Good job Morris. Even when the odds in this debate were stacked against you, your arguments were convincing. The sooner africans realize the fallacy with religion the better. Before colonization, missionaries and explorers were among the first people to introduce religion in the African society. If indeed God existed then why did he allow Africans to be colonized and subjected to torture by the same people who introduced religion? From a morality perspective religion falls flat. From a logical argument, if indeed god exists this debate would be pointless since there is proof of his existence. If we keep referring to religious texts as proof,it is not definitive.This is because these texts were written by humans and as such they have certain biases towards what they trying to pass across, it stands to reason that most of the books of the bible were written by anonymous people over thousands of years ago and living in a different society. Their perspectives are very different from now given what we know now. Therefore for god to exist he has to prove his existence to all and sundry and not through intermediaries because that defeats the purpose.
@25:13, this guy doesn't have a clue. Science doesn't just mean Chemistry, Biology and Physics. Science is a rigorous, systematic endeavor that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the world
The question that was answered that God always existed we have to follow up with how do you know that God always existed outside of space and time how do you know that
They making a lot of fallacious assertions. With a 3 to 1, after each person make statement with a position secular kenyan should given time to address it.
The two male one say they know God exist, no response. Second male on slavery misdirected to the bible slavery started when man took stuff out of bible, that was a lie with no challenge .
opposing biblical facts is also opposing historical facts,here am not talking about religion but historical evidence, even putting aside the bible, in the history books, pagan rome(catholic church),persecuted the early church as an evidence of an ongoing spiritual war between two spiritual kingdoms, the papacy murdered more than 100 million beleivers, the colloseums where present day sports and stadia get their design inspiration from is where the christians used to be put, and wild animals such as lions and tigers were released to them,while the crowds cheered..these even built the faith of more believers,the more they got killed the more they became, so the enemy so that direct murder was not working so they changed the tactics,more of a spiritual weakening and annihilation rather than a physical one
There’s nothing such as biblical facts, they are just claims with nothing to back them. Historical evidence is exactly that- evidence, proven, demonstrated and predicted.
That guy in a blue shirt just goes to show what Christian Apologetics is all about....utter B.S. Some òf his arguments are just nonsensical and deceitful.
In 2023 and beyond, all false assertion without evidence must not stand. Watching this debate 'wow'. No evidence anywhere but yet they know God exist. The Christian ask you hate a Bible character or even God. Atheist, respond i have no evidence for characters in the Bible, and ask Christians do you hate a characters in the Quran and Allah.
The word god exists there for god exists 😂😂😂😂 a very weak argument. Spiderman, dracula, ironman …… all these are worlds too. Also that pastor used his ignorance of radio waves to make an argument for god, that answer was just a google typing away. I doubt i can text god. The argument that some of the characters in the bible actually existed is not good either, there are plenty of fictional stories based on real people for example ( Abraham Lincoln Vampire hunter) he existed but am sure he was hunting no vampires. The reason we know someone has a headache is because we have also had one at some point in life. And that to we can’t know for sure which is why people use it to skip work 😂. Guy on the right has good word salad 🥗 bravo my brother very good at redirecting attention, it doesn’t matter that some of the people who ended slavery were christians you cleaning up your own mess is not something to be praised as noble. For 400 years of slavery there was no single christian then 🥗 saaallllaaaadddddd am telling you, if there is one way to interpret what is in the bible then explain the thousands of christian sub religions 😂 in only my area there is almost 20 Morris is very patient.
@SecularKenyan, ask Matt Dillahunty to appear on your show debating these people.
good conversation
thank you very much
Ask those pastors if they think luanda magere whose body was in his shade existed
Hahaha...but Samson who had strength in his hair is real! 🤔
Religion has really played tricks on especially the black race
Unatupimia kama dose, wapi part 2? I like the way u argue. Morris, leta part 2 😂😂😂
tonight.
this was a good one @secularkenyan 👏👏
Good job Morris. Even when the odds in this debate were stacked against you, your arguments were convincing.
The sooner africans realize the fallacy with religion the better.
Before colonization, missionaries and explorers were among the first people to introduce religion in the African society. If indeed God existed then why did he allow Africans to be colonized and subjected to torture by the same people who introduced religion? From a morality perspective religion falls flat.
From a logical argument, if indeed god exists this debate would be pointless since there is proof of his existence. If we keep referring to religious texts as proof,it is not definitive.This is because these texts were written by humans and as such they have certain biases towards what they trying to pass across, it stands to reason that most of the books of the bible were written by anonymous people over thousands of years ago and living in a different society. Their perspectives are very different from now given what we know now. Therefore for god to exist he has to prove his existence to all and sundry and not through intermediaries because that defeats the purpose.
Not introduce, “force”.
These missionaries raped, stole and killed... they were racists to say the least. And you think they came to strengthen you? They came to rob you
My brother Mark did well here. Well done
@25:13, this guy doesn't have a clue. Science doesn't just mean Chemistry, Biology and Physics.
Science is a rigorous, systematic endeavor that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the world
I was screaming in my chair 😂. When he said that we don’t know how phones work i died 💀
You were lucky to host a very mild agnostic guy,
Ndume💪
Do people not think anymore
This discussion having been sponsored by church, i would say they have done a good job. ...
There are many assumptions being made,
nice
The question that was answered that God always existed we have to follow up with how do you know that God always existed outside of space and time how do you know that
Truthfully, my friend secular Kenya got owned.
Lol....just pray about it.
Not really, tell you would never be owned by anybody here. Matt DIllahunty. Go take a look at his debates.
How is a human sacrifice morally upright? There is no morality in religion
The guy in blue shirt needed to be fact-checked. He said so many incorrect things.
36:41 this lady is a pastor or something? Good god! She is too shallow...for lack of better word.😔
They making a lot of fallacious assertions. With a 3 to 1, after each person make statement with a position secular kenyan should given time to address it.
The lone ranger among sheep😂
One wolf scaring a whole flock.
I have always struggled to find a moderater who is neutral
Hard in Kenya and more so this one as it was a church project.
Of course not.
And you can’t demonstrate one does.
The two male one say they know God exist, no response. Second male on slavery misdirected to the bible slavery started when man took stuff out of bible, that was a lie with no challenge .
opposing biblical facts is also opposing historical facts,here am not talking about religion but historical evidence, even putting aside the bible, in the history books, pagan rome(catholic church),persecuted the early church as an evidence of an ongoing spiritual war between two spiritual kingdoms, the papacy murdered more than 100 million beleivers, the colloseums where present day sports and stadia get their design inspiration from is where the christians used to be put, and wild animals such as lions and tigers were released to them,while the crowds cheered..these even built the faith of more believers,the more they got killed the more they became, so the enemy so that direct murder was not working so they changed the tactics,more of a spiritual weakening and annihilation rather than a physical one
There’s nothing such as biblical facts, they are just claims with nothing to back them. Historical evidence is exactly that- evidence, proven, demonstrated and predicted.
That guy in a blue shirt just goes to show what Christian Apologetics is all about....utter B.S. Some òf his arguments are just nonsensical and deceitful.
In 2023 and beyond, all false assertion without evidence must not stand. Watching this debate 'wow'. No evidence anywhere but yet they know God exist. The Christian ask you hate a Bible character or even God. Atheist, respond i have no evidence for characters in the Bible, and ask Christians do you hate a characters in the Quran and Allah.
I mean my secular humanist response.
The word god exists there for god exists 😂😂😂😂 a very weak argument. Spiderman, dracula, ironman …… all these are worlds too. Also that pastor used his ignorance of radio waves to make an argument for god, that answer was just a google typing away. I doubt i can text god. The argument that some of the characters in the bible actually existed is not good either, there are plenty of fictional stories based on real people for example ( Abraham Lincoln Vampire hunter) he existed but am sure he was hunting no vampires. The reason we know someone has a headache is because we have also had one at some point in life. And that to we can’t know for sure which is why people use it to skip work 😂. Guy on the right has good word salad 🥗 bravo my brother very good at redirecting attention, it doesn’t matter that some of the people who ended slavery were christians you cleaning up your own mess is not something to be praised as noble. For 400 years of slavery there was no single christian then 🥗 saaallllaaaadddddd am telling you, if there is one way to interpret what is in the bible then explain the thousands of christian sub religions 😂 in only my area there is almost 20
Morris is very patient.
This you r debate is very dull