My NGC Coin Grading Results are In!
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Thank you for the pledge. You should have that encapsulated to preserve it for the youngsters who have never heard it.
Definitely
It’s here until the American-haters at the top of this platform delete my videos :)
Yayyy Graded Coins ‼️‼️
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agreed NGC should have said up front the gold peace would be details before conservation.Always like looking at coins ,thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
I love your channel. I only buy graded coins. I never buy details. I don't have the nerve to submit raw coins. I'm not that good at grading. Keep the content coming Speg !
As a PS....Loved the Pledge at the end! Well done!🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
A nice touch!
I had an awesome tapered planchette graded and my mistake was over estimating it's value,they use that number to figure out the insurance for shipping so getting it returned to me cost $38
Nice collection I especially like the 1798 draped bust I think it's really cool to own a piece of history from the seventeen hundreds.
It’s fun to think of where it’s been!
I totally agree! I get to be part of this coin’s history now.
Loving this! Glad you did a coin grade reveal on your collection.
Thanks for watching 😊
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video Speg ! I've always been very curious about these coin grading services . I've been collecting coins since 1964 . Although that seems like I've been collecting coins for a long time my personal coin collection is what I consider to be a very small collection but very special and nostalgic to me anyway . This is just my personal opinion for whatever that is worth but I really have grown to not like these coin grading services . I just feel that they , the grading companies , have taken a lot of the mystique and wonder out of the numismatic hobby for me . And by the way I have one of those 1853 one dollar gold coins just like you have that my father gave me . Anyway sorry for the long-winded post . I love your channel , am subscribed and give you constant thumbs ups . Keep up the great work my friend . And by the way for what you paid to have those coins graded you could have bought yourself a brand new uncirculated English Sovereign gold coin with the image of the new King on it and still had a few bucks left over .
I see your point but I do like that side-line opinion that is thought to be respected when it comes to the value of the coins. When I die, it should even the playing field for when my family sells them too.
Hi SpegTacular! FYI... If you use window clings to cover your grades, you won't get any of that sticky residue on your coins slabs. Legacy $tacker gave me this idea.
That 1798 large eagle is amazing. So what, it is a details grade. There is not a single person here that wouldn’t love to have that in their collection. It’s now protected and you have a fantastic coin.
When I get my coins back if they come back details I am disappointed, but then I study the coin some more and try and see what the graders are looking at. I’ve only been collecting/stacking/hunting for 2 years so this is still a learning process for me. All in all some great coins for your collection, congrats!
Thank you for your video on the NGC grading process experience you had. There are some things to be learned for the rest of us.
Glad it was helpful!
Beautiful coins! Appreciate you sharing your experiences and honest opinions! 👌
Thanks for watching!
Wow! That 1798 heraldic eagle dollar is beautiful. I am putting together a US type set. This time I'm going for all graded coins, PCGS, NGC, or ANACS. I have stayed with all straight grade coins so far. I'd be proud to have a dollar like that in my collection. The eye appeal on it is great.
Good luck with your collection! How far along are you in it?
@Mrs Spegtacular im doing well, im as far back as capped bust in some denominations . It's getting more expensive with each certified coin now. This is my fifth type set, but the first time I've determined to put it together with all certified straight grade coins. It's going to take a while.
Good stuff. Informative video; esp. sharing the particulars of your grading experience.
Nice, I like coin grading results... I like locking in the value also on these... Bro i love those world coins! That saltwater story is great! Wow ms62 on the 8 Real! That 1798 is AMAZING! Beautiful gold coin! Fully hustled on that "cleaned" gold coin. Man that's crazy long, I had a 17 day turnaround time with NGC, but I did only submit 7 morgans... Thanks for sharing...
He waited somewhat patiently 😆
Thank you!!
I’m glad you said how they charge a percentage of the price for expensive coins , I’ve been saying this is a rip off and what right do they have to cash in on other peoples money like that for ages , that’s a scammer dog trick but you are the very first utuber who has admitted they do this thank you 👍
It’s in their grading service tier info for all to see. They’re not ashamed of it. I also find that to be repulsive.
100%. It's pure greed.
@@Spegtacular complete rip off, imagine sending a $10,000 coin for grading, pay all the fees, then put it on eBay and sell and pay eBay fees.
Beautiful coins. Love you and Coin Guy and you. Keep up the great work.
Very nice! Just total eye candy. Thanks, man.
Thanks for watching 😊
About grading: Claims that grading companies favour clients who send large inventories of coins for grading are entirely speculative in my view. NGC and PCGS both have 'guarantee' as part of the registered name of the company. For them to favour the bullion dealers, who are already favoured by the US Mint for those 'Early Releases', 'First Releases', 'First Day Of Issue' etc coins in bulk, this would make a mockery of the ethics of offering a grading service guarantee. It would be extremely unfair to individuals wanting to use the same service. It would make no sense for a business to discourage potential clients(dollars) in this manner.
Lastly: these companies make their money grading coins; not trading coins. They are more likely to give a discount to bulk orders; just like any other business.
Great subject to bring up, Speg. It was time to clear the air on that.
Registered mail also gets stored in a bank style safe overnight when not in transit. When I worked with mail we had a package with $21,500 cash that someone mailed for a down payment on a house? lol the guy who picked it up opened it in front of me to make sure there was real cash inside I was shocked...the buyer was purchasing a summer home and had a business trip so couldn't come in person dont you think they would have just waited? lol whatever it was quite the experience...Being a stacker I knew what packages had metals in them we had 4 different collectors 3 of them bought from APMEX frequently and one bought from Scottsdale often...I always knew the return adress even though tis "discreet" lol luckily im an honest person otherwise all it would have taken was to empty the contents and stamp it was arrived damaged...No wonder so many mailmen steal...I was just excitement for those guys I know its fun to get those packages...Kind of like when moms got baby stuff in the mail like cribs I knew they were excited so it made delivering that stuff more fun :)
Sounds like quite the job!
@@mrsspegtacular6484 I was a highway contract employee for 8 years so I transported mail then delivered it as well, interesting job for sure...There are soooooo many packages these days, its flipped flipped use to be mostly letters and magazines with a few packages but of course no one gets mail its all digital now and everyone orders online lol so they focus HEAVY on packages now... its still hard to keep track and the lost and stolen ones are like casualties of war and accepted as lost with little to no real investigation to find it and thats why I ALWYS tell people to insure your packages just in case...
Hello Newman lol
…..Newman!
I miss my old coin dealer down south. He would send your coins in to be graded at a far smaller price than what you would be charged if you sent them in yourself ( of course you had to wait sometimes. He gathered many coins to be graded and then sent them in, but your savings were fantastic) Nice haul Speg. And thank you for sharing.
I had one of those dealers too and I enjoyed him sending them off more than me doing it on my own.
Thanks for sharing. - this was great! I will tell you your opinions are spot on. I think they are a better deal if you submit with a coin show. I also think that taking coins to a dealer to submit for you with their larger order is also a good way to go. Finally, since we live in FL (not everyone is that lucky) we can drive them and save on the shipping. i am also in the tampa area and they are in Sarasota. Gas could be a wash…. You picked great coins to submit. BUT, if you have more modern coins or coins you plan on keeping and not selling them ICG is a good way to go. Coin Guy likes them as well. They were started by some former NGC graders about 25 years ago. They do a great job and validate them and protect them the same as all the other services - for half the price. Also, they do not have pricing or price guides. This is nice since they have no reason to control populations. NGC is my favorite to collect and buy. Thanks again
Thank you Philip
NGC used to put the "improperly cleaned" designation on the holder. So did that mean there was such a thing as proper cleaning? I took it to mean if they cleaned it, "conserved it", it was acceptable. But if you or anyone else altered the surface in any way, it was a no no. I have a few coins I would like to have authenticated but I dread getting the devastating "cleaned" designation!
It’s a gamble 😬
Some really BEAUTIFUL coins Speg! As for grading....I will NEVER be hired as a grader...but I'm blaming my bad calls on my tablet screen....so there! Only called one... ONE! The peace dollar was correct...every other one was way off! I'm really surprised they didn't automatically call the dollar gold as ex-jewelry... quite surprised! Great video Speg! Looking forward to more! Take care, be safe and God bless!
Thanks for always supporting my husband, Jim!
Hi Jim i must say i was disappointed with your disparaging remarks about your coin grading skills. No one is born with these skills. Some are born with the aptitude to remember details and have excellent visual acuity but most people (even our current experts) had to study and learn coin grading from the bottom up. This takes time and hands on the coins. There is no reason you could not learn how to grade coins subjectively and accurately with just a few hours of reading and research. Sheldon scale graphic (pictures of grade scale condition AG-MS70) coin scales of the coin you"d like to grade help a lot when just starting out. You will quickly learn the visual grades most commonly found for each coin you study within a few numerical positions. As I conclude id also like to say that a coin cannot truly be graded from a picture or a video. Luster, strike and eye appeal can only be evaluated in person with coin in hand. A well educated guess can be made from pictures or videos but really no true coin expert would stand behind a grade of a coin in a picture. So keep going keep learning and you someday will be the best coin grader ever!
It’s tough on a screen to grade them at all. Gold on screen doesn’t look a thing like it does in person imo
This was a blast. It can be tough to catch all the stuff that graders do. If you train yourself you can often catch that stuff. Thanks for sharing!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Really liked the pledge at the end of the video!
Very cool Speg 👍
Love the 1908 MS65+. Sweet piece!
You did very well on the Saint. My favorite is the Draped Bust Dollar. What a cool coin.
It is!
Good choice!
Loved the pledge of allegiance at the end Nice coins 🪙
Thanks for watching 😊
Loved the pledge of allegiance❤. I'm a pastor of a church. We say it every Sunday morning before the church service begins
Oh at church? Very nice!
You always have nice stuff. Funny I turned in 19 coins at a show. I was most upset with the cleaned ones. But then I also felt cheated by not getting a box. I spent 675
Send the common morgans to ANACs next time. The grades will be the same and they'll only charge you 13 per coin. The Gaudens really surprised me at 65+ . I saw wear ( from 5 o'clock to 8 o'clock) on the reverse that had me at 58-61 making me think it may have circulated. No one gives 60s anymore, you'll either be rounded up or rounded down. I'll need to review it to see how I missed so badly. The draped bust was beautiful. I have the same coin, also came back XF details from PCGS. Thanks for the share on the reveal.
Yeah, I was thinking “where’s the 60s”
I send all my common dates to an anacs.13 bucks and the trading is definitely the same. And faster.
That $35 fee experience might've put me off sending it 😰
That 1908 NM MS 65+ St Gaudens is really nice! Considering there are only 7800 graded higher with none graded above MS 68. You may consider a crack out and regrade since the plus grade enforces the possible slider to MS66. You may get a more generous grader on the next submission. I doubt It would slip to MS 65 with no plus on regrade..but Id love to see if it can get the bump! I believe in you!
I probably won’t crack that one but it’s a possibility. Also a possibility that I just waste more and more money on it too which is what I worry about ;)
I belong to NGC...I like NGC....but I won't submit any more. The varied "handling charges", costs in general, and the fact they won't cross ANACS has soured me on submitting. PCGS is just as bad cost wise, but at least they'll cross ANACS.
Instead of NGC throwing shade at the company from its inception to now, they could have at least allowed the ANACS soapbox slabs to be crossed.
Very fun and informative show. The outcome of the cleaned $20 gold coin is a bit disturbing. I find it hard to believe that you wouldn't have noticed those scratches if they were on the coin before you sent it in. It's unsettling to think that they may have made the condition worse by "conserving" it. Looks like taking photos of your coins before sending them off is a really good idea. Cheers.
Also -- given the mysterious disappearance of your credit card info, you might want to get the card replaced with one that has a new number and change password. I get new credit cards every couple of years just as a matter of security.
It’s a great suggestion. 👍
The Scratch Marks on the 1798 Draped Bust are consistent with silver reduction by the mint. The plug was probably too heavy. The rake like deep marks are typical of 1794 - 1803 coins weight reduction I've seen many. The 1804s were made in 1836 for a diplomatic mission for kings like Oman & Thailand. Big book on that journey.
Love that MS 65+ St Gaudens!
It’s a beauty!
Some nice looking Morgan's you've got.
Thanks for checking them out 😊
what are the PCGS cert. forms & how dow I get them?? Do u know where I get the certif requests??
You had a 1793 Spanish coin graded but taped over the NGC number. I wanted to see what they valued the coin (8 Reales) at as I've got a 1782 of the same coin.
NICE SPEGS!
Thanks for watching!
The graders at ngc & pcgs are not told where a coin comes from whether it be a bullion dealer or an individual, this information is purposefully withheld so that graders can be as unbiased as possible during the grading process. That being said, preferential treatment is obviously a problem in grading and probably has more to do with the amount of $$$ involved.
Wow, getting the St Gaudens anywhere near melt is a HUGE win! Especially ms65+!
So don’t quote me on this.. but I believe the scenario was… I was in a coin shop.. a person dropped off the coins and sold them.. I said, “how much are those?” Since they’re US currency, I don’t need to wait the 30 days in Florida, and I purchased and walked out. The dealer felt good that he made the quickest buck of his life and I was happy I got pre-33.
@@Spegtacular noice
I like the PCGS cert, same certification styles, same cert levels, just my preference. I don't like the white encasements, tough to see the certification styles, etc. Some are encased diff due to very old cases, there's nothing to do. I like same certifications.
Pillar dollars are cool, Mexican liberty caps are even cooler. I'd buy that MS 62 if it came across my path. I think this stuff has a good chance to become $500 coins like CC's
Would you treat your own coins with EZ est before submission due to your Conservation experience?
Also, it’s a good idea to only submit coins under 1 tier for example US coins modern or economy because they charge shipping and handling for every individual tier, it’s best not to mix if you want to save money during the grading process.
It’s only handling if you have them all ship together as I did.
Why did you go with ngc vs pcgs? I’m thinking of going some of my coins graded
Very nice speg.
Thank you for sharing this! this sounds like a VISA application, lol. No explanation, just the result, like or not, and what options do you have? 🙂
Have a 1797 Large Cent, with details, corrosion. But, whose hands could it have been in. Adams, Jefferson, Washington.
It’s fun to think about!
Exactly
MS 65+, very solid!
It’s a beauty!
What a racket.
You should make a coin collecting iceberg video
I’d be doing some bitching about them “conserving” it and still give you a cleaned grade.
Osweeeee go NY (90 mins from my house!)
Ultimately, I blv (w/o NGC and PCGS) making serious changes...they themselves will destroy (their own) GOLDEN GOOSE: After many years of (more value for them and less for their customers), at some point I think not too far off, and ANOTHER STANDARD WILL ARISE. They are forcing a NON-PROFIT ALTERNATIVE; as way too many examples of this less-than-optimal behavior, as I have my stories too. Thank you for this video.
Once CAC starts slabbing this year, they'll put an immediate dent into PCGS & NGC's market share. If any standard will be looked at as the gold standard, it'll be theirs.
@@thesilveraura2177 Great. May they have success.
Which is better NGC or PCGS? I am sure they swap coins and make mistakes
I was wondering if the 1898 was cleaned befor you showed the grade. Made me feel like I had a good eye for it. I'm to nervous to send in a coin I would like graded. What is to stop anyone who works their from switching out my coin with a problem coin. I think that could happen. Not everyone, maybe only half of people today are trustworthy. And you have no idea who is handling the coins.
I don't have to get my channel rounds graded, everybody knows they are perfect 😉
True!! 😊
Aww
Learning the grading process is so confusing to me lol isn’t ms-70 the best??? Just curious you know I’m new haha😂
I heard a big time seller on Whatnot say “if you want your coins graded better pay the more money on the higher grading scale”
So yes they are definitely showing bias
Only thing I don't like about NGC is you get coins back in a cardboard box, and not a nice plastic case like PCGS.
i want some american mint coins but im in canada nd from the dealer there like 20 over market price lus dilivery, doesnt make sense.And yea i shopped around.
grading services hate Peace dollars !
What happened to peace dollar squeeze? Is it still on?
Still squeezing!
All year at LEAST
Nice coins! Did NGC do a dna test to find out who whizzed on that
Teehee 🤭
I have some rare coins that need grading I was on the fence about using NGC, now I'm definitely NOT going to be using NGS. Pitiful on their part.
Do you think you would have received the same grades from PCGS?
That’s a good question. I would hope it would be very similar.
I wanna send some coins in but I'm just nervous
Gotta suck it up and hold your breath…
They certainly do charge too much, that's why I've started stacking MS64 and higher constitutional under $50
overall a nice set of coins. Really like 1798 dollar
Yeeeeeee
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Hawwww
Between the two, one can argue about the differences in their grading standards, BUT, NGC has by far the worst quality control. Loose inserts that rattle when shook, (from multiple gen holders that came straight from NGC) coins improperly seated on the tabs and errors on labels. The only time I was happy to get a label they screwed up was actually on an error coin......a Morgan that was supposed to say Obverse Struck Thru, instead it reads Obverse Struck Trhu. An error coin in a error slab. 👍
I hope your results are somewhat expected . I prefer to stay away from them unless it's above 5g
What does it cost to have a Morgan to be graded
When you consider it requires a membership then late thirties to early 40s $$$
Isnt XF more so rare? their price guide price on the eagle is $4750 while the VF is $2600 and F $1750
XF is nice for this coin. The damage not so much but I’ll take XF
She may be old but on this channel we love older women 😉 😉
His coffee cup validates this!
@@mrsspegtacular6484 yesssssss
Haha yep!!!
What yall think about AI & computer grading possibilities in the future 🤔??
Need it.
grading is not a joke. it cost allot.
So did you pay $75 each for the grade. Man that is a lot of money!
No it was much less than that. Although, the gold $20 Lib may have been close to that since the conservative effort they charged for
Love that 1908 St. Gaudens. Even though a Christian, I like the coin WITHOUT motto as it is a bit simpler.
It makes it even look like more of a medal but I do prefer the motto as I like the completeness of it.
The reason why Teddy Roosevelt did not want the motto on, Money could be used for immoral things. Almost reminds me of Roman Brothel tokens, and the story behind it, or the history. Basically the Emperor was seen as a god. The Cult of The Emperor. Tiberius did not want coins with the image of the emperor to be used for brothels. Do not know how true it is, but a cool take on history
Anything can be used immorally.
its getting harder and harder to find a good place to sell silver or gold this time next year.
say goodbye to currency.
all you need is the mark ..
no more subject to opinion...!
I think you have done better with PCGS. At least you would have gotten a plastic box. And better .service
Maybe next time I’ll try them.
That CC looks real pretty! I don.t even want to guess how pricey it was though!
I thought they would put on the label restored something fishy
what is the tape hiding?
Certification number.
u spend $500 and they send them back in a cardboard thingy? they got u fcked up!
Sounds like your entire experience was shady af.
Some of it was really annoying for someone submitting for the first time.. shouldn’t have happened.
I feel like they’re rushing and missing steps.
Hallo sir
Hi
@14:37, Now, that's a beauty!
How long did it take to get them back?
It took just over 2 months.
I had them at the post office on February 1st and I got them back on April 12th.
@@Spegtacular Thats about what PCGS has been running as well. So at least they have sped a little bit hehe.
A few of those , you would be better off to crack out in my opinion 🤔