What's The Best Trolling Motor Battery (Best Value)
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- This is my opinion. There are other great batteries out there, but for the money I believe this is the best value. Duracell Deep Cycle batteries are made by Deka
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Batteries are 60lbs, every 3 batteries is a person. I really apperciate you thinking I only weigh 180lbs. You da man.
Maybe you’re a 4, 5, or 6 battery sized kinda guy. I did not mean to misrepresent anyone. Lol
Thanks for the informative video! I bought a deep cycle for my Minn Kota!
What kind of battery did you get for your minnkota?
I've been running mine strong for 5 years now, looking to get another set!
Sammy, I'm fairly new to this. Was out in my kayak today (first time this year) and my battery failed after about an hour of moderate use. Question is, does it make sense that the battery voltage would test out at 11.4 volts and still not have the power to push the kayak?
11.4 volts is really low, it makes sense it died.
Typically on a full charge 13.2V is about normal off the charger, once you start dipping below 12.7v you’re not going to want to put too much more draw on that battery (to protect it long term). 12.2v is considered 50% life remaining, and you don’t want to take lead cell batteries below that or you’ll shorten the life.
Things happen, you need it after you dip below 12.2. Just know if you had “1000 charge cycles” with that battery, you now will get less charge cycles by running it down below 50%.
@@SammyBenitez Thanks, the battery is a Deka but no where on the case does it tell me its ah rating. The kayak is a 2016 and was a demo so the battery is 4 seasons old. I keep it on a battery tender all the time....not sure if that's a good idea or not. It gets used about 15 times a year so it hasn't seen too many cycles from me. That said. it sound like it's time for a new battery. It charged all night last night, the charger went to maintain mode and I only got about 12.6 volts this morning at full charge.
There's 2 things that could have happened.
Number 1; it could have died period.
Number 2; it could have just dipped on the power and tripped a power inverter or motor safety setting. Let me explain this. 11.4 volts is a bit low. Many power inverters have a safety setting to shut off at about 10.5-ish volts. So it will shut off. (Is this the same for trolling motors? Do they have this safety setting like inverters have?) They do this shut off because if the power drops below that its supposedly harming the batteries, battery bank etc. So what that means is... if you apply a load to a battery that's already weaker than the full 12 volts, it will drop down up to 2 volts. So in this case while carrying a charge that 11.4 volt battery could have dipped down to 9.4 volts and tripped whatever safety shut off settings are there. (I don't know if you can turn these settings off without taking it apart. And presumably some of these trolling motors may have settings similar to power inverters of a shut off if the power in batteries gets too low.)
11.4 volts also shows the battery was already damaged.
Thanks for making this man
Wesley Willard hope it helped!
Question, 12v dual batteries set up of group 27
It will be more than enough to run all day a minn Kota 55 lbs trust with i-pilot, right? trolling and using the spotlock,
Soon I’ll be installing i-Pilot on my boat than want have everything ready for the spring , just checking with people about thoughts and experience they have,
Thanks
There are a lot of variables still. If this is your main source of propulsion then I don’t know. If you plan to use it only to troll after getting to your spots you should have plenty of juice.
I heard people like to do 2 batteries at least with 1 normal marine battery (higher amp hour, or battery bank of amp hours) and then an agm battery. They don't always have all them be AGM because of the cost. But this idea is they have the starter or whatever pulling the initial power draw first from the AGM battery. And people say AGM have slightly higher volts like 13 volts +? It seems like this is the reason for the AGM battery to control the power dip of an inverter wanting to shut off the power to the batteries when the voltage wants to drop too much with the AGM battery having slightly higher initial volts level? (AGM having slightly higher voltage than other batteries.)
What this means?
If this idea of my question works then you wouldn't need to have all of the batteries in the battery bank be AGM batteries, you'd only need the key starter power draw battery that's getting most of the juice pulled through it to be the AGM higher cost battery with everything else being cheap stuff.
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And I have concerns about you guys wanting to do lithium batteries with trolling. You know you are going out into water... lithium reacts to water. Explosively so. If you were to get those batteries wet ... could be a bad situation.
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Hope someone can reply on this. Thank you.
hey man i have a 12v 55lb thrust minn kota with ipilot. How long do you think i would get out of one of these on a trip? looking at the blue tops but im trying to get the most hours out of whatever battery i choose as i will have to charge them at home the day or two prior to a trip.
This will just be to troll? You can probably get a full day out of it if it’s not running on high all the time. Looking at the optima blue, you may get more charges out of it, but this has more amp hours.
So if you don't want to damage the battery's life, don't take it below 50%? That means a 55lb trolling motor that pulls about ~40-45amps on full speed you can get about 1 full hour on a 100aH battery before you should quit? Is that right? I wanted to get a 55lb trolling motor for my kayak, to have extra thrust for going against currents, but I might get a 30 now just to have more battery life.
That is correct. If you want to protect the batteries long term usage, you don’t want to over drain a lead cell. You can just not use the highest setting on the 55lb motor unless you really need it.
Slightly confused. Im new and plan on putting one at the front of my jon boat and fishing mangroves and flats for redfish and snook fishing. I just want my trolling motor to last me a day of fishing i will use a little outboard motor to get me longer distances but for fishing id be anchored or trolling
What don’t you get? What size trolling motor are you going to be using?
Hi, just wondering if you could please kindly help me out. I have a 68lb engine and thinking of running it with a 110ah agm. Is that a good option and roughly how long would I get ? Thanks in advance.
Anything over 55lb is typically 24v, so I’m not sure what 12v is running 68lb. But if it was 12v and 68lbs, you would draw around 60ah. You wouldn’t want to drain the battery much past 50ah, so you would have an hour or so of full throttle speed.
@@SammyBenitez thanks very much for the response. I’ve just double checked and it’s saying 12v? 68lb bison trolling motor it is.
I was given an old trolling motor and I am wondering what type of battery to get for it. The motor is a Minn Kota 25 Watt 14 lb thrust three speed with reverse. I would like a battery that can be used all day. Can you help me? Also, seeing that it has been in my parents basement for about 25 years, is there anything I should service on it before I use it?
14lb is pretty low, so it probably won’t draw a lot of power. These Duracells are still the best bang for the buck, but in your case you can probably go a little smaller, the group 27 everstart batteries at Walmart could be a cheaper alternative
With a 30 pound thrust trolling motor how long do you think this battery will last.
I pretty long time. At full thrust close to 3 hours I would say. 30lb thrust draws about 30amps.
This is a heavy battery I but two years now I fish 3-6 hours in a canoe a day in summer
Ive got a 55 thrust newport trolling motor, what would the best lithium specs be? Im guessing 100ah but i dont know
I like having the most capacity possible on hand, so 100ah would be good. Minimum 60ah, with lithium that will give you ~1hr run time at full throttle. 100ah will give almost 2 hours.
thanks
Cool vid!! With a 45 lb thrust motor how many hours would you say I could get with 100 AH only trolling at 2-3 speeds? 🤔
2-3 out of 5? I’d say you’d be pulling 20-25ah, so somewhere near 3 hours of nonstop use
@@SammyBenitez Cool cool. Ty.
if i have a trolling motor with a 34 amp hour rating and i get a deep cycle battery with a 90 amp hour rating, how many hours can i run my trolling motor for?
You only want to run it down about halfway for a lead cell, so you’ll have around 50ah that is usable safely. So you could run 1.5hrs at full speed, and you gain a lot of time by by throttling back.
Benefit doesn't always have to be wallet, environment is also an important benefit to consider, that's why I went AGM.
Never heard anyone mention it before. What environmental benefits does it have?
i have a question. i am just getting into trolling motors and boats. could you tell me a good battery for a 45 lb thrust trolling motor?
all i am planning to do is bring the battery in with a trolling motor. just the battery and motor. i have heard of starting batteries and overheating. could you just tell me about all of that when you grt the time i cant find anything on the internet and i need to figure this out so i know what im doing and what to get if so thsnk you so much
These batteries.
A deep cycle, lead acid battery (or gel, or even lithium) is what you want for a trolling motor. The bigger the group size, usually the longer run time you can get. So a deep cycle lead cell group 31 battery is the biggest you can get for a trolling motor.
Sammy Benitez is there a certain amperage i need?
Scematic not necessarily, but look up the specs of your trolling motor. It should say how many amps it draws. The more amps the battery has, the longer run time you get.
Sammy Benitez ohh okay thank you so much iv been trying to find stuff for trolling motor begginers but i cant find anything
How long does a single battery last you for on the water?
Depends what I’m doing with it. I run a helix 10 and Garmin echomap plus 73SV on one, it will go 12hrs no problem.
55lb trolling motor pulls “53amps” on high. It would drain one of these (to 50%) in about an hour straight on full speed. It’s usually sufficient for a full day on the water trolling the banks.
14ft aluminum boat with a 55 lb thrust minn kota should i go with a 27 or 31 group battery
If it’s your main source of propulsion, group 31. If you have a gas outboard, it’s up to you if the additional AH are worth it.
Is the Duralast 27DC Group 27 Deep Cycle Marine Battery going to last me 2 hours for my 30lb min Kota? Thanks! 🙏
It’ll be close, you’ll get more time out of the group 31 though. If at full throttle all the time you won’t see much difference, but even running at “4” you get probably 30min more Run time with a group 31.
Sammy Benitez thank you, the group thing really confuses me.
It’s just the size. Group 24 is small, group 27 is medium, and group 29/31 are the larger
Shiett i have the duralast 27 in my bass boat my trolling motor runs for more then 9 hours
I have a 1974 Terry Bass boat. Approx 16 ft. With a minn Kota trolling motor. You think the battery you use would last me as long as yours? Shoot I'd be happy with 6 or 7 hrs lol. Thx. Be safe out there everyone. 👍👊
Hi. Can I use my 12v lithium golf trolley battery to drive my outboard. If so how do I connect it
You should be able to, assuming both are 12v. just connect the positive lead to positive terminal and negative lead to negative terminal.
I actually really liked my "bunny battery" nothing outlasted my Energizer 😂
Hello guys, i couldnt find this type of batteries where i live.. could the trolling motor works with kids ride (power wheels) batteries?? Thanks
You want a bigger battery than that. Any “deep cycle” for boats and RV will work, it just may not be the best value
@@SammyBenitez thank you for your answer. Marine batteries are not easy to find in my area.. i think i have no choice for now than test it at least with the power wheels battery.
Lop4 batterys also last more then triple the life span of lead acid, they max balance drops very little vs lead too
These are true, and one of the reason I did purchase some LiFePO4 batteries after all
@@SammyBenitez I gotta get me a nice battery from dokota lithium, that 10 year warranty is just to temping!
@@QSA10 I made a video on some Ampere Time ones I purchased. So far so good. Half the price of Dakota, half the warranty, hopefully not half the battery though. Lol
Hi could you please recommend a 24 volt trolling motor all I can find is 12 volt
In lead cell form you will mostly only find 12v. Look up “running 12v batteries in series”
There are many good videos on how to turn two 12v into one 24v system. You only need some extra wire to make it happen
How much AH do I need for a 40lb trolling motor
I would always get the most you can. You’ll be pulling around 35ah at full speed. Max drain on a lead cell should be 50%, so you’re looking at 1.5-2hr at max speed on these batteries. The life is significantly increased going at a slower rate
What’s the best battery for a 55lb trust trolling motor?
VietDat15 - I like these. The ever start group29 aren’t bad either. You want as many amp hours as you can get with a 55lb because you will draw around 45amps at full speed.
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I have had very good service from those batteries
That battery at batteries plus is now $157 with core. It’s late November now, 9 months since you posted and the price has doubled. WTF
I’m looking now, I’m seeing $129.99 with a core, $157 without. They also run 10% off most of the time for online orders.
And Sam’s club is still showing $100 with core.
@@SammyBenitez Supply and demand? or they saw your video and decided to raise the price.
i bought 12v 200 amp for nv 62 lb thrust it says dony use lithiom baTTERY IT A LITHIUM IRON PHOSHATE PLEASE LET MR KNOW HAS MORE THEN ENOUPH POWER
I actually purchased some LiFePO4 batteries as well (I have another video about them). Long term there may be negative effects on the motor, I just started to test it out myself.
As far as power, definitely way more. Is it the best value though? That really depends on your needs.
I plug in my little Honda generator to my battery and it never dies.
At 11 months , duck the battery up and get a replacement .. 3 years total
How do I do that ?
Can you add water to it?
Yes, these are serviceable. Has about 6 spots to add distilled water.
I have a lower cca marine starting battery. Can I use that for my trolling motor. It's an 80s model endura 30.
Unfortunately cca’s have nothing to do with how long the battery will last for a duration of time. Cranking batteries are not made to be drained and charged over and over. You can use it, but it will go bad much quicker than a deep cycle.
Higherd CCA better longer last. Bough 4. 880CCA..for 20ft pontoon. 1 main.motor 2* 12x2.24 v. Troller. 4th spare add on lights radio. Extra 12v pump for sink add on. Pluse 12/24v. Solar panel. Of 100watts works dam. Good worth invest up.grade.
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You could buy an out board for less than all that, prolly a lol trolling motor too
Matthew Chehardy probably, but then I couldn’t fish at any of the electric reservoirs in my area without removing the outboard.
Are they rechargeable?
If so how do you recharge them
Absolutely. I have what’s called an “onboard charger” on the boat. It permanently connects to 3 batteries, and I plug it in when parked to charge.
You could get any normal 12v battery charger/tender for these. Minimum 3amp (preferably 5amp-12amp). Usually they have alligator clips you put on the battery and plug into the wall.
Lol funny question
The cost of Lifepo4 are coming down. They are a lithium iron battery that's far safer and more rugged than lithium ion. They are half the weight of lead acid for the same capacity, they are rated for 2000 cycles compared to 500 cycles plus you can use 80 to 90% of the capacity without degradation compared to only 50% for lead acid. If you shop around online, you can get a 12 volt 100 AH in the $500 range. Even cheaper if you're willing to build your own from cells. I'm running an old 20 lb thrust Pflueger trolling motor on a kayak with two paralleled 12 volt 16Ah lifepo4 batteries that only weigh 4 lbs each. The batteries cost me $45 each.
This is good info. That’s already a huge decrease in price from a few years ago, and much better performance
Sounds like your using the 16Ah Miady lifepo4 lithium battery.
I have daul cell. Cca 880. $110.00. Sams best ever 2x12-24v troller. Then 12v motor 4th.12v.cca880. Thenhave spare 12v solar 100watts. Then 2x12v24v.solar.troller . Over yr! Sams deepcycle price cant beat $110.00 w/exchange.
In 20ft pontoon boat even have ac/Dc.convertor ice maker machine .
Do you charged for every trip?
Yes, lead cell batteries do not like staying at low voltage. Is best to charge them and leave on tender as soon as you get back.
I also charge for every trip because it’s my main source of propulsion. I don’t want to find myself 3 miles from the ramp with not enough power to get back.
@@SammyBenitez How long does the charge on the battery last?
@@cesarmejia6964 BIG EDIT* (it bought this was from my lithium video)
my motor pulls 55ah at full speed. These are rated for 105ah, but you don’t want to drain them much past 50%. So really only have about an hour at full throttle, or significantly more if you run at lower speeds.
I just edited my comments, I didn’t realize this was in regards to my lead cell battery video and not lithium.
I can't say your choice is wrong in a battery but Lithium are getting cheaper and will likely last up to 10 years so the price per year is likely lower for Lithium. Also consider again the weight because your heavier lead acid is having to push that extra weight over several hours so a less powerful and smaller lighter Lithium would be required to replace 1 lead acid battery. But again no wrong answer just different options to consider. I really need a second battery for my trolling motor but I had just recently bought a new lead acid battery and feel I need a second 12v battery as I troll a lot and use my trolling motor in anchor mode a lot. I want to buy a Lithium but I don't believe it would work well in parallel with a lead acid so I may be forced to buy another lead acid for compatibility purposes.
I use a 14v Lithium 50 AH to power my electronics including my livescope and it has never gone below 13.1 volts and I expect it will last as long as I can stand to fish in a day. Not so with my trolling motor battery.
So I actually did purchase lithium batteries a couple years later, which I made a video on as well. But I still ran three 12v lead cell Duracells with three 12v Ampere Time Lithiums. Kept the lithiums in series for my 36v motor and paralleled two lead cells for a longer 12v run time, and one solely for electronics.
a 12V 100ah Lithium is $799 Lol.
Several options in the $400 range for 100ah now
Ionic lithium batteries $450 a piece, spend the little extra you’ll save a lot of money and weight
At the $450 price tag you're at half the Ah capacity. Comparing apple to apple you're more like $850 a battery. So in reality the "spend a little extra" is going from $600 for his setup to $5,100. Not really worth it.
If you fish alone then put the batteries and gas tank in the front.....great to keep your front down
Is it rechargable??
Yes, you can use a lead cell battery charger. Frequently sold at auto stores and places that sell boating supplies
Just use a car battery a solar panel and charge your battery afterwards
It’ll work, the life of the car battery will be depleted much faster than a deep cycle would.
Car batteries are made to give a lot of cranking amps at one time, deep cycle is made to be drained slowly.
You speak of cost of lithium, yet you dont mention the cycle life. Lithium's cost is spread out over the longer time frame, so, you have to think long term. I got mine at seaquest battery and got the lowest price and lightest lithium of anybody.
Because this was about a budget/value option for lead cells. I have another video about the lithium batteries I ended up buying on my channel and the benefits
2024 price has doubled lol
I have three duracell deep cell batteries. After a year a use. I won't buy them again.
These are not maintenance free, hopefully you kept up with them. From keeping them charged, to not over draining them, and keeping them topped off with water there are a few things that could go wrong if you let them.
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Deep cyc 880cca. At sams w/exchange $120.00