been going to scrap yards more then your average person but getting a look from the side of the scrap yards point of view that you show its helpful for understanding how it all works and everyone can get a good fair price. Thanks
Dropc, I'm glad my videos are helpful. I plan on making a lot more, it's all about finding the time. Somedays I wish that's all I had to do because I would make a new one every day! 90% of the time if a customer is upset it is simply because no one took the time to explain the process and why something was bought the way it was. That is why I teach anyone who buys metal for me to take the time and give an explanation to all our customers. We simply put ourselves in our customer's shoes and ask how we would want to be treated? I hope to have more videos soon!
Yet again another informative and light hearted vid. Q on the Rads....i clean copper/allum rads. Are there other types (other metals) and do we still clean them? I think i heard there are brass rads or rads with brass in them?? Thanks for all you do to help newbie scrappers.
You're welcome, Bob! There are many different types. Maybe I will make a video on them in the near future. Off the top of my head, I would say that you should clean any of them that are brass or all copper. You will also see some heat exchangers that are made out of cupro-nickel. I'd have to explain in a video because I don't have enough time at the moment. Until then anytime you scratch the fins and they look like brass or copper go ahead and clean them! Sorry it took so long to respond!
No need to apologize at all. You are a very busy man and we are fortunate that you feel the need to inform more scrappers on things you find important. Cheers...
On old car rads the tanks were brass. You separated the tanks b/c of solder and brass paid less. You won't see many like you did 10 years ago. Make sure you get the steel rebars off also.
So with the raderater the copper pipes go all the way across so why is it considered clean by just cutting off the ends, is it that your just selling that copper as aluminum and they are cool with that so they will call it clean
Dropc, great question! The ends are usually iron. Sometimes they are aluminum, and you can leave them on. Anytime we say dirty in the metal recycling industry we are referring to iron being on non-ferrous materials (copper, brass, aluminum, etc. pretty much anything that doesn't stick to a magnet). This is because of the huge difference in price of non-ferrous and iron materials. We don't want to buy material for $1.00 a pound when one of the byproducts isn't even worth 10 cents. So the price per pound will go down on any material that has iron attached. We don't sell the copper as aluminum. Aluminum copper radiators are their own product, and they base the price off of average copper to aluminum ratio recoveries. Hope I explained that well enough. If not, let me know!
nice explaining video ...but i and most of scrappor i see do clean the ends and take it for #2 copper just an easy extra cut should have try this method to ...pretty sure its better but didnt calculate has you did ...but keep on i like youre video man you realy have a nice scrapyard
Jackpot, that's a great point that I knew someone would bring up. I had plans on covering that in the video, but I just ran out of time and knowing me I probably would have run on talking about it for another 10 minutes! It is a situation dictates issue. If you can't get a yard to pay you more for dirty rads or the reefer ends then it's probably going to be worth cleaning every one. However, if you can find a yard that pays better for them, then it's going to come down to the #2 copper, iron, Al/Cu ratios of each one. It also depends on if you're missing out on other scrap because you're cleaning. I own scrapyards but I still chase neighborhood pickups, I just can't help it! And I'm sure you know that it's first come first serve. If I find some time I'll make a video where I clean them by just cutting the noodles! It's just going to take a while because when you have so many different variations, it's best to do recoveries with as much as possible. The more units of measurements you have and the more coils you use, the better data you'll get. By the way, jackpot digger is an awesome name!
Chop your a/c ends in a band saw. It cuts in 1 direction faster and easier. Don't sell ends for $0.40, take the copper out and sell for $2/lb. If you can't twist it out, take 2 cuts with saw. That 1lb ends was worth $2 and the tin was $0.08. Copper is #2 and tin is shred. Now you don't have to save a truckload. If you want to get sophisticated, go look for a hammer mill in your tin pile (that nobody knows what it is) to shred and separate copper. Double your $ on every skid.
If you take your cleaned metal to a metal processors who specializes in non-ferrous metals you will get a better price. Also take 200 pds of any one type of metal. In Chicago there many of these metal processors. Also they do not like messing around with little loads, their over head is to much. They like dealing with stamping plants that have a predictable amount of type of metal to fill their contracts. If you do clean this type of radiator just don't cut off the noodles. That a X-HD utility knife a run it down the flat aluminum side in the middle of each copper tube several times and then snap it back to release the tube. It take 20 mins to do one and you will end up with 1no. Copper. Bracken metal, did you ever think about attaching a non-ferrous processing plant to one of your scrap yards?
Actually the copper in most Aluminium Copper radiators is No 2 Burnt as it has the solder that is left from the Aluminium Radiators thats how we buy them in Australia
"Is it worth your time?" The most important point of this video and you didn't even address it. How long did it take you to cut those ends off vs the extra money you get for doing it. It doesn't look like it took you very long. A few minutes maybe for $12. Whats that work out to? About $200/hr?
Please upload more! Your channel doesn't beat around the bush! No extra bs: just straight info and some comedic relief! Keep it up!
vFallout, Thank you! I'm trying to get a view more going, this month has been crazy busy so far! I'll get them out as fast as I can!
Your videos are awesome I predict your TH-cam channel will get a lot of subscribers. So keep the videos coming. I have been going to scrap yards more then your average person but getting a look from the side of the scrap yards point of view that you show its helpful for understanding how it all works and everyone can get a good fair price. Thanks
Dropc, I'm glad my videos are helpful. I plan on making a lot more, it's all about finding the time. Somedays I wish that's all I had to do because I would make a new one every day! 90% of the time if a customer is upset it is simply because no one took the time to explain the process and why something was bought the way it was. That is why I teach anyone who buys metal for me to take the time and give an explanation to all our customers. We simply put ourselves in our customer's shoes and ask how we would want to be treated? I hope to have more videos soon!
Nice vid, love all the information.
Thanks Ryan!
Yet again another informative and light hearted vid. Q on the Rads....i clean copper/allum rads. Are there other types (other metals) and do we still clean them? I think i heard there are brass rads or rads with brass in them?? Thanks for all you do to help newbie scrappers.
You're welcome, Bob! There are many different types. Maybe I will make a video on them in the near future. Off the top of my head, I would say that you should clean any of them that are brass or all copper. You will also see some heat exchangers that are made out of cupro-nickel. I'd have to explain in a video because I don't have enough time at the moment. Until then anytime you scratch the fins and they look like brass or copper go ahead and clean them! Sorry it took so long to respond!
No need to apologize at all. You are a very busy man and we are fortunate that you feel the need to inform more scrappers on things you find important. Cheers...
On old car rads the tanks were brass. You separated the tanks b/c of solder and brass paid less. You won't see many like you did 10 years ago. Make sure you get the steel rebars off also.
So with the raderater the copper pipes go all the way across so why is it considered clean by just cutting off the ends, is it that your just selling that copper as aluminum and they are cool with that so they will call it clean
Dropc, great question! The ends are usually iron. Sometimes they are aluminum, and you can leave them on. Anytime we say dirty in the metal recycling industry we are referring to iron being on non-ferrous materials (copper, brass, aluminum, etc. pretty much anything that doesn't stick to a magnet). This is because of the huge difference in price of non-ferrous and iron materials. We don't want to buy material for $1.00 a pound when one of the byproducts isn't even worth 10 cents. So the price per pound will go down on any material that has iron attached. We don't sell the copper as aluminum. Aluminum copper radiators are their own product, and they base the price off of average copper to aluminum ratio recoveries. Hope I explained that well enough. If not, let me know!
Under the catagory of copper aluminum radiator it is clean. A copper aluminum radiator under the catagory of copper is dirty.
nice explaining video ...but i and most of scrappor i see do clean the ends and take it for #2 copper just an easy extra cut should have try this method to ...pretty sure its better but didnt calculate has you did ...but keep on i like youre video man you realy have a nice scrapyard
Jackpot, that's a great point that I knew someone would bring up. I had plans on covering that in the video, but I just ran out of time and knowing me I probably would have run on talking about it for another 10 minutes! It is a situation dictates issue. If you can't get a yard to pay you more for dirty rads or the reefer ends then it's probably going to be worth cleaning every one. However, if you can find a yard that pays better for them, then it's going to come down to the #2 copper, iron, Al/Cu ratios of each one. It also depends on if you're missing out on other scrap because you're cleaning. I own scrapyards but I still chase neighborhood pickups, I just can't help it! And I'm sure you know that it's first come first serve. If I find some time I'll make a video where I clean them by just cutting the noodles! It's just going to take a while because when you have so many different variations, it's best to do recoveries with as much as possible. The more units of measurements you have and the more coils you use, the better data you'll get. By the way, jackpot digger is an awesome name!
Chop your a/c ends in a band saw. It cuts in 1 direction faster and easier. Don't sell ends for $0.40, take the copper out and sell for $2/lb. If you can't twist it out, take 2 cuts with saw. That 1lb ends was worth $2 and the tin was $0.08. Copper is #2 and tin is shred. Now you don't have to save a truckload. If you want to get sophisticated, go look for a hammer mill in your tin pile (that nobody knows what it is) to shred and separate copper. Double your $ on every skid.
They don't add tin to any steel alloy. It's "STEEL"
If you take your cleaned metal to a metal processors who specializes in non-ferrous metals you will get a better price. Also take 200 pds of any one type of metal. In Chicago there many of these metal processors. Also they do not like messing around with little loads, their over head is to much. They like dealing with stamping plants that have a predictable amount of type of metal to fill their contracts. If you do clean this type of radiator just don't cut off the noodles. That a X-HD utility knife a run it down the flat aluminum side in the middle of each copper tube several times and then snap it back to release the tube. It take 20 mins to do one and you will end up with 1no. Copper. Bracken metal, did you ever think about attaching a non-ferrous processing plant to one of your scrap yards?
Actually the copper in most Aluminium Copper radiators is No 2 Burnt as it has the solder that is left from the Aluminium Radiators thats how we buy them in Australia
"Is it worth your time?" The most important point of this video and you didn't even address it. How long did it take you to cut those ends off vs the extra money you get for doing it. It doesn't look like it took you very long. A few minutes maybe for $12. Whats that work out to? About $200/hr?