That Pedal Show - Mid-Scooped & Mid-Pushed Amps: What Do We Mean? Plus: Amp-In-A-Box Pedals Tested

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  • Welcome to That Pedal Show! Please subscribe to our channel and visit our store www.thatpedalshowstore.com
    Life too short for long TH-cam videos? Please see the ‘Interesting bits and go-to sections’ information below.
    In this episode we tackle a tricky subject - and indeed our preconceptions - in terms of two particular phrases we use a lot on That Pedal Show: ’mid-scooped’ and mid-pushed’ when it comes to guitar amplifiers.
    For example, you may hear us describing the classic Fender sound as having ‘scooped mids’, or the Marshall sound as having ‘pushed mids’. They are terms that have become accepted wisdom… but what do we actually mean?
    We demonstrate some key guitar freqeuncies with the help of a graphic equalizer, before moving on to comparisons between a Marshall 1987x (50-watt Plexi), a Vox AC30 and a Fender Super Reverb. As we discover, with the amps in their clean states the differences are nowhere near as pronounced as they are under overdrive from pedals.
    The last section of the video concerns ‘amp-in-a-box’ style pedals vis a vis changing the basic character of one amp to sound like another. Can it be done?
    Enjoy the video…
    Pedals in this episode…
    • TheGigRig Three2One
    www.thegigrig.com/three2one
    • D’Addario Pedal Tuner
    UK & Europe: bit.ly/2tIN4lD
    USA: bit.ly/3IRrhPE
    Australia: bit.ly/2tfHqHN
    • MXR 10-Band EQ
    UK: bit.ly/2iCCuw7
    USA: bit.ly/3EhAiPx
    • Analogman Bad Bob Booster
    www.buyanalogman.com/
    USA:
    • Ibanez TS9 Tube Screamer
    UK & Europe: bit.ly/2dvn8Xy
    USA: imp.i114863.net/zMRk0
    • Fulltone OCD
    UK & Europe: bit.ly/2dhU2ro
    USA: imp.i114863.net/W5gLJ
    Australia: bit.ly/2qgh9eW
    • Catalinbread Dirty Little Secret
    UK & Europe: bit.ly/2iIhmz9
    USA: bit.ly/3yKq20l
    Australia: bit.ly/2B67V5U
    • Wampler Thirty Something
    UK & Europe: bit.ly/2mWL4Yj
    Australia: bit.ly/2ApTMEl
    • Empress Echo System
    UK & Europe: bit.ly/2x5i4z4
    Australia: bit.ly/2x0K9K7
    • Neunaber Immerse
    UK & Europe: bit.ly/2hLaceo
    Australia: bit.ly/2ov7Ztu
    • TheGigRig G2
    www.thegigrig.com/g2
    * Why do we have preferred retailer links? Find out here: www.thatpedalshow.com/partners
    Interesting bits and go-to sections…
    - Introduction: 00:00
    - Today’s amps: 2:10
    - What are we doing today? 3:20
    - A brief and very sketchy history of Fender amps: 4:15
    - Today’s questions: 8:55
    - Comparing the basic sounds of the three amps: 9:25
    - Key frequencies for guitar demonstrated with a graphic EQ pedal: 16:58
    - Can we make the Marshall sound like the Fender just using the EQ? 21:30
    - Let’s add some overdrive…: 23:15
    - Analogman Bad Bob Booster through the three amps: 25:05
    - Ibanez TS9 through all three amps: 26:10
    - Fulltone OCD through all three amps: 31:40
    - Biffy Clyro? 32:32
    - 2-4KHz and overdrive: 36:46
    - Amp-in-a-box-pedals: 40:20
    - Make the Fender sound like the Marshall using the Catalinbread DLS? 42:45
    - Make the Fender sound like the Vox using the Wampler Thirty - Something? 48:10
    - What have we learned today? 57:10
    Amps in this episode
    • Marshall 1987x (50-watt Plexi reissue) through 2061x cab (Celestion G12H Anniversary speakers)
    USA That Pedal Shop: bit.ly/3v3Xazc
    • 1961 Vox AC30 through 2 x 12-inch Celestion Blue speakers
    • Fender Super Reverb (reissue) with 4 x 10-inch Jensen P10R speakers
    Guitars in this episode
    • Fender American Vintage Stratocaster: watch Mick’s video at bit.ly/2cQv3yT
    • Fender Custom Shop 1963 Telecaster: watch Dan’s video at bit.ly/2dlZJ6K
    • Duesenberg Bonneville: duesenberg.de/en/guitars/bonn...
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  • @andtrea.
    @andtrea. 6 ปีที่แล้ว +249

    Please make an episode about Fender amps and their differences, from Bassman to Twin, Deluxe, Neil Young whizzer, etc...

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  6 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      +Andrea Alesi We could do most of that. Neil Young not so much!

    • @andtrea.
      @andtrea. 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That Pedal Show lol, no room for the MagnaTone cab I guess ;)

    • @eranmontiel
      @eranmontiel 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Andrea Alesi yes, we need this

    • @StephaneBergeronPixelyzed
      @StephaneBergeronPixelyzed 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'd be into that for sure! Tp hear the difference between 60s Blackface, 70s Silverface and 80s-90s "red knobs" Twins would be awesome. I LOVE my 89' Red Knobs Twin :)

    • @midnightmerv3560
      @midnightmerv3560 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Isn't Neil youngs electric sound just a completely dimed tweed style amp?

  • @davidwoods80
    @davidwoods80 6 ปีที่แล้ว +174

    "Sorry honey, no Christmas for the family this year. Daddy needs two more amps and a 10 band EQ."

  • @DavidDyte1969
    @DavidDyte1969 6 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Mick, you just get better and better. Never stop.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      +David Dyte Ah man, that’s very kind David. Thank you. Hope you’re all good mate. :0)

    • @DavidDyte1969
      @DavidDyte1969 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very welcome, sir. I'm getting by, practicing hard!

    • @bumblesnowmonster
      @bumblesnowmonster 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yessir!

  • @Squallkicks
    @Squallkicks 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My favorite episode so far! That moment at 33:07 hitting the Plexi with the OCD gave me chills!!!

  • @sashaszlafarski9949
    @sashaszlafarski9949 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dan playing through all three of those amps at once will forever go down as one of the greatest moments of this show. Balls to the walls inspirational playing.

  • @irabucha8963
    @irabucha8963 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Time between every show feels longer and longer in my heart. I'm really grateful to have this channel existing. Thank you guys!

  • @davidwlucas
    @davidwlucas 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow, the Duesy -> OCD -> Plexi combo sounded fantastic. Like, really fantastic.

  • @Smurfman256
    @Smurfman256 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That OCD through the Plexi is seriously one of the best tones I've ever heard.

  • @beestew79
    @beestew79 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Great job with the editing on the video. So much work with all of the pedal and amp switching. It sure makes it easier for the viewer to know what is going on with all of the different sounds. Thanks and keep up the good work!

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Bharata Dasa Simon says THANK YOU!

  • @soloist88
    @soloist88 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Guys...that episode is a masterpiece! Really thank you for what you're doing!

  • @whiskersb5296
    @whiskersb5296 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Loved this episode. There's a reason the classics are classics. So many attempts to improve on the OCD and tubescreamer and while they may end up as some worthwhile variations, no improvement is necessary.

  • @zac_m
    @zac_m 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is probably my favorite thing to watch now. You guys are so good at producing this. The edits are perfect and appropriate without being so heavy handed and distracting. Either Dan and Mick are getting more comfortable playing on a video or they're getting better and better at playing, not that they weren't always great players. Between Dan's relevant knowledge of the pedal building and what goes where and what goes better with this and why vs what Mick has picked up from working the industry, where this came from and what that means etc.. I'm about to have a whole closet full of these damn shirts.

  • @MrJaapdeboer
    @MrJaapdeboer 6 ปีที่แล้ว +226

    Here's an idea for an episode: get Rabea or someone else on board and look at classic metal amps. For example, Jcm800, 5150, Dual Rectifier, see how they do pedals and whether they might also be used for other genres such as jazz or blues

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  6 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      +Mannes That would be a lot of views. I love the Dual Rec’s clean and pushed sounds more than the heavy stuff - perfect in jazz or blues, or country! (Mick here)

    • @hankgalt
      @hankgalt 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      And get some of the pedals that are supposed to replicate them (evh 5150, wampler triple wreck, etc) and see if they do 🤘🏻🎸

    • @antonioalejandrohernandezp6727
      @antonioalejandrohernandezp6727 6 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Great idea! would be awesome. I have another: a pickups episode, everything about tone, height, output, all that stuff. It´s would be very helpful for many people.

    • @deanjohnston104
      @deanjohnston104 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Ditto that. The pickup idea I mean.

    • @MrDazza64
      @MrDazza64 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Dean Johnston .....Ditto that Ditto! Atb, Dazza.

  • @sampopkin
    @sampopkin 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Such a great episode! Dan and Mick: your shows on amps and the pedals that go with them have helped me so much on my guitar journey! Thanks again

  • @pterantula
    @pterantula 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My favorite aspect of TPS is how excited and joyful you guys get. :D

  • @devingallucci4829
    @devingallucci4829 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Holy shit, that intro was probably the best playing I've ever heard from Mick.

  • @elmobrother
    @elmobrother 6 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Step 1: Cut a hole in a box
    Step 2: Put your amp in that box
    Step 3: Open the box
    It’s an amp in a box!

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      +John Sargent You for prime minister!

  • @markwhitelaw7192
    @markwhitelaw7192 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I think you proved your point with the OCD in the 3 amps that a pedal doesn't have a sound. Very cool and extremely imformative video!

  • @hbert06
    @hbert06 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How could I miss this video for so long? Pure fun to watch! Thank you guys! And thumbs up for the editing! 👌🏻

  • @garrett3300
    @garrett3300 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you gentlemen. I am always delighted when you two get into the technical aspects of amps, pedals, and guitars. I loved hearing those amps side by side.

  • @vincet68
    @vincet68 6 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Chills when you broke out the Many Of Horror riff, Dan.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      +Vince Tuckwood ah, cheers V, one of my all time fav bands

    • @moraes_ac
      @moraes_ac 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      So cool. Had to look it up. Prefer Dan’s tone with the 3 amps and OCD tho

  • @tunaXonXtoast
    @tunaXonXtoast 6 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    I hate when Dan thinks something is amazing, then I need to buy it...

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      +tunaXonXtoast hahahaha

    • @Piplodocus
      @Piplodocus 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So far this has worked on a Cali76, Muffroom Cloud, and CBA Brothers. Dan was right though! To be fair any very nice flexible drive with MIDI control was gonna sell itself to me at that point though, but the other two were definitely a TPS inspired prod. Just bought a new amp though so I'm very much enjoying this is a "principles" episode, rather than a "look at all this cool stuff you could buy" episode. If only I could buy the fingers Landreth! :D

    • @piedaterre8843
      @piedaterre8843 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i been playing for years and never had a strat, never wanted one and was always a proud gibson guy. Mick of all people got me to finally take the plunge after such a long time and i ended up, yep you guessed it, getting the exact same configuration he has: sonic blue/ rosewood/ mint pickguard etc. (although mine is a bit cheaper)

    • @bpdarragh
      @bpdarragh 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hate you guys for releasing videos in December. I now want more stuff. I think the ONLY video of yours I will watch from here on in are any wish list list you have.

    • @HeySenatorArnold
      @HeySenatorArnold 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I never buy anything without the Dan approval of “THAT IS AWESOME!!!”

  • @Msujfears
    @Msujfears 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This show has gotten so much better, I love everything about you guy. At the same time, that Biffy section will always be my favorite moment. It’s like Dan just goes to that space that I feel we all strive to get to. Thank you always for sharing your moments with us!

  • @michaela9817
    @michaela9817 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Since the first Pedal Show, I have been working to improve my ear. This video was brilliant in helping me distinguish tones and begin to verbalize the differences. Thank you so much!

  • @christurner2398
    @christurner2398 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm guessing that the G2 and Quartermasters must be your big sellers Dan, but I think that 3 2 1 of yours is an absolute unsung hero for of the show and a really clever piece of kit.

  • @jacobburr7835
    @jacobburr7835 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Really cool video! Since I've discovered you guys channel, I've been binge watching your shows. I've easily learned more from that pedal show, than I have through my whole guitar journey. Can't thank you guys enough!!

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +Jacob Burr Awesome! Glad you’re finding it helpful Jacob. Thank you for watching!

    • @smharold
      @smharold 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed here. Learned so much in the last year basically due to this show. Cheers!

  • @bicisnobombas
    @bicisnobombas 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jeez guys, that bit on frequencies was hands-down the most informative thing you have every talked about/taught. I can't believe you waited so many years to go over this! Understanding frequencies and how they interact is the key to going from, "Hold on something doesn't sound right here," to "Yeah, that's sounding good!" Keep up the good work.

  • @davidkieltyka9
    @davidkieltyka9 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the best eps to date! Love when you guys wing it.

  • @ryangunwitch-black
    @ryangunwitch-black 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I need a whole show about the Fender Stratocaster through the Fender Twin Amp.

  • @vincentpuga-aragon3501
    @vincentpuga-aragon3501 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for this guys. I own the DLS and run it in Super Bass mode at 18v into a NOS
    Tweed Blues Junior, with preamp set between 9-12 o'clock. Not sure how "Marhsally" it is, but it definitely changes the feel of the amp, and fuzzes seem to react better than just straight into the amp. I would love to see the modes of the DLS explored in a future video. Cheers!

  • @stevieboy444
    @stevieboy444 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Every time I think this show can't get better it does. The section with the EQ was genius & I'll understand the terminology so much better in future.Thank you.

  • @bicisnobombas
    @bicisnobombas 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Guys, the bit on frequencies with the EQ pedal is without a doubt one of the most essential bits of information you have ever put into a video. I kind of can't believe you waited so long to do it. Knowing and understanding frequencies is the secret of going from, "Something doesn't sound right here," to "Ready to go".

  • @the_swoletariat1621
    @the_swoletariat1621 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Plexi+OCD= incredible tone! I bought an OCD because of TPS and it’s an amazing asset on my board!

  • @kevinjohnbetts
    @kevinjohnbetts 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A lot of fun going on there. Interesting that the guitar that drew out the differences in the amps best was Dan's Telecaster.
    Suggestion: If you can lay your hands on them Catalinbreads' 'Foundation Overdrive' series would make for a fascinating follow up to this episode. I own a Formula 5 and a Formula 5e4 - the former does an amazing 'small tweed on the edge of disintegration' sound whilst the latter adds a nice clean-ish Bassman character to your tone. Much as I'd love to own a selection of classic amps I just don't have the space so pedals and a Victory V40 seems the next best alternative to me. As/when/if you get around to it I'd love to hear your take on these pedals.

  • @alexmason7222
    @alexmason7222 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    would love to see an episode on tube differences- whenever I start researching and reading up on them I get lost without actually hearing them. huge fan of the show guys. keep it up!!

  • @JKM395
    @JKM395 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brilliant as always guys. As someone who will likely never be able to afford a truly great amp, I really enjoy listening to yours.

  • @AS__77
    @AS__77 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My favorite video of yours so far. I also care wayyyy more about my amps than my guitars haha.

  • @bonestockrotorary
    @bonestockrotorary 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    When Mick hit the ocd on that biffy riff, I saw Jesus.

  • @Marcus-jg4jb
    @Marcus-jg4jb 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great ep, one of my favorites in a while! That 'all three' tone is just unreal!

  • @jamesjack3992
    @jamesjack3992 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is just pure brilliant, funny, extremely in depth, you guys are really helping me to understand my guitar sounds and also i am noticing things in a mix i never realised were there. Thank you so much, I’ll continue to watch and spread the word on your videos each time they come out !

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you James, very kind of you to say. So glad you’re finding the shows useful! We just try to be a springboard to help everybody ask questions that will get them to where they want to be a little more quickly. It’s a journey, but hopefully we can help make it a fun one! Thanks for watching.

  • @mrc2662
    @mrc2662 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Biffy Clyro bit in the middle of this. Best guitar moment in TH-cam history. Simple as. Just.....stunning. Bravo gentlemen, bravo.

  • @TR-zf6io
    @TR-zf6io 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    You're doing god's work here boys. Nicely done!!

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Terry Rogers Aj, thanks Terry :)

  • @bradenandre2298
    @bradenandre2298 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This has got to be one of the best tone and guitar videos on the internet...wow

  • @russharnish
    @russharnish 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great show this week, guys! One of your best!

  • @foxmulder5379
    @foxmulder5379 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I've got an uncle... .:: stares into the distance ::.

  • @thesphericalguy9018
    @thesphericalguy9018 6 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Would be interesting to actually see a spectrum analysis of the amps output in a DAW. Thanks for a great episode!

    • @Les537
      @Les537 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was thinking the same thing. A spectrum visual would give so many clues to what they were trying to show here.

    • @smharold
      @smharold 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed here.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      +TheSphericalGuy We talked about it.We don’t have one that tells the story well enough. I was trying the get the one in Logic to work, but the differences weren’t massively obvious. Cheers!

    • @thesphericalguy9018
      @thesphericalguy9018 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think the stock EQ plug-in with the analyzer engaged should be detailed enough. Perhaps the differences simply aren't that massive visually, but it really only takes a couple of dB's up or down for our ears to pick it up, particularly in the mid range. Have a good weekend lads!

    • @davek1919
      @davek1919 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      www.premierguitar.com/articles/23003-the-recording-guitarist-is-it-a-sin-to-scoop-your-mids?page=2 Something like that.....

  • @chasecwood59
    @chasecwood59 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You guys are amazing! I am learning so much. You explain things so well don’t ever change!!!

  • @gafarbello107
    @gafarbello107 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Y'all are the absolute best! I always learn more about amps and pedals from watching you both. Plus this episode, helped me out so much with understanding ODs with amps. Thank y'all much!

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Gafar Bello ah, cheers G, you’re so welcome :)

  • @alexandert696
    @alexandert696 6 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Most frustrating thing: trying to make your amp sound like something else.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +johno doh yep, forget it ;)

    • @Javier-qk7ms
      @Javier-qk7ms 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Have you heard of AMT pedals from Russia? They make famous amps preamp replicas into pedal format. That into a real amp FX return seem to get great results for lots of people.

    • @powdermnky007
      @powdermnky007 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I really have to give a big thumbs up to my Egnater Tweaker. I really can get any sound out of it. Been using it for a few years and extremely pleased. From Andy Timmons fender clean with a strat to guns n roses on a Les Paul or Foo fighters ac30. It's so good and can come much much closer than any of those pedals, and is perfect for when you only have room and money for a single amp, but like a diverse range of music and love tone.

    • @alexandert696
      @alexandert696 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Javier Aldan
      I ve seen vids but it kinda ,sorta sounded close. But I never had the chance to try one.
      +Rc Dad / Sultans of Wing
      yeah I was checking some demos the other day but to tell you the truth I wasnt impressed. Heard some models have loop issues with pedals.

  • @joewrightmusic790
    @joewrightmusic790 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Guys if you haven't already can you talk about the Brown sound? Thank you for such great videos.

  • @TobySpiller
    @TobySpiller ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I keep coming back to this video just to hear the Biffy riff going into the OCD through all 3 amps, I love it!

  • @CO-254
    @CO-254 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best episode you guys have ever put out. Amazing!

  • @ETILHK54
    @ETILHK54 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The way i would make fender sound more marshally, is by setting dls as close to a CLEAN marshall as possible to create platform, and then add ocd for a gain, it should work well either before or after dls.

  • @joezabrowski803
    @joezabrowski803 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    33:40 Clearly the answer to "Fender, Vox, or Marshall?" is "YES!"

  • @AlbertoMartinezDelRio
    @AlbertoMartinezDelRio 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the videos that I have enjoyed most of the channel for all the valuable information ...

  • @danman9510
    @danman9510 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Most appreciated the way you both admitted you love more your amps than your axes !! Something I’ve always questioned for myself...

  • @stevemacneil4819
    @stevemacneil4819 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You should do a part 2 to this with a couple of extension cabs to isolate the actual amps by using the same speakers. A lot can be said about the enormous difference speakers can make.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Steve Macneil We make this point many times. But who carries an extension cab for their Super Reverb or AC30?! The whole point of this is that the sound of an amp is the whole thing, not just the electronics. Cheers!

    • @stevemacneil4819
      @stevemacneil4819 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      That Pedal Show very good point!

  • @deanjohnston104
    @deanjohnston104 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Coming back on the pickup request, some kind of tonal overview of each of the major and semi major types / tone groups, also with things like the history of the Strat selector switch, how Strat single coils differ from Teles, differences between say 50s, 60s & 70s pickup sounds, etc. along with the common mods (humbuckers in Tele neck, LP humbuckers split, out of phase, etc.), would be great & super useful. Especially considering swapping out pickups is something many try as a first or second mod. Thanks.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Dean Johnston There’s Something here Dean. Certainly in a basic comparison. Trouble is, contrary to a lot of the crap you might read online, the host guitar makes a massive difference, so you’re never comparing apples with apples.
      That said, there are definitely some generalities that would be bloomin’ useful and interesting to demo. Not least for me and Dan... thanks as ever for watching!

    • @deanjohnston104
      @deanjohnston104 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hiya! Yeah, I get your drift, a lot of variables in the mix. Still, it could be informative; perhaps along the lines of the current "mid scooped vs pushed' episode, where some assumptions might get reconsidered.
      Incidentally, I noted on the recent Anderton's blindfold challenge with Lee Anderton playing Strats, that while he instantly identified the one with a humbucker in the bridge position, he still posed it as a question - "Oh, is that a humbucker?" as opposed to 'Hey, that's a humbucker!' At the time I thought that was interesting. Cheers.

    • @deanjohnston104
      @deanjohnston104 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi again. While I remember, tell Dan that just down the road from where I live in Japan is a junk yard with a Mazda Roadpacer in it - aka HJ Premier with a rotary motor in it. Depending on his degree of bogan-ness, he may or may not find that fascinating...

  • @tonisiret5557
    @tonisiret5557 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    13 mins in, & they all sound great. What am I going to buy?! I'll wait till I reach the end, & then buy a t-shirt. Amazing work as always guys!

  • @TheRealReTox
    @TheRealReTox 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love Friday mornings, get to wake up to a new video... weekly Christmas.

  • @Aleph_Null_Audio
    @Aleph_Null_Audio 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Shoving the stick farther-not further!-up my ass... Technically, all these amps cut mids as compared to no tone stack. The Marshall attentuates mids the least. It's also worth noting that "mids" is centered around 800Hz in the Marshall and Vox and more like 600Hz for the Fender.

  • @JimJamDaMan
    @JimJamDaMan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    A tube screamer into an OCD into a lightly compressing amp is my happy place.

  • @antonioalejandrohernandezp6727
    @antonioalejandrohernandezp6727 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Since I´ve been watching That Pedal Show, I love friday so much more than before. Honestly, my favorite channel on TH-cam.
    Thank you, guys. Greetings from Spain!

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Antonio Alejandro Hernández Pérez ah, cheers mate

  • @juanmartinreborati7928
    @juanmartinreborati7928 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was a very interesting show!
    I’m finally realizing how important the amp is... 🤓
    Mick, your playing and the eq stuff was awesome! The OCD sounded killer on Dan’s hands!
    Thanks! Cheers!

  • @belZaah
    @belZaah 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I don't mean to interrupt but where's the second part of the Analogman video? The one where you geek out on the fuzzes? I've been dying to understand the Sunface variations...

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      +Andres Kütt Hi Andreas. It will be in the next couple of weeks. Haven’t finished the edit yet. Cheers!

    • @belZaah
      @belZaah 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! Looking forward to it!

  • @OneMoreGrave
    @OneMoreGrave 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Now that we have Mick's Moans we need Dangents or Dan's Tangents.

  • @Chrosa
    @Chrosa 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best TH-cam Channel there is. Love you guys

  • @jsc2153
    @jsc2153 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These guys are both so great! That intro should tell you all you need to know about Micks musicality. so freakin good!

  • @OrangutanJ4488
    @OrangutanJ4488 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Is there any way y’all could show what makes other vintage style amps (supro, Gibson, silver tone) so unique compared to the more common amps? Also maybe compare that with reissue stuff? I have a new thunderbolt so I’m curious to see how it differs from Marshall, Fender, and Vox.

    • @Hangingofgiants
      @Hangingofgiants 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yea i always wonder how Dan>Supro would react also. Ive got the rhythm master and love it.

    • @jackk9366
      @jackk9366 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ampegs too?

    • @midnightmerv3560
      @midnightmerv3560 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There's a great channel called The Guitologist who's an amp tech and he's got a shitload of videos of him playing/working on valcos, harmonys, magnatones, gibsons, you name it.

    • @OrangutanJ4488
      @OrangutanJ4488 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cool I’ll check it out!

    • @OrangutanJ4488
      @OrangutanJ4488 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I just think it would be interesting to see

  • @brentstark578
    @brentstark578 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    All I know after this episode is that I want a Plexi.

    • @texanfournow
      @texanfournow 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too. And the Fender. But not the Vox. Oh, and I will def buy the OCD and the MXR.

  • @tclaybaugh
    @tclaybaugh 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is definitely the most fundamental and important video you guys have produced to date. Very well played.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Todd Claybaugh cheers Todd :)

  • @Ttinpanama
    @Ttinpanama 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant! One of the most informative and eye (ears) opening videos!

  • @ReiCow
    @ReiCow 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love these education videos! (Even if they meander a bit.. :) Never stop guys!

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +ReiCow Meandering Is The Nee Straight Line

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +That Pedal Show New. Bludie awto corroct

    • @ReiCow
      @ReiCow 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow, auto-correcting new to nee - impressive. Do you spend a lot of time referring to married women's maiden names?

  • @richardhuckle5715
    @richardhuckle5715 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dan & Mick, have you thought about getting a sound/guitar tech in, to talk about venue set up issues ? How many of us have been to a gig where the sound was really bad with very unhappy musicians ? And how may gigs have we been to where the sound is amazing and musicians are really enjoying themselves with no issues. I have been to a venue where one band had fantastic sound quality and another band on a different night had awful sound. Is the band using amps/set up etc that are wrong for the venue or is it the techs fault ?

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Richard Huckle yes, we’re going to do this, should be ace! Cheers Richard

    • @richardhuckle5715
      @richardhuckle5715 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That Pedal Show . Oh. Good! Best sound I ever came across was the Japanese metal band Vow Wow, with the British bassist Neil Murray. They were light years ahead of any other band at the time. I can remember seeing computers on stage, which was very unusual for a metal band.

  • @tweedguitar9103
    @tweedguitar9103 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Mick and Dan, Thankyou for your kindness, and taking the time, effort and energy to put on this episode. cheers

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      +tweed guitar our pleasure mr tweed :)

  • @ajsrhodes
    @ajsrhodes 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome show today guys! Great example of the difference between the 3 main amp styles

  • @GuitarJoooN
    @GuitarJoooN 6 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Biffy fuckin Clyro!

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      +xJoooNx Mon the BIFF!!!!!

    • @bulzah
      @bulzah 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      thanks to Dan, i'm now big fan of Biffy Clyro...can't stop listening..

    • @shredb4dead
      @shredb4dead 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      The song Many of Horror is just... to use a Dan term... Mega! Gets me every time I hear it.

    • @Piplodocus
      @Piplodocus 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Biffy... the spoiler of every Metal Zone joke! :-)

  • @Andreas-xx7dk
    @Andreas-xx7dk 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    53:22 And your bird can sing

  • @MarkLyleDouglas
    @MarkLyleDouglas 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This video was super helpful and made me pick up my guitar for an hour which is the best!

  • @sour37
    @sour37 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That 32 min bit of biffy is one of my fave bits of TPS ever. Amazing.

  • @benjaminthorpe7990
    @benjaminthorpe7990 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I was hoping to learn what frequency character my amp has... instead I learnt that I need to listen to Biffy Clyro 👌

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Benjamin Thorpe ha! It’s a valuable lesson :)

    • @slemtones
      @slemtones 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Benjamin Thorpe Run your own tests. You have the amp - describe what you think is it's character. Make a video and tell us if you like or dislike it

    • @benjaminthorpe7990
      @benjaminthorpe7990 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Surfey-Liker it was a joke...

    • @slemtones
      @slemtones 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Benjamin Thorpe Oops! Sorry :-)

  • @ForViewingOnly
    @ForViewingOnly 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Guys, I'm guessing you disconnected the retina-scorching LEDs on the MXR 10-band EQ to make the pedal easier on the eye?

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +ForViewingOnly We We’re confused that they weren’t working. Maybe there’s a switch?!

    • @genol9679
      @genol9679 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That Pedal Show were you running the EQ on 9 volts or 18? I accidentally ran mine on 9 instead of 18 and the sliders didn’t light up, but it also sounded a lot different.

    • @Piplodocus
      @Piplodocus 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is this another "mic'ing half a JC120" boo-boo! 🤣

    • @thesphericalguy9018
      @thesphericalguy9018 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      What the hell where MXR thinking with those LEDs?

  • @Sammie_Sorrelly
    @Sammie_Sorrelly 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! I know my way around a 3-band EQ but I've always really shied away from graphic EQs somewhat because I just wasn't sure how each band works or matters, so that little snippet's really inspired me to persevere with that and see what I can do for my sounds. Thanks, guys.

  • @peterjessop1878
    @peterjessop1878 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely brilliant show guys. The frequency discussion in relation to pedals and amps is so fundamental to an electric guitarist whether that is recording, playing live or at home. Great Job!

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Peter Jessop cheers Pete :)

  • @marianofernandez3600
    @marianofernandez3600 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mind including Hiwatt amp some day? :)

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      We’re going to buy one. Need to find one. :0)

  • @clairetemple6900
    @clairetemple6900 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is just to say...
    I have eaten
    The stealthy plums
    That were in the icebox
    Poetry, innit.

    • @daemon1143
      @daemon1143 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      would they be salty plums?

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Claire Temple Eee. Art in words.

  • @chrismundayguitar
    @chrismundayguitar 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This has been an amazing episode guys with some out of this world tones... it’s a super sized version of your killer tones from small amps with the class 5 and the blues Jr episode
    Superb playing as always
    Cheers

  • @olredbeard420
    @olredbeard420 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was such a great episode!! I learned so much and your playing was amazing! Mick you did such a great job taking the reigns and leading where this video went!!

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Robert Sidden that’s Mick’s superpower

  • @Anshul1614
    @Anshul1614 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's serious when you're using the guitar to point at things.

  • @RobertFisher1969
    @RobertFisher1969 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Just reading the title, I expected two things: An EQ pedal and a spectrum analyzer. You did realize you needed a EQ pedal, but I think it would’ve helped a lot to have a spectrum analyzer too. Not only to show us a visual representation to go along with what we’re hearing, but it probably would have helped you dial some things in quicker.

    • @sashaszlafarski9949
      @sashaszlafarski9949 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Robert Fisher visual aids can also inspire confirmation bias

  • @joemamma4324
    @joemamma4324 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WHAT A GREAT EPISODE...YOU GUYS ARE THE BEST ..THANKS

  • @shinjial
    @shinjial 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    It was great seeing those amps back to back, and actually naming their differences regarding bass, mids and tremble. Also, putting numbers on it, with more or less precision, using the MXR EQ was really helpful. The pedal choices were good as well, since everyone "knows" what a TS does, what the OCD does etc., allowing us to have sort of a baseline for the sound.
    That said, the Many of horror moment was killer! My god, it was impossible not to get excited watching the video, I can only imagine being in the room.
    PS: Marshall+OCD is -the- sound of rock, amazing

  • @andyreynolds5575
    @andyreynolds5575 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My wife thinks I have a man crush on you guys.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +Andy Reynolds she’s a perceptive lady ;)

  • @terasankka
    @terasankka 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    So let me get this right. The tiny little brown things got bigger and bigger?

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +terasankka Yeah. And harder to hide down your pants.

    • @terasankka
      @terasankka 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am bit puzzled why guitarist would want that? (ill get me coat)

    • @daemon1143
      @daemon1143 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes, and after they got bigger, sometimes the began to poke out

  • @GGRetroRally
    @GGRetroRally 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    great show thanks guys. been asking for something like this for years

  • @simongodfrey629
    @simongodfrey629 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn’t think you chaps could transcend the glory that was the Echoplex episode but you’ve done it. My favourite show so far!

  • @dass101
    @dass101 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is a bit misleading, the biggest difference in the frequency response of these three amps isn't the circuit itself, it's the speakers and the cabinet. Not ignoring the different tone stacks which give a "signature" eq curve, but really, the biggest difference when it comes to chime, low end, vocal quality, girth it's the speakers/cab. Not sure if you mentioned this, but people should understand that trying to cop a dirty Marshall sound through a pair of Jensens or JBLs is simply futile. Same as trying to get extended string chime through a 4x12 Greenback cab.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +dass101 We discuss this in the video... in fact a big part of the whole point of the video is to say that amps are about sooooo much more than EQ and gain. It’s the whole thing.... and that includes the speakers! They’re absolutely instrumental in our perception of those classic amp tones (not that these were especially classic today).
      Nevertheless, I feel like we can challenge this perception too. I have an idea. (Mick here). :0)

    • @passionplayer7
      @passionplayer7 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      A speaker episode would be great!
      But how do we keep it “The Pedal Show”? Speaker pedals! Haha 👍🏻

  • @maxwrangler5788
    @maxwrangler5788 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    First

  • @rdb9936
    @rdb9936 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this, especially the EQ pedal part! Very interesting!

  • @AlexFlannagan
    @AlexFlannagan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The many of horror part is one of the best moments of the show so far. Other personal favs include anything showcasing wet/dry, like that reverse ping pong malarkey :D