I have a Compact model of these and it's become an essential part of gaming for me. I could use the keyboard, but I absolutely don't want to. But yes, it took weeks of getting used to. The reason the buttons feel like mouse clicks is because they essentially are, the gamepad is full of mouse microswitches. They work great, but they're not as resistant to hard pounding as normal keys - but then again, this is more of a precision instrument anyway. Either way, I've used mine for many months without issues and I'm not going back. My "main game" is Destiny 2; there, I have to map the analog stick to WASD and settle for 8-way movement, but in Cyberpunk it can be used as a full 360 analog, which is nice. Any game that supports simultaneous game controller and keyboard input can be set to have full analog movement. The weakest point of the whole setup is the software, to be honest. However, the ReWASD software has added direct support for the Azeron and when you put the Azeron together with a mouse, and a keyboard, and maybe even game controller in a grouped setup there, you get many advantages. One being that the software stays running, and it can detect game changes on the fly (if you set it up once first) and just remap the Azeron from game A to game B without you lifting a finger. It's an extra fee but it does elevate the experience, imo.
@@sako2874 Ease of repair is very high, it's just screwed together, easy to dismantle. The parts are as far as I can tell entirely standard mouse-style switches and an Xbox joystick. Even if you break the plastics, buttons, arms, they're 3D printed so Azeron can just sell you new parts. Durability is also great, but the mouse switches can be damaged by overly eager pressing (just like you can on a mouse). But, a soldering iron and minimal skill and you can just remove the busted one and put in a new, I'd say.
I love mine, field service tech so never on a full keyboard, always been a controller player. Got into PC gaming but don't have thousands hours muscle memory to stay on aswd so it's a godsend.
@@NerasW i think it would be possible, but why? a mmo mouse can have 24 buttons and you cannot beat the aim or precision that it offers period. What i wonder is if you map shift or ctrl or alt, as in then multiplying the functions of each button. Or if its even possible to learn that as a skill lol. I wonder for a game like star citizen where i use a joystick to fly but not on foot. and honestly i haven't even mastered the HOSAM setup yet. I also wonder if you get used to this and then get stuck without it, will you suck on keyboard?
Nico, do you think it would be possible to get it in right hand configuration as well? Some console players might actually like having two thumb sticks.
The orders are limited to one per person... but your mother could order the second one with other hand figuration with Azeron Cyborg ;) One cost me just under 300€ with mailing ~ can't afford to pay almost 600€ for pair
It took me a while to get used to my Compact as I desperately wanted to take advantage of the Console-controller-like setup but it's not properly supported with a mouse by most games. Now that I have have settled for WASD and a pure keyboard-like setup and I can use it for almost all games. My suggestion is, try it on a slower paced single player game first.
I use the azeron classic for WoW I cant go back to a regular keyboard now. The azeron just gives you the edge as you have access so quickly to lots of buttons. The only draw back is the learning curve it will take you a few weeks to get used to it. The software is a bit meh for it also but its beta still.
I find Rewasd to be a game changer for WoW. The main thing I find fantastic for MMOs with lots of binds, is the ability to bind things to both short and long press, double and triple press too if you like. So you have your constantly used abilities on a quick click, longer CDs and lesser used abilities activate by holding the key for a short period of time (can be adjusted in the software, 300 milliseconds is the default, make it shorter or longer if you wish). It removes the need for shift and control modifiers, everything is on a single key press. It's so nice. Other games can definitely benefit from this too. Saw a video of some guy playing Apex Legends. He'd bound small shield to short press, big shield to long press etc.
I’m a controller player and have been trying keyboard, but it’s so hard for me since I can’t type without looking at the letters. Also using 3 fingers for movement is way harder than one thumb stick. I would like to give this a try.
Have you had the same problem that the pinkies button would get stuck? The only complaint I have is the pinkie's extra button getting stuck but I'm curious to know if it is just me or not? So far in 2 hours of testing I got it stuck like 27 times, rest of the buttons worked 10/10
@@elijnr i think I got the normal size which is good size but might be wrong as it has been few years almost and +2000h guild wars 2 ^_^ also managed to get the joystick working by having xbox 360 controller plugged in. Which is bit weird. 5/5 don't have money for Azeron cyro yet :
@@Jocru considering it’s not actually a keyboard, and it almost certainly does. The device itself has an embedded main board running the firmware by polling (or reacting) to the sensors and sending over whatever configured signal to your PC. No need to design it like keyboards of old to save on circuitry and software that doesn’t even begin to introduce that problem. The main board itself is capable of presenting itself as a keyboard device, mouse, and controller all at to same time per profile, so individual controls used on it can be any of the three.
Hey Nico, how have you been? I have a problem that only you could solve...I have a kind of delay when I refresh the desktop. When I refresh the desktop with either right click or F5 there is a delay of maybe half a second between clicking and updating. Space issue I don't think it is because I have the SO on the SSD and inside the SSD I have about 70GB of free space ... The rest of the programs, games and others are on the HDD that has 492GB of available space. I also rule out the fact that the desktop is overloaded with programs as it has the minimum... I do not know if it influences but I will leave my PC as detailed as possible. i5 4440 GTX 970 16GB RAM DDR3 1TB HDD 120GB SSD (has the OS) I do not understand why ... it works with the usual speed but it is difficult to refresh and, unfortunately for me, I am a very picky person :(. I appreciate any help and I will be as available as possible.
If you get very used to playing with this, and then get stuck without it, will you have lost your keyboard skills, and therefore suck with a keyboard mouse setup?
@@NicoKnowsTech They sell it for $10 on their site. Maybe if it had a snap on logo it would sell for $40, but I still wouldn't agree that it was a $40 screwdriver
I have a Compact model of these and it's become an essential part of gaming for me. I could use the keyboard, but I absolutely don't want to. But yes, it took weeks of getting used to. The reason the buttons feel like mouse clicks is because they essentially are, the gamepad is full of mouse microswitches. They work great, but they're not as resistant to hard pounding as normal keys - but then again, this is more of a precision instrument anyway. Either way, I've used mine for many months without issues and I'm not going back. My "main game" is Destiny 2; there, I have to map the analog stick to WASD and settle for 8-way movement, but in Cyberpunk it can be used as a full 360 analog, which is nice. Any game that supports simultaneous game controller and keyboard input can be set to have full analog movement.
The weakest point of the whole setup is the software, to be honest. However, the ReWASD software has added direct support for the Azeron and when you put the Azeron together with a mouse, and a keyboard, and maybe even game controller in a grouped setup there, you get many advantages. One being that the software stays running, and it can detect game changes on the fly (if you set it up once first) and just remap the Azeron from game A to game B without you lifting a finger. It's an extra fee but it does elevate the experience, imo.
How is its durability and ease of repair compared to mainstream gaming keyboards?
@@sako2874 u can buy a 4 year warranty and I just bout it on Amazon. Forgot to buy warranty tho
@@rileyredli8787 that’s cool I didn’t know that, but I pre-ordered the cyborg from Azeron themselves
@@sako2874 Ease of repair is very high, it's just screwed together, easy to dismantle. The parts are as far as I can tell entirely standard mouse-style switches and an Xbox joystick. Even if you break the plastics, buttons, arms, they're 3D printed so Azeron can just sell you new parts. Durability is also great, but the mouse switches can be damaged by overly eager pressing (just like you can on a mouse). But, a soldering iron and minimal skill and you can just remove the busted one and put in a new, I'd say.
@@extectic thanks bro
I love mine, field service tech so never on a full keyboard, always been a controller player. Got into PC gaming but don't have thousands hours muscle memory to stay on aswd so it's a godsend.
Is it possible to use both right and left hand styles at the same time? Also, im mainly interested in using these in sit down VR, thoughts?
I am not sure. I would contact Azeron with that question.
@@NicoKnowsTech Hi! any updates on that question?)
@@NerasW i think it would be possible, but why? a mmo mouse can have 24 buttons and you cannot beat the aim or precision that it offers period. What i wonder is if you map shift or ctrl or alt, as in then multiplying the functions of each button. Or if its even possible to learn that as a skill lol. I wonder for a game like star citizen where i use a joystick to fly but not on foot. and honestly i haven't even mastered the HOSAM setup yet. I also wonder if you get used to this and then get stuck without it, will you suck on keyboard?
"keys sounding like a Predator arguing on the phone" good one, Nico. I had my chuckle :)
Nico, do you think it would be possible to get it in right hand configuration as well? Some console players might actually like having two thumb sticks.
Yes. They have right and left hand configurations.
The orders are limited to one per person... but your mother could order the second one with other hand figuration with Azeron Cyborg ;) One cost me just under 300€ with mailing ~ can't afford to pay almost 600€ for pair
It took me a while to get used to my Compact as I desperately wanted to take advantage of the Console-controller-like setup but it's not properly supported with a mouse by most games. Now that I have have settled for WASD and a pure keyboard-like setup and I can use it for almost all games. My suggestion is, try it on a slower paced single player game first.
Typing of the dead first? I'll keep that in mind when I get mine 😆
How is it for fps games?
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hey nico what about the hardware inside?
switches and a circuit board. Nothing groundbreaking.
It looks so cool.. its definitely different
I think so too!
@@NicoKnowsTechNintendo power glove is what it reminded me of off looks
I use the azeron classic for WoW I cant go back to a regular keyboard now. The azeron just gives you the edge as you have access so quickly to lots of buttons. The only draw back is the learning curve it will take you a few weeks to get used to it. The software is a bit meh for it also but its beta still.
Thanks for sharing
I find Rewasd to be a game changer for WoW. The main thing I find fantastic for MMOs with lots of binds, is the ability to bind things to both short and long press, double and triple press too if you like.
So you have your constantly used abilities on a quick click, longer CDs and lesser used abilities activate by holding the key for a short period of time (can be adjusted in the software, 300 milliseconds is the default, make it shorter or longer if you wish).
It removes the need for shift and control modifiers, everything is on a single key press. It's so nice.
Other games can definitely benefit from this too. Saw a video of some guy playing Apex Legends. He'd bound small shield to short press, big shield to long press etc.
I’m struggling to decide what size to get. Any help?
@@Zandohaha thanks for this. Great advice. The azeron software can now do this though ? With button presses with the latest software ?
Whats in your right hand though is that a trackball mouse?
Sure is! amzn.to/3OzTH5J
@@NicoKnowsTech do you main fps? How would that stack up against the g501
@@jgvtc559 yes I'm a competitive FPS gamer. It is a different world. Takes getting used to.
Awesome Video As Always Nico
I’m a controller player and have been trying keyboard, but it’s so hard for me since I can’t type without looking at the letters. Also using 3 fingers for movement is way harder than one thumb stick. I would like to give this a try.
Have you had the same problem that the pinkies button would get stuck?
The only complaint I have is the pinkie's extra button getting stuck but I'm curious to know if it is just me or not? So far in 2 hours of testing I got it stuck like 27 times, rest of the buttons worked 10/10
I had this too. You need to loose the screw a bit.
What size did y’all get?
@@elijnr i think I got the normal size which is good size but might be wrong as it has been few years almost and +2000h guild wars 2 ^_^ also managed to get the joystick working by having xbox 360 controller plugged in. Which is bit weird. 5/5 don't have money for Azeron cyro yet :
How much this arezon?
The solution to the death of the Orbweaver? Possibly!
Ghosting and n key rollover?? I play a game that requires a lot of key pressing many times simultaneously.. does this keypad lock up?
@@Jocru considering it’s not actually a keyboard, and it almost certainly does. The device itself has an embedded main board running the firmware by polling (or reacting) to the sensors and sending over whatever configured signal to your PC. No need to design it like keyboards of old to save on circuitry and software that doesn’t even begin to introduce that problem. The main board itself is capable of presenting itself as a keyboard device, mouse, and controller all at to same time per profile, so individual controls used on it can be any of the three.
Where are you buying your screw drivers? 40$?
Not from China.
Could you type with this?
I wasn’t expecting this dude to sound so professional
Thanks Lenny.
Hey Nico, how have you been? I have a problem that only you could solve...I have a kind of delay when I refresh the desktop.
When I refresh the desktop with either right click or F5 there is a delay of maybe half a second between clicking and updating. Space issue I don't think it is because I have the SO on the SSD and inside the SSD I have about 70GB of free space ... The rest of the programs, games and others are on the HDD that has 492GB of available space. I also rule out the fact that the desktop is overloaded with programs as it has the minimum...
I do not know if it influences but I will leave my PC as detailed as possible.
i5 4440
GTX 970
16GB RAM DDR3
1TB HDD
120GB SSD (has the OS)
I do not understand why ... it works with the usual speed but it is difficult to refresh and, unfortunately for me, I am a very picky person :(. I appreciate any help and I will be as available as possible.
clean your deskop,delete temp file, empty recyclebean
If you get very used to playing with this, and then get stuck without it, will you have lost your keyboard skills, and therefore suck with a keyboard mouse setup?
Really depends on the game. This is particularly good in games that have MANY buttons like World of WarCraft.
might be just enough buttons to play Dota
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@@NicoKnowsTech you have no idea how long it took me to count 🤣 but otherwise very good informative video.
That is not a $40 screwdriver
Precision cast aluminum body, ball berring swivel, anodized, tool steel bit calipers.
@@NicoKnowsTech They sell it for $10 on their site. Maybe if it had a snap on logo it would sell for $40, but I still wouldn't agree that it was a $40 screwdriver
You look like 14 and 40 at the same time.
Thanks!
@@NicoKnowsTech I like your channel, I'm subbing.
@@NonnofYobiznes awesome! Thank you!
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Bad design.