Apple PULLS The PLUG While Telsa Makes A Flying Car!! 🤯
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- Elon Musk says that Tesla is building a car that will blow people's minds--while the behemoth, Apple, pulls the plug on their autonomous EV plans by ending Project Titan. How different the path of these two companies has been lately!
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What does sora make of this? "Show me a short story of Apple not producing a car".
Could the Roadster also be a submarine? Like the idea of those thrusters helping with emergency breaking. Although, I would be more excited to see a Tesla transit van, or ambulance, or school bus, or box truck, or a workingn on the road, Semi. Wall St. doesn't consider these dreams, of flying cars or fsd and robotaxis, and robots and tunnels, which is why the stock is down again today!
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Even Android Auto is superior to Apple's CarPlay.
Then again Tesla's map data comes from Google, so its probably a bigger focus for Alphabet.
Golly would cold rocket thrusters do anything to the car that might be behind the Roadster. Yep, can we all get serious, please just for a couple of months.
"Yep, can we all get serious, please just for a couple of months."
BOOOOOOOOOOOOORING!
@8:38 _Finished?_ The first thing is that it's *_never_*_ finished._
People keep ponying up the money for a new phone every few years and the *App Store* keeps adding features _according to the buyers' needs_ all the time.
LOL yeah like battery management. I have a 14 but would need to get a 15 to limit charging to 80%. Apple is scrabbling to find new reasons to sell you the next iPhone.
It's a fairly safe bet, to repackage the same thing, and build a few watches, and computers. Apple's future is riding on what Tesla doesn't seem to be able to fully deliver. It's a brilliant move by Apple.
I am waiting for the first Alternative Internet device from Neuralink. And the red pill.
Others, TESLA, in particular have huge first movers advantage over APPLE. Besides, at this point AI is all the rage.
So Tesla has spent years developing the Roadster, which will sell a few thousand. Yes, this is a great investment .... not
Yes, true, they should make a VW Golf instead! Or a Toyota Corolla E-Fool powered.
I want to see that Semi ramped up! And, batteries? I don’t know what the problems are…but the Roadster is NOT it.
The roadster like the CyberTruck makes sense. Because the question is "What can Tesla build with the existing battery supply". The semi like the Gen 3 vehicles will take a virtually inexhaustible battery supply which Tesla is working on.
Apple is in a bit of a pickle because they make all their money on their iPhone and ecosystem. But if somebody comes out with another ecosystem that's attractive and convenient enough.
Another phone eco system is a real problem. Samsung tried it and failed. So it's iOS and Android like it's always been.
I agree with you said 99.9% of everything except this generation we still are a little bit used to owning things now my kids which are five years old and nine years old they might not own a car. Their kids definitely won’t on a car.
The Gov needs to double the CARB fines.
Why don't you run on that platform outside of CA and let us know how it goes? I expect lower fines (and emissions credits and EV purchase credits) in the near future. If Tesla and other automakers would deliver more affordable EVs, rather than stoopid dragsters, opposition to EV mandates wouldn't be growing as it is. We still have elections in this country. What passes for "democracy" here moves slowly, but it does respond to popular opinion occasionally.
@@restonthewind uh both the model 3&Y can be had brand new TODAY for well below the average price of a new car already.
With some options, or paint color of choice and without factoring in any federal local or state ev incentives. 👍🏻
Near me you can get a lr awd 319 mile range model Y for 38-40k after the tax credit. And inventory model 3s are 35k or less. 😎
@@restonthewind
The Tesla Model Y is the best selling car in the world. And that's car, not EV. And world, not California.
And the opposition of EV mandates comes from Big Oil and legacy car companies who can't compete with Tesla.
@@restonthewind Tesla's limiting factor is the battery industry. This explains Tesla growing investment in battery production over the past few years. To provide cars to the masses Tesla needs an inexhaustible supply of affordable quality battery cells.
While we have elections in this country actual functioning of the country is highly influenced by lobbying and campaign contributions. To a degree the same 'buying' holds for popular opinion. ICE and oil are outspending BEV by many orders of magnitudes in this war.
@v6 The average price of new car in the U.S. is $47k. Half of new car buyers pay less, and most people don't buy new cars at all. I paid $22k (plus tax and title) for a 2020 Bolt EV Premier with 8300 miles six months ago. The condition was practically new. I still love it. Someone bought it in 2020 and hardly drove it presumably because of the fire FUD, but so much the better for me. CCS charging infrastructure isn't everything it could be either, and I can imagine some people giving up after a few road trips. You really need to be committed to get over the initial hump.
The base Model 3 costs nearly $40k, and it doesn't qualify for the tax credit because Tesla uses LFP batteries from China. A new Mitsubishi Mirage starts at $17k. Teslas are still too expensive for at least half the population, with below the median income, even 60-70% of the population. If Tesla wants to reach that market, most of the market, it needs less costly options. The Model 3 was supposed to be this option, but the price is still too high. That's why Tesla plans to build the Model 2 (or whatever it'll be called). You're arguing with Tesla, not me.
Tesla's competition is coming All over them self 😂
Hahaha so creativ!
I got a handkerchief for them.
Its called a Tschurifetzn here.
For those who know what this is, don't fall from your stool...
Apple doesn’t believe automated driving is feasible in the next decade(s). Their stock price wasn’t based on this unlike Tesla so it pulled the plug. Meanwhile we will sit here year after year talking about ‘progress’ with Tesla. I suggest taking a hint and recognizing Tesla shareholders are being strung along on ‘robotaxis’.
Don't sell your Tesla stock. You will regret it. This was not financial advice, this was a history lesson.
If agi is going to be here by 2026 which many people believe with Open AI how is that different
@@davidbeppler3032 or you should have sold your Tesla stock 6 months ago and bought Nvidia.
Bravo!!!! It's funny to watch the same bit of info recycled by all the TH-cam Musketeers. There are so many co-dependencies that it's sort of weird. Without Musk, there are no TH-cam channels for several Muskateers and without the Muskateers the echo chamber gets a lot less loud for Tesla. The funniest thing I saw was a "panel" of Muskatters that was assembled after one of Musk's futures presentations. For whatever reason, Kyle Connor was on stage with several Muskateers, and Kyle seemed pretty uneasy about the BS He doesn't buy into all of the FSD nonsense. It sort of reminded me of one of Trump's staged cabinet meetings where the object was to point the camera at member at each cabinet member and praise dear leader IMO, everyone needs to knock it down a feel notches and deal with reality. I own Tesla stock but this futures Bullshit is useless and almost counterproductive.
@@davidbeppler3032 If you don't buy a Tesla Model 3 in 2020, you're stupid. It must be true, Elon said so because you'll be making money when you sleep. Oh well.
Looking at other Apple products any Apple car would have been dreadful.
Tesla 🤟👍
I cannot see that announcing another halo car BEFORE the low cost, mass market one as good news. Neither is the demise of all competition: if Tesla ends up a monopoly it will face all kinds of headwinds from regulators and it is definitely going to slow the ICE transition. And Elon announcing a milestone eight months hence, is he getting more realistic in his old age, or do we still need to apply the standard 'Elon time' multiplier to that?
How many people will buy a $200k car then not buy the $25k car that Tesla will not sell anyway?
This is not a newly announced car. Tesla is building low volume but interesting vehicles while it is developing the virtually inexhaustible battery supply in house and with contracts to ensure that it can build the Gen 3 and semi in volume. When production is started it needs to have everything, including cells, in the pipeline to ramp and meet demand. A factory waiting on parts losses money. The plans are to produce gen 3 vehicles at Texas, Mexico, Germany and Shanghai. They need to replicate the supply chain on 3 continents.
a better analogy to running on all cylinders is running on a fully charged battery, you're welcome
I'd say it's more like running on all motors or all battery cells. 😅
The best engineers went to Tesla, those that didn't get hired by Tesla went to Apple. Never thought that would succeed in the end.
You believe that why? Because Elon said so or because you know the engineers that work at each company?
@@singed8853 Google's LMM illustrates why ambitious engineers and scientists might prefer to work at Tesla
Management style: Apple has a more hierarchical structure, while Tesla might be more flexible and adaptable.
Innovation: Both companies value innovation, but Tesla might have a higher tolerance for risk and experimentation.
Note that this LLM likes to say 'might'. The sun might come up tomorrow would not be an unexpected response.
Apple iRobot might be the reason why they are dropping iCar, as they now see the bigger picture of biped robotics in the office/home market rather than the factory/logistics industry. They want their existing customer base to buy iRobot with iPets.
Is that Niloka Telsa or some other Telsa?
No story about Apple's plans talked about the actual process of building a car -- only the navigation. Never made any sense.
I get it - humans have wanted to race since the wheel was invented. But what is the point of a 0-60 in 1 sec car? How does this contribute to a better, more sustainable future?
It displaces a gas muscle car, which is like TWO gas cars.
Indirectly it does. It provides focus on Tesla while Tesla is busy building the huge infrastructure and supply chains needed to build the Gen 3 in 4 or more factories around the world.
Yeah, it's not like there are any products that Tesla has been trying to get out of beta for years. Musk keeps putting monkeys on Tesla's back. He has to release another Roadster or watch the lawsuits fly. I think it's absolutely stupid. They have a car that does 0-60 in about 2 sections. Put a new set of fenders on the "S" plaid, update the interior, and call it a day.
Wifey wants one, Wifey gets one. End of story.
CarPlay sucks compared to Tesla.
My view of this Apple uses the model of developing the product and tossing it over the wall for manufacturing. They don't get deeply involved in manufacturing or developing factories. I think they began to realize EVs are different from smartphones. You need to live on the factory floor. You have to continuously improve and optimize the process of building a car. The intense competition and Tesla's progress on FSD made them realize there was no hope of being competitive and profitable.
Running out of topics??? 😎
That seems pretty obvious. Let's talk about more future, Yeah, the new Roaster, is coming, maybe, quite possibly in 2025, 2026
Apple lacks Tesla's innovation centered culture and systems. And a CEO that bets the house on building the future today.
What’s with the typos in the title man Telsa? Really?
I really, really hope that @ElonMusk does not over hype this Roadster. His credibility hangs in the balance. Some people will ask what cred? Certainly it will be an awesome product and (when) it arrives it will be jaw dropping. Here's hoping.
The roadster will live and die by the performance numbers other than the original 600 mile range. The rocket thrusters will allow this car to corner like no other. It may annihilate nurburgring times. After that times will be listed with and w/o thrusters or simpler ban them. This is how motor sports works.
This roadster is all about keeping the public focused on Tesla. Hype is good so long as it is true.
@@danharold3087 it depends on the pricing. If it's fast and still affordable (for the semi well healed) then Tesla will have a winner 🏆 We don't need another hypercar on limited production.
@@mariusmeyer14 Things change over time. Maybe Tesla can with new production methods reach profitability with the roadster. Going down scale with millions of Gen 3 cars it will help to have upscale cars including the roadster. Yes it depends.
"His credibility hangs in the balance" Fuck his credibility. Lets have fun!
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Apple did the analysis, and EVs are a flash in the pan.
What other conclusion can you come up with?
EVs are snow of yesterday as we say here in Germania. The future is Hydrogenium!
They didn’t say a “solar” car. Apple buys Aptera
That's why I never see tesla as the apple of cars. Tesla isn't afraid to take risks and bring true innovation. Apple is the opposite of that even with pikeloads of cash on hand
I'd say they did with the Vision Pro?
@@jsjs6751 Mixed Reviews: While some praise its potential and technological advancements, others criticize its high cost, bulky design, and limited content library.
I’m not sure Musk wasn’t overhyping the Roadster as a joke… SpaceX collaboration? Hmmmm. 🤔
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I think I got it! Thanks John!
A product that I'll never own is not the best ever product !for me!. I'd much rather see the $25k (or $27k or even $30k) vehicle roll off the assembly line. Tesla already sells the Model S and Model X. I doubt that the Roadster will increase its brand appeal significantly. Everyone already knows that $100k vehicles accelerate faster than $20k vehicles. So what?
No. I don't want something like that. I drive on highways with 65 mph speed limits, not on racetracks. My Bolt already accelerates better than most vehicles on the road. I already win at traffic lights and making left turns. Most EVs do. 0-60 in a second (with rockets from SpaceX!) is ridiculous overkill for professional racers and wealthy speed demons with private tracks. How large is that market? Will the Roadster even recover its R&D cost? I wouldn't be surprised if these 0-60 in a second rockets aren't even street legal.
Sounds like another boondoggle squandering Tesla's R&D money engineered by Musk, like Solar City and humanoid robots and the ever-mythical robotaxi. I'm not saying that autopilot and FSD are wasted R&D, but all the hype about robotaxis "next year" only disappoints Tesla customers as well as provoking lawsuits.
I wish Apple would finance Aptera production in exchange for an Apple badge on the vehicles. Seems perfect for the Apple brand. They might find a way to invest some of their self-driving tech too. Aptera is currently committed to OpenPilot which has significant limitations like only one front-facing camera.
Yes but when the $100K vehicle blows past the ones costing many time more that generates excitement. As happened with the S plaid. The new roadster, SpaceX, is the first production, maybe only, car to be fitted with cold gas thrusters. What it can do will only be limited by how much compressed nitrogen they can store on the car. If one can still call it a car.
Tesla needs to be in the public eye while it prepares for Gen 3 around the globe. This does that. It makes the people who earned the cars happy. And a few engineers at Tesla are going to have gobs of fun while we hopefully watch it happen.
@old3087 It doesn't excite me a bit, and the Model S already blows past most of its competition. Seriously, how many people really care about a high-end sports car with rocket assist that'll subject its passengers to six G? What happens when someone takes this car on the road and loses control of it? That'll put Tesla in the public eye for sure. The vast majority of people are more interested in a car they might actually drive someday. Only drag racing fans and Tesla fan boys care about this car. I guarantee you that my wife has never heard of it, and she'll roll her eyes when I tell her about it.
I think Elon is setting everyone up to be disappointed. He has these wonderful pipe dreams that he wants to do but when it comes to reality they can't be made like he wants them to be. Like the 500 mile cyber truck with the loading ramp in the tailgate.
Most Tesla products exceed the promised specs. The Roadster already did, the Model S Plaid is essentially the Roadster for half the price.
The Cybertruck is also better then promised in many ways. The cost is mostly inflation, and the combination of early production ramp and insane demand. And they could have hit the range too, but since 2019 the circumstances changed, it's no longer that important. With the far bigger Supercharger network you don't need high range anymore, weight and cost are more important. What likely didn't work out is the 4680 cell, which is significantly behind schedule. With the cells they imagined in 2020, the CT would have had much higher range at the same weight and cost.
But this has nothing to do with the CT itself. The competitors have similar ranges with bigger batteries.
@@andrasbiro3007 Agree the truck Tesla delivered may not be the exact truck shown in 2019 but it is a better truck but for the range. Tesla could have used a 200KWh battery pack for more range but that would have made for a very heavy truck. This was the original plan. They made the right decision for the time. GM is selling truck(s) with that size pack if you really want one. Might have to be a hummer.
Apple car play should just require 8 cameras, and 3 lidar to work. Then Apple could get data from 90% of cars on the road. Problem solved.
Apple going big or staying home in the EV/autonomy competition are both terrifying for legacy automakers. Going big doubles the high tech competition; staying home demonstrates the difficulty of competing with Tesla products. Only one celebrating tonight is Tesla.
Tesla definitely has a huge lead in EVs in the U.S. I wouldn't say that it's insurmountable, but it's huge.
But BYD can also celebrate, and it'll eventually challenge Tesla in the U.S. if U.S. protectionism doesn't keep it out. Stellantis claims to sell EVs profitably now, and other legacy automakers will as well eventually, assuming that EV adoption continues to grow. If EV adoption stalls in the U.S., legacy auto will celebrate biding their time.
I doubt that EV mandates will survive political pressure much longer. They're unpopular in most of the country. Trump will be elected POTUS, if he can stay out of jail, and he'll roll back EV mandates as much as he can. He'll also double down on anti-China protectionism, so he's a two-edged sword ...
I wouldn't put much stock in anything BYD puts out number wise. Because they include their hybrid sales with their EV sales. Also they are supported and backed by the CCP, a communist party by the way, they will do anything to make itself look good. Just because a company from china makes the most of something doesn't mean that it's good, to include BYD.@@restonthewind
@@restonthewindIt'snot about EVs... it's about operating systems, real world AI, robotics.
@arty1762 We'll see how Tesla does with AI and robotics. Optimus is still pie in the sky. Tesla earns nothing from it yet, and less than 10% of Teslas have FSD. If you want to speculate on Tesla's success in this arena, go ahead, but don't pretend that you aren't speculating.