I am very happy to be a part of older generation that was able to enjoy great games made by enthusiasts in early 2000 with little to no monetization. Young and future generations are so screwed.
First Mafia, Battlefield 2, Call of Duty 2 (and 4), Doom ( 1 2 3), Gothic.. and many more. Games made, so taht when you pay a full game, you get a full game. You can buy expension packs, but they were mostly worth it. I am glad I grew up in that time as well. First games I played were on DOS btw, yes I am old...
It's just depressing seeing a majority of the new games nowadays. Especially sucks when some titles have so much potential but are in the wrong hands and are riddled with microtransactions or terribly made.
You're absolutely right about the 100 hours mark - they lure you in with free to play elements and you get invested in your character and when you reach end game, they will make you want to pay to progress your character simply because almost everything will cost 'diamonds' or whatever it's called in this game. I don't mind spending $10 a month end game but unfortunately, games like this tend to cost way, way more to maintain.
I miss when games where pay a set amount for the product. Then later on pay for dlc expansions. Before you buy it you can experience it as a demo. This was a great set-up. I think on mobile you should be able to play through the first part without paying. If they make it free to play its just that and you pay for expansions to the game or cosmetics after you invested time into the base of the game.
The whole game is completely free to play. I'm up to hell 1+ paragon and you unlock way more free content. The only aspect of "pay to win" is the legendary crests, however I don't think it's too pay to win as legendary gems have a small chance of dropping in vault raids and dungeons anyways and also all your armour drops get buffed as you level - keeping your combat rating on par with the content they throw at you at higher levels. You're all just whining about something that won't impact your gameplay unless you sink 200+ hours into it. Will you?
@@domL2507 If you're not playing competitively, then who cares? Pay to win only matters if you're doing PvP, because it gives an unfair advantage. Otherwise you can just grind and play normally.
In the game development jargon, this game is the prime example of what we call an "honey trap". It's actually really hard to make a good honey trap in video games. The principle is to put enough honey (good stuff) to make sure the player have fun rolling in it, but not too much as to allow him/her to have its fill and move on elsewhere before being trapped into the vicious circle of investing into the product. Diablo Immortal does it quite perfectly as in it doesn't just allow player to invest hundreds of hours for free, but can make the process "fun". Those who feel like other are wrongly complaining about it are usually those who are still in the "rolling in the honey" phase. It doesn't mean that they will be part of those who will put money into the game, but they are still potential buyers even if they are currently highly doubtful of it. It's the concept of the honey trap as to make the game endearing enough for people to think they believe in something only just to slowly crawl into their temptation. It always starts as "I'll just put 5$ here. I haven't paid anything yet and It's not like I paid 60$ (or more) for it anyway." and then "Another 5$... no make it 10$. I get more from putting 10$ anyway!" and 2 years later from that point, the amount invested is usually equals or higher than that of a regular priced game. It's a vicious circle that doesn't start when you launch the game, but when you get trapped by the fun you had playing the game. It's the exact same trap principle used by casino, but in this case the player has an absolute 0 chances of actually getting their investment back outside of the game.
@@dgage1776 There's no "real gamers" anymore. There's only "gamers with enough self-control" and "gamers without enough self-controls". You could also replace the word "control" with "patience" as it's 99.9% of the time related and a good (in terms of business model) honey trap will make use of the player's patience as one of the many ways of crawling into his/her temptation. I could write a wall of text about how the market and explain the market's various points (saturation, peak, evolution, etc.) There are multiple reasons (not just $$$) as to why games with badly-viewed business models (like the Honey Traps model) keep appearing instead of just following the popular trend of the Cosmetic-Only approach (like Path Of Exile) or the Time-Skipping Approach (like Warframe). In fact, that's mostly the reason why PoE and Warframe still exists today, ironically.
I like how everyone else tries to outdo each other on the internet on being louder and whinier but Gameranx always keeps it real, this is why your channel keeps growing and everyone else is desperate for clicks.
The game really sucks tho. Being a long time Blizzard Supporter, i do infact understand people complaining about this. Gameplay sucks, it feels like watered down Diablo 3, with bad Mobile Controls (decent in comparison i guess) Pay to Win lures you in at first seeing nonexistent, than endgame you need to invest. The Lore absolutely sucks, no doubt. Not even a debate really. Also Blizzard has made a joke out of themselves with this and the way they teased and released this.. And then the most obvious. Nobody asked for this. Diablo 4 is what was asked for, Diablo 4 is what they used to make people care about the announcement even remotely, and Diablo Immortal is what they did Annonce then. If they just casually mentioned, yo where going to make a mobile game, nobody would have cared as much. Also it feels like the lack of Content for the way better Diablo 3, as well as the non existing sequel of Diablo 4 / an alternative PC-Product (aka a "Real Game, most people really dont care about mobile, me included, wouldnt even given this game a try if it wasnt a Diablo game" ) in a similiar fashion is related to the Production of this game. The critic really is justified. Sometimes over the top, but justified nonetheless, this really is a fail in my opinion
I am not joking people have calculated that to max out your character it will cost you around 100 000 dollars. Yes that's right, not 10 , not 100, not 1000, not 10 000, but 100 000 dollars. This is the most shameless immoral money grab ever seen. Any one who starts giving them money is stupid and deserve to lose money and also you are helping to finance this shameless practise. Dont play this game don't spend money on it. Trust me. You Cant even play it as free to play , because the game is made in a way that you simply can't get anywhere if you don't spend money.
As an older gamer, I stopped playing FTP games a long time ago. When I first started you could genuinely compete in these types of games but this changed over time. It got to the stage where games became specifically designed around the shop & this is just another. No thanks, not a chance in hell I will ever play this in this present format.
this is why I advocate for subscription games. sure some minor services and cosmetics you might not get with a sub but all the important content you get access to and I haven't seen a game charge more than $15 a month. idk about the rest of the states in my country but my current state has a lot of jobs starting off at around $16/hr as well, so basically one hour of work a month is all you need to afford the game making it much more affordable as well and creates a somewhat steady stream of income for the developers as well.
You can literally play the entire campaign no problem completely free. Then leave? I mean nothing is making you dive into endgame, have a good time and move on...
Im skeptical you guys even covered this BUT I love that you guys are upfront about everything. Honestly even if there's a solid early game here everyone should boycott this title because it's super predatory and for sure this will ruin thousands of addiction prone people's lives and only inches us closer and closer to every dev adopting this hellscape.
WORD! It makes me sick how corporations pull every trick, hire every lawyer, use every loophole, lobby every politician, bend every law, and exploit every oversight to drain us dry, with no morale, ethos, or any slightest sent of good intentions. The only thing that counts, is profit, leaving dead bodies, poisoned communities, and exploited war thorn countries behind. As long as the shareholders are happy, aka my dick gets sucked tonight. It's quite interesting to look back and inquire about what kind of mega projects past and present societies would pour their resources into. As in the different Pyramids around the world, cities, water irrigation systems, and roads. Well in modern history it's a weapon system. Not a super skyscraper, not a green mega city, not a transcontinental transit system, not a way to green the desert, use solar power or fight world hunger, no the F 32 Lightning 2 cost an estimate of 1.5 TRILLION dollars to develop. What does that tell us about a society that spends more energy, ingenuity, time, and manpower in its mutual, complete, and many times over self-destruction than ever in human remembrance? What does that tell us about our leaders? About our opinion-makers? Lobbyists? Media outlets, all over the world??? It would be so nice to just shut it all off, just for a day. nobody logs in, nobody turns on the tv, nobody goes to his non-health or security-related job, nobody shots in the wars... yes, the system would collapse to a big part, but it would only restart with our help, not our blood... dreams
I appreciate the unbiased review, and I like your guys' content. But I feel like you guys didn't go into nearly enough detail or do your research regarding the monetization practices of this game, and just how bad it really is. It is absolutely egregious, even by mobile game standards. P2W Players will have literal years of progress over F2P players all because they were willing to shell out some money. The end game gets extremely grindy from what I've heard and seen, and this is where the MTX gets pushed even more and more. From rough estimates it would take 10 years, yes you read that right: YEARS, not hours, not days, not weeks, 10 YEARS, to fully max out ONE character with all of the required 5-star Gems on F2P. Or, you could just pay anywhere from 100-500K USD and skip all of that to max out your ONE character. Like I said this is shameful even by mobile game standards. We can't allow this to be "normal" because it's not, and shouldn't be. They keep moving the needle further and further to try and normalize this sick behavior, and prey on people who are prone to gambling addictions. Highly suggest checking out Bellular News' videos on the game if you're at all interested in the topic because his team has gone into great detail at the absolute lengths that Blizzard has gone to make this game a shameless cash-grab. Really heartbreaking to see this go this way because I'm a genuine fan of the Diablo IP, and this feels like a sick and utterly complete bastardization of it. I hate to see all of these talented developers and game designers work go to waste, because by all accounts it is a SOLID game when not considering the MTX. It has been so egregiously monetized because of greedy Bobby Kotick and his goons want to squeeze the general population for everything that we're worth. Please boycott this game, or - at the very least, don't give them a dime of your money. Rant end 😮💨
I still don't get why people complaine about monetization, you can do the entire campaign as F2P with no wall or limits, I am in endgame leveling fast, in Path of exile it's impossible to play without paying for extra inventory slots something I never had problems with here, so far I had so many fun hours in Diablo Immortal that even if they say you have to pay to continue I would still be content unlike let's say Final Fantasy were you buy the bloody game then expansions then you still need to freaking buy subscription to access the content you already paid for FFS and it's combat is not even fun and the level design is bland and boring at best
@@kamelkadri2843 your comment comes off as flat out dishonest. with POE the currency tab just keeps things tidy and is FAR from required in any way. diablo immortal is the definition of pay to win, sure you can play for free and maybe in 5-6 years your character will be where a whale got to with gamble boxes in a few weeks edit: nobody is judging you or anyone that wants to play this and finds it fun. but its a blatant and shameless cash grab if you're going to be honest about it.
@@kamelkadri2843 I agree.. for the moment. I’m having a great time, and haven’t spent a dime. I don’t care if it take 50 years. If im having fun, who cares? Granted I’m not understanding the games fully and the gear. But I usually buy stuff in games for cosmetics. The game doesn’t’ force you to buy. Maybe once I play enough I might change my mind, but I’ll have choice to stop playing. I’m not sure why people complain about everything. Just don’t buy it or don’t play the game. Simple.
@@Food4thought1234 complaining spreads awareness in a sense, helps your fellow diablo fans not actually get predatorily targeted by this games monetisation system
I played the beta on Android when it was available for Australia a few months ago and while I did enjoy it and got to around the level 50 - 60 mark, I found my progress just halted because in order to proceed any further, it wanted me to play through a raid. Couldn't find anyone to join in and lost interest in trying, ultimately. Then the beta ended shortly afterwards and my character and progress was just deleted entirely rather than carried over to the full game. This was mentioned when I started the beta and again when it finished so it wasn't just something I'd find out later down the track. The only thing that was actually carried over was the $8 I paid for the battle pass so if I wanted to jump back in, I wouldn't have to pay for it again. Honestly I'm not going to bother with it now. Was fun while it lasted
Yeah that got changed entirely 🤣 people well into paragon and never spent a dime and most people are finding gems without using crests , i have 9 total gems in 4 days without spending or battlepass and 2 from crests at level 52
I am not joking people have calculated that to max out your character it will cost you around 100 000 dollars. Yes that's right, not 10 , not 100, not 1000, not 10 000, but 100 000 dollars. This is the most shameless immoral money grab ever seen. Any one who starts giving them money is stupid and deserve to lose money and also you are helping to finance this shameless practise. Dont play this game don't spend money on it. Trust me. You Cant even play it as free to play , because the game is made in a way that you simply can't get anywhere if you don't spend money.
@@tanelviil9149 You have to remember that this is for ONE character. So for your alts, you have to spend another 100k for every other class you want to play.
@Captain WARLORD In some for other games that I've played, your progress from the beta will actually carry over to the main game so I was just disappointed that I put all that time into it only to hit a roadblock and have everything deleted. I understand that it happens of course. Now that I've found out that was changed, I just no longer want to put in all that effort again to reach that level once more and see what else awaits afterwards
You guys have NO CLUE, this game is developed by netease, a Chinese mobile game company very famous for its extreme aggressive monetization strategy. There is a famous saying in Chinese gaming community: if you play tencent games, you pay to become stronger, if you play netease games, you pay to have a chance to become stronger. On the other hand, some ppl have some the math, you are probably looking at hundreds of dollars per month at end game. In most cases, “free” stuff are often the most expensive stuff in reality.
I love that the game is like a good mobile version of Diablo 3. I'll play it while it feels fun. With any damn luck the devs realize to ease on the monetization and move to cosmetics that I could buy. That I sometimes do with games I love, but I don't pay unneeded battle passes and things.
I"m a lifer when it comes to diablo. I've been playing since the release of the first game (almost 26 years ago, holy crap I'm old!); both online and solo. I love the story. I don't play games to make the most badass armor. I play for the story and the gameplay style. I've not played Immortal yet (no interest in the mobile version, waiting for the pc version), but it really sounds a lot like Rappelz by your description. Not a complete turnoff, but I'm going to walk into the game with reservations, obviously. But I'm glad you gave me a head's up.
I feel like it's important to say that Diablo Immortal has been banned in The Netherlands and Belgium for containing loot boxes. I couldn't find it on the App Store. Just leaving it here.
The game was not released in these two countries as it would with their loot box regulations. This should be good enough sign to stay clear of this game. It is shame publisher's greed destroys solid game. I would pay 20 - 30 EUR/USD for the game without those FtP crao.
I am not joking people have calculated that to max out your character it will cost you around 100 000 dollars. Yes that's right, not 10 , not 100, not 1000, not 10 000, but 100 000 dollars. This is the most shameless immoral money grab ever seen. Any one who starts giving them money is stupid and deserve to lose money and also you are helping to finance this shameless practise. Dont play this game don't spend money on it. Trust me. You Cant even play it as free to play , because the game is made in a way that you simply can't get anywhere if you don't spend money.
@coolaccountname Maybe I'll check it out someday. I don't even think I have my copy anymore. I had heard that the game got better but I only played it on release on PC.
I am not joking people have calculated that to max out your character it will cost you around 100 000 dollars. Yes that's right, not 10 , not 100, not 1000, not 10 000, but 100 000 dollars. This is the most shameless immoral money grab ever seen. Any one who starts giving them money is stupid and deserve to lose money and also you are helping to finance this shameless practise. Dont play this game don't spend money on it. Trust me. You Cant even play it as free to play , because the game is made in a way that you simply can't get anywhere if you don't spend money.
I totally agree with you on this - prefer to pay $20 up front and get an entire game with no microtransactions. But for some reason people who play mobile games are MUCH more willing to spend so it’s surprising it took this long for Activision to cash in with mobile Diablo
I am not joking people have calculated that to max out your character it will cost you around 100 000 dollars. Yes that's right, not 10 , not 100, not 1000, not 10 000, but 100 000 dollars. This is the most shameless immoral money grab ever seen. Any one who starts giving them money is stupid and deserve to lose money and also you are helping to finance this shameless practise. Dont play this game don't spend money on it. Trust me. You Cant even play it as free to play , because the game is made in a way that you simply can't get anywhere if you don't spend money.
I would pay $29.99 for an option to play the game and receive pay to win mechanic via quest reward instead of outright buying it. Needs to be account wide and must have some sort of offline support.
I mentioned in another post on another video that if this was $30-40 and they removed the p2w stuff I would be on board. I am a fan of Diablo, and more Diablo is a good thing for me. Just not in this particular scenario with how this is structured. I like some of the things the game does, it’s really unfortunate they went so far down this road with it.
Despite it's terrible announcement years ago, it does actually look fun to play. But from what I've been hearing, there's layers of unreasonable monetization in here especially towards the end game. I'm not a fan of having any sort of progress influenced by how much money I've spent in the game, so that's a pass from me.
The vids you see are based from beta , none of the vids feature the Dev and tester chat . They revamped system and entirely changed gem stats and how many variables. There are 4-6x the total gems and they now come in . 01 % incremental differences . So those idiots with under 10 gems and only 5 increments figured out it costs 100k , there is easily 40+ gems in 200 increment variants and upgrading doesn't cost premium any more . The actual p2w number is likely in the millions of dollars and thats if you are lucky as hell. I'm on Cult of Damnation server in Echo Diablo TH-camr clan , our server been laughing at p2w stupidity since launch , already one guy dropped 10k he claims he has a pile of level 1 trash gems 🤣
Jake my dude ur always such a great reviewer and this is so well written and more importantly your absolutely right your not alone with your opinions so don't stop expressing them there not falling on deaf ears
I’d legitimately pay $30-$40 for a version like this that goes from mobile to pc with only cosmetic items for monetization. I’m not on board with what they’re doing.
p2p model on mobile isn't a thing for more than a decade now. those kind of monetization will only alienate the game from the target market, 99% of mobile user will and only play your games if it's free.
A person that knows classic Diablo games (even Diablo 3 in it's current state) will immediately notice how greedy and stingy the game is with it's loot. And for a looter game it is a pretty big flaw. Pretty sure everyone knows about atrocious monetization, too. And having a good at it's core game with decent production just makes this whole thing even more repulsive as all the work to create the assets, to develop the gameplay loop etc. is undone by publisher's greed.
Yeah, this is what I was thinking would happen. Good story, good combat, then hits you hard for endgame. $10 a month may be a good boost for awhile, the cost will go up for sure. Games like FFBE, now you’re expected to spend about $100 a month (and they get plenty of people who do) just to be in the top 10% of ranked events. I’d say even after a few months and a healthy endgame player base, you still can’t accurately say how bad it can be. Because the developers can always start to bleed the players.
@@weirdbutgood7810 You absolutely can and will have a great experience. The p2w part is mostly unoticeable until you reach lvl 60 and want some top gear.
You can but you will start seeing some walls at 30, 35, 43, and 51. That’s as far as I am right now. Content is locked behind levels, so you have to grind. Obviously better gems makes for an easier grind. It’s fun but the p2w aspect is becoming more and more apparent to me as I level. But yes, you can do it all for free, and it’s a fun game.
I am not joking people have calculated that to max out your character it will cost you around 100 000 dollars. Yes that's right, not 10 , not 100, not 1000, not 10 000, but 100 000 dollars. This is the most shameless immoral money grab ever seen. Any one who starts giving them money is stupid and deserve to lose money and also you are helping to finance this shameless practise. Dont play this game don't spend money on it. Trust me. You Cant even play it as free to play , because the game is made in a way that you simply can't get anywhere if you don't spend money.
Im like level 50. I spent like 40 bucks just because I wanted a full set of legendary runes super early and cosmetics. It wasnt even necessary to do that. I have a second f2p character that runs through content mainly because I know HOW to play diablo. Im always geared up. Ppl complaining about microtransactions full of crap.
Got to level 43 in almost 3 days just by playing the story for maybe 2-3 hours a day, the only annoying part were the quests that force you to reach a certain level in order to progress but leveling was fast with bounties and rifts so idk it didn't feel like I needed to pay for anything yet, idk how much until end game stuff or how much gameranx played but in the video I don't see any end game gameplay, it wasn't even above lvl35
I am not joking people have calculated that to max out your character it will cost you around 100 000 dollars. Yes that's right, not 10 , not 100, not 1000, not 10 000, but 100 000 dollars. This is the most shameless immoral money grab ever seen. Any one who starts giving them money is stupid and deserve to lose money and also you are helping to finance this shameless practise. Dont play this game don't spend money on it. Trust me. You Cant even play it as free to play , because the game is made in a way that you simply can't get anywhere if you don't spend money.
@@tanelviil9149 false. I only plan on playing the story. I can do that for free. If youre not worried about getting min/maxxed, you can play for free. Hell if you don't care how long it takes you to min/max, you can play for free. It's only if you want to do so as quick and efficient as possible where you need to start paying.
I'm playing this completely F2P on PC with a controller and it seems really fun. I tried it on my 2020 Kindle Fire 10 HD and it was a bit laggy. Sure, they try to upsell you for certain stuff, but it's easy to tell it no. I'm only about 10 hours in so far though, so that part might change.
I've been playing the diablo series since the first game on PC and playstation and honestly this game looks like a ton of fun. I had never even seen footage of the game before today because I don't have a device capable of playing it unfortunately. Lately I've been playing D2R on my series s, and D3 on my switch so I've been in to all things diablo. Also the graphics and visual style of this game looks absolutely stunning in my opinion. I really wish there was a way I could play this on one of my consoles. My galaxy phone type doesn't support it and I don't have a PC so I'm SOL for now.
I got to lvl 33 without spending any money and didn't feel any need to so far. Even though the suggestion to do so is everywhere. I was expecting to get my ass kicked or to get annoyed in some other way, but so far it's not so bad by mobile standards. Might be a total shitshow in the endgame, who knows, i'll probably get bored before i reach it.
@@ok_listen In my experience it becomes apparent quite early in mobile titles. Either the difficulty becomes unbearable without putting in the money or it wastes your time.
@@Kasper0822 you will be surprised about the predatory design behind the p2w model, and this is no exclusion. You can't be hooked without spending a good chunk of time playing with the illusion that you don't need to spend.
@@ok_listen If you can beat the game without feeling the need to buy micro transactions, then the game is not pay-to-win. Incentivizing micro transactions in the end game is not something that should be applauded, but we shouldn't misrepresent something just because we dislike it. I haven't beaten the game, nor have I gotten very far. So I cannot give an educated opinion on what this game is. These are just my thoughts on the matter.
I played this on PC with KBM and it worked pretty well, never really had issues with anything. Though I will say the UI seems like a mess, like you get awards on one screen, then you earn rewards on another, that'll earn you XP on the Battle Pass and the XP from the Battle Pass gets you gems - like it's just waaay too much going around the UI to claim stuff from the different pools of materials, currency, upgrades, etc. At least that's how I feel. I stopped playing around lvl 20, just didn't really care for the setting personally. But it's built pretty solid. If this game was cloned by Marvel and had superheroes, I'd be much more interested thematically to continue.
I played diablo 1 back in my ps1 That thing took a memory card almost all to itself Didn't get 2 or 3, this is my first diablo since It plays really well, progression is nice I don't like how everything is automated through battle ratings. No need to check your armor, make decisions, if number bigger and arrow up, you equip it You can't even build your stats, it's all on the gear Maybe when I start getting overlapping legendaries there will be choices on the special skill, but so far nothing has been worth skipping the jump in stats Otherwise it's pretty fun as f2p so far, we'll see when we get to endgame
So... really, no tree? Just an 🔺️... I guess that makes sense for mobile, but I imagine it is the same for PC. It just sounds so un-Diablo. But there are gems so, there are sockets(?)
@@favoritemustard3542 there are sockets, but so far all equips had enough slots to fit everything You can't set up your build stats on lvl up like diablo 1 There are skills, and you can set 4, but so far I was lucky enough to get equipment for stuff I was already using I didn't interface with it much Was rogue, I left out smokescreen and turret, stuff that is more reactive Will have to check other skills later
@@LarkyLuna well I bought Diablo twice, after a scratched disc, went on to D2 & its expansion... & if another old-schooler is enjoying this, there's a good chance I will too. So, thanks for the info!
I love the gameplay (especially for the Monk), for most of the characters I've played - Barbarian, Druid, Crusader and Monk. If only someone would rewrite all the older games (D1/D2/D3) using this engine, that would be awesome. I really don't care that much for spending money nor does it bother me that much. I'll just grind away on all those games for hours and hours...
I have always loved diablo, and I really enjoy this game, I do wish the PC UI was different, but other than that I enjoy it. I personally haven't and don't plan on buying anything in this game, and I just ignore all the microtransactions. At the same time I am a diablo player who either plays the campaign with friends (and only the campaign) or I play alone and don't usually touch rifts too much, so I don't find myself having many issues.
A lot of people get tricked into buying something once they get invested and hit a paywall, but I'm sure you are the exception who doesn't fall for these mind tricks. Just be careful because blizz pulled out the big guns for this mobile cashcow
I am not joking people have calculated that to max out your character it will cost you around 100 000 dollars. Yes that's right, not 10 , not 100, not 1000, not 10 000, but 100 000 dollars. This is the most shameless immoral money grab ever seen. Any one who starts giving them money is stupid and deserve to lose money and also you are helping to finance this shameless practise. Dont play this game don't spend money on it. Trust me. You Cant even play it as free to play , because the game is made in a way that you simply can't get anywhere if you don't spend money.
@@ricardo8268 yeah, I've gotten pretty good in f2p games with being able to not give into that shit or just dropping the game if it stops being fun without it, if I'm enjoying it then all's good, the second I feel I'm not, I'm out
The 100K thing sounds made up and unnecessary. Just play the game. Enjoy the lore. Play with friends. Beat it and move on 😂 It's one Diablo game that shouldn't matter forever. It's just a slice of more D3 to hold people over til D4 Plus it's a mobile game so I don't get why people are taking it that seriously. I don't personally plan on spending a dollar. Though if it was just an expansion to D3 or something I would've just bought that
Over the past decade people have become obsessed with being "the best" or "maxed" in games. This was never the case in the mmorpg scene. Most players were just enjoying the games regardless of their progress. I keep this in mind in regards to pay to win games. You don't have to spend thousands of dollars. You don't have to be the best. You don't have to be maxed. Just hop on, enjoy the game and when your bored hop off. It's not that serious. Back in diablo 2, I played it for years and was never "good". I never had maxed gear and the best rune words yet I still had a blast and it's one of my favorite games of all time. I don't understand people's obsessions with maxing. If you're maxed what's left to do anyways?
TLDR- The monetization system in this game is the most egregious I have ever seen even considering some of the nastiest microtransaction free to play titles I've touched or seen. This isn't just about "maxing" like you've framed it, its much more insidious a system than I think you fully understand. Non TLDR: Some short background on my experience with Diablo Immortal: I've grinded to Paragon 16 on a Necro without spending any money on anything but the battle pass so my present "investment" is 5 dollars. My toon's combat score is roughly around 900. I have no X out of 5 star gems, but I've been grinding with what little crests I've gotten and most of my extra unwanted gems are being sold on the marketplace for platinum so I can just outright trade my way up. This is possible but its extremely grindy and today is the first day I have outright just refused to play the game. Now for my response to your comment. "This has never been the case in MMORPG scene" What do you mean? Those games literally are all about being "Maxed." The endgame content in WoW, Rift, Guild Wars, Guild Wars 2 FF11, FF14, Destiny, Destiny 2 etc. is literally all about maxing your gear and centering your legendary equipment around your build so you can complete higher challenge raid/instance/dungeon content. There are entire strategies players have built out to fully power level their toons and maximize their gear/equip score and they've existed now for decades starting back before WoW ever even game out. Not everyone goes about playing for the endgame but to act as though most people who've dedicated years of their life to MMOs aren't trying to maximize their character is kind of a farce. Think Mythic Raids or in Diablo 3 Elder Rifts. In the case of D2 for example the ladders in D2 were centered around first to finish content. Those leaderboards in DI? Those are centered around how the majority of the ladder playerbase played Diablo 2 just like seasonal content in D3 is centered around that same premise. They did this in D3 because its what PLAYERS wanted out of the endgame experience. In DI the monetization is beyond insidious because people were able to dedicate ONLY TIME to this before, they spent their 40 or 20 or whenever they bought the D2 battle chest and then they were able to try to push for weekly or monthly ladders in the first to finish level 99 uber portals etc. Now they've taken that format and forced you to pay to play, not pay to win, and they've done this in such a way that its predatory. I don't actually have a problem with the game pushing microtransactions, its a fact of the mobile gaming life. I have a problem with the way that they are implemented. Soon enough when players reach paragon 30 and hit Hell 2 difficulty I guarantee they are going to reach a hard wall where content is unplayable without at least spending some money. This is not to mention the fact this game will have SEASONS like D3 does meaning the content you could give in and pay a little for now MIGHT be completely useless. I say might because we aren't there yet and I am trying to be fair. To compare this a bit to Genshin Impact I think is a fair bet because the Eternal Orbs are basically a 1-1 in real world money valuation to Primogens(the pay for currency in genshin) and the Elder Rifts in DI are essentially toon draws you have to play a minigame before you draw a toon and instead of toons you get gems. The thing about Primogens? You can acquire them through playing. I played a fair bit of Genshin when it came out and I enjoyed my time with it without spending money. I drew a couple five star toons I drew good equipment drops and I made it fairly far before having to pay out anything. I also was incredibly lucky in my draws. Which brings me to another point. The pity system in DI is fucking Egregious. Every 50 runs. That's it. Now you might think "Okay that means every 50 rifts I do I get a gem right?" Wrong. Every 50 Rifts that you SLOT A LEGENDARY CREST into. It has no bearing on the amount of crests you slot in and you could in theory (and people have. Streamers have done this already) spend 25 dollars a rift for 50 ten crest rifts you can spend 1,250 dollars before you get the RNG to get a single solitary five star gem. These five star gems aren't just something you want, its something that is REQUIRED for PVP content or end game high difficulty PVE content. There are people who've spent money to the tune of 10 grand already without reaching a single five star gem that their build uses and this is not to mention that the gems dropped aren't AUTOMATICALLY 5 star even if they are "5 star" gems because you're dropping "X out of 5 star" meaning even if you get the gem you want you probably need to upgrade it to being 5 star from whatever star it is, requiring you TO GET THE SAME GEM. No. Just fucking no. This isn't just about "Maxing" a character. This is content that is GATED BEHIND this monetization. The Pity system in Genshin Impact is much much more forgiving. I forget the actual numbers but I know for an absolute fact it was not this bad at all. This should NOT be seen as okay because it just isn't okay. This is predatory and DESIGNED specifically around lifting thousands of dollars out of peoples pockets and is one of the worst if not the absolute worst examples of "Free to play" content I have ever seen in my life. This is **WORSE** in **EVERY** **POSSIBLE** **WAY** than any gacha title I've ever seen or played or heard of and it absolutely needs to be PILEDRIVEN into the dirt and publicly shamed by every person who has any self respect and loves the Diablo titles.
well the real truth that nobody likes to hear is that people are trading real life for gaming, so they put all the effort on the game and get obsessive about it. it used to be just a game, people would play a bit for fun then go back to the real world, now its the other way around. and there is money in this, companies are making sure the games hooks more and more, and people are becoming zombies, mostly young men.
@@glumphyStoned TLDR: Lolwhut? This is no different from people obsessing over physical sports and humans have done that for centuries. Non TLDR: The weird boomer takes aren't "Truths" they're just bad reasoning. Would you have said this about everyone on a bus reading the paper in 1950? Probably not. Do you think everyone in 1950 read the paper for the news? No. No they did not. Entertainment changes with the ages. This isn't a new phenomenon. People in older generations spent a majority of their time after work watching television, before that they did so with radio. Some of them spent a LOT of their time, even during work hours, listening to ball games on the radio while waiting for customers. How is this any different? People aren't being "Zombified" and "Mostly young men" also just isn't true. The gaming sphere we're talking about here is mobile games which actually have a much much MUCH larger female representation than some other more ensconced genres. I think you're either wildly uninformed on the topic or you're pining after a time period that didn't exist. People have for the most part always worked so they could have things they want. These things are often entirely superfluous and unnecessary for survival. These things are focuses that allow human beings to deal with the real world you love so much. This is no different from any hobby, and its also good to note now that the professional E-sports scene also makes this a viable opportunity to do this as a job. Would you deny a baseball player or a football player the opportunity to compete on the professional level if they were good enough and trained for it? No, I don't think you would. NB4 "Real sports are different." No they aren't. They are perfectly in line with the same rulesets, ludological structure (meaning having the structure of being a "game"), strategic thinking and so forth. No one is being made zombies any more than they were made zombies by the constant influx of television media content that came before it, or the cultivated obsession that people have with a sport they aren't even good at or playing. And this obsession with sports is pushed just as hard if not harder by society and advertisement industry in general. Look at how many television commercials for sports related media are constantly pushed. You think there isn't money in an industry that pays its players exorbitant amounts to the tune sometimes in the hundreds of millions? How do you think that money is made? Out of thin air? No and its certainly not made through event tickets either. Its made predominantly through merchandising which is just as predatory as the monetization in mobile games. You think that jersey is actually worth 250 dollars? This is just a really weird response mate.
Genshin Impact as a game it doesn’t get worse when you invest couple of bucks like 5$ to million$. What happens is, the experience gets worse. When you drop any kind of money, the game becomes too easy and you start one shotting every mob in the game (except spiral abyss.) So technically the f2p experience is a lot better. The game remains challenging enough with the limited amount of characters you get from the base game currency.
The F2P experience isn't OBJECTIVELY better though. Mihoyo throws in loads of limitations to get you to feel like you need to pay. You're stuck with a small roster of characters that lack variety. You have to be careful with your pulls, and even then, you don't realize how unfun a character may be until hours after playing with them. Pulling for a character that you thought would be fun only to find out later that their playstyle is too one dimensional or boring is libel to make people quit. Especially so when you just used your very valuable primos. loads of progression is locked behind artificial lengthening, where you login for an hour a day then logout when you've done your "dailies." The game actively doesn't want you playing it at later stages, it seems like. Genshin is a great game that is completely destroyed by its monetization scheme. (And I'm not advocating for P2P either, seriously, just don't even play Genshin)
@@Yarsig bro that's not true. I have a lot of 4 stars and a couple of 5 stars and I've not spent a dime. You don't know how to gain primogems in game. It's as simple as that. Also if you buy the battle pass and the welkin package which is 5 dollars per months, and if you grind the daily quests. You'll get enough to make you feel like you don't even need to spend money
I love the rational you use for poorly balanced gameplay. Almost all end game or recent content does expect you to have reached a point where you can keep up, and they've balanced it around paying or getting lucky. Some segments are also clearly made to be played using the new character, as they will have an insane advantage. You gotta be living under a rock to not have heard of all the issues new players face when it comes to the difficulty curve the game takes. If you started early it wasn't noticable but now it almost feels like new players are hitting a brick wall and can never catch up, unless they pay. Especially with their engery system that limits how much you can do in a day. Free to play games don't have to be pay to win to be awesome, and they should never make players feel that they need to pay to mearly keep up with upcoming content. Want an actually good free to play game? See Path of Exile for that.
If you want to stay at a power level that can one shot everything without having to invest too much then don’t level the world, problem is that also limits to what your characters can really do at higher levels so you basically have to advance everything to the point of every enemy being a bullet sponge to also be allowed to advance your characters. Sum it up: Genshin is fun until you hit adventure 24 and finish the story to see what the game is really like.
@@williamsonah5667 Go lie elsewhere. I'm not even talking about 4 stars. The best F2P accounts of today that have played since launch are laughably bad when compared to even a moderate spender of Genshin.
I am super trying to understand why so many people are angry on Diablo Immortal, they call it a pay to win game...OK..SO WHAT?! I don't care because I would never be number one in the game even it was not a pay to win game, this is also not my purpose in life, I just want to have fun and for the moment I really do, remember sometimes the journey is more pleasurable then destination.
I'm thinking of buying Diablo 2 or Diablo 3 on PS4. Any advice? The two similar games I've played are Dragon Age Inquisition and Curse of the Dead Gods. And I know Diablo is "different" than those. But, is it worth playing Diablo 2 or 3 for the single player experience, in mid 2022?
I baught the battle pass with the extra for 3 reasons: 1. The gameplay of this game for a mobile is the best ( with paying/free), 2.if u played Diablo 2,3 , it’s looks like mobile version of Diablo 3 with new content 3.i felt that I must show appreciation to the developers that worked on this game (even after bad reputation of blizzard), coz the game ACTUALLY VERY Good and feels like a break point and a new standard in mobile games.
They had to stall for a while so that the stink from that press conference would go away and so that they can make it look like even more of a shoot mobile game. Oh and craft a better way to hook marks into using mommy's credit card to beef up their character.
Damn, I love diablo, played it on pc, console and switch. Got a level 70 paragon 250 hardcore character I spent hours on. This game feels fun, got to level 42 so far, haven't spent any money but it's unnecessary monetization. The ui is awful sometimes and can clog your screen but other than that it's a fun little game if you don't take it too seriously. Worrying about end game things though, and I doubt I'll have multiple characters like on other accounts because I don't think it will be as easy or fun
super fun game, but i hit the wall today as free2play, lvl 60(5) no more battle point XP bonus and the xp rate is slooww, i guess the battle point cap for free players resets every monday, in the meanwhile you can play another character,
I play Diablo 3 hardcore seasons, I am interested in it for about 3 weeks when each season starts... I downloaded Immortal, tried a necro cause usually I don't play one cause they are so squishy. I did enjoy the game, crashed a few times but whatever it's beta and obviously made for mobile or a controller, pc was not the main goal here. Blizzards character creation is more fleshed out here than any other game, I like that. Combat feels a bit clunky, but I think that's more to do with I'm playing on a pc port of the game. If I hit a pay wall I will just uninstall... Honestly I'm confused cause in the D3 community we've been saying we'd pay for stash and cosmetics for a while and.... nope and here this is on the extreme end of things. Oh well
I'm a hardcore Path of Exile player, so something tells me this would just cheese me off. That being said, it does look decent. Probably doesn't have the depth I'm used too and the P2W crap is insufferable. Totally agree with your take to just charge me 20 bucks or whatever and give me the damn content.
I uninstalled after a couple hours of immortal. Whats your favorite PoE build? I understand so little about the game I just stick to arc witch every season because it's easy.
@@garrettcrowl1294 I'm probably the wrong guy to ask because I only do melee builds, as I'm a complete masochist. Right now, I've been tinkering with a Perforate/physical gladiator that I like. If you do want to try melee I would recommend Cyclone at the moment.
I gave it the benefit of the doubt at first. Rolled a sorc, only got to like level 10 before putting it down. I might just be getting old, or it might be my disdain for modern day Blizzard but I couldn't find the want or the joy to keep playing it. Then I got an unwelcome push notification "come back and slay some demons." Not today, Beelzaboot. I had to uninstall.
No money spent yet at level 48 - and tbh I am really enjoying it. Still, like you I'd preferred to have paid an upfront amount for a complete experience for the peace of mind that the game wouldn't try to rip me off later
Gotta say Diablo immortal is the first "AAA" mobile game that I felt comfortable playing with touch screen. It's even smooth and responsive. PUBG, cod mobile and apex legends really doesn't translate well to mobile touch controls unless you are that weirdo who plays claw or other insane finger "configurations".
@@necrophiliacin_lace628 it's nice hearing a good game get well deserved praise, and it helps appreciate them more cuz sometimes they mention stuff I didn't even notice
I am not joking people have calculated that to max out your character it will cost you around 100 000 dollars. Yes that's right, not 10 , not 100, not 1000, not 10 000, but 100 000 dollars. This is the most shameless immoral money grab ever seen. Any one who starts giving them money is stupid and deserve to lose money and also you are helping to finance this shameless practise. Dont play this game don't spend money on it. Trust me. You Cant even play it as free to play , because the game is made in a way that you simply can't get anywhere if you don't spend money.
@@tanelviil9149 I'm already level 32 and I haven't spent anything but a few hours of time on it. You can do anything a p2w player can, but slower. Idk why anyone would ever spend such a ridiculous amount of money on a mobile game but you really don't have to
You didn't really mention this but is there an actual story in the game? Or do I need to wait for Diablo 4 for that? Gameplay is fine and all but I still like some decent lore.
This game is just a slap in the face of everybody who plays it. Disgusting monetization. Sure its F2P... so I get the cash shop is there. But the way they make the end-game is so bad and PVP is not normalized like in Lost Ark is just horrible. They're moving the goal posts once again with lootboxes. Can't wait for more countries to ban this gambling stuff like Belgium and the Netherlands did.
To be honest, I'm pleasantly surprised with the presentation and gameplay of this game. I'm only a casual player so I guess I won't mind the microtransactions too much. But it feels pretty similar to Diablo 3, so much so that I wish this was just another expansion. Then we wouldn't have waited as long for as we did for the mobile implementation.
If you dont mind the monetization model then okay, just dont bother wasting money on the disgusting microtransaction infested store that these corporations want you to pour out money into their pockets and essentially ruining other future projects down the line because of the support on monetization
I really enjoyed this game. I'm not a fan of the pc version. It doesn't feel right. It could have been a Diablo 3 expansion and a revamp of stuff. There is so much you can do in this game, and yeah the microtransactions suck, but I haven't spent a dime and I'm enjoying it.
I think that hacking community should get together and make this game not pay to win. I’d be down to build a website for it. I doubt we could get any multiplayer functions working though
Take this into consideration though. Path of exile is also free, all micro transactions are cosmetic ONLY, and also gameplay-wise better than every single diablo game combined. At that point why play this unless you want a mobile game
@@jamesriddle1949 Thats fair, though that really only comes into play on your 10th character and you need more room to store unique armor because horder mentality
ive been playing a lot with my friends and we've been having a good time, two of us are level 50 necromancers and the other two are little mages at like level 20 and 40. and from what i can tell, the progression gets so tedious and slow after the level 45 mark, and to get builds going you really need to buy crests or from the market to get the gems that make the builds viable. i may not play for a long time after level 60 on my necromancer simply for that reason, unless they change it to get the legendary crests easier to get, or just take that whole system away to begin with, because i just stopped playing genshin impact for the same reason, gacha is no something i want to deal with, and thats what the gems feel like to me, even going as far to have a pity system to get a legendary gem. other than all of that, and how slow end game feels to get to, its alright. like you said, just a mobile diablo game
Thanks for sharing your experience. I played diablo 3 on ps3 years ago. Which Diablo would you recommend ? I‘d like to play one of them on pc and am unsure which of them is worth getting
@@platzu8061 the common consensus is that Diablo 3 and Diablo 2 resurrection are the two to be playing right now, and I agree with that myself. Diablo three is a really good game, and I also played it a long while ago, but I've not played 2 resurrection
@@platzu8061 I would recommend 2 Resurrection since you have played 3. It has kind of a slow start though so be prepared to struggle somewhat in the beginning
One of the best review channels on youtube, thanks for this. I wasn't gonna touch it because of the monetization but if people aren't freaking out a month from now I'll definitely give it a shot.
What I'm curious about are lootboxes. You don't mention them, but ActiBlizz has stated that the game won't be available in the two countries that have laws that define lootboxes as gambling. So are there outright lootboxes that you can buy/open with real money? If not, then ActiBlizz is deliberately trying to force two countries to change their laws in favor of predatory business practices.
I own D1, D2, D2:R, and D3. So far I like it, it does what it says on the tin. I think all of the hate comes from the tone deaf reveal they did - something that will take a very very long time for them to shake. The game's good, give it a try. I haven't spent a dime on it but may pay to expand inventory space (PoE does the exact same thing). Yes it may take 100k to max your char without playing, but then what is the point because leveling/grinding _is_ the game.
This actually looks like a lot of fun! I'll give it a try but will *absolutely* not spend anything on micros. At least not until *waaaay* down the line if they rework it after fan backlash like the companies always do. They try a *super* greedy microtransaction model first, so they can "scale back" after backlash to seem like "good guys" to the fans, when the model they "scale back" to usually isn't much better.
The fact that you know the bullshit they're pulling but still gonna try the game and are even thinking of spending later down the line is wild to me. This is why Blizzard and these other companies are behaving the way they are. People are still enabling them.
I am not joking people have calculated that to max out your character it will cost you around 100 000 dollars. Yes that's right, not 10 , not 100, not 1000, not 10 000, but 100 000 dollars. This is the most shameless immoral money grab ever seen. Any one who starts giving them money is stupid and deserve to lose money and also you are helping to finance this shameless practise. Dont play this game don't spend money on it. Trust me. You Cant even play it as free to play , because the game is made in a way that you simply can't get anywhere if you don't spend money.
What I'm looking forward to from Diablo 4 is any update at all. In the meantime, is it at all possible to finish Diablo Immortal without spending literally anything?
I'm having a lot of fun with it. I guess I'm desensitized to F2P stuff? There's SO MANY mobile games that do this nowadays, some much, much more predatory than others. I've gotten used to it over time-- and since I have a pretty long work schedule, most of the time mobile is the only way I get to scratch my gaming itch. Hopefully the progression won't be hindered by monetization, but even WoW has gotten cash heavy over the past few years, what with WoW Tokens and stuff.
Years of gameplay. The whales will float to the top then rot when they run out of things to buy. The rest of us will grind our way up along with everyone else.
Thanks for the levelheadedness in your video. Monetization methods aside, Immortal seems like a solid game so far for the scope that the project is aiming for. I don't see myself wanting going too deep into it yet. I am more looking for D4. Personally, it's more a scaled down D3, for obvious reasons. It is what it is now. Personally what I missed is the skill rune system. Not the exact thing per se, but the ability to change how your skills work. The linear upgrade of gems/armor/etc seems boring. I guess I've seen too much of these. As far as the monetization model, I think the company could do worse. To me, the annoying part of the product is just too much clicking/tapping around the menus. Anyways, take it or leave it.
Everything was on point except for saying that Genshin has a point around the 100 hour mark that forces you to pay to get ahead. That's just not true man. You can totally get 5 star characters and weapons, it's just that you get more chances for them with the battle pass, and seeing how they've had reruns of several characters it's very possible and attainable to get the ones you want. All the actual story content is lightly gated by level restrictions, but spending money doesn't level up your adventure rank faster at all.
Got to Paragon lvl22 without spending any cash and then Boom! I was informed that I hit a "battlepoints" cap. (at this stage in the game you need to earn battlepoints to progress in levels since trying to grind xp the old fashioned way by just killing mobs is insane and would take forever...)so yeah , ultra monetization hell.....
I think it's just sad that Blizzard went this way with the Diablo franchise. Cannot be played offline, microtransactions, free to play, etc.. Had they taken the route of a single player game with online features with PvP and co-op much like the recent FromSoftware's Elden Ring they could have easily revived this franchise.
Blizzard went this way because complaining in a comment section doesn't matter when people still spend money. Basically actions speak louder than words
just so you guys know, theres a confirmed chinese backdoor in the pc version. which really just means its in every version but you cant open the task manager on mobile. so unless you want your social credit score to plummet, i wouldnt even download it to try it if i were any of you. but then again most of you have tiktok so i guess noone cares...
What do you guys that believe this actually think is going to happen to you? How does your social credit score affect you if you don't buy things directly from China? The answer is... it doesn't, because that doesn't exist in America. So unless you're planning on going to buy a house in Beijing any time soon... you'll be ok. Aaand if they did implement this in America, which they probably already do secretly, it wouldn't be done through the Chinese govt. American tech companies would have their own American version of it... and they'd already have all your info from every other piece of technology you use. They would not require Diablo Immortal for this. Ya'll thinking too big and too small at the same time.
good review, but not for me you're part of the problem if you support P2W also D3 was pretty terrible so why would I want a mobile version of it I'll stick to D2R
Bruh seems to me that Genshin Impact and Lost Ark sure made a solid step in veering the MMO genre into the abyss, hearing how now Diablo Immortal also has your purchases, for example skins, character locked and not account bound, and has the grindfest start rising exponentially the more time you spend on it.
I would enjoy if you look and stream your opinion on the Google Play Store rating VS Apple Store rating. Apple seems to have frozen ratings after day 1 to keep the 5 Stars. Is thes legal? Are they getting paid by blizzard or just greedy because they get a share from sales?
"do you guys not have phones?"
pretty much exactly what we expected.
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Hello Gameranx
plot twist I actually don't have phones
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Sorry I don't play mobile games some of them really suck
I am very happy to be a part of older generation that was able to enjoy great games made by enthusiasts in early 2000 with little to no monetization. Young and future generations are so screwed.
First Mafia, Battlefield 2, Call of Duty 2 (and 4), Doom ( 1 2 3), Gothic.. and many more. Games made, so taht when you pay a full game, you get a full game. You can buy expension packs, but they were mostly worth it. I am glad I grew up in that time as well. First games I played were on DOS btw, yes I am old...
It's just depressing seeing a majority of the new games nowadays.
Especially sucks when some titles have so much potential but are in the wrong hands and are riddled with microtransactions or terribly made.
sad thinking almost all of these studios went bankrupt
they can always go back and play the old games if they don't like the new ones. at least they'll never be able to take those away form us.
There's a few good modern games but yeah overall the new games feel like they have no soul and are made strictly to gouge your wallet.
You're absolutely right about the 100 hours mark - they lure you in with free to play elements and you get invested in your character and when you reach end game, they will make you want to pay to progress your character simply because almost everything will cost 'diamonds' or whatever it's called in this game. I don't mind spending $10 a month end game but unfortunately, games like this tend to cost way, way more to maintain.
But after 100 hours of having fun, don't they deserve it?
Someone calculated that it would take around $100,000 to fully upgrade a character.
100 hours for free isn't enough 😭
@@Zoli.V lmfao nobody "deserves" my money
100 hours is worth about $50.
I miss when games where pay a set amount for the product. Then later on pay for dlc expansions. Before you buy it you can experience it as a demo. This was a great set-up. I think on mobile you should be able to play through the first part without paying. If they make it free to play its just that and you pay for expansions to the game or cosmetics after you invested time into the base of the game.
I also have a similar opinion. I would prefer the game sold in sort of episodes. or in case of open world types, sold in map regions as dlc
The whole game is completely free to play. I'm up to hell 1+ paragon and you unlock way more free content. The only aspect of "pay to win" is the legendary crests, however I don't think it's too pay to win as legendary gems have a small chance of dropping in vault raids and dungeons anyways and also all your armour drops get buffed as you level - keeping your combat rating on par with the content they throw at you at higher levels. You're all just whining about something that won't impact your gameplay unless you sink 200+ hours into it. Will you?
@@999t00 it literally is the definition of PTW
@@domL2507 If you're not playing competitively, then who cares? Pay to win only matters if you're doing PvP, because it gives an unfair advantage. Otherwise you can just grind and play normally.
@@999t00 So it’s pay to win, why are you defending pay to win?
In the game development jargon, this game is the prime example of what we call an "honey trap".
It's actually really hard to make a good honey trap in video games. The principle is to put enough honey (good stuff) to make sure the player have fun rolling in it, but not too much as to allow him/her to have its fill and move on elsewhere before being trapped into the vicious circle of investing into the product. Diablo Immortal does it quite perfectly as in it doesn't just allow player to invest hundreds of hours for free, but can make the process "fun".
Those who feel like other are wrongly complaining about it are usually those who are still in the "rolling in the honey" phase. It doesn't mean that they will be part of those who will put money into the game, but they are still potential buyers even if they are currently highly doubtful of it. It's the concept of the honey trap as to make the game endearing enough for people to think they believe in something only just to slowly crawl into their temptation.
It always starts as "I'll just put 5$ here. I haven't paid anything yet and It's not like I paid 60$ (or more) for it anyway." and then "Another 5$... no make it 10$. I get more from putting 10$ anyway!" and 2 years later from that point, the amount invested is usually equals or higher than that of a regular priced game. It's a vicious circle that doesn't start when you launch the game, but when you get trapped by the fun you had playing the game. It's the exact same trap principle used by casino, but in this case the player has an absolute 0 chances of actually getting their investment back outside of the game.
Whack. Real gamers hate that shit
@@dgage1776 There's no "real gamers" anymore. There's only "gamers with enough self-control" and "gamers without enough self-controls".
You could also replace the word "control" with "patience" as it's 99.9% of the time related and a good (in terms of business model) honey trap will make use of the player's patience as one of the many ways of crawling into his/her temptation.
I could write a wall of text about how the market and explain the market's various points (saturation, peak, evolution, etc.) There are multiple reasons (not just $$$) as to why games with badly-viewed business models (like the Honey Traps model) keep appearing instead of just following the popular trend of the Cosmetic-Only approach (like Path Of Exile) or the Time-Skipping Approach (like Warframe). In fact, that's mostly the reason why PoE and Warframe still exists today, ironically.
@@creationsmaxo I assume they keep making them because people keep coming back
Lol honey trap. You either been watching a lot of spy movies or archer.
Fun is the investment
When you see the different areas, try not to think that staff from D3 was moved years ago to do this instead of a good 2nd expansion
You're acting as if this isn't just a reworked port of D3
Oh hell no it is not, is another crap indeed, but it is another, so..
@@youknowwho257 I see you've failed to recognize all the D3 assets
@@heyapoc even D4 seems that actually, from what's been shown already
I like how everyone else tries to outdo each other on the internet on being louder and whinier but Gameranx always keeps it real, this is why your channel keeps growing and everyone else is desperate for clicks.
The game really sucks tho. Being a long time Blizzard Supporter, i do infact understand people complaining about this.
Gameplay sucks, it feels like watered down Diablo 3, with bad Mobile Controls (decent in comparison i guess)
Pay to Win lures you in at first seeing nonexistent, than endgame you need to invest.
The Lore absolutely sucks, no doubt. Not even a debate really.
Also Blizzard has made a joke out of themselves with this and the way they teased and released this..
And then the most obvious. Nobody asked for this. Diablo 4 is what was asked for, Diablo 4 is what they used to make people care about the announcement even remotely, and Diablo Immortal is what they did Annonce then. If they just casually mentioned, yo where going to make a mobile game, nobody would have cared as much.
Also it feels like the lack of Content for the way better Diablo 3, as well as the non existing sequel of Diablo 4 / an alternative PC-Product (aka a "Real Game, most people really dont care about mobile, me included, wouldnt even given this game a try if it wasnt a Diablo game" ) in a similiar fashion is related to the Production of this game.
The critic really is justified. Sometimes over the top, but justified nonetheless, this really is a fail in my opinion
You're just watching the wrong people
Outsidexbox is also very entertaining and they keeps it real as well
I am not joking people have calculated that to max out your character it will cost you around 100 000 dollars.
Yes that's right, not 10 , not 100, not 1000, not 10 000, but 100 000 dollars. This is the most shameless immoral money grab ever seen.
Any one who starts giving them money is stupid and deserve to lose money and also you are helping to finance this shameless practise.
Dont play this game don't spend money on it. Trust me. You Cant even play it as free to play , because the game is made in a way that you simply can't get anywhere if you don't spend money.
Depends on the host, falcon is 50-50, while jake hassolid content
As an older gamer, I stopped playing FTP games a long time ago. When I first started you could genuinely compete in these types of games but this changed over time. It got to the stage where games became specifically designed around the shop & this is just another. No thanks, not a chance in hell I will ever play this in this present format.
Albion online is a great mmo in my opinion and is an amazing game
Totally agree! If a game has anything that can be bought with real money that gives an advantage, no thanks! Too old for this shit
@@destinysgheiza5884 not optimised for Android Devices
this is why I advocate for subscription games. sure some minor services and cosmetics you might not get with a sub but all the important content you get access to and I haven't seen a game charge more than $15 a month. idk about the rest of the states in my country but my current state has a lot of jobs starting off at around $16/hr as well, so basically one hour of work a month is all you need to afford the game making it much more affordable as well and creates a somewhat steady stream of income for the developers as well.
You can literally play the entire campaign no problem completely free. Then leave? I mean nothing is making you dive into endgame, have a good time and move on...
Im skeptical you guys even covered this BUT I love that you guys are upfront about everything. Honestly even if there's a solid early game here everyone should boycott this title because it's super predatory and for sure this will ruin thousands of addiction prone people's lives and only inches us closer and closer to every dev adopting this hellscape.
WORD! It makes me sick how corporations pull every trick, hire every lawyer, use every loophole, lobby every politician, bend every law, and exploit every oversight to drain us dry, with no morale, ethos, or any slightest sent of good intentions. The only thing that counts, is profit, leaving dead bodies, poisoned communities, and exploited war thorn countries behind. As long as the shareholders are happy, aka my dick gets sucked tonight.
It's quite interesting to look back and inquire about what kind of mega projects past and present societies would pour their resources into.
As in the different Pyramids around the world, cities, water irrigation systems, and roads.
Well in modern history it's a weapon system. Not a super skyscraper, not a green mega city, not a transcontinental transit system, not a way to green the desert, use solar power or fight world hunger, no the F 32 Lightning 2 cost an estimate of 1.5 TRILLION dollars to develop.
What does that tell us about a society that spends more energy, ingenuity, time, and manpower in its mutual, complete, and many times over self-destruction than ever in human remembrance? What does that tell us about our leaders? About our opinion-makers? Lobbyists? Media outlets, all over the world???
It would be so nice to just shut it all off, just for a day. nobody logs in, nobody turns on the tv, nobody goes to his non-health or security-related job, nobody shots in the wars... yes, the system would collapse to a big part, but it would only restart with our help, not our blood...
dreams
Is this already the norm?
It isn't like big studios hasn't put predatory microtransactions in AAA games already
No thanks. I'm enjoying the game. If someone else can't handle the MTX, that's on them.
@@ccouch713
It isn’t like the OP said that either
@Chingchong Monster I'm not spending anything so idrc. All I care about is having fun. Which I'm doing. I love having fun for free
I appreciate the unbiased review, and I like your guys' content. But I feel like you guys didn't go into nearly enough detail or do your research regarding the monetization practices of this game, and just how bad it really is. It is absolutely egregious, even by mobile game standards. P2W Players will have literal years of progress over F2P players all because they were willing to shell out some money. The end game gets extremely grindy from what I've heard and seen, and this is where the MTX gets pushed even more and more.
From rough estimates it would take 10 years, yes you read that right: YEARS, not hours, not days, not weeks, 10 YEARS, to fully max out ONE character with all of the required 5-star Gems on F2P. Or, you could just pay anywhere from 100-500K USD and skip all of that to max out your ONE character. Like I said this is shameful even by mobile game standards. We can't allow this to be "normal" because it's not, and shouldn't be. They keep moving the needle further and further to try and normalize this sick behavior, and prey on people who are prone to gambling addictions.
Highly suggest checking out Bellular News' videos on the game if you're at all interested in the topic because his team has gone into great detail at the absolute lengths that Blizzard has gone to make this game a shameless cash-grab.
Really heartbreaking to see this go this way because I'm a genuine fan of the Diablo IP, and this feels like a sick and utterly complete bastardization of it. I hate to see all of these talented developers and game designers work go to waste, because by all accounts it is a SOLID game when not considering the MTX.
It has been so egregiously monetized because of greedy Bobby Kotick and his goons want to squeeze the general population for everything that we're worth. Please boycott this game, or - at the very least, don't give them a dime of your money. Rant end 😮💨
I still don't get why people complaine about monetization, you can do the entire campaign as F2P with no wall or limits, I am in endgame leveling fast, in Path of exile it's impossible to play without paying for extra inventory slots something I never had problems with here, so far I had so many fun hours in Diablo Immortal that even if they say you have to pay to continue I would still be content unlike let's say Final Fantasy were you buy the bloody game then expansions then you still need to freaking buy subscription to access the content you already paid for FFS and it's combat is not even fun and the level design is bland and boring at best
@@kamelkadri2843 your comment comes off as flat out dishonest. with POE the currency tab just keeps things tidy and is FAR from required in any way. diablo immortal is the definition of pay to win, sure you can play for free and maybe in 5-6 years your character will be where a whale got to with gamble boxes in a few weeks
edit: nobody is judging you or anyone that wants to play this and finds it fun. but its a blatant and shameless cash grab if you're going to be honest about it.
@@kamelkadri2843 I agree.. for the moment. I’m having a great time, and haven’t spent a dime. I don’t care if it take 50 years. If im having fun, who cares? Granted I’m not understanding the games fully and the gear. But I usually buy stuff in games for cosmetics. The game doesn’t’ force you to buy. Maybe once I play enough I might change my mind, but I’ll have choice to stop playing. I’m not sure why people complain about everything. Just don’t buy it or don’t play the game. Simple.
@@Food4thought1234 complaining spreads awareness in a sense, helps your fellow diablo fans not actually get predatorily targeted by this games monetisation system
RIP original Diablo 2 Battlenet. That is the game that truly taught me what it means to grind.
I played the beta on Android when it was available for Australia a few months ago and while I did enjoy it and got to around the level 50 - 60 mark, I found my progress just halted because in order to proceed any further, it wanted me to play through a raid. Couldn't find anyone to join in and lost interest in trying, ultimately. Then the beta ended shortly afterwards and my character and progress was just deleted entirely rather than carried over to the full game. This was mentioned when I started the beta and again when it finished so it wasn't just something I'd find out later down the track. The only thing that was actually carried over was the $8 I paid for the battle pass so if I wanted to jump back in, I wouldn't have to pay for it again. Honestly I'm not going to bother with it now. Was fun while it lasted
Yeah that got changed entirely 🤣 people well into paragon and never spent a dime and most people are finding gems without using crests , i have 9 total gems in 4 days without spending or battlepass and 2 from crests at level 52
Can confirm that the raids are still a shit show...
I have finally managed to do the first raid but it took many many attempts of queueing.
I am not joking people have calculated that to max out your character it will cost you around 100 000 dollars.
Yes that's right, not 10 , not 100, not 1000, not 10 000, but 100 000 dollars. This is the most shameless immoral money grab ever seen.
Any one who starts giving them money is stupid and deserve to lose money and also you are helping to finance this shameless practise.
Dont play this game don't spend money on it. Trust me. You Cant even play it as free to play , because the game is made in a way that you simply can't get anywhere if you don't spend money.
@@tanelviil9149 You have to remember that this is for ONE character. So for your alts, you have to spend another 100k for every other class you want to play.
@Captain WARLORD In some for other games that I've played, your progress from the beta will actually carry over to the main game so I was just disappointed that I put all that time into it only to hit a roadblock and have everything deleted. I understand that it happens of course. Now that I've found out that was changed, I just no longer want to put in all that effort again to reach that level once more and see what else awaits afterwards
You guys have NO CLUE, this game is developed by netease, a Chinese mobile game company very famous for its extreme aggressive monetization strategy. There is a famous saying in Chinese gaming community: if you play tencent games, you pay to become stronger, if you play netease games, you pay to have a chance to become stronger. On the other hand, some ppl have some the math, you are probably looking at hundreds of dollars per month at end game. In most cases, “free” stuff are often the most expensive stuff in reality.
I love that the game is like a good mobile version of Diablo 3. I'll play it while it feels fun. With any damn luck the devs realize to ease on the monetization and move to cosmetics that I could buy. That I sometimes do with games I love, but I don't pay unneeded battle passes and things.
YES. It should just be cosmetics that we reaaally need to spend money on. I am willing to support free games through those, not p2w aspects
I"m a lifer when it comes to diablo. I've been playing since the release of the first game (almost 26 years ago, holy crap I'm old!); both online and solo. I love the story. I don't play games to make the most badass armor. I play for the story and the gameplay style. I've not played Immortal yet (no interest in the mobile version, waiting for the pc version), but it really sounds a lot like Rappelz by your description. Not a complete turnoff, but I'm going to walk into the game with reservations, obviously. But I'm glad you gave me a head's up.
I feel like it's important to say that Diablo Immortal has been banned in The Netherlands and Belgium for containing loot boxes. I couldn't find it on the App Store. Just leaving it here.
Sorry to say, not important at all, but we give ourselves the importance we think is important “shrugs”
APKPure, thank me later
The game was not released in these two countries as it would with their loot box regulations. This should be good enough sign to stay clear of this game. It is shame publisher's greed destroys solid game. I would pay 20 - 30 EUR/USD for the game without those FtP crao.
And that’s the way it should be all around the world !
Gambling for real life cash shouldn’t be allowed in any game.
@@akiotatsuki2621 yes it is important. very important
keep up the good work, your content is splendid
Thanks, will do!
Cringe lol
@@Idk_648 Nice username, really original
I am not joking people have calculated that to max out your character it will cost you around 100 000 dollars.
Yes that's right, not 10 , not 100, not 1000, not 10 000, but 100 000 dollars. This is the most shameless immoral money grab ever seen.
Any one who starts giving them money is stupid and deserve to lose money and also you are helping to finance this shameless practise.
Dont play this game don't spend money on it. Trust me. You Cant even play it as free to play , because the game is made in a way that you simply can't get anywhere if you don't spend money.
This review just made me want to play Diablo III again.
Thanks, Jake, for the subliminal nudge in the right direction. 😉
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Made me want to play Diablo II again.
I couldn't stand Diablo 3, especially the art style...
@coolaccountname No. Really I just lost interest in the Diablo franchise after vanilla D3.
@coolaccountname Maybe I'll check it out someday. I don't even think I have my copy anymore. I had heard that the game got better but I only played it on release on PC.
I am not joking people have calculated that to max out your character it will cost you around 100 000 dollars.
Yes that's right, not 10 , not 100, not 1000, not 10 000, but 100 000 dollars. This is the most shameless immoral money grab ever seen.
Any one who starts giving them money is stupid and deserve to lose money and also you are helping to finance this shameless practise.
Dont play this game don't spend money on it. Trust me. You Cant even play it as free to play , because the game is made in a way that you simply can't get anywhere if you don't spend money.
I'm in my 40's and played this until wee hours of the morning. Addicted to this game, just recently knew it was back..
I totally agree with you on this - prefer to pay $20 up front and get an entire game with no microtransactions. But for some reason people who play mobile games are MUCH more willing to spend so it’s surprising it took this long for Activision to cash in with mobile Diablo
I am not joking people have calculated that to max out your character it will cost you around 100 000 dollars.
Yes that's right, not 10 , not 100, not 1000, not 10 000, but 100 000 dollars. This is the most shameless immoral money grab ever seen.
Any one who starts giving them money is stupid and deserve to lose money and also you are helping to finance this shameless practise.
Dont play this game don't spend money on it. Trust me. You Cant even play it as free to play , because the game is made in a way that you simply can't get anywhere if you don't spend money.
I would pay $29.99 for an option to play the game and receive pay to win mechanic via quest reward instead of outright buying it. Needs to be account wide and must have some sort of offline support.
I mentioned in another post on another video that if this was $30-40 and they removed the p2w stuff I would be on board. I am a fan of Diablo, and more Diablo is a good thing for me. Just not in this particular scenario with how this is structured. I like some of the things the game does, it’s really unfortunate they went so far down this road with it.
$30-$40? The most recent figure is $110,000 to fully gear a character in this game.
The little Gameranx intro sound will always be satisfying
It's iconic at this point !
@gameranx love this "before you buy" series you guys do, i always check those before playing or buying any game
You`re the best reviewer man, you`re honest and the best on the site. Keep it up
Despite it's terrible announcement years ago, it does actually look fun to play. But from what I've been hearing, there's layers of unreasonable monetization in here especially towards the end game. I'm not a fan of having any sort of progress influenced by how much money I've spent in the game, so that's a pass from me.
The vids you see are based from beta , none of the vids feature the Dev and tester chat . They revamped system and entirely changed gem stats and how many variables. There are 4-6x the total gems and they now come in . 01 % incremental differences . So those idiots with under 10 gems and only 5 increments figured out it costs 100k , there is easily 40+ gems in 200 increment variants and upgrading doesn't cost premium any more . The actual p2w number is likely in the millions of dollars and thats if you are lucky as hell.
I'm on Cult of Damnation server in Echo Diablo TH-camr clan , our server been laughing at p2w stupidity since launch , already one guy dropped 10k he claims he has a pile of level 1 trash gems 🤣
I mean it's from Activision Blizzard. Take a wild guess ! You just know It's going to be filled with monetization and tons of micro transactions.
Jake my dude ur always such a great reviewer and this is so well written and more importantly your absolutely right your not alone with your opinions so don't stop expressing them there not falling on deaf ears
I’d legitimately pay $30-$40 for a version like this that goes from mobile to pc with only cosmetic items for monetization. I’m not on board with what they’re doing.
p2p model on mobile isn't a thing for more than a decade now. those kind of monetization will only alienate the game from the target market, 99% of mobile user will and only play your games if it's free.
This is my 1st ever Diablo game and I’m really enjoying it tbh, not spent a penny and really liking the game
whats your Ressonance? as f2p?
A person that knows classic Diablo games (even Diablo 3 in it's current state) will immediately notice how greedy and stingy the game is with it's loot. And for a looter game it is a pretty big flaw. Pretty sure everyone knows about atrocious monetization, too. And having a good at it's core game with decent production just makes this whole thing even more repulsive as all the work to create the assets, to develop the gameplay loop etc. is undone by publisher's greed.
I've never played a Diablo game, idk why they just don't "look" like something I would want to play
I said that for awhile too. Diablo 3 hits a special spot tho. Played this and Diablo 2 Resurrected and neither do much, but 3, so so good.
It’s the top down perspective isn’t it?
D2 Resurrected is a must-have experience
@@TheGozeraye I'm not sure. They just don't look fun at least when your watching
The game is p2w, you can't max out your character without spending. Just a cashgrab game imo
Yeah, this is what I was thinking would happen. Good story, good combat, then hits you hard for endgame. $10 a month may be a good boost for awhile, the cost will go up for sure. Games like FFBE, now you’re expected to spend about $100 a month (and they get plenty of people who do) just to be in the top 10% of ranked events.
I’d say even after a few months and a healthy endgame player base, you still can’t accurately say how bad it can be. Because the developers can always start to bleed the players.
Its a pretty solid game. It's diablo for sure. I fully enjoy the game. Its a chill diablo game.
@Helmut Salvatore Can I play it casually without spending too much money on it? I heard some reviews saying this game is too pay to win
@@weirdbutgood7810 You absolutely can and will have a great experience. The p2w part is mostly unoticeable until you reach lvl 60 and want some top gear.
You can but you will start seeing some walls at 30, 35, 43, and 51. That’s as far as I am right now. Content is locked behind levels, so you have to grind. Obviously better gems makes for an easier grind. It’s fun but the p2w aspect is becoming more and more apparent to me as I level. But yes, you can do it all for free, and it’s a fun game.
I am not joking people have calculated that to max out your character it will cost you around 100 000 dollars.
Yes that's right, not 10 , not 100, not 1000, not 10 000, but 100 000 dollars. This is the most shameless immoral money grab ever seen.
Any one who starts giving them money is stupid and deserve to lose money and also you are helping to finance this shameless practise.
Dont play this game don't spend money on it. Trust me. You Cant even play it as free to play , because the game is made in a way that you simply can't get anywhere if you don't spend money.
Im like level 50. I spent like 40 bucks just because I wanted a full set of legendary runes super early and cosmetics. It wasnt even necessary to do that. I have a second f2p character that runs through content mainly because I know HOW to play diablo. Im always geared up. Ppl complaining about microtransactions full of crap.
My favorite part of this review is how you pretended its an actual game! Very convincing!
@gameranx we did a dungeon together today, at least I was playing with a guy name Large. That's pretty cool.
Big fan of the channel.
Never forget the Cosby suite, also “you guys have phones right, and then the banning of a pro player for say Free Hong Kong
Got to level 43 in almost 3 days just by playing the story for maybe 2-3 hours a day, the only annoying part were the quests that force you to reach a certain level in order to progress but leveling was fast with bounties and rifts so idk it didn't feel like I needed to pay for anything yet, idk how much until end game stuff or how much gameranx played but in the video I don't see any end game gameplay, it wasn't even above lvl35
They mostly show early game footage because sometimes people don't want to be spoiled on the latter parts of the game.
They never show late game footage because spoilers
I hope you're trolling because if you're serious about it being afraid of spoilers of a f2p mobile game I pity you...
I am not joking people have calculated that to max out your character it will cost you around 100 000 dollars.
Yes that's right, not 10 , not 100, not 1000, not 10 000, but 100 000 dollars. This is the most shameless immoral money grab ever seen.
Any one who starts giving them money is stupid and deserve to lose money and also you are helping to finance this shameless practise.
Dont play this game don't spend money on it. Trust me. You Cant even play it as free to play , because the game is made in a way that you simply can't get anywhere if you don't spend money.
@@tanelviil9149 false. I only plan on playing the story. I can do that for free. If youre not worried about getting min/maxxed, you can play for free. Hell if you don't care how long it takes you to min/max, you can play for free. It's only if you want to do so as quick and efficient as possible where you need to start paying.
I'm playing this completely F2P on PC with a controller and it seems really fun. I tried it on my 2020 Kindle Fire 10 HD and it was a bit laggy. Sure, they try to upsell you for certain stuff, but it's easy to tell it no. I'm only about 10 hours in so far though, so that part might change.
I've been playing the diablo series since the first game on PC and playstation and honestly this game looks like a ton of fun. I had never even seen footage of the game before today because I don't have a device capable of playing it unfortunately. Lately I've been playing D2R on my series s, and D3 on my switch so I've been in to all things diablo.
Also the graphics and visual style of this game looks absolutely stunning in my opinion. I really wish there was a way I could play this on one of my consoles. My galaxy phone type doesn't support it and I don't have a PC so I'm SOL for now.
I read that to fully upgrade a character to the max costs £88,000 pounds, so $110,292 USD
I got to lvl 33 without spending any money and didn't feel any need to so far. Even though the suggestion to do so is everywhere. I was expecting to get my ass kicked or to get annoyed in some other way, but so far it's not so bad by mobile standards. Might be a total shitshow in the endgame, who knows, i'll probably get bored before i reach it.
P2W always pushes on the endgame, usually when the story is completed. It's a marketing technique.
@@ok_listen In my experience it becomes apparent quite early in mobile titles. Either the difficulty becomes unbearable without putting in the money or it wastes your time.
@@Kasper0822 you will be surprised about the predatory design behind the p2w model, and this is no exclusion. You can't be hooked without spending a good chunk of time playing with the illusion that you don't need to spend.
@@ok_listen If you can beat the game without feeling the need to buy micro transactions, then the game is not pay-to-win. Incentivizing micro transactions in the end game is not something that should be applauded, but we shouldn't misrepresent something just because we dislike it.
I haven't beaten the game, nor have I gotten very far. So I cannot give an educated opinion on what this game is. These are just my thoughts on the matter.
@@FKyoutubeSERIOUSLY If you can pay to have an advantage is by definition pay to win.
I played this on PC with KBM and it worked pretty well, never really had issues with anything. Though I will say the UI seems like a mess, like you get awards on one screen, then you earn rewards on another, that'll earn you XP on the Battle Pass and the XP from the Battle Pass gets you gems - like it's just waaay too much going around the UI to claim stuff from the different pools of materials, currency, upgrades, etc. At least that's how I feel.
I stopped playing around lvl 20, just didn't really care for the setting personally. But it's built pretty solid. If this game was cloned by Marvel and had superheroes, I'd be much more interested thematically to continue.
I played diablo 1 back in my ps1
That thing took a memory card almost all to itself
Didn't get 2 or 3, this is my first diablo since
It plays really well, progression is nice
I don't like how everything is automated through battle ratings. No need to check your armor, make decisions, if number bigger and arrow up, you equip it
You can't even build your stats, it's all on the gear
Maybe when I start getting overlapping legendaries there will be choices on the special skill, but so far nothing has been worth skipping the jump in stats
Otherwise it's pretty fun as f2p so far, we'll see when we get to endgame
So... really, no tree?
Just an 🔺️... I guess that makes sense for mobile, but I imagine it is the same for PC. It just sounds so un-Diablo.
But there are gems so, there are sockets(?)
@@favoritemustard3542 there are sockets, but so far all equips had enough slots to fit everything
You can't set up your build stats on lvl up like diablo 1
There are skills, and you can set 4, but so far I was lucky enough to get equipment for stuff I was already using
I didn't interface with it much
Was rogue, I left out smokescreen and turret, stuff that is more reactive
Will have to check other skills later
@@LarkyLuna well I bought Diablo twice, after a scratched disc, went on to D2 & its expansion... & if another old-schooler is enjoying this, there's a good chance I will too.
So, thanks for the info!
I was more than satisfied. I was actually super surprised by how much I enjoy this title. Especially having a few friends to Warband up with.
I love the gameplay (especially for the Monk), for most of the characters I've played - Barbarian, Druid, Crusader and Monk. If only someone would rewrite all the older games (D1/D2/D3) using this engine, that would be awesome. I really don't care that much for spending money nor does it bother me that much. I'll just grind away on all those games for hours and hours...
I have always loved diablo, and I really enjoy this game, I do wish the PC UI was different, but other than that I enjoy it. I personally haven't and don't plan on buying anything in this game, and I just ignore all the microtransactions. At the same time I am a diablo player who either plays the campaign with friends (and only the campaign) or I play alone and don't usually touch rifts too much, so I don't find myself having many issues.
Good luck trying to level those legendary gems to 5-star as a F2P gamer. Hint, you won't.
A lot of people get tricked into buying something once they get invested and hit a paywall, but I'm sure you are the exception who doesn't fall for these mind tricks. Just be careful because blizz pulled out the big guns for this mobile cashcow
I am not joking people have calculated that to max out your character it will cost you around 100 000 dollars.
Yes that's right, not 10 , not 100, not 1000, not 10 000, but 100 000 dollars. This is the most shameless immoral money grab ever seen.
Any one who starts giving them money is stupid and deserve to lose money and also you are helping to finance this shameless practise.
Dont play this game don't spend money on it. Trust me. You Cant even play it as free to play , because the game is made in a way that you simply can't get anywhere if you don't spend money.
@@ricardo8268 yeah, I've gotten pretty good in f2p games with being able to not give into that shit or just dropping the game if it stops being fun without it, if I'm enjoying it then all's good, the second I feel I'm not, I'm out
The 100K thing sounds made up and unnecessary.
Just play the game. Enjoy the lore. Play with friends. Beat it and move on 😂
It's one Diablo game that shouldn't matter forever. It's just a slice of more D3 to hold people over til D4
Plus it's a mobile game so I don't get why people are taking it that seriously.
I don't personally plan on spending a dollar.
Though if it was just an expansion to D3 or something I would've just bought that
Over the past decade people have become obsessed with being "the best" or "maxed" in games. This was never the case in the mmorpg scene. Most players were just enjoying the games regardless of their progress. I keep this in mind in regards to pay to win games. You don't have to spend thousands of dollars. You don't have to be the best. You don't have to be maxed. Just hop on, enjoy the game and when your bored hop off. It's not that serious. Back in diablo 2, I played it for years and was never "good". I never had maxed gear and the best rune words yet I still had a blast and it's one of my favorite games of all time. I don't understand people's obsessions with maxing. If you're maxed what's left to do anyways?
TLDR- The monetization system in this game is the most egregious I have ever seen even considering some of the nastiest microtransaction free to play titles I've touched or seen. This isn't just about "maxing" like you've framed it, its much more insidious a system than I think you fully understand.
Non TLDR:
Some short background on my experience with Diablo Immortal: I've grinded to Paragon 16 on a Necro without spending any money on anything but the battle pass so my present "investment" is 5 dollars. My toon's combat score is roughly around 900. I have no X out of 5 star gems, but I've been grinding with what little crests I've gotten and most of my extra unwanted gems are being sold on the marketplace for platinum so I can just outright trade my way up. This is possible but its extremely grindy and today is the first day I have outright just refused to play the game.
Now for my response to your comment.
"This has never been the case in MMORPG scene" What do you mean? Those games literally are all about being "Maxed." The endgame content in WoW, Rift, Guild Wars, Guild Wars 2 FF11, FF14, Destiny, Destiny 2 etc. is literally all about maxing your gear and centering your legendary equipment around your build so you can complete higher challenge raid/instance/dungeon content. There are entire strategies players have built out to fully power level their toons and maximize their gear/equip score and they've existed now for decades starting back before WoW ever even game out. Not everyone goes about playing for the endgame but to act as though most people who've dedicated years of their life to MMOs aren't trying to maximize their character is kind of a farce. Think Mythic Raids or in Diablo 3 Elder Rifts. In the case of D2 for example the ladders in D2 were centered around first to finish content. Those leaderboards in DI? Those are centered around how the majority of the ladder playerbase played Diablo 2 just like seasonal content in D3 is centered around that same premise. They did this in D3 because its what PLAYERS wanted out of the endgame experience. In DI the monetization is beyond insidious because people were able to dedicate ONLY TIME to this before, they spent their 40 or 20 or whenever they bought the D2 battle chest and then they were able to try to push for weekly or monthly ladders in the first to finish level 99 uber portals etc. Now they've taken that format and forced you to pay to play, not pay to win, and they've done this in such a way that its predatory. I don't actually have a problem with the game pushing microtransactions, its a fact of the mobile gaming life. I have a problem with the way that they are implemented. Soon enough when players reach paragon 30 and hit Hell 2 difficulty I guarantee they are going to reach a hard wall where content is unplayable without at least spending some money. This is not to mention the fact this game will have SEASONS like D3 does meaning the content you could give in and pay a little for now MIGHT be completely useless. I say might because we aren't there yet and I am trying to be fair.
To compare this a bit to Genshin Impact I think is a fair bet because the Eternal Orbs are basically a 1-1 in real world money valuation to Primogens(the pay for currency in genshin) and the Elder Rifts in DI are essentially toon draws you have to play a minigame before you draw a toon and instead of toons you get gems. The thing about Primogens? You can acquire them through playing. I played a fair bit of Genshin when it came out and I enjoyed my time with it without spending money. I drew a couple five star toons I drew good equipment drops and I made it fairly far before having to pay out anything. I also was incredibly lucky in my draws. Which brings me to another point. The pity system in DI is fucking Egregious. Every 50 runs. That's it. Now you might think "Okay that means every 50 rifts I do I get a gem right?" Wrong. Every 50 Rifts that you SLOT A LEGENDARY CREST into. It has no bearing on the amount of crests you slot in and you could in theory (and people have. Streamers have done this already) spend 25 dollars a rift for 50 ten crest rifts you can spend 1,250 dollars before you get the RNG to get a single solitary five star gem. These five star gems aren't just something you want, its something that is REQUIRED for PVP content or end game high difficulty PVE content. There are people who've spent money to the tune of 10 grand already without reaching a single five star gem that their build uses and this is not to mention that the gems dropped aren't AUTOMATICALLY 5 star even if they are "5 star" gems because you're dropping "X out of 5 star" meaning even if you get the gem you want you probably need to upgrade it to being 5 star from whatever star it is, requiring you TO GET THE SAME GEM. No. Just fucking no. This isn't just about "Maxing" a character. This is content that is GATED BEHIND this monetization. The Pity system in Genshin Impact is much much more forgiving. I forget the actual numbers but I know for an absolute fact it was not this bad at all. This should NOT be seen as okay because it just isn't okay. This is predatory and DESIGNED specifically around lifting thousands of dollars out of peoples pockets and is one of the worst if not the absolute worst examples of "Free to play" content I have ever seen in my life. This is **WORSE** in **EVERY** **POSSIBLE** **WAY** than any gacha title I've ever seen or played or heard of and it absolutely needs to be PILEDRIVEN into the dirt and publicly shamed by every person who has any self respect and loves the Diablo titles.
well the real truth that nobody likes to hear is that people are trading real life for gaming, so they put all the effort on the game and get obsessive about it. it used to be just a game, people would play a bit for fun then go back to the real world, now its the other way around. and there is money in this, companies are making sure the games hooks more and more, and people are becoming zombies, mostly young men.
Long time MMO player here. Being the best has been a huge part of the genre since Ultima Online, even moreso in EQ, and ultimate level in WoW.
@@glumphyStoned TLDR: Lolwhut? This is no different from people obsessing over physical sports and humans have done that for centuries.
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The weird boomer takes aren't "Truths" they're just bad reasoning. Would you have said this about everyone on a bus reading the paper in 1950? Probably not. Do you think everyone in 1950 read the paper for the news? No. No they did not. Entertainment changes with the ages. This isn't a new phenomenon. People in older generations spent a majority of their time after work watching television, before that they did so with radio. Some of them spent a LOT of their time, even during work hours, listening to ball games on the radio while waiting for customers. How is this any different? People aren't being "Zombified" and "Mostly young men" also just isn't true. The gaming sphere we're talking about here is mobile games which actually have a much much MUCH larger female representation than some other more ensconced genres. I think you're either wildly uninformed on the topic or you're pining after a time period that didn't exist. People have for the most part always worked so they could have things they want. These things are often entirely superfluous and unnecessary for survival. These things are focuses that allow human beings to deal with the real world you love so much. This is no different from any hobby, and its also good to note now that the professional E-sports scene also makes this a viable opportunity to do this as a job. Would you deny a baseball player or a football player the opportunity to compete on the professional level if they were good enough and trained for it? No, I don't think you would. NB4 "Real sports are different." No they aren't. They are perfectly in line with the same rulesets, ludological structure (meaning having the structure of being a "game"), strategic thinking and so forth. No one is being made zombies any more than they were made zombies by the constant influx of television media content that came before it, or the cultivated obsession that people have with a sport they aren't even good at or playing. And this obsession with sports is pushed just as hard if not harder by society and advertisement industry in general. Look at how many television commercials for sports related media are constantly pushed. You think there isn't money in an industry that pays its players exorbitant amounts to the tune sometimes in the hundreds of millions? How do you think that money is made? Out of thin air? No and its certainly not made through event tickets either. Its made predominantly through merchandising which is just as predatory as the monetization in mobile games. You think that jersey is actually worth 250 dollars? This is just a really weird response mate.
@@SolStone ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This. A thousand times this. Take my upvote sir I wish I could give multiple.
Genshin Impact as a game it doesn’t get worse when you invest couple of bucks like 5$ to million$. What happens is, the experience gets worse.
When you drop any kind of money, the game becomes too easy and you start one shotting every mob in the game (except spiral abyss.)
So technically the f2p experience is a lot better. The game remains challenging enough with the limited amount of characters you get from the base game currency.
The F2P experience isn't OBJECTIVELY better though. Mihoyo throws in loads of limitations to get you to feel like you need to pay.
You're stuck with a small roster of characters that lack variety.
You have to be careful with your pulls, and even then, you don't realize how unfun a character may be until hours after playing with them. Pulling for a character that you thought would be fun only to find out later that their playstyle is too one dimensional or boring is libel to make people quit. Especially so when you just used your very valuable primos.
loads of progression is locked behind artificial lengthening, where you login for an hour a day then logout when you've done your "dailies." The game actively doesn't want you playing it at later stages, it seems like.
Genshin is a great game that is completely destroyed by its monetization scheme. (And I'm not advocating for P2P either, seriously, just don't even play Genshin)
@@Yarsig bro that's not true. I have a lot of 4 stars and a couple of 5 stars and I've not spent a dime. You don't know how to gain primogems in game. It's as simple as that. Also if you buy the battle pass and the welkin package which is 5 dollars per months, and if you grind the daily quests. You'll get enough to make you feel like you don't even need to spend money
I love the rational you use for poorly balanced gameplay. Almost all end game or recent content does expect you to have reached a point where you can keep up, and they've balanced it around paying or getting lucky. Some segments are also clearly made to be played using the new character, as they will have an insane advantage. You gotta be living under a rock to not have heard of all the issues new players face when it comes to the difficulty curve the game takes. If you started early it wasn't noticable but now it almost feels like new players are hitting a brick wall and can never catch up, unless they pay. Especially with their engery system that limits how much you can do in a day.
Free to play games don't have to be pay to win to be awesome, and they should never make players feel that they need to pay to mearly keep up with upcoming content. Want an actually good free to play game? See Path of Exile for that.
If you want to stay at a power level that can one shot everything without having to invest too much then don’t level the world, problem is that also limits to what your characters can really do at higher levels so you basically have to advance everything to the point of every enemy being a bullet sponge to also be allowed to advance your characters. Sum it up: Genshin is fun until you hit adventure 24 and finish the story to see what the game is really like.
@@williamsonah5667 Go lie elsewhere. I'm not even talking about 4 stars. The best F2P accounts of today that have played since launch are laughably bad when compared to even a moderate spender of Genshin.
I am super trying to understand why so many people are angry on Diablo Immortal, they call it a pay to win game...OK..SO WHAT?! I don't care because I would never be number one in the game even it was not a pay to win game, this is also not my purpose in life, I just want to have fun and for the moment I really do, remember sometimes the journey is more pleasurable then destination.
I'm thinking of buying Diablo 2 or Diablo 3 on PS4. Any advice?
The two similar games I've played are Dragon Age Inquisition and Curse of the Dead Gods. And I know Diablo is "different" than those. But, is it worth playing Diablo 2 or 3 for the single player experience, in mid 2022?
I like how in the thumbnail his gigantic left horn is transparent so that the "Before you buy" text is visible
I baught the battle pass with the extra for 3 reasons:
1. The gameplay of this game for a mobile is the best ( with paying/free),
2.if u played Diablo 2,3 , it’s looks like mobile version of Diablo 3 with new content
3.i felt that I must show appreciation to the developers that worked on this game (even after bad reputation of blizzard), coz the game ACTUALLY VERY Good and feels like a break point and a new standard in mobile games.
Wait? The game that brought us the joke “do you guys have phones?” Released just now? That’s insane!
And apparently theres a bunch of people playing it. Dont ask me how, this still sound like a joke for me..
I know right. It feels like that meme happened a decade ago. I think they were hoping people would forget about it by now.
@@AdonanS they didn't forget they just don't care as much as you think they do hence why this is one of the most played game on mobile right now
They had to stall for a while so that the stink from that press conference would go away and so that they can make it look like even more of a shoot mobile game.
Oh and craft a better way to hook marks into using mommy's credit card to beef up their character.
@@pulseofme6884 there's a sucker born every second
Damn, I love diablo, played it on pc, console and switch. Got a level 70 paragon 250 hardcore character I spent hours on. This game feels fun, got to level 42 so far, haven't spent any money but it's unnecessary monetization. The ui is awful sometimes and can clog your screen but other than that it's a fun little game if you don't take it too seriously. Worrying about end game things though, and I doubt I'll have multiple characters like on other accounts because I don't think it will be as easy or fun
super fun game, but i hit the wall today as free2play, lvl 60(5) no more battle point XP bonus and the xp rate is slooww, i guess the battle point cap for free players resets every monday, in the meanwhile you can play another character,
@@eddy5388 That’s very interesting to know! Thanks for the reply
I play Diablo 3 hardcore seasons, I am interested in it for about 3 weeks when each season starts... I downloaded Immortal, tried a necro cause usually I don't play one cause they are so squishy. I did enjoy the game, crashed a few times but whatever it's beta and obviously made for mobile or a controller, pc was not the main goal here. Blizzards character creation is more fleshed out here than any other game, I like that. Combat feels a bit clunky, but I think that's more to do with I'm playing on a pc port of the game. If I hit a pay wall I will just uninstall... Honestly I'm confused cause in the D3 community we've been saying we'd pay for stash and cosmetics for a while and.... nope and here this is on the extreme end of things. Oh well
I'm a hardcore Path of Exile player, so something tells me this would just cheese me off. That being said, it does look decent. Probably doesn't have the depth I'm used too and the P2W crap is insufferable. Totally agree with your take to just charge me 20 bucks or whatever and give me the damn content.
I uninstalled after a couple hours of immortal. Whats your favorite PoE build? I understand so little about the game I just stick to arc witch every season because it's easy.
@@garrettcrowl1294 I'm probably the wrong guy to ask because I only do melee builds, as I'm a complete masochist. Right now, I've been tinkering with a Perforate/physical gladiator that I like. If you do want to try melee I would recommend Cyclone at the moment.
@@garrettcrowl1294 try Lacerate Gladiator! It's pretty easy and fun, relatively cheap.
I gave it the benefit of the doubt at first. Rolled a sorc, only got to like level 10 before putting it down.
I might just be getting old, or it might be my disdain for modern day Blizzard but I couldn't find the want or the joy to keep playing it.
Then I got an unwelcome push notification "come back and slay some demons."
Not today, Beelzaboot.
I had to uninstall.
You get to Level 10 literally in the first 10 minutes.....
Never played a Diablo game in my life, but is this the game where they said "do you guys not have phones?" During the presentation.
Yes.
I hate that Blizzard put time and resources into a mobile game while we’re waiting on Diablo 4.
No money spent yet at level 48 - and tbh I am really enjoying it. Still, like you I'd preferred to have paid an upfront amount for a complete experience for the peace of mind that the game wouldn't try to rip me off later
Gotta say Diablo immortal is the first "AAA" mobile game that I felt comfortable playing with touch screen. It's even smooth and responsive. PUBG, cod mobile and apex legends really doesn't translate well to mobile touch controls unless you are that weirdo who plays claw or other insane finger "configurations".
We aren't weirdos :(
you forgot the part where they "SELL" you inventory space 😂
Y’all really got the best game reviews. Come for EVERY game I’m thinking about buying 🤣.
100%, and I've even come to check out the BYB for games I've already bought lol.
@@necrophiliacin_lace628 it's nice hearing a good game get well deserved praise, and it helps appreciate them more cuz sometimes they mention stuff I didn't even notice
I am not joking people have calculated that to max out your character it will cost you around 100 000 dollars.
Yes that's right, not 10 , not 100, not 1000, not 10 000, but 100 000 dollars. This is the most shameless immoral money grab ever seen.
Any one who starts giving them money is stupid and deserve to lose money and also you are helping to finance this shameless practise.
Dont play this game don't spend money on it. Trust me. You Cant even play it as free to play , because the game is made in a way that you simply can't get anywhere if you don't spend money.
@@necrophiliacin_lace628 same 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@tanelviil9149 I'm already level 32 and I haven't spent anything but a few hours of time on it. You can do anything a p2w player can, but slower. Idk why anyone would ever spend such a ridiculous amount of money on a mobile game but you really don't have to
can you give a full review once you complete the game's story ?
You didn't really mention this but is there an actual story in the game? Or do I need to wait for Diablo 4 for that? Gameplay is fine and all but I still like some decent lore.
This game is just a slap in the face of everybody who plays it. Disgusting monetization. Sure its F2P... so I get the cash shop is there. But the way they make the end-game is so bad and PVP is not normalized like in Lost Ark is just horrible. They're moving the goal posts once again with lootboxes. Can't wait for more countries to ban this gambling stuff like Belgium and the Netherlands did.
Well yeah, drug dealers often offer the first few hits for free.
So far so good! I haven't dropped a dollar and am having fun running around and looting. I can't wait to see where this game goes!
sadly it goes into give us a lot of money ($1.000++) or stop getting stronger :(
It goes to your wallet... after you complete the campaign and are invested - sunk cost fallacy intensifies
Nowhere, nothing but Grind and Pay.
You have to pay over thousands of dollars to fully gear up your character
And you are falling into the trap the video said that you would.
This is my first Diablo game. I've only played an hour or so, but I dig it. May have to check out the others.
Play d2 or the first. The 3rd was ok too, don't play this hot mess of a game lol.
Should play Diablo II resurrection first, then this...then Diablo3.
So, don't let this game detur you from. The original core game.
To be honest, I'm pleasantly surprised with the presentation and gameplay of this game.
I'm only a casual player so I guess I won't mind the microtransactions too much.
But it feels pretty similar to Diablo 3, so much so that I wish this was just another expansion.
Then we wouldn't have waited as long for as we did for the mobile implementation.
If you dont mind the monetization model then okay, just dont bother wasting money on the disgusting microtransaction infested store that these corporations want you to pour out money into their pockets and essentially ruining other future projects down the line because of the support on monetization
I really enjoyed this game. I'm not a fan of the pc version. It doesn't feel right. It could have been a Diablo 3 expansion and a revamp of stuff. There is so much you can do in this game, and yeah the microtransactions suck, but I haven't spent a dime and I'm enjoying it.
likewise!
heres a tip. dont play. unless youre prepared to play it for a few days for story. everything else is gated behind a huge pay wall.
I think that hacking community should get together and make this game not pay to win. I’d be down to build a website for it.
I doubt we could get any multiplayer functions working though
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Take this into consideration though. Path of exile is also free, all micro transactions are cosmetic ONLY, and also gameplay-wise better than every single diablo game combined. At that point why play this unless you want a mobile game
Well, there is also stash tabs which I would say is also a form of micro transactions. Regardless it isn't as egregious as this game is
@@jamesriddle1949 Thats fair, though that really only comes into play on your 10th character and you need more room to store unique armor because horder mentality
ive been playing a lot with my friends and we've been having a good time, two of us are level 50 necromancers and the other two are little mages at like level 20 and 40. and from what i can tell, the progression gets so tedious and slow after the level 45 mark, and to get builds going you really need to buy crests or from the market to get the gems that make the builds viable. i may not play for a long time after level 60 on my necromancer simply for that reason, unless they change it to get the legendary crests easier to get, or just take that whole system away to begin with, because i just stopped playing genshin impact for the same reason, gacha is no something i want to deal with, and thats what the gems feel like to me, even going as far to have a pity system to get a legendary gem. other than all of that, and how slow end game feels to get to, its alright. like you said, just a mobile diablo game
I've been 60 for 2 days and there really isn't anything outside of PvP and dailies to do. Even the shadow and immortal things get repetitive fast
Thanks for sharing your experience. I played diablo 3 on ps3 years ago. Which Diablo would you recommend ? I‘d like to play one of them on pc and am unsure which of them is worth getting
@@platzu8061 the common consensus is that Diablo 3 and Diablo 2 resurrection are the two to be playing right now, and I agree with that myself. Diablo three is a really good game, and I also played it a long while ago, but I've not played 2 resurrection
@@platzu8061 I would recommend 2 Resurrection since you have played 3. It has kind of a slow start though so be prepared to struggle somewhat in the beginning
@@Aaron-bj3wt Thank you for the answer. I will read up a bit on the Story of the First one and Check how much the Second and the third Costa.
One of the best review channels on youtube, thanks for this. I wasn't gonna touch it because of the monetization but if people aren't freaking out a month from now I'll definitely give it a shot.
What I'm curious about are lootboxes. You don't mention them, but ActiBlizz has stated that the game won't be available in the two countries that have laws that define lootboxes as gambling. So are there outright lootboxes that you can buy/open with real money? If not, then ActiBlizz is deliberately trying to force two countries to change their laws in favor of predatory business practices.
Hi there. Yes there is. It's extremely pay to win
No lootboxes. All the loot is in game but you can pay for premium currency to get items that let you get legendary gems (which are very effective)
There are no lootboxes. Your money is spent on gems and upgrading which is a HUGE issue compared to f2p players.
@@khaoss4024 So you can directly buy the exact gems you want?
@@doggo531 I'm free to play and I got full legendary and I haven't been stuck once
I own D1, D2, D2:R, and D3. So far I like it, it does what it says on the tin. I think all of the hate comes from the tone deaf reveal they did - something that will take a very very long time for them to shake. The game's good, give it a try. I haven't spent a dime on it but may pay to expand inventory space (PoE does the exact same thing). Yes it may take 100k to max your char without playing, but then what is the point because leveling/grinding _is_ the game.
Update: Never mind I found the paywall.
This actually looks like a lot of fun! I'll give it a try but will *absolutely* not spend anything on micros. At least not until *waaaay* down the line if they rework it after fan backlash like the companies always do. They try a *super* greedy microtransaction model first, so they can "scale back" after backlash to seem like "good guys" to the fans, when the model they "scale back" to usually isn't much better.
lets hope so
It looks incredibly generic while being aggressively p2w. Good luck
The fact that you know the bullshit they're pulling but still gonna try the game and are even thinking of spending later down the line is wild to me.
This is why Blizzard and these other companies are behaving the way they are. People are still enabling them.
I am not joking people have calculated that to max out your character it will cost you around 100 000 dollars.
Yes that's right, not 10 , not 100, not 1000, not 10 000, but 100 000 dollars. This is the most shameless immoral money grab ever seen.
Any one who starts giving them money is stupid and deserve to lose money and also you are helping to finance this shameless practise.
Dont play this game don't spend money on it. Trust me. You Cant even play it as free to play , because the game is made in a way that you simply can't get anywhere if you don't spend money.
What I'm looking forward to from Diablo 4 is any update at all.
In the meantime, is it at all possible to finish Diablo Immortal without spending literally anything?
I'm having a lot of fun with it. I guess I'm desensitized to F2P stuff? There's SO MANY mobile games that do this nowadays, some much, much more predatory than others. I've gotten used to it over time-- and since I have a pretty long work schedule, most of the time mobile is the only way I get to scratch my gaming itch. Hopefully the progression won't be hindered by monetization, but even WoW has gotten cash heavy over the past few years, what with WoW Tokens and stuff.
Hoping more countries outlaw lootboxes in gaming. That way devs can go back to making the best games they can, rather than targeting whales.
The pay2win element is actually unavoidable. The buffs given through p2w does not just give you a boost but puts you years ahead of the F2P players.
Years of gameplay. The whales will float to the top then rot when they run out of things to buy. The rest of us will grind our way up along with everyone else.
Love how they reused half the sounds/animations/user interface from a 10 year old game.
i played it this weekend, got to level 27 and been enjoying it so far casually :)
thumbs up cause this is the most unbiased opinion i've heard since it launched. not for likes or subs, but for the love of playing decent games
This is the best review I've seen. I'm having alot of fun with it. I just play a rift and do my dailies. Bring on Diablo 4!
Thanks for the levelheadedness in your video.
Monetization methods aside, Immortal seems like a solid game so far for the scope that the project is aiming for. I don't see myself wanting going too deep into it yet. I am more looking for D4.
Personally, it's more a scaled down D3, for obvious reasons. It is what it is now.
Personally what I missed is the skill rune system. Not the exact thing per se, but the ability to change how your skills work.
The linear upgrade of gems/armor/etc seems boring. I guess I've seen too much of these.
As far as the monetization model, I think the company could do worse. To me, the annoying part of the product is just too much clicking/tapping around the menus. Anyways, take it or leave it.
10k to max out a character and they could do worse? Bruh
@@ok_listen why max a character then
I mean the point of Diablo is the grind. You’d be paying to never play again
@@brentsta to be competitive in the leaderboard and have advantage over others. Ever played similar games before?
@@ok_listen I just don’t understand min maxing.
I can see it sucks if you’re wanting to be Immortal.
@@ok_listen lol, how about locking your character at 60 and ask you to pay $60 or they'll delete it?
"Before....Just dont buy it".
This comment deserves more likes.
I hope that it gets them!
Everything was on point except for saying that Genshin has a point around the 100 hour mark that forces you to pay to get ahead. That's just not true man. You can totally get 5 star characters and weapons, it's just that you get more chances for them with the battle pass, and seeing how they've had reruns of several characters it's very possible and attainable to get the ones you want. All the actual story content is lightly gated by level restrictions, but spending money doesn't level up your adventure rank faster at all.
Got to Paragon lvl22 without spending any cash and then Boom! I was informed that I hit a "battlepoints" cap. (at this stage in the game you need to earn battlepoints to progress in levels since trying to grind xp the old fashioned way by just killing mobs is insane and would take forever...)so yeah , ultra monetization hell.....
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I think it's just sad that Blizzard went this way with the Diablo franchise. Cannot be played offline, microtransactions, free to play, etc..
Had they taken the route of a single player game with online features with PvP and co-op much like the recent FromSoftware's Elden Ring they could have easily revived this franchise.
d4 is still coming
Blizzard went this way because complaining in a comment section doesn't matter when people still spend money. Basically actions speak louder than words
@@farmsalot1233 People will still spend money even if there were no complaints in the comment section. Do you not have a phone?
@@Cloker79 Might have all the good elements of gameplay but still has microtransaction written all over it.
just so you guys know, theres a confirmed chinese backdoor in the pc version. which really just means its in every version but you cant open the task manager on mobile. so unless you want your social credit score to plummet, i wouldnt even download it to try it if i were any of you.
but then again most of you have tiktok so i guess noone cares...
But your credit card info isn’t stored in game it’s either on Google or IOS
where did you hear that? I tried looking into it and found nothing.
What do you guys that believe this actually think is going to happen to you? How does your social credit score affect you if you don't buy things directly from China?
The answer is... it doesn't, because that doesn't exist in America.
So unless you're planning on going to buy a house in Beijing any time soon... you'll be ok.
Aaand if they did implement this in America, which they probably already do secretly, it wouldn't be done through the Chinese govt. American tech companies would have their own American version of it... and they'd already have all your info from every other piece of technology you use. They would not require Diablo Immortal for this. Ya'll thinking too big and too small at the same time.
You're referring to China my dude... use some common sense
It's a great, GREAT game. As a Diablo old school fan, I'm lvl 59 now and paid no money, playing on PC. For the main storie, it's good for me.
friends and i have been having a blast, we even bought a few things but like you said becareful!
☺️Remember Diablo on the p.c. ⭕ when u was a kid 🙂
shit, that shit scared the shit out of me.
@@KangMinseok lol bro 😭
@@punchline619 everyone gangster until that butcher boss fight starts.
good review, but not for me
you're part of the problem if you support P2W
also D3 was pretty terrible so why would I want a mobile version of it
I'll stick to D2R
Diablo Immoral, the off season April fool's joke
Bruh seems to me that Genshin Impact and Lost Ark sure made a solid step in veering the MMO genre into the abyss, hearing how now Diablo Immortal also has your purchases, for example skins, character locked and not account bound, and has the grindfest start rising exponentially the more time you spend on it.
I would enjoy if you look and stream your opinion on the Google Play Store rating VS Apple Store rating. Apple seems to have frozen ratings after day 1 to keep the 5 Stars. Is thes legal? Are they getting paid by blizzard or just greedy because they get a share from sales?
Diablo Immortal - Don't Buy