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-Putting money on The Bene Tlelax [Tlelaxu] having a hand in creating Hart and Sis. Theodocia. Maybe Hart is a Gola. -Mother Tula is just FULL of surprises. All this time, even right up to the end I'm thinking that she's just being dragged into these acts by her big sister. NO. She let us all know I'm just as dangerous and bad and willing... It was a chilling reveal for me. -Emperor - Didn't know he had it in him. Found out he wasn't free AT ALL and would rather DIE by his own hand than be a puppet. RIP -Visual effects were top notch. I don't know why some people are trippin'. -Now we're on Arrakis. Next season looking for a triangle of Kiran/Ynez/Mikaela. -Ynez vs Natalya, daughter vs. mother. That's not gonna be pretty. -The Sisterhood? It's toss-up. Thinking machines are still going to be illegal in the future so will Valya win? Or will the Ben Gesserit still be using the machines on the sly?
I think the one thing that's really well done is that they're using technology secretly. And the whole point of The Sisterhood is to turn the idea of thinking machines into a religious concept. That no machine can be made in the image of a man's mind. Just because something is illegal doesn't stop people from doing it. Prohibition being a very obvious example. Once Upon a Time for alcohol and now for drugs. I think that what we saw were the precursors of the gholas.
Emperor Corrino just ran out of rope. I mean, what else could he do. Sepuku was the only honorable way out. After 3 women told him, back to back to back, you're my Byatch here on out.
@@MovieFiles- I actually wasn't. I didn't think they'd be able to keep Mark Strong for more than 1 season. Plus, let's be honest... the story wasn't ABOUT him. It was about the stuff happening **around** him, but the Emperor himself really wasn't a key player in all of this. His wife sure was though! As was his daughter. Desmond too. But other than those characters & the Sisterhood... the rest of the characters could stay or go & it wouldn't really change anything. 🤷🏻♀️😐 We'll see what happens w/Constantine's fine ass, now that he's been made the commander or whatever. The Empress might want to take that boy down a peg. Especially now that BOTH of his parents are dead, and unable to protect him. Yikes Ironically, the sister he sort of threw under the bus will be be the only source of power he'll be able to depend on if he makes an appearance next season. But if he doesn't... meh. That's OK. He simply wasn't one of the larger, more consequential characters. Hell, the character of Lila ended up more important than he was! Same with Theodosia. I believe possibly Jen too, cuz we saw what she was able to do w/her body in the finale. That was kinda wild! But it's incredible how the 3 mere acolytes in the show, ended up more important than the Emperor himself! 🤭🤣 lol It be like that sometimes....
Awesome... but also deadly AF too. 😬🤣 Man, I would NEVER cross that woman. I would have been like Sister Avila, and got on my knees REAL quick & pledged to respect Valya as the new Mother Superior, cuz ain't no way I'd let her do that sh*t to ME, yikes! Actually now that I think about it... I probably would have been one of Valya's friends, because I honestly cannot stand religious fanatics, and Dorothea was annoying when she was alive AND after she was dead. lol No way I would have been one of her little minions. I would have kicked it with Valya more than likely regardless. She's a badass, and I think she's the toughest one to run the Sisterhood, which you NEED as a leader. Toughness, shrewdness, to be calculated, etc. Valya excels in those things for sure. Her morals might be questionable... but at least she'd protect the Sisterhood at all costs.
I didn’t think they could tie so many loose ends. I’m really impressed at how many questions they answered. Liked this episode. Looking forward to season two.
My favorite part was when Valya (Emily Watson) went out on the ice to save Griffin… the closer Valya/Emily got to the camera and the the big gust of wind blowing her hair across her face and when the wind shifts you see her as younger Valya (Jessica Barden). Brilliant bit of filming!
I feel like Valya included the extra bit about Francesca to the Emperor to confirm that Francesca would get the job done. Make the choice for her. I think Valya sensed Francesca’s hesitations when they laid out the plan. And you even see her go against Valya’s plan despite it being meaningless in the end.
@@jillg9108 and it was interesting to see that Avila was there for the murdering of the faithful & remained quiet about it all that time. Really puts into perspective why she just kept her mouth shut about Lila too.
Yes yes yes. The actress that plays Lila has been acting her ass off. I knew she would don a new persona as Dorothea. And boy did she eat it up. I think Dorothea is gonna lead the sisterhod and join with Desmond to take out Valya and those loyal to her. But Valya might be able to prove that Desmond is a thinking machine and turn the empire against House Natalya.
Valya-Emperor scene was borderline funny. She came to get arrested. He saw her as the last chance to save his sorry ass. So it took her a lot of effort and a lot of hurtful things to say to get arrested.
Thanks for sharing another great reaction. I'm just sorry I missed your love viewing... but I really enjoyed this series. My only complaint throughout the whole series is that some things seemed rushed with regards to character development. I kinda wish they took more time with that, but then again, folks would complain that there's no action (blah blah blah). I've read the books and seen the films and to me, (just my wish), I really wished for more character story/development. Overall, given the number of episodes and thankful for a season 2, I liked what the actors were able to bring forth. I do want answers with what's going to happen to Tula and if Theo is still alive, what's gonna happen with the sisterhood, and Vayla... ugh, so many questions and theories. But this, to me, was a really good season. Thank you again for sharing your reactions and breakdowns!
I would start by saying that Dune canon can't be used to explain Dune Prophecy because Dune Prophecy has been built using devices and characters to script a story in a timeline not covered by the expanded Dune prequel books. Next, I need to say that I am so thrilled by the story and the many questions raised at the end of season 1, that I already need a season 2. My biggest question at this time is: How can be the Arrakis sandworms, the thinking machines that at this point in time should have been eradicated , and the Tleilaxu be linked in purpose so early in the timeline?
I honestly feel like the remaining sisters will get slaughtered by the pre saudakar from them getting blame don't for the emperors deaths sister Jen I could see her some how surviving and they'll have to i restart because Tula,valya,nez, and the face dancer are all away from the s sisters planet an drew tgose are the remaining ones still with valya plan
Valya has forced Tula and Griffin to murder. Theodosia sought refuge with Valya to not face dance, which was forced on her like a labratory rat, and yet Valya does this. For sure, Valya would have used her nephew for heinous acts.
for a second I almost thought the hooded person was the empress or it would be cool if it was someone from her family since she's pointed out as being ambitious which is why they set her up with the emperor and her family might have had a contingency plan even before she was married since they would have known the emperor is weak and attached to his mistress/the sisterhood
Tula and Vanya are almost like a psychopath and a sociopath where one has no feelings/def on the spectrum and the other one has all the feelings but will still get the job done except vanya does have feelings but she shows it in a weird way - she would have loved and raised the boy with her best intentions but it would have been more tiger mom/aunt since her intentions are to build strength so either way it would have turned him into a monster or a very weak sad man. tula is compassionate, but vanya loves her because she also respects her and sees her strength
overall very happy with that finale, closed a few loops and left enough for next season to build from. agree about the nez and the sword guys relationship and acting - eh and eh, but he worked as a fight partner, hopefully they won't push the love angle there cause it's pretty dull. i'm guessing they will set her up with someone else for an alliance and then they will be some sort of love triangle where he's all sad and lurking in the shadows - also he wants to do rebel stuff and she's gonna need to be a figure head and also deal with her bro and mom
the boy harkenon/nephew seems like he has no loyalties - he's just a little finger in a way (also I think the emperor was a bit of a ned stark too - character you like that only lasts a season), he's just gonna collect blackmail on everyone and go which ever way the wind blows
I don’t think the men were weak- those who interacted with them were wicked… your question reminds me that the land of evil voted for the man of evil instead of the woman fool- tough choice indeed 😮
10,000 years is just a loooong, long, time. I'm surprised to see many aspects in the show to be very similar in the movie. Can you imagine wearing caveman attire? And that's just 3000 years ago.
dune book logic suggests that the Kwisats Haderach is conceived in order to stop humanity from stagnating, then dying out. The simple fact that its 10,000byears ahead and not much has changed is proof that they desperately needed a person with prescience
she said all of these things to tis pathetic emperor to make sure he killed himself as her command in realisation that he will finally take control of his life.
This episode had great pacing and an interesting plot and if the entire show had been like this maybe it wouldn't have sucked so bad. I have not read any of Brian Herbert books but if there anything like the pacing in this television show then I probably will not be reading them. Dune Messiah was slow enough. But this show somehow was even more of a slog. HBO had a great show in the penguin and the writing was fantastic and the pacing was fantastic and the acting was fantastic and even the ending of each episode made you want to see more. Not the case with this television show. I hope they realize the mistakes they made and do a much much better job in season 2. I am a huge science fiction fan and had such high hopes for this show.
The other thread that is important us that the men of power are represented as fueled by absolute power for Men the women fueled by mission/family power for women. It is a study in corporation and trauma from toxic power as expressed in men and women
@@DannyDynaWhite Yeah I discussed it in my last video before the finale. Here’s the article variety.com/2024/tv/news/dune-prophecy-renewed-season-2-hbo-1236255328/
I'm gonna be honest this was a big disappointment for me, great story deep characters but jus seems like it drags as if it's getting u ready for an action episode that never comes
Among all the series that have been a disappointed portrayals of movies that we adored. This series did much better Cant expect Star wars and Battlestar Galactica themes in a Dune story. Right?
I realized that it’s just impossible to please some of you guys .. This finale was great , why does it need to be so much action for you to find enjoyment out of what you watch ? I hate this never satisfied Era that we are in …
No, there is no other Atredies+ Harkonnen pairing in the books. This is just lazy writing. Lila's mother is probably the Mikaela, the Arakeen sister. I still think Tlexaxu are responsible for Desmond and that he is a ghola. The Dune universe production has to explain gholas before Dune Messiah comes out.
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GIVE US SEASON 2 AND MAKE IT 10 EPISODES @HBO (Valya's Voice)
Nice 😊
😂😂😂
Either 10 episodes or make it an hour and a half for each episode and for the love of God please keep the pacing the same as in the finale.
@@Epoch11- YESSSS 😌💯
Season 2 already confirmed 👍
-Putting money on The Bene Tlelax [Tlelaxu] having a hand in creating Hart and Sis. Theodocia. Maybe Hart is a Gola.
-Mother Tula is just FULL of surprises. All this time, even right up to the end I'm thinking that she's just being dragged into these acts by her big sister. NO. She let us all know I'm just as dangerous and bad and willing... It was a chilling reveal for me.
-Emperor - Didn't know he had it in him. Found out he wasn't free AT ALL and would rather DIE by his own hand than be a puppet. RIP
-Visual effects were top notch. I don't know why some people are trippin'.
-Now we're on Arrakis. Next season looking for a triangle of Kiran/Ynez/Mikaela.
-Ynez vs Natalya, daughter vs. mother. That's not gonna be pretty.
-The Sisterhood? It's toss-up. Thinking machines are still going to be illegal in the future so will Valya win? Or will the Ben Gesserit still be using the machines on the sly?
Yeah I can’t wait to see how all the plots carry into next season and new ones too
I think the one thing that's really well done is that they're using technology secretly. And the whole point of The Sisterhood is to turn the idea of thinking machines into a religious concept. That no machine can be made in the image of a man's mind. Just because something is illegal doesn't stop people from doing it. Prohibition being a very obvious example. Once Upon a Time for alcohol and now for drugs. I think that what we saw were the precursors of the gholas.
Emperor Corrino just ran out of rope. I mean, what else could he do. Sepuku was the only honorable way out. After 3 women told him, back to back to back, you're my Byatch here on out.
I mean that whole set of events was stupid. Vayla should have just used the change of heart the Emperor had to convince him to release the Ynez.
I was surprised his story ended so soon.
@@MovieFiles- I actually wasn't. I didn't think they'd be able to keep Mark Strong for more than 1 season. Plus, let's be honest... the story wasn't ABOUT him. It was about the stuff happening **around** him, but the Emperor himself really wasn't a key player in all of this.
His wife sure was though! As was his daughter. Desmond too. But other than those characters & the Sisterhood... the rest of the characters could stay or go & it wouldn't really change anything. 🤷🏻♀️😐 We'll see what happens w/Constantine's fine ass, now that he's been made the commander or whatever. The Empress might want to take that boy down a peg. Especially now that BOTH of his parents are dead, and unable to protect him. Yikes
Ironically, the sister he sort of threw under the bus will be be the only source of power he'll be able to depend on if he makes an appearance next season. But if he doesn't... meh. That's OK. He simply wasn't one of the larger, more consequential characters. Hell, the character of Lila ended up more important than he was!
Same with Theodosia. I believe possibly Jen too, cuz we saw what she was able to do w/her body in the finale. That was kinda wild! But it's incredible how the 3 mere acolytes in the show, ended up more important than the Emperor himself! 🤭🤣 lol It be like that sometimes....
I just can’t wait to see how Vayla it’s gonna take the sisterhood back!! It’s going to be awesome!!
Awesome... but also deadly AF too. 😬🤣
Man, I would NEVER cross that woman.
I would have been like Sister Avila, and got on my knees REAL quick & pledged to respect Valya as the new Mother Superior, cuz ain't no way I'd let her do that sh*t to ME, yikes! Actually now that I think about it... I probably would have been one of Valya's friends, because I honestly cannot stand religious fanatics, and Dorothea was annoying when she was alive AND after she was dead. lol No way I would have been one of her little minions. I would have kicked it with Valya more than likely regardless. She's a badass, and I think she's the toughest one to run the Sisterhood, which you NEED as a leader. Toughness, shrewdness, to be calculated, etc. Valya excels in those things for sure. Her morals might be questionable... but at least she'd protect the Sisterhood at all costs.
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I didn’t think they could tie so many loose ends. I’m really impressed at how many questions they answered. Liked this episode. Looking forward to season two.
Yeah I very much enjoyed this finale and show overall.
My favorite part was when Valya (Emily Watson) went out on the ice to save Griffin… the closer Valya/Emily got to the camera and the the big gust of wind blowing her hair across her face and when the wind shifts you see her as younger Valya (Jessica Barden).
Brilliant bit of filming!
Yeah the effects in this episode was flawless.
Yep, the graphics were **Chef's kiss** 😘🤌🏽
I feel like Valya included the extra bit about Francesca to the Emperor to confirm that Francesca would get the job done. Make the choice for her. I think Valya sensed Francesca’s hesitations when they laid out the plan. And you even see her go against Valya’s plan despite it being meaningless in the end.
I agree. As Valya stoked distrust for Francesca, it would be an extra measure to separate Francesca from the Emporer.
I felt that the older sister was Valya's spy and always reminded Tula of what Valya would do.
@@jillg9108 and it was interesting to see that Avila was there for the murdering of the faithful & remained quiet about it all that time. Really puts into perspective why she just kept her mouth shut about Lila too.
Yes yes yes. The actress that plays Lila has been acting her ass off. I knew she would don a new persona as Dorothea. And boy did she eat it up. I think Dorothea is gonna lead the sisterhod and join with Desmond to take out Valya and those loyal to her. But Valya might be able to prove that Desmond is a thinking machine and turn the empire against House Natalya.
Yeah she was incredible and can’t wait to see her character shake things up next season
Constantine will be Emperor in the end, it's the only thing that makes sense.
Can’t wait to find out
Valya-Emperor scene was borderline funny.
She came to get arrested.
He saw her as the last chance to save his sorry ass.
So it took her a lot of effort and a lot of hurtful things to say to get arrested.
Thanks for sharing another great reaction. I'm just sorry I missed your love viewing... but I really enjoyed this series. My only complaint throughout the whole series is that some things seemed rushed with regards to character development. I kinda wish they took more time with that, but then again, folks would complain that there's no action (blah blah blah). I've read the books and seen the films and to me, (just my wish), I really wished for more character story/development. Overall, given the number of episodes and thankful for a season 2, I liked what the actors were able to bring forth. I do want answers with what's going to happen to Tula and if Theo is still alive, what's gonna happen with the sisterhood, and Vayla... ugh, so many questions and theories. But this, to me, was a really good season. Thank you again for sharing your reactions and breakdowns!
I hopeful that next season will have much episodes to flesh things out for sure.
I would start by saying that Dune canon can't be used to explain Dune Prophecy because Dune Prophecy has been built using devices and characters to script a story in a timeline not covered by the expanded Dune prequel books.
Next, I need to say that I am so thrilled by the story and the many questions raised at the end of season 1, that I already need a season 2.
My biggest question at this time is: How can be the Arrakis sandworms, the thinking machines that at this point in time should have been eradicated , and the Tleilaxu be linked in purpose so early in the timeline?
Really appreciate you sharing your thoughts and I can’t wait to see where season 2 goes.
There was a omnius probe that got swallowed by a Sandworm.
So question how will Mother valya gain the sisterhood back even though she is at war on all fronts genuinely wanna know.
Maybe she’ll wipe them out like she did the first one 👀
I honestly feel like the remaining sisters will get slaughtered by the pre saudakar from them getting blame don't for the emperors deaths sister Jen I could see her some how surviving and they'll have to i restart because Tula,valya,nez, and the face dancer are all away from the s sisters planet an drew tgose are the remaining ones still with valya plan
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This episode felt long and fulfilling, Lila's actor deserves an award, her Tula and Harp best proformances 🎉
I read all the Dune books. Liked Dune Prophecy, the 1984 movie and the Sci-Fi Channel series. Curious about the next season...
I thought the Gesserit AI was named after Raquella. Anirul was her last name was it not???
That’s correct, both characters share that last name.
What was the point of Theodocia changing into Inez?
Valya has forced Tula and Griffin to murder. Theodosia sought refuge with Valya to not face dance, which was forced on her like a labratory rat, and yet Valya does this. For sure, Valya would have used her nephew for heinous acts.
I hope hidden figure turns out to be Erasmus.
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for a second I almost thought the hooded person was the empress or it would be cool if it was someone from her family since she's pointed out as being ambitious which is why they set her up with the emperor and her family might have had a contingency plan even before she was married since they would have known the emperor is weak and attached to his mistress/the sisterhood
Tula and Vanya are almost like a psychopath and a sociopath where one has no feelings/def on the spectrum and the other one has all the feelings but will still get the job done except vanya does have feelings but she shows it in a weird way - she would have loved and raised the boy with her best intentions but it would have been more tiger mom/aunt since her intentions are to build strength so either way it would have turned him into a monster or a very weak sad man. tula is compassionate, but vanya loves her because she also respects her and sees her strength
overall very happy with that finale, closed a few loops and left enough for next season to build from. agree about the nez and the sword guys relationship and acting - eh and eh, but he worked as a fight partner, hopefully they won't push the love angle there cause it's pretty dull. i'm guessing they will set her up with someone else for an alliance and then they will be some sort of love triangle where he's all sad and lurking in the shadows - also he wants to do rebel stuff and she's gonna need to be a figure head and also deal with her bro and mom
Henry cavil as vorian🔥
Loved this show
You and me both
@21:41 Dorotea would not have a genetic memory of her death from her grand daughter.
Omg what if the prophecy of lisan al gaib (the mother and the son) was meant for Tula and Desmond
Shape shifting into the princess was pointless……
the boy harkenon/nephew seems like he has no loyalties - he's just a little finger in a way (also I think the emperor was a bit of a ned stark too - character you like that only lasts a season), he's just gonna collect blackmail on everyone and go which ever way the wind blows
I don’t think the men were weak- those who interacted with them were wicked… your question reminds me that the land of evil voted for the man of evil instead of the woman fool- tough choice indeed 😮
10,000 years is just a loooong, long, time. I'm surprised to see many aspects in the show to be very similar in the movie. Can you imagine wearing caveman attire? And that's just 3000 years ago.
dune book logic suggests that the Kwisats Haderach is conceived in order to stop humanity from stagnating, then dying out. The simple fact that its 10,000byears ahead and not much has changed is proof that they desperately needed a person with prescience
I heard Dune:Prophecy has been picked up for another season!!!!
she said all of these things to tis pathetic emperor to make sure he killed himself as her command in realisation that he will finally take control of his life.
This episode had great pacing and an interesting plot and if the entire show had been like this maybe it wouldn't have sucked so bad. I have not read any of Brian Herbert books but if there anything like the pacing in this television show then I probably will not be reading them. Dune Messiah was slow enough. But this show somehow was even more of a slog. HBO had a great show in the penguin and the writing was fantastic and the pacing was fantastic and the acting was fantastic and even the ending of each episode made you want to see more. Not the case with this television show. I hope they realize the mistakes they made and do a much much better job in season 2. I am a huge science fiction fan and had such high hopes for this show.
The other thread that is important us that the men of power are represented as fueled by absolute power for Men
the women fueled by mission/family power for women. It is a study in corporation and trauma from toxic power as expressed in men and women
43:03 really? YES YES YES
@@DannyDynaWhite Yeah I discussed it in my last video before the finale. Here’s the article variety.com/2024/tv/news/dune-prophecy-renewed-season-2-hbo-1236255328/
@@MovieFiles thanks nice christmas gift from hbo ha!
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I'm gonna be honest this was a big disappointment for me, great story deep characters but jus seems like it drags as if it's getting u ready for an action episode that never comes
Dont agree
did you even watch? the finale is literally full of action
I strongly disagree but really appreciate you sharing your thoughts
Among all the series that have been a disappointed portrayals of movies that we adored.
This series did much better
Cant expect Star wars and Battlestar Galactica themes in a Dune story. Right?
I realized that it’s just impossible to please some of you guys .. This finale was great , why does it need to be so much action for you to find enjoyment out of what you watch ? I hate this never satisfied Era that we are in …
Some of the actors or so bad in this show holy shit
Sorry you felt that way
No, there is no other Atredies+ Harkonnen pairing in the books. This is just lazy writing.
Lila's mother is probably the Mikaela, the Arakeen sister.
I still think Tlexaxu are responsible for Desmond and that he is a ghola. The Dune universe production has to explain gholas before Dune Messiah comes out.
Mikaela seems a little too young to have Lila, no?
show is so anticlimactic
Sorry you feel that way but appreciate you checking out my review